I already have a buyers remorse>No xinput, so have to add every single emulator, software and game into steam>Some games just cant be added to steam due to wonky launchersWhat a joke, I will propqbly return or sell this on ebay
>>738373485>buys a controller from a company known to make shit controllers>expect good resultsNext time buy 8bitdo or something. This was made for people who will use SteamOS and Linux.
>>738373485Why wouldn't they include xinput?
>>738373485Did Valve choose not to have it?
>>738373662because FUCK MICROSOFT
>>738373485Stop being a micropleb.
>>738373662>>738373713
>Valve could easily put in profile switches like all the third party controllers/mouse/keyboardshave to remember your settings without the software>but choose not tolollmao
>>738373485You had all this information before hand but you still chose to buy it knowingly?
>>738373730Hey loonix tranny Hows that gaming going?Oh still cant launch any game that comes with anticheat?Stilll having dogshit drivers for nvidia?
>>738373485>didnt redeem the gamesir g7 8k
>>738373485>No xinput, so have to add every single emulator, software and game into steamEmulators use SDL not xinputAs for the rest of the games yes that is the point of steaminput, providing xinput to non xbox controllers.>Some games just cant be added to steam due to wonky launchersthen bypass the launcher and run the game directly?>>738373662>>738373713Out of spite for you anon.No maybe they should have included xinput support but to be honest most non xbox controllers by major companies have no xinput support.Because xinput bad.
>>738373775I play everything I want better than you lol
>>738373775>Oh still cant launch any game that comes with anticheat?As if this is an issue lmao. Having a shit filter is actually fucking good.
>>738373736Not really on brand for Valve to do thatPerhaps if enough people ask for it I could see them doing a firmware update with profile switching or something
>>738373485shillbros...what's the play?
>>738373662Because it literally only supports Xbox controls. Want gyro? Can't do that with xinput.
>>738373775>Hows that gaming going?Going great.>Oh still cant launch any game that comes with anticheat?Wrong.>Stilll having dogshit drivers for nvidia?Nope.Sorry Valve doesn't care about you.
>>738373809You clearly dont even play videogamesThere are games that cant be launched via the exe, and need to be launched via the launcher
>>738373850It's unironically really weird they locked it to Steam onlyThey've been very open with most things
>>738373775>Hows that gaming going?Good>Oh still cant launch any game that comes with anticheat?I can. Most of them. Just not the jewish ones.>Still having dogshit drivers for nvidiaYeah. But no DX12 game is worth playing yet so it's okay.
>>738373891Anon i know that.And last i checked steam moreless handles that.I never had issues even with old prince of persia games when it came to that.
Fucking hell this thing work in windows with steam closed? Why is it so hard to get a simple answer.
>>738373662Does xinput even support half the goofy gimmicky shit this controller has going on? If anyone wanted a normal controller they would just buy one of the console controllers or a gamesaar
>>738373925the drivers are in the linux kernel and it works systemwidewhats the problem?
>>738373763they dont even have it yet btw. its larp.
>muh xinputbe honest, most of you niggas didn't know what xinput was 7 days ago
>>738373485OP is a faggot like usual
>>738373485scalp it
>>738373979It wont work unless you launch the software from steam. You need to add every fucking software as a non steam game and launch it via steam
>>738374097I know xinput sucks for couch gaymin with friends since it maxes out at 4 controllersMagequit was fun before they added all the new shit
>>738374105not even sure why these anti-shills are even tryingThe thing sold out. Valve won. Game over for antis.
>>738373485Shills still at it huh?I bet the people claiming it sucks are the same who are scalping.
>>738374097Im not a tech illiterate broccoli head like you
>>738373925A lot of their features are designed to lock you into Steam. Steam multiplayer is locked to Steam because Valve won't allow cross-platform play (more restrictive position than all three major console manufacturers) so devs started using Epic Online instead. Workshop isn't a repository for mods like every other mod site so now there are Steam-locked mods. They're only really forced into openness on Linux because they build on top of existing open technologies.
>>738373485this looks uncomfortable as fuck
>>738373485>he fell for the memelol
>>738373485Lol what a piece of shit. Absolutely deserved.
>>738373485>buys a controller whose whole point is the massive degree of customization options it offers, IF used in combination with Steam or something like SISR>complains that he needs Steam or SISRin case you aren't just baiting, why the fuck did you buy it? what was your thought process here?
>>738374148Thank you, now i dont have to give a fuck about it anymore.
>>738374148what the fug.This is some EA scummy shit valve just pulled off
>>738373979SISR on github
>>738374347>>738374389Samefag see >>738374347
>>738373960>>738373813>>738373836>>738373889Launch helldivers2 right now on your linux distro, and tell me it works
>>738373485How's this work with ES-DE/retroarch?I got an 8bitdo and found getting it to WORK the WAY I wanted was WAY more WORK than I had anticipated. If the game loads with Retroarch, I found a simple enough solution finally which is to press the Steam button while ES-DE is open and switch the controller order so Steam Deck is in 2 and 8bitdo is in 1. For standalones, it's a whole nother mess.
>>738374412Dude fucking stop being schizo
>>738374415i dont play shit games tho LOL
>>738374415New proton fixes what the update brokehttps://www.protondb.com/app/553850
>>738374415You mean like on steam deck????
>>738373979It works without Steam, you just need to switch the input mode.
>>738374415>wasting time and money on live service garbageThanks, but I'm not retarded.
I want one but I wish I could try it out first. It looks like it might be too big for my tiny hands
>>738374542That turns it into a mouse trackpad. It could easily do both, but it only does the mouse part and not the controller part. You know, despite being A CONTROLLER.
>>738373891Look at this fucking retard lmfao. Take a page from emudeck and learn to be a launch options wizard. You can absolutely run anything directly from steam.
>>738373485Are the trackpads the same size as the deck?
>>738374190people like to argue on /v/, thats really it. /v/ is too small to change public opinion on anything.
>>738374889You say this but twitter discourse is almost indistinguishable from 4chan discourse nowadays.
>>738374347>>738374389not owning your controller is good when valve does it
>>738373891I'm guessing you mean a .bat file
>>738374105why? are images not allowed on image boards?
>>738374435there's a decky plugin (disable-input or something) to disable the internal controller while a bluetooth controller is connected. It fixes that shit
>>738374938I wouldn't know, as they've never done it.
>>738375105>have to download some malware so your controllers can workLOOL do steamies really?
>>738374458>>738374582
>>738373485You're going to have to try harder than this Timmy, it's just pathetic
>>738374930I mean just look at games shilled exclusively on /v/ the player count on them is never high.
steam sucks ps5 is better
>>738374884They're slightly bigger, as are the buttons.
>>738373925No it's not, Steam is the program they make that everyone has installed. When somebody buys this controller there's a 99.999% chance they already have Steam installed (the controller is sold on Steam). This means that when a customer who bought the controller plugs it in, Steam is already installed and ready to go, the controller will work immediately without the user needing to do any sort of setup.The alternative would be to distribute controller support as part of a completely separate application that Valve needs to maintain separately and more importantly that users also need to install and use separately. It's just extra steps for no reason, not to mention that Steam Input actually hooks into games via the Steam overlay AFAIK and as such making controller support into a separate program would be extremely retarded since it wouldn't even have a ready way to integrate into Steam games, they'd need to reinvent the wheel on that side too.Extremely stupid when Steam is already installed AND has all the infrastructure for binding, profiles and game integration already there and ready to be used.
>>738374840Interesting. It works fine for me on Linux. It gets turned off when you kill Steam but after switching between the "mouse" input and "controller" input it starts working again without Steam running in background.
>>738375731No one cares how it works on troonixYou are less than 1% of the population
>emulators>xinputThey're not sending their best.
>>738375789Cry more. Linux rose above 6% this year and Windows is a dying platform for boomers with inferior console emulation and AMD drivers.
>>738373485>why don't you use a normal OS like everyone else?>Windows is Steam Controller free because nobody uses it>Just install Linux bro, lifes to short to tinker with Windows>Have fun playing games without working buttons
>>738375918only because Steam deck is 5.5% of it
>>738375193>replies to the posts calling the onlineslop skinner box "game" shit with muh sour grapes while ignoring the posts that point out that the game does actually work on Linux
>>738373485You already said that before you "bought" the controller and it was already wrong then.
>>738376002The Steam Deck is maybe 0.2% of that.
>>738373485>symmetrical inside sticksenjoy your arthritis, no refunds
>>738376002Wrong. The 'eck is only 23% of the total Linux percentage.
>>738375918Cry m-ACK!!!>Audio drivers completely fucked on troonix>Fiio DAC doesn't even work on troonix>Can't enable HDR and GSYNC on troonix>Have to constantly switch between X11 for stable monitor clarity but shitty brightness, or good brightness but complete screen tearing with Wayland>NVIDIA drivers still fuckedb-b-but guys!!! you can install a tranny flag cursor customization!!! loooonix wonnnnnn!!!!!11!!1kek it's a server OS and completely fails as an everyday consumer OS. Just wait till the jeets get into your repositories, it'll be completely fucking over for you trannies.
Im brown
we're 100% black
>>738374930>4chan is indistinguishable from twitter
Stop trying to win people over to Linux. I don't want wintards and macfags over here; we already have enough of our own faggots to contend with. Fuck off, we're full.
>>738373485I've read that emulators use SDL that had support for old steam controller (and supposedly deck?) so i thought that they would support new steam controller.
>>738373485why is it so xbox heug
>>738376540They do. OP is merely a faggot.
>>738374117How about I scalp your head instead you retarded fucking giganigger
>>738376158Anon are you retarded? Like, clinically.
they should release a version without those gimmicky touchpads for $90
>>738376406that's not what the post said.You had to rephrase what he said to make it sound stupid.Are you genuenly retarded?
>>738376158>Audio drivers completely fucked on troonixWorking fine here>Fiio DAC doesn't even work on troonixTopping DX1 working fine here>Can't enable HDR and GSYNC on troonixHDR is working fineMaybe true GSYNC has issues, VRR works at 240hz and under on nvidia, works fine on AMD through displayport (using a 360hz monitor btw)>Have to constantly switch between X11 for stable monitor clarity but shitty brightness, or good brightness but complete screen tearing with WaylandI had a 4070 super running on linux last year and none of what you just wrote makes any sense whatsoever>NVIDIA drivers still fuckedThey work mostly fine just not performance wise
>>738373981>Does xinput even support half the goofy gimmicky shit this controller has going on?No. That's why it doesn't support xinput. Only stupid people bought it thinking it would.
>>738376793>>738376903You're replying to a troll, retards.
>>738377017Then ship it with standalone program, like everyone else does. I do not want my controller to be hard tied to a single marketlace.
>>738374415>>738375193I haven't played in two years but sure. Runs fine as far as I can tell.
>>738373485>>No xinput, so have to add every single emulator, software and game into steamBut emulators all support directinput because everything supports directinput and if you use xinput you can't use the gyros?
>>738374889>people like to argue on /v/Antishilling isn't arguing.It's more like, voodoo
>>738377369Good thing it has open source drivers available then!
>>738377417Steiner.....Steam controller doesnt support direct input
Still gonna wait for the chinese version
>>738373775>Stilll having dogshit drivers for nvidia?the nvidia drivers arent that much of a problem anymore
>>738377369I don't see any standalone program being provided by Sony here, call me crazyDon't see any standalone program for linux either to use the 360 controller that's officially published by Microsoft. How can I officially add trigger feedback to just random games?
>>738377623Sorry I forgot to add, how does Nintendo plan to give me a standalone program that can add gyro to FPS games I play on PC without the need of Steam? I'm waiting for that one.
>>738373775No one ought to use slopvidia, linux filters that shit
>>738377481It supports SDL though.
>>738376406I mean in some ways it's true.The actual population of people you'd ever want to interact with is fairly small, and this is supplemented by a very tiny handful of people pretending to be multiple people to give the appearance that their fairly unpopular ideas are a lot more popular than they actually are.Which you know, incidentally I can say is pretty funny considering this has been historically a problem with twitter despite which "faction" owned it.
>>738377645I mean between you and me, I'd be fairly sure Nintendo would be pissed about you using their controllers on a computer.Like, even going back to the wii mote it's been deliberately fucked.
>>738377723They have plenty of ways in which they could make their controllers just not work on PC the way they do if that was true.But my point here is essentially this "they should release a software that specifically makes the controller use all the features outside of the very platform they use to sell you games like "everyone else"" is kinda funny when you think long and hard about it
>>738377781Oh no totally, especially you know, when we consider what DirectInput and Xinput are.
>>738377862They're available input standardsAn Xbox controller doesn't come with a "convert xinput to dinput" tool, in fact using it without some software to do the translation would result in both analog triggers being detected as a single axis.
>>738377781Every third party hardware manufacturer does it, from defender and logitech to 8bitdo and gamesaar. Just because big platform holders can't be arsed to do it in pursuit of making you bound to their ecosystem doesn't mean valve should do the same.
>>738378050You're bound to Microsoft's ecosystem. You're demanding that all vendors adhere to it basically.
>>738374347>>738374148Wrong retards. You can have the controller behave like a controller outside of a steam game.
>>738378278Not true
>>738378148When 99% of everything consumer based is windows yeah you do need to provide shit to run on bare windows, that battle is long lost since w95-98.It would be nice if we had competitive alternative but linux is still decade+ away from it, macos is cozy in its own niche and nobody else have resources or will for it.
>>738373485>Fake picKys faggot troon
>>738378435>When 99% of everything consumer based is windowsActually less than 95% now and rapidly falling.>that battle is long lost since w95-98. Linux seems to be doing just fine despite that.
>>738378435They took a decision here as a business knowing they have a generous grip on the market of digital PC game distribution and companies like Microsoft have to distribute their games through their storefront, not the other way around.It would be a bold move if most people who considered (or could afford) the steam controller in the first place played enough games outside of steam there would be a need to not have it running, but that isn't the case, so they need not provide it for what is an actual minority, and the benefit would be to push people out of Windows.
>>738373662xinput is 30 years old and doesn't support half the tech in the steam controller
>>738378435I'm going to be totally honest, you're insane if you think Linux is decades away from being viable, and that's not even because now, presently, I use Linux on my main PC (that I game on) but even 7 years ago when proton JUST came out and microsoft wasn't paying for shit to intentionally not work with it.Even today, very rarely do I run into issues that are actually specific to Linux.Like off the top of my head, both the serious bug in like the Spyro Reignited Trilogy where your controls are permanently broken if a cutscene fails to play, or the Crash N. Sane Trilogy bug where load paths are truncated based on making too many assumptions about where the game would be installed aren't platform specific.I can genuinely think of ONE bug you could sort of call Linux specific in the games I play and it was Lethal League Blaze shipping an executable and trying to invoke said executable with different Casing.And even then, that's only a bug on partitions or filesystems with Casefolding disabled.
>>738379039I think it's fair to consider that even with high compatibility, people struggle to switch for a number of reasons (baby duck syndrome, compatibility with specific hardware that they use, online multiplayer games, productivity software alternatives not being good or intuitive enough).However what he fails to consider is that this isn't a battle that can't be won. Microsoft's popularity is really at an all time low. Most actual people don't have love for their software and only use it because of things like the ones I mentioned. The very second the Macbook Neo came out that shit sold immensely because even Apple's walled garden is more appealing to basic PC users than whatever Windows has become. It is much worse than 3, 5, 10 years ago, and more corporations are starting to see a little bit of value outside of Microsoft's little cuck prison.
>>738378969>rapidly fallingGood falling
>>738379242I mean that's a lot of words, and you sort of touched on the issue, but genuinely like 99% of why people don't use linux is because you can't really just walk into a store and "buy a linux".Really the fact that so many people have willingly gone through the process of installing their own os (something that both Stallman and Torvalds say they'd rather not do) is a testament to how fucking bad the situation with windows is.
>>738379341>one month of Steam surveys represent a global long-time trendBrainlet. Windows has been slowly declining in the past 10 years.
>>738379449got any counter numbers?
>>738379039You typed all that and still fail to realize that average retard wants .exe to click that will work out of the box and linux is still nowhere near that level even with gaming.
>>738379418>you can't really just walk into a store and "buy a linux".I don't know how is it over there but a lot of laptops being sold in my country come without an operating system installed and people just usually let someone else (their fucking nephew or whatever) install the OS. In most cases it's just pirated or cheap windows, but this could change as precisely the kind of person being tasked to install an OS could be aware of what runs on linux that the customer would actually need.Office is a snag but let's be honest, most people who actually need office are wagecucks, we're talking about consumer shit.
>>738379515Sorry, no, just from my head.
>>738373485This shouldn't be surprising, the original steam controller only worked with steam as well. Why is everyone surprised?
>>738379526>Average retard wants .exe to clickActually if we're talking gaming your typical user uses a frontend like steam, bnet, Origin (or whatever EA calls their faggotware these days) or Gog Galaxy and in that case for most games it is just click play and go.
>>738379418Biggest problem with linux is that there is no The Linux. Make pc linux into what android is and it will instantly become a legitimate threat.
>>738379653>Why is everyone surprised?Because in 10 years it was possible to change something for the better, and not make it even worse.
>>738379715I've been using the original steam controller since its release and this has literally never been a problem for me. Sounds like a skill issue for third worlders. Like even if your game is pirated just add it as a non steam game you retarded nigger. And to add on to that, eventually a controller driver was made for the original steam controller, at least on linux, and you could use it without steam. This will undoubtedly happen for the new steam controller and then people will find a new excuse to hate on it.
>>738379709Cachy and bazzite seem to become the linux
>>738373485Oh look, another scalper.
>you have to add third party games to steam to use the controllerWhere did this come from? The way it works on the Deck is that steam just needs to be running since it acts as the driver. Once it's running it works system wide.
>>738379804>100$ controller>doesn't ship globally>hard tied to a single storefrontWhy bother when i can get 8bitdo or gamesir for third of what valve greedy jews asking for it?
>>738379945I'm pretty sure the specific complaint is that you have to have steam running to use the configs that for it.
>>738379945Not how it works
>>738380010If you don't want the controller then why are you complaining about retail and stock issues? This shouldn't matter at all if you just don't like the controller, otherwise it sounds like sour grapes
