You just had to be there
>>738408523>Dozens of people used to duel here...>Now... it's a ghost town
>>738408523>invade>fully min maxed gank squads>if you killed the host they would use CE to crash everybody's game
>>738408523Lore accurate though
i spent like a hundred hours invading and getting invaded in the first 3 areas with different builds then i was so burned out i quit the game. i probably did the first 3-4 bosses like 30 times each
>>738408523>get invaded>wait for a bit>disconnect internet connectionLMAO get fucked
>>738408523babbys first iron keep
Why are there so many death signs between Things Betwixt and Majula in Dark Souls 2?
>>738408523How did from go from such a well executed game like DS3 to the trash of Elden ring
>>738408889Chinese bot accounts doing a suicide glitch.>>738408874Iron Keep was terrible as was the rest of DSDS22
>>738408523I used to love backstabbing the biggest looking faggot or killing the winner immediately after he won in those fight clubs and enjoyed the chase that followed from the rest of the retards up the tower after. Gay as fuck elden ring didn’t have anything like that
>>738408747>playing souls pvp on pc, everonly yourself to blame
>>738409321>playing souls pvpYikes
just pay attention to the return to community events
>>738408784DS3 is the absolute worst game making multiple builds.>first act of the game is a fucking slog>only one sequence break, two if you count beating Friede to go to the Ringed City early>every weapon is R1-R1, so there really isn't a point to making multiple buildsER, DS1, and DS2 are much better for making multiple builds. It takes 20 minutes to 2 hours to get a build off the ground, and usually less than 4 or 5 hours to fully "finish" a build. I have something like 45 Elden Ring characters from level 1 to 200 for co-op and invasions.
>>738408523>get summoned for fight clubs>rtsr + moron blade + dragon shout + millwood bow + hawk ring + invis ring>headshot the host from the stairs 1shotting him from full hp>run off into the sunsetGood old days. I had a video of this on a youtube channel before i deleted my google account
>>738408523>Pontiff Sulyvahn Gank City 2016
>>738408874babby's first township>>738409518the guy who popularized that setup trooned out
>>738409571>metafag trooned outsubhuman is as subhuman does
>>738409571babby's first forest
>>738409571How could he when i am its inventor?
it was trash but I miss the darkroot garden auto invasion pvp
I dislike how Souls PvP degraded into duel wank, twinking and co-op gank squads who aren't even trying to advance the game. DeS had the best version of online due to its simplicity - no covenants complicating everything with grinding shit, resurrection items were a bit rare and you really wanted to have human form to get you HP back and to free a ring slot, so it felt like you had an actual incentive to either co-op or PvP to help advance your own game. DaS3's system was also pretty okay since winning in PvP victory instantly netted you humanity for more HP and the online item was early accessible, unlike DaS1's shit where it's hidden and potentially permanently missable in late game.Best memories of online in all the games I have is acting like a complete asshat as a dark phantom and using mobs and crap like knockdown spells to push people off ledges, or conversely, helping a noob host survive a similar asshat player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm0UJRGjPqY
4-1 is where the real OGs gathered.
>>738408523I never did tranny fightclubs even when playing 1 or 2 on release so no I dont care
>>738409823Play seamless co-op if you want good invasions. The lack of downscaling means that players are disincentivized from playing through the game with level 400 password phantoms, and almost all players are playing through the game organically. If you DO encounter a level 400 would-be-password-phantom they're nigh invincible, but I've only encountered 1 or 2 in hundreds of invasions.Alternatively, use Cheat Engine to manually adjust your character's invasion zone flags so you only invade good zones. The only issue with this is that you're trapped in those zones, because you'll have to go offline, relaunch CE, and re-adjust your invasion zones if you ever leave and accidentally flag more.
It's unfortunate /dsg/ became one of "those" generals
>>738410158I tried seamless and I cant find any passwords that have players
>>738410243comes with a series gaining popularity
>>738410248That's not how it works. You don't need a password to invade, and you can invade players regardless of their password. The only way to disable invasions is to flip a 1 to a 0 in the .ini, which the average seamless co-op player is too stupid or stubborn to do.
>>738408523>muh fight clubSo gay
>>738408523I was there for 3500 hours. And ringed city too obviously.
>>738408747>Not having CE open yourself and your own scripts to counter their scripts in a forever arms raceSkill issue
Invading in DS3 was fun as hell, so many ganks. Worst game, best PVP.
>>738409428Honest Merchant mod.Or just CE.
>>738410243Good fucking riddance. I spit on its grave. The funny thing is that /erg/ will be as bad, if not worse, because of Nightreign and Duskbloods. I haven't been to /erg/ in over a year, but I guarantee that it has become even worse than it was when people were jerking off over attention whores writing fan fiction. Multiplayer games kill generals.
for me it was the iron keep bridge in 2
>>738410620I CE in ER, depending on how I'm feeling. Sometimes I feel like playing through the game with a build.
I'm still upset about the giant seed nerf. If you played your cards right you could convince the host to pop a seed and let you help them as a pseudo-Mad Phantom.
Yo what's up guys, ChaseTheBro here, and welcome back to another weapon showcase! Today we're gonna get tilted and hardswap to a tryhard meta weapon
>invade in dark souls 3>HOLY KINO!>Invade in elden ring >Yep, that my wife and her boyfriends over there.
>>738408686>dozensAnd here i thought souslop was popular
>>738410652Townshit and Forest in DS1Iron Keep in DS2Gank City and Ringed City in DS3Fuck Elden Ring
>>738410158i've been thinking of doing this - is there a guide to Cheat Engine or how to get an invader set up?
>>738410739I can never find this fucking image, so just pretend I posted Michael from Arrested Development opening the DEAD DOVE: DO NOT EAT bag and going>I don't know what I expectedbut it's a Chase thumbnail and when he looks inside it's rain of golem arrows
>>738408523This and the battle royale with invaders on that courtyard with the giant and silver knights were the best shit.
>>738410723>It was just a tiny tiny nerf bro, from 2 hours to 45 seconds. You won't even notice broI used CE to give myself unlimited seeds but would never use more than the 3 allowed per bonfire resting
for me it's Darkroot Garden mayhem invasions
>>7384109291.) Download Cheat Engine2.) Download Hexington's CE table https://github.com/Hexinton/eldenringcheatengine3.) LAUNCH THE GAME IN OFFLINE MODE BY CLICKING ELDEN_RING.EXE IN YOUR INSTALLATION DIRECTORY, DO NOT USE CHEAT ENGINE WITH EASY ANTI-CHEAT ACTIVE4.) Edit what you want to edit, within reason*5.) ???6.) Profit* - If you're curious about what is and isn't safe to edit, either use common sense or search the Hexington Discord for more information. For example, giving yourself runes to level up is obviously safe, whereas manually editing your level is unsafe because it'll create an obvious discrepancy for EAC to detect. Giving yourself items is safe, but giving yourself cut content items (like Fia's panties) is unsafe. Since it's not common sense, I'll say that you can freely edit character flags (summoning pools, invasion zones, graces unlocked, cookbooks unlocked, etc.).
>>738408523this is why the duskbloods will be kino
>>738409428>ER, DS1, and DS2 are much better for making multiple builds.nobody that actually played pvp says this. everyone agrees ds3 was the height of souls pvp
Kill yourself God damn zoomer faggot
>>738408523DAS1 was the only one with really good pvp. Every janky shitty thing on its own turned around and worked together to make it good.Maybe Des was good too idk I didn't get the chance to try pvp.
>>738410243Thanks to thag neko that guy who pretended to talk like a cat girl and made the general his private blog
>>738411690>laggy back stab fishing and black flame spamming'no'
>>738411690lmao no
>>738411690Biggest issue with DaS1 PvP was that the permanent dark phantom PvP item was hidden in late game and potentially a permanently missable item depending on what order you played areas. In addition, since hollow form didn't decrease HP there was no reason to play online other than for its own sake, if you didn't want to co-op your own game. This means that PvP was dominated by people who looked up walkthroughs and meta shit. Balance wise the game was also all sorts of ficky fucky with twinking being the worst, especially early on with non-scaling chaos zweihanders and lightning uchigatanas, people using the ninja roll ring with Havel armor, and worst of all the ring that made you untargetable - unlike the better implemented Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 3 equivalent ring where it didn't fuck with targeting, just made you invisible at long distances so it was easier to set up ambushes.
>>738408523Fuck I miss it.>back in the hay day>fight clubbin after night school>just me and my trusty lothric spear>get into a match with a total scrub host after he can't find more summons>thrall hood shitter>put zero effort into the fight>r1 pokes and walking toward him (menacingly)>faggot drinks all 15 estus throughout the fight>I don't even take damage >kill him>drink all my estus on his body and spam the out of estus gesture until I dcGood times, /v/ros
>>738408523OH BOY I SURE LOVE BEING GANKED BY 2+ SWEATY PVP NECKBEARDS WHILE I'M HIGH PLAYING MY SINGLE PLAYER GAME. YEEEEESSSSS DUDE!
>>738409394Didn't they already do this back in January? Nobody ever summoned me or up voted my messages. Dead game. But cool idea.
Nothing will ever beat playing Demons Souls with /v/ when it first came out. The thrill and tension of fighting invaders and invading yourself, picking when to strike and when to use enemies to retreat and set up another ambush later...it was a very special time before the series got huge and the mechanics were fully explored.
>>738411690Correct. 3200 hours of ds1 pvp here. Zoom zooms will never know.>>738411841This is how I know you don't know the quirks of the pvp and probably weren't there or active in the small community.
>>738411928>>738411841Two who might never understand >>738412263Yes twinking was an issue.There were multiple pvp cultures depending on your area of the game, the forest, the burg, the kiln, anor londo, you could invade or host depending on what you wanted. There were plenty of people in the forest who obviously hadn't done any walkthroughs.
>>738408523The pvp fucking sucked. Elden Ring somehow made it even worse. Souls pvp was never good. Ever, none of the games with pvp had anything resembling a good experience.>but muh invasionsBullying new players is boring as fuck, I dunno why inavderniggers obsess so much about killing people that are just playing with friends. It's the reason nightreign is so successful: you can skip the bullshit and go straight to co-op pve without jank-ass netcode and faggot ass invaders trying to kill you with meme 1-shot builds. It's fun for like a month at best but some fromdrones want to do ONLY that for years and years and fucking decades.
>>738410243/vg/ is proof that its okay for a thread to die
>>738408523>decide to replay DS3 for old times's sake, maybe do some PvP>reach Pontiff>holy shit, there's actually a guy running a fight club>eventually, a red spawns in and attacks the host, so I go to defend him>red attacks me with staggered rotten gru sword, Estus cancels and throws poop like it's 2017>sends and retracts a friend request>comments on my profile and deletes it immediatelyWhat drives a man to do this in a dead game in 2026?>check profiles of anyone who acts like a tryhard retard>they're all russian or chinese
>>738408523im at the painted world right now in the chapel bonfiretry it faggots
>>738408523This fight club was always fucking stupid. Why would you hold your fight club in a covenants invasion zone?
>>738411449>source: crack pipe
>>738413127The occasional clueless guy wandering in, chimping out and getting stomped by everyone was always funny. Fight clubs were for people who want to have fun, not the sweaty fighting arena shit we got with the DLCs.
>>738412839forgor picand this is not counting the GFWL era.None of the other souls games had the pvp quirks as good. No not dark souls 3 either. In fact dark souls 3 brought all the low life degenerates and ruined it all.
>>738412917>Bullying new players is boring as fuckIf you know, you know
>>738408523That's how I feel about Dark Souls 1 in its entirety.There were no wikis yet. No one knew how half the covenants worked. We were all sharing secrets as we found them and dumb builds as we came up with them. It was the last time I had a fun communal gaming experience.
>Exploring an area I've never been before>Lots of backtracking so out of estus>Get invaded>Guy hides behind enemies and only attacks when they're aggrod>He heals. I don't.>Eventually die.>He drops poop and does the point down emoteOkay? So this is dark souls pvp, huh? Sure seems fun
>>738413435People sharing maps etc in the generals was fun but I much prefer youtube videos that only show me what I'm looking for and dont spoil a bunch of unrelated stuff.
>>738413439i dont remember getting this pissed when this happened to me, there is no penalty to dying in souls, in fact you are kind of given bonus souls for it. reminds me when i booted up some DS2 with an IRL friend. Dude kept getting pissed every time he died. Do people really expect to never die?
>>7384133013k hours and nigga didnt get all achievements? you didnt beat the game, and, you have no answer for this
>>738413402>disgusting scraping spear userI kneel
>>738413712Achievements? The fuck are those?
>>738413765I'm simply a knower.
lSomeone invaded me in elden ring and gave me an unuseable baldachin blessing with an error image and I can't delete it
>>738413620If I were actually pissed off I wouldn't be sharing it here. I just genuinely don't see the appeal.
>>738413897You are gonna have to use Cheat Engine to manually remove the items while in offline mode. Don't start the game online until you have done this.
>>738413897did you pick it upi've never heard of people being able to manually inject items into your inventorybut you should probably use CE to remove it like suggested
>>738408523It wasnt fun to be there. Oh cool a guy rolled and then teleported behind me, missed his swing, and I got instantly killed. How the hell did Fromsoft never improve their online?
>>738410243GGs church rats we ALMOST had them
>>738413968flip it around on them a single time and youll get it
>>738408523Does dark souls have better or worse pvp than old school runescape?
i have never played a souls game with online enabled, first invasion was laggy as hell, turned it off and never looked back
>>738414072He hit me with a transparent light sword and it appeared
>>738414346i hate the way that these dudes movebut funny
>>738411306How do I find a version of CE that doesn't have malware/spyware embedded in it? Last time I tried installing it from cheatengine.org site it also installed other shit.
>>738413439The problem is that you lost, if you had overcome those odds you'd find glory.
>>738408523I don't understand how anyone likes PvP in these games. It is so fucking laggy and jank. Hits always take close to a full second to register
>>738410243>started to play OSRS after a several year break>went to /vg/ to talk about the game i enjoy so much>its just people erping>havent been backi honestly take containment boards for granted
>>738415727Because there is nothing else quite like it. And precisely BECAUSE it is unfair and not balanced.Balanced pvp is dull and boring.
>>738413968Its an eternal contest to see who is the biggest asshole.- over 600 hours invading in Ds3
>ds3>brigand twindaggers with bleed>bandit knife with frost>luck scaling staff exclusively to spam the shitty frost spell from dlc>Irithyll straight swordyep it's gaming timeeveryone acts like you can only invade with gay ass great weapon one shot builds but quickstep is so op it makes pretty much any build viable.I miss my frost witch build. Bought a new PC and didn't realize ds3 didn't have cloud saves so I lost three fine-tuned pvp builds. Could CE it I guess but it feels like the magic is gone without me my gold ranks in the arena.oh well
>>738411703>made the general his private blogall of the gens seem to have a form of this guy, it blows
>>738414346>side view of those iron keep notsamurai who stupidly and randomly run +~500% faster with ugly animationWhat a shit game.
>>738408835>Invade someone >They immediately leave like a pussy>Oh hey I won by doing nothing, again!!
During the first month of ER release I made a Beavis looking Tarnished and hung around the Grace in Stormveil Castle, the one beside the fire place with an elevator just before it.I'd place friendly signs down and bumrush the Blade Hawks, get the the attention of the Host with whistles at the edge of the rampart.Making sure they watch/follow me drop down to the wall and then sprint to the crumbling ledge.I'd then take the scripted safe fall before the Host makes it there. Then i scare away the beetle so they lose out on the item. Right after that, I do a lean on the tree and wait for the Host to drop down to their deaths. Some rarely landed safely.If they manage to get down there, they miss the beetle and don't know it spawns there until next time they try to come down. I let them fight the Knight alone too because im scummy as fuck.If they survive the whole ordeal they most likely missed out on the beetle. I mean, who's gonna come back down there after exploring it entirely?
>summon grape for a duel>he runs off>Hides somewhere just so he takes a spot >I cant summon anyone to a duel anymore>have to restart the game
>>738417843Murky Enjoyer hereThey nerfed quickstep into oblivion in Faglord Ring. I will never forgive fromsoft. Instead we get bloodhounds shit.The smooth movement in DS3 of quickstepping into R1 is gone forever.
>>738408523I bet if i queue up right now it would be just as cancerous
>>738408523this and iron keep bridge were my childhood lol, god I miss it.
Is Dark Souls 2 lighting mod going to get you banned online? It's a dll injection.I would think fromshit only checks the integrity of the save files and these will get flagged if you spawn certain items and so on but because it doesn't have an anti-cheat dll injection should be safe?I haven't played DS2 SOTFS in 10 years and it's pretty fun but I need that mod because it's butt ugly otherwise.
>>738408523Dark Souls had no future as a fighting game, it was basically just a test of patience, there was no way to beat somebody who doesn't value their time and plays reactively with a straight sword.I used to invade Pontiff's Backyard and shoot people in the head with a greatbow and an obscuring ring. Fuck duels.
>>738408523This and "muh honorable duel you must bow" in Dark Souls were the low points of pvp
>>738420571It was a fun distraction when these games came out on original xb360. No one in their right mind should play them for online only for thousands of hours, that's just pretty damn idiotic. People always ruin everything.
>>738408747The only two places that happened were Farron Swamp and Pontiff's Playground.Invade literally ANYWHERE else, and the chances of encounter a CE user were extremely minimal. You have so many good choices, but you went to the worst area for invasions in the entire game and then bitched about invasions.I always liked the Demon Ruins.
>>738420321I am currently using the ultrawidescreen mod for SOTFS, which is also an injection. I have been using it for years and currently no ban or anything. But I would still be smart and careful about it.
For the past 5 years whenever I go to SL120 Pontiff’s Backyard on PS (because I’m not playing with other players on PC everyone there can fuck off especially in ds2) there’s been the same three gankers fucking around in Ornstein armor. They’re The Three Ornsteins, I think they’re all from South America.
>>738420571Dark Souls 1 and 2 were for dueling. In 3, duelling is pure trash and extremely boring. DS3 was made for invasions and the chaos that ensues.
>>738420571thats why for honor existed, currently outliving a few FG vets just because its main modes allow casuals to blame some one else/balance then themselves
>>738420734It wasn't even really the fight clubs that pissed me off, it was the people who suddenly thought that all pvp should only occur in the context of duels, so whenever they got invaded they would just rush back to the bonfire and wait in a line behind their two buddies. Most of them would get into the spirit of it if you shot them in the face with a greatarrow and start chasing you, but a decent chunk of them would just outright disconnect if you didn't deign to HONOROBU 1V1 DUEL BY BONFIRE, actually kicking their friends from the game as well and wasting everybody's time.The pvp carebears really tried to ruin the asymmetric multiplayer.
I love Elden Ring invasions
>>738408523Fight Clubs were so much cooler than gayrena. Especially in DS3 which let you summon a lot of people.When you go on a killing spree you actually feel like a champion, with pretenders lined up trying to take your title, watching intently as you take another head
>>738420571Dark Souls 3 was where the absolute bottom of the barrel most washed up FGC players ended up because they could freely play like shit and still win. Everybody lost their fucking mind when Scott Jund started talking about DS3 like it was a legitimately balanced 1v1 pvp game.
>>738408747>>738408523I played DS3 on PC a few months ago. It's actually pretty active with Wex Dust, so I did a bunch of invasions with different meme builds on my level 50 character. A lot more clueless players than any ganks.
>>738409571>the guy who popularized that setup trooned outwho was that?
>>738422067The open world invasions are some of the most dreadful dogshit I have ever seen in a Fromsoft game.Dungeon invasions are mostly peak.
>>738408889People intentionally kill themselves there specifically to fill it with bloodstains as a meme for new players to make them think something really difficult is just up ahead
>>738408523Fuck fight club faggots for ruining one of the best invasion spots
>>738422207Well at sl50 no wonder. The ganklords are patiently waiting for you at sl120-139.To be fair, some have caught on that people just run sl80 and so they make sl80 ganksquads too.I'm a red through and through though. Gankers and blues need to be flayed in front of their families and dipped in acid baths.
>>738422632blue spirits are just free estus refills, they're always welcome to participate in my invasions
>gets invaded>greets him, readies up for a fight>he drops an item>it's a fully edited katana>i follow him around, just sheer curiosity>he drops more hacked items>starts shitting dung piles on monsters>one shots the boss>refuses to elaborate>leaves
>>738411449???DS2 is literally praised, even by people who otherwise have an unreasonable hateboner for it, for being the game that had the best actual PvP.Meanwhile all 3 had was the meme post-Sulyvahn """arena""", everything else was rancid dogshit.
I could care less about PvP in souls games (or PvE for that matter) i wanna be left alone exploring a desolate and ominous world
>>738422632There's no point in playing at meta in DS3. You can comfortably finish the game + DLC before reaching the meta range, so by invading there you exclude yourself from ever having any organic invasions, which defeats the point of the mechanic entirely.
>>738421674I asked because I don't trust what some random retards say on Nexus Mods, lol. This is what I thought: it should be safe. They will only get uppity if you modify your save files as that's an easy server side integrity check because some items are strictly tied to your progression and can only spawn x amount of times and so on..Dark Souls 3 is probably a different thing but that is a question for another day I suppose.
>>738418592Except you win exactly nothing.
>tfw I played DS1 on Steam in 2015>it was the Prepare to Die edition after it was already taken offlineFeels pretty bad, I played that game in such a lonely state with barely even any messages and no online. I would have had more fun if I just somehow played the game earlier
>>738423126play offline then>I could care lesskys
>>738408747>>if you killed the host they would use CE to crash everybody's gamethis barely happened
>>738423007Gank city brawls were the peak of souls pvp, other games never got as crazy because they didn't let you have 6 players in a world
>>738423243Sadge, but you should have bought it in 2010-2011 and played it like everyone else.Now all we have is Dark Souls DEmastered
>>738409375Souls pvp isn't even good when its NPC invaders, it turns from a fun game to a retarded roll spam and doing attacks just out of range to hope the hitbox skims them.
>>738423394this. gank city was fun for sure but some places like cathedral of the deep and grand archives invasions were incredibly fun
>>738423551Cathedral of the Deep is peak souls 3
Elden Ring has the best PvP mechanics, but the actual multiplayer infrastructure is fucking dismal. I've been invading since Demon's Souls. A game with Elden Ring's mechanics and DS3's emphasis on covenants and PvP areas would make me very happy.
>>738423869my brother in ash
Kinda annoying we still dont know shit about next real game
>>738424363It's going to be a reboot of the Lost Kingdoms franchise from the early 2000s, except open world and with full pvp
>>738423425About 2 years, I ended up just buying the remastered version and replaying the game with that version. It definitely felt different and looked a lot of different, but at least I got to see 'some' of the online features
>>738424363Let's wait and see what he's really cooking up
>>738424363>>738427295Let me guess... It's some Dark Souls derivative...
>>738427565Their development workflow relies on re-using assets, like a modern Castlevania. Anything that strays too far from their existing titles either thematically or technically means throwing out work, which means the next game is either smaller or takes longer. When Monster Hunter redid their graphics with World their roster collapsed and their weapon designs went to shit and it took years for them to rebuild that asset library.
>>738414142Have you tried not playing on wifi?
>>738427741Their original development pipeline was to just make like 4-5 cheap games each year via rampant asset re-use, before Demon's Souls propelled them to fame and forced them to actually consider their release schedule beyond 'This dev wants to make his dumb idea into reality, fuck it, why not, give him six months of development resources and then ship whatever gets made'In particular, Lost Kingdoms and Lost Kingdoms 2 have basically been acting as the eternal Fromsoft asset bucket for the last 20 years. Go back and play those games after having played Elden Ring, and then be amazed at how familiar some of those animation rigs are.
>>738427741How does this poster explain Sekiro? It has almost exclusively unique animations for almost any mob that matters for example
Souls pvp became popular because its very similar to WoW pvp. Dancing around enemies, cooldown rotation. I remember about this time most of WoWs fanbase started to disperse and this filled that hole left by wow
>>738408523>invading people on that invisible walk way area right after this and watching them panic and roll off the invisible floors
