>new addition to a beloved series mostly played by people fighting the CPUs>entire game is balanced around PvP and created around PvP... something only like 0.1% of players did
>>738387509Gotta get on the e-sports bandwagon brah
how is this PVP? Multiplayer matches in HoMM3 took hours and hours
>>738387509cause those 001% make everyone else watch and care and help to sell games to the masses
What does "balanced" around PvP mean exactly? Because I haven't even touched multiplayer and have been playing the game all the time those past few days.
>>738387509Still trying that canard, OP? You abandonned your other bullshit much faster
>>738387509Sounds good, probably means that single player is more fun since you have to try rather than just auto winning with some broken combination.
>>738387509looks fucking gay
>>738387509>early accessCant wait to play it in 5 to 10 years when they have an actual finished singleplayer campaign
>>738388985Not sure this is the case.There are almost no single-player-only maps, campaign is also meh.I hope it will get some major patches soon.
>>738389136It comes out in a year or so. I mean the game is pretty much complete, they just need to add more scenarios and campaigns. I don't see how could this take longer than that.
Can someone recommend a Schism hero to get a feel for the faction? What units in general should I focus on?
this shit is the most barebones early access slop if it werent for retards salivating over the brand of the name it would be generic indie game #5002 and forgotten in a day go buy a funko pop you fucking faggot
>>738387509so hows the game if I only care for campaign and pve skirmish?
I see a lot of negative people about this game but I'm enjoying it
>>738389387hey schizo. Still mad people are fun playing the game while you seethe?
>>738387509>pvpWhat ...
>>738389469>if I only care for campaign and pve skirmish?The campaign is very incomplete, and there are only a handful of scenarios.It's very fun in terms of the mechanics, so if you're fine with mostly just playing randomly generated maps from templates, then go for it. If not, wait.
>>738389338Just try playing them all, they don't have a hero with free T6 or T5 stack/spec so you can't cheese early game with that.So it really depends, are you going to play vs AI only?
>>738389338Mastatla the white and hellghast are my favorite. Sister Deidre or whatever was busyed, not sure if they changed her yet. Units wise, they are the 1/2nd best ranged faction. Ra shoth are functionnal t1'sCultist are pretty good due to long range, limits attrtion.Agashot are middling, nothing specialGrand shot are glass cannon, building is expensive and numbers are low, so need to be carefulConcubus are a solid range unit with a bit of utilityArbitrator are likely the best T6 and archer period. Not as good as archangel statwise but bigger number and paradoxical is amazingT7 are solid tanky melee with surprising speed and a few nasty ability. Nagic damage immunity protect them from guillotine also Laws are also very good, and communion is excellent if you keep it maxed
>>738388824Probably means you can't pull bullshit builds and strategies against the computer like before
>>738389805Yeah I'm not into PvP. What I find strange is that many Might heroes have caste specialties (sorcery, focus on magic) while Magic heroes have things like offense>>738390049Thanks, that's helpful. I can see Agashot if you wanna blast enemies with Wal'Kha or Blackhorn maybe?
>>738389805>>738389338Shit I just noticed Iron Master starts with Concubus, that's quite good, sadly he is a might hero.Magic heroes are overall stronger imo.
>>738390303>Magic heroes are overall stronger imo.I'm not so sure about that desu. There are a lot of good, effective spells that don't really require a lot of spellpower, while your troops always benefit from the higher attack and defense. Plus I really like the unit specialized heroes this time around.
>>738389136>>738387509This game intrigues me but kind of look like mobile jank. What's the best in the series? A trpg kingdom manager that is also a adventure sounds cool.
>>738390480You really need a large mana pool to cast all those global spells.Even before that casting 2 spells a turn is mana intensive.Avatar is the goat for early game, you get army scaling from battle magic.Stacking luck and morale is super strong tho.
>tfw want to play but my computer has recently entered an era of heightened BSOD activityThis shit sucks major ass, I open the game and at most within an hour it crashes.
You've complete all the challenges already, right?
>>738390960I haven't touched the tutorial and I'm nearly 50h into this game.Are they fun?
>>738390862Fix your PC bro. How can you even function with random crashes like that?
>>738387509most people who played homm3 all those years did it for pvpthats why we have the single hero format right now, its extremely friendly for everyone
>>738388253the mode most people are playing on pvp is called single heroThere are several template maps that get randomized but basically they boil down to 1 starting area for each player and then an area in the middle richer in treausres but harder enemiesYou can only have 1 hero (hence the name).At some points in time (dates fixed depending on the map) there is a virtual 1v1 battle between the heroes.First player to win 2 of those battles win the game.
>>738391048A couple, challenges are the extension of the tutorial. Most are just mechanic introductions, but couple have neat tricks to teach. I'd say 50 h in is a good time to check them, they might show you what sort of important game element you've been overlooking this whole time. They are very short overall 3-10 min
>>738390862clean up your mess of a PC , when i had constant crashes in everything it was my motherboard dying , look into it , friendly hint.
>>738387509>no p2w>no gachaNo buy.
>>738391103>>738391367No shit, I keep doing stress tests and other stuff to find which component might be the issue but no luck in certainity so far. I'd say it's either CPU, mobo or RAM.It only happens when I am running something relatively demanding like this game, it doesn't happen in every day use like browsing and such, or playing games that have light resource usage.
>>738391536If you can reliably cause crashes with running demanding software try improving the airflow over your RAM.If you have XMP enabled even slight ambient temperature increase can cause instability.RAM temps around 60°C can already cause that.
>shizo-posting stops>thread diesHe is the true Hero of might and magic.
I really like the game and will keep playing it, but posting about it not very fun.
>>738394105There is not enough meme potential with this one.
>>738388998Mandalore is definitely straight! Sseth on the other hand...
>>738387509>ai slop art>ai slop programming>ai slop marketingYup, it's a shilled game
>>738389279It's laughable there is still no campaign for how it looks and how long they are shilling it.
>pvpIf i had to bet the faction with most ranged units and ranged focused heroes win everything.
>>738387509what the fuck are you talking about?Its early access so all we got is a proof of concept gameplay loop. Its obvious the campaign takes waaaay more time and you cant do it without the solid core of the gameplay.Fucking /v/, never change
>>738387509> no inferno> no strongholdyeah suck a fucking cockim not playing a heroes game without behemoths, automaticly meaning homm4 is better than homm 5
I'll be buying it. If it's balanced for pvp then pve should also be fine, even if I won't play pvp.
>>738397029There is Inferno though, they are just all sexy insects! What's not to like?
Does it have a campaign?
>>738391279That sounds dreadful.
>>738387509What does it even mean for a game to be balanced for PvP exclusively? I bet you want to use overpowered skills in PvE but never be on the receiving end of them, because you are used to the AI from previous titles not being smart enough to take the advantage when it could. When CPU will slap your ass by abusing some stupid mechanic you'll be the first to cry: 'shit game, the difficulty level is too strong'.
>>738397395It's actually best way to play, if you want to be competitive. Good tempo, comparatively low time commitment, proper test for strategy and game knowledge.
>>738397583>What does it even mean for a game to be balanced for PvP exclusively?I'll give you an example. In original Heroes 3 when you defeat enemy heroes there's a chance they'll show up in your tavern next week. This is fun.In HOTA this feature was removed because fun = overpowered so it's impossible for defeated hero to show up in a tavern unless it is literally the last hero possible in the tavern. If you find something fun in olden era DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE share it with others online or your fun will be corrected in the upcoming patch which you cannot opt out of.And that's what balancing for pvpfags is like.
>>7383973101st act, 7 missions, ~35h to complete, + 5h to do missions on alt path
>>738397901>This is funNo, this is broken, and it was a good call it was removed. If you are given an easy win condition for free it's not fun, you get fun when a game challenges you a little bit, but not hard enough for you to quit, just enough for you to be able to overcome it. When you win in such conditions you had fun because you know you've earned it.
>>738389338I liked the ice queen. She starts with ice bolt and her unique skill is basically tazar.
>>738397901>when you defeat enemy heroes there's a chance they'll show up in your tavern next week. This is fun.Not really. It's also super dumb, making heroes feel like mercenaries.
I don't like the schizo faction at all, it's totally screams DONUT STEEL OC and all the units look the same.
>>738398363Yeah, I played it twice in the demo. It feels strong, but something about it just doesn't click for me. Not a fan of the summon gimmick either.
I'm waiting for the mod to change the music because it's so generic.
>>738398363I like the faction a lot. It's a leveled take on cthulhu stuff and plays great. All the units are distinct, plus the main mechanic is very much my style. They can improve castle visuals and music more tho, a bit to understated.
>>738398363Both hive and schism suffer from that.
>>738391536>I keep doing stress tests>I'd say it's either CPU, mobo or RAM.Run MemTest?
Hive Pride World Wide
>>738391536>running something relatively demanding like this gameBuddy my fucking 10 year old laptop runs this shit.
>>738389387true. if it would not parasite off of the franchise it would be doa like the dev's last title. they have to send their artists to a boot camp or something; this just ain't it
>>738387509play the old one for pve and the new one for pvp bitch retard
>>738395989>one talks about HOMM games in videos for years>the other works on HOMO directly and it's a smash hit that'll probably sell a million before the end of the monthThis is the result of years of planning between them
>>738398590It's composed by the same guy who did the music for all the other titles.
>>738401617>not dungeonNGMIFrog spam is scarily more effective than you would think. Reach attacks feel so fucking natural. >>738402704I fucking KNEEL to BIG HOMO
>>738389387It's better than any of the previous games by ubisoft. It's also noticeably better than 90% of EA games.You're talking shit.
>>738402859A man cannot step into the same river twice.Main menu theme is alright but battle music and town music ain't it. Not a single track that comes even close to this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7PddNlM8kY
>>738403451>A man cannot step into the same river twice.He did every game from HoMM I - HoMM VII
I don't like the design of most factions.Dungeon are my boys.Temple looks but they're boring.Everything else looks like shit I'd never play with.Will there be any extra factions on launch?
>>738403451>Main menu theme is alrightfunny enough, it's a remix (worse imo) of the haven theme from homm 5. which was a goated track, loved it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrp1hEtU0ys
>>738387509>inferno is dogshit yet again
>>738404057literal skill issue
>>738403793homm5 is the best homm ever made
Exodus is the best game mode, although not perfect. Classic honestly sucks ass, always has.
>>738404057If they won't get some early game buffs soon I will be surprised.
>>738404198SEEEEEXXXX
>Too slow to hit anything>To strong to be targeted>No ranged abilities>To armoured to be fapablethe most pointless bitch in the game
>>738404392The flail doubles as a buttplug
>>738404392The ebony queen though
>>738404146something i really liked in 5 was the way each race was unique in the way they creeped. it wasn't all just block your ranged units off with 1 stacks and shoot. there were some cool tricks you had to abuse with each one.
>>738404865homm5 combat tiles were squares, stop this delusional glazing
look it is mandatory AI SLOPPEN ERA THREAD WOWWWW how convinient they pop up moment previous one dies WOOOW how organic WOWZIES
>>738404198Tournament mode should be a separate thing because no one wants to play anything else.But there should be more maps and neutral enemy encounters should get slightly more difficult by default.Unless the intention is to Auto-resolve everything without taking any losses as it is right now with many factions.
>>738404865>it wasn't all just block your ranged units off with 1 stacks and shootEvery faction and playstyle feels the same because of this shit.
>>738404198No it's not, there's way too many town, neutral camps are way too easy.On day one you already clear most of the map easily.And worst of all is that all these maps pretty much plays the same every single match, making the game turn into a solved game instead of having to adapt
They should add in a possibility for neutral stacks to have hero like commanders.
>>738405012>homm5 combat tiles were squares, stop this delusional glazinghuh? that has nothing to do with what i said.>>738405484>Every faction and playstyle feels the same because of this shit.for 5? nah, it wasn't like that.
>>738401953That's why I said relatively, I am above recommended specs (ryzen 5 5600, 64 gb ram, rtx 3070), but something in this game and couple others causes my pc to shit itself, all of these game being fairly new.>>738401321I did, told me there was 0 errors, but one of the 4 occupied slots was marked as "SPD not detected", so I am gonna try moving the sticks around and see if it'S in the stick or the slot.
>>738406968update drivers?
>>738392000Forgot to say, the most I could do for that is clean the dust at least a little from the fans and heatsinks, but even that didn't help.>>738407043First thing I did when it started.
>can't troubleshoot in the age of LLMsgrim
>>738407143Are you some league/valorant playing faggot who runs kernel anticheats and messes with their bios?
>>738407143Does your RAM even have temperature sensors?You can try disabling XMP for now this should lower the voltage needed so temperature should get lowered as well. Obviously this will also make the performance worse.Sometimes you will only need to set front intake fans to higher RPM.The easiest way to check if this is the case is to run Furmark and memtest 5 extreme at the same time. This will heat up the interior of your case nicely.
>>738407197LLM are dogshit at troubleshooting, you clearly never tried to yourself.
>>738407590what a fucking retard :DD
>>738403793>Unique battle themes for each faction.Love it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwE6xtzzQZw
>>738391279>single heroLmfao so dumbed down casual shit for retards
>1 week after release>still no crack
>>738407729Maybe homm 5 really gets more hate than it deserved
>>738391279Why do I care what most people are playing?
>>738407927Learn russian, pleb.
>>738407927W00t?
>>738407927It seems to get frequent updates so pirating might get painful unless you don't careAlso it's been available for download since day 1>no crackit's using steamworks lol
>>738408317There isnt a single fucking soul that liked multiple heroes gameplay in any homm game and yet you still get the option to play it with your 5 fellow schizophrenics.
>>738405649You realize you did not attack the format, but the poopy map generation instead? The same could be said from any other map layout in the pool.
I've played 50 hours and it finally hit me there's no waterI want water
>>738408926I don't miss ships, but I miss underground areas.
>refuse to add caravans or any kind of QoL to not make the game into a chore because "it's skillful and it was like that in HoMM3 xDD">everyone and their mothers, even the biggest PvP players and top players just play single hero mode because they don't want to deal with that obnoxious shitAre the devs just retarded?
>>738408519Pretty sure its the other way around and only retards and beginners who cant handle multitasking in a turn based game preferred single hero mode back in the day.I have never and will never play single hero, sounds gay.
>>738409070be honest do you even play the gameif so have you figured out neutral spells yet
>play arena>pick hive>get expert bug eggs>pick only hive units>artifacts or spells? who cares>poop stacks of 400 bugs every single turn>win
Is dungeon the most op faction AGAIN?
>>738388824>What does "balanced" around PvP mean exactly?Many skills and magic cancel each other out.For ex. you have Battlecraft skill which can give you +10% melee damage and the enemy -10% melee damage; if you both have it it cancels out. Magic skills can give you +1 level magic and -1 level magic to the enemy, again cancelling each out.Most of those are subskills but it fucking sucks that you fight a strong enemy and suddenly you have to deal with so many debuffs that it's as if your hero was ten levels weaker.Also magic schools don't automatically give you super strong magic, spells are individually leveled up. The magic school skills replace Wisdom (basic), give you +1 spell level (Advanced), and allow you to auto learn everything unlocked without visiting the mage guilds (Expert). Then you can use subskills for either another +1 spell level, for enemy -1 spell level, or -10% atk/def, or +6 spell power etc.For spells you can buy them individually and level them up once individually, and maybe artifacts also help I forgot. Spells can have 4 levels max. There's a 5th level, Masterful, but you can't learn that, you can only activate it from spell scroll artifacts. For ex. to cast Haste on every enemy you require a masterful haste scroll.So basically you just can't max out your skills no matter what since 4 subskills are always optional, and your opponent has shedloads of debuffs too.
>>738403451I really like this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDXDOVcdICAsome tracks are solid, the town ones especially, but yeah, I feel like a lot of the misc music is pretty forgettable. Battles included.
Which HOMM has the best waifus, both units and heroes?And which is your favorite?For me it's raven from homm V
>>738405012squares was good, I liked big creatures, having two stack of Ancient Treants digging in and protecting a stack Arcane Archers was great if they had no magic.
Is there a game mode which plays like classic custom games? The classic mode they offer doesn't allow hiring any heroes and there is no option to disable this?
>>738410670Bro have you tried building a tavern?
>>738409478I agree that usually cancelling out skills are lame but what does it have to do with PvP? You could have exactly the same situation while playing against CPU. It's a matter of a bad dev decision, not PvP or PvE per se.
Can anyone link me a video of a player beating Hard or Unfair AI on a tournament map? Is it even possible?
>>738410279Bros before hoes. That's why you always go with Necropolis.
>>738390621HoMM 3.Do NOT buy the Steam Homm3 HD edition, it doesn't have the 2 expansions.The complete edition goes on sale on GOG every couple of months and costs like 3 bucks. I think you can also get it on Ubisoft store.Obviously, pirating is the chad move.There's also a fanmade HD mod that adds some QoL and support for higher resolutions.
>>738412116https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEjTJIWF4vkthis one i guess? doesn't seem very hard unless the ai was shitting itself this particular game or something.
>>738413410Unfair quick start still uses Normal AI difficulty.I meant Hard or Unfair AI with 100% neutral camp and economy scaling.
>>738413709what map and against what race specifically? i'll try some games later.
>>738414141Pick whatever race/faction you want.I asked about single hero tournament maps, so exodus, sprint and massacre.
Poles will never be human.
>>738414752why distinguish between slavs, they're all the same
>>738387509>the entirety of the Balkans did not in fact play this in multiplayer, religiously for decades.peak zoomer take
>>738397901I only played it while it was free. I liked that some of the artifact sets had some truly busted bonuses. Did they remove those?
hive: 1 shooternecro: 2 shooters (one is skeletons)dungeon: 2 shootersschism: 3 shooterstemple: 3 shootersgrove: 3 shootersdid they go too hard into shooter meta? in old games it was typical to only have 1 shooter, with 2 meaning your faction could build around it, and 3 being rare and faction defining.
>>738415401>hive: 1 shooteran absolute noob trap, the melee upgrade is much better
>>738414947There was no steamchart for heroes 3 so braindead people on /v/ dont know what games are played
>>738411437PVP design means balancing the game so neither side can gain an overwhelming, insurmountable advantage. So you can get 2 god tier heroes and neither would be at a serious advantage. This is Olden Era.PVE design wants to make you more powerful so you can obliterate the enemy and feel invincible, since you are only fighting the computer it won't feel crap about getting beaten with no chance of retaliation. This is Heroes 3.
>>738415518Nah, the attack bonus and AoE on the ranged version is just too good to pass up on. Melee version's only adventage is its skill, and you might as well just have a 1 unit stack to use it.
>>738415401Yup, they fucked up.I don't like how it works both ways because you don't want to fight early neutral camps with shooters because you rely on not losing your own shooting units early on.Faun are the biggest fuck you unit because those faggots have parry so even if you manage to close the distance you have to bait their counter attacks somehow.
>>738415793>he doesn't know how to play hiveyou'll probably tell me it's a bad faction next
>>738412908>Obviously, pirating is the chad move.Chad move is playing the original CDs you bought 25+ years ago.
>>738415831So go on, how is an objectively fantastic unit a "noob trap"?
>>738415793He clearly doesn't know you can target any hex with those bad-boys like you would with a fire ball.
>>738415848Yes tell a guy whos new to the series and wants to try it to get a CD from 25 years ago.
>>738415401>>738415401More than half the factions in HoMM3 had only one shooter. 4 factions had 1 shooter, 4 had 2 and only Tower had 3. I'm also pretty sure that grove has only 2 shooters.
>>738415401>grove: 3 shootershuh
>>738416559>>738415401>castle2 shooters>rampart1 shooter>tower3 shooters (albeit 2 only after upgrades)>inferno1 shooter>necropolis1 shooter>dungeon 2 shooters>stronghold2 shooters>fortress 1 shooter>conflux2 shootersAn average of 1,(6) shooters per faction.HoMM4>life3 shooters>ordertechnically 2 shooters, but also 2 more magic users who can use one target damaging spells>death 1 shooter>chaos2 shooters>nature1 shooter in the basic lineup, 3 more and 1 damaging spellcaster in the creature portal>might 2 shootersAn average of 1,8(3) shooters per faction, not counting creature portal and spellcasters.HoMM 5>Academy3 shooters>Dungeon2 shooters>Haven2 shooters>Inferno1 shooter>Necropolis2 shooters>Sylvan2 shooters>Fortress2 shooters>Stronghold3 shooters (with the right upgrades)An average of 2,125 shooters per faction.Olden Era has an average of 2,1(6). Only slightly higher than 5, but still, it's the highest average of those games.
>>738415783>PVP design means balancing the game so neither side can gain an overwhelming, insurmountable advantageNot necessarily, it would be fine if it required a lot of skill to gain said high advantage, so when you are getting clapped it's your fault. I agree with you that narrowing the skill gap by lowering the ceiling is worse than by increasing the floor.>PVE design wants to make you more powerful so you can obliterate the enemy and feel invincible, since you are only fighting the computer it won't feel crap about getting beaten with no chance of retaliation.You feel powerful in H3 not because the game has or doesn't have overpowered mechanics, but because AI isn't able to use all the mechanics players have learnt to abuse over the years. Imagine if a h3 PvE normie has faced inferno demon farming, or armaggedon spam with black dragons/phoenixes. It's a matter of balance between the player and the AI, as it is about balance between factions. If all the factions were equally overpowered or felt equally underwhelming it would be completely fine, but of course it's better if a game is skewed towards the former more fun option.
>>738417482>>Stronghold>3 shooters (with the right upgrades)Centaur, cyclops and what was the third
>>738416559a lot of them were shitty ones too like gogs or lizard archers or like necro who didn't get one until tier 6.>>738417015weedmancers are effectively shooters
>>738415401>temple: 3 shooterswut
>>738418126Anon, Angels can shoot.
>No new patch todayDead game.
>>738419164New patch is coming soon. We are working hard
>>738387509Yes, its gay, retarded and focused on multiplayer & speedtrannies, just like devs promised.Btw that cover is digusting.
>>738418169Oh right forgot about that still had classic melee angels in mind huh
