Come watch it starts in 5m. we're getting duelist, surely?
im hype for the atziri mtx
>>738408980Duelist wonTemplars lost... until 0.6
>1 minute leftIt's basically confirmed that we are getting breach, expedition, ritual and delirium reworks
poe1 babies ruined poe2
big booobers
im cumming buckets
>more system and mechanic bloatsyawn
POE2 was the biggest shot in the foot I ever saw in my life
That's it? Only 2 new ascendancies?
>no new classAHAAHAHAHAHHA RIP
More new content than the d4 expansion and for free.
I got my key for free from /v/sucks for those who paid 30 bucks for a free game
holy shit
>no new classoh... oh nobros.... oh nothis is it? loooooooooooooooooooooool
I AM GONNA MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNK
>>738409590same I remember giveaway threads
lol the twitch chat is crashing out over no sword
I'm gonna say it, abyssal is the only good league so farHow do I undo my updates and go back to that?
>>738409649
The absolute state of swords
This is feature bloat. Who the fuck asked for this shit? Give us a new class and weapons with their respective skills?
>tfw no stinky hippy gf
>"Biggest update ever">No new class, no new chapter, it's just the endgame rework we were supposed to get five months ago
>that whole trailer
>no swords>no duelist>rework all mechanics except Temple of Dogshit
I never enjoyed endgame in these games, but how is the stuff the announced making endgame more exciting? More than the new bosses it's just kind of the same?
No new act.Endgame still shit.Pass.I'll keep playing CDDA.
Where are the acts?
>still no blood magic themed spellsand im still not coming back, when WILL THEY GIVE ME FUKCING BLOOD MAGIC!!!!!!
This is dumb. too many runes that barely do any shit
>>738410018>CDDAwhat
>>738410092crimson dawn: dawn again
>MORE currency bloat
wow who gives a fuck about any of this shit
>>738410092shitty sprite indie game from 20 years ago that people have been pretending to like because youtubers are discovering it.Kind of like Dwarf Fortress.
>>738410092Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead.Think Rogue/nethackBut it's a zombie apocalypse.
>>738408980>no swords>I TRUSTED YOU V!!!!!!
Wake me up once all classes and all weapons are available - who fucking cares until then.
>>738408980>No new class>The endgame is a placeholder>The "endgame patch" doesn't change the placeholder stillThis is all very cool, but it still doesn't change the fundamental flaw of POO2: It is still POO1 endgame which is absolute dogshit
skipping 0.5
>hi im johnathan, thanks for buying a "free" game
>explore the ocean>too much water
Still has 3x the content that D4 has
Wake me wehn this garbage is out of EA and i can paly the entire fuckign story. Endgame is boring trash.
>>738408980poop2 is bad
LOST ARK
>more currency garbage to force you to buy stash tabsI shant.
Troonathan lied. PoE died.
>vaal temple to coreI wanted this stupid mechanic gone.
>>738410376so is the campaign
>so that's the leaguegay
FINISHTEH ACTS YOU TROONY NIGGERSNO ONE CARES ABOUT ENDGAME GRIND>OMG I HAVE 1% MORE LIGHTING DAMAGE BING BONG WAHOOO!!!!
>>738409472>PoE1 solved the arpg endgame but needed a debloat and rolllback of power creep and less campaign>PoE2 refuses to copy the endgame but goes all in on bloat and powercreep and adds more campaignwhat are they doing lmao
you know these long videos ggg does now really ruins all the discovery with these new season for p2eeverything is spoiled in this video right away, i think its hurting them nowheres another picture of a p2e player
>>738410539anon, they havent announced the other league mechanics
The gameplay just looks so slow.
Hey guys, rememberThis doesn't come out next weekWe gotta wait a month
>>738410574Subhumans like you need to be rounded that and fucking mutilated until death
Absolutely no reason to play this until 1.0
>great wall
>>738410587wtf really???? ... thanks jonathan
>>738410504Jonathan bragged about how he came up with Temple, no way that neckbeard redditor would admit it's dogshit and remove it.
Wont all of this be obsolete in 1.0?lol
>end game rework>its exactly the same
>>738410524Disagree, the campaign has been the best part by far.
>almost 2 years after release>they've added only 1 of the missing acts and only 2 classes
>nemesis systemOH NONONO DONT SUE
>No new weapons>No new classes>"we think we'll have the game released in six months">it's been 1.5 years>the only "melee" is still hammers>hammers suckI 100% grantee you that the real problem behind the scenes is that these braindead fucking retards can't find a way to make melee good which is why they keep releasing more magic and even made spears into another ranged class (melee on spears is dogshit).GGG legitimately deserve to be ground up in a meat grinder and turned into paste.
>atlas treeyawn
>>738410672You are welcomeNow buy some boxes
>>738410816What if the actual problem is that their attempts to make swords and melee ends with them being too strong and they don't know how to nerf them
Can someone explain the mindset of people who play the endgame? I dont get it.When i complete the acts i atleast cna say "Yep, ive beaten the intended journey of the character, time to uninstall". But why continue hours and hours of mindless grind. For what? Hoarding gear...for what? Youve already beaten the game.
WHERE IS THE ENDGAME PATCH?THE ENDGAME IS STILL THE EXACT FUCKING SAMEJONATHAN YOU DISGUSTING FAT FUCK I AM GOING TO FLAY YOU ALIVE
>>738410906nooooooooo loooot boxes!!!!!!!
Am I stupid but are all these endgame "changes" just a bunch of different currencies and nothing they're doing this patch actually changes the core gameplay by adding more classes weapon or real skills?>>738410942For me I always play HCSSF and clear the campaign, then I play endgame a bit and get bored really fast.
>>738410942This is the reason why POO "endgame" is fucking dogshit anonThere is no purposeI get bored of the "endgame" in like 2 or 3 hours
>>738411002The endgame changes is they fucking lied and they changed nothing, the endgame is the same
>>738408980I feel like I stopped playing this 500 years agoHow are they only at 0.5
We get Valheim 1.0 before that , lol
>>738410942endgame in PoE1 has its own set of bosses you can work towards trying to beat, that's the pointafter that everyone does quit or tries a different character. maybe 1% of people keep grinding so they can sell things on RMT marketsas far as PoE2 goes i dont know why anyone would play PoE2 ever
>abyss rework, do 10 maps and you get one abyssal depths
>>738411153they panicked and went back to spending most of their time developing POE1
Anyone understand any of these "endgame" wordslop thus far?
>>738410942I play until I killed the uber bosses, then I quit for the rest of the league and usually skip the next one unless it looks really good.
Endgame got better I like it!Dissapointed that there is no new class, but two new ascendancies is niceMore Uniques hopefully good onesNow we can upgrade uniques also which is nice as well!
THERE WAS NOTHING NEW EXCEPT ENDGAME SLOP FUCK ALL OF YOU
Is the tub half full or half empty?
>>738410370>D4 has Paladins which are built around Sword and Board>PooE2 doesn’t have a holy knight or even swords Yikes!
>/v/ tries to gaslight people into thinking this is the best arpgGenre must be dead like rts.
this announcement fucking sucks
>>7384111536 months since 0.4For this
>>738411339It's liquid shit in the tub either way.
Thank god I didn't pay for this shit
why not just finish basic shit like classes and acts first so average gamer can buy it and beat it, oh right because it's "free" on release...
>>738411186According to you, for the same reasonSee how you are a fucking retard?
>>738411360ARPG has been dead since D3 came out
>>738411417It is free thoughYou just have to wait
WHY DONT THEY DECOPPLE THE ENDGAME ALLTOGETEHR!!!!CAMAPIGN MODEMAPS MODEDONE I JUST SAVED POE2
Just remember: what comes after 0.9 won't necessarily be 1.0. It could be 0.10!
D4 redditors getting filtered HARD right now kek
>>7384115350.010
Okay this new breach mechanic is actually pretty good
>>738411582My Barb carried more melee weapons then Poop2 has total.Kek.
Awww, look whos viewbotting again.
>look guys 1000 new crafting items that all cost like a dozen divs and 99% of the playerbase will never interact with
D4 plebs get filtered. Ton of new content for endgame while D4 is like a few days max and you are done
>no swords (again)
>end game rework>before entire base game is finished>doing seasons/leagues>for a paid "beta"are these guys retarded or what? why are they treating it like it's an actual real fully released game?
>>738411791Let me ask you. Do you want to eat a steak in one sitting or chew on it for 2 weeks while it slowly rots?
>>738411804You lost d4got
>>738408980So I had a lot of fun shitting on poe2 since it launched but this patch looks crazy. Guess I'll have to buy it now.
>food analogies
>>738411851You mean eat some basic cheap noodles for 3 days vs eating a steak every day for 3 or 4 weeks
>>738411852
>>738411791Adding 10000 different currencies is not content anon.
>>738411939Not him; I'd go for the noodles because I don't ever want to get bored of steak.
Casual players perspective here. I have no idea what any of this is or how I'm supposed to approach it should I just skip this league?
>>738412047Skip until they finish the fucking story.
>>738412047Just do what most of the playerbase does, watch a eceleb tell you what to do and follow his guide and 1 shot everything with a build and ignore 99% of the shit Jonathan is making up on the fly in this livestream
>>738410092Char's Deleted Deleted Affair.
>>738412047they've said like 17 times there are whole questlines introducing you to the individual mechanic, you'll probably be fine
>>738412047>ritual, breach, delerium, abyss reworked>they require you to do 10 maps to get to do the one cool thing they each let you do now
>>738412017You wont there is tons of different recipes for Steak many builds and items vs basic noodles that only comes with one flavor but you can always buy a DLC and then you get another flavor of noodles if you like D4
>>738412096>he plays PoE for the storyeveryone point and laugh
>>738412047>casual player>having bought the game instead of waiting in the first placeyou already fucked up bigly
>It's still shitI can continue playing D4
low iq /v/ filtered by the best content update an ARPG has ever hadYou love to see it
>poe2 still pandering to slowbrain boomers who want slowbrain gameplay.yaaaawn *boots poe*
This shit is just pointless content bloat
There's genuinely too much shit I was actually going on but I don't have time to re-familiarize myself with all this.
>>738412170Your analogy has fallen apart. Stop.
Tencent shill thread
>>738412183the poe2 story was a lot of fun its a shame they are taking so long on it
>Endgame rework>No reworkkekThis game is deceased
>alt tab back to muted stream>he still talks about some new passive trees
>>738412332Just go play D4 then this game have way more variety to tinker with which a lot of people like.
>CHALLENGE REWARDSmy fucking dick UOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>statues for challengesWAITTHIS IS ACTUALLY GOOD?
/v/ doomposters in shambles
d4 spiritborne > p2e shitborne
>""""""""""""""""""""""new"""""""""""""""""""" class
>>738412506this is just sad, really patheticyou should go back to marketing school or quitI don’t think you’ll make it
>>738412689>goalpost = moved
>yet another flop patch>end game rework will be shitThey're not even trying are they?
>>738412496But D4 is not noodles, and PoE2 is not fucking steak, you blathering retard.
no duelist no marauder no templar = no login
>>738408980Jesus fucking christ that was garbage, I dont know why I expected more.
>>738412754>food analogy
>>738412754I wasnt the one that started food analogy and D4 is shit compared to POE2 and i dont like cheap noodles.
>all these complaintsMay you be reminded it's EA :^)
got my drops im out
>>738412725You got me anon, i'm a tencent paid shill
>>738412831these >>738411851 >>738411939 idiots started it.
The problem with D4 is there's no feeling of progression. You can clear most anything and clear entire maps on torment 1 with basic ass gear. The point of arpg is to get good gear so you can clear entire maps, what's the point of grinding for gear when you can already do that with basic ass leveling gear?
>>738412987Whats the point of even doing maps when the only reward is a shitty orb or maybe a unique you wont use.Exactly...
>>738412987yeah but its for people who just want to play a little and you barely need any build to clear shit its just basic so its good for noobs. PoE2 is just more fun especially when you learn to make your own builds and vaal the shit out of items
>>738412987>The problem with D4 is there's no feeling of progression. You can clear most anything and clear entire maps on torment 1 with basic ass gear.But poe1fags want poe2 to be like this... and it basically has become
>wasting time to discuss unique items Wow!
>>738413059Maps are fun to push to higher tiers and see how much you can juice them then it becomes stale. One thing about PoE2 though is you're always at risk of randomly dying. In D4 it's basically impossible to die.
>>738413131>when you learn to make your own buildsSorry, you're not playing a dev approved build so your build will be gutted.
HOLY SHIT A CAMPAIGN FAST FORWARD HELPER
YEELLOW PAINTLOOOOOOOLLLL
>>738413208No? i have cleared all pinnacles with my own build and I only played PoE 1 once when i started. There is also tools to help you build not that hard if you like this kind of shit. One thing for sure is my builds are expensive ofc but they are at least mine.
>reworked breach>made it worse
>directions to the next area to speed up progression through multiple campaign play>and its immersively put in-game fitting lorewise tooOkay POE2 just won.
>>738413267it's blatantly not yellow paint you disingenuous fuck.
As i said before.MAKE MAPS A SEPARATE GAMEPLAY MODE
>automatic build guideslmaogood thing I never use build guides or listen to ecelebs for anything
>>738413310>yellow paint is immersive!fucking howling
>even more build handholding so you can shut off your brain completelyWhy even play this game? Just watch your favorite slop streamer.
>heh, atleast I'm not a blizzard pay pig
I thought the idea with poe2 was it was going to be more focused and not as bloated? Why are they adding like 20 different type of currencies and maps and skill trees each update? Who the fuck has time to research all of this crap.
>>738413543they are like on sale every 2 week and you dont need much either to enjoy the game
>>738413454Explain how it's yellow paint when it clearly is the opposite.
>>738413491Just don't use it you fucking moronGod I swear the doomers are really running out of materialAt least stick with the no new class new weapon, why knock the good improvements they're making?
>the next big update is 1.0uh
>>738413828>heres your 1.0 release
>>738413828Wait what?
>>738408980d4won
>1.0 in decemberlol, why even waste time with 0.5 LOOOOOOL
>>738413606If they added all classes, weapons and acts they'd have to let go of the $30 entry fee.Also new currencies = new stash tab sales.Either you play Blizz $40 for each content patch or you pay GGG to not get cancer from stash management.Enjoy, ARPGfag.
swordbros......
they showed the manlet on the couch if anyone missed it
>>738413491>INSTEAD OF OPENING A RANDOM FUCKASS WEBSITE NOW I CAN DO IT INSIDE THE GAME NOOOO I NO LONGER HAVE TO ALT TAB NIGGERMAN SAVE MEHave you thought about making your own builds instead you room temperature IQ having NIGGER
>>738413828there's no way all the classes are gonna be in on 1.0 if that's the case. we're still missing flails, swords and knives.
>NEVER GONNA BE ON THE CARDS >NEVER GONNA BE ON THE CARDS >NEVER GONNA BE ON THE CARDS >NEVER GONNA BE ON THE CARDS
>>738413891>I didn't want 6 months of content pffft.
ok im a diehard poo 2 enjoyer but seriously? no new melee? i wish a whistleblower or insider or whatever would tell us what the fuck is going on over there.
>>738413984forgot axes too
>>738413891For the endgame
>>738413943I would love to make my own if GGG would finally implement an option TO IMMEDIATELY SEE WHAT SUPPORT GEMS WORK WITH WHAT ABILITES INSTEAD OF HAVING TO CHECK THEM ONE BY ONE
>if you spend 100 hours getting RSI and clicking on little pieces of shit, clunky gameplay, and convoluted systems>you could get... an orb of alteration!wow, thanks.
>tee hee a new class was never gonna be on the cards unfortunately ;)THEN WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL THE LITERAL FUCKING REVEAL STREAM TO SAY THAT
>1.0 will be next big update>game is still missing swords, axes, flails, daggers, traps, mines, half the classes and 75% of ascendancieswhat
>assuming people are happy with the endgamejonathan is really fucking up
>>738414117if 1.0 is just the final acts and new classes that might be doable
>>738414117itll release unfinished like all AAA releases and youll need to wait 1-2 years for them to add it inlike crimson desert, where they still probably dont have cloud carts working
This is a joke isn't it?
>>738414101they always begin the showcase of a new league mechanic at the beginning of the campaign.Rewards aren't going to be stellar at level 1. Dishonest shitpost.
So this new league that we'll be stuck in until 1.0 is just rune bloat? Why do I have to learn such a new convoluted system?
>>738414614>>738414101i recent played poe 2 and their shitty season system was giving me orbs within the first like 20 levels
>hype and tease swords>"kek it was just a joke"hopefully chinese gentlemen rape their servers and they get reviewbombed to hell and back
this game is pricing me out now0.1-0.3 was funfelt freshbut theyre adding so much fucking bloatmy head hurts
>>738414675you can probably just ignore it and play the other league mechanics, I've never been a fan of expedition but I'll give it a go, rewards seem decent.
>>738411153D4 has since released two full DLCs btw
>>738412047It is the new endgame and they even give out a fucking questlog, because they now /v/ cant play without handholding.
>>738414675>new convoluted system>learn recipe>click button>fight monsters and get reward
So in 2019, when they said we were getting 7 acts and all the characters and weapons in 2020, how much blatant fucking lying was this?Think about it. The absolute gall to create a conference for your one game, have everyone fly out to be there in person to lie to them to their faces. Promising something you hadn't made yet.Imaging doing that AGAIN. In 2023.IMAGINE FALLING FOR THIS A THIRD TIME.You will get 5 acts and no swords in 1.0. Act6 quietly deleted, Shadow templar quietly deleted. GGG will instead release 1.0 with a Monk reskin and a Warrior reskin and a Merc reskin.>Monk's alt class uses spears>Warriors alt class uses quarterstaves>Merc's alt class uses Bows, strength bowmanWatch it happen. Just watch.
>>738414709>delusional fans see a tuning fork and a ritual sword being prayed to in one trailer>OMG S WORDS CONFIRMEDsounds like a case of the fanbase whipping themselves into a frenzy over nothing
THEGAMEISEARLYACCESSLETTHEMCOOK
>>738414062i don't need an inside scoop to see that shit's fucked
>>738414793You have to understand you're likely responding to a braindead d4 player
>>738414829what about kelly gladposting?
>>738414815Wow I wonder what happened in 2020 which delayed things. Gee whiz must've been big, hmmmm.
>half the skills still gated until you're done with the campaign practically>double down on having retarded shit like lineage supports and tons of uniques with special skills on themit might be unironically truly over this time for realthey just don't want to make a good RPG, they want to make a shitty souls game with tons of bosses where all you do is default attack and rollslop out of stuffgrim
Can someone explain to me why there's so much vitriol and bitterness towards a free game?>but but you need to pay 30 dollars for EAso don't pay it then and just wait until 1.0 when it's free?>but I HAVE TO PLAY IT NOW AND NOT WAITokay so then just get a key off /v/, reddit, twitch, many other places where people are giving out keys as promos or because they're generous>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWhat is this mindset?
>>738414875you mean the meme that outright said "not you" in response to a trailer saying the word champion?
>>738414934GGG is notorious for saying A but lying and making C
>>738414931>he's default attackingsomehow in the game where gems were made idiot proof you found a way to fuck up using them
>>738414996so you're saying they'll blatantly not make 1.0 free?I'll believe it when I see it. For now it's better to assume that it will be free as with PoE1.
>game comes out>everyone praising the longer camapign adn slower game play>any critism is met with "go play poe1 zoomer">few months pass>everyone bitching about the l;onger campaign and slower gameplayThis will never not be funny
https://pathofexile2.com/ancients0.1s vision looked nice a more slower "tactical" fresh take on path of exilewe are back to bloated endgame with absolutely no way for new players to get into the game at all
>>7384149312 more weeks
>>738414934People loved Poe 1People were waiting for Poe 2 which was essentially supposed to be Poe 1.5Developers decided to completely overhaul the gameplay which took a fucking 6 yearsI’m all for it, because the current Poe 2 is far better than what we’d get otherwise
>>738413891So it was true that the classes wont be in 1.0, or the will half ass literally everything missing in the gameWe are missing:-2 entire acts-FOUR classes with their weapons and skills-FIFTEEN ascendancies-The endgame, since they said this is a placeholder and they changed nothing, they only added things on top of a pile of shit
Are you fucking serious 1.0 is next? What are they going to disappoint us with next. 1.0 is going to be half assed isnt it
>>738415020default attack is THE strongest attack throughout the campaign anon
>>738414934this board is full of blizz shills with enormous d2 nostalgia goggles.
>>738414934Wow, the guy youre arguing with seems entirely illogical and crazy with the all caps crying. You certainly are the most logical an reasonable in that interaction
>>738414934>doesn't mention the supporter packsJonathan...
>classes will be missing in 1.0>they will be sold in the shopCalling it now
GGG once again listening to the 1% of 1% no life NEET players
>>738415127at best they think this endgame patch is good enough for launch, and 1.0 will be the missing classes and acts. at worst, they think the endgame patch is enough and we get like 1 class and 1 act, with the rest being post launch.
>>738415139true for mace when I played this piece of shit gameand it's still the only melee weapon what the fuck
>>738415179You don't need to buy those you realize that right? How dumb can you be?
>>738415234its true for every physical weaponcrossbowsbowsthe default attack with 3 support gems rapes the entire campaign
>>738415139I don't think that's true, at least not for every class. >>738415234Monk has Quarterstaves too but yeah the melee pool is small.
>>738414934/v/ BTFO
HAHAHAHAHAANOTHER ABSOLUTE SHIT SHOW0/10 GAMEPOE2 STILL BADPOE2 STILL DOGSHIT
>The endgame is trash because it's the same meaningless map spam as in POO1>WE ARE GOING TO FIX IT IN THE NEXT PATCH>ACTUALLY NO>WE ARE GOING TO FIX IT IN THE NEXT PATCH>ACTUALLY NO>WE ARE GOING TO FIX IT IN THE NEXT PATCH>Actually in 0.5>Actually we just added currency bloat and a couple bosses like in every league we have ever made and we didn't even make a new act so we don't know why this took 6 months to make
are you poeshills being paid to lie out of your asses or are you genuinely this delusional?
>>738415179>REEEE the F2P game isn't allowed to make money with optional cosmetic content!!!Gettin sick of you broke ass thirdies.
>>738415339What's so shitshowy about it?No new class or weapon or act?What about all the other changes they added? Why just dismiss those?
>>738410276they actually stole last epochs endgame, which explains a lot about how shitty it is
>>738415384How about you first explain where the hell the lie is here?>>738414934
>>738408980>POE2 0.5Is it finally as good as 1?
>>738415453You are criminally retarded. Every game dev in the world experienced slowdowns on content creation.
>>738415521its the same game just better graphics animations wasd and roll
/v/irgins who were posting during launch day with all the threads were dropping keys like candy. If you didn't snatch one up then and are still seething about it, sucks to suck
So .5, the nothing patch, will last 6 months?
why do the devs keep showing the game off with melee? It's like they are pretending melee is any good at all
>>738415521YeahMeaning it fucking sucks
>>738415351>>The endgame is trash because it's the same meaningless map spam as in POO1no it was trash because it was basically RNG if you would find the things you needed on the atlas to challenge the harbinger of ass. this new system seems to add actual objectives to it outside of just looking for citadels, which is a welcome change I think.
My main issue is, there is so much new endgame stuff, and I didn't even get to the old endgame often enough that I care about the new additions.I was more concerned with content that was even fun until we reached the endgame. I burned out in the middle of Act 3 four times now, as my build and gameplay were not fun, not scaling, or not viable.I reached endgame two times so far and dropped it shortly after. I mean, maybe the new additions will fix this, but I don't see a reason to even start playing now, as there isn't something I want to push to endgame.
>>738414934blizzdrones gonna drone
I think this might have been the worst case scenario.Basically, the infinite atlas is fucking awful but they put it into the game in 0.1 to try to give the game some kind of end game. Ever since then they've been trying to "fix" it instead of simply making a new one. A good example is if you built a house and it was rickety, filled with builder quality parts, was missing important features, and overall was unpopular. But unfortunately you just rented out the place to a family and you now have to just try to sort of fix the house instead of really rebuilding it like it needs to be.Every single league has undergone the SAME changes now:>Meet an NPC>Do the league mechanic a few times>Do the bigger version of the league mechanic>Fight the boss>Also we added like 10000 new currencies to the gameAs someone who LIKES PoE2 but does not LOVE it, this is clearly the result of a rushed 0.1 that has spiraled into this. Gonna be honest man, doing 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 fucking quest lines every league to fully max out this shit is not gonna work. People complained about the end game quest of PoE1 forever and it is literally minimally invasive and was clearly built around the gameplay, not the other way around. Now imagine having to do a questline for blight and ultimatum and legion and synthesis and whatever other mechanic they port over.
who gives a shit about all this when there is still no new weapons and new classes to fuck around with this game still doesn't have DAGGERS get a fucking grip
>>738415715bot broke
>>738415775>. Now imagine having to do a questline for blight and ultimatum and legion and synthesis and whatever other mechanic they port over.It what people wanted because otherwise they said it was too aimless
>>738415445nta but you basically have to pay into either PoE for stash tabs to not have a horrible time in the endgame. it's F2P but really is more Free to Try, but any kind of committed play requires at the very least, the Currency stash tab and the merchant stash tab if you want to engage in player trading. Map tab is also super nice, but it's horseshit that the map tab and fragment tab are separate things, there's literally no reason for it other than extracting more MTX from players.
>>738415775I really don't care about the context or the goals why we kill stuff and collect loot, as long as my build scales, makes meaningful power increases, and is fun and frictionless to play and does not fucking die all the time.
>>738415775>Gonna be honest man, doing 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 fucking quest lines every league to fully max out this shit is not gonna workso don't do all the mechanics man. the whole point of the wealth of endgame mechanics is that you pick and choose what you're gonna do. you doing EVERYTHING every league in PoE1?
>>738416119I don't think you presented any arguments, you just ranted about trannies. Did your surgery not go well?
>just bought because I had nothing else to do>bloat update announced ah, I shouldnt have done that, I guess
>>738415941No you don'tJust play SSFHC
Too much bloat, ive stopped at endgame most of the previous leagues now its just too much to handle
>>738408980>2 ascendanciesbut missing class are nowhere to be seen>more endgame shit that nobody cares about but act 5lol, this game is fucked , it's unreal
>>738416335holy fucksee>>738416089why are all of you such fucking idiotsJust play the fucking game your way
>>738416316I'm sure you and the one other guy playing that will have a great time
>>738416389I can't because they won't add Templar for some reason even though it was supposed to come out in, what, 0.3 along with Druid?
>>738416416Why so disingenous?The point of HCSSF is to just play by yourself because it's option availablenot everyone wants to trade economies and depend on other players
>>738415689no
>>738415775This is what I have been saying since the first fucking patch came outTHEY THEMSELVES said this endgame was a placeholder, but they... kept the placeholder and keep piling stuff on top of a pile of shit? WHY
Bruh
>>738416089>>738416389In PoE1, I can very easily decide to become a full blightchad at a moment's notice if I want. In PoE2 it is like you have to go grind out the questline for it first. That is a minor annoyance compared to the second part.The PROBLEM is that PoE2 is designed to have less agency in the end game. What I mean by that, is you explore an infinite atlas, cannot choose layouts, and for the most part deal with what league mechanics are there. PoE1's atlas tree + scarabs basically lets you remove everything from a map but the one or two things you want.Mark and Jonathan want an endgame where you explore the atlas, find cool shit, and do it. I don't want to have to do a questline for a league mechanic because the infinite atlas is now offering me some super delirium zone>Then just ignore it lolJust ignore the whole purpose of the game? Every league mechanic gets its own passive tree to avoid you speccing into only legion or only blight and running only that. They want you to do everything.
>>738416469>The point of HCSSF is to just play by yourself because it's option availablecorrect, and it's also a small minority of the players who play like this. nobody is jumping into PoE and running a HCSSF as their first character, it's what more experienced players do when they're bored of trade. And even then you're still going to want currency and map tabs because otherwise you will run out of room FAST.
>>738408980>POE2What game is that?
After playing Diablo 4 I am not interested in playing Path of Exile 2 again simply because I don't want to see dropped gear that I have LITERALLY no use for. The last thing I heard about the solo mode in PoE2 is that it literally does nothing to solve this and you're just playing the same game, but without a trade button which is retarded.
>>738416389>Just play the fucking game your wayi would if i had a clear goalbut im getting punched in the face with 50 different mechanicseach having their own currencymost of them i have got to google or watch a 2 hour explanation video to even grasp the idea of what they do
>>738416335>I play ARPGs for the story!retarded
>>738416607>Just ignore the whole purpose of the game?I mean they point out each mechanic is kind of on it's own direction in the atlas now, if you don't want to do delirium don't explore that side of the atlas. The ocean is straight south of the start of the atlas, don't want to do expedition? go north.
>>738416756Learn to read
>>738416469You're acting as if HCSSF somehow made solo play more accessible, but you just limit yourself.It also encourages hoarding even more, because you can't just sell shit you currently don't need and obviously can't buy it back either.
>>738408980After playing Diablo 4 I am not interested in playing Path of Exile 2 again simply because I don't want to see dropped gear that I have LITERALLY no use for. The last thing I heard about the solo mode in PoE2 is that it literally does nothing to solve this and you're just playing the same game, but without a trade button which is retarded.
>>738416659what? You dont use filter or console plebs dont have it?
>>738416860your loot filter?
>>738416860>I don't want to see dropped gear that I have LITERALLY no use for.Use a loot filter you casual pleb.
>>738416908Are you a stupid retard?
swordcucks going to ACK themselves before 1.0
>>738416958just use lootfilter blizztroon
>>738416785>Too much bloat, ive stopped at endgameSo you stopped after you finished the story and didn't play 80% of the game. Again, you are retarded.
>A whole bunch of end-game bosses and mechanic reworksMeanwhile>Missing weapons>Missing half the campaign>Missing classes>Missing ascendanciesUsually, when you're building a house, you don't start with the fucking roof.
This endgame seems like the same shit we already played before. I don't understand what is fundamentally so different.
>>738416937The point is that the useless gear dropped at all, you fucking retard. In Diablo 4 the gear is not even in the loot pool for me. When it drops it takes away from gear that could possibly be useful. In Diablo 4 there is no nonsense like affixes that increase rarity of gear found so I can find more gear while I find more gear. Why have this shit even in the game?
>>738417215>The point is that the useless gear dropped at allOk so the first drop you should get is Mageblood in the starting area, just remove all the other belts in the game because they're not as good as Mageblood. How does that make the game better again that you instantly get OP gear?
>>738417169I like that there is a direction now what you can do? I didn't like that it was all random before now it feels more immersive, I will do abyss and rituals first and complete them first for sure. They added some tower also which seemed nice but we wont know until we played ofc
>>738416782now the natural problem with this is in the longrun, how do you split up the atlas once we have loads more mechanics? perhaps we get some control over the infinite atlas like we have with the atlas tree in PoE1, where you can weigh mechanics harder than others to effectively filter out stuff you don't want to do. but for this version of the tree this will probably be fine, but probably can't last once we really start layering endgame mechanics
>>738417378>how do you split up the atlasIts Delve so its easy. You already have to go and look for Breaches, which don't have a clear direction they're just randomly spread across the area.
D4 won bigly
BIG SHIT
>>738416860PoE is now fundamentally about wasting your time to keep Engagment up so they can keep the chinese shareholders happy.
>>738418001Name the video game that is not a waste of time.
POE2 = BAD
POE2 IS FOR LOSERS, TRANNIES AND FAGGOTSLOL LOL LOLSHIT GAME
>>738414934>>738414934>>738414934
>>738418096Time-wasting mechanics in video games are design elements that extend playtime without adding meaningful gameplay or narrative value, often perceived as artificial bloat.Common examples include repetitive fetch quests, unskippable cutscenes that must be replayed after boss failures, slow traversal or forced walking segments, tedious crafting animations, and excessive backtracking with limited fast-travel options. Critics argue these features are "booty game design" intended to artificially inflate game length, drain player resources, or force engagement with grinding loops that detract from the core fun. The counter-argument (such as yours) that all video games are a waste of time typically stems from a perspective that views gaming as inherently unproductive compared to real-world activities. Proponents of this view, often found in communities focused on quitting gaming, argue that games are "Skinner boxes" designed for mind-numbing reinforcement schedules rather than genuine artistic or intellectual engagement. You contend that even if a specific mechanic is well-designed, the overall activity pauses real life and offers diminishing returns, making the time spent on any game—regardless of its internal design quality—a net loss compared to other leisure activities like film or novels. Essentially, you cannot perceive the difference between good game mechanics in a short game that is engaging and and skinner box time waste slop.
this game is only on 0.5? i bought it at launch cause everyone was hyping it up and it was so ass, i thought i was having a psychosis episode with how everyone was tonguing this game's anus
>Reused content>Reused content straight from PoE1>Minor change>New uniques noone will ever useAmazing.
>>738418326I aint readin allat
>>738417169The big changes are like:>Questlines for you to follow so at least at the start you're just not "lol pick a direction and run">Every mechanic got reworked>Tons of new rewards from the mechanics>New pinnacle bossesBasically, it IS the same fundamental end game of put in a waystone in an infinite atlas and then clear the map. It is just 'better' because there is more and the league mechanics aren't just poorly ported PoE1 ones now (other than breach lol).
>>738418412I've never found use for a single unique in PoE2 while every unique in D4 is a different build.
>>738418552Thats because you're a brainlet.
D4 is simply the better ARPG. Then again, poop2 isn't really an ARPG at all.
Yeah d4 won
>>738409089>>738409018>>738409368lol all wrong
>the normalfags love itits over
poe fans are battered wivesmore threatened by every (true) criticism, no response but increasingly shrill and hysterical excuses and insults
>>738418326Not reading your ChatGPT slop.
>>738418552my skeleton army witch I played this current season is wearing 3 uniques, a ring, a shield and some boots. Ring: Evergrasping RingShield: Prism GuardianBoots: Boots of Ullrthat said yeah there's a bunch of useless ones, but I feel like that's always the case for items with unique effects in these games.
>>738419232the endgame stuff does look good it just really is a bummer that we're not getting a new class on top of this being the last EA update. 1.0 has to be jam packed with new classes otherwise it's launching without some weapon types
>>738419551I read it and it was concise. Basically shuts down any argument you could possibly have
>>738417106You're right, but there's a very very VERY loud community screaming about the endgame, even though most people don't even reach it.
>>738408980Armor evasion and life fixed yet?
>>738419936here's hoping, but they didn't say anything during the showcase about balance changes. might've during the Q&A but I skipped out on that
>>738408980>martial artist monk revealed >after the complete monkey paw of hollow palm monkI'm still 20 minutes on o the stream, but please tell me they're overhauling unarmed monk with proper martial arts skills
>>738420075LMAO
>>738420107goddamn it jonathan, quarterstaff is the laughing stock of monk archetypes, and the worst part is that CLAWS WERE RIGHT THERE
d4 good
>>738408980i've tried poe2 but it's not as fun as poe1
>>738420276>he wanted another weapon added to the gameanon the way we're moving 1.0 is gonna be missing any combo of swords, axes, flails and daggers. Monks are stuck with staves. wouldn't be so bad if the staff was just on your back while you did kung fu shit though
is d4 actually good? its on sale, i see. is the loot actually fun (unlike poe2)?
>>738420396new expac seems alright according to friends who are still blizzcucks but it's still D4.
>>738420396Wouldn't know, it could be the best game the genre will ever see but I'm not giving Blizzard any more of my money.
sisters, retreat to the 'cord for new instructions
>>738420396base game classes they locked skill trees behind paywall also some of them were skills that existed before expansionreally scummy shit, so i refunded and got my money back
>>738418096for me, it was age of empires 2, deus ex and diablo 2 to help me learn english and develop an unhealthy obsession with ancient/medieval weaponry and ayys.
>>738420396It's the best ARPG on the market by far
>1.0 will be missing basic weapon types and some classes i guess thats one way to do it, unfinished slop is what cucks love
I havent played this garbage since it released in 2024, does the skill tree still have nodes on it you can't even use because the corresponding staple ARPG weapons aren't implemented?
>>738420859yes, and it's looking like unless they drop 4 classes in the 1.0 update those nodes will still be unusable even on release.
>Whiners scream about an endgame rework>We get an endgame rework>They now complain that it isn't what they wantedI'm disappointed that they still have at least 3-4 weapons left to add but the game as it exists currently looks to be a million times more fun to play.
why bother with more endgame stuff when leveling is an abysmal dogshit experience ?
>>738420859>>738420914What's taking them so long? This has been in development hell for like 7 years. I thought they sold out to Tencent to ramp up development.
>>738420943it'll depend entirely on execution, worst case it's the same as the current atlas map, but now instead of just hunting for citadels you'll be hunting for specific league mechanics. but on paper it looks promising
>>738421000>What's taking them so long?split dev focus between this and PoE1 probably. but I imagine the start of development was screwed over thanks to BIG VIRUS. but yeah no class at all this patch is kind of wild, especially since this will be the last EA league
GGG died in 2021. Whatever they became, it's not the same as what made poe1 great.
>>738421023Personally I like the randomness and endless nature of the atlas map, before this coming update it absolutely needed a fuckton of work but the idea for it hits me right in the fun gland. I love the idea of exploring a world map instead of doing everything through a menu. What they seem to have done was allow league mechanics to alter the map itself, which is what I was hoping for, now it isn't just augments to nodes but actual visible feature changes to the world map.The set spawn points for each league mech are going to help too, now the casual players will have a better idea of what to do when the story content ends.
>>738421174Yeah I wish I could join a 3.14 with Harvest disabled private server. That was peak poe.
>>738421212yeah it looks promising, and at least in the case of the league mechanic you'll know exactly where it is because the entire southern part of the map is pure ocean. knowing my luck though I'll be looking for breaches and never find them, but we'll see.
>>738421212>>738421023I forgot to mention yeah you are right, we're going to have to see how they lay these league mechs on the world map once you leave the set starting zone. I still want to see more ways to interact with the map, ways to jump nodes, travel distances, that kind of shit.
Notice how /v/ doesn't have any real arguments against this or answers for this>>738414934
>>738421691how could you be so desperate for attention when you already have so many (you)s anon? you little glutton you
the unique and ascendancy skills they've been doing are really cool, i was really excited about all that the most from the reveal - but it only makes the skill gem situation even more dire. not only are they so limited, but they are 80% boring shit no one wants to use.it's ok if they want classes and uniques to be more, well, unique. but i don't think skill gems should be SO dull.
>>738418096To clarify myself, I belive there is a difference between wasting time playing a game and a game that has been speficially designed to maliciously waste your time like PoE 2.
>>738419936Armor + Life + Block is a perfectly fine defensive set up in PoE2 as long as you get some of the "% Armor applies to Elemental damage", it is really easy to get like 150-200% with some passive notables + suffixes on gear. >t. Played a thorns warrior in abyss and only died to bugged enemy skills (when they got patched I stopped dying)
>>738420396No, not really. I would only consider D4 "Good" if you're a turbo casual for ARPGs. That is fine, by the way, I am not even being an asshole. However, if you really want something with any depth, it is not the game for you. The game has very little build depth and ultimately, due to how Blizzard constructed loot, you basically find a piece of armor that is like:>Life>Damage with bleeding>+Dex>Increased crit chanceAnd you literally just find better versions of that same piece of gear and equip it. Every class essentially builds by just finding the relevant damage modifiers (bleed damage for bleed builds. Fire damage for fire builds, etc) and then whatever stat your class scales with (Str, Dex, Int, etc) and then life. Loot is extremely boring and the crafting introduced in the new expansion (which you have to buy to get access to) is super basic and needs to be expanded like 10 fold.
>>738420943The problem is that the infinite atlas is dogshit and adding more shit onto it doesn't work. It is a procedurally generated map in an ARPG that is about clearing them as fast as possible. The game is not Isometric Elden Ring as much as Jonathan dreams about that.Basically, I think GGG is trying to make the best possible version of the infinite atlas, and while endgame will absolutely be better in 0.5, it is still not what I or many people actually want. Getting the best version of the thing you don't want is better than a bad version of the thing you don't want though.
>>738421912it's fine but I do wish it was easier to stack life. you only really have STR nodes as it is, and if you're taking titans blood for the ability to one hand a two hander you're cutting down the life you get from STR by a quite a bit.
>>738421212The problem anon is just that the game is not designed around you looking around this map and being wowed by some incredible thing you came across. By virtue of it being an ARPG it will just be unique maps, random league mechanic modifiers, and nothing that is truly incredible. You're never gonna come across some cave that rewards a sick ass sword like in ER. You're going to find a map that is moderately to majorly more juiced, or a boss, and then kill it and go to the next map.Also, one issue with the infinite atlas is that too many of the map layouts are awful and just annoying to play through. It sucks when you wanna just chill out and blast some maps and you get like 3 dogshit layouts in a row on your way to a chunk of good looking areas.
>>738420396yeah, every patch pay $40 for new skills and classes.The $40 class you bought last patch now has a new paywalled skill that you'll want to pay to accesscome to the infinite pit bro
>>738422104that's my main issue with diablo 4, even after the expansion. I have fun for the first few days, but gear is so utterly boring that I quickly lose interest and can't keep playing longer than a week. I'll probably play 0.5 for months.
>>738422801Yeah, D4 has not solved loot at all. Most of the time posts on /v/ are hyperbolic shit, but I am not doing that. They keep adding ways to change certain mods or craft a bit, but they fail to realize that:>Life>Damage>Stat>Defense/DamageBeing on every piece of gear you own and then just replacing every piece of gear with ones that have the same affixes but larger is boring as fuck.
>>738422104it is casual, or accessible is a better word in some cases, but itemization and gearing is much better than that imo. what you describe is more just for levelling. once you are max level i like the clear route to gearing and crafting. your "big" slots ie head/chest/legs you stack toughness - life, resists, armor. then you turbo stack offence pretty much everywhere, but you won't really be looking for main stat (though its sort of unavoidable on most slots), instead you layer different types of multiplication; vuln, crit, [type], +skill level etc. and then a couple of slot specific things maybe like atkspeed on gloves and movespd on boots. then on top of that you have imprints, tempering, masterwork, enchanting, gem/rune slots, and now deterministic crafting with the Cube. if crafting was as clear, accessible, and deterministic in PoE2, it's not like you'd be a million miles away. there's really not much on 80% of builds right now except crit, life, resists, +gem level, and [type] damage. it's just way fucking harder to understand an item's power, and obtain it. whilst in D4 its a breeze to get functionally near perfect items and you understand it easier.
What an absolute shitshow.They basically confirmed there won't even be a new class or weapon type in 1.0 because they will just be polishing what they have.
>>738415768Is this guy >>738415719A blizzdrone you fucking moron, tencent shill ?He brings up the biggest problem this game has that will drive away 99% of the player baseMarketing does not win wars shill faggots. Having the better product does.
>>738415984Then this is clearly not the game for that.Also you are 100% correct about how a good arpg should. However, Poe 2 is the exact opposite.
>>738415984In fact I am gonna save this post and repost everytime this topic comes up. It is a perfect summary of the main goals these games should have.
>>738419936They mentioned it during the Q&A but they just said they're pumping numbers on AR + EV and raw EV gear.
>>738423552Actually Jonathan said swords will be in 1.0 at least. We might not get anything ELSE but we're getting swords at least.
>>738410816Bleed Spear, which was melee was good for all of five minutes. It was heavily nerfed within days. No idea if it's still just as bad though, that was months and months ago.
>>738410695It's a seasonal game, obsolescence is a built in core part of the game and doesn't matter
>>738421767It's not attention. It's demanding an answer.Why so much hate for a free game that isn't even out yet?
>>738424408well 1, it's not free quite yet. it will be, but currently is not. and 2, where do you think we are?
>>738423552I imagine we'll be getting the rest of the classes with 1.0 which means swords and flails >>738424041>bleed gets gutted>the movement stomps with rake get guttedthanks for making another dead skill guys you're really making the game more fun better get on a rhoa for the third league in a row
>>738424484It's free if you get a key
>>738424484it's free if you've spent as much as I have on MTX for PoE1
The entirety of early access will have had no swords or duelist. lol.
>>738424636many things can be free if you are gifted them>>738424669>it's free if you've spent a bunch of moneylol
Which arpg(s) actually have good end game?
>>738424881Diablo 4
>>738424939Please don't yank my balls I might fall for it
>>738424939d4 has good end game in the sense that you play it and immediately end the game
Wait no new class or swords? What the fuck?
>>738424881D2
>>738425446This DII has the best endgame of any APRG, followed closely by Diablo IIII.
>>738422550>the game is not designed around you looking around this map and being wowed by some incredible thing you came across.It is, and this patch did a much better job of making that a reality.>too many of the map layouts are awful and just annoying to play throughNo they aren't, they are all generic fucking circles and even the triggers for completing the map are always visible you weak little bitch. No anon, normal people don't want to chill and second monitor PoE while they vibe clear the same map 400 times, get over it.
>>738424881I like PoE1's endgame now that I sort of have an idea of what I'm doing. D3's endgame is the most straight forward in being the loot treadmill though. LE's is...alright. I don't love being asked to do all the monoliths again but the gear and build crafting is probably one of the more beginner friendly options out there, easiest game to do a solo self found challenge in. I can't speak for D4, I played a bit of the campaign on gaypass and I wasn't a fan so I dropped it.
Looks like complete garbage, who asked for 30 billion new breach/deli/ritual/expedition mechanics? How does this fix end-game at all? You still have to do maps right? What the fuck? Did they just copy paste the existing stuff from poe 1?
>>738425816anyone who second monitors poe is a pathetic softcuck and their opinions can be safely discarded>>738426118>How does this fix end-game at all? You still have to do maps right?if that was your main problem with the endgame then this may not be the game for you
This has to be the most successful negative marketing campaign ever. Blizzard (I assume it was them) really managed to deflate the hype of their competition's biggest patch ever by posting the word "sword" 1000 times.It's a perfect example of why the market is a flawed method of determining the value of things. Not that PoE2 is or ever has been good, but seriously lmao, probably tens of thousands of man hours wasted because some intern at a different company shitposted about a sword in a teaser trailer.Great argument to never ever do teaser trailers too.
>>738426889You give Blizzard too much credit. GGG launched a game that lacks the most basic weapon known to man for two years. They did it all to themselves.That is why they pushed back this reveal, to avoid the d4 expansion launch because they knew they had nothing to show.
Kneel
Do you still need to buy stash tabs to enjoy the game?
>>738427313nah
>>738426214>if that was your main problem with the endgame then this may not be the game for youThanks for your contribution TenCent shill but if you'd actually play the game you'd realise the issue with end-game is that it's just a bunch of hastily slapped together mechanics from poe 1. This update is still that, just more of it.
>Here's another shitty league mechanic we slapped onto the campaign where it doesn't fit aesthetically>It's got this ugly menu that pops up>If you interact with the menu, YOU GET AN ORB OF AUGMENTATIONwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow *clap clap clap*amazing 10/10 mobile phone gameplay GGG you've done it again!
>>738427963You should speak like a normal person
>>738424881PoE1 mogs every other ARPG so hard it is kind of annoying, actually. I am not a PoE1 fanboy by any means and could write a novel criticizing it, but yeah I mean it is a game that has been getting updates for like 12 years or some shit.
>>738425816No, anon, the layouts are garbage.
>>738426889Okay dude, when this has like 300k concurrent players or something I'll be sure to remember your brilliant post.
>>738427963Mechanic looks good in maps, but it does look stupid for campaign. Doing an entire combat to get one augment is like a joke. In maps the actual end game crats look sweet as fuck.
>>738425446>>738425512> I think I'll run baal for the 1000th time today or maybe mephisto
>>738427151No, you're giving Blizzard too much credit. It's not some brilliant marketing masterstroke. It's some guys in India shitposting on reddit with a few dozen accounts. There's probably one single Blizzard employee who even knows they exist, they just contracted an outside marketing firm and don't care about the details. This is every day shit in the marketing world. This is why the world sucks.
>>738428167>Mechanic looks good in mapsNo, it doesn't! Maps are just inane vehicles for a series of shitty gacha minigames (now menu surfers) and they've leaned even harder into it instead of reworking it like they said they would.
>>738428056Then I wouldn't be a poe player
>>738428167getting one currency orb looks good to you? You just get some unique essence or some bullshit after waiting out 5 fucking waves of mobs. It's absolute trash
>>738410942Campaign is the tutorial, endgame is the game.
>>738411804Path of Exile is the "endgame" ARPG, anon.
>>738408980Do you yanks hear how robotic these cunts sound when they announce shit or is it just what you think the kiwi accent sounds like?It's so painful and unnatural to my ears.
>>738412047It's go over there, kill monsters, pick up what they drop. If you can figure out that much then you're already 80% of the way.
>>738429324The mobs drop loot and are effected by the craft to drop even more. Did you listen? Yes, adding waves of juiced monsters to end game maps is good, the potential end game crafts/money uniques are the icing on the cake.
>>738429554They're reading from a script. They sound totally fine during the Q&A.>Developer nerds who literally code the game and aren't just executives are not the best at reading a scriptoh the huge manatee...
>>738414934It a type of game that attracts schizos and autists and has done so for over a decade with its prequel. Some of them holding grudges over balance changes most people don't even remember anymore.
>>738429676basic mobs in poo2 drop literally nothing. Only rares drop currency. Even with the "bonus" drop chance you'll get fuck all. They even fucking demonstrated an end game encounter for you and all that dropped was some verisium.
>>738423779The fuck are you talking about? You don't have to respond.
>>738429731They could maybe practice. Every time it's like this. It's like a school speech. It's embarassing.
>>738417106>why are the building the house when they don't have all the furniture yet that's dumb, Clea.
>>738428123Why would it?
>>738418552If you can't figure out what to do with a headhunter then that's something you could get government assistance for.
>>738429554They're actual developers, not media trained marketing drones.
>>738427151>GGG launched a game that lacks the most basic weapon known to manwhat are you talking about spears are in the game
>>738430442I think you mean clubs
>>738408980I swear this studio is Arrowhead but worst.>make a game as unfun as possible>players figure out a build/style that makes the game fun>nerf it into the ground so the game is an unfun slogIt's like all they want to make it PoE1 Ruthless and don't understand why that fucking blows.
>>738430540eh I dunno I feel like pointy stick beat out big club, mostly because rock filled the role of club.
>>738428313But Uber Tristram is badass
>>738428592As I said, two years without swords and a series of asanine decisions and mechanics. They did it themselves and deserve the worst.They should assume some responsibility at least.
>>738430630>but worstretard
I'm skipping .5 until 1.0I'll just play some PoE1 in the meanwhileWhat do I need to know before getting into that again for the first time in over 10 years?
>>738429842It is pretty clear what I mean. The things you describe simply do not happen in Poe 2.If you wrote that post implying that you can do those things in Poe 2 and thus you are ok and don't need anything else, then you have either not played the game or you are retarded.Feel free to not reply.
>>738430153They are clearly neither judging by the their output.
>>738430442Spears are for hunting smartass.
>>738430442>>738430540>>738430687Clubs and spears are not weapons morons.What are you gonna argue about next, bows, stones and slings?If these tools were enough, swords and knives would have never been created.Plus stone knives are older than spears, clubs, bows and any other retarded shit you are going to come up with next. And guess what, knives are not in the game either.
D4 unironically won.
Diablo 4 is looking really tempting right now. Am I about to make a $70 mistake?
>>738432785>clubs and spears are not weaponslol
>still no fucking swords in this shitheap of a gameabsolutely insane
I've never been so unhyped for a league before, this sucks especially after last league was so shit. I don't even have faith in 1.0 anymore.
>>738408980>0.5Just HOW Early access was it?imagine being a millionaire company charging 300+ dollars for shitty cosmetics and still having the nerve to "sell" access to your future f2p game in early access
>>738433867at least you get that 30 bucks in funny money to spend on the stash tabs you need to not have a horrible time once the campaign is over. still sucks but I least I got a game out of the deal
>>738432454Well?
>>738432873It's the best ARPG on the market.
>>738434846TQ2 exists
>>738434846>10 rupees have been deposited in your account.
>>738427963this convoluted crap is whats wrong with half of modern gamesno i do not want to spend half the fucking game in menus trying to think about recipes and ratios and how to maximize my actual gameplay time to take advantage of these arbitrary objects instead of just having funIM SO TIRED OF MENU SLOPENTIRE GAMES COME OUT PRETENDING TO BE ABOUT DRIVING, OR EXPLORING SPACE, AND ITS LITERALLY JUST MENU SIMULATOR SLOP WHERE YOU HAVE TO MANAGE COUNTLESS RESOURCES IN MENUSFUCK OFF WITH THIS SHIT YOU LAZY FUCKING NIGGERS. THIS IS NOT GAMEPLAY
>0.5Wasn't this shit supposed to come out a year ago?
>>738433952Buddy, the game will be free, you played yourself
>>738436257Trvke.
>no new acts>no new classes>no swordsD4 won so hard poo2 babs are gonna 41% xhemselves
>>738436392I was gonna pay in anyway, PoE1's endgame with no stash tabs blows ass, my first league was breach and I dropped it instantly once I hit the endgame because the base storage is so shit. Currency and Map tabs are basically mandatory, same with the merch tab if you want engage in player trading. The game is "free" to play but any pretense of that goes out the window once the campaign is over. I got early access to a game I've played 200 hours of so far and the stash tabs I wanted to make those 200 hours in PoE2 and 300 hours in PoE1 I have not blow ass. I've paid more money for a shorter time in one game.
>>738415423Pochs endgame is more fun despite Last Epoch being a worse game.
>>738432873Pick D4 if you want to play an ARPG for 10s of hours, pick PoE(2) if you want to play an ARPG for 100s of hours.
>>738436392PoE is not a free game, it's a $30-45 game with an extremely generous demo.
>>738436343Pretty sure people just made that release date up for themselves.
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree PoE is one of the worst sequels ever made?
>>738436772what exactly is diablo 4 winning at? having more barren wasteland environments to slay generic boring enemies in?
>>738436343>>738437094GGG said that early access would be at least 6 months so they technically never lied about when it was supposed to launch even if it is scummy
Imagine caring about swords in a game series where melee has historically been dogshit 90% of the time.
>>738436850>>738436392to further expand on this, if you want to say, craft a 6 link using the crafting the bench you need 1500 fusing orbs, that is OVER half of one your stash tabs of just fusing orbs. you have 4 stash tabs, and one eighth of those tabs is being taken up by ONE currency. the game basically forces you into paying in with shit like this. I didn't get a fragment tab so one of my stash tabs is dedicated almost entirely to splinters, scarabs and fragments. there just is not enough storage by default, and that's how they get you.
>>738437394Anon, I don't give a fuck about the melee skills, I just want to shoot laser beams out of it.
>>738437520anon it's PoE2, skills are tied to weapon class for martial classes. it'd be all melee flavored stuff for the most part
>>738437554Give me Lightning Sword NOW.
>>738436257>no i do not want to spend half the fucking game in menus trying to think about recipes and ratios and how to maximize my actual gameplay time to take advantage of these arbitrary objects instead of just having funBrainpower issue. Theorycrafting and optimizing is best part of these games, if you have the IQ for it.
>>738437647Peak midwit talk right here.
>>738437647if i want to use my brain ill play puzzle or (real) simulation games and actually have fun not some carrot on a stick game that makes you think if you just grind and collect more youll finally have actual funi thoroughly enjoy games like diablo 2 or poe to an extent but POE gets boring as fuck with all the convoluted crap in the later end it expects me to manage, i just cant
>>738438250buddy you're the one who's acting like the game is some unsolvable puzzle, I started playing LAST YEAR and I can come up with ok builds by myself. I made a holy hammers build in Mirage and it was fun. it's pretty easy to figure out >ok I need more bulkor>I need more crit chance
>>738437215but enough about poo2
>>738415931If that's the 'people' who still play this game then the playerbase and devs deserve each other.
>>738437215do not engage the indian interns
>>738429731>>738430153>they're actual developersYou dumb fucks. So they should be able to talk about the game fluidly and not sound like Joe biden reading a script he has no idea about
>>738437482It's funny you pointed out this fact because I've heard many poe ass lickers saying the entire game can be done with just those 4 tabs.But realistically you can do the campaign & a bunch of maps no problem and if you like the game then buy a supporter pack..Idk if they still do it but "first blood supporter pack" used to be £20 and came with a few tabs along with rmt coins to buy currency tab.People spend thousands of hours in poe so a £30 support pack every few months isn't a bad deal. I've spent around 350 and gotten 11k+ out of it, I'd say I've got my moneys worth unlike most 60 quid games that are a one time deal 10 hours of linear slop
Poo2 is redditD4 is 4chan
>>738440548my limit for F2P games at the highest is 50, I'll probably put another 20 in and get stuff like the fragment and card tabs, spend whatever is left over on an armor set or something. I imagine you COULD play the game without any tabs, it'd just be a very miserable experience overall.
>>738438287>i just cantYeah, we get it. Maybe something like tic tac toe will be more your speed.
>>738440650I'd say buying mtx armour or hideout is a big mistake unless it comes free with the supporter pack. Use your rmt for more stash tabs, you can never have enough especially if you play ssf and begin hoarding items.Also lmao at mtx prices Holy shit.. Oh look wings only 480 rmt coins which is £48! Wtf!They give you coins so it doesn't feel like you're spending real money, Chris Wilson talked about this being dark patterns which is ironic cus he implemented that shit.As each year passes it's clear poe is becoming more n more of a cash grab, mobile slop type shit like kingsmarch so you have to log in and check mappers etc though Mirage is kino and i think that kinda happened by mistake, I'm actually surprised they didn't patch the league to nerf the shit out of loot
>>738408980A bit disappointed we're not getting any new weapons. But I'll still play and do what I always do ARPGs, try a new build and get bored in early endgame.
>>738441010yeah kingsmarch seemed like busywork to me so I just didn't do it. and I probably will just get more tabs, I would like to have one of those big ones to hoard uniques I'll never use that are too cheap to sell for a good price
>>738440626>le ebin contrarian take
>/v/ seethes about X, Y, ZHuh, was the reveal so good?
>>738441124The entire internet except for Reddit turned on Poo2 and likes D4 now. You lost
>>738441237pretty good endgame changes but with two big sore spots, no new classes and this will be the last EA league before release. Last content patch of EA and we're still missing Axes, Swords, Knives and Flails. so either 1.0 is gonna drop 4 classes, or we're going into launch missing weapon types already on the skill tree.
the game is unfinished and will be rushed to launch this year missing half the shitits worth 1 playthrough and then an uninstall. the leagues are so trash
>>738413863but chris has sold out and left the company a long time ago to found another
>>738440228They don't sound like that in the slightest you brownoid ugly 3rd world nigger. Shut the fuck up when a white man speaks.
>>738441313They literally already said that 1.0 will not have every weapon/class.Jonathan also literally said that they cannot launch 1.0 without swords.So at minimum I am expecting 1.0 to be two classes, Duelist and Templar or Shadow. Jonathan seemed pretty honest about thinking swords were necessary, so I am counting on those. Templar and Shadow are the other two classes they've at least kind of teased. Marauder is legit MIA.
>>738441483I really want Templar personally, I'm always a sucker for holy warriors in these types of games. Made a holy hammers Slamplar in Mirage and had a great time. Just hope they can even out the defense strength disparity come this patch or 1.0.
>>738441425>listen to me when I speak saarr i am white>you are dumb brown sarrr
>>738414934because i am so sick and tired of retards on this board and outside it praise this pile of excrement. So i will shit on this game at every chance i get. Cause that's what it is. Shit.
>>738441794You don't need to sign your posts.
>>738442271Now we know you're brown because that doesn't make sense you street shitter
Poo2 might be okayish in 10 years or if they get rid of fat tard Jonathan, whichever comes first.The reveal even proved this pile of shit isn't moving in any direction just stagnant trying to cling onto it's predecessors fame
>>738441313huh, so possibly templar/crusader on xmas, sounds comfy
I thought it was supposed to be F2P by now
>>738441483They were talking about axes during the live stream so there is some hope.
Still not paying $30 for an unfinished game.
>>738414898Shut up fag, no company or institution that isn't completely full of shit and worthless was actually disrupted in any meaningful way by the fake coof
>>738427963Augments and transmutes are extremely valuable early Act 1 Fuck off
