>>738380286
best tennis game ever made and ill stand by that

>>738380286
games such as?..

Mario is a diva who knows his worth so pay up

Great game. It is odd that we're going to see most future games priced $10 or $20 below it including possibly Mario Golf, they really should cut the price of this and a couple others like Kirby Air Riders and Age of Imprisonment to match the new pricing structure. Even crazier in Europe where it's 80€ physical.

>>738380286
I keep seeing that it flopped so hard, but did it really? Looks like they reused almost everything from Aces so the budget must have been like 20M tops

>>738381003
Why else did they quickly reduce the price of digital games of B list stuff like Yoshi and whatever else?

>>738381003
We'll know its first quarter sales tomorrow. All people are basing it on thus far is it opening much lower than Aces in Japan.

>>738380698
Yoshi and starfox and splatoon

>>738380286
That's very common with Nintendo games.

>>738381046
It opened to less than a third of Aces lol

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>>738381003
Relative to Aces, probably, and Aces was already reusing quite a few assets from Ultra Smash itself.
As the Anon above said, we'll have to see from the stats tomorrow. The sales of the console itself are obviously fantastic, but i'm not sure Nintendo is too happy about the average consumer owning 2 (2.1 if you wanna be pedantic) Switch 2 games.

>>738381308
Much less of a ratio than what Switch 1 software was doing.

>>738380286
I don't know why they keep Camelot in the Mario Sports Cuck Cage when they could be making some sick ass JRPGs
I have never purchased a Mario sports title and I never will

>>738381308
>>738381340
Do not forget that Nintendo decided to kneecap their own counting for Switch 2 Editions, they only count for Switch 2 software sales if people buy the full Switch 2 physical release, otherwise it counts for Switch 1 software if one buys digitally even on Switch 2, and upgrade packs don't count at all.

>>738381391

They’re being kept in the cuck cage for their benefit at this point

>>738381308
>>738381478
It's definitely true that software is lagging far behind the Switch 1 (pretty sure that thing was at 70million units of software sold by the end of its first fiscal year), and it's also true they're kneecapping themselves with how they track Switch 2 edition sales, but I also think a large factor is just the fact that the Switch 1 had zero competition and no backwards compatibility. The only games coming out for it were the only games you *could* play on it, so it makes sense that demand for software was a lot higher back then. The Switch 2 is mainly being adopted by Switch 1 owners who have 9 year old game libraries at this point and don't necessarily need more to play, especially considering there are still games releasing for the older console.

I respect Nintendo's attempt to get their lesser IPs out ahead for launch in order to take advantage of a "Switch effect" but it definitely lacks the context of what the Switch was when it came out. Celeste and Hollow Knight were able to shine because they were great experiences on a platform that didn't have much to do. In the future, obviously killer apps that bring more people into the Switch 2 ecosystem will move the needle for software sales more, but the Switch 1 gradually losing support will also have a profound impact.

>>738381720
Fuck you give me Golden Sun 4 I don't care if it sucks!

>>738381753
>It's definitely true that software is lagging far behind the Switch 1 (pretty sure that thing was at 70million units of software sold by the end of its first fiscal year),

I mean lets all be honest here. We all know switch 2 isn't going to match switch 1 in terms of impact, software or hardware sales. I think we all knew this going in. Its essentially one of the biggest successes in the history of the industry and will/pretty much already is the best selling system in history with some of the most monstrous software sales I've ever fucking seen. When I see a game like ring fit for example not even in the top 10 best selling switch games, was physical only and more than full price outselling some of the biggest games of the decade like BG3, RE4 Remake, DS2, DOOM, etc. What does that fucking say. Just be prepared for doom and gloom over the entire lifespan of the system cause it wont match switch 1.

>>738380286
Nintendo said from the start they were gonna do variable pricing. Then media and sony fanboys spammed for months this meant physical/digital was both gonna be more expensive lol

>>738382618
>We all know switch 2 isn't going to match switch 1 in terms of impact, software or hardware sales
Why not?

>>738381046
It sold less than half of what Ultra Smash did at launch in Japan. When it got dunked on by a Wii U game, that's really bad.

>>738382942
>Why not?
Worse economic times, novelty factor and the fact that the industry is matured in which many people will happily play switch 1 for a long time, increased competition from live service games, forever games that can be played indefinitely etc. The industry itself is already feeling all of this. Its just what it is.

>>738382942
It’s already doing worse software wise than the 1

>>738383056
>>738383285
Hardware sales have already surpassed Switch 1 at this time, and that's without a Mario game.
Seems to be doing great.

>>738383430
We're talking about software sales, anon.

>>738383481
No, we were taking about the console.
You were the only person to mention "software".

>>738383430
And it’s selling less software per console. Which is what we were discussing.

That’s like saying PS5 has sold 92m without GTA 6, that doesn’t necessarily mean that sales are going to increase by an insane amount for either a Mario or gta 6. A lot of the sales are factored in already. People are buying them in anticipation of said games.

>>738380286
main series 3D mario
main series 3D pokemon
main series 3D zelda
literally all they need to do and they wont do it because it takes 5+ years to develop

>>738380497

>tennis
>still no baseball or football game

Tendies will eat any slop

>>738383545
>Speculation and conjecure
>No proof of any kind to support his claims
Yeah...

>>738383595
>main series 3D pokemon
Already done.

>>738383664
So you think that gta 6 will drive massive massive hardware adoption for ps5 then, just like Mario will for switch 2, or do you believe most have been sold already to people who were interested in said games and based off of hype

>>738383705
>Wind and waves is out
Since when?
Where can i get it?

>>738383736
It might. It might not.

Whereas you are convinced a new mainline Mario game wouldn't increase sales.
Burden of proof lies with you, how do you intend to validate your hypothesis? I can help you if you like.

>>738383769
Legends is a mainline game, unfortunately.

>>738383884
So that means we haven't gotten the 3D mainline pokemon game yet.
What a shame. I was looking forward to playing some gen 10 today.

>>738383838
I didn’t say it wouldn’t drive big sales. But you also have to factor in what he said
>>738383056
Just because it’s the fastest selling doesn’t mean everything. PS4 was the fastest selling console too when it came out and it fell short of gameboy, DS, switch and ps2. And software sales on switch 2 are worse than the first relatively

>>738383965
>I didn’t say it wouldn’t drive big sales.
So what's your argument? Be specific and consise, please.

>>738383884
Maybe so, but it doesn’t give anyone a massive reason to get the S2.

>Racism outside of /b/
Ooof!!!
That's a concession right there!!

>>738384054
Even if it drives sales it may not be enough to push it to the original Switch sales in software or hardware due to the listed variables this gen. There will also be more competition in general.

Not mainline no matter how much crying pokefags will do to cope with the fact that they have to wait 6 years for the next game which by the way, is the longest gen in the history of the game.

>>738384143
>may
So you don't have an actual argument, supported with actual evidence? You're just arguing whataboutisms?
No wonder you have no supporting facts or evidence.

>>738384112
wait guys i think this might be a real poster, this is the first renunciation of racism i've seen on this board in months

>>738384161
>Not mainline
Game Freak says otherwise.

>it's been 20 years since the last Mario Baseball
>when the 2 best baseball players in the world rn are Japanese
Does this seem wrong

>>738384213
Can one not make an educated guess based on current conditions and potential long term variables?

Gamefreak can say whatever they want, but everyone knows its not mainline.
>>738384269
It's not as wrong as metroidfags waiting 20 years to get two of the worst games in the series.
If they were 10 when the series first came out they are now pushing 50 years old.

>>738384338
>educated guess
That would require facts and evidence, which you have already admitted you don't have.

>>738384473
We do have evidence. Does even a 3d Mario or Pokemon game drive adoption as well as Mario Kart? Mario kart world might have been the fastest boost you were going to see on the system. MK8 was by far the best selling game on the switch 1.

>>738384618
>We do have evidence
So supply it. Show me your evidence that a new Mario game wouldn't boost sales of the Switch 2.
Go ahead. Stop wasting time.

>>738384704
You do know a simple google search can give you the evidence?

>>738384704
I didn’t say it wouldn’t. I said it may not boost it as much as you think. You’re trying to say that the switch 2 is the fastest selling without a 3d Mario, disregarding the fact that it had its fastest adoption rate game it might ever get. So the whole 3d Mario thing isn’t necessarily going to be as big of a driver as you think.

>>738383521
The tendie tears must be getting in your way of being able to read anon.
You’ll survive.

>>738384808
>No evidence
Then you can never win.

>>738384839
>I said it may not boost it as much as you think
So supply some evidence to support this claim already, instead of crying like a bitch.

>>738385029
You were told exactly where to get the evidence. Which means your refusal to act means you are conceding.

>>738380907
>they really should cut the price of this and a couple others like Kirby Air Riders and Age of Imprisonment to match the new pricing structure.
Nintendo is too autistic for that, they're never going to admit they fucked up.

>>738385095
>You were told exactly where to get the evidence
No, I wasn't.
"Google" is not a source kid, just like your teachers tell you.

>>738385114
those two games fucking suck anyway

>>738385029
>>738385194
The best selling game on the switch 1 is a Mario kart. Not a 3d Mario, not Zelda, not even animal crossing, and btw Pokopia was supposed to be the next animal crossing and it didn’t even come close to it. So to say that a Mario kart is a bigger driver of consoles over a 3d Mario isn’t crazy

>>738385328
>pokopia was supposed to be the next animal crossing
Why do people say the most insane shit

>>738385328
>Not a source
>More basless claims and conjecture
I accept your concession, one final time.

>>738385437
What did I say that was baseless?

>>738385413
It was a spiritual successor essentially. People on here were talking about it potentially having animal crossing levels of hype.

>>738385568
>Pretending to not understand the discussion to avoid discourse
Cute.
You have to be over 18 to post here, kid.

>>738385638
I didn’t say anything baseless at all.

>>738382618
>I mean lets all be honest here. We all know switch 2 isn't going to match switch 1 in terms of impact, software or hardware sales
HW sales I think 130-140m is pretty likely but on the SW side I think sales will skyrocket. People just doesn't understand how much getting all the AAA games does for a system. GTA 6 will keep selling millions yearly on Nintendo, COD will sell millions yearly, then getting games day 1 means more and more people will switch to Nintendo as default and they won't have other systems. Because third party support is there there's gonna be tens of millions who will skip Playstation from now on.

>>738385568
>Retard never heard of DQB.
>Thinks Pokopia is Animal Crossing
It's literally the DQB Engine, and developers. No one from AC is on the team.
You are a retard.

>>738385653
>No sources
>"m-m-my claims are NOT BASELESS"
>refuses to post a source again
This is why you lost, and I won.

>>738385764
So I was wrong about Mario kart 8 being the best selling title on the switch

>>738385823
>No sources to support his claims
>5 times in a row
You can spam the thread and cry about me winning all day if you like.

>>738385707
even fighting with water to try and use it in landscaping is 1:1 what it feels like in DQB

>>738385892
>this tendie is so frothing mad he doesn’t believe MK8 is the best selling switch game
What causes this kind of autism?

>>738385892
So its baseless to say MK8 outsold all other titles on Switch, despite you and I both knowing it, the official record seen by many as sitting at that, just because I can't provide proof.

>>738386024
>No sources to support his claims
>6 times in a row
You can spam the thread and cry about me winning all day if you like.

>>738386037
>just because I can't provide proof.
Yes. A claim made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Or are you admitting you believe in things you can't prove are real?

>>738386135
So I can dismiss the claim that the Switch 2 is the fastest selling console of all time because you have not posted proof.

>>738386068
That was my first response to you. But you cultists always assume everyone calling you faggots out is the same person.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/switch.html
Little bitch

>>738386284
Copy and paste the exact part that proves your claim right that Show me your evidence that a new Mario game wouldn't boost sales of the Switch 2.
Go ahead. Stop wasting time.

Thank you Mario Tennis. I'm convinced it did it because there's no way Nintendo would do something nice for us otherwise. I've read game sales was lower too so it's probably why. Hope they keep getting scared and we get more advantages, I still hope for vouchers to br brought backs

>>738386363
Nobody said it wouldn't boost it. Just like technically Saros boosted PS5 sales. But is it going to boost it as much as Mario Kart? Doubtful. As seen with Switch 1, MK was the most sought after title on it. We have seen this before.

>>738386363
Copy and paste where I said anything about 3D Mario in my first post. You’re absolutely seething and I hope you’re this mad when you die.

>>738381062
On an investor call they got the question how they would make it work with dev times becoming longer and longer and Nintendo said they would release somewhat smaller games to fill up the releases.

It has been planned. Maybe 60 and not 50, but cheaper titles were on the menu.
Anyway, my take away is that I hate the internet.
>nintendo games never below 70!
>here, most of our games are 20 bucks below the competition on release
>WHAT HAHAHAH

>>738386427
>>738386449
This is hilarious!
Concession accepted, reply again if you're mad.

>>738380286
I wonder what you will accomplish if you use your drive for shitpost into something of value.

>>738380286
Wtf? I don't remember ever even hearing about this game, I didn't know Switch 2 had a mario tennis

>>738386480
Splatoon is not going to be "smaller" than Yoshi, price doesn't mean much

>>738386558
>>738386449
You said Switch 2 has done what it has without a Mario game, presumably a 3D Mario, unless you meant something else.

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>>738386654
No, I said that Mario kart 8 was the best selling switch 1 game. Then I linked Nintendo’s direct website proving me right.

>>738386708
Oh you must be the wrong guy then

Star Fox really broke /v/

>>738386975
*snoys

>>738387024
Yes, but still.

>>738387024
>>738386975
If anything its just proof that if Nintendo butchers an old IP, Tendies dont give a shit since its from their favorite corporation

>>738386975
Star fox broke me when I bought the 3ds version years back and beat it in 45 minutes. Thank fucking god I bought it used from GameStop so I could just return it. You people have 0 fucking standards.

>>738386975
Games looks like shit and is another 64 remake but it's at least not priced too badly

>>738387253
Isn’t it a $60 full priced game lmfao?

>>738386654
Thanks for confirming you're still mad.
Reply again.

>>738387298
$50 digital. $60 physical. With single and multiplayer modes and challenges.

>>738387339
Why would I be mad

>>738387364
>same price as splatoon raiders
The game is 2 hours long Isn't it?

>>738387448
see
>>738386558

>>738380286
I thought the change in price was due to Nintendo being able to buy smaller carts, then again still no price drop and cart shrink on other titles.

>>738381003
All the assets see major touch ups, why wouldn't you reuse animations between games while building up a library of reusable content to save development time.

>>738382618
Depends on how things pan out, if we see real third party support I think Switch 2 will outsell Switch 1, but that probably won't happen, better, but nothing compared to Playstation. There's also the issue of Nintendo's releases, Switch in it's first year had 3 must have major system sellers that got in early and lasted and had 1 for it's second year, Switch 2 so far has 1, and it's unlikely that it will get a second within the next year.

>>738387706
Can you prove anyone is mad?

>>738387231
What ending did you get?

>>738387623
Multiplayer mode and challenges.

>>738387623
It's probably reusing a LOT of assets from Splat 3 so it's easy to make, game is like 20gb so even if the 4k stuff it's still more than starfox , price doesn't mean quality, MKW proved it

>>738387796
No idea, this was like 11 years ago or so.

>>738387791
Yes. I'l do it in your next post.
Reply again if you're still mad.

>>738380286
It was too soon to do a new one of these. I couldn't be fucking bothered.

>>738388242
You can't prove that's why I have replied. I can reply for any reason. No solid evidence.

>>738388104
I'm just going to have a laugh because you definitely got the easy ending, and called it a day, the game had a slew of additional levels you could play through if you achieved certain objectives, there were even alternate segments of some levels. In the level Macbeth if you hit every switch the boss crashes into the depot and dies instantly and you go to a different level afterwards, in order to get to Macbeth in the first place you need to beat the previous boss before he slaps slippy into a nearby planet and you have to go to Titania to rescue him, the game is literally designed for multiple playthroughs.
I hope you enjoyed whatever you purchased with that return money.

>>738388353
>He's still mad
Reply again! Keep doing what I tell you to do.

>>738389050
At least I can play Elden Ring

>>738389128
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>>738380286
i can't fucking believe that tranny named eric single handedly defeated a multibillion dollar corporation and turned public opinion against them

>>738389727
Probably because he hasn't.

>>738380286
Why can't they make a Mario baseball game again

Why specifically did this flop so hard, it's a perfectly decent tennis game. There's no reason for it to perform this poorly

>releases a summer sport tennis game in winter

You're supposed to release this shit like the same week Wimbledon starts when people are hyped around tennis. Fucking February bro?

>>738390370
Because it's almost identical to the Switch 1 version.
It even reuses the same models and animations.

>>738390370
Identical on the surface to Aces, on a system that can already play Aces, for $70. It's become clear that pricetags have set expectations for Nintendo consumers and you need VERY big/popular IPs/sub-IPs to get people to overcome the hurdle. Mario Tennis is not one of those, and it opened worse than every game in the series except for the VB game as a result (and Fever had about the same hardware install base on release as Aces did on Switch 1, so that's not a factor). Honestly though, I wonder if Donkey Kong Bananza falling off hard after its first quarter and not even selling a million during the holiday season quarter was where Nintendo first started sweating.

>>738387751
Kirby Air Riders was the #1 dream sequel for me and I can't even fucking play it bc Nintendo has released zero other games to tempt me into the Switch 2. They went from the best console evee made to one of the worst. Hubris

>>738384269
Power Pro has a stranglehold on Japanese baseball games.

>>738391209
The multiplayer for KAR already dried up too and with no sales on it, the user base that quit isn't being replaced, so you basically missed your window to even play it in a meaningful way.

>>738391209
Didn't you want a Switch Pro, like eveyone else? I thought it was worth the upgrade for the improved loading times alone.

>>738391520
>meaningful way
Local is the only real multiplayer mode.

>>738390920
The buy in for a Switch 2 is too much. No parent is spending $600 on a 2 and a Donkey Kong gane

>>738391809
Where does it cost $600 for that?
Are you using Australian dollars or something?

>>738391809
The big brained thing to do is spend $1000 on a playstation 5 so you dont have to spend $450 on a switch 2.

>>738392012
Nobody's defending the PS5 though?

>>738392012
>$1000
the fuck? it comes with a phone plan here if you want to get really swindled and is about €600-700 in stores

>>738383430
>Mario Kart World
>without a Mario game
Choose One. Kart is bigger than the mainline.

>>738381046
Nintendo usually only tends to provide numbers on individual titles when then hit over a million copies sold. There's a very real chance that we WON'T be seeing its' sales tomorrow.

>>738380286
>single player campaign was literally <5% tennis by playtime.