ITT meaningless characters that did not contribute anything to the game's story.
the entire magellan aspect is undercooked just like mother base was in tpp
>>738415731Oops sorry wrong pictureThis bitch LITERALLY serves no purpose, at least Tarman is your chauffeur, this girl is just along for the ride
>>738416394She saves Norman from Higg's AMATERASU sharingan fire
>>738416325its a 200 hour game i dont need to explore the magellan for kooky kojima memes
the absolute madman, lets do this shit
yeah, fuck that, and fuck himim deleting every single structure that doesnt have a username written in english from now on
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>>738416325 this kojima keeps blueballing with these “hub” areas that are supposed to feel alive and then it’s just 3 NPCs standing around repeating cryptic nonsense while you mash through dialogue. mother base 2.0 but now with less bikini sniper and more boomer sea captain. magellan should’ve been explorable instead of just a glorified cutscene bus. imagine actually sneaking around the ship mid-storm while BT shit is popping off instead of another 40 minute codec call about strands and sticks.
the game is certified kino
>>738416394She exists solely to enrage the player with her autotuned singing.
>>738415731Tarman is based. I would have cut Neil and Lucy's subplot. That was pointless.
ive started sleeping in the middle of the outback just to get away from those yammering bitches
>Sam is not available right now, would you perhaps like to leave a message for him?
>>738419869I'm kinda seething about all that because during one of the interviews way before release kojima said something along the lines of>sam is not alone anymore, there's this crew backing him upAnd the only time it feels like it is during the road to F8 fight. For the rest of the game, it feels as if they don't exist outside cutscenes
>>738416914Kek, I saw a video of a jap on ps5 trying to get inside the city walls with a jump ramp place on that exact spot. May be him. He did not succeed.
>>738420764dollman is present at all times, tarman is piloting the magellan for sam's convenience, you can have the magellan deploy ordinance as early as the pioneerbut yeah, it would have been cool to have a consistent bush fire mechanic that rainy has to put out, or have her terraform the land for youbut a big deal is made about why fragile cant beach jump you around this game
>spend hours collecting god's blessed creatures around the map, only the smallest critters for my animal sanctuary >game places other player's giant hellrat roos into my garden of eden i hate them so much
>>738421157>dollman is present at all timesAnd what a fucking shame that is. SAM DID YOU WIPE YOUR ASS AFTER THIS CRYPTOBIOTE DIARRHEA EPISODE??? Tarman is cool, I liked his backstory, and piloting the magellan with his lost hand is rad. What I'm more seething about is the fact that we're supposed to really care about the crew but there's just isn't enough, at least for me. It just feels like an excuse to have cgdct but 3D. There should have been more interactions between sam and everyone on the magellan, and most importantly there should have been more interactions with them in gameplay. It really doesn't feel like sam isn't alone anymore outside of a handful of story missions which all happen at the end
>>738415731I put some thought into it, and it turns out you can remove him from the game entirely and the only thing that you'd need to change is how Michael ends up escaping from the slaughter house.
>>738421369Just kill them. What's a mere 200 less likes after all.
>>738416843I needed to, i was really looking forward to that.
>can replay neil fights in vr training>can't replay ghost mech boss fights in vr trainingThis is so fucking gay. Why are the only boss fights I can replay the worst ones
>>738420764Your seethe will subside in a couple of months like mine did leaving only smooth memories.It's a game about letting go after all, meta narratively also.
The entire friend group of Sam is under cooked. The friend group from the first game felt much more closer and lively to Sam, even though the game was far more lonely than the second game.The characters from the second game don't feel like, I don't know, the codec friends of Snake in MGS, no, they feels like empty Marvel characters full of lifeless "wholesome moments" and Reedus acting like a cardboard like he doesn't even really get the context of the scenes doesn't help. Kojimbo tried way too hard to "course correct" with what people complained.I hope he won't do this mistake again for his next games
>>738420705>odradek peeking out
>>738424083Jokes on you I'm a retard who can't let go of anything I'm demensmaxxing
A lot of scenes in that game felt like Kojimbo just wanting to be "the quirky director" and having fun with the actors. A majority of people preferred it over the first game, but to me it felt like a game much more bland. Like he wanted this game to cater more to people who care about actors and not gamers (including fans of the first game), with a few nod to MGS given like a carrot on a stick even if many didn't felt organic in the story.A lot of people says online "Physint will be his next MGS level game" but if he does the same thing with it, I almost have more trust in MGS without him than this.
Remember Yda? So useless she never existed in the first place, it was an assassination.
>>738417467ff 12 was such dogshit>>738424854>2nd strongest scion before she got stormbloodedshame. the masked airhead was great.
BE HONEST...be honest.
>>738416843>200Beat the game in 50 hours what the fuck do you mean 200 hoursAlso fuck kojima
>>738424274Not like Marvel, they're anime characters. Don't know how much anime you watch but those are SoL moe scenes and knock-off Starblazer scenes, the rest are generic mission briefings.It's really only Sam and Fragile tanking everyone else's performances into the abyss. To the point the ones acting up their anime trope are downright erased i've never seen this.
His voice put me to sleep.
>>738425046Yda didn't get anything'ed, she was retconned. She was a completely different character, she was killed on screen and replaced by a different character, there was no transformation.
>forget to disable live fire mode>accidentally kill brigandWhoops>>738425242It takes about 200 hours if you do all orders>>738425818What the fuck even happened with reedus' acting in 2 ? He was good in 1. I get that sam is supposed to be grieving in an extreme way, with hallucinating lou and all that. But take the cutscene that precedes the second kraken boss fight for exemple, sam should be at the very least a little mad at higgs being on the magellan threatening to kill fragile in front of him, but he just stands there saying and doing nothing, no emotions at all. I loved angry sam in 1, right from the start shit talking bridget and her dream of reconnecting america. As for fragile you're told by dollman that she's only putting up the act of tough commander and doesn't let emotions show because of that but man does it feel like shit to watch. Her only great scene is the one where she picks up the guitar and fires it at higgs because she's mad
ex grenades are so good for chiral creatures idk why i slept on them my first playthrough
>>738416726Rainy really serves no purpose other than that and providing an excuse for Fragile to have young skin again. She's just a smiling happy woman for the whole plot. Zero arc, or growth. You could say the same about most characters, though. Sam is a shadow of what he used to be, in the true sense of being 2 dimensional. I think Fragile gets the most development overall. Higgs also gets a good scene at the end. Frankly it should have been earlier, so that I didn't see him as a team rocket analogue for the whole game.
>>73842473970% of Death Stranding players stopped playing when they got to the main map. Never passed Chapter 3.It's hard to complain about any design decisions in DS2 when gamers at large had that reaction to the first game.
if you're holding both triggers and press X sam will skipif you're holding both triggers and press O sam will barge forwardif you're holding both triggers and press Triangle sam sort of shrugs? its the same animation as adjusting cargo and i was like omg i can adjust cargo without going into a menu, but unfortunately not? what is it even for?
>>738426283I guess that cutscene was Troy's time to shine with a speech so the other characters were made to shut up. Sam does a convincing "imma getchu" gesture at the start but the Kojima Brand Style excuse doesn't hold water here, this is too much. Or else something went weird with their direction on set because if there's a fracture between Sam and Fragile making them very uncomfortable around one another then that can be acted and shown but instead it's an absence of acting. What kind of storytelling method is this? Sounds like phantom pain shit, it's the jeep ride all over again, transmitting the cringe through the screen? Psychic communication with the screenwriter?
>>738427153Higgs scenes are gud because he's lively like a little palpatine.
>>738427104I used blood grenades for them. How do ex grenades compare?
I couldn't even remember his name, the game itself even makes fun of him for doing literally nothing
>>738428320The entire game was troy's time to shine. Every cutscene with higgs is instantly better than the rest because he's so lively which is ironic because he's fucking dead
>>738428550you need less to take out herds and theyre great for popping multiple golden creatures because of the range
i remember anon complaining about BTs being too spongy and just noticed the graphs on weapons explicity show you that assault rifles and machine guns are worthless against BTs compared to Big Bore handgun and Shotgunschiral canon is still king though
>>738415731I started saying "Tar Man here" outloud in anticipation a second before him on the Magellan because he wouldn't stop fucking calling me immediately after I woke upEVERY TIME
>>738425046>ff 12 was such dogshitYou have extreme shit taste.
i love gold
>>738416726>fragile and tomorrow awkwardly just stand there watching him immolate>hurr how do we stop the fire if only we knew someone with water powers that could help durr>the whoriental casually strolls into the scene taking her sweet fucking time and after ten minutes finally decides to help samReally good scene Kojimbles. Very tasteful, especially after the "girl power we're stronger than you Sam" scene. Should've given the player an option to dump these stupid cunts in the middle of the tar somewhere and leave them to rot.
>>738429290Cool I'll try it out. Surely it'll work better than the blood nades on the fucking BATS>>738429393>throw blood grenade>shoot through blood cloud with whatever>good damageWorked in the first game, works in the second, simple as. Until you get rocket launchers, that is
>>738425052you mean the yellow girl, right?
>>738416325I’m still angry at how fucking shallow Mother Base and the “PMC” stuff in general was. I thought we were gonna see the rise of supreme dark lord god emperor chancellor Venom but all we got was “Boss, I know you’re literally the boss, but we’re gonna send you out to disarm these mines and capture these wild animals while your army of thousands of soldiers wander around aimlessly in this giant military facility out in the ocean. Oh yeah you can also “dispatch” them and earn rewards passively. Don’t you feel like a PMC leader now?”
>>738429568Apple and a smoke? No, Tar-cake and cryptobiote?
>>738420303Ye. It’s no DS1 but it’s got a magic of its very own
>>738420583kek after awhile you do feel compelled to just go out and build your own safe house somewhere quiet. i built mine around the metagenomocist whatever right where you’re requested to build the local porters their own safe house after i let theirs rust away from timefall. every king needs his inner sanctum i guess
>>738430350>inner sanctumMetallic spring my beloved
>>738420764i don’t really mind it. i really like the feeling of solitude you feel from this game. and don’t act like you weren’t ordering the magellan all around australia to haul resources for you. they’re really not that different from the crew in the first game - they’re certainly there in the game, but you quickly forget they even exist after a couple standard deliveries.
>>738422427Franklin makes much more sense when you read into the devs’ notes on the story. One of the Houser brothers literally stated that Michael was the first character conceptualized. The story was always supposed to be about Michael. Then Trevor I guess came after because he seemed like a good foil to Michael. Michael was the retired bank robber who wanted to be a good family man and lied his way out of a criminal life, Trevor was the bitter but loyal junkie who knew nothing but bank robbing and crime. I feel like originally you were supposed to just play as Michael, then Trevor would’ve been your typical Rockstar “deuteragonist who’s initially your friend then eventually betrays you and becomes the final antagonist” of the game. But then some fuck decided “what if we made the game had three playable characters lmao” and the story ended up sucking. Michael feels half assed, Trevor is horribly misused, and Franklin is just this awkward third party sitting in the cuck chair as the events unfold in front of him. It’s why the Kill Trevor ending feels so fleshed out and “natural” whereas the Kill Michael ending just feels kinda forced and out of character, and why there’s not a Kill Franklin ending at all. Michael was always meant to be the sole protagonist, Trevor was always meant to be the antagonist, and Franklin was probably just a side character at best
>>738430448>kojima wants players to feel connection to magellan crew>feeling of solitudeSee that's the problem
>>738428956It’s not lost on me how great Troy Baker is as a straight up villain. I was getting sick of his spineless “lovable jackass” antihero roles. The first Death Stranding singlehandedly cured me of my Troy Baker fatigue.
>>738429568these scenes are so fucking cathartic. i remember killing my first catcher in the first game and holy shit it’s like puffing on a cigarette for the first time
>>738430775For me, in the first game at least, it’s more about slowly learning to connect. You have Sam, the most solitary and reclusive man in the world, and he’s sent on a mission only he can do to connect people. The Bridges crew try to get close to him but he initially shoves them off. Slowly he comes to get used to people but still happily goes out to the quiet he always liked. I feel like DS2 kinda doubles down on that. He’s still autistic and likes to be alone most of the time, but he’s gotten more accustomed to people. You get a bit of both, I feel. But if you don’t like it then that’s fine. Death Stranding is just one of those franchises(?) that has many things some people like and others people hate.
>>738430243If they're meant to be played back to back then better them not be the exact same.
>>738430350>around the metagenomocistUgliest area in the game, you mean near the vtubericist.
>>738430119i actually loved the twist that every single mission briefing was a lieit was all theater productionthey sent him into the aftermath of conflict zones to mop up in relative safetyits almost The Truman Show
>>738431176also the fact he spent thousand of years on the beach
>>738430775>humanitarian game>everyone acts like weird aliensWorked in the 1st not in the 2nd they're truly aliens this time.
SAAAM
>>738431176I don't like the game really wanting me to like the new characters while doing very little for me to care. Sam didn't hang around Mama for long, yet that single cutscene where he cuts the cord between her and her baby felt more impactful than all of Rainy's appearances in 2.
if timefall wasnt a thing in america at the end of the first game it actually makes more sense that people would be losing their shit over Rainy walking around fucking things up
>>738430921>mfw didn't even know who troy baker was before death stranding>still don't know majority of facescanned people for both gamesFeelsgood>>738431604FUCK YOU DOLLMAN
thats my WIFE man
>>738432170I'm going to kidnap your wife and trigger the last stranding
>>738430243Notice how the cars still have windows and inflated tires despite timefall aging them by thousands of years
>>738416325I like DS2 but holy shit was it lame that we couldn't explore the ship.
>>738427153>I think Fragile gets the most development overall.Kinda ironic when you think about it.
>>738433454Foreseeing how your date's gonna go?
>>738434775Theres no timefall on that part of the map
Cuckjimbo is insufferable.
>This thread
>>738415731He is Kojima.Still piloting the ship after losing his child. The man who made The Phantom Pain is literally suffering a phantom pain from the loss.The chiral cat represents Death Stranding.Yep, its kino
>>738422427yeah having recently replayed the GTAV story for the first time since launch, I agree. Franklin feels very tacked on. Especially the Deathwish ending, where they're like "we need to kill Stretch so Franklin's backstory can be involved." Franklin himself hadn't even been thinking about it, and is like "oh yeah I guess so." It's so obviously shoehorned in.Hell, even Trevor being enemies with the Chinese is rushed and not really fleshed out. Michael is the protagonist, plain and simple. The rest is fluff
>>738431374huh? that was a thing?
>>738415731I found the cut screen with his son to be masterfully directed desu. Does he really need to contribute more than thematically and rounding out the cast?
I used a cheat engine to get infinite ammo, I wonder if other players can pick up my infinite ammo weapon, think of it as the bandana and I put them all in a locker
was it supposed to do that? I kinda wanted those crystals
where is my roadster kojimboooo
>>738415731Both Death Strandings are mediocre forgettable games carried by their aesthetic
>>738441414You know, if the adventurer was a qtpi I wouldn't have minded toting his ass all over the mountain
>>738441414>want me to suck your cock while driving?
>>738416394God I wish I could breed
Playing Jedi Survivor for the first time and I'm thinking this guy feels so forced he is probably is a spy for the Empire
>>738428382Higgs was basically the only likable character in the game because he chewed the scenery so hard
