Is it gamers overreacting again, or do they have a point?
>>738382316What the hell happened now?
>>738382316They didn't have a point the last 5 times, so probably not.
NaThe devs are genuine weirdos. Theyve had problems with their own community for a while now, theyre super autistic about meta
>>738382360Dad gamers are upset because dev told them that shitters are not entitled to max difficulty
>>738382316Every single review bomb was deserved, so this one definitely is too>>738382396Glazecuck cope
>>738382316I play Helldivers with two of my friends sometimes, and I only play it while high because I'm not good at it. My friends are really good at it. I have a lot of fun shooting things and sometimes we randomly kill each other for laughs. Game is fun. Thanks for reading my blog.
>Arrowhead slightly nerfs something or doesn't give something to the players for free>RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Every single time
>>738382316BVROOOOO THE GAME IS TOOO HAAARDDDDDD I CANNOT SEE WITH MY 40 YEAR OLD EYES BROOOO SO MANY ENEMIES ON MY SCREEEEEN
>>738382453You are downplaying how autistic the devs have been about difficulty these last two years. For some reason they hate the idea of players successfully beating tier 7 and up so they keep one uping themselves by not fixing bugs that make the game harder, by stealth buffing enemy, and constantly nerfing meta loadouts and this has created a ridiculously autistic feedback loop
>>738382316Chinese again?
>>738382582I dont even know what the meta is. I havent unlocked half the shit either.Im still having casual fun in highest difficulty games.It's unironically a skill issue and I'm happy that devs are shitting on retards who look up "meta builds" in a pve game.
>>738382360the devs are openly shitting on their players on official channels
>>738382686>>738382651I hate to say it but the devs are right
>>738382651>>738382686Actually based, gonna go buy Helldivers 2 even tho I won't play it.
>>738382651Based devs making dad gamers cry.
>>738382686based devsfuck reviewfagsfuck mom&popfags
>>738382668Yea unironically it seems like there are a bunch of the player base that are whining babies who only do the hardest difficulty
>>738382668I dont know, it seems like youre intentionally being oblivious. The devs just have a problem admitting that the game is designed kind of shittely. If you plan on playing anything above tier6 then it just turns into players running away from everything because theres no point in trying to play the actual game when youre punished for it. Theyve been having these issues since launch because arrowhead are so ass backwards that they think teamkilling is fundementally ok
Chinkoids seethe again?
>>738382497I bet you play on difficulty 5 fucking casul
>>738382686>git gudMy thoughts exactly
>>738382316Game for cattle who enjoy having ngameguard on their personal computer.
>>738382316I have no idea why they try to make this game "difficult and competitive" instead of it being a power-fantasy
>>738382808Sounds like a skill issue, lower the difficulty because you clearly can’t beat the hardest difficulty
>>738382316I don't know where all these troons came from to defend this game, not everyone likes having a dick shoved up their ass
>>738382897t. Never played hd1It's a hard game which is why it was good
>>738382453>shitters are not entitled to max difficultygoodthey should earn the liberation instead of just walking to get it.they would not survive PD2 OD Goat Sim on the First Patch
>>738382918Is this what you guys are relegated to? Pre 2015 dark souls insults?
>>738382808The game is literally about you playing as fodder trying to accomplish shit before running out of manpower.Of course its about doing drive-bys with nukes
>>738382982No, I never played HD1. Neither did the majority of people who tried HD2. You can have your difficult game, I got tired of playing only meta and going the same things every drop after the first 3 months
>>738382316if I buy something I shouldn't lose access to it because they nerf it into the ground. I'll never give this company money again these guys are the definition of no fun allowed
>>738383164How did you lose access?
>>738383164>This weapon can no longer deal with everything the game throws at me?! It's fucking USELESS! MONEY STOLEN!
>>738383148>I don't like the games ganeplay>Buys game anyway >It's the communities fault the game is bad Retard.
>>738382453>max difficultyI play exclusively on D10. The difficulty is not the problem. Dumping 10 Vox Engines in Cyberstan is just pants on head retarded. "Its the hardest difficulty!!!" isn't an excuse for braindead mission design.
>>738382316The devs and sony never knew what to do with this game.Charged back with paypal when I had the chance
>>738382453wait until they hear about souls games
>>738382897The power fantasy is the first 3 difficulties
>>738382316I follow hd2.Its Malicious devs.They are equally petty and arrogant.Also that they’re sweedish, and like how dealing with the chinese has certain known ‘risks’, the Sweedes carry this air of ‘i know better than my clients’ when they conduct business, and will intentionally sabotage the product if they feel like the client is giving them a hard time.Sony needs to give them the belt again.
>no one still has a good arguments for why devs would hide changes in the devlog (that get data mined after 1 hour anyway)>you still can't steer the fucking hellpod properly and place stratagems in good places because the dev hate the idea of anyone playing in any other way than the one they want
>>738383141It gets to the point where the fun factor disappears.
>>738382360The Helldivers devs are retarded and try to force people to play a certain way, and they try to enforce it through balancing.Including shit like trying to force specific win rates for the different difficulties.If all players became good enough to reliably clear the highest difficulty, they'd decide this is just a problem with the balancing and crank the difficulty up enough that clearing it now relies entirely on RNG
I have never seen a pve game that needed this much "rebalancing" every patch. What the fuck are they trying to balance and why is it so hard?
>hmm gee I WONDER WHY IT'S NEGATIVE AGAIN
>>738382982and the difficulty made sense because at 15 you were facing 100% armored enemies and your basic weapons were stronger than call-ins in 2it was a game of rocket tag and managing the hordes, something that's not possible at all in 2it was like this from the start and every time they start getting the game in a passable state where you're not forced to kite a single neverending reinforcement wave for 9 minutes they fuck it up again with their terrible practice
retard >>738383303
>>738382897>power fantasyThe literal point of being a Helldiver is that you're fodder. You struggle against all odds, not smash through shit like Space Marines.
>>738383406Swede devs legitimately just hate their playerbasesThey're retarded and cant even clear the game on middling high difficulties but have the gall to think that they know best and difficulty 10 should have some 10% win rate at all times or some shit
Players fault. If they had any self respect they would have left this game for dead a long time ago.
>>738383474No, the literal point of being a helldiver is that you have an entire ship at your beck and call with enough firepower to shoot down god.
>>738382316Samir, you have a choice.Beautiful new game difficulty mode where you can buff every enemy and make everyone happy.Or make base game difficulty harder by nerfing the player.
>/v/ is saying it's because it's too hard>/vg/ is saying it's because the game is boring and too easyi don't play modern games, which one is it
I thought we were playing Far Far West now
>>738382360Nerfed a bunch of shitBuffed enemiesNo benefit for players
>>738383283But that's what makes it fun. Dropping nukes on massive targets
>>738383613>the board that doesn't play games>the board that does play gameshmmm
>>738382686Anyone who still plays Helldivers only has themselves to blame really.They made it more than obvious right on launch what kind of people are running this game, and they have proven it again and again basically every month.Takes a certain kind of masochism to still stick with the game anyway
>>738383270>hmmm players are having too much fun using X weapon>New patch: X is now nerfed!!>New content: X2 only $10!
>>738383654not when each target individually requires two nukes
>>738383370Not for people who still actually enjoy the game.
>>738383613Make your own opinion, this game has dedicated spergs here so you wont ever get an honest answer.
Chinks being filtered by highest difficulty on new type of enemies released. Instead of caving to them like they did in the past, making the game piss easy as a result, devs stood their ground and told chinks to git gud. Review bombs followed.
>>738383721you have four players and all of them have access to 4 nukes every 60 seconds
>>738382508People have every right to be upset over paywalled progression in a game that isn't free. Would never have happened 20 years ago.
>>738382316The game has tons of long standing issues and pain points that the devs ignore and its somewhat justified but that said its also highly driven by micro content creator ecelebs ragefarming youtube clicks magnifying it so i also think the playerbase is fags for that. In the end theyre all gay
>>738382316it's the chinese
>>738383613/vg/, like a broken clock, is correct for once.D10 is a cakewalk if you aren't a gamerdad shitter.
I jumped out when I saw that they made weapons purposefully shitIf you kept playing you only have yourself to blame
>>738383278>i don't like being forced into using the same strategy constantly because they keep nerfing everything else>you don't like the "ganeplay">>738383164>i bought a weapon but it got nerfed into the ground making objectively worse than any of the alternatives>you just want a weapon that can kill everything(it's called a recoilless rifle but the devs like it so they don't nerf it but ignore that)hd2 defender reading comprehension (they understand but pretend they don't to bait and/or to have their easy gotcha)>>738383514i did a while ago but there really isn't a game like this so i still hold the retarded hope in my heart that the devs stop being retarded or all die and get replaced by actual humans
>>738383460we don't sign our posts here, buddy
I bet not a single nigger who defends devs here actually did any of that hard bullshit
>>738383776Adding to this, nerfs would not be as big of a deal if it was done to weapons that people didn't pay for.>buy paywalled weapon>it later is changed to not be what you paid for No shit people get upset.
>>738383775>10 more drop 1 minute later, after you've been run over by the other vox engines that can clip through each other
>>738383792>first to cheat>also first to abuse a "report" systemactual insects
>>738383635im loving Far Far West but right now it can't compete much with the little content it has, needs more baking in the oven, I'm rooting for them tho, looking forward for new dakka, spells, biomes and the Ayylmaos
>>738383792Yeah it's only the chinese that has the balls to stand up to retard devs. You faggots should learn a thing or two from them jesus christ
>>738383362>the dev hate the idea of anyone playing in any other way than the one they wantthat has pretty much always been the problem.the devs will do everything they can to force you to play the game exactly the way they think it has to be playedbut the way they think it has to be played isn't fun
>>738383889>the hardest difficulty.. is LE HARD!?
>>738383873glazedivers spend far more time sucking cock than actually playing the game
>>738383947kek'd
>>738383406they believe that they need to have fixed failure rates for the different difficulties, and if players adapt enough to the current challenges to overcome it and increase their win rate, the devs will "rebelance" stuff again (i.e. sabotage the players) to lower the win rate again
20 year olds then: getting married, starting businesses, having children20 year olds now:
>>738383958So we've just circled back around to >>738383283 Automatically refuted. How about you finish swallowing your own cum and then get come back to the thread? It might help you think more clearly.
>>738382316Based devs doing justice for casuls wanting to have coopslop fun with friends
>>738382686Is that actually a dev or a community manager?
>>738384024This is what not being able to buy a house does to a generation
>>738383474yes and helldivers are appropriately fragile, but this kind of game design only makes sense when you yourself have access to serious firepower to compensate for that fragilitydo you think a small bug being able to withstand minigun aimed at its face is fun or makes sense?
>>738384116>>738382686I ask because this is becoming an increasingly common tactic western devs have been usingThey get a "community manager" who is an obvious insufferable cunt, they let them be retarded assholes on social media, then when all the fans' ire is directed at them they fire them and go all "they were out of control and we're sorry" and the idiot fans go "oh the devs actually care because they got rid of that community manager all the problems are solved" when none of the problems were solvedit's just a fucking distraction carnifex meat shield
>>738383613if you use hyper-metaslave loadouts and run optimized strategies while sweating with 3 other trannies in comms the game is too easyif you're a normal guy just clicking what he thinks is cool its too hard
>>738382316they have a point, arrowhead should rename themselves to airhead. its obvious they dont know what direction the game should take. is it a power fantasy? is it a grunt fantasy?
>>738384198Judging by all the white knights here saying based to the dev post, I would say it works great
>>738382316>nerf x>release warbond with items that counters the nerfThey are completly retarded. Fully deserved.
>>738384273They have to be paying these people at this point
>>738384052>and then get come backlol ESLJust lower the difficulty dude.
The people crying are the same people who bitch and moan in fighting games.WHY CANT I GET AWAY DOING SAME THING OVER AND OVER???Appealing to these retards will ruin the game from everyone, even them.I want more variety, more tough nuts to crack. Make me go to absolute limit to win; and kick the civilians to HD3.
>>738384160If you use the actual minigun that's in the game, it penetrates medium armor and shreds those bugs. In fact, the Maxigun is almost a clear-all solution for the bugs, only trumped by chargers and bile titans.
>>738383947this is a free 2 play weapon that's being operated by 2 players at the same time btwskill issue, should've bought the newest warbond!
>>738383283What are you talking about this is peak difficulty designeven better when they stealth buff shit
>>738384464Good morning saar.
Please god I want a refund on this shitty, scummy game
>>738382686normally a dev saying this would be based but Helldiver devs are on another level of stubborn retardation, anyone blindly joining on his side is simply npc sheeple doing it to be contrarians.if you ever find a meta that can handle the hardest difficulty it WILL get nerfed one way or another, the devs don't like it when you git gud, finding that meta comp and finishing the hardest difficulty WAS GETTING GUD, so naturally they rug pull it so they can continue saying git gud until someone gets good again and that gets nerfed too.They REALLY don't like it when people git gud.
>>738384469>being operated by 2 playersIncorrect, its being operated by 2 DEVS, who wiped on a difficulty 6 mission with one objective done on a patch where the autocannon could not harm bile titans at all
>>738384467bro they gave those bugs heavy armor. maxigun DOESN'T penetrate that, or it didn't until they reverted the nerf (but the revert came with buffs in other places obviously because they just cant let players fucking win)
>>738383889What do you expect? A cutscene where everyone claps and tells you that you're a real woman?
>>738384550forgot pic
>>738382316playing live service seems miserable when the devs can just put dog shit in your game for no reason after months of good game
>>738384467the maxi gun is a piece of shit, lmao
>>738384541>Using weapons that are overtuned is gitting gudlollmao evenA good rule of thumb is that if a weapon is capable of dealing with most everything on its own (this part is the important bit), that weapon is overtuned.
>>738382316>>738382360>Make overpowered purchaseable weapons>Nerf them into the ground once people bought.>repeat step 1 to counter the nerfAlso>Playerbase can handle hardest difficulty>Instead of adding harder modes or new enemies that provide challenge, just hard nerf everything the player has and spam more enemies, so now previous designs dont work and everything a bulletsponge to where people cheese by kite trains instead.And finally>Balance everything on data spreadsheets
>>738384529Civilians watch their tone when they talk to Helldivers.
>>738384576>Entire game play revolves around pissing and shitting aoe nukes into blobs of trash enemies >WAAAAAAaaaaa da boog got heavy armour (and nerfed hp) Fucking shitter. The regular shotgun killed them in 2 shots not that anyone even uses it when you have a scorcher that blows everything away with aoe splash
>>738384617That choice of hair says enough desu
>>738384585That's your payment for running free PR for arrowhead is it, a fat jeet calling you a good boy?
>>738383362still no good (or any) answers to this, good to know the only people defending this shit are baiters
>>738384672You do not know how to, or most likely when to, use it if that is your impression of it.
>>738384310you don't even need to pay anyone. all you have to do is let people delude themselves into thinking that they are superior if they defend you, and they'll do it happily.in this case they just have to say that everyone who criticizes them is bad at the game, so now the usual suspects will defend them to the death because in their mind, that means they are good at the game and therefore superior.
>>738384715This is not indian caste system saar, now back to india saar.
>>738384760We had a similar thread 2 days ago, they couldn't adress the point the entire thread and instead just kept repeating "git gud" and kept talking about difficulty
>>738384773>It's actually really deep broMaxi-Larp post
>>738382613Steam implemented this language filter specifically to identify chink review bombs.
>>738384541Ive been barragemaxing since day one and it still hasn't failed me, even on dif10
>>738383362>Place stratagems in good placesRead: in places the enemies cannot reachYou just want to cheese.
I have an idea.>leave the enemies as is>just spawn more of themProtip for extra fun:Some drop temporary upgrades like 10s invincibility, infinite Ammo or a minigun you can carry around with limited ammo.
>>738384754Uh oh, looks like I hit a nerve with the tranny joke
>>738384786It's strange they're like this when they're mostly all dif 5 players telling dif 10 players to get good. Incredibly schizophrenic bunch of people.
>>738384836Can you even articulate why you think it is bad?
>>738384617do consoletards really play like this? there's no way you can read any of the text on that screen
>>738384960So a noob who knows his place is somehow wrong?
>>738384941glazers will defend this btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbucfTBbU5s
>>738384997>>738385035this is the best izzat jeetanon can muster up
>>738384639usually live service slop does this by releasing new content which is more challenging and thus requires the new characters/weapons/whatever to keep up with the difficulty.HD2 is just the same content, but they directly nerf the old stuff while buffing the enemies.
>>738384926the enemy can reach everywhere thanks to their ability to phase trough wall bug that still hasn't been fixedalso 90% of the time they bounce even in places where enemy can reach them
>>738384731man I loved the hive guard "buff" since their body AV and hp got nerfed, meaning light pen weapons dealt full damage and could dispatch them easily with a couple shots through the gapsbut nope, having to aim 2 pixels lower turned out to require too much brain power for the average bug diver so they sharted and farted until AH caved in and reverted the change.
>>738384926>in places the enemies cannot reachGood thing those places don't exist, since enemies just noclip through everything and can climb up cliffs.
>Devs telling people to git gud when they can't even finish a difficulty 6 mission in their own game
>>738385039They do, huh?Are those glazers in the room with you right now?
>>738382360They gave a pretty disastrous AMA, basically if the vaguepost king decided to learn corpospeak. This is generally just disappointment from over half a year of buggy patches coming to a boil after a failed damage control attempt.>Do you plan to refine the games core systems and fix longstanding bugsWe are away of the bugs but would prefer to add new, novel, exciting, (limited time), content>You finally added the weapon customization menu, but the warbonds are still filled with sidegrades of weapons with different bullets, scopes, and magazines, wasn't the point of weapon customization to make new weapons more uniqueWe are aware of the playerbases concerns and are listening intently but this is not a priority at the moment>There seems to be a trend of making enemies with extremely specific counters and then selling those in the next warbond, people are getting concerned about this "make a problem and sell the solution" practice, or being pigeonholed into very boring generalist loadouts if they don't.We are aware of this sentiment but it is not a concern for us right now.>There is a general discontent with the GW being railroaded and the lack of permanent endgame contentOh you sweet summer child...if only you knew,,,big things are planned...big end game things...
>>738385141Implying they can finish difficulty 4 is really pushing it quite frankly
>>738385170They are even in this thread.
>>738385092>cant answer a question >immediate jeet projection
Can we put a ban on Swedes from making co-op horde shooters ever again?
>>738385141When the devs are shown to play D10 missions (which they have done on stream multiple times), you just deflect that it doesn't count if it isn't specifically the balance team playing.
>>738385229Did they tell you to transition?
>>738384938>just spawn more of themThere's a concept in game development called rendering budget. You cannot infinitely add shit without taking performance hits, but I agree this would be more fun.>>738382316>dont bugfix for months, only when it will affect a warbond>buff the shit in the warbond>buff the enemies so the previous buffs are moot>still dont bugfix the game>add more ragdolls for some reason>tweak enemies that didnt need tweaking>still dont bugfix the game>create a tedious sub-faction that most people dont enjoy playing against>still dont bugfix the game>introduce problems, sell solutions in the latest warbondGee, it's almost like people are fed up of this broken piece of shit game with dogshit design.
>>738385238Better yet, just ban swedish game studios entirely
>>738384690Bold of you to assume they have spreadsheets. They balance on vibes.
>>738384495>don't kill enemies>lots of enemies stack up on screenwuuuuh what am I supposed to do????
>>738385192>we are aware of the bugs but would prefer to add more bugstop lel
>>738385306you don't play the game
>>738385240>(which they have done on stream multiple times)
>>738385340you don't play the game
>>738384541Year 2 of explosive metaBalanced because devs blow themselves up in every test
>>738385292It's better than shitty bullet sponge enemies
>>738385379no i don't, i used to and stopped back when d9 was the hardest (and harder than current d10) and a single reinforcement call spawned 14 bile titans that took 2 recoilless to killno more (You)s, lazy faggot
>>738385231Don't you have anything better to be doing right now, Scams Jorjani?
the game is nothing but farming money from sunken cost retards through releasing war bonds that fix the issue which they introduced with the last balancing patch
>>738385126if i pick a weapon with lower damage but higher penetration it's because i don't want to think about chaff enemies too much and just shoot into the crowd,especially with something like a maxigun
>>738385463>I don't play the game but I will give my opinionKILL YOURSELF
>>738385469You don't have to sign your posts on this website
>>738384926No i want the airstrike to go where i throw it. Not bounce then roll for five seconds and then get called in on nothing.
nice deflection, learn to argue
>>738382453Devs are absolutely right about that but they should fix more glitches
>>738383053>They wouldn't play unfun garbage on a meme difficultyI'm not suprised that glazecucks are the same people that played OD in PD2, after all both games rely on cheesing and avoiding the enemy on their highest difficulties and only spergs find that enjoyable
>>738385512I see why they make you do this for free
>>738385238swedes always make the most amazing base game skeleton and then a switch flips and they somehow start fucking shit up beyond recognition. did they make a deal with the devil?
>>738384541yeah I'm on the dev's side on this one, you're whining too much
>>738385516It does that in 99% of cases, and the 1% of cases is user error throwing the ball at a high cliff or other inaccessible geometry. If you know where the ball will not activate, you do not throw it at those places. Simple as.
>>738385463>I don't play the game but I will give my opinionBased, keep posting
did the devs ever do that max difficulty charity challenge that caused controversy a couple of months ago? that would be an easy way to shut people up, unless...?
>>738385553>Rely on cheesing and avoiding the enemy on their highest difficultiesYou can clear the objectives and extract on D10 without running away, quite easily in fact.
>>738384926>enemies cannot reach the middle of the streets in Cyberstan>But Vox engines can clip through walls and land on top of buildings
Still playing with my bros every weekend and still having fun
>>738385238Just dont buy swedish games, they always mess the games up in the long run due to retarded patches and a stubborness to do everything against what players want. >Battlefield>Helldivers 2>Valheim>Fatshark's gamesThey all crash and burn sooner or alter.
>>738385695>Janky bullshit is okay, because its max difficulty, git gut>its meant to be super hard ya know>actually d10 is quite easy I don't know what you're complaining aboutWhy are schizos like this even allowed internet access?
>>738385670No, they said the evil fascist chud deserved being doxxed and patted the subreddit on the back for defending them
>>738385757It's meant to be harder than the lower difficulties, which it is. But that doesn't mean it is impossible, far from it.
everyone complaining in this thread has over 500 hours played, right?
>>738385727Literally 3 of those games were ruined by doing *exactly* what the players want tho.
>>738385126>>738384731>>738384467The problem isn't that it was hard, the question is what exactly was the point? Who was sitting around saying "what is wrong with the Hiveguard?" Fucking nobody. Nobody wanted it to have heavy. It being one of the 2 total med armor bugs was kind of like, the whole point. Who had a melty thinking we were killing them the wrong way or something by not flanking it or whatever gay shit they wanted players to do? And what the fuck was the change, when it actually made it completely easier to kill? The real problem was that the change is an indirect nerf to MG sentry, Gatling sentry, and Guard Dog. They can only aim center mass so when a group of 5 of these fuckers show up your turret is wasted. All those strat competing for our 4 slots are the last thing that should be getting hit with an nerf or made useless. There are already so many I scroll right past without ever thinking of using and I'm sure all other players feel the same way, do we really need to be taking utility away from strats?>>738384576okay smooth brain they didn't even "buff" the body, they nerfed the HP and body defense before when they buffed the armor plate and then they reverted all changes back to how they were.
I don't play so I'm just saying this as an outsider.I've heard from HD2 players that the community is one of the worst, most toxic/vitriolic/etc.,but that's the complete opposite impression I received from all of the fandom stuff I come across.It all feels positive and enthusiastic and all that.I have never observed such a stark gap before. What gives?
>>738385240>(which they have done on stream multiple times)shams, alexus, joel, whoever you are, you are a lying nigger
>>738385918I wanted it to be heavy. And still do.Now they're just useless chaff, complete zero bullet sponge that you kill last since even the skittering fucks are more important.Hive Guard had a role and purpose with the heavy head, now they don't. The game lost depth, but hey, you civilian get to just unload your gun to them and get your victory without adapting. Well done.
>>738382686this shit is from 2 years ago
>>738385918Well, look at it from the other angle. If a long-lasting stratagem can clear the field of everything but heavies, what's the point of players having personal firearms at all? Just bring turrets/drones and AT, right?Turrets and drones should only really be for thinning the horde, not for obliterating it entirely.
>>738385240>(which they have done on stream multiple times)should be pretty easy to get a link then
>>738385884anyone under 123.3 hours is a noob casul, and anyone above is a sweaty tryhard
>>738385918>Who was sitting around saying "what is wrong with the Hiveguard?"Lots of people did. Hive guards are absolutely useless
>>738386069>Now they're just useless chaff, complete zero bullet sponge that you kill last since even the skittering fucks are more important.That doesn't change whether they have heavy armor or medium armor, dipshit
>>738382686Actually based. Im gonna buy a copy now
>>738382316Devs want to be balancing a PVP game and not a PVE game
>>738386209Fuck off glazing reditor you are shit at the game and don't even play 10
you're still playing anyway
>>738386052Toilet gets hundreds of shits a year, i am surprised and shocked when there is a shit on my table.
>>738386227Arrowhead doesn't even give their employees the game for free? Lmao, what a worthless company, no wonder devs don't want to play it if they have to waste their paycheck on it
>>738386223If they do their work and block the attacks, then they do their job. Now they dont.But hey the game got easier for you and you got what you wanted.
>>738386373Help me. Im stuck in the HQ's basement, they haven't fed me in weeks
>>738386069the game didn't lose depth you're just a suboptimal shitter bringing med pen to the bug front where higher dps light pen guns reign supreme. If you were already using the appropriate guns then it gave you pause before you wasted ammo on it and focused on lighter targets. It moves at a snails pace and is basically there to exert a territorial pressure and not a direct attack threatand no, making MG turret useless isn't a role a purpose. The actual heavy enemies were already there for that role. You could sneeze at "buffed" hiveguard and it died, with the lower HP it died easier than ever and Heavy armor didn't do shit to make it more valuable or interesting.
>>738382316Fuck em kek
>>738386426Lol the civilian is seething.>Its not good if game makes me play tacticsokay
what is wrong with the chinese?
>>738386391>If they do their work and block the attacksThey never did. The bugs don't have some hyperintelligent AI that puts the shrimps in some kind of phalanx. The fast bugs just walk around them and jump at you, and you're going to kill them first as you kite the others around. It's not difficult, before or after the change. If anything, it just got easier.But keep strawmanning this as some kind of skill issue. You don't actually know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>738382848Probably 4
>>738386426>Drawing fire from turrets to allow the rest of the horde free movement in the killzone is not a roleSounds like a role to me.
post emgame is shit, got buggier and more bloated than ever, crashing every single session with balance still being atrociousi do not care to reinstall to find out if they fixed any of that shit when the burrowing bugs were objectively shit game design
>>738382757>>738382852>>738382918Bot posting There's more but I'm too lazy to mention all the bots
>>738386069>>738386209>>738386147>everything that is not heavy pen or explosive can fuck right offFuck you niggersHow about making common mobs more durable than player tanks, you would just buff its head durability and add a new behavior that charges faster the more you shoot its head?Or is this team this incompetent, that the only thing they can do is swap numbers in database?
>>738386550It clearly did block since you casuals are seething, pissing and crying yourself over one fucking chaff throwaway bug that were like handful in a pack.Thats the whole reason of this conversation, you cant get good.
>devs make stupid fucking unnecessary changes>people immediately assume the fanbase is the one at fault
I remember them being fucking retarded and nerfing the only weapon that dealt with the 20 chargers that would spam spawn.Then acting like faggots>HURR PEOPLE ONLY WANT TO MAKE THE GAME EASYWhen people wanted to bring anything else its just 90% of the game was dealing with goddamn chargers so they brought the only weapons that dealt with them.
>>738386209it worked when like 8 of them show up at once surrounded by 30 other bugs, when this slow thing you deemed low prio creeps up on you while you turn to deal with being flanked. >>738386147and they don't even do that unless you're playing level 5 or something, it's already destroyed instantly by chargers does it really need change to this paradigm?
>>738384541The devs have never touched the explosive meta. It's a fucking joke. If you use anything else they tell you to go fuck yourself and nerf it.
>>738386783They didn't bring the "only weapons that dealt with them", they brought the weapons that dealt with them with impunity. This discussion has only ever been about effort, and the playerbase clearly wants to exert none of it when it comes to dealing with bigger enemies.Pre-nerf chargers could be brought down with disposable AT just fine, it just didn't happen with one shot so it was deemed "useless" by the playerbase.
>>738385616you've never done div 10 lol
This whole difficulty thing strikes me as an ego problem. You really want to play your little wittle hard difficulty? Aww, just stomp your feet and make them acquiesce and it's the same as winning, the screen said so! Time for bedtime anyway, my wife will KILL me if I stay up too late, you guys.
>>738386881>Pre-nerf chargers could be brought down with disposable AT just fine, it just didn't happen with one shot so it was deemed "useless" by the playerbase.no one actually complained about "leg strip meta" when it was happening EXCEPT the swedish niggers running the game.
>>738386881>Pre-nerf chargers could be brought down with disposable AT just fine, it just didn't happen with one shot so it was deemed "useless" by the playerbase.because it is useless when the game spawns 10 of them in close succession, and EATs didn't have the cooldown they have today
>>738386914Are you retarded? Why would you type shit like that?
Think its just strange that it's mostly furries and troons that defend arrowhead.
>>738382316Oh look it's yet another review bomb where you fags cry about something retarded and I continue to play and have fun.
>>738386721Keep telling yourself that. The change was bad because it was arbitrary and did nothing to improve or mix up the experience. You dealt with them the exact same way.But let's focus on that and not the other 100 bugs and design decisions that make this game miserable to play as time goes on.
>>738387098Saying the most retarded strawmans imaginable is the new meta by the shillbots
>>738387019You have four divers, anon. That's eight EATs, or even a recoilless if you're feelin' spicy.But that just wasn't as hassle-free as one or two people bringing the railgun, was it? It always comes down to ease of use. Always.
>>738386529well timed and placed stratagem use IS the tactics, between cooldown and tradeoffs each one has and different roles they have.running and gunning to aim just under the face plate is rambo brute forcing enemies there was nothing tactical about this change, people shot Hiveguard from the front before and they did it after the change even easier.
>>738387268>bringing up launch day RR yeah you didn't play the game at all back then, if ever
>>738386620The problem is that they didn't do that>Gatling and machine gun turret are medpen generalist picks for the bug front>Medpen is now practically useless on the bug front>So I just bring a different turret>Do I pick the tesla turret, with malicious swede coding that prioritized friendly fire over hitting enemies>Do I bring the bugged flamethrower turret that can spawn with a 20m minimum range on a 12m attack>Or do I bring the weak as shit suicidal laser turretAt least some people saw it as nerfing the free stuff to redirect people to the normally weaker paid content.
If you don't post patch notes then you're a coward.
>>738387256This game has a problem every other week, if you guys truly had a problem you'd stop buying the dlc and stop fucking playing
>>738383613D10 Isnt that hard and I barely play HD2 anymore
>>738387441I wonder why the devs can't do it then
>>738382316Genuinely, they need to stop listening to them. Im going to have a spastic meltdown over this shit. It seems like a good idea till you realize they are just shit at the game.The game is far too easy, the changes they make make it challenging, rather than turn down difficulty they instead want the whole game nerfed. I fucking hate this, I like this game, a vocal loud part of the community is actively trying to turn it into mindless shit where youy barely have to pay attention>what do you mean I cant run off on my own and clear the map solo in this multiplayer game!? I have to play with people?!>what do you mean the primaries cant handle everything and you have to use stratagems, the unique aspect of the game, to succeed>what do you mean I havent lost a single game in ove 200 hours and am still complaining enemies are too hardMake a prestige rank that you have to earn entry to, fuck these people off into their own category if they lack the capacity to turn the difficulty down. I WANT the fucking difficulty, I want to have to actually try.>Cyberstan is too hard>The spores are too fast>the bugs having armour makes them harderFuck you, give me that shit. The bug one in particular is rancid, the enemies spawn far less and have less health, being armoured doesnt make them harder to kill, they die easier than before now, people just want to be able to not aim and still get the kill. and the speed is perfect, just remove the spore effect so melee weapons are more viable. Mechs are fantastic, they dont need to do anything to them, people just play like shit with them, just people watch in this game its fascinating.>calls down mech in the middle of a wave right in the middle of enemies>"wtf my mech died, devs suck at balance"How are these people real.
It literally is a skill issue
>>738387570What the fuckI'm a total shitter and Extreme is really not that bad
>>738382316I already want Helldivers 3>you don't select missions you select entire planets to defend and can free roam on these>more vehicles>RTS and base building mechanics think about natural selection>squads of 8they made already enough money should be no problem to get this done.
>>738387559so you enjoy your giant armored futuristic hyper tank getting 3 tapped by a 2lbs bug?the entire point of a tank should be to be immune to the weakest enemies in the game, but nah, give rats the ability to pierce 3 metres of steel armor that makes sense
>>738387797>should be no problem to get this done.yeah right
>>738387570nobody who plays the game cares about dying, half the people that got that probably did it on accident, its how i got mine
Reminder that the devs will say "git gud" but they don't play above D6
>>738387910>$800 million in gross revenue, or an estimated $700 million to $800 million in total revenue.realistic speaking a game like that with sony funding should be no problem.
>>738387903Fucking console shitters I swear...The tank is god mode vs bugs and illuminate if it dies before you run out of ammo it's you that's the shitter.
>>738382453>Dad gamers are upsetIt's the Chinks as always.
>>738387696its less Extreme being hard and more your teammates being Lvl 30 sub 80 IQ mongoloids
>>738387930No one should also be dying on purpose, so if most people playing the game do not have that achievement it means most of the people playing the game are shitters.
>>738388019yeah it was godmode before every enemy in the game had their durability damage tripled, if you don't even play the game and don't know what changes were made shut the fuck up
>>738385727Fartshart are the only semi competent swedes as VT2 and Darktide are actually fun
>>738387570Desu you can get really shitty death in HD 2 and it's not tied to difficulty.At launch you would die from shriekers ragdoll and bile touching your cape. Right now you can die from a mech walking near you.
>>738388003realistic speaking a game like that with arrowhead as developers will never fucking work
>>738385240I saw them "play" a d10 repel invasion mission on stream during the invasion of super earth (one of the hardest mission types because they fucked up the spawns and it would just endlessly spawn gorillions of enemies). They had two randoms on the team who carried them while they died over and over and threw orbital airbursts and cluster bombs on dropships, which don't damage or blow them up (the mission objective was to blow up dropships)And that's the only time I've ever seen them play d10.
>>738388174Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me
>>738387163Why do you think people are defending them so hard ITT?I genuinely only see furfags and trannies defending Arrowheads retardation
>>738388047and most people don't but getting jumped by a ninja charger, getting obliterated by a tower turret from across the world or running into a zap trap will happen regardless of your input
>>738388197Helldivers 2 is already a huge step from Helldivers 1. I don't see why they can't do it.
>>738388129Again it goes back to what that other anon said where swedes make excellent base games and then run them into the ground so whenever you play them you can sense the inner workings of a REALLY great game that's trapped behind swedish nonsense. Both tide games are like this.
>>738387559>rather than turn down difficultyhave you niggers who play on d9-10 actually looked at other difficulties before? I would say that, before Into the Unjust launched in october, the balancing across difficulties was pretty fine tuned. d1 to d10 you knew exactly what you were signed up for. Starting with Hiveworld biomes every "new content" they add is actually pretty homogenized across all difficulties. Trivial is supposed to be a 2 minute pointless romp where you land your hellpod on a broadcast tower and extract right away. On Hiveworld it's doing 2 main stage objectives on a medium sized map.Try doing Mindless Masses solo on level 2 for "evacuate personnel", the game spawns one 10+ group of voteless after another consecutively no matter how many you clear the problem isn't that this content isn't unplayable... It's not like these issues make the game too hard, but these are all tests I've done across all difficulties every content update, usually I just want a quick solo run to finish the PO or I'm farming or running gear tests... but I've done it for a long time when I play this game and it paints a pretty consistent picture:Whenever a new "content update" comes out for Helldivers 2, the devs did absolutely 0 work integrating it into the existing difficulty systems. They throw in content with pretty much static parameters and to me the only thing that actually seems to function is the toggle for whether Heavies spawn in that difficulty or not. No one tests things to see what they're breaking, no one's testing to see if systems that were so fine tuned at the start still work, what they call "tech debt" is lazy work. So when I drop in any difficulty and see enemies blind spawning behind me within 20m, no, I don't trust the devs or their decision making when it comes to balancing I trust them to be retarded and make the game unfair for the sake of it.
KWABOTY
>>738388087>Tank was released after the durability patch >Claims I don't play the gameOk reditor
The negative review stays until morale improves
>>738388327>Tank was released after the durability patchWhat are you on about?
>buff random chaff enemy to have more armor than a literal tank>nerf everything that isn't part of the explosive meta >buff enemy durable damage so they now 1-2 every single sentry and because the mechs finally got buffedThis is just the tip of the retardation iceberg and motherfuckers will act like this shit is ok.
>>738385340>>738385379I also don't play the game. just informing you for your benefit
>>738387903It really doesnt though, it can eat multiple charges from a charger now and the only way to get it destroyed is if you are getting bombarded by melee on the chest specifically, it even eats rockets, it was a mobile shooting platform before the update, now you will lose your arms and legs before you lose the whole suit and the tank is invincible unless youre a retard.If they make mechs on par with tanks then they are must have stratagem simple because they can solo everything, the tank at least requires 2 people, a mech does not. I literally tech a mech every loadout because they are effectively a turret you can walk with and aim, meaning I dont have to waste slots on said turrets or stratagems, if I also got armour I would have no need for the tank or any shielded stratagems, because this does everything in one stratagem.Add a superheavy mech suit, make a distinction, that would be my soloution, let people know its a shooting platform, not a tank that can sprint.
1500 hour glazediver, games mostly fine retards cant aim 2 inches lower on hiveguards, later.
>>738385240Those streams where they run around like headless chickens alongside a guest (professional streamer) who hard carries them through the level? Yeah, I remember
>>738388305>1 week to revert changesjesus fucking christ
>>738388473Unfortunate side effect of a non gamebreaking/abuse bug change due to consoles.
>>738388473Please understand the Swedes had a 4 day weekend they can't possibly have someone around to fix their issues because it would interfere with their time off.
>>738388283You say its unfair, I still struggle to lose. Launch difficulty was what I want the return of, I want ot have to try and work with a team, seeing people running off on their own on the spore maps only to die minutes later and the person quits is just common place now. They are playing like they get to roll a spliff and watch a movie on their other monitor.
>>738383283Reminder that difficulty scales based on hardware quality. People claiming it's easy are outing themselves.
>>738382360Zoomers are crying because the game is hard for them.
>bugs up the ass that are not fixed since release>malicious "fixes" like hellpod steering rather that uses the existing enemies to reach helldivers on high ground>enemies still fucking noclip>the entire AMA from the CCO that went "We know what you want but we want more money."The only good thing that the latest update brought is that I can't boot the game anymore on linux unless I use bleeding-edge on proton and even then it's a 60% chance it works.And they fucked linux because they've updated their anticheat to stop the sc drops only for the menus to bypass the fix 48h later.
>>738388473if its not the autocannon then dogshit changes only get fixed a week later, if ever
QRD? I haven't played since the laval planet was added.I swear this community flip flops on the drop of a dime.
>SC dropper unfunctional again>arrowhead moving from GG to EACdark times ahead of us farmers
>>738388204But it's true. You can die easily in that game and I think it's fine. You get tons of reinforcements so might as well use them.You can die simply because your ally chose to run the arc rover, and by god I dread playing on planets where the 380mm HE stratagem is given to everyone because I know some newbie will misuse it.
>>738388754Once again, because redditors decided to protest loudly using the cheat.
>>738382316Every week with this game, I swear.
>>738388635>only for the menus to bypass the fix 48h later.huh?
>D10 not fun because it's just heavy and superheavy enemy spam, it's not HARD, you just have to play like a faggot and spam stratagems while running away>Lower difficulties not fun because it's simply too fucking easyWhat's the fix sirs?
>>738388576I didn't say high diff is unfairI say that every balancing change they've ever made to the game is ill-conceived or unfair when scaled across the system they put in place.>seeing people running off on their own on the spore maps only to die minutes later and the person quits is just common place nowand really this problem has more to do with the new crop of divers than anything, it's endemic across all difficulties and it's 100% new players thinking they are entitled to punch above their weight class. Personally I mainly play 6 and so I CAN chill and rambo carry all the retards and I never cease to run into the shittiest player under level 30.
>>738388754>GG to EACGameGuard to Easy AntiCheat?
Maybe it's because some people realized that they got peer pressured into playing paid always online live service garbage with FOMO, MTX and absolutely retarded devs who don't even play their own game on any serious level & have no idea how to properly balance it long term.Anyone still remember when some guy wanted to openly call out the devs & make them face the crappy state of the game and then the discord "fanbase" wanted to tear him apart?
>>738389003play better games by more talented devs
>>738389003>What's the fix sirs?Not playing the game and shouting skill issue at everyone online
>>738389240>FOMOYou don't even play the game
>>738382360Probably managed to piss if the Chinese
>>738385004He is playing on PC dumbass
>>738389337Uh huh... what's all the limited time bullshit that's in the game then...? Along with the bullshit "dynamic campaign" limiting what kind of content you're allowed to play at the time. Hated that shit in HD1 too.
>>738388453This unironically. Shitters are throwing a fit because the new bug strain is filtering them.
>>738389003They could go the DRG route, having the max difficulty being fairly casual while the players who wants to sweat plays on modded difficulty with group finders on that one VOIP software.
>>738389613>moddednever ever
>>738388754just use the cheat arrows and farm SC yourself you lazy cunt. you're gonna get us honest farmchads fucked with your blatant chinkcheat behaviour.
>>738389408if the chinese what?
>>738388723>new patch is shitbuff mechs health by doubling it, oops mechs too strong gotta buff all enemy durable damage from 0.3 to 0.5. BTW this nerfs all sentries and non mech vehicles since their health didn't get increased but we won't mention that, tee hee. What? Why couldn't we just add 40% mech health instead and leave everything else unchanged?People are always shooting Hiveguard in the front to kill it. How about we change that by making it even easier to kill by shooting it from the front?>selling the solutionthese "buffed" mechs are in the paid warbond>the actual itemsArmor with higher movespeed, it's actually the same movement stats as using Extra Padding of lighter armor, but with the worse stamina consumption of heavier armor. Also this was for the mech theme warbond and does nothing to buff using a mech.The flamethrower on the mech uses stats for the crisper sidearm. Undocumented changes for the game make this flamethrower and the flame turret unable to damage enemies within 3m creating a blindspot they just get fucked in.the crowning piece though is the AMA they did.>Shams literally tells players to touch grass>Joel and others defend the work they are doing on game to bring us "new content">"new content" are generic grass forest and desert biomes, the kind they could half pulled off any public asset farm for pennies>other times it means content that's limited time only, they put in months work for shit people have to fomo in 2 weeks and never see again>completely unapologetic and corpospeaking around criticism
>>738388576launch difficulty and the time after it was only difficult because every weapon and strat was close to being irredeemable dogshit>strafing/gatling had no armor pen>base liberator was doing in the ballpark of half as much damage as it does now>fire DOT only worked for the host for 6 months>stun+OPS was the only reliable way to kill chargers provided the mission modifiers didnt tell you to go fuck yourself by making OPS take 8 seconds to call in or miss 50% of the time>sentries had 240s+ cooldowns>gamers only survived on esoteric metas that relied generally on gamebreaking bugs, like the railgun doing 4x as much damage if a console player was in the lobbyI want the game to be more difficult too but more like “the floors and walls are made out of bots/bugs/squids” and not “all of your weapons are super soakers”
>>738389613They should go the DRG route of not locking the players away from content with FOMO, not being always-online live service bullshit and not kiking people with MTX.
>>738388917devs made a fun game on accident and have been trying their hardest for years to rectify it
>>738382316Game has been shit since it launched, devs barely scraping through to get things working, to this day some things are unbelievably broken and devs show no sign of caring about any of it.In fact their priority is to clearly make the shittiest content bloat known to man in the form of warbonds, everything that is released has no unique role compared to vanilla and is at best shameless power creep, at worst it's a meme that becomes completely useless and forgotten like the entire warbond about stunning.Their understanding of difficulty is bipolar in the best of days and updates will randomly change how hard the also very bloated difficulty options are, so if you're used to playing in 9 against a certain faction for months and months now it's borderline impossible because they decided what was best for the game was to rugpull people into making that nearly impossible, if you wait long enough you will see that go down to normal difficulty 9 again.Right now that's exactly what they did to the new enemies, which were historically never super easy, now they decided to buff the damage of almost every single enemy in the game to deal more damage against vehicles (that by the way, follow completely different rules compared to the enemies vehicles in this "pve with military simulator mechanics" game) also doubling or tripling their health (this is not an exaggeration) and giving them a buff that's easily triggered and makes them outrun a diver in light armor)But the actual eye of the shitstorm this time came from said vehicles, the game has mechs which were comically horrible and weak, but because they are releasing a mech focused warbond they decided to buff them showing that: 1. This is confirms they are really only buffing things they are selling going forward, as it's the second or third time they do this2. They now have a good justification for never ever doing one of the most player requested features in the game, which is mech customization.
>>738388754>>738389695So how do people farn SC now?I remember back at release I'd play diff 1 missions solo ad scour the map for SC drops, do my objective, extract repeat.
>>738389454If you mean the fomo content like Cyberstan or other events being deleted from the game then yeah, it sucks, but in terms of regular play it's miles better than HD1All fronts, all subfactions are always playable, you can endlessly reroll regions until you get the missions and modifiers you want (though this could be streamlined), at worst the faction you want to play against won't have the biome you want, which they should fix, but it's miles above>welp only cyborgs left, see you in 2 months when the war gets lost
>>738382360meta-analytic (anti fun) balancingit geniunely bewilders me that anyone with a competent faculty of thinking could fall into the mindset of looking at what players are doing and nerfing those things instead of making other things better. you couldn’t conceive of a faster way to strip all the fun and interest out of something
Swedish devs have the biggest fucking ego. "hurr I played 1.6 in the mid 2000s i'm hardcore"They get walled by their own game then next update here's massive nerf coming in because a faggot got humbled.
>>738382316it's not review bombing if it's legitimate
>>738389863I just play like I do normally but with the SC arrow mod and prioritize getting them.
>>738388129You did not fucking play VT1 and 2 on release. Those fuckers do not deserve the success.
>>738389863redditors form into teams and farm difficulty 1 grand errant, they split into groups and sweep the map for points of interest4channers download the arrows mod and play the game normally, but they clear every map they spawn into of SC dropsif you're chinese you download a cheat and just spawn SC in
>>738389863it's still the same, you just run level 1 but it's probably debatable what the best overall option is. Typically it's a fire tornado planet or a hiveworld like Oshaune.
>>738389863I think its desert planet and you have to look for a certain layout to get more points of interest
>>738389810Sony will never allow it kek. Silver lining is we get mid licensed warbonds out of it.
The thing that fucks me up is that you need to play the gay baby nigger difficulties to get SCYou can go through 6 entire D10 missions without seeing a single SC spawn
>>738389832>2. They now have a good justification for never ever doing one of the most player requested features in the game, which is mech customization.The fact some chinkoid modder managed to make modular mechs is so funny to me, they even managed to add shit like turrets on top of its main armaments
>>738388961SC drops are back so their attempt at staunching the flow of free premium currency failed and only fucked the regular players in the long run.
>>738390132its always been retarded to me that difficulties where you can effortlessly clear the entire map are clearly superior for farming the most limiting currency in the game (and every other currency but samples for that matter) then the highest difficulties
>>738390132same, even worse with some of the maps being blantantly against POIs spawning on top of having the enemy structures blocking them
>Drop a respawn at my feet.>The other player's hellpod comes in over on the opposite ass end of the fucking map.
>>738390184Really?Just do I need to update somewhere my old cheat?
>Devs have a vision of the game that doesn't fit its playerbase>The devs don't even play the game themselvesIt is literally the most baffling situation I've ever seen in an online videogame, hands down. The entire fucking game just feels like your annoying brother breaking your toys just to spite you, AFTER he refused to play with them when offered.
>skill issueStill waiting for the devs to make that cyberstan perfect run video.
>>738390132Yeah you basically get punished for playing the higher difficulties due to upgrades being tied to resources you have to extract. So if you're playing with a group that can clear D10s but not without using up most of your reinforcements then there's a good chance you are not getting all the resources on the map.
>>738390379this is what happens when niggas who don't play video games make video games, coupled with a shitty work culture and massive dev entitlement
>>738389724>Armor with higher movespeed, it's actually the same movement stats as using Extra Padding of lighter armor, but with the worse stamina consumption of heavier armoris medium/heavy the only armors available? a light speed armor with increased movement speed would be cool
>>738383947The game is shit but that's just as shitty knowledge from those players>Autocannon is a very generalist weapon being used in a desperate situation those players created themselves>It's also the single team operable weapon that is actually best used solo thanks to it's short reload>Also doesn't likes short range>There's absolutely no situation were you need to face down a vanilla BT, while you cannot really outrun it, dodging it's attacks is trivial>They didn't die the first time because this game is a joke and the BT literally cannot aim that particular melee attack>The retard missed most of his shots when he needed to be hitting a single part>Literally any other AT weapon would've one shot that BT in the head, bugs are the only faction ac is bad onIt looks like the shots were glancing or being deflected, and the players were fucking retards and unironically doing team reload on ac which tells me this is a super old webm.
>>738390379Kojima never played his games either.>>738390516Said their influence is tabletop games apparently.
>>738390446Nobody in D10 cares about samples, you're better off playing D6 for that since people there still need them and will try colect them, you were only coming out with 20 samples each anyways but at least now it's (mostly) guaranteed
>>738390559>The game is shit but that's just as shitty knowledge from those playersRetardbroThat infamous video is from the devs playing their game.Thats why people post it, to show how out of touch and fucking bad the developers of this game are
>>738390532the light oxygenated armor is barely faster then other light armors. we’re talking saving one second per 100 meters and not being able to outrun anything that regular light armor can’t already. its a meme.
You should be able to outwork low skill by brute forcing levels/gear. That's how looter shooters are supposed to work. If you can't do that they designed the game wrong.
>>738390605>Said their influence is tabletop games apparently.if they ever DMed once in their life they were railroading faggots that made Fallout 4 dialog options look uniquely different
>>738382582KYS the minor problems with the game are annoying things like invisible enemy corpses you can get stuck on or the loadout menu taking too long to load the pics of the guns, the enemies being hard or whatever is a literal crying tranny sissy faggot skill issue problem. I’m waiting for D11 with even stronger enemies.
>>738390642>That infamous video is from the devs playing their game.>RetardbroVery well i accept this most honorable of titles then
>>738382686I hate dad gamers so much, bros.
>>738390796They have been shitting the bag ever since release, they purposefully release shit weapons or nerf them quickly to make players conform with their vision of difficulty
>>738382686Based? Crying trannies should lower the difficulty unironically.
>Guns that kill shit good>More smaller enemies (that can be killed by said guns that kill shit good)>Like, a SHITLOAD of enemies. Make those consoles go supernova numbers of enemies.>Heavy enemies that are actually threatening and require teamwork to beat, but are rarer.Have I fixed the game?
>>738390532no yeah it's good for that, didn't seem worth mentioning when I'm trying to keep character count under 2k.but still it's effectively worthless on everything else, and they are selling the medium version with maximum drip on Super Store. It's just more showing they have no idea how to make an effective or interesting armor passive... also the last warbond had all 3 armors with DIFFERENT passive traits for their second trait so they COULD have made the Medium and Heavy armors actually do something else they just don't give a shit.also important to note that even using that armor doesn't make you faster than the new buff effect to spore burst bugsand I forgot to mention the sport burst bugs at all, that they shadow dropped this speed boost effect on them despite Spore Burst being in the game for a long ass time already. Now if they walk through the spore burst of another bug, which is always because bugs are always clumped together, they get meth'd out and rush you at impossible speeds. It took until the new patch this week for the game to actually designate them a visible faction on the GW map despite such a huge change.it was so stupid half the players thought maybe the new armor buffed the bugs movespeed too, and honestly with AH's rep there's no telling that it didn't overtune the boost that they receive either... That's kinda up in the air I haven't really heard proof either way. It's almost like, maybe if they warned people they would know it was intended and not their usual "tech debt" fuckery
>>738390993Lower the difficulty, you youtube-ragebait parrot NPC.
>>738390132People have been begging them to make SC pickup quantity directly scale with difficulty since the game came out.Devs are completely aware how shit and tedious the current system is but keeping it that was is how they push MTX.
>>738391082Yes but now the game doesnt run on consoles from the enemy amounts which should be a good thing but here we are
>>738382360They told reddit to lower the difficulty(gravest insult a gamer can receive)
>>738391085Ew. Stop posting you mindless retard. Huge textboxes of shitty opinions framed as some sort of fact. Back to r*ddit with your r*ddit spacing.And the spore burst are already fast but get additional speed if they run through a dead sporeburst cloud. Idk what to tell you get gud and place your shots. The little bugs will speed around in front of you to flank you while the others bring up the rear, shoot the flankers first.>they’re too hard and fast the armor passives aren’t creative enough it’s not my skill issue KYS
>>738391149it's a good thing SC is even farmable. I can't think of another game with premium currency that allows you to get everything without paying. eventually allows, I mean.
>>738382316Who cares? HD2 was never good
>>738390963>invisible desync’d ragdolls of enemies blocking movement or killing you if you use any explosives near them>minor issue
>>738391362its the only coop horde shooter in existence that is actually good>inb4 vermintide/darktidenot shooters, melee games>inb4 DRGdead, no content>inb4 L4D2it's 20 years old now let it rest
>keep making the game unfun and worse to play as if the enemies are going to stop playing if you make the players have fun>player count drops>make more retarded changes and remove incentive to login(medals change)>player count drops even further>conduct jewery and add more things behind paywall>players had enough and start leaving negative reviews*surprised pikachu face*
>>738384541Using meta builds in a coop game is the gayest thing a man can commit. I have never cared about any of the nerfs. I just want them to fix the bugs instead of feuding with reddit
>>738384198>>738384926>>738382360>Gamers: HAHA! this game is easy. make the game harder or else it is boring and that means you hate your customers. I NEED MORE CONTENT>devs make the game harder>Gamers: WTF! you listened to me and made the game harder! that is literallt unfair! You made my cheese strats useless! That means you hate your customers! *reviewbombs and refunds*
>>738391223i miss when horde shooters were actually allowed to have hordes, fuck consoles and fuck crossplay
>>738391082You just described the last update?
There are millions of us, let super reddit die
How can people be this dogshit at this game when D10 isn't even a problem especially on Bugs or Illuminates? Bots are like the only faction where you need to use your brain and Pace yourself to decent degree. Plus the Hive Guard Change was a literal Nothing Burger since they died so fucking quickly
>>738391465>it's 20 years oldSo? How about you come up with legit argument?
>>738391593guns are not killing shit good thougheverchaff enemies should be that. Just chaff to soak your bullets and attention while medium enemies are actually the things that kill you
>>738390605>Kojima never played his games either.and? what does that have to do with anything.and yet all of Kojima's games have well polished game mechanics, well designed gadgets, and enemies that are interesting to interact with. When someone posts videos bullying MGS3 guards with low kicks and masks and porno mags he doesn't nerf those items in the next 2 games. Even without Kojima when Delta was coming out Konami even put up a trailer where someone replicates similar shenanigans with porno mags and C3.>Said their influence is tabletop games apparently.Like other anon said whoever game masters this game is the biggest shithead GM of all time. They constantly set us up to fail on purpose. They used to constantly put up passive aggressive "strategic advisory" comments on the game despite the problem being their poorly explained GW map mechanics.
>>738391465>DRG>dead, no contentdidn't they had a new map and enemies for it not so long ago?
>>738382686Would agree with them if they weren't fags making you toil away at getting SC to unlock anything remotely good and interesting, then nerfing it all once a new one comes out.Oh btw, let's never add any new mission types, upgrades or anything else, enjoy your paid battlepass and enemy buff.
>>738391082Suggestions like this will only get you the usual "D10 too hard for you huhuhuhu" posts. They don't care about making the game a fun challenge, just endless rebalancing and metafaggotry
>>738391614Copying the reddit creek cape was a nice touch, both are major attention whores
Anyone involved in game development and the decision-making as to what should be nerfed and/or made more difficult should be forced to record themselves playing the hardest difficulty of their game, quickplay only, anonymized profile, at least 10-15 matches, and post the resulting video unedited and uncut, voice track included.
>>738383947Not that the problem of weapons being jokes isn't real but the AC has literally never been a heavy AT weapon of any worth and the same situation would have been solved with 1-2 RR rounds. Of course that it and of itself is the problem, its a random matchmaking game where you need specific weapons for generalist builds or you end wasting everyone's time unable to deal with the heavy unit spam and the endgame becomes diving while chugging stims as you run between QTEs until the mission accomplished voice line plays.
>>738391638The hive guard change (most harmless dogshit bug unit in the game btw) mattered for the ones who shot it in the head (institutionalized mongoloids)
I wonder if they use actual analytics and data for these balancing changes, because they seem eyeballed as fuck
>>738382316Games fun but, The Community is dog shit, and yes all of them are from the Sloptubers to the retards on every part of Social media to that dumbass buzzword for AH dickriders.And the Devs are dog shit too, but it could be so much worse honestly
>>738391671Bulletstorm sounds exactly like what you described
>>738391839Why are newfags still responding to this shitThis is footage FROM THE DEVS playing the gameBack when ACs did fuck all to bile titans
>>738391853Considering they're Swedish, it's probably a mixture of usage metrics and lurking on reddit, by people who haven't touched the game in months and/or exclusively play on the easier difficulties.
The issue is 35+ year old men who don't play the game ball washing the devs
>>738390605>Kojima never played his games either.Kojima never made good games either>Said their influence is tabletop games apparently.No wonder the game is shit, they were building off of a shitty foundation
>>738383947this is a lot funnier with context>this was before the AC did any heavy pen damage>these were the devs playing on a live stream and failing to even do just the main objective>the devs continually unloaded this teamloaded AC into a bile titan despite the spacing and constant armor deflections
>>738391304I never said they were hard, any dumbass shitter can put on a guard dog and the problem is solved instantlyI said that they make undocumented changes to existing enemies and the first reaction everyone had was "is the new armor bugged?"Isn't it sad that's the justified reputation the devs actually have?You know when no one complained? When cyborgs were added and started buffing bot speeds. Everyone understood exactly what was happening. Cyrbogs with orange lights show up, the bots red lights all glow orange and they start powerwalking.There was 0 reasonable feedback for what causes the speed buff in spore burst. Why didn't they add a special spore enemy that buffs them or something? Then there could be something we target to mitigate the problem and play smart.all you glazedivers can say is "git gud" and "you're shit" it's tiresome.
>>738392053And the loader has an EAT
>>738382316>New warbond is announced and it includes vehicles, which are the one thing that they haven't shoved into warbonds yet.>This results in a lot of grumbling over the monetisation.>People are also worried that the mechs are going to be awful due to a prior poorly thought-out update that buffed enemy durable damage to make the tank less tanky.>Lead dev does an AMA, which goes horribly as any question regarding new end-game, customisation, bugfixing, transmog, ect, was given a "it's not a priority because we're focusing on novelty".>The above basically drained all the copium reserves of people who were a bit on the fence. Also the dev calls someone a "sweet summer child".>The update with the new warbond finally drops, and it's bad. >The mech buffs not only fail to make mechs as tanky as they were before the tank update, but also includes a bunch of changes that makes every other vehicle weaker.>The new armour sets perks are basically useless unless you're using light armour.>The reintroduced spore burst bugs have a mechanic where if killed with anything other than DoT or beam weapons, they explode into a gas that buffs the movement speed of the other spore bugs by a massive amount. >Complaints or concerns about fun and balance aside, they added fast bugs while selling armour that makes you run faster, which is bad optics.>They broke the flame sentry and flamethrower mech and they can't hit anything a few metres in front of them.>Finally, they buffed the Hive Guard (a common chaff enemy) to have AP4 armour (which is the same armour on heavy enemies.)>Which again, regardless of balance concerns, was another wide-sweeping change that was incredibly poorly though-out that makes a bunch of players equipment worse and does nothing but further push the explosive meta.Personally I wouldn't call it an "overreaction". It's more just the final straw on the camels back; there is only so much of a Swedish dev studio that people can take.
>>738391558the first people are always a sweaty minority of playersand catering to those people has NEVER been the right choice in ANY game.and even then that isn't what the devs are doing they are catering to neither gamer with the changes they make.
HD is old news, make way for Far Far West
>>738386721an anon already said it but its mainly how it just made the 2 turrets that are mainly used on bugs unviable. Hive guards arent aggressive enough to warrant my attention out of the 20 or so hunters flanking or alpha commanders beelining towards me (essentially making hiveguards just a wall at the back most of the time.) so they just exist and die in half a second when you line up a shot after clearing out immediate bugs. The heavy buff just made them exist to tank minigun fire so now people are just saying fuck it and started using autocannons and rocket sentries more all because ah saw people liked using med pen on bugs
I just got back into it. It's awesome.
>>738383613ive played with /vg/ and it really is a cakewalk. difficulty comes from playing with other random shitters
>>738392386Is this actually good?
>>738391558That isn't what the devs are doing at all. They just keep nerfing any weapon that people like, making vehicles worse, buffing enemies, and making the game less fun overall.
>>738388327Tank released during cyberstan invasion and before the mech warbond which made bugs do more durability damage to compensate the mech changes
>>738382316I knew that game was going to be shit when they nurfed the quasar.
>>738382686Aren't these the devs that don't play their game on harder difficulties?
>>738382360they made D10 slightly difficult again
>>738392504god no but for some retarded reason one of the devs decided to shill his shit here
>>738392656technically it's a community manager but yes, neither of these people play the game
I'd respect the devs more if they were just honest. Just come out and say "fuck you, and fuck weapons, we don't want you to have answers on demand, we want you to struggle and run for most of the map because stratagems are the only things you can rely on to actually deal with anything reliably. The guns? They're for you. Here's a revolver, it loads one bullet, that's all you get. Now go kite enemies until your stratagem cooldown refreshes".
>>738392580WrongThe tank released pre nerfed with 3x durability damage on all enemies. You don't play the game. Fuck yourself.
>>738392732The opinions of devs who don't play their game competently at the highest levels of difficulty have no value, and it's always correct to deride, question, and belittle any decision they make pertaining to those difficulties.
>>738392504if you like borderlands gameplay and cowboy/robot/steampunk yea
The AP4 hive guards were easier to kill
It's even funny because swedes have like, 8 months off work per year or something like that, so the devs can't even claim to be working so hard they don't have time to play the game they makeThis just hate video games
>>738392830>The opinions of devs who don't play their gamedo devs actually do this
>>738392190>Also the dev calls someone a "sweet summer child".isn't this a 4chan phrase? I've never seen anyone do that outside here. Does that confirm the devs are 4channers?
>>738384254nobody on /vg/ runs meta anythingwe all bring the most useless bullshit because it's fun
>>738392937it's a shakespeare reference I think
>>738392937>>738392994It's literally a Game of Thrones reference
>>738392937i don't even know what this shit means so i have no idea why people are mad about it
>>738382686I may have to pick the game back up
>>738382316I think devs that go against what they players want should legally lose all the rights to their game. Devs are almost as bad as journalists. Worthless parasites, all of them.
>>738392791It was released pretty much as a counter to the vox spam, could tank a good amount of the cringe canons. Now it just rolls over and dies. I guess its fine because a vehicle that could take 3 vox head on would completely trivalize the others factions
>>738382360Mostly a bunch of long-standing grievances, along with a AMA that blackpilled most of the community>AMA basically says that they know that players want endgame, more progression, bugfixes, meanigful rewards for the galactic war, and the war itself to be dynamic rather than railroaded by devs>but the devs don't care for any of that and would rather shit out more battlepasses>barely working on a technical level>getting stuck in terrain or dying out of nowhere to nothing is just accepted as normal now>enemy corpses are heat seeking missiles that will defy physics to land on you to instagib you before despawning and warping back to where they died>bugs going unfixed for actual years>schizo balancing where every buff comes with its own nerf to counteract it>random thoughtless enemy changes>vehicles being sold in a battlepass when before all of them were earned for the war of added for free>devs consistently being arrogant snide cuntsRetards deserve it frankly. Hopefully Sony will put a gun against their head and force them to fix the fucking game again like they did almost two years ago.
>>738392934Most games are not gamers and think playing games is beneath them. It's just a product to be sold to cattle.
>>738392937It's a basic bitch reddit insult from a song of ice and fire.
>>738392937no it's normalfaggot shitlib smugphraseany time you've seen it on 4chan has been at least 60% to 150% ironic. it's reddit lingo of the highest caliber. >>738392994no it's popular because of Game of Thrones aka normalfag TV shows
>>738386179lol'd when i checked my hours
>>738386278>Devs want to be balancing a PVP game and not a PVE gameThey're not good at doing their jobs.
>>738392504It's like Serious Sam with objectives and cool magic spells, it's quite good. Fantastic music too, and it's actually funny, the performance is good as well.My friend group, two of which were Helldivers 2 addicts, completely dropped the game for Far Far West.
just saw a singular bilespewer fart missile destroy a freshly spawned sentry
>>738392930I experienced enough of this with the ‘Tide games.>Fartshart swedes rush a huge untested patch out the door because their government mandated 8 month vacation is coming up>Introduces a ton of game breaking bugs that won’t get fixed until they get back
>>738392934they probably play with infinite health and other goodies while debugging, eyeball changes and call it a day
>>738392504yeah
>>738386278>>738393204>only pvp needs to be balanced pve should just have an auto-win button so I can chug beer instead of playing the gameok dad
>>738392939Most of the stuff in the game is pretty strong. I guess if i took flag constitution shield gen and ap mines with base pistol and smoke grenade against bugs Id be useless. Even then i feel like 4 autists from here could clear d10 with this build
>>738392937It's mostly a passive aggressive tumblr/reddit phrase to snarkily dismiss someone for just not getting it. Think of it alongside "oh sweety/sweaty" or "oh baby girl".
>>738392689where?
>>738392934A shocking amount of devs in positions where they are responsible for sweeping balance changes either don't play the game at all, or play so poorly they never progress past playing on easy mode.
>>738392689Are you able to articulate why you do not like the video game Far Far West, Anonymous from 4chan?
>>738393379I'm reminded of that retard keyboard turning dev from WoW. Same shit
>>738393387Plays like a fag and shits all retarded
>>738393461>keyboard turningnot just that, dude was playing the game with a drawing tablet
>>738393387>Are you ableYes. Will i? No. Now fuck off with your reddit game.
>>738393502>>738393534>5 super credits have been deposited into your account
>>738393502>>738393534You lost.
>>738393379>>738393461the mentality of a gamer and a designer should be fundamentally differentit's important for a designer not to get too far into the "beat the game" mentality, otherwise they'll do bad work
>>738393303>auto-win buttonYou're bitching too hard anon.
>>738393598They should have firsthand experience with the consequences of their decisions, and enough context to make informed decisions in the first place. Looking at a spreadsheet of usage metrics isn't context.
>>738393617that's what you wantD10 was extremely easy before, now it's slightly difficult and you piss and moan
>>738393598But if they play like that cuphead journo they are incapable of doing either
>>738392504The spell combinations add a layer to the game that makes it interesting desu
>>738382686They had a meltdown over 'Get better at the game retard'? LMAO
AH "tech debt" is comical levels of badremember when this shit happened?>what if bots hanging from the drop ship could be damaged, it would be cool and realistic!>okay now the dropships are showing up empty after they clip their way through 20 giant trees on the way to the drop zone what do we do?>I fixed it guys, now the bots pop-in spawn right before dropping from the drop shipat some point they fixed this shit but it's still ridiculous to me how little they plan or test anything and how they never go back and undo something they just band-aid a new solution on top. In fact I think this hiveguard thing is probably the only thing that's ever been a straight rollback in the entire game's changelog.
>>738392590Why shouldn't a weapon that can two shot a fab and has unlimited ammo be nerfed?
Are there strategies that no one picks ever?Yes.Then the devs should be focusing on making those useful before nerfing things.
>>738393661and if you let go of your "I am entitled to win" thinking for a second then you can see that the game was more or less perfectly balanced from day one, and the crying for buffs made it unbalanced.
>>738393678no, being good at the game is almost opposite to being able to design it wellgriesemer purposefully avoided getting good at halo for this reason
To be fair if i was a game dev making a coop cock and ball torture device i wouldnt want to clear all the hell i created, this isnt fucking trackmania. Even if i made some complete bullshit unfair difficulty autists would still be able to optimize the fun out of it and easily beat it, so who gives a shit
I love the torcher but like, I have to use it for everything
>>738382686>dogshitI know who this is
>>738383958>waiting on cooldowns and running away is hardgame difficulty is meant to be a test of player skill, running to safety and calling in strats over and over does not require skill
>applying balance changes to a video game that isn't pvpshits fucked
>>738393815I'm talking about basic competence, basic brain function. You are just rattling off some spiel you had in your head
>>738393598Except the opposite is true, when a developer doesn’t understand their own game that’s how you end up with sweeping nonsensical monthly balance changes. I don’t expect them to be a god at the game but I do expect them to at least have a better fundamental grasp of it than the average retard.
>>738393901you're a retard
>>738393901It is pvp though? You're fighting against whomever writes the scripted battle
>>738392934How new does anyone have to be to not know thisYou literally never engaged with an actively balanced or live service game in your life until now?That is 100% of AAA devs and a majority of everyone else.The sole exception is Path of Exile 1 and 2 i think.
>>738393949understanding the game and being fixated on "winning" are two different things
>>738393951>>738393972i dont play helldivers i just shitpost based on the current opinions
>>738391614>redditdiversJesus Christ I hate every lame fucking meme that this godforsaken game's community has ever spawned and immediately ran into the ground
>>738393901The only thing more deadly to a game than being too hard is being too easyAnyone who says this doesn't know game design and doesn't plays games more than 2 hours a week
>>738394035>The sole exception is Path of Exile 1 and 2 i think.damn so they actually make the games like that from an informed perspective?I guess I can respect that, players of the point and click rpg genre are infamous shit-eaters and crayon munchers.
>>738394069Sure. Arrowhead devs are neither.
>Civilians cry the game too hard>Game backrolled, easy again>Civilians STILL cry about the devsHonestly its all just self-humiliation ritual. They just like to cry. Fucking babies.
>>738382686NEEEENOOOO NEEEENOOOO BASED ALERT BASED ALERT
>>738382316Both.They have a point (AH is retarded and lazy). But also... They are overreacting. I'm not great at the game, but i'm chilling on D10. Haven't played a lower difficulty since forever. The game is very good and very fun, but it's saturated with small problems that start to add up the longer I play it.
>>738393901this, the game has harsher balancing than some esports games its so fucking retarded
It's time to move on.
>>738393669>that's what you wantNo.
>>738382316Why should I care? I just play the game to have fun and ignore whatever dogshit the Fanbase is crying about. Both Sides are fucking shit in all honesty, and one YT search is all I need to see how dog shit it is, and just ignore it
>>738394327it was never that hard
>>738394453then why do you shit yourself anytime a weapon can't oneshot titans?
>>738394085That's 80% of helldivers posters so you'll fit right in
>>738383613D10 is really REALLY fucking easy.They buffed bugs durable damage and shitters literally lost their minds. This is the same faction in which literally one fucking tank could last for the entire mission with no issue while one tapping an unlimited number of dragon roaches. Anytime they buff any faction to make it more stimulating shitters, faggots, women, and Chinese drag the score down.
>>738393815Halo was never good
>>738382316>execute unpopular decisions>gets negative reviewGame developers are such pussiesIn other industries you'd get fired, your company gets fined, lost sales or goes bankrupt
>>738394468and it still isnt but every buff gets a counter buff to the enemies which is just insane for a pve gamethis isnt a 5v5 competitive pvp game where every change could have massive outcomes on the players/ metaits a fucking horde shooter
>>738393889possessing the knowledge and decision making under pressure necessary to make the decision to "run to safety and call in strats" is part of skill
>>738394171So true xister
>>738394675uhm ackshually it's a grunt fantasy shooter, mmk?
>>738394035Sorry, I play games with sovl.
>>738394594i liked Reach, the scarab missions in halo 3 also. That's about it
>>738394675lower the difficulty
>>738394547I'm not that person who hates difficultly levels at all. Also, I prefer the flamer and heavy machine gun than those one shot weapons. The reload shit takes too much fucking time.
>>738383984Fatshark style balancing, I see
>>738394129>>738394069>>738394171who is fixated on winning? It's not like winning is hard. You can win with 0 lives easy. Extraction isn't even the win state. People just want the game not to be an unfun chore. People want to not waste 40 minutes of their miserable day watching every piece of gear get powercrept every update by both new gear or enemy changes.It's cool 4chan is so full of you tryhards that only dive d10 and never broken a sweat in your life, it's totally verifiable and not all just posturing. Whether you're lying or not about being so good and undefeated at the game, I'm glad you guys speak for the entire community and what everyone should find acceptable. I'm glad you guys can find time from your rigorous training for the next BME Pain Olympics to slum it in our shitty pve game.
BUFF HMG AND MMG
>>738394889It's their only response to all criticism, notice how this entire thread they ignored all points and just say the same shit over and over. I better hope they get paid for this
>>738394681yeah, one you learn at like 6 at the latestdon't misunderstand, I think 10 should be really fucking hard, but it should be hard in a way that actually makes the player think, not just "haha 100 big guys"
war striders and vox engines are so unbelievably player antagonistic in their design I refuse to believe they were even made by the same people who did the launch automaton roster, quite fucking literally the crux of the issue is that AH gets pissy people can clear d10 by playing well so they just do superheavy spam whenever possible because the only way you die in this game is by being an abject retard, enemy corpses torpedoing you, or getting blown to shit by the obligatory ASSFUCKERWORLDENDER enemy that gets spawned in groups of a dozen on D10
>>738394975You're talking to the /hdg/ thread schizo, he's come here for his fix of attention and (You)sDon't waste your time on him. He's exclusively arguing in bad faith, trolling and shitposting just that sweet sweet shot of attention."Lower the difficulty" or "LTD" is his deranged calling card, you can throw the opinion of anyone who uses that phrase into the trash.
>>738394140Are you actually mad at being called out for not being one of those cool gamer guys?This is an 18+ website please leave>>738394779Just sounds like you don't play games that much
>>738394956Sort of. Main difference is that Fatshark is REALLY scared of nerfing weapons after they saw what happened to Helldivers 2 early on. So instead they made havoc as a containment board for try hards. But this creates a whole new set of problems, one of which is power creep.
>>738394468"harsh balancing" and "game difficulty" are not directly proportional or inherently relatedRemember when for months handguns and SMG reticles swayed around like retards any time you came out of moving? The lightest most easily controlled firearms have control issues? Why didn't they just do what literally every other shooting game does and make them weaker and have faster damage falloff at range? Oh wait, they eventually walked that other change back and did that?This is exactly what we are talking about.They don't make intelligent or informed decisions around balancing the game reasonably, they don't even do it in realistic ways despite constantly using "realism" as their justification. When they make changes they just put on a blindfold and throw darts at the wall, there's only been like 2 or 3 patches where they actually put on their thinking caps and thought about what would make the game better or worse to play.
>>738393901that's where you are wrong anon, it is a pvp game it's normal people vs arrowhead retardation vs sony
>>738395167no i'm an unrelated third party, I know plenty about devs not playing their live service game being shit.I'm just surprised POE devs are being held as a gold standard for "they play their game" when they literally develop one of their worst games in their own genre.
>>738382316I don't know why it's so difficult for them>make 4 tiers of armor>make 4 tiers of armor penetration>if an enemy has a higher armor than your weapon's AP, you can either switch to a higher AP weapon or shoot at progressively smaller weak points to still deal normal damagethis was a problem AT LAUNCH where chargers had a fleshy glowing spot that took LESS damage than the rest of its armored body and bile titans were literally just immune to anything below the railgunwe're not asking for the liberator to become an HMG, we're asking for our last resort weapon to actually BE a last resort, rather than a literal paperweight
>>738382496/v/ is full of contrarian fags who are going to glaze shitty swedish devs because shitting on them is le popular right now.
>>738395164so it's like a specific guy, I noticed this shit in hdg last week, never really go there.
>>738395520it was never a problem
>>738394975You civilians cryed and got what you wanted, easier game, and look at you. Still crying here. Most divers like me who actually want challenge have reason to complain; but i have to watch you. You crying. You got your easy win game with your tantrum out of the devs. Why are you still here? Go play your same meta loadout your favorite streamer made for you and play it another hundred hours.
>>738382686This is the only acceptable way to talk to Helldivers players
>>738395716>Civilians>Divers like meLolcow material
>>738384689>overtunedThere's nothing in Helldivers 2 that's 'overtuned.'There's just the dogshit, and the few weapons that come out in the latest warbond that are decent until they're nerfed into the ground to prepare everyone for the next warbond.
>>738395007this, i love my hmg
>>738395683MIght be a guy with multiple phones for samefagging, might be som shithead with his discord raiders, but he becomes extremly easy to notice and makes discussing the game while he's around all but impossible
>>738395796Cry more little civvie and stick to D5 where you belong.
>>738385432Yeah, this. Explosive meta is still extremely overtuned. They released a missile pistol in the latest warbond and it's best usecase is against gunships. What slays gunships even more efficiently? The Loyalist. A year and a half old plasma sidearm.
>>738389724What is there fucking problem? Seriously. Are they scared people will stop playing and paying if they win too much? I stopped playing, but thats just because I got bored, Im not even good at the game, and lose on the second highest difficulty all the time. The difficulty never was never why I played or stopped playing. Besides don't they have a good dedicated playerbase that was slowly growing in the last year or so? Why are they making drastic changes
>>738382686Good. I'm sick of the idea that if enough retarded goymers bitch and moan at the same time that means they are right.I'm sorry but this game was never meant to be a HECKIN DOOMGUY power fantasy slop that lets you stomp the highest difficulty playing solo.
>>738384689The devs don't play above difficulty 3 and nerf or buff shit based on insane justifications. The breaker was a shitty primary at release but they nerfed it anyway because it was popular. Now there's a dozen far better weapons and nobody has touched the breaker in years.
Made an enemy less of a nuisance.>increased armor on the giant armor plate>reduced armor everywhere else, including the legs you can hit from the front, and also reduced the health>end result: hive guards are now much easier to kill>players piss and shit themselves crying that the game is unplayable how dare they buff hive guards so muchThe devs first mistake they made near launch was listening to player feedback instead of following their creative vision. Doing that made players feel entitled and now if the players DEMAND something and dont get it their way a review bomb comes flying in. Thats why helldivers has had so many.
>>738387559People don't want it to be easy. They want the devs to stop balancing it around D5 and messing with the gameplay mechanics for no fucking reason at all.
I don't care about the difficulty settings, just add mechanics to enforce coop gameplay like punished lone wolfing.
>>738389724>The flamethrower on the mech uses stats for the crisper sidearmWhy are they like this
>>738396271alexus will always be peak retard
>>738396305They do want it to be easy though. >NOOOOOOO I CANT SOLO D10 ANYMORE WITHOUT DYING DEVS RUINED HELLDIVERS!!
>>738396278The review bombers this time are the minority. When the event that inspired pic related was happening over half the player base was saying nasty shit about the game and quitting for two weeks. I quit for a whole month when Escalation of Freedom rolled out.
>>738396271desu arc thrower niggas are fucked in the headthere are very few weapons in all video games as unsatisfying to use as the arc thrower
>>738396470they need to add a separate difficulty switch for weapon damage and enemy armorthat way dads can have their instagib and everyone else can have a balanced game
>>738396470People are mad at broken bugs and gameplay mechanics which aren't the same thing as difficulty. This is the developer that made it so fire couldn't pass through a chainlink fence with a patch.
>>738396278the problem is the change was completely arbitrary, didn't improve or change the way anyone fought this bug, and "indirectly" nerfs stratagems onlybugs are a faction with only 2 medium enemies and 4 heavy enemies so why make one of them heavy in the first place?
>>738396489>game goes from mostly positive reviews to mostly negative in the span of about a week>must be a loud minoritythe level of cognitive dissonance swigger defenders operate on is something else
>>738396470Sadly you can never prove your point because it's grossly incorrect.
>>738396620>>game goes from mostly positive reviews to mostly negative in the span of about a weekIt does this every patch though. It will go right back to mostly positive when the devs make the game easy again
>>738396596hive guards entire gimmick is being impenetrable from the front when they crouch upthe fact it took them this long to put the enemy back to what it should have been from the start is what's retarded
>>738396570>yfw rtcw has still the best looking flamethrower
>>738396362Fun fact: The mech's crisper doesn't work within 2 meters of the mech.
>>738382453That is not even remotely accurate. Me and my friends played 10 and it’s abundantly clear Arrowhead doesn’t test that difficulty and aren’t even capable of playing it themselves. If they want the game to center around 7, cap the difficulty at 7 and find other ways for players to take on additional challenge for rewards. That might also address their absolute refusals to implement any meaningful progression.
>>738396686why must you shovel lies on top your mental illness?
>>738396701how does swedish cum taste?
>>738396431>can shoot doors off of shipping containers with a fucking laserGoddamn swigger retards.
>>738396756how does not being able to aim at weak spots taste?
>>738396756Like mashed potatoes from IKEA.
>>738383283>play d10>this is too hard there are too many enemiesso turn down the difficulty retard
>>738396620>the silent majority does not existNice try.
>>738396686They didn't make the game hard. They just made vehicles shit for no reason. Also the Gator gets obliterated in no time.
>>738382453Sweden cant properly do difficult into their game.they either go overboard with heavy spam or ragdoll into one shot true combo sometimes both at the same time and add on top of that the glitches still present 2 years after release, galactic war really fucking stale where your choices dont even have an impact, dont fukcing act like this is just redditor seethe because they increased the armour values of the hive guard nigger
For the people that still play the game.Have the devs ever added mechanics to punish lone wolfing and enforce coop? Have they done anything about the constant shift+w running shit?I honestly don't give a fuck about the difficulty shit,
>>738396903Yeah it exists, and it just took the reviews from 78% positive to 39% positiveYou swigger simps are high on the good copium
>>738396701if you weren't some retard noob bringing trash like liberator penetrator, then it DID in fact, do its job of blocking small arms fire. It's a bug that's there to provide pressure, it compliments the hunters and scavs that flank you by being a lower priority target that slowly stalks up to you. It's already doing what it needs to.so why is it "what it should have been" in the adjusted state we had for a week, that it was even easier to kill from the front by simply aiming a little lower?
>>738397021nope, the game is still designed around 1-screen coop. literally enemies only spawn on host.
>>738397018seia sex
>>738397021No, and they shouldnt. If I want to play a solo playstyle, there should not be a built in mechanic to punish me for playing how I want.
>>738396998A vehicle is for transporting where I need to be fast or offering extra firepower while someone protects the vehicle from the chaff enemies. They are not "I have armor therefore half the roster of enemies become irrelevant while I run them over with threads or stompy feet."
>>738397076when they're not crouched there's weak spots, when they do crouch it's a solid wallif you catch them off guard that's intended part of their design.
>>738382686This and beating / hanging helldiver devs in the street is the only acceptable way of communication with them.
>>738397123You're a fucking retard and completely missed half the post because of that retardation.
>>738397047>writes a review and posts it publicly online>part of the silent majority Wow, so silent. I meant the player numbers aren't declining off a cliff. But you would be posting Steam Charts if they were. Why aren't you?
>>738397021no everyone either has a group of GOATs that makes every game easy or they settle on whatever difficulty they don't mind soloing while some other retard dies 3 times on a spot with no objectives or goals or anything instead of moving.and honestly, this is what the game should be like.
>>738397201If your teammates aren't shooting enemies crowding your vehicle they suck and you suck for not calling them out.
>>738397338t.doesn't play hive worlds
>>738397181they pretty much never do that shit, they just keep shambling any time I ever see them There's never a time I turn to face them and they're already doing it, so there's never a time when I can't just turn to them and shoot them before.
>>738397378t.refuses to follow one teammate around the whole mission and wonders why he can't handle anything by himself
>>738397018The reviews are all complaining about balance, nobody really gives a shit about the game being broken anymore
>>738397104Looks like this gamer needs to git gud and not rely on lonewolf spawn splitting.
>>738397021>punish lone wolfing and enforce coopno>shift+w running shitgear is good enough now that you can actually fight enemies on the highest difficulty instead of rundiving>>738397234you mean these steam charts? they game peaked at 86k when the warbond dropped and is already down to about 42k about a weekLiterally half the population is gone again, and we're very fair away from the huge 170k peak the game had at cyberstanbut surely you will find a cope for this too. After all our glorious swigger overlords can do no wrong
>>738397463t.not beating the doesn't play the game allegations
>>738397509>big events and content releases have spikeswow such insightbut look how there's no real dip in the overall trendnobody cares except you
>>738397649smoke more copium retard
>>738383474anon, I don't give a fuckHaving 100 enemies on screen and each needing an entire mag is boring as fuck
>>738385558I accept your concession
>>738396771>swiggerHe's a ukrainian tranny
>>738397509It doesn't matter that you "can fight enemies" when kiting and running is still the objectively best way to play the game and got a huge buff with the new armours.There is 0 incentive nor reason to stick together as a fireteam or tackle breaches or stop and engage in fights with the enemies. You actively get punished for doing that still. Nobody is saying it's impossible to do that - there's just no reason to.
>>738398002He's also not in charge of shit, the fucking swedes make the final decisions on everything.
>>738383514TRVKE
>>738398009>it doesn't matter that you can't have fun when playing like a fucking retard is the best way to be a mongoloidYou should kill yourself NOW
>>738398009have you considered not being a meta slave?
>don't like the explosive meta? don't nerf just don't use it!>NOOO I HAVE TO USE THE RUN METAyou just want the game to be easier
learn to concentrate firepower
>>738383613It depends on the faction too. Illuminate on 10 are piss easy. Bots on 10 are a good challenge. Bugs on 10 suck cocks for days.
>>738382686Toopop is a faggot gamer dad but anyone who actually plays the game knows that D10 isn't fun even when you are good and the devs are full of shit.
>>738397463>>738397123let's strap on our thinking caps for a minute. Scavengers are like the size of a small medium dog, like a scottie or a bulldog or something... but hey we'll even give an upgrade and name a bigger dog.Imagine you're crawling a toyota camry down the street at 10 mph, hell maybe you are even standing still. 30 labrador retrievers decide you must die and chase your camry. They jump at the camry, swing their paws at it, climb on top of it, know on the corners.I think most people would be able to reasonably see that even in this toyota camry you would be safe. Maybe they scratch up the pain a bit, chew off a corner of the body. Oh but scavs have razor sharp knives on their limbs right?Okay lets gives all those dogs knives. They get some puncture holes in the body I guess, maybe they even get lucky and pop a tire. Never once would I be in fear that they would actually get into the vehicle.and that's a fucking mid sized family sedan.So what business does a Scavenger have chewing an actual fucking tank or the heavy duty gator to bits? I don't think anyone has any problem with a Warrior or anything larger doing reasonable damage to a heavy vehicle, but something like this absolutely didn't earn any sort of durable damage buffs it received.
>>738398009>and got a huge buff with the new armours.lol imagine believing this when Oxygenated Light is barely 5% faster and the med/heavy are just worst versions of light extra padding and medium extra padding.
>>738383613The game is piss easy except there are constant buggy interactions that will kill you in a frustrating manner. Not enough to ever fail a mission, but enough to irritate you every single mission.
>>738398179Just lower the difficulty faggot
they should make it like l4d finale's where you can't respawn once extraction has been called in
