Does /v/ like Pikmin games?If so, where do I start?
with 1, GC or Wii version, doesn't matter which.
>>738403436I tried Pikmin and it wasn't very fun. Then one day out of the blue I got the irresistable urge to get Pikmin 4. I binge watched reviews and then went to the store and got it that day. Turns out Pikmin 4 is fantastic, nothing wrong with it like the first one, and to top it off there's a bit of a reimagined retelling of the first game in it. Start with 4, and go backwards would be my recommendation. They get progressively worse.
>>738403580Yeah I only played 4 so far as well. I hate time limits so I’m still put off by playing the other ones
>>7384034361 is the best one.
>>738403736Time limits dont bother me too much, I just like that there's no friction in the gameplay now, and there's a crap ton of content, you get to make your own Pik Dude, it's got a bit of metroid in its dna, different tools, optional pikmin variants, coming back to levels with new abilities, it's a grand ole time.
3 takes the best elements of 1 and 2 together and is arguably the best place to get started with the series, though 1 is a fine game as well if you want to see where it all begin. 2 & 4 are basically dungeon crawlers first and time management/RTS games second. They're great games, though they really only work in the context of building off of their predecessors. Both of them also kind of suffer from having really broken options available that nullify the difficulty
>>738404073>3 takes the best elements of 1 and 2 together4 does that better, 4 is to 2 as 3 is to 1, you got a lot of underground dives and the night time missions in 4.
>>738403436The first one? Where else>>7384035804 is way unbalanced because of the dog. The tutorial also goes on for too long. I do prefer it over 2 and 3 since the caves are better and the dandori challenges are fun though. 1 is the best since it's just the concept executed well no fancy tricks or nothing.
>>7384042184 has a super hard difficulty mode, and using the dog is optional.
>>7384034361 and 2 are based 3 is dumbed down but still enjoyable4 is an insult
>>738403436>game series whose entries are; 1, 2, 3, 4>'where do I start guys?'WHERE DO YOU FUCKING THINK?
>>738404307They patched that in years later right? Guess I can't speak for that setting>using the dog is optional.From an objective point of view you shouldn't disregard parts of the game that you're expected to use because "you don't TECHNICALLY have to"
>>738403436From the first one, stupid.>>738403580>>738403736>muh time limitsThe "time limit" in Pikmin 1 is a literal nothingburger and only expects you to play at the bare minimum level of efficiency, not just that but you can buy yourself "free days" by gathering multiple parts in one day. And if anything goes wrong it's possible to revert to an earlier day. Pikmin 2 doesn't have a time limit and 3 is pretty forgiving too. Praising 4 while crying about 1 is pretty comedic considering 4 got extremely butchered and dumbed down to please newfags and babies.
>>738403436They’re for smarter people, so you don’t see too many Pikmin threads here.
>>738403436Play the first one first. There's a rom hack of the second game that turns it into the first one btw.>>7384035804 sucks Oatchies cock.
There's nothing wrong with just doing release order. They're all readily available on a modern system (technically two via backwards compatibility) and you can comfortably reach the credits of each of them in less than 10 hours, so even if one wasn't to your taste it'd be over quickly enough. I like them all, but if I had to rank them I'd say 4 >= 2 > 1 >>> 3.>>7384037362 also doesn't have a time limit for what it's worth, but in any case the time limits in 1 and especially 3 are both very generous anyway. imo the only content in the series where a time limit noticeably contributes to difficulty is Olimar's side mode and the higher difficulty Dandori challenges in 4, which was surprising because you never hear the end of how easy the game allegedly is. I find it pretty silly that that's the number one go-to complaint about 4 in a series where 3 exists.
>>738403580Braindead zoomer.Kudos to Miyamoto for knowing his audience
>>738403736>i hate time limitsIts not really a stressful time limit. If you set yourself to get at least 1 part a day at one point after getting tons of pikmin you will realize you have so much free time that you can get at least 2-3 parts per day.2 doesn’t have a time limit.3’s time limit is fake since you build it up as you collect juice, so you will always have more days than not even if you miss picking up a fruit one day.
>>738404307>the dog is optionalPlaying without a blindfold is optional, playing with one hand is optional, playing while I'm so stoned I can barely lift my head is optional, etc.
>>738403436>If so, where do I start?Release order. The answer is always release order. I don't know why people make getting into a series more complicated than it needs to be. When Pikmin 1 released in 2001, do you think there were people sitting around saying, "gosh, this is okay... but I really wish there was a Pikmin 4 that I could start with instead"?
>>738405189idk man i think Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 is a better starting point than THPS1.
>>738404492likewise you shouldn't lean heavily on an optional feature or mechanic and then swear up and down the game is bad
>>7384034361 GC, 2 GC, you can end it there3 is forgettable, 4 is shityou need not concern yourself with the spinoffs at all
>>738404515>The "time limit" in Pikmin 1 is a literal nothingburgerwhich is why just removing it from the series is aok
>>738404989“Dandori” challenges exist in every game one way or another and in all games they are difficult to perfect. Try pikmin 1’s challenge mode sometime. I tried it for the first time recently and i dont know how you can actually perfectly grow all the pikmin in the first stage.3 has similarly difficult challenge modes to 4.If you were to ask me which game had the “best gameplay” in terms of gimmick, i would definetely say 3 followed by 2 and followed by 1, 4’s dog is too broken.In terms of overall gameplay for me its 1 > 3 > 4 > 2. Its not that I hate 2 its that I’’m not that big on caves and 4 does caves better.3 is like an easier, more lax version of 1 for the main story, and I enjoy it. 4 is basically a mix of 1, 2 and 3. My main issue with 4 is pacing and how systematic it is. It takes way to long to complete the onion in 4 for example
>>738405175chopping your dick off and taking hormones was also optional, tranny
>>738403436You start with 1, then you play 2, you can play 3 if you really want to and don't touch 4, that one sucks complete ass.
>>738405189>Release order.fuck no, I will never ever ever play a series in release order, that shit is for the birds
>>7384051891 was 25 years ago. Sometimes a newcomer needs a modern game to get into an IP
>>738405576actually scratch 1 GC, do pikmin 1squared or whatever its called, the 2 romhack that ports pikmin 1 over.its basically the same but a log of non-charming jank is gone
>>738405571>You don't "technically" have to press the button so it's optionalPikmin are also an optional mechanicI even did a lot of the caves in 2 by punching enemies with Olimar since there was no reason not toI'm not saying 4 is bad, I in fact said I prefer it over 3 and 2. However it does have issues that you could argue makes it worse than the others. The series as a whole is very good
>>738405542>literally arcade perfection with a banging soundtrack doled out in perfect 2 minute incrementsLol what. Were you really missing the manual the whole time
>>738405636That's silly. Time management is one of the core aspects of the series, from managing your time each day from sunrise to sunset, to managing your overall time to complete the game. You wouldn't want to "get rid" of that. You would just want to balance it properly. Pikmin 1 was a new concept, so it makes sense that they would be fairly generous with the time limit... maybe TOO generous.
>>738405854there is nothing functionally different between the games apart from 4 killing the gameplay with the faggot dog and autolockon that incurs a whole lot of other other game ruining changes. yes lockon was made optional but the game design issues it caused persistfor example>enemy density is way down to avoid lockon issues>no good enemy encounters because you couldnt reliably throw where you want to prioritizethen theres the caves which suffer double from the issue above and that they now still have overworld time advance, so theyre extremely fucking short and without challenge so you couldnt possibly get stuckand of course the retard proofing by FORCING you into taking certain pikmin types, instead of merely suggesting so you can team build however you want
>>738405854The entire series (except the 3DS one lol) is on the Switch, no particular reason you can't just play the older games
>>738403436nigga the games are 1, 2, 3, 4, where the fuck do you think you start
>>738405890>Pikmin are also an optional mechanicno they aren't, tranny
>>738406136Time limits don't bode well for a video game. What happens when you run out of time? well you're just given more time.
>>738406348>he doesn't know>even tho that other anon literally posted a screenshot of no Pikmin run videos
>>738406243start with 4, then play 3, if you like the series at that point you could play 1 or 2 in any order, objectively
>>738406454not subscribing to your reality, trannynot healthy.
>>738406418>Time limits don't bode well for a video gameSome of the best video games of all time have time limits, anon? What are you even fucking talking about?
>>738403436>Pikmin 1 and 2>survive and explore on a harsh alien planet with strange hostile life where you're completely alone (or alone with a coworker, still no other intelligent life)>excellent atmosphere and feeling, gameplay that matches that>Pikmin 3 and 4>its a fucking party, lots of people. especially in 4, it literally is a fucking party and retcons 1 and 2 to never have been alone, it was always swarming with people>survival and exploration completely out the window, its just "le epic dandory" memes and speedrun optimizations>no difficulty to not get in the way of the hecking dandory>no atmosphere or feeling at all
>>7384037362 doesn't have a time limit and 3's time limit is determined by your own skill. You'd have to be phenomenally bad to run up against it, and actively refuse the option to retry days.
>>738406585Like what? Super Mario? what happens when you run out of time. You begin again with a full timer. Majora's Mask? you are given a timer refresh as a central mechanic.
>>738403436Start with 1 obviously. 3 is the best one imo, especially on original hardware using the tablet, but its definitely too easy. 4 has some really good points but also some really low lows. 2 is alright but im not a fan of how much of the game is caves
>>738406664>its a fucking party, it literally is a fucking party based department
>>738405890>I even did a lot of the caves in 2 by punching enemies with Olimar since there was no reason not toThis is basically what you have to do in those lategame caves if you're doing a deathless run.
>>738406887>Super Mario? what happens when you run out of time.You lose a life and you have to start over until you can complete the level within the time limit>Majora's Mask?Termina is destroyed and, again, you have to start over from your last save until you can progress within the time limit
>>738407032Ah, lives. Great feature, that's why it's gone.
>>738406887dead rising
>>738407032>Termina is destroyedTermina's destruction is continually retconned via the song of time. During dawn of a new day, every single thing Link accomplished occurs synchronistically. It has the happiest ending to a game in the series.
>>738407136They are? You don't actually play video games, do you?
>>738407201Good pick, that one requires you to replay the game to see everything. Good use of a "timer" to branch the narrative. We're still kind of just looking at branching narratives though, a signature trait of RPGs.
>>738407248Nowhere to be seen in Mario Odyssey, because similar to the timer it was ineffectual. What happens when you lose your lives in Mario 64, you are given 3 lives. In Mario Odyssey, no lives, you just lose coins. Coins being as important as they are, this loss can stand to be detrimental and punishing in ways at the forefront of gameplay.
>>738407392I notice you didn't mention Wonder
>>738403436Start with 1. If you don't like the time limit then keep playing until you realize that it's good.
>>738407546I am now confused, I haven't played Wonder. What do you mean? If I had to guess, are your lives a form of currency in that game?
>>738407305theres games with a calendar like persona but yeah unfortunately I dont think its a common mechanic
This is going to sound crazy, but I think you should start with 1, then 2, then 3, and believe it or not, 4 comes next.
>>738407746I like Persona, I wasn't aware that you can't accomplish everything in it? Maybe I am wrong, but the calendar strikes me as set dressing, and it plays to the theme in Persona 3, however in the other games it's just kind of there.
>>738407849sure it is mostly, though I think in the original p4 you couldnt max all ranks in one playthrough? not sure (I only played golden) but even then you do probably need to use a guide or save & reload for all hangouts to max it all.
>>738407797God i never expected to see such a visionary on a Malaysian goat felting forum.
>>738407242The time limit really comes into effect when you're completing dungeons. It's not that difficult but there's tons of shitters who whined they couldn't complete them before the three days are up. That's the best part of the time limit.
>>738403580Wtf is this post lol. Pikmin 4 is the worst one. They trivialised to much shit with the dog making the game too easy.The best game is Pikmin 1. The second best is Pikmin 2 just because of the caves. 3 is kinda shit and 4 is OK but the dog ruins it.
>>738408291Remake makes it better, 1/3rd less time, bosses have more phases which take longer to defeat, really gets the timer nipping at your heels.
>>738403436Start with Pikmin 1, on GC if possible. Then Pikmin 2, on GC if possible. Then Pikmin 3 on Wii U (otherwise skip). The Pikmin 4.
>>738409516Everything you think is trivialized is 100% better, I would take that wager.>The best game is Pikmin 1.I dropped it in 2 hours, wasn't for me.
1 is the thinking man's Pikmin, the arcadey nature makes it easily replayable and the game offers a solid challenge that allows progression without ever feeling truly trivial.Pikmin 2 is a great followup with a lot of improvements but isn't quite as replayable, the first third can be a bit of a slog, but showed that you make the series work in a different format from 1.Pikmin 3 is Pikmin 1 made baby mode, flying pikmin are somehow even more broken then P2 since they excel at literally everything. Mostly saved by challenges and bingo battle, still pikmin at its core at least.Pikmin 4 is an abomination, oatchi and the three type limit don't even entertain the idea of there being any strategy to be considered and caves are somehow a downgrade from Pikmin 2 released 20 years prior.
>>738409743I only played 3 on Wii U how did they handle the use of the tablet to control the other characters in the remake?
>>738409782>I dropped it in 2 hoursThat's almost the entire game lol
>>738409938I only played 3 on Switch so I don't know how exactly the pad was used on the WiiU version. You command your crew by switching to one of them, then you press start to bring up a map of the level, and you can select where you want them to go with a cursor
>>738403436Play Hey! Pikmin, play as Captain Olimar in Smash Bros and then drop the series
Favorite Louie Recipe?Mine is Fajita Dwarf Orange Bulborb meat.
>>738409989I guess I experienced all of what the game has to offer.
Even if you've never played played Pikmin I can not understand how you can find Pikmin 4 a satisfying experience. Like I don't care for Pikmin 3 since it's way too easy but if it was your first then I'm sure it was neat but what is there to like about Pikmin 4? You are actively penalized for not following the squad structure that the game tells you to be using, pikmin are undermined by how broken Oatchi is, combat has basically no strategy due to ice pikmin, oatchi rush, and auto lock on, and it does all this for 40 hours.
>>738403436I played it as a kid, had no clue what I was doing. I'm actually thinking of coming back to this game.
Yellow bros WW@?
>>738410705Ready to kill the infidel.
Isn’t there an ant game that’s similar
>>738410221you had the map on the gamepad and could use it in real time to swap and see the routes of your different crew members. felt really good for organizing things efficiently
Pate Foie Gras made from Empress Bulblax.
>>738404307>the game is hard if you ignore the major new mechanic the game is designed around Fucking P4fags
>>738403580Expert bait
>>738403436Yes. Its the only reason I have any interest in Nintendo these days.1 is fairly good for an intro into the series.2 is easier except for the ending dungeons.3 is peak4 is good but not as good as 3. Having the dog absolutely breaks the game you have infinite time and nothing matters you dont even need pikmin once you upgrade him a couple times.
>>738404307>and using the dog is optionalHe isn't, are you crazy? The game has numerous ledges in both the overworld and caves that are only accessible from using him to jump.
Is he going to ruin Pikmin 5 too or will he just be known as Pikmin 4's unique gimmick?
>>738411570Ever since Pikmin 2, each game has been made easier and ""more accessible"" than the last, so the only way he's getting replaced is if they find something to make the game even easier
>>738403436Not that interesting of a franchise. Tried 1, 2 and 4 last year and while I had fun for a while I couldn't finish them. All you do is point at things and wait
Love them. Do them in order, 1>2>3>4. You can skip Hey Pikmin, I played 20 minutes of it and got bored. 1 and 2 are more challenging, 3 and 4 hold your hand as modern Nintendo does more and more, but 4 even through contention is still a great game. Play 2 emulated so the brand references are intact, they made them generic in the Switch remake because of licensing.
>>738403436Pikmin is amazing, you should play them all in order, ideally the original gamecube versions of 1 and 2 to take advantage of the c-stick controls for moving your pikmin around.
Beer Battered Deep fried Yellow WollyWOGS. YUM
>>738412217https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzwn9Lb1HY8New Cooking with Louie dropped a few weeks ago
Does the WaterWraith make you piss your pants, Anon?
>>738403436Play 1, then 2, then 3, then 4. Pikmin is the rare series where each game builds on the previous, trying new things, expanding on what works, and fixing what didn't. They're also pretty short, even to 100%. The only down side is we just got a Pikmin like four years ago so we're not getting one for a while.
>>738411918Have you never played a RTS?
>>738411570He may have a reduced role, but there’s no way he won’t be in every future game.
>>738403436>where do I start?the first one, idiot
>>738412760There's like 30 more actions per minute in any random rts than in pikmin, I don't hate em but they are just designed for little children
>>738407797hey pikmin erasure
>”where do I start if I want to get into Street Fighter?”>”HURRRRRR DURRRR THE FIRST ONE CAN U COUNT”
What did Reggie think of Pikmin
If you cant beat pikmin 1 you do not DESERVE the rest of the series, sorry chuddos.
>>738413359Yes.
>>738413359bro you totally gotta watch the original The Thing before John Carpenter's/
>>738411570I will never accept this thing, complete ruins everything about Pikimin for me
I acknowledge 4's flaws and I still beat it 10 times already and I'll do it again the second a Switch 2 patch drops.
>>738413359It's worth playing it for 10 minutes to experience just how bad it is before you move on to the much better games, yes
>>738413290Yes. 4 should consider itself lucky to not be erased.
>>738413359>Primarily multiplayer series vs short linear singleplayer series
>>738406664God I hated this so much about 4. All the stakes are removed and so is the isolation.One of the castaways is a streamer that goes to the planet in hopes of getting views. A fucking streamer. Is this even the same franchise?Also all of the new characters look way too much like normal humans instead of the bizarre "human-like but obviously different" species that Hocotations were.
4 is allegedly due for a Switch 2 edition this yearWhat would you guys want out of it?
>>738414448Olimar's Shipwreck Tale 2, but with new levels.
>>738403436>Does /v/ like Pikmin games?/v/ almost universally loving Pikmin is one of the few signs of good taste here.>If so, where do I start?1. Ideally emulate via Pikmin Squared.
>>738414448Aside from performance? That Ice area they kept teasing and the ability to switch to Olimar and Moss for the main game once you save Olimar.>>738414519I do love Shipwreck Tale, still blast through it pretty often.
>>738403436GameCube Pikmin 2 is the only time I really enjoyed product placement, straight up wanted yoohoo because of it but I never saw it in stores
>>738403436Can’t believe I’ve never really played it and I had a GameCube
>>738416569All 4 entries are available on Nintendo Switch.
>>738416569Pick it up either by emulating it via Dolphin or one of the more recent ports. I recommend emulating because I am biased to the GameCube version
>>7384166121 and 2 are best experienced on GC1 as the squared romhack for 2
>>738403580I'm only posting in this thread to call you a retarded nigger with the worst taste I've ever seen
>>738403436>year of our lord 2026>still 30 fps even on switch 2
>>738417426It's 60 FPS if you emulate it on Dolphin and patch it.
>>738403436Fisher-Price Warcraft
>>738403436Yeah they play great on steamdeck and retroid handhelds.
They won’t do it, but I wish we had the option for Pikmin 1 and 2 on GameCube NSO
Gameplay: 1 >>>> Olimar's Tale (4) > 3 > 4 > 2 Literally everything else imaginable:2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest
>>738417891I like 1's atmosphere and narrative more. Olimar is facing certain death and the pikmin are nearly extinct at the start, exploring this hostile planet as the two help each other was more memorable then any later narrative.
What the FUCK is his problem?!
>>7384178913 and 4 are worse than 2 gameplay wise because of no c-stick swarmingcharge fucking sucks
>>738417343uh oh, melty
>>738418206Insatiable glutton, not the brightestBut not actually evil or malicious
>>738417891The gameplay in 1 still had that old school Nintendo level design philosophy. You could put it in the same bucket as SM64 and OoT. None of that gimmicky shit that came after
>>738409893Spot on
There's only 4 fucking games and most of them are short just start with 1 you idiot
All this IP needs is a gooner bait FemC and I guarantee it will hit Animal Crossing numbers
>>738418206>>738418683I prefer the old "bumbling, incompetent sidekick" Louie over the new "le always hungry man" Louie
>You no longer have to manage what Pikmin/route you're going to take over water. Just take le dog and flying Pikmin>You no longer have to aim your pikmin, auto aim does everything for you>You no longer have time limits eitherGenuinely what is the point of modern pikmin
>>738414342>One of the castaways is a streamer that goes to the planet in hopes of getting views. A fucking streamer. Is this even the same franchise?Haven't played 4 yet. PLEASE tell me this is a fucking joke.
>>738419630oooo brittany you so sexy
>>738419637I guess to not insult my time ig
All I remember is that Reggie is a purple pikmin
>>738403436if you want just a casual experience without stress go for pikmin 4, if you want the more "classic" pikmin experience go for 1 or 2, any work, and only play 3 if you liked the gameplay loop
>>738419634All his piklopedia entries in 2 were about cooking the wildlife and he ate the pikpik carrot shipment which caused pikmin 2.But yes, I agree, he's been flanderized real bad about it in subsequent games.Worse than that though is that 4 made him out to actually be evil and malicious. Which is just plain wrong. But that game retconned all of the first 3 anyway so it's no more than fanfiction in my eyes.
>>738419704>>738414342Why do you get outraged about things that literally do not matter?
>>738419704It's not, and it's actually very baseline for the average NPC. And there's a lot of them.The planet is basically a popular vacation spot in 4.
>Why do you get outraged about things that literally do not matter?
>>738420834Did you forget who the final boss of pikmin 2 is? Pikmin 4 uses the exact same plot point with a different monster
>>738418343Controls aren't the only aspect of gameplay which is why I don't rate 3 higher, which I think actually has the best controls. I'll admit I am not a swarm gamer. I've always preferred throwing than swarming which is why I like 1 the best. I think having to actively participate in a fight is more enjoyable than instantly vaporizing the monster with the c stick. >Throw pikmin in 1>call back perfectly>some trip and get eaten anyways>some thrown pikmin clip through the wall and die for no reason>monster just straight up doesn't die and takes a few with him >vgh soulOk I joke but I genuinely enjoy that inherent risk in actually attacking shit in 1. If you swarm correctly in 2 the borb is dead, no problems. Just pick the right color and all thought is gone. In 1 you can set up perfectly and something retarded could happen and fuck you up...so you NEED to actively watch and play these fights out. 3 meanwhile doesn't need jank to set this up. The enemy designs are inherently more engaging. >Armored monster?AIM at the armor then send in reds to finish it off, or continue throwing rocks while it runs around. >Flying monster?Throw pink pikmin...who are so weak they're going to probably die by some random spider after...or send yellows who are more autonomous and hardy but still require you to actually participate by AIMING at the flying fuckers.Even the beady long legs in this game makes you shave it before you can just start spamming pikmin. The reason I don't rank 3 higher is that the game itself is actually just a boring bridge simulator lol. 4 meanwhile has the worst controls ever made in history. Despite that the actual levels and dandori gameplay loop are just straight fun.
>>738420980What do any of those things have to do with the gameplay shartyteen?
>>738403436Yes. I replay 1 and 2 on the Wii every few years
>What do any of those things have to do with the gameplay shartyteen?
>>738421014I don't think Louie is conscious atop the Titan Dweevil. The Pikmin 2 players guide states "The leader of the Dream Den, and Louie's captor", so Louie probably fell victim to it
>>738421020You swarm most monsters in 1, granted you are right that sometimes the game just decides you didn’t do it correctlyLike when a frog will jump anyways even though you just mogged it with 100 pikmin and it doesn’t seem very consistent.I agree with you about 3 anyway. I also thought it genuinely had the most potential and I actually like flying pikmin
>>738421232The game also heavily implies louie wants to be left alone and was controlling it hence why olimar is just misunderstanding his intentions
>>738421020>I think having to actively participate in a fight is more enjoyable than instantly vaporizing the monster with the c stick.but you instantly vaporize monsters a lot faster and more reliably with charging than you ever could with swarming...not to mention that swarming isn't only offensive, it is also defensive, you can move your pikmin out of harms way it's a core functionality to the games and that it was removed after 2 for the far less useful yet much stronger charge is utterly mindboggling to me
>>738421231>child comes into 4chan thread to shitpost with wojaks seething because xhe lacks an argumentTruly the zoomer and alpha generations are fucking doomed
>>738404473>one of the games starts with "Hey" which is how most conversations startStart with Hey! Pikmin
>>738421361I don’t agree on >swarming vs chargingThe problem with swarming is that it was super inconsistent. Its fine if one or two pikmin die due to an inconsistency but it sucks to lose 5-10 minutes just because frog decided to be able to jump anyway despite being swarmed by over 70 pikmin and suddenly you lose 20-30 despite doing everything right.Random tripping is fine because it makss you play carefully, but shit like that is just ass
>>738421526you're not supposed to swarm frogs, you throw a controlled amount of pikmin on it and then pull them back before it jumps
>>738403580Complaining about time limits in a RTS game just tells me you'd hate playing any RTS game like Age of Empires
>>738421642Or Starcraft 1. Brood War fucks you if you sit on your ass.
>>738421591Swarming works just fine and is more efficient, the game just screws you over sometimes. Its fine as long as you’re not doing something like a no pikmin death run.
>>738421361>but you instantly vaporize monsters a lot faster and more reliably with charging than you ever could with swarming...Absolutely this is true in 4 especially with the dog fuckIn 3 though, most enemies have some initial obstacle that prevents this. Armor, flying, knockbacks, jumps, they swim too fast for blues to properly swarm, flying swarms actually have little dogfight clouds instead, etc. The charge to finish them off is a reward.
>>738421526>>738421591>>738421808Swarming Wollywogs works consistently in 1, but not 2 onwards.
Why don't they lose weight?
>>738422028i do agree that knocking armor and stuff off first before you can actually go for the kill is goodid just prefer swarming wasnt cut as it had applications for things that weren't just combat, and it feels a lot more natural to me than press button to charge all of them right onto the locked targetid rather just swarm the target
>>738422226He's a fucking rock
>>738422226Healthy at any size, chud
>>738421368Any zoomer born after 2005 is fucked in the head, the only reason the ones before that were spared was that they had a couple of years before smartphones got everywhere
>>738403436>Does /v/ like Pikmin games?yes>If so, where do I start?Literally any of them are a good starting point. There is no real agreement on which one is the best as they all have their strengths and weaknesses.
I have only played 1, 2 and 3 and haven't played 4. But having seen the "I'm only here for Pikmin" review of it, it sounds fucking awful. Like they looked at 3 thought it wasn't easy enough and decided to make it even more babified.
>>738422715I'd say 1 or 2 are the places to start, they're a good introduction to the series and setting
>>738422767His review is very accurate, imo goes too easy on it.I played 4 and hated it.
>>738417243I have never played the Wii versions so I will not act like this is simply true, but I have been told many times that they are the superior way to play 1 and 2. I hear the waggle controls actually give you more throwing range and functionality. >>738418206It's autism, plain and simple. Louie lacks capacity for care or admiration, he doesn't think, just acts.
>>738422767https://youtu.be/68iErVZRzt0?si=3BBDwfwcxjDoE8OtUpdate made him warm up to it.
>>738422883>I hear the waggle controls actually give you more throwing rangeThey do, but is it a good thing? The range was very intentional in the GC versions. None of the 1 ports also fix the jank inherent to it. Playing the Squared hack for 2 is the best way for 1.
Oh yeah I was gonna test 4 in handheld boost this week but forgot
>>738423034Squared hack? I'm playing through the Kaizo hack now as the only modded hack I've played (I do have 1 multiplayer, but not counting that) Is it any good?
>>738423096None of the Pikmin games work with boost mode.
>>738422226I love my black queens
Cheese stuffed Bulbear young sound heavenly.
>>738423192It's all of Pikmin 1 in Pikmin 2's engine, gameplay and all faithful.It's got a custom side campaign as well which is ffffine, but the main attraction is Pikmin 1.It's the best way to play 1.
>>738423201Shit. Oh well glad I kept my OLED switch 1
>>738403580Pikmin 1 is the only game without sprays, inherently making it the best and most balanced. No one ever talks about how broken these things are
>>738423369thanks, I'll check it out
>>738423468Pikmin 4 still benefits on Switch 2. Speedruns are 40 minutes faster from the loading improvements alone.
>>738406664>(or alone with a coworker, still no other intelligent lifebeing really generous to 2 here, aren't you? You're in constant communication with the ship, the president, and your family members>alien planet with strange hostile lifeagain, a much different atmosphere from the first game since Olimar has visited this place before and is familiar with it (even though parts of it have changed). there is zero sense of danger (aside from the president running from loan sharks, which is played as a joke)2's atmosphere is night and day compared with 13, on the other hand, much more resembles 1's atmosphere in ways that are so obvious that I don't feel the need to elaborate on4 really is a giant party though with only a hint of danger regarding rescues being in danger...but they aren't traumatized by the experience at all and are more concerned about growing flowers or some shit idk
>>738421642"Time limits" in those games are just reminders of the actual objectives, like the other anon said, if you're not doing it to it, then the opponent will fuck you.
>>738421232>>738421014>>738421314so what's the logic here? Louie wanted to be left alone so he could sleep on top of a giant bug in the bottom of a cave for eternity? 2's credits show Louie living a much more active life exploring nature after Olimar left. Maybe being alone was why he jumped ship in the first place, but, in all likelihood, he ran into the dweevil somewhere along the way and it collected him to keep as a treasure against his will.Alternate theory: louie ran out of oxygen shortly after the debt was repayed and the dweevil collected his unconscious body thinking he was a treasureEither way, malicious intent really isn't conclusive in 2, but it is much more apparent in 4
The growing emphasis on elements has only hurt design throughout the series and I hate it. Gating progress behind things like water is fine but making dedicated elemental gates was a mistake. It's mafe even worse by elements being made nonthreats as early as P2 beside electricity. Pikmin shouldn't feel strictly like keys.
>>738421361another point about charging in 3 is that there is some strategy in it to get that sweet instakill. If you face an enemy and point-blank charge it, your pikmin will run up to it and then only latch on one wave at a time (so you have like 6 pikmin attacking, then 10 pikmin attacking, the 16 pikmin are latched on and so on). All of your pikmin don't instantly transmit onto the enemy at once, so the kill time is slowerIf you run around the enemy for a moment, spreading your squad in such a way that they surround the enemy in a curved line, then charging will be much more effective because you're attacking from all different angles (allowing a greater number of pikmin access to the enemy to attack it)Swarming isn't without its strategy either. You'll usually want to swarm your pikmin into a tiny group around you before thrusting them all forwards onto the enemy. You get your whole squad attacking this way
Which Pikmin enemy would you fuck if it looked sexy enough?
>>738422883>wii versionsI hope you like your pikmin being deleted from existence every time you interact with an enemyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhvfyx9krV4
Swarming is perfect, even in Pikmin 1 which is jank as fuck I have never had issue with it, and think it's great for both combat against multiple small enemies ir maxing out carrying numbers. Also the horn is iconic, no idea how anyone can prefer charging.
>>738426619
Admit it, it's the better verson.
>>738426759The Empress Bulblax caused me to have both a breeding fetish and a fat fetish
>>738426213pic unrel? you posted what's probably the series' best usage of elemental hazards. you might say that>wow throw fire pikmin at the fire goop so deepbut the different elements here facilitate squad management and multitasking, even if the elements themselves aren't very nuancedthis can be said about a lot of the series' mechanics, that they aren't very complex, but they all come together in such a way that it forces you to effectively navigate and manage them (assuming there's a time limit)
>>738426852I'm assuming 4 uses the same style of gyro aim that the Switch port of 3 did? Honestly never wanna pop Pikmin 3 back into my Wii U, the campaign was that disappointing.
>>738410380I'm playing pikmin 3 right now and the lock on is probably my biggest issue. There's no quick and reliable way to swap between targets and I've fumbled a lot of pikmin from trying to get the cursor to behave and target an enemy instead of random objects nearby.
>>7384034362's boxart goes the hardest
>>738426885Bulborb fleshlight?
Is 4 worth $30
>>738422767I agree with a lot of his criticisms, and that it's the worst of the 4, but I still enjoyed it. I replay it a lot less than the other 3 though due to its length.
>>738428747Yes for Dandori challenges alone.
>>738428747no, just emulate it
>>738405890>Pikmin are also an optional mechanichave you ever played a pikmin game in your life? the videos in your pic are challenge runs and usually have to make use of glitches to even complete the bare-minimum requirements for a good ending.
>>738429504>Haha pikmin aren't an optional mechanic silly!Yes that was the point being made in reference to oatchi
>>738416569You could get a copy physically second-hand for not too much, which you can't say the same for most other first party Nintendo games. I got a copy of Pikmin 1 for like $40 since I had long lost my childhood copy.
>>738429745Go and fuck the dog why don't you?
>>738429745Never mind I'm retarded I thought you were referring to the other games. Yeah Oatchi's inclusion made 4 so unbearable for me despite waiting for the game for like 10 years. To this day I haven't touched 4 since 2023 and I doubt I'll ever revisit it, even with the newer updates seeming to make the game slightly more playable.
>>7384034361
>>738429745Just don't use Oatchi
>>738406136The games still track how many days you're taking, you don't need a deadline hanging over your head to want to be efficient with your time, even if that deadline isn't actually something you should ever worry about.
>>738430536I played the game without riding Oatchi.It still fucking sucked because the maps and encounters are laid out to work around lock on and Oatchi.It was fun trying to get around the intended Oatchi riding parts without riding Oatchi though. You can actually beat the entire game without ever riding Oatchi. Makes the final boss a huge pain since your Pikmin will just walk into the insta death zones however, but it is possible.Naturally having fun to get around the games intended mechanics is not a defense for the game. It's still worst Pikmin.
>>738428193I love this shit, extreme soul
>>738431232holy skill issue
>>738403436Loved 1 and 2, didn't play anything after that
>>738422767his videos are based, arlos community is a bunch of faggots though
>>7384034363
Only first party I think I haven’t played
I was able to get all the parts as a child before the time limit. You're all pansies. My rule of thumb was, one ship part a day. If I couldn't get one I'd at least use the day to set up to get two parts the next day.
I’m a big fan of the series in general and I’ve 100%d all of them, but none of the games is perfect, and 4 is by far the worst.1: Best atmosphere. All alone on an alien planet, trying to get home before your life support gives out. Controls are clunky compared to later games.2: Oh look, another bland cave. 3: Best enemies and bosses, but auto-aim makes combat too easy provided you selected the right pikmin type. The limited food supply sort of recalls the atmosphere of the first, but after the first couple days you’ve more juice than you could ever use.4: It’s like they couldn’t say “no” to anything. “Hey let’s add a cuddly dog” “and items, let’s not forget those” “and 20 types of Pikmin! Wearing costumes! And hairdressers! And the world isn’t postapocalyptic, there’s a fully-furnished house!”. Ridiculously easy, even in “ultra-spicy” mode. Dandori challenges are actually fun.
Spit roast the Snagret and make it into kebab.
>>7384034361 is the best game2 is more mechanically complete but the dungeons are fucking gaySeries ends as far as I'm concerned after that
>>738403436>Where do I start?Pikmin 1, obviously. Switch version is the most accessible version outside of emulation, it's a fine way to experience the game and allows for motion controls without any of the weird issues from the New Play Control version. Pikmin 1^2 is the objectively superior version, though I'd recommend playing the more normal versions firstAfter that, Pikmin 2 is also worth playing, though it's very different in terms of your goals.Pikmin 3 is garbage outside of the challenge mode, just skip it. Pikmin 4 is baby's first Pikmin game and while it has a lot of problems, it also has some very good parts, namely the Dandori challenges and Olimar's Shipwreck Tale. Your enjoyment of 4 will largely hinge on what you think about Pikmin 2, so only play it after 2. A recent update also fixed several issues, namely the lack of manual aiming and a new game plus mode
>>738403436release order. the Wii ports are "easier" in that aiming and throwing pikmin controls better because of waggle, but I quite like the control of the Gamecube releases. makes combat more tense because movement requires readjusting aim more.
>>738438651Wii port of 1 is actually harder, crushing glitch means pikmin from die just from being next to enemies when killed and yellow pikmin's ai when handling bomb rocks was fucked up making the emperor bulblax fight way more tedious because you can't properly stun him, just let him eag a yellow holding a bomb rock which stun him for like second or two.
>>738403879The time limit affects the ending and getting not enough parts get you the fucking shit ending. The game isn't easy either, it's very easy to lose an entire day's worth of farming pikmin.
>>738440443how the fuck are you spending an entire day farming pikmin
>>738403436>Pikmin 1Basically a tech demo>Pikmin 2Absolutely fucking butchers the lore and ruins Olimar's character forevermore. Optimal way to play is to play without Pikmin, retarded game design. >Pikmin 3Absolutely wonderful. The high water mark of the entire series. Fantastic. >Pikmin 4Haven't played it yet, I need to get around to doing that.
>>738440575For reasons you haven’t experienced yet, the game heavily incentivizes this. Experienced players on casual runs plan around optimizing at least one such day.
>>738441885I dunno I feel like you'd run out of sources of growing more pikmin before the day is done, especially on the days after getting a new onion because you likely killed some shit on the way there and fed that onion those kills on that day. Like in Pikmin 1 I basically just fed whatever I killed to the onions on the spot, and would do clearings of the nearby flowers on landing and I ended up with an insane surplus of pik'd men, even with my EXTREMELY sloppy play and willing to roll with the deaths of my critters.
Gentlemen, how would >(You) balance the pikmin types?>always have the three primary types and add only two new types only per entry with occasional bulbmin>types from prior entries are used only in bonus challenge modes designed around their unique qualities, like purples and whites were in Pikmin 3 but actually good>Reds: make them the highest damage pikmin, but allow combat benefits to other types still. Return fire to its glory in Pikmin 1, kills them fast as fuck.>Yellows: electricity is a dumb element, scrap it entirely. Return to making them a utility type with bomb rocks being usable to break down walls while adding more of an emphasis on their throw height via more tall ledges and airborne enemies that only lower make themselves vulnerable to other types occasionally>Blues: just use water in the levels, that's it.
>>738441494>Pikmin 2>Absolutely fucking butchers the lore and ruins Olimar's characterThe fuck are you talking about?
Why didn't anyone tell me the side modes of 3 are way better than the main story
>>738403436yes they're the beststart with pikmin squared, it's pikmin 1 remade in pikmin 2 engine with many improvements
>>738403436I like and respect this series a lot (outside of 4), but I fucking suck at it. Omnipresent time management stresses me out, and I either feel like shit for making any mistakes, or just reset the day if I feel I screwed up too hard, despite knowing you can easily bounce back.Is there a way to get over this or am I just doomed? It's the same thing with Majora's Mask. I'm glad I can at least recognize it's my own failing and not the game's.
>>738418206forced to eat ze bugs
>>738444590You can either embrace the autistic pursuit of dandori perfection or just learn to accept that the loss of a few pikmin here and there isn't likely to hinder the overall result outside of specific challenges
>>738422767>review
>>738422767You need to link that video, or there's a risk of it becoming LOST MEDIA
There are many flaws with the later games, but god damn if all of them aren't the perfect games to play during the spring/summer no matter which one it is. The atmosphere is amazing in all of them in their own waysI just love the garden and wilderness aesthetics so much
>you got some of that nectar??
>>738403436snoycube trash
>>738444590Stop caring if only a few pikmin die unless you’re specifically doing a challenge run of sorts
>>738447540Its a video from one of the most obnoxious youtube personalities it shouldn’t be very difficult to find if you’re actually interested in that trash. Not that i would expect any sort of intelligence from fucking cattle
>>738403436>250 replies>no mention of [B]ikmin
>>738403436Love em. Best part is that each game is unique and replay-able in their own right.
Unironically needs an open world Pikmin game
>>738449243damn I wish I was this HECKIN BASED and epsteinpilled bro you're such a cool goy
Which team works on Pikmin? Is 5 still a few years away?
>>738451886Yes bringing up random political controversies out of nowhere is objectively the most intellectual way of argumenting or debating, just like a zoomer would. Most mature generation ever humanity is doing well
>>738453239>Yes bringing up random political controversies out of nowhereLiterally what you did, you fucking midwit
>>738453318Really? Point it out, I am not seeing it. I believe you struggle from severe reading comprehension issues since nowhere is anyone talking about epstein up until the point where you bring it up.
>>7384034361>2>3>>>4Switch Ports are the worst ports of the first 2 games. 3 Deluxe is better tho.Start where it starts.
>>738403436I like 1 and 2 as a whole and I like 3's mission mode in the original Wii U version and that's it. Main game of 3 was a disappointment. 3 Deluxe fucked up hard by dialing down the difficulty from an already easy game (which also got applied to mission mode which you can't turn off in that mode because there's no difficulty options). Not even going to pretend that I ever gave a shit about Hey Pikmin. 4 was frankly embarrassing and actually managed to kill my interest in this franchise, which I didn't think was possible as I'd been a fan since the original game came out in 2001.
>>738453019New studio that did 3 Deluxe and 4 with Nintendo oversight. Pikmin hacking YouTubers said 4's toolset was built in a way where they can make new levels much easier going forward so 5 shouldn't be too long.
>>738453498The only thing I would consider inferior from the switch port of 1 is how you get nectar, everything else is superior.
>>738453637No, the script is worse, the jokes are removed and the font and logo is souless.I don't see a reason to play a worse version of the game.
>>738444590Are you autistic?I played Pikmin 1 for the first time last year and still managed to beat the game with almost 10 days remaining1 was my first into the series too
>>738403436pikmin 4.
>>738444590>Is there a way to get over this or am I just doomed?Just play the game. Stop being a bitch.You won't improve otherwise
>>738453443>Not that i would expect any sort of intelligence from fucking cattleYou reek of smug faggotry, don't pretend any other kind of retard is so condescending while acting so above it all,.you sperg
>>738453825Pikmin 4 is one of the only Switch games I got a refund for.
>>738453713Frankly i do not know what you are talking about or care considering I don’t even read the text when I play the game anymore even on original hardware but you do you, as far as I noticed nothing in the script was changed i see no harm in playing the switch version
>>738453932It's not my fault you are uneducated and unwilling to get educated.
>>738453851Sounds like a hit a nerve. Its not my fault you and the other anon are incapable of reading by the way I not spoonfeeding you
>>738453972Sounds like your claims are bullshit then. As I thought. It seems your claims about the “font” was also the title font. Yeah I do not care for mongrels like you. Ironic that you call anyone else a sperg.
>>738453613>Main game of 3 was a disappointmentAfter NINE fucking years between 2 and 3 tooThe decade between 3 and 4 meant nothing to me because I really didn't care anymore after how they made 3 so easy and hand-holdy and hearing about 3 Deluxe making it worse while also having a joke of a hard mode.
>>738441494>Optimal way to play is to play without PikminYou're one of those retards that spends hours punching every enemy to death for every single floor, aren't you?
>>738454073You literally said >"I don't know what you are talking about and i don't care"If you don't care, there's nothing to be done. It's not my fault you are refusing to learn new facts.You chose to stay ignorant, not me.
>>738453987Try learning English before trying to own somebody lmao
>>7384541434 is worse. The enemies never respawn.
>>738454208Own? I didn’t have to own anybody you owned yourself
>>738453987>a hit a nerve>i not spoonfeed youESL
>>738454174What new facts am I refusing to learn? The title font on the game icon? I simply got curious enough to look up what you were referring to. Mongrels like you tend to get outraged over the smallest things.
>>738454412>What new facts am I refusing to learn?You already said you don't care.Why do you care all of a sudden? Do you want me to spoonfeed you all the differences between the versions? Yes or no
>>738454342You exposed yourself as an ESL, madamsCope and seethe
>>738403436I just don’t get the appeal.I tried 1-3 and all of them are just kind of unfun.1 has horrific pathing so your pikmin get stuck on everything and cannot cross bridges.This is not gameplay - it’s fighting basic and badly programmed AI
>>738455124Its just not for you.
>>738455124>cannot cross bridgesUse the C Stick to steer them. It's taught to you in-game.If Pikmin fall, keep blues nearby to throw the drowning Pikmin to safety.
>>738403436with the first one. where else would you start?
>>738454143>>738454214
>>738403580>it wasn't very fun.are you black?
>>738453932>>738454073NTA but https://pikmin.fandom.com/wiki/Pikmin_1%2B2#Text_2They removed everything relating to "husband" "wife" and "love" because everyone needs to be asexual now and marriage is rapeNot to mention all the items becoming generic items, and the classic Ai no Uta Easter egg has been removed despite being a long running easter egg in all the games that composer has doneThat's just a few but enough to btfo your retarded ass
>>738455430Here are the more egregious exaamples that most sites don't talk about. Writing that isn't "allowed" in current year
>>738455430Wait, what items? Do you mean the treasure? Also this isn’t pikmin 1 this is 2. We were talking about 1.
>>738455675>pikmin 2 not 1>still posting things that don’t matterAlright
>>738456620Pikmin 1+2 are on the same cartridge.
>>738456829>begins to argue dishonestly using irrelevant pointsIgnoring the fact that this doesn’t matter for the point being discussed, Assuming we are still talking about the switch version, They are not if you bought digitially.
>>738403436Just in order. The first Pikmin game isn't hard at all if you're competent, but it was the only Pikmin game that actually made time management and creating Pikmin and keeping them alive feel impactful.
>>738404218The dog almost completely ruined the point of Pikmin and made it more like a watered down, easy action game. I really hope they do away with this shit going forward.
>everyone complaining about the dog in 4I am not exactly in disagreement but theres a few points to be made about 4 and the dog:>dandori challenges prove that the game can be balanced around the pikmin and the dog>the actual problem is the lack of a time limit, if they had established some sort of time limit in between main missions the dog would have felt far more balanced
>>738455281Wii Pikmin 2 plays so well that I honestly don't mind the broken throwing range, the whistle duration is cut really short for no reason which does bug the shit out of me though.
>>738457038>Assuming we are still talking about the switch versionWe are.They were made by the same developers, and the changes made to update them (make them worse) is consistent in both 1 and 2.Stop crying.
>>738457432>Pikmin 3 Deluxe is fully co-op>In Pikmin 4 co-op partner is a cursor on screen that taps things.>can't even let them be the dogWHAT WERE THEY THIIIINKING?
>>738457771The changes you mentioned only apply to 2 not 1.
>>738457873This bothers me as well. I played 3 co-op with my bf and it was a great experience. Wish we could have done the same with 4
>>738457873It's really frustrating that 2-player Co-op wasn't implemented into Pikmin 2 outside of Challenge Mode and the only game that officially does so is 3 Deluxe. Tired of half-assed multiplayer like Pebble Pitcher.
>>738458051You already admitted you don't know the differences between the versions.How would you possibly know this?
>>738458495Probably because I didn’t notice any of the script changes you mentioned in 1. I was aware of the changes in 2, since that game had lots of things that would be the target of said changes, like the treasures being homages to real life brands.
>>738459741>I didn't notice itYeah, because you already admitted you didn't read any of the text in the game.
>>738460118I read it the very first time I played that version at least. Not a single thing stood out as wildly different to the gamecube version script.Maybe there is some small trivial change, but why would I notice it? And why would it matter?
>>738461114>I read it the very first time I played that version at leastNot what you said earlier. Try and keep your story straight.>>738453932>I don’t even read the text when I play the game anymore even on original hardwareAlso if you "don't care" why are you still here?Seems like you care an awful lot.
>>738461715Correct “i don’t read the text anymore” implies that I did at some point, which is consistent with what I said.I play the game very frequently, I don’t think its strange to say I read it at least once and don’t anymore.>Also if you "don't care" why are you still here? Seems like you care an awful lot.About the text changes you’re crying about? Correct I don’t. I am curious about what was changed in 1 that causes such outrage though, if just to see what it is. Who knows might change my mind but I doubt it. Whenever these complaints come around its always something as minor as a pronoun change or even just some adjective getting changed. I am too old to be getting pissed about something so utterly trivial and unnoticeable.
>>738461998>Correct I don’t careThen why are you still replying? I won't prove something to someone who won't bother reading it, by their own admission.
>>738461998>If i refuse to read it it's unnoticableTendies are mentally ill.This is the level of mental gymnastics they go through to convince themselves that it's okay to buy a downgraded version of a game for full price.
>>738462075I am reading it though every single one of your posts, how else did you think I realized you were actually talking about 2 and not 1? The one who tried to obscure that fact was you or another anon. Are you sure you are reading what is being said? Either way if you don’t want to it doesn’t matter to me anyway. I will maintain my position that nothing in 1’s script was changed unless you prove otherwise since I am not going to autistically scour the script of the gc version and the switch version of 1 to find whatever minor change you’re sperging about just to prove the point of a manchild in 4chan to myself.
>>738462295>Admits he doesn't care>suddenly pretends to care???
>>738462295>I will maintain my position that nothing in 1’s script was changed unless you prove otherwiseWhy do I need to prove something to you, if you don't care about it?Admit you care, or I won't spoonfeed you like a baby.
>>738462440I will not. You do not have to spoonfeed me don’t worry.
>>738462609Good. Then stop begging for things you don't even want. Autistic people are so strange.
>>738462650You don’t have to project anon.
>>7384034362 is pretty solid,
>>738462739Pot. Kettle. Black.If you don't care, stop replying.
>>738462747Why would you start with a sequel?
>>738458495You can’t really prove there were major script changes in 1 because said changes do not exist unlike 2. Thats why you went with the 1&2 bundle strawman.Thats how I know, because you were bullshitting from the start and trying to ride that
>>738462769I don’t have to stop replying to not care, I just believe you have severe autism. After all why make bold claims about major script changes without backing them up?The font comment was actually funny, I actually looked it up cause I felt bewildered not really noticing the difference in it when I played. Then I realized he was talking about the Icon when you fire it up on switch, though he made it sound like the changes were in-game.Tell me what is that other than autism?
>>738463106>Doesn't care>demands proofI thought you didn't care?
>>738463240I am not your boogeyman just calling out your lies.
>>738463239>Admits he doesn't care.>Admits he doesn't want proof.>Admits he doesn't want me to spoonfeed him said proof>"PLEASE PROVE YOUR CLAIMS TO ME RIGHT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!"No, you autist.Admit you care and I will.
>>738463383Sorry, I still won’t.
>>738463595I accept your concession.
>>738463791>the ultimate “I don’t have a single argument” reply
Pikmin 4 is so frustrating because it has potential to be really good, but nintendo nintendo'd all over the thing and made it braindead easy and added bizarre restrictions like the 3 type limit and overbuffed the shit outta poochy. I think the caves are generally a step up from 2's and the dandori challenges are quite fun. but then the game just shit's itself on basically everything else.
>>738464294The pikmin count restriction made sense, But I would have preferred if it was restricted to 5 even if an area only required 3 types.They definitely should have added a time limit between missions then just made the game last endlessly after you clear the final one so you could clean up any loose ends and sidequests. It would have massively improved the game.
>>738464009What do I need to "argue"? you conceded your argument. That means you lost by your own admission.
>>738403436I liked pikimin games. 1>2>3>4. You can make an argument for 2 being better than 1, but 3 and 4 are dogshit. This series has truly been in decline. I hope they stop making more games.
>>738464524Oh I did not concede any argument at all. I still do not believe you are telling the truth and it is not up to me to prove that. If you don’t wanna post your “argument” though thats fine, like I initially said I don’t actually care janny
>>738464735>Admits he doesn't care.>Admits he doesn't want proof.>Admits he doesn't want me to spoonfeed him said proof>"PLEASE PROVE YOUR CLAIMS TO ME RIGHT NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!"No, you autist.Admit you care and I will.
>>738465020No. Just accept your supposed “concession” and drop the argument already.
>>738465141Reply again.
>>738465020Its fucking obvious Pikmin 1’s script was not changed anon, anyone can google and see that the pikmin 2 image was from a reddit post. Just quietly walk away nobody actually cares and everyone recommends pikmin squared anyway.
>>738465389>"I DON'T CARE!">"I DON'T EVEN WANT PROOF!">"I WON'T EVEN READ IT!!!">okay I won't supply it.>"NOOOO YOU HAVE TO!"Reply again.
>>738465478Cope.
>>738465538Reply again
>wanted a comfy pikmin thread>instead get 2 autists arguing non stop
>>738466443what Pikmin is that?
>>738466443That conversation, if you can even call it one, is over. Post more pikmin
>>738466858An idle Blue PikminFAKE FAN
I hope 5 has online co-op. None of my friends care about Pikmin but it would be nice for speedruns.
>look for 1+2 used>$60 everywhereSheeeeet
Fun Fact: I got Pikmin when it came out in february, with some christmas cash I saved up for it....I didn't have time to play it so I faked being sick and skipped school for the day to play it for awhile.It was hard and worth it. Better than going to class in fucking middle school.
Any good texture packs for pikmin 1 and 2? or are they all "HIRE THIS GUY!" tier?
>>738468801This is the only one I knowhttps://www.henrikomagnifico.com/pikmin-4khttps://www.henrikomagnifico.com/pikmin-2-4k-texture-pack
>>738442283If one doesn’t save scum, usually a failed playthrough looks like>bomb rocks or bulborb fight mishap mid day 3 when going left towards the snagret instead of right to the radar, pikmin extinction or close>waste half a day coming back at which point you only have convenient access to about 15-25 pikmin because the enemy corpses from the previous day are just gone>this is very dicey in pikmin 1 to fight a big bulborb as a newbieso by the time you get to the forest navel you have like 30ish pikmin which absolutely fucks you on dandori and combat against wollywogs if you’re bad, and basically guarantees it’s like day 15ish by the point you hobble your way to the distant spring, because navel is terrible for farming.At which point if you don’t go for clamclamps you’re bringing like 50 pikmin to bulbear snitchbug fights and are gonna get slaughtered back down to low 20s pikmin. Repeat a few times and ggPretty much only takes three mistakes>fuck up with bombs early>go left and waste the early farming day>not be aware of clams
>>738469160Yeah thanks and i've tried it before, but it's just so extremely "noisy". Not very faithful for the most part in my opinion
>>738411918>All you do is point at things and wait.Odd way of saying you didn't earn platinum medals.
>>738442283>>738469215Also anecdotally, there’s a gender aspect too: failing women don’t save scum and go down with the ship, whereas men don’t “fail” as in soldier on to day 30 or to the point they feel they won’t make it to 30 parts and thereby quit, but mostly because they say>the quest would be lost at this point, to play on would be a waste of timeAnd reset days that would start failure spirals.
>>738440443>>738442283>>738469215bro...ditzy vtuber girls beat the game 100% with plenty of days to spare on a blind playthrough while wasting days just afk chatting with chat...What the fuck are you doing that you're having isues?
>>738464294>Pikmin 4 is so frustrating because it has potential to be really goodNo, it doesn't. Every single aspect of the game is complete, and sometimes literal, dogshit; there is no making changes to 4 to make it good, you'd have to change so much that you're just making an entirely new game.The gameplay is significantly worse with shitty Pikmin number limits and the type limit, the fucking dumbass dog that ruins everything, enemies that suck ass and don't respawn (no, getting an update with a mode that boosts the HP a bit doesn't change this), caves being a complete downgrade compared to the ones in 2 that removes everything that made the caves good, overworld areas that are just really big and empty; and that's just some gameplay problems, there are way more. The characters and story is ass compared to the previous ones, way too many, generic, shitty characters that add nothing and only annoy you with their retardation or constant on-screen messages, the areas look and feel like shit (except Serene Shores, that one's okay, but a fucking normal, clean house with random Pikmin shit shoves in places is insulting), things are brought back from older games for nostalgia points but also just ruins many things because of it (remember the interesting and mysterious Smoky Progg? Here, have fifty of them; remember the challenging Submerged Castle? Here, have the exact cave but worse as we ruined cave. Remember how Louie was riding the final boss? Here, have it again), the dreaded nighttime that was supposedly super dangerous and we couldn't explore in previous games being turned into a shit unfun tower defense mode, the fun minigames from previous games being shoved into the main game instead of being a side thing (and also making them complete shit, Dandori challenges are terrible), the music is just plainly bad compared to the previous games; just to name a few of the problems with Pikmin 4.tl;dr shit game, doesn't feel like Pikmin at all, delete 4 and start over
Any good pikmin inspired games?
>>738468210Just play pikmin square for 1, it's infinitely better than the switch version
>>738470954Not everyone fucks it up, this is just what the fuckups always look like, as a semi-social autist who invites people over for drinks and pikmin 1. I’m up to like 5-8 people at this point.>vtubers can do itChat is constantly bailing them out with solutions. Pikmin 1 isn’t hard if someone tells you squad compositions, where and when to farm, where to go, and the best way to kill things you haven’t seen before. If you just watch in silence, different results.
>>738472820No, I remember there was an indie game focused on competitive multiplayer that had a trailer but haven't heard about it since. Only real way to get more pikmin is to play hacks, thankfully the hacking scene is decently active so a handful of worthwhile hacks exist.
>a fucking menace in 2>joke tier in everything elseWhy did they nerf him so hard, he was legit terrifying.
>>738477040Why does he loom like he's made of plastic?
>>738477304Shitmin 4 tried making the enemies look more like they did in Pikmin 2 which was a good choice after how butt ugly they looked in 3, but the textures suck.
>>738477304>>738477460Pikmin 2 Spotty Bulbear is the best>suddenly turns asian
This is a Hairy Bulborb thread actually, Spotty Bulbears, or as we like to call them, Niggbears, do not belong
>>738477548>Spotty Bulbear's Hocotatian PikPik Carrot deliveryman impression is so offensive that the President's debt practically doubles and he is unable to ask the Bulbear to stop coming back to fucking life while being transported to the Onion
>>738455214>It's taught to you in-game.He didn't play it.
What's your fewest number of days? I managed to beat Pikmin 1 in 10 days
>>738472820The Moulder demo, although it's more monster hunter than pikmin and probably never becoming a full game
>>738450928No the fuck we do not. Pikmin does not work with open world designs, because they are too small. A BOTW sized map would only be someone’s backyard sized irl for pikmin scale. You would get literally ZERO level variety. So, no. It is NOT a “FACT.”
>>738453931Horrid taste. Please return to reddit.
>>738448087Yes now drink up.
>Hairyfags getting uppity again
>>738472718You posted a novel just to be wrong kek. I ain’t reading allat, nog. It must suck for you being trans tho, that shit ain’t healthy.
>>738403436I've only played the first one. It's not really my type of game, but it was quite good
>>738422226>All the fat Pikmin are the ones that break combatWhat do they mean by this?
With how big a lot of these enemies are compared to the Hocotatians and Louies tips showing a lot of them are edible, wouldnt they never starve? Like a bulborb looks like it feed a whole family, 3 meals a day, for like a week and then some. though for Louie, its probably just a snack.
>>738448087THERE'S 99 STARVING PIKMIN WHO COULD'VE DRANK THAT NECTAR YOU SELFISH FUCK
>>738482323Would making them a food source be viable, though? Oxygen being poisonous to those guys is the biggest hurdle to farming them.
>>738470954I don't care what fat men with no jobs larping women do when playing the game the 1000 time.
>>738474715anon... i watched those vtubers... they did not need help...are you in a special needs communty by any chance?
>>738472718100% true and accurate postno irony
God damn silver lake remix is hard
>>738477040>in everything elseHe's a fucking menace in Pikmin 1, are you crazy? Health is bloated as fuck and his eating animation makes him fully invul.>>738480603>Bulborb nendo comes out>get it, love him>Oatchi is announced>dislike Pikmin 4 and Oatchi in general, but he comes with white and purple pikmin for displayI would have bought a recolored bulborb even before I give a dollar for that damn dog, shit sucks.
>>7384041534 is dogshit
>>738483569You don't even need much help bro, a single chatter being like>you missed the radaror>WRONG WAYand you just completely unfucked their entire day. You belong in a special needs community if you don't think a vtuber isn't getting this kind of feedback from their chat.
>>738484505sure anon, sure.. youre doing alright, video games can be very tough...
>>738484505Nta but you have 30 days to obtain 30 pieces. If you have trouble obtaining 1 piece per day you are legitimately mentally disabled.I never understood the discussion about the time limit, even though they are present in Pikmin 1 and 3 they are both so generous it makes no difference at all whether it's present or not.
>>738403436>where do you start a videogame franchise?I don't know, do you start watching movies from the middle?
>>738404307>4 has a super hard difficulty modeIt isn't.I like Imonlyhereforpikmin but he's quite wrong there. The adjustments only make the game take more time but the challenge is basically just reflexes.>using the dog is optionalGames are about solving problems and players will always choose the path of least resistance if they can. Self-imposed challenges are only in the player's head and not the game.
Friend drew this
>>738486082Nice borb
>>738485635I used to agree, until I saw what can happen if you're not aware of pearly clamclaps, because the game has almost zero catchup mechanics besides them.The game has a soft threshold around 25-60 pikmin for stunlocking different enemies, which if you're not consistently above for whatever you're fighting, makes combat exceedingly dangerousWhat happens is they're already low on pikmin from other fuckups, then have a moment like>okay, I got 28 blues and 18 reds, here's a bulbear blocking the way back for this part, I've got like 5 blues working that bridge, so I gotta kill him with 41 pikmin>They fuck up throwing fast enough>bulbear eats like 13 of them after they take like 60% of the healthbar with their microsquad, they decide to run away rather than finish the kill due to the heavy losses>fuuuuuuck now I only have 28 pikmin...>I guess I'll farm pellet posies the rest of the day...You can get stuck in a cycle of "you don't have enough pikmin to consistently kill confirm enemies, and you need to be finishing kills in order to have enough pikmin to kill more enemies or engage in any dandori.This problem mostly goes away once you go over 100 of each pikmin type, but someone who's bad at the game is also typically bad at growing lots of pikmin, so they're constantly losing important combat encounters meaning once they run out of the easy stuff, they start failing multiple days in a row to get parts home because they keep fucking up the combat, not getting squad refreshes, and then the problem gets worse because their squad keeps getting smaller and smaller.
>>738486181I'll have to get her to draw more
>>738486082it rotates
New Pikmin challenge background noise dropped.
>>738486897https://youtu.be/aToOByyHrhw?si=Mb13Fh47y5L_U9Sk
>>738472820>>738475773It was one of the most beloved underrated Wii titles and a really good Pikmin clone. There's also a PC port which I hear was finally fixed. There is no Vita version.
>>738485635I had problems with my first playthrough of Pikmin 1 because I was stressed by the time limit and didn't know the map all that well.Now I can finish the game in less than 15 days, but I still like the time limit of the first game because it changes the way I approach it by merely existing. in Pikmin 2, the mere thought of wasting time does not even exist. Personally I don't have a problem with this because it focuses on resource management instead, but it still shows how even generous mechanics have an impact in how a player approaches a game. The reason why I don't like Pikmin 3's time limit in story mode is because it is completely under my control compared to the first game, but I definitely love Treasure Hoard mode. Those platinum medals (on the Wii U version) definitely demand multi-tasking.
>>738403580Pikmin 4 is great
I think Pikmin's the only series where I've ever seen get into such heated debates over which game is like an 8/10 instead of a 9. I also think it's interesting that opinions are so varied, I've known people that think 1, 2, 3, or 4 are the best for their own reasons, as well as the worst. I think it's just a hilariously solid series and people end up gravitating to certain aspects of individual games over others as a result.
>>738487606Shame My Life as a King/Darklord never got a PC port.
>>738490424Pikmin 2 is my least favourite since purple grind and random dungeon kills the appeal to my dandori loving autistic ass. Still 8/10 and replayed more then most games.
You guys think that the Switch 2 Edition of Pikmin 4 will only increase in resolution or also add 60 fps?All S2E have added 60 fps if the game was previously 30fps except for the Animal crossing S2E which only increased resolution (probably because Nintendo deemed that in a game like Animal Crossing high fps isn't important), and I'm thinking they might do the same for Pikmin 4.
>>738491245Highly doubt it, Pikmin is always 30 FPS so they'll probably focus entirely on graphics and maybe make it start loading the next floor as you approach a hole.
>>738491671Yeah I was thinking they are gonna just bump the resolution to 4K, add high res textures and faster loading times.I wish they would update 3 Deluxe considering that game is 720p in docked and fucking 576p in handheld.
>>738492936Switch 2 improvements alone already cut the speedrun time by 40 minutes. If they make it instant then maybe another 30.
3 sucks. Fuck the wii u copers who pretended that shit was good.
4's auto targeting sucks. I'm on the fence about 3 introducing charging over swarming
>>7384904244 is a fairer 2
Ive tried 3 different games over the years and I just cannot get into it. I think the idea of it is cool. The closest thing ive enjoyed compared to this was pixel monsters on ps3.
>>7384034362>1>>>>>>3 misssions>>4>>>3 campaign
>>738494980Have you played the challenge mode and Bingo Battle, or just the main game? I think 3 is only liked by people who got really into the side content.
Only the first game played using a gamepad is good and full of SOUL. Thanks for looking.
>>738495125Only main game. I had no idea about extra modes
>>738495509Try it out. The purples were diluted with fluoride or something, so they suck. But the rest is really fun. I hope you have a friend or something for Bingo Battle.
>>738494879>4's auto targeting sucks.They update the game and you can disable it now
>>738495719Ill check it out. Thanks
>>738483467We aren't talking about you shitposting on 4chan; we're talking about vtubers
>>738487606Loved these dorky little niggas like you wouldn't believe
