So when did games truly stop being good? Was it the 90's, 2000's, 2010's?
i stopped caring around the ps4 era
>>738375189>IndieI don't want to play trans games
>>738375158The mid 2000s.
>>7383751582016 or so
>>738375189Disingenuous bullshit. For every fun passion project, there's 1500 open-world survival crafting procedurally generated roguelike metroidvanias with the most barebones gameplay.
>>738375158Call of Duty 4 came out the same year as Twilight Princess.
>>738375158Probably around the 7th gen the start of the endBut the real start is 8th gen, the climax of when gaming became really shit and humanity as a whole, shame were in a stagnant dead beat of a timeline
>>738375349so what?
>>738375394but that's modern warfare 2
everything went downhill at this moment
Graphics stagnated but I still count 2 good games coming out every month. It used to be more but I can barely complete one game in a month anyway.
>>738375158>OP picOk this is actually more accurate not sure why it's the wii u version of TP though..
>>738375437MW2 is from 2009, it's not a five year gap. You zoomoids cannot even do kindergarten math.
>>738375525>Shartlennial derailing over an image having a game being 2 years apart
>>738375158The original and more accurate version.
>>738375631derailing what? you have no topic
>>738375631Kill yourself.
>>738375158Twilight Princess was a zoomer game?
>>738375645Fixed>>738375718>>738375686you first, raj
>>738375776Millenigoys tend to (likely because they're retarded) forget gen Z started in 1997 so a lot of gams millenials like that are late 90s to 2000s are games the youngest zoomers would of experienced.
>>738375786>you have no topic>you first, raj
>>7383751582027 after GTA 6 comes out
>>738375823Ah yes the zoomers playing games at the ripe old age of 2-3
>>738375158Was still good early 360 late ps3 but was getting worse ps4 era was when everything went to shit, even worse now.
>>738375225Enjoy your big company slop then
>>7383751582026 cause Pragmata came out this year
>>738375645>more accurate version.Yeah if your IQ was sub 60 anon...this is more of a bait version than anything
>>738376070it was that bad?
>>738375158What
>>738375645>>738375786>>738376078here is the ACTUALLY ACCURATE version
>>738375158Everything stopped being good after DVDs happened. CDs still had soul, but DVDs did not.>>738375437>Just COD4, but infinitely shittier, smaller maps, no dedicated servers, microtransactions
>>738375863you arent a real gamer if you werent playing games as a toddler and i mean this shit unironically
>>738376220>paladin>alliancedisgusting
>>738376273fucking why would you say this unironically
>>738375158early 2010ssocial media made people less boredgaming is for degenerates now
>>738376273i was playing games since i was 4 years old and i'd still be considered a fake gamer by /v/ based purely on the fact that grindy pvp slop has been my main genre of choice for the last 15 yearsit's so bad that i don't even grind ranked like the standard degenerate, i play casual modes, go full autopilot, int or stomp, and grind my account levelsmy goal is to have a level 1,000 league of legends account from spamming aram gamesbeen gaming since i was 4 btwarguably peak degen
2003
>>738375189>indie>passionIndie devs are just fags trying to make money by copying whatever popular at the moment 99% of the time.>rogueshit>deck-buildershit>metroidvaniashit>vampire survivorshit>pixelshit depressionslopWake me up when indie troons make another GOAT passion project like kenshi
>>738375189there hasn't been a single good indie game in years. there used to be indie games with soul, now they are all made by people chasing the money who can only make any profit if a big name streamer shouts them out.
>>738375394you're thinking of call of duty 3 you fucking retarded gatchapedo
1997-2007 the golden decade of gaming. rest gay
>>738375158real ones played both era'si remember having several old school consoles in the mid 2000s when they were either in their last years, or officially retired. also played a fuck ton of roms on the zsnes
>>738376980>>738377001*blocks your path*
>>738376980>>738377001this is just called gatekeeping. you are being gatekept from the good games because you are an obnoxious faggot.
>>738375158>So when did games truly stop being good?Video games have remained good. The progress of cutting edge AAA games began to really slow down in the early 2010s though and in order to stand out they needed to double down on budget and time. The only thing that has objectively gotten worse is competitive multiplayer games because whatever knowledge advantage you once had is gone within a week once 100 different youtubers make a video about it. Meta-fagging is fucking boring.
>>738377180name one good indie game that came out in the last two years.
>>738375863I've been playing games since i was 4 back in 1996. you're just a faggot casual.
>>738375189fpbpthose who complain about bad indie games are just bad at curating their own experience
>>738377125looks like it could be good but it came out like 4 years ago.
With the advent of the first Xbox and all games being made multiplat for the lowest common denominator.
>>738377001>hasn't been a single good indie game in yearsYou don't really think that, do you?
>>738375189Getting over the death of vidya by setting for indie games is like getting over the death of movies by settling for streamers and YouTube videos, you also have to be underage and have 5 second attention span to do both
>>738377394the fortnite one for zoomers will never make sense because the biggest streamers who popularised it like ninja are millenials
>>738377376>came out 4 years agoand? why does that matter?
>>738375189>yay another platformer/rogue-likeif i wanted to play this shit i would use a snes
>>738377652>>738377250ohrise of the golden idol
>>738375158These threads reminds me nobody on /v/ actually plays games. They're all depressed and boring.
>>738377561not really a fair comparison as yt videos are vastly inferior to movies while indie games are vastly superior to slop
>>738377756Indie games are slop and vastly inferior compared to old games
>>738375158games haven't stopped being good
>>738377748i do play games because im depressed and boredbut it's games i played before i play them for six hundred times until i get sick of them
>>738375645Kek this hits too close for zoomers
>>738375158They were never good to begin with.
>>738375863Yes my first video game was sonic advance 2. After that I got a hand me down GB games along with a PS1. So yes at 4 years old I was playing 1989 tetris and 94 DKretarded milenials seem to be under the impression games de-materilize after the year they were released
>>738377861>goylennials are the ones who popularised fortnite and were the majority of fortnite youtubersKEKEKKEEKEK
>>738375158The timeline of this image isn’t 100% accurate. Most zoomers grew up in the PS2/Gamecube era. It’s more likely they’d be playing games like Wind Waker and Resident Evil 4 as kids. Then again, zoomers are a unique generation in the sense that pre-9/11 zoomers and post-9/11 zoomers are practically two completely different generations since the pre-9/11 ones actually remember the pre-social media days.
>>738375158The real answer is they never did.There ARE good games nowadays, they're just rarer. Cyberpunk may be a janky piece of shit, but it has lots of soul. KCD2 is one of the most immersive, interesting RPGs ever made. E33 is great.And whilst old games almost all had soul aplenty (it's why I just pick random games made before 2006 and boot them up and am almost never disappointed) many of them weren't that good.There are good things and bad things about both eras.
>>738377789indie games follow a single gigachad's vision vs slop formed from a collective vague idea created by a team of people to market to kidsindie games employ unique artstyles that break the mold. slopgames repeat the same generic 3D "look". even old games go for generic looks. you will never find an old games that looks like ANYTHING made by a dev like yames.indie games are not afraid to be a totally bizzare failure. AAAgames will only achieve this by pure hubris and incompetence (see: concord)indie games actually have memorable soundtracks. can you remember the last time a "AAA" game had a good soundtrack? ever?i don't need to go on.
>>7383751582010after 2010 games started to decline
>>738375786Why is starcraft not on any of these, or oblivion, can you even call yourself a millennial if you didn't play starcraft
>>738375189Indies have a worse good game to bad game ratio than even current AAA. For every good indie game, there's literally hundreds of really shitty ones.And I'd even go as far as to say most good indie games are just decent. I could not give you a single example of a good indie game that I feel is a complete, realized experience that is memorable, instead of just a gimmick.
>>738377901You're actually mad, hilarious
>>738375158What kind of a fucking subhuman faggot do you have to be to equate gaming with the console slop in that picture? The revolution in gaming that happened in the 90s was all on PC, while the consoles limped along and kept making games for kids and faggots, and eventually adopting poor imitations of the genres and technological leaps that had happened on PC years down the line.
>>738378013keep telling yourself that, xister.
>>738378026this entire thing being a consolefag problem would explain everything
>>738378001The only reason indie games have more garbage than AAA and AA games is because Steam and Itch.io don’t have any quality control, so stuff that’s worse than shovelware can get on the platform. I would consider that the lesser evil to publishers dictating what games can and can’t be made though, and a lot of the trash is “so bad it’s good”-tier. The trade off with publishers is always that you have a higher chance of a polished product, but a lower chance of a game that takes any real risks.
>>738377950>indie games follow a single person's visionMeans nothing if that person's vision is shit, and it often is, since anyone can become a dev nowadays>Unique art stylesReally? You really want me to open steam and show you how 90% of indie games opt for a low-poly aesthetic because the developers can't model anything else? Real unique there.>Devs are not afraid of failureComplete schizo point. Plenty of indie devs cater to the masses. In fact, indie devs are often the worst abusers of early access garbage and scams.>indie games have good soundtracksQuite possibly your worst point. 99% of memorable vidya music comes from AAA series like Final Fantasy, Persona, Elder Scrolls, etc.Music is one of the few areas in which indie devs can compete with AAA with no disadvantages and most of them still fail hard.You are massively coping. You like playing shitty, poorly developed minigames which try to be pretentious and deep. That's fine. But don't expect everyone else to be as stupid as you.
>>738375158Smart phone era, because even those shitty gameloft games were still better
>>738378169>higher chance of a polished productthat was true maybe 10 years ago
>>7383779642012 was arguably the best year for the 7th gen though, or at least on par with 2007 and 2008. 2013 was where the decline really began.
>>738378169There being no QA in steam doesn't change the fact that 99% of indies is shit.And it supposedly being 'so bad it's good' is pure cope. Nobody ACTUALLY watched The Room because it was fucking terrible.
>>738375189hey didn't anita sarkeesian works now for devolver digital and works on a fews indies?
>>738378206>you want me to open steamsure, go ahead, let's comparei'd love to see all the generic "looking over the shoulder" covers for indie games
>>738378318every single game in this image looks like fucking dogshit, goyim are actual cattle
>>738378206>99% of memorable vidya music comes from AAA series like Final Fantasy, Persona, Elder Scroll>final fantasy>elder scrolls>memorable soundtracksLOL
>>738378290Yeah she's in Slay The Spire 2
>>738375158There was a major shift in the video game market the 2D to the 3D era. Japanese games tumbled in popularity, because Japanese developers had difficulty shifting to 3D. Western developers capitalized immensely on creating huge 3D worlds, which gamers gobbled up because it was new and exciting, but they were often soulless, repetitive and devoid of the detail and innovation that made Japanese games so beloved. This just got worse as time went on.Japanese vidya developers are making a comeback though. Capcom, From Software and Square Enix are doing quite well even in Western Markets. That all said, the one modern vidya series that most closely resembles the experience I had as a very young millennial gamer is definitely the Final Fantasy VII Remake trilogy. It combines modern sensibilities with the aesthetics of 1990s Japanese vidya. I Love it.
>>738378363Oblivion's soundtrack is so iconic people still use it in videos today.I don't like Bethesda games but you're hard coping if you don't think their soundtracks left a huge mark.As for Final Fantasy, you're just baiting and made it clear that I'm just wasting keystrokes on you. You can literally pick any game from 6 onward and just find multiple masterpieces.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUZZQ-hvRTsFinal Fantasy X has quite possibly the most memorable OST in any videogame ever made. Feel free to post your shitty indie game with one EDM track so the thread can laugh at you.
>>738378434You're not wrong, but saying they're making a comeback by posting a remake is dubious at best.
>>738378229A higher chance doesn’t mean a 100% chance. Sometimes things slip through the cracks. LJN and Phoenix games got published afterall. Also, even the most unpolished AAA game is more polished that some of the literal scam games developed by Indians in a week and shat out on the marketplace. There are good and even genuinely great indie games out there, but they’re usually ones that do something different rather than being yet another Earthbound clone about depression or a walking sim.
>>738378434That timing is off, they fumbled around PS360 era and came back around PS4/One era
>hurr indies are so good!!They're almost all walking sims, shitty sidescrollers, or pretentious visual novels masquerading as something else.Indie nutgobblers are so fucking obnoxious, I swear.
>>738378565>Oblivion's soundtrack is so iconic people still use it in videos todayif we are going by that, undertale BTFOs all other vidya music combined>ok let's see what this final fantasy song sounds like>generic orchestral musicit's so plain it could be in an civ game and it would make absolutely no difference
>>738378691The term indie is dumb and nonsensical, just call it a small studio, like the devs of subnautica and the dev of minecrraft started small as well but as they became successful they started to churn out slop, or sold their ip
>>738375158Somewhere around 2010, maybe a bit later games completely stalled. Before that you can feel the games are older but after that it's all mostly the same.>>738375189I mean, most indie games are like survival crafting roguelite deckbuilder and before that the trend was platformers and metroidvanias. Huge amounts of "simulation" slop.Some genres are still beyond the ability of indie devs to make them and also I'm not really willing to accept that reduction is scope and production value as a step forward. I want to play big expensive games too, I just want them to be good.
>>738378705>generic orchestral music>didn't even listen to the linkfigures>undertale fanfucking lolcan't believe i replied seriously
>>738378705>undertaleZoolattos are fuckin disgusting
>>738378691>slopfag when faced with the fact that there is actually a full world of video games out there you are too lazy to explore
>>738378861Idk man, you can explore all the walking sims for me.I'll be over here playing actual videogames, thanks.
>>738377950>indie games follow a single gigachad's vision vs slop formed from a collective vague idea created by a team of people to market to kidsYou could say the same for streamers vs movies retard, you're underage and mentally deficient
>>738378001>>And I'd even go as far as to say most good indie games are just decent. I could not give you a single example of a good indie game that I feel is a complete, realized experience that is memorable, instead of just a gimmick.I could but there's like 4 total and all but one heavily rely on nostalgia
>>738378903riveting stuff
>>738377602Because he made money entertaining countless zoomers who are Fortnite's and Ninja's target demographic. Also you bringing up fucking video game streamers is such a Gen Z thing to do
>>738378026Quite literally no one cares about dogshit PC slop, I'm sorry you missed out on good games entirely
>>738378950But our DEI slop keeps flopping blast xister
>>738378565https://youtu.be/Ze6w1sLvymM?list=PLOLBWlPQqPkt7eTc5XqXb5MQrR2XCUu6QGod FFX's soundtrack is godlike.Crazy that a game made in 2-3 years had that amount of content, polish and vision.
>>738378808>>738378834kek. i guess you lost.
>>738379069Zoolatto vaccinated nigger thinks it got to enjoy games but only ate dogshit propaganda slop on a console lel
>2001Too young for WoW, too old for Fortnite. I never was too much into Minecraft either and League sucks ass.
>>738378684The success of CoD in the PS360 era really did a lot of long term damage to the industry. We’re still recovering from that era where every dev was trying to chase that audience. Shit like yellow paint and other things we complain about is a hold over of the mindset of that era.
>>738379095You lost by being born a tasteless zoomoid who eats up dogshit slop like undertale lol
>>738379095Nah you lost at life, smoke some fent and get a booster, trust the plan cuck
>>738375158somewhere around PS3 era where everyone chase after "graphics" and openworld slop
>>738379058I'm not a big death stranding fan, but you're kind of proving my point.Kojima at least added a ton of mechanics to the travel and tried to keep it interesting even for people who don't like his dogshit hollywood wannabe stories.You know what the indie equivalent is?Cairn. A game that never evolves past the the first 10 minutes, and ends with some retarded 'uuuh you decide what really happened' 2deep4u shit where the protag climbs into space.(She died. It's not deep or interesting.)I'll take a million death strandings over cairn.
>>738379153That's the PS2 era
>>738379140>>738379143>getting this upset over undertaleagain, you lost*mogs your entire soundtrack*https://youtu.be/LIUecLaI_m8
>>738378861If I wanted to play cardgames I'd just go play cardgames.
>>738379196>not even Death By GlamourNot only are you an Undertaletard, but you're a particularly slackjawed one.
>>738377901>thinking that ecelebs are the main userbaseIn reality:>Over 60% of Fortnite's playerbase is aged between 18-24 years old, although a lot may be younger and lie about their age to get access.Millenials just make money on zoomers KEK
>>738377180>terminally online on trooncord indieshit developers>gatekeepingonly thing they are gatekeeping is my wallet
>>738379286you see, the soundtrack to UT is so excellent i don't even need to post the good ones to mog you
>>738379196Soulless goyslop
>>738377180>good games>indiePost 3.You fags keep harping on about indie games yet notice how nobody actually posts any because they know everyone will just laugh at them?
>>738379112Cope PCunc go play doomslop for the 800th time, every worthwhile game ever made was made for consoles
>>738379164>interesting even for people who don't like his dogshit hollywood wannabe storieswow what a lad. now only if he remembered to not have a 40 minute cutscene at the start of his slop so it feels like an actual, you know, video game, like you were saying>cairnnever heard of this before. sorry if you didn't like it but how can you with a straight face complain about vague bullshit in that game when you were glazing KOJIMA a second ago, the most 2deep4u retarded schizonigger on the planet
>>738375349you are the exact kind of person depicted in that comic and you don't even recognize it.Just play the passion projects dude you don't have to play every single video game ever made.
>>738375189Indie and AA games have plenty of success but for some reason this board likes to ignore them.
>>738379416Because Kojima's game, despite the bullshit is fun to play and well-designed.Cairn is not.You'd understand that if you actually played games.
>>738379331https://youtu.be/AKAiUtWZ4xY
>>738375158Hiding your thread, dipshit.
>>738379491>kojima's game is fun to playit's really not, to the point just fucking holding forward would be more engaging because i could at least focus on the environment instead of feeling like i am playing Getting Over It but with a budget
>>738379346we could name literally any game and you would call it shit so we usually don't do thatanyway here's a couple:case of the golden idollucky tower ultimatelook outsiderubatoenchanted portals
>>738379734>not a single good gameTHAT's why you didn't post itand if you think I'm just shitposting, don't worry, everyone else in the thread will also call you retarded in just a moment
>>738379814what's bad about golden idol?
>>738379058Death Stranding 1 and 2 are some of the best games I've ever seen and some of the best story and visual design I've seen in any media.But I will definitely agree that it's very much a marmite game, especially regarding the gameplay. You either like it or you don't. There's not really much middle ground.To me though, I think the game is full of so many small details, it feels very handcrafted to me. Every bit of design is thought out. It's also Kojima at his most unhinged and most genius at the same time.I wish it had been a movie though. It deserved a much wider audience than it got. The actors could still pull it off, but they'd have to start shooting immediately.A24 are making a Death Stranding movie, but a separate story from the games (which I think is a huge mistake not to turn into a proper movie)
>>738378318>Tokon Tog Tornomont
>>738375158zoomers deserve worse
>>738379814those "everyone else" guys coming anytime soon?
>>738375349>"Why isn't every indie game a 10/10 and aimed for me?"There are games for you, just play them. You don't need to like some random walking sim passion project if you don't want to. Just like you don't need to play new Fortnite update, ASSFAGGOTS, Marathon, BG3, or DK Bananza.Saying that games you don't like exist in Indie as a reason why you don't play ANY INDIE GAME is extremely stupid and just a desperate cope to try and support the dominant AAA-industry instead of smaller creators. Maybe you are amerimutt with that attitude, but in the long run you'll be just hurting your own enjoyment of vidya.
>>738379514Wow how did he ever come up with such a great tune.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nQa6YY5W8c
>>738380042millenials haven't suffered enough, they need to suffer far more.
>>738375158
>>738380563Millennials are unironically the worst gen. The boomers were right about their criticisms of them. If you need any more proof, look at how they’re raising Gen Alpha.
>>738379302>Millenials just make money on zoomers KEKI mean that's true for every generation. "Youth culture" is always shaped by the elder members of the generation or the one above because it takes time to do something and achieve popularity so when teens get into something the biggest examples are going to be on their 20s.
>>738375525>you will never create a work of art that will move miyazaki and make him less jadedwhy even live
>>738380653Holy pixels
>zoomeri'm noticing a pattern here
>>738380472>how did he come up with such a great tuneby being the fucking KINGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEOYyM9n9mw&list=RDSEOYyM9n9mw&start_radio=1
>>738379814where are they anon? :Di think it's time to admit something...
>>738375158when (You) started playing them. fuck you.
>>738375158>Zoomer using his own tweaked version of the meme to cope with his generation's dead culture
>>738375189This truke really triggered the AAA sloppers huh
>>738375158bottom is all millenial games, i don't get it
>>738381930Anyone using generational terms in the OP is just looking for a shit flinging contest. Ignore these threads, along with frog bots, sharty jaks, twitter screencaps and /pol/ shit. Improving board quality is YOUR responsibility!
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>>738375349This.Indie shitters can only make shitty games that only appeal to the same demographic.Like you can't find a decent RPG without the deck builder roguelike shit.
>>73837518995% of indie are unplayable same cop pasted crap that you have already played but made worse with much less production value
>>738381092>look at how they’re raising Gen Alpha.No worse than how zoomcucks have been raised
>>738377748The old games are good and the new ones are all shit.Thats the thread point absolute retard.
>>738375448Same year they made that they put Mr bazoople on the tele.
>>738376220improved
>>738375158Please consult the graph, anon.
>>738377001>there used to be indie games with soul, now they are all made by people chasing the money who can only make any profit>posts Fez
zoomers are losing it i see
>>738378290And look at Devolver nowIt's dead
>>738375189only 10% of indie games are worth playing. most look and play like those 5$ games attached to a newspaper in European kiosks in the 2000s
>>738375448It was a combination of that and opening Facebook to people who didn't have .edu emails.
>>738375158They stopped being good mid 00's and then started being good again in mid-late 10's.t. vidya pro neet who has spent his entire 30 years of life just playing vidya all the time like a retarded fucking worthless maggot
>>738389291Name?
>>738389514Under The Witch
>>738375158brawl came out 2 years after TP, what is this image trying to say?
>>738375349>I won't eat in restaurants because bad restaurants exist therefore I will rather stick to eating dog turds form mister Goldsteinidiots having idiot pointshow come I'm not surprised?
>>738375645This will unironically be true in 2027 and if you bring it up, zoomers just piss and shit themselves. Gaming sucks these days.
>>738375158when the 6th gen died, everything else became ports, remakes, remasters, broken games that need updates and dlc and or clones of whatever is popular
>>738375189implying I'd ever be happy with indie garbage, regardless of how good it could be. it'll never hold a candle to AA let alone AAA, I'm not buying a console nor building a PC for silksong
>>738389608Wasn't the witch some purple haired hag?
>>738378206>>738386872Let's say 95% of AAA games are bad, and 99.5% of indie games are badLet's say in one year, 40 AAA games release and 10,000 inside games releasethat means there are 2 good AAA games and 50 good indie games
>>738375158>flamewar shitDon't forget that the present and future shit is built by adultsIf shit during millennial time was good that's because of their previous generations. If shit is bad now, it's because millennials grew up only to ruin everything.Games never stopped being good, there were always shit and good games. AAA arguably is terrible and at its lowest point but more than ever now there are indies and some good AA studios.
>>738375645stop
>>738375158I feel like it's around 2014, maybe slightly before that. I noticed the exact same thing with movies, around that year seems to be where hollywood collectively turned to shit and people have pointed out that obama's second term, as well as the then uprising push for feminism, and not to forget GG played a huge part into it all.
>>738393182>year 1>a pc exclusive most people couldn't run decently>year 5 (year 6)>a console exclusive that pc gamers only got 2 years later, 8 years total after crysis 1>year 10 (year 13)>a game that took months to fix on pc and 2 years to be playable on consoles
>>738375158That space between introduction of the Wii and initial popularization of Call of Duty was where it started declining rapidly.
>>738375158They didn't. Great games only ever happened every couple of years to begin with and that's never really change.The total number of games released on the other hand has increased exponentially, so the actual worthwhile ones make up a smaller percentage of the whole.>but I haven't enjoyed any games after x point of my lifeSkill issue, that or you confuse the comfort of nostalgia for what makes an enjoyable experience.
>>738375189I'm not playing some 2d cheap indie shit. When an indie game comes out and is just Halo then i'll play it.
>>738375158It was the late-2000s to mid-2010s.One of the most interesting thing people don't talk about when it comes to the era is how people:1. Pushed for heavy realism in games.2. Video games actually suffered because the edgy/tryhard phase was dominant in culture so if the game was good but look cartoon it was looked down as dogshit and a lot of games caught flak for it.3. Example of two include: Wind Waker but also Jak 1 which was compared against GTAIII
>>738376312eat my tier2 dick
>>738397343Also realism meant the only colors that exist are dark green, brown, and grey.
>>738376220replace year 5's UI if you want anyone to believe this.
>>738375189>celeste clone>stardew valley clone>vampire survivors clone>lethal company clone
>>738375823>a tiny minority of zoomers are old enough to have played some old games naturally>this means all zoomers did soThose tide pods really did a number on your excuse for a brain, broccoliboy.
