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Why is gaming mostly being a male-dominated hobby a bad thing?
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Men cant be allowed to have shit
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noone says it's a bad thing
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>>738424040
>gaming mostly being a male-dominated hobby
grandpa is sundowning again
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>>738424171
shut up & dilate/play candycrush
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>>738424160
Have you been living under a rock the last 12 or so years?
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It only really was during the Xbox-360 era. Games like halo and GTA made so much money that the entire industry pivoted to super macho games and characters.
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>>738424040

Women go insane if they're not allowed to ruin everything men have.
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>>738424308
keep fighting those ghosts

i believe you, you really are being oppressed lol
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>>738424560
Glad you agree, faggot.
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>>738424560
You are correct gaming has been its absolute best these past 12 years.
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>>738424308
not really, i have been around and haven't noticed anything
and every time i ask i get a non-answer like this
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>>738424840
Well, yeah, everything is gay and lame, so of course.
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>>738424840
>there are people on this board who DON'T think gaming has been at its peak for the last 12 years
imagine having shit taste
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>>738424890
>haven't noticed anything
Because you like that it's happening.
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>/v/ espouses that women are nothing but trouble for the man who knows how he likes to spend his time and maintain individuality
>but also calls incels pathetic and people who need to be gassed for the good of society
>the only acceptable pathway to being unsexed is one of personal choice with firm boundaries that you set or you're a faggot
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>>738424160
>>738424560
Shit gaslighting
There hasn't been a massive push to get women into games, guys.
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>>738424994
Die zoomer
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>>738424994
Ikr, the audacity of having to put up with these unwashed, uncultured heathens.
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>>738424814
why do you care so much about this?
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>>738425089
>having to put up with these unwashed, uncultured heathens
No one made you come here from reddit.
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>>738424040
Because the corpos want to double their potential market.
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>>738424040
how is it a good thing?
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>>738425118
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OP wants to be male dominated
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>>738424040
Why do you fags cry perplexed about shit like this all the time when the answer is literally always money
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>>738424040
It isn't. It's just dumb women that can't handle men having their own interests and their white knights that will just agree to whatever those women want in the hopes of getting a crumb of pussy.
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Zamn you would think there was an unaccompanied minor in this thread the way the trannies swooped in
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>>738425149
Why does this only happen to male-dominated things, though? I don't see anyone in the harlequin novel market saying they need to expand by catering to men too.
Same goes for knitting.
Rom coms.
Or anything else dominated by women.
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>>738425142
Doesn't understand sarcasm, not gonna make it.
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>>738424040
If men have a space to themselves, they might end up agreeing that they like this version of the world better https://files.catbox.moe/x77vpu.webm
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>>738425231
>always money
It's not. It's ideological. And has been for years.
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>>738425295
You're actually retarded if you don't think the producers of that shit want as wide of a market as possible.
Rom coms as an example especially shows how retarded you are, the entire ethos and design of rom coms is to get a working male to buy tickets/ a streaming service for a woman to watch these things.
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>>738424040
I hate men, and women are funny, dumb, and cute
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>>738424040
Must obtain new audience.

Number MUST go up
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>>738425357
Ideology doesn't buy shit, the jews figured this out thousands of years ago.
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>>738424040
I think everyone should be able to enjoy video games, even if you're black and/or a faggot like OP.
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>>738425409
>the entire ethos and design of rom coms is to get a working male to buy tickets/ a streaming service for a woman to watch these things.
I thought modern women were independent.
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>>738425295
How are literature and television different from gaming?
>Knitting
Good luck making bank selling yarn.
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>>738425303
how do you know that poster wasn't genuine?
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>>738424160
>>738424560
>leftist discourse is entirely pretending not to understand things
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>>738425535
Yeah that's what the propaganda clearly sold your dumb ass
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>>738425295
Knitting has its own problems
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>>738425535
Who told you that?
Our entire reality is constructed by men to keep their daughters safe and pampered
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>>738425581
>ragebait
why should i care?
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>>738425581
odd way of admitting you've never had sex
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>>738425295
Those things are niche because female purchasing power wasn't there yet. It's a tougher lift putting those things into the mainstream than vidya. Also what >>738425409 said. They'd try to hook men on those things in a second if they believed the venture would pay off. And some rom coms do try to pull in guys by including typical guy humor and making the designated rival chick hot, etc
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>>738424308
The only people who care are shareholders that want the other 50% of the population to be as obsessed with their product as men are.
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>>738425542
Because I made that post he was replying to.
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>>738425669
>muh pussy
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>>738425669
>Nobody is trying to take games from you!
>Actually someone is but it doesn't count
>You are an incel
You are here
>Actually taking gaming away from men is a good thing sweetie
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>>738425295
It's apparently considered something of a crisis right now in literature that men are reading much less than women.
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>>738425710
you are really bad at sarcasm, your post is indistinguishable from a genuine one
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>>738425581
>>738425765
>talking about stereotypes is culture theft
least insane rightoid
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If you want the female version of this, it's equestrianism
like 90% of it is women and the few guys who join these horse groups are either faggots or painfully obviously only there to hit on girls (which never works btw and mostly kill vibes)
it's funny though because horse racing at the top 1% level is still male dominated even though the female body is more suited to go faster
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>>738425295
I think people understand niches. Its corporations that don't. You won't see someone who comes home to watch the 4-7 sports show complain that the Twilight Saga exists and should involve more tackling. You won't see DND nerds lament that My Little Pony doesn't have more tabletop elements and you won't see gamers whine that games aren't more like movies. Its all corporate shills and trendchasers, metrics and shareholders who want everything diversified to appeal to a larger demographic. And they will always be out-of-touch cause they truly don't give a fuck if it completely alienates their original audience.

Want some examples? Star Wars, Bud Light, Gillete products, Star Trek, Marvel and modern gaming. Everyone tried to appeal more to a nonexistent or small audience that doesn't exist and they still continue to lose money.
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>>738425765
>women no longer being discriminated against in videogame spaces == 'taking gaming away' from men
retard
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>>738425765
nah we are still on "nobody is trying to take games from you". ragebait articles don't mean shit.
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>>738424040
If anything, it's a good thing.
Given what we've seen happen as more women are put in charge of decision-making at these companies, and more "women identifying" sickos are put in important roles as well, we can only conclude that male-orientation of the video gaming industry is a stabilizing influence, and reducing it only sows instability and lowers product quality.
I suspect if you asked women who were playing barbie games ten years ago what they think of modern ones, they too would say the newer ones are shit, so it's a problem that affects everybody.
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>>738425840
Uh huh...you are just talking about it, there is no way it leads to any real action to do something about it. There is zero initiatives, actions or controversy about catering to female players for the past 20 years. None.
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>>738425825
>Your post is indistinguishable from a genuine one
Dam, I'm better at shit posting than I thought.
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>>738426052
explain how they're going to take the Hwite Man's Videogames away
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>>738426052
incels seething on basketweaving forums does not controversy make
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>>738425934
Nobody is angry about women being able to play the same video games as men. Everyone is upset because women enter the space and demand that games remove problematic male gaze content and cater to their sensibilities. Of course, leftist discourse is pretending not to understand things, as usual
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>>738425295
Because stuff is so expensive to make now that you need to try and force a massive safety net to not get closed down from just one failure.
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>>738426110
>running out of arguments so hard you simply repeat incel like a broken record
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>>738424040
because women can't adequately parse the hierarchies it creates from the outside it thus feel the need to penetrate it in order to find out which men engaged with it have genetic value
same reason they want to go into academics and business
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>>738425813
Maybe because they're not making books for men anymore. Or TV shows. Movies. Games. Comics.
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>>738425627
Fuckin' knitters
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>>738426203
is that a trigger word for you? re-read my post ESL-kun. or are you "pretending not to understand things", like you accuse others of doing?
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>>738425934
women have never, ever been discrimanbted against in gaming. Ever.
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>>738425840
>>738425934
Uh oh circlejerktroon melty. No, you freaks don't give a shit about videogames and never will
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>>738426302
>retard pretending the biggest controversy in gaming history doesn't exist beyond 4chan
Uh huh, keep going.
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>>738426348
>discrimanbted
good morning saar
i hate women, love from india saar
need more white woman bobs in videogame saar
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>>738426386
just answer the question lil /v/ro
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>>738424040
Because feminism teaches women that they won't be happy unless they jealously covet every single thing that men naturally possess or gravitate to.
And if, in the real world, women don't actually want something that men have, men are still evil for having it without them. Efforts must be made to stop the men from having something to themselves.
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>>738425416
You're a man
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>>738425669
boy did those goalposts move quickly
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>>738426565
>possess
delusional retard. men don't "possess" videogames. your favorite videogames were made in part by women, btw
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It's only bad in the case of executive laser targeting it, which leads to less interesting games. It's like how with cartoons it used to be even if you had a good show it'd get called a flop and eventually canned because it either didn't sell enough toys, or if it has too many girls watching it alongside the boys.
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The whole "you don't need to play the games to be a fan of them" thing in the RE fandom comes mostly from women, that should be enough reason to gatekeep them from vidya.
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>>738426386
Dude is right. Nothing you posted said men get less, just that women are being catered to now as well and you are freaking out thinking that means you are being robbed. You're fighting phantoms in your own head.
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>>738426159
And yet, they keep fucking doing it, and studios keep closing. Women will never be a viable audience for video games.
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>>738426673
Oh nice we are on the
>video games is not a male hobby and that's a good thing
already. Only took fewer than 80 posts.
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>>738425765
We've cycled through all of those options multiple times
Just accept that vagina is invincible
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>>738424040
Everything must be for women.
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>>738426743
>just that women are being catered to now as well
And how are those games doing?
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>>738425765
I bet you have the Fox hunch.
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>>738425840
>talking about stereotypes
>like stereotypes are terrible things that need to be combated at any cost
>near hysterical levels of "this must change to be more inclusive", repeated infinitely until the magical 50% number is reached and surpassed... and then still repeated infinitely
>for no actual reason, with no actual goal in mind
>it's just that if the magical number is less than 50% that's an absolute travesty, simply because it is
Now continue to pretend you don't understand.
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>>738426842
persona is doing the best it ever has
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>>738426743
>Nothing you posted said men get less, just that women are being catered to now as well
Women are catered to meaning neutering content to appeal to female sensibilities 90% of the time. They don't enter the hobby to fit in. They enter the hobby to change it to their liking. And that's why people hate it.
There is a small indie game thread right now >>738408582 and you if go on the store page, you will actively see women bitching about how it has too much male fanservice.
Are you freaks gonna respond to this argument or ignore it?
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So, we're back to step one, huh?
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>>738426752
Maybe so, though I argue those games likely would have failed anyway which just proves them right for trying in those cases.
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>>738426673
>or gravitate to
Are you unable to read, moron?
>your favorite videogames were made in part by women, btw
Why do you imagine I care? You're flailing at an imaginary opponent.
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>>738426896
>near hysterical levels of "this must change to be more inclusive", repeated infinitely until the magical 50% number is reached and surpassed... and then still repeated infinitely
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>>738426896
>>like stereotypes are terrible things that need to be combated at any cost
Yes, because statistical evidence shows they're mostly jokes and some people like (You) take them too seriously.
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>>738426739
>videogames
>VIDEO
>games
>wtf why do people like watching it? FAKE FANS FAKE FANS
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>>738426950
How is Persona, a game where you are a teenage boy dating cute teenage girls, for women?
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>>738425934
The discrimination you speak of is men behaving the way they naturally do when amongst themselves. Forbidding men from doing that is indeed taking gaming away from men.
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>>738427019
>watching a video game edit makes you a fan
This is the average iq of the woman you are arguing with on /v/ btw.
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Gaming was objectively better when it was 99% male centric and no one can deny that.
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>>738426743
>just that women are being catered to now as well
By terraforming games to remove or alter things that are seen as a barrier to inclusivity. Which is men getting less.
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>>738427059
You must have a low opinion of men if you think shitty behavior is natural or good, when it's just shitty behavior other men got browbeaten to accept as normal.
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>>738427059
only a very small percentage of men behave that way naturally, it's just that they are exceedingly over represented here because permavirgin manchildren want to say the n word without repercussions
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Still not buying your wokeslop btw, enjoy your lay offs
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>>738427174
There is no shitty behavior
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>>738427174
>>738427198
These posters have never been in a male space
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>>738427174
>shitty behavior men got browbeaten to accept as normal
Sounds like feminism
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>>738426950
Persona, the game where they removed the femc protag from 3 reload and they are still bitching about it to this day?
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>>738427059
As a healthy male, calling people the N-word over and over isn't something I'd naturally do. I think you're conflating psychopaths as males. Granted, the modern male is a lost cause.
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>>738427009
>irrefutable, observable behavior
>call the person pointing it out a schizo because you have no argument
Lefty raiders really are retarded aren't they
>>738427013
>the stereotypes must be changed because of an imaginary person I invented
So you're admitting to cultural terraforming for political reasons. Thank you.
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>>738427174
>>738427198
Ah yes, a very small minority. >>738425339
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>>738424040

That's not the issue. The problem is that the collective thinks that a male-dominated hobby means it's gonna be sexist, chauvinistic, and make men even worse to women. They got a hold of some very notorious examples of female characters that fit their agenda and ran with it.

The other reason is that video games are fun.

There's idiots on both sides of the conflict, but I agree it's all changed for the worse.
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>>738425295
Women spend the money of men. Husbands, fathers, sons, male taxpayers. It's easier to extract money from men by peddling shit to women, who will make some man or another pay for it. It's easier to convince a woman that she needs another set of some turbo knitting pins than it would be to sell the first and only set to a man.
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>>738427217
If there is no shitty behavior then neither can there be good behavior, it's all just gray amorphous slop.
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>>738427349
you're a schizo precisely because you think your headcanon is either irrefutable or observable, let alone both

>>738427302
and yet women love persona 5
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We need pussy! We need it we need it we need it!
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>did you dare to say something that might read like mild criticism of a woman if you squint the right way? HOW DARE YOU YOU SCHIZOPHRENIC INCEL
It doesn't take much to activate an NPC's culture warrior protocols
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>>738424994
>posts game by dev that's so unashamedly lazy he release one small section of his game every 3 years and is forcing his fans to wait 15+ years of their life for the full game
lol retard
lmao
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>>738424040
It isn't. Silence anyone who says otherwise.
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>>738427563
>NPC'S
GCJ discord troons
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>>738427535
You're right, activists never talk about incredibly important it is for things to be more inclusive, and how bad it is to be at less than 50% female representation
You definitely don't see interest groups and CEOs and politicians and celebrities talking about this shit constantly, every day, and meeting every success with "and it's still not enough"
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>>738427670
That's the same thing, just more specific
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>>738427407
>it's just marketing
So why is it constantly pushed by ideologues instead of marketing executives?
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>>738427670
This makes it even worse, because women mostly tolerate troons at best and most don't even like them, so why troons blindly support women is beyond me.
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>>738427729
>incredibly important it is for things to be more inclusive, and how bad it is to be at less than 50% female representation
what about this implies they want to go past that infinitely forever no matter the cost as per your schizo headcanon?
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>>738427535
>and yet women love persona 5
Which doesn't cater to them, which makes it not only irrelevant to the point you're trying to make, but also compelling evidence that catering to women is pointless and unnecessary.
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>>738427839
Because you do the marketing for free do they don't have to and they still make money.
Fantastic job. Cuck.
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>>738427984
>joker doesn't cater to women
ok incel
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>>738424040
Corpos want to sell to everyone for more money
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>>738427964
>what about this implies they want to go past that infinitely forever
Have you ever seen them shut up and stop whining when they reach their goal of 50%?
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>>738424040
Because males are lazy and okay with being wastes of space. Women have empathy and feel great shame when being unproductive. We'd still be living in mud huts if it wasn't for women picking up the slack and carrying society forward.
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>>738428063
>for more money
then why are they wasting time making game for women instead of just focusing on farm simulation (women game)
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>>738428070
>Have you ever seen them shut up and stop whining when they reach their goal of 50%?
name one instance of this ever happening other than farmville and candy crush and the sims
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>>738428109
>never met a landwhale
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>>738428063
And yet every time they take a franchise that used to be made for men and make it for women, it flops. It even happened to Star Wars.
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>>738428025
>evades the part about ideologues so he can try to shame me for talking about it
Update your playbook, this one just makes you look retarded
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>>738428137
Why aren't you doing this to make money if you've got it so cracked and it's so simple?
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>>738428109
kek
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>>738428217
You are an ideologue talking about their marketing points for them, because you're a dipshit cuck.
The other ideologues do the same.
Corporations make the money from it and you idiots just fling shit at each other over it while pretending to have a moral highground.
You fucking whore.
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>>738428205
>men are tired of politics being in their games and shows
>make a Star Wars so political that it eclipses shows about actual real life politics
>it's the most critically successful and popular Star Wars in decades
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>>738428205
They're not very smart.
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>>738428168
Show me an activist that has ever said "Okay, we're in a good place, we can stop now."
The pro-woman policy bias that gets something to 50% is never repealed or retired, the goalposts just move to some other ridiculous complaint because progressive activists base their identities on being progressive activists
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>>738428205
Because men are vindictive children who operate only on zero-sum.
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>>738428334
Is that why Kathleen Kennedy left and no one is watching SW now?
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>>738428205
Everybody is saying they want to make money, not that they are competent at it or even successful, usually.
But nepotism allows these executive mistakes to get swept under the rug and then the incompetent slime can just lurch into another field or industry quietly and do it again somewhere else. They could give a shit less, they're making more money in one year failing than you will in a lifetime of being successful.
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>>738428035
>a protagonist women find attractive means the game is catered to women
Do you romance men in Persona 5? Or do you romance women?
>incel incel incel incel incel incel incel
lmao
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>>738428417
Including yourself?
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>>738428481
>/v/ incel doesn't know about fujoshis
jej
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>>738428332
>nooo you shouldn't defend your hobby from people who want to ruin it, you're just, uh... making the corporations money! ignore all the woke flops, PLEASE!
lmao, try harder
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>>738426239
Hey, i wrote a book about a nudist MILF with gigantic tits fucking her cute neighbor and nobody bought it.
Now i have to write about a hunky nudist surfer getting his ass eaten out by the heroine in the middle of a supermarket.
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>>738424560
This is how you know leftism is pathological because if you applied this same behavior to any other aspect of life you'd get diagnosed with a personality disorder
>ugh there are too many "dude bro" games
>there's too many men in gaming
>we need more women #girlpower
>women are becoming the majority of gamers now chud (***if you include candy crush)
>because women are valid gamers we need to make games obviously aimed at men appeal to women
>black and non-binary folx too
>no gooner games because the offends women, but ZAM Leon's ass is PHAT. OMG they're literally lesbians and that's so valid. Can I get more bear on man sex scenes in my game please?
>you need to accept the new normal chud
>*starts getting too much pushback*
>uhhh actually none of that happened. you're just fighting ghosts. You really think you are being oppressed lol?

Completely disingenuous behavior. Trump won btw. Popular vote too. So clearly your behavior is abhorrent to normalfags to.
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>>738428510
Oh so now we're pretending Persona 5 has gay romance options?
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>>738428574
>leftism is pathological
Boy is it ever. Every day they prove once again how mentally ill they are
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>>738428606
i'm sorry i thought your implicit "women are bad and retarded" premise allowed for fujoshis being satisfied with simply playing as men
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>>738428557
kek
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>>738428404
show me a major genre or a major franchise whose audience demographic is over 50% female
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>>738425295
Because women account for 70-80% of consumer spending. That number sounds absolutely fucking insane but it's true, women buy WAY more shit than men do. Groceries, household goods, children's products, healthcare, clothing, travel and homes are all fields in which women make almost all of the spending decisions. Men only reach a majority of spending in fields like industrial equipment, commercial properties, gambling, tobacco and alcohol. Nearly everything else is female-dominated and it's not even close.
Women spend almost all the money so it is lucrative to pander to them. The same is not true vice versa.
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>>738428417
>Vindictive
So there is a negative for them, you just don't like that they don't shut up and take it.
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>>738428723
Animal Crossing.
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Someone post that gender-seperated survivor show pic for our esteemed visitor >>738428109
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>>738428137
>>738428205
Suits are out of touch and retarded
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>>738428794
>Farmville, Nintendo
but just for fun let's pretend it's a solid example
now explain how modern leftism has stolen Farmville, Nintendo from men
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>>738428109
>Because males are lazy
This was written by a biological male, btw.
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>>738428740
>renames "diversity" to "proportional representation"
>"it's not diversity"

the leftist ULT. everyone hates the thing I push? rename it.
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>>738428871
>tv shows are representative of reality
if you factor in the emotional labor women did more work in building civilization than men
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>>738428740
Why do women NEED to be represented in everything?
No one ever says men need to be represented in female-dominated fields.
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>>738425627
>who is white
Jesus Christ get a grip it's KNITTING.
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>>738428723
>goalpost, moved
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>>738429051
You are a man. Start acting like it.
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>>738428723
Resident Evil
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>>738424040
Women are better at wasting money unless the dude is addicted to gambling
Skins and other similar cosmetics are akin to playing dress-up with dolls and generally only work if the person cares about outward appearances virtually
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>>738429162
i cannot wait to hear how lookism incels don't care about outward appearances
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>>738425007
A lot of dudes can just download tinder, swipe right on 200+ lb single black moms and go to town. Many people do have standards even if they feel hopelessly single/desperate
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>>738429216
It's not about outliers, women simply are way more frivolous with money. And if my sister is any indication, highly influenced by peer pressure and fomo.
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I was about to say I can't think of a single game that's been taken away from me and then I remembered I used to really, really love World of Warcraft.
Maybe this culture war thing should have been taken seriously.
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men and male spaces bad
women and female spaces good
how long until you remember this, chud?
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>>738428665
>allowed for fujoshis being satisfied with
I thought women were being catered to by Persona 5?
Now a specific niche of women are merely "satisfied" with it?
Very robust argument you have there.
>your implicit "women are bad and retarded" premise
I'm sorry to dissassemble the strawman you were raging against, but my premise is that feminism and progressivism are bad and retarded, not women.
Of course, progressive ideology does its best to make women bad and retarded, and has a tragically high success rate. But when I look at the havoc wreaked on the cognitive faculties of men like yourself, it's impossible to make the argument that women are uniquely affected.
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>>738429051
>the emotional labor
LMAO
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>>738424075
This. This was all that had to be said cause it's basically the entire truth. Anything after this has no value. Women want men to just serve them and to fund their lifestyles like joyless golems.
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>>738429216
>takes the "incel" epithet so seriously he's actually conjured a hyperspecific bogeyman to rage against
Spectacularly entertaining!
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>>738428785
This is just because men value economic efficiency more right?
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>>738429216
They might care about status, but actual appearance not so much, many of them wear basic fashion, don't exercise and eat like shit
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>>738429571
i don't know how to explain to you that women love playing as joker because he's hot and they're smart enough to be able to self-insert as characters that aren't the same gender and race as them
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>>738429459
Thank you for your honesty, anon
What was done to WoW is an absolute travesty.
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>>738425669
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>>738429727
Adding to this, skins can give off some status, but like I will say on average dudes are better with money, unless they're exposed to gambling and substances, which they very quickly become worse with it
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>>738425203
This isnt a real fallacy btw.
Reddit literally made it up
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>>738427340
I can just SMELL the soi from here.
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>>738429738
>(these specific) women enjoy playing a game aimed at boys
That was a nice little stroll we took, but now we're back where we started and your argument is no better for it.
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>>738429725
>>738429803
>men are obviously better with money because they tend to spend money on things i, a man, also spend money on
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>>738424040
Because if you're gaming, you're not paying attention to women (they hate this) and you're not making money for our billionaire overlords (they hate this)
How DARE you enjoy your own time.
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How did the right lose the culture war so badly?
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>>738429459
That image of Anduin from the War Within cinematic perfectly sums up how much WoW has degraded.
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>>738424040
Because they dont want men to have anything to ourselves.
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>>738430019
by being cruel and creatively bankrupt
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>>738429459
the culture war caused wotlk, cataclysm, and pandaria?
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>>738429945
Yes, we buy the same things but women don't try to minmax their purchases as much which companies are now noticing.
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>>738430019
lmao i can't tell you how many times i've seen incels here say that "zoomers are the most based and conservative generation yet!" just bald-faced lying
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>>738430019
by being ugly and annoying
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>>738430019
>>738430092
>muh right
>muh left
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>>738430197
>muh third position (right)
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>>738430186
the next cope they'll give you now is "p-people get more conservative as they get older!" which hasn't been true for a very long time
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>>738430193
what did this guy do wrong? did he even say anything chuddy?
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Imagine obsessively browsing 4chan all day hoping for threads like this so you can get your daily dose of dopamine from being a glorified hall monitor.
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>>738430019
I know this is just stupid bait to deflect from how badly you're losing in this thread, but a 14% advantage in one age group is laughably bad for progressives, since people become more conservative with age and every other group in your example is already significantly more conservative.
R.I.P. progressive ideologues
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>>738430193
>>738430272
Looks like the average reddit user to me.
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So what's the answer to OP's question?
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>>738430178
>the game was already getting bad at this point so let's just ignore how completely rotten it has been rendered by progressivism
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>>738430253
>>738430326
pottery
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>>738430326
Lol >>738430253

every time
only boomers are rightoids now and everyone else is just waiting for them to die
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>>738430253
>I know your argument will absolutely destroy me so I'm just going to state it in advance in a mocking tone of voice so I can ignore it later
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>>738424160
Well noone likes me so I believe him.
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>>738430472
>>738430438
>>738430447
EXQUISITE pottery
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>>738430472
>nooooo my cope didn't work bawwwwww
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>>738429051
>emotional labor
Kill yourself.
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>>738430193
Trannies are your biggest problem in life, since they're completely nuking the left lmao
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WE'RE WINNING, GIRLS!!!!!!
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>>738430019
They attached themselves to a pedo that sent all the zoomers to war in Iran
Now all the zoomers want to see him dead
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>>738430472
stay mad rightoid
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>leftists completely losing the argument in this thread
>irrelevant bait gets posted to distract from this
>mysteriously, leftists stop replying to the arguments they were losing
LMAO
Their playbook couldn't be more obvious if they opened it up and sat it on the table
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>>738430580
keep crying incel
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How the fuck did this thread devolve into people posting about Trump? This is about video games.
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>>738429157
explain how resident evil has been stolen from men
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>>738429738
Hey thanks for conceding in the most blatant way possible >>738430780
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>>738430780
>oh no our irrelevant off-topic thread isn't going the way I want to
>JANNIES HELPPPPPPP
>IT'S THE PLAYBOOK THEYRE DOING THE PLAYBOOK
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>>738424040
Because women have money too and you HAVE to hit that 100% human target demographic
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>>738430661
>worth it for iran war
i've already been seeing rightoids saying more or less the same thing and how this regime change was long overdue. it's so fucking exhausting man. remember when they were so proud of trump not starting any new wars in his first time? feels so long ago
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>>738430798
They do it on purpose. For all they call you a schizo culture warrior, they are here solely for the purpose of advancing their progressive agenda and countering any criticism of it.
When they're losing they post some irrelevant garbage designed to bait engagement, to try and trash the thread before they lose too much momentum.
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>>738430798
>why are we talking about rightoids in the rightoid incel containment thread
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>>738430963
They do it on purpose. For all they call you a schizo culture warrior, they are here solely for the purpose of advancing their incel agenda and countering any criticism of it.
When they're losing they post some irrelevant garbage designed to bait engagement, to try and trash the thread before they lose too much momentum.
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>>738430836
still waiting for someone to provide a single example of a game being taken from men due to leftism or feminism or diversity
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>>738430962
>SAAAAAR PLEASE STOP LAUGHING AT ME SAAAAR PLEASE I AM ARYAN
lol
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>>738430848
>>oh no our irrelevant off-topic thread isn't going the way I want to
The off topic thread you were enthusiastically engaging in when you thought you were winning. Curious.
>>IT'S THE PLAYBOOK THEYRE DOING THE PLAYBOOK
Yes.
You're just bringing us back to
>instead of engaging with the argument that destroys me, I'm going to state your position mockingly so I can ignore it
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>>738430962
lmfao you know this is some 30 something loser that's been embroiled in his keyboard war for 14 years that's trying to talk like sephiroth
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>>738431048
Case in point.
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>>738424040
Because women and faggots are beings full of hate and spite. Women are getting into heavy labor activities like working out and military purely out of ego and not innate instinct or necessity.
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>>738431076
>still trying to distract with irrelevant nonsense
Why is gaming mostly being a male-dominated hobby a bad thing?
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>>738430798
this was a thinly veiled /pol/troon thread from the start. how you didn't see that, i don't know. new here?
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>>738431172
why is it a good thing?
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>>738424040
because many games publishers are publicly traded, which means their value lies in whether they can increase their profits rather than simply being profitable.
a large untapped market like the fairer sex makes shareholders eyes turn into dollar signs.
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>>738431174
What is a poltroon?
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>>738431172
>th-thats irrelevant
looks like a nerve was struck
youre more than 30 years old unc, shouldn't you have a job? a girlfriend?

im sure the girls arent interested in hearing about the tactics of the dastardly video game leftists
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>>738431134
>full of hate and spite
but definitely not you incel right? someone seething over women and calling a whole group of people the f-word. you're full of love and compassion
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>>738431043
You got one at >>738429459 but "taken" is a bad faith framing to start with, because you can meet any example with "lol you can still play it can't you"? The real point is as was stated here >>738427167
Focusing on inclusivity "takes" from fans by terraforming it away from what they like and filling it with stupid nonsense.
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>>738424040
Stop being anti-semitic
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>>738431174
>troon
Nice falseflag. You lost every single argument and now are resorting to this? Kill yourself /pol/yp.
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>>738431231
And how's that working out?
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>>738431304
explain how it was feminism or diversity or leftism that ruined world of warcraft
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>>738430798
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>>738431295
>>738431285
>>738431262
Why are you on 4chan?
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>>738431262
>Poltroon (Noun):
>An ignoble or total coward; a dastard; a mean-spirited wretch.
Basically your average rightoid
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>>738430798
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>>738431285
What is your opinion on games being altered by sensitivity readers to be as inoffensive as possible to as wide a group of people as possible? Do you agree that it destroys the creative spirit of games and homogenizes them to the point of cultural nothingness?
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>>738431349
I don't understand your question.
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>>738431415
You think /pol/ is some home for right-wing people?
Do you know they have flags for gay people, BLM, and other shit?
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>>738431448
>b-bu-but WHATABOUT
you lost.
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>>738431448
how was the creative spirit of Slay the Spire 2 altered?
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>>738431375
I'm not the one that made that post, and I'm not a WoW player myself, but even I think that's self-evident in all the ridiculous flying wheelchair and black girlboss amputee and gaytransnonbinary shit being forced in at every turn.
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>>738431464
>Companies decide to cater to women, thinking men will still simply buy their shit out of loyalty
>men don't
>women don't
>studios close
>games die
So, how's that working out for them?
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>>738431481
>the one board that has no option to report posts for racism is not right wing
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>>738431481
saying /pol/ isnt a den of rightoid incels because meme flags exist is the honestly the funniest stretch of truth ive ever seen someone attempt
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>>738431513
You're the one desperately avoiding actual discussion after a thorough ass raping, but "I" lost. Uh huh.
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>>738431521
.....he's not going to answer this despite being what he's crying about
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>>738427415
shitty behaviour exists, but what we're talking about isn't an example
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>>738431627
Why would you even bother with these freaks?
They literally want men in womens toilets.
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>>738431569
And yet, everyone is welcome there. Funny how that works.
I can go there right now and shit on Donald Trump, the GOP, and Charlie Kirk and not get banned.
If I were to go to reddit and do the same for anyone on the left, I'd be banned.
So, again, /pol/ is not right-wing, you dishonest fuck.
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>>738431613
see
>>738431713
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JSID
>>738430249
kek
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>>738429860
>Get called out for being a faggot with his triviality
>Response with appeal to triviality
weeww lad
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"emperor of mankind" turned out to be a cuck lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-nAXQhmhQ
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>>738430019
I mean the right won the last election in a landslide and thats all that matters. you can post shitty polls that mean nothing all you like if it makes you feel better though
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>>738431521
If you compare card art between 1 and 2, it's pretty obvious the Silent was sensitivity-read into becoming as sexless as possible.
But it's not even about specific examples. The problem is as much what's kept out as what's put in. Any number of cool ideas could have been vetoed or defanged to avoid the possibility of offending some grievance warrior somewhere. The very idea of a game being restrained by sensitivity-readers is horrible. Especially one with a history of waging a puritanical war against beloved games and trying to bully developers into complying with said puritanism.
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>>738431708
Define men.
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>>738431713
>open /pol/ catalog
>see you're blatantly lying about the political distribution
>close /pol/
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>>738431713
yet youre shitting your little pantaloons here after someone decided to make fun of drumpf while demanding people that disagree with you leave >738431408
this cope isnt going the way youre hoping lil bro, you should continue to beg jannies to delete the thread to save you tho
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>>738430380
They want to double the customerbase the same way they doubled the workforce, every leftist cause just happens to align with the financial interests of wealthy capitalists, they are the goodest of goys.
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>>738431671
I did answer, and I wasn't referring to Slay the Spire in particular. I'm talking generally about games being terraformed for the purpose of diversity and inclusion, because it being a predominantly male hobby is seen as bad somehow.
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>>738425669
>Seething foid finally reveals themselves
good job lads. Didn't need to put a lot effort into that
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Shalom, sadists
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>>738431513
remind me who's the President right now tranny
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>>738431882
>I-I don't know but......
Lol
youve been doing this for 14 years, youre more than 30 years old now and you still cant properly explain to yourself why you believe the things you do

youre a literal waste of life
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>>738431892
No
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>>738424040
because women should play games, if they do that, gaming will stop being marginalized "get a job man-children" hobby.
so, if you are a zoomer like me, YOU have an obligation to engage with females that play games to remove the rest from the gene pool.
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>>738431994
King Pedo
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>the same handful of reddit trannies have been coming to /v/ for literal years at this point to tell people to have sex and post retarded infographics

Trump is the President. You will never be a woman.
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>>738432116
You will never be with a woman.
Trans rights are human rights.
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>>738432116
Trannies would be posting cute art. It's the jews.
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>>738432186
dangerously based
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>>738431947
>you should continue to beg jannies to delete the thread to save you tho
Amazing example of projection.
The only one who has even made this suggestion is you. It's very suspicious that you brought this up out of nowhere, twice, and it's laughably telling that the first thought you associate with losing is to flip the table, like you attempted here >>738430019
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>>738429725
Men have more consumer debt, no.
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>>738432114
What about this one tranny?
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Why are they like this? Aren't they embarrassed?
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>>738432251
put him in prison too
why do you think this is some kind of epic own against the left
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>>738432186
>>738432218
kek r/gamingcirclejerk trannies
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>>738432186
Trannies have every right that humans have.
The "rights" they demand are the right to dictate speech, to invade the private spaces of others and to groom children. These are not rights which humans possess.
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Morons.
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>>738432251
Do you think anyone here voted for Bill? Do you even know what years he was president?
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>>738432114
Yeah Trump is a faggot and basically a libtard. Still the President though so I don't know how you can claim anyone 'lost'
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>>738432040
>completely ignore the post presented, to spout irrelevant nonsense with a side of attempted shaming
You just keep proving my point, obsessive culture warrior.
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>MY side is better than your side!
Retards lmao
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>entire thread proves that leftists are completely incapable of engaging in good faith, and will always lie, deflect, and misdirect while being the most aggressively retarded people you will ever engage with
It just never stops being true, does it?
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>>738428723
>Sims before sims 4 (EA started marketing to women and trannies)
>Animal crossing
>pokemon
>stardew valley in the beginning
>fire-emblem pre-awakening
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>>738432494
Why would someone be on a side they think is bad, or opposed to someone they think is good?
You didn't think this through.
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>>738432541
dont act like this doesnt apply to every chud on this site too lmao
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Why must every thread here devolve into politics
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>>738432542
now explain how leftism or diversity or feminism ruined any of these
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>>738432432
>how was the creative spirit of Slay the Spire 2 altered?
>"uhhh I dunno .... but think about what could have been left out? huh? ever think about that??"

you are 30 years old
you've been making these threads for 14 years

and the only answer you have for yourself as to why youve wasted your life is
>just think about the things to be outraged over!
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>>738432541
Why did you expect something different?
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>>738431310
This. While also raping western kids to death
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>>738432669
thank epstein
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>>738432673
Nta but we will never get any dragon age after flopguard.
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>>738432604
Idiot lol
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>>738432780
true but EA has been happily killing studios and franchises continually since the early 90s
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>>738432667
Rent-free lmao
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>>738432694
Bodied that fag
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>>738432829
Finally we come to an agreement.
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>>738432541
I've noticed they have a particular approach that goes beyond simple, instinctual dishonesty. They always make a half-assed argument, then ignore your good-faith response to launch a nonsense attack, then eventually pretend to make an argument again in the hope of slipping it past the goalie. When they are losing decisively they will simply attempt to nuke the thread with baiting bullshit like >>738430019
Make no mistake, they are innately dishonest. But they are also intentionally employing a playbook full of rampantly dishonest strategies.
You really don't hate leftists enough.
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>>738432903
can love really blossom on the battlefield?
>>
Jew
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>>738424040
It happened with Football too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWhZ2XS08aQ
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>>738432704
I don't expect different, but I will call it out when I see it.
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>>738432917
Like Pic rel.
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>>738432903
It never fails to make me laugh how the most vitriolic misogynistic manchildren portray themselves as harmless little cartoon frogs
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>>738432871
this site is a cesspool in general
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>>738424040
Most hobbies are male-dominated because women don't have hobbies.
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>>738424040
>suits or consultants (usually activist in nature) present companies with the fun little factoid that women control more spending in the first world
>companies chase this by trying to retool their products to appeal to women over men
>this includes having to install women in positions of power in their company, initially for financial diversity incentives
>but women immediately used their power (and the privilege of being shielded from immediate criticism/punishment by threatening lawsuits or blackmailing male suits with plans to cancel the company in the court of public opinion) to invite more women and sympathetic enabling men to further consolidate gynocentric power and influence
Star Wars is the most extreme and notable example of this in recent times.
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>>738432989
10 years of this nonsense. It makes me think you are a bad actor.
I don't browse this board often, so i don't know why i care either.
Eat my ass
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>>738432694
>you've been making these threads for 14 years
Yesterday it was 12 years. What happened? Are you having trouble with numbers again?
>and the only answer you have for yourself as to why youve wasted your life is
The longer and more desperately you camp these threads and post your culture warrior screeds and culture warrior images, the more hilarious it becomes. Nobody is even slightly fooled by your pretense at being a well adjusted individual. You are a paid propagandist or worst, you are an activist with an obsession that dwarfs that of any other anon in this thread.
>>738432880
As if you couldn't get any more pathetic, you had to make it worse for yourself by samefagging.
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It started out as a mainly male hobby and lasted like that until the mid 2000's. I'd say the Wii opened up games to all ages and genders on a more socially acceptable level, and then games that are fun for both genders (farming games, Minecraft, the Sims) really exploded in popularity.

Nintendo has firmly placed itself into a family market for all ages, Mario Kart is now a game that everyone plays. Animal Crossing and Pokemon are also pretty close to 50/50 in terms of male/female playership.

The reason that this is good is that it diversifies the market, and there are now games that aim just for male or female markets, in addition to games that aim for everyone.

The reason that this is bad is that it can dilute some series to try to appeal to a wider audience, ruining what made the original concept of a game series interesting to the initial audience. I used to care about this kind of thing, but I don't anymore. If a game series goes a direction I don't like, I just don't buy it. I'm spoiled with choice now and I sometimes play horny games and I sometimes play artsy inclusive indie RPGs. There are good examples of both.

Things change, games are more popular than ever, so the ratio of inclusive stuff is higher, but there's also just a net positive of OG basement dweller mancave games too, so who fucking cares.
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>all this gender-war shitflinging
>the same insults and talking points being constantly recycled from previous similar threads
>almost always guaranteed to start the moment an anon mentions anything gender-related
I feel like these kinds of threads are now just incoming disaster zones for some of the most inane debates that really go nowhere.
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>>738433183
Based.
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>>738433192
It's fun
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>>738426752
>Women will never be a viable audience for video games.
This. Outside of mentally ill women, dykes, and femcels, video games are inherently male as it's the one medium that is a companion to the male psyche and brain. Has been since the very beginning.
Men naturally move away from a thing that is over 60% women, that is why you see male college attendence crashing.
If women didn't like it and wanted them to take up more noble persuits, then maybe you shouldn't have squeezed men out of everything else like literature.
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>>738433108
>you're the bad actor, not the people openly being bad actors in this thread by spewing dishonest garbage while you try to make solid arguments
Absolutely astounding.
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>>738431568
It seems to be going pretty well since the gaming industry has roughly doubled in market value over the past decade
If you base your perception of the industry on an echo chamber like /v/ I don't think you'll end up with an accurate viewpoint.
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>>738433192
>the most inane debates that really go nowhere
If you actually pay attention, you will notice that it's always one side (delibeately) dragging it in that direction, and it ain't the chuds.
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>>738433183
Really, the whole thing is just a double-edged sword like most hobbies when they become extremely mainstream. You do bring up a good point that people seem to gloss over, which is that there's just a lot more games being made in general, especially autistic ones that appeal to said mancave gamers. Really the only real negative is that gaming now has a ton of eyes on it, so it's inevitable that you'll see a bunch of retarded takes on the space.
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>>738424040
because we could be making so much more money if we ignore the demographic that already likes games and hard focus on making video games for the group of people explicitly NOT interested in video games!!!!
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>>738433323
>the gaming industry has roughly doubled in market value over the past decade
mtx is to blame for that, much of it selling sex to lonely men and women in their respective horny games.
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>>738433323
Gaming has become mainstream and women still are highly underrepresented as consumers. Chasing them is simply not that profitable.
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>>738433183
Veering/course correcting too hard is also retarded in the end. Like when a male writer discovers his writing appeals to women, some times they somehow think they didn't write a straight enough story and overcompensate so hard they lose both audiences.
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>>738433183
I think it was actually the PS2. The Wii played a part but the PS2 was insanely successful.
I know a lot of women who started gaming because their brother bought a PS2.
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>>738429738
Thanks again for conceding! >>738430836 >>738430780
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Imagine Fire Emblem and Story of Seasons being made exclusively for straight men. The romance would be far more fleshed out because they don’t have to waste countless hours developing content for women and gay dudes.
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>300 posts
>screeching about orange hitler starts
>not a single lefty can refute that catering to women and being more inclusive is not about allowing women to buy male oriented games, it means catering to their sensibilities and changing games to remove content they deem "problematic" and "sexist"
Because deep down every lefty know it's the endgoal of muh-inclusion, but admitting it means they lose the argument on the basket weaving forum. Many such cases!
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>>738424040
missing out on the input of half of the population of the planet is bound to make videogames that are inherently missing on something. the human experience can be extracted from many places after all
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>>738430019
But you lost everything in the last election? Lol
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>>738433192
I think everyone loves every thread being the same processed, ritualistic, vapid talking points they've seen or talked about before. As much as this place claims to be different from other echchambers like twitter or reddit, they have 1:1 behavioral patterns.
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>>738433596
Go ring up Ngubu and Chang about their opinions on QTEs
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>>738433403
I mean that's part of it but it isn't the only reason
>>738433434
The Sims 4 alone generates hundreds of millions in revenue from DLC sales every single year
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>>738433460
PS2 being a DVD player for mass appeal, and the Final Fantasy series was also popular with women.
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>>738433291
Well you're a bad actor too or you're new to this. With your "imagine if the roles were reversed" tier rhetoric
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>>738433596
>missing out the input of people who aren't interested in or aligned with the hobby makes the hobby worse
Forced, inorganic congributions are worth nothing.
People who only participate in something as a result of an ideological push have nothing to add.
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>>738424160
>>738424560
>That didn't happen.
>And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
>And if it was, that's not a big deal.
>And if it was, then you deserved it.
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>>738433717
>The Sims 4 alone generates hundreds of millions in revenue from DLC sales every single year
We are speaking broadly, not about the one in a million game that women actually play. Changing games women don't play to appeal to women is retarded.
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>>738433183
Ehhhhh, I have no problems with girls having their farming games and yumejoshi dating sims and twink faggot shit. The only problem is they start going into male oriented franchises and demand change
>see star wars
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>>738433192
It's just typical troll farm BS and people that get caught up in it thinking they're part of some kind of team. Pretty sure a good chunk of it is just to simulate/inflate user base for ad revenue.
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>>738433757
>Well you're a bad actor too
Please explain your reasoning.
>With your "imagine if the roles were reversed" tier rhetoric
Please show me which rhetoric you are referring to.
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>>738433904
Is this counting "eye rape" and overhearing a sexual joke one time?
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>"Sexual Violence Against Women Remains Problematic and Highly Prevalent Around the World" (PubMed/NIH — peer-reviewed)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10134525/

xD
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Because the best type of art is the one that can be enjoyed and appreciated by everyone. The state of modern literature is a pretty good example: Men have mostly retired from reading books, which means the vast majority of book readers, buyers and writers are women, and books are mostly written to appeal to women, and the results are fucking dire.
Humanity is composed of two halves, and neglecting one will inevitably harm the other
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>>738433578
It really is amazing how reliable this phenomenon is. You could set your watch by it.
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>>738424040
pic related:
everything must have an issue to be subverted in order to help the commie Revolution: create a us vs. them because happy people don't kill the other "bad half" of population to bring the earthly utopia through a dictatorship
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>>738433904
>>738433990
Don't care. I'm a Trans Inclusionary Radical Misogynist. Get fucked, cissoids.
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I think we are being raided by sharty?
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>>738433884
Star Wars wasn't really for gamers and it was initially made for mass appeal as a movie. Then it got bought by Disney. I don't think applying it to the games industry is really a good example.

Early Star Wars games were made for the mostly male market, but when a movie series has been milked for decades the mainline products are going to be watered down versions of their original selves. If you're lucky there might be a good spin-off game. But it's Star Wars. It's a franchise that's so big it attracts neo-nazis and furry communists, and people that are somehow both at the same time.
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>>738424994
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
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>>738433995
>Because the best type of art is the one that can be enjoyed and appreciated by everyone.
This is the most untrue statement that has ever been uttered on this form.
No art can be appreciated by everyone. Trying to appeal to everyone is the death of art.
Trying to appeal to people who aren't interested in a hobby is the death of a hobby. It strips it down and destroys what it offers for the sake of people who were never interested in it in the first place.
Art is best served by niches being allowed to exist.
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>>738433862
Well do you have any statistics for the broader industry that support your point?
Aside from that, I can only point to anecdotes of the women I've met in online games like FFXIV who spent hundreds every month on playing dressup and decorating houses. How many games would I have to name before you stop considering them one in a million occurrences?
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>>738424040
Because men are only 50% of the market and women are the biggest consumer whores. Blame the capitalism you love so much.
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LOL
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>>738433904
>>738433990
>>738434127
video games?
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>>738433958

Don't forget regret rape.
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>>738434051
100%
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This whole thread reminds me of the Occupy Wallstreet Movement.

Where the plebs get infiltrated and rage baited from the inside and completely ruined while the core problems that everyone can agree on are ruined because of some insane dumb bullshit.

Just want to say hello to the FBI, CIA and Mossad in this thread. Also, say hello to your corporate overlords you subhumans.
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>>738434096
Qrd on "m" in filenames?
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>>738434051
sharty is dead doe
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>>738433578
Bingo.
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>>738434089
>women I've met in online games like FFXIV
lol
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>>738434089
>Well do you have any statistics for the broader industry that support your point?
Do you?
>How many games would I have to name before you stop considering them one in a million occurrences?
Obviously "one in a million" is hyperbole. But naming individual games isn't going to cut it. They are still going to be exceptions rather than the rule. Broadly, women do not engage with games in a high enough number to be relevant to the hobby. The existence of specific games that appeal to women does not change this. Even if women did participate in gaming more broadly, it would still be retarded to take male-dominated titles/franchises and gut them to appeal to women.
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>>738434087
>No art can be appreciated by everyone. Trying to appeal to everyone is the death of art.

You are conflating two very different statements. Art that can be appreciated by everyone is seldom art that has been MADE to be appreciated by everyone. The core elements and components of art are something that can appeal to everyone, and we have an entire history of humankind to prove it, with civilizations all across the globe and humanity's existance enjoying, appreciating and fostering the arts regardless of gender. Social norms would sometimes bar women from producing said art, but never from consuming it. Art being split in 'things for men' and 'things for women' is a relatively modern thing, and very closely related to its perversion through commercialization
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>>738434089
>FFXIV
>women
You poor bastard
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>>738434214
Nope like 30k monthly traffic.
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>>738434162
Oh yeah, that's a big one.
And "I dreamed he raped me" too.
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>1 in 4 women experience severe intimate partner physical violence
xD
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>>738434051
>does nothing except making memes while whites are being raped irl
Sooo cooool bro MIGA!
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>>738434356
theres no fucking way its still that active after it went to complete shit last year
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>>738434184
I agree, grievance-whoring leftists ruin everything
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>>738434403
>that filename
kek
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>>738433907
>Please explain your reasoning.
You're acting like a culture warrior, which has been out of date for years now. So yeah, you come across as a bad actor.
>Please show me which rhetoric you are referring to.
Pointing out leftist nature like it's still a surprise to anyone.

It's jews, lefties, and shartyniggers. Goodnight.
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>>738424040
if you haven't noticed, the powers that be are trying to turn all people, men and women, into an asexual golem so that every single person is the target audience for every single product
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>>738434184
Except this time, it's not the (((banks))) causing division. It's trannies who love that video games have adopted their ideology and want them to stay that way.
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>>738433904
3 in 4 women are liars
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>>738424040
Women spent 85% of disposable income, meaning they spent both their own money and that of men. They are also completely metarialistic morons that fall for advertisement. Everyone who enters an industry not with a love for the product but the sole intention to make money wants as many retards that make bad financial decisions as his customer base, hence why all advertisement is oriented around the most retarded creatures on earth: Women, children, non-whites and sportsfags, with women being the biggest group of them all.

To say that the biggest entertainment industry in the world, vidya, should remain to be predominently male is to deny countless sociopaths a paycheck.
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>>738434304
>Art that can be appreciated by everyone is seldom art that has been MADE to be appreciated by everyone.
I agree with this, and I think it demonstrates that games that are made for their audience will always be better, and ironically more appealing generally, than games that specifically try to embrace mass appeal.
>Art being split in 'things for men' and 'things for women' is a relatively modern thing, and very closely related to its perversion through commercialization
But that split isn't being forced. Men simply engage with games more.
Like I said at >>738433796 it's organic participation that matters.
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>>738434298
>>738434331
>every gamer gurl on the internet is a tranny
I'm aware of the amount of trannies playing FFXIV, but there are also plenty of actual women.
It's pretty easy to tell them apart because most trannies refuse to get on a voice call.
>>738434303
>Do you?
No, lol. The point of my last post was to say that I don't have whatever statistics would be acceptable to you. They just don't exist. I think citing the profitability of certain games is better than making an assertion based on nothing but a feeling.
>it would still be retarded to take male-dominated titles/franchises and gut them to appeal to women
I don't know why you're even arguing with me about this in the first place, my point is only that women gamers are a profitable sector.
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>>738434127
>>738434374
ok I'll bite. If the rape problem is so bad why do women vote to bring in men from countries with the highest rape rates? Enlighten me on this?
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>>738434587
>To say that the biggest entertainment industry in the world, vidya, should remain to be predominently male is to deny countless sociopaths a paycheck.
This explains why suits see it as bad, but not why rabid ideologues do.
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>>738433717
>I mean that's part of it but it isn't the only reason
china is a really big factor as well.
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>>738434696
Sorry, I'm used to getting nothing but bad faith arguments so sometimes I'm more defensive than I need to be with someone arguing in good faith.
I don't think our positions are mutually exclusive.
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>>738434420
>>It's actually 1mil
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>>738434797
Fair enough, I can relate.
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>>738434823
'teens... we are so back.
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>>738434587
But this doesn't fucking work, and I wish they'd realize it. 99/1000, when they change shit from men to women, it flops.
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>>738434685
>that games that are made for their audience will always be better, and ironically more appealing generally, than games that specifically try to embrace mass appeal.

Once more you are conflating one statement with the other, but I can tell that you do understand what I mean here, so I won't push it more. What I mean to say in the end is that art CAN be appreciated by everyone, and that in fact that is the best type of art, because it means it's taking from the breadth of human experience instead of 'i should focus only on what my audience will enjoy/relate'

Everyone has a feminine side. Every man is able to, in more or less intensity, understand and empathise with elements and ideas that are inherently feminine, which is why removing the feminine element entirely is bound to create a story that is lacking (and, of course, this works the other way around as well)
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>>738434706
When they mean "rapists," they mean white people. It's that simple. No amount of stats or figures showing that white men don't rape anywhere near as much as other races will ever resonate with them.
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>>738434127
that also happened in Brasil around 2009
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>leftard lost so hard he starts spamming irrelevant bullshit in an attempt to derail
Many such cases
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>>738428574
Holy smokes, you raped that faggot.
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>dumb nigger thinks I'm leftist when I actively shit on women and their problems
xD
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>>738428574
>but ZAM Leon's ass is PHAT
Funny thing is DESPITE all that, resident evil's buying power is 80% men with an average age of 38. Women schlick to tiktok edits and don't play the game.
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Why do biological men want a hobby that once catered to them to not cater to them again?
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>>738428574
Well fucking said.
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The forty year old t-mobile employee of two decades got banned again off xitter for the fiftieth time so he’s moved here to spam his garbage.
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>>738438354
Where do people even get all the time and energy to do this shit? Like just fucking chill.
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>>738424040
women hate men. they hate men so much that they adopt male oriented hobbies specifically to ruin them.
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>>738425416
I hate women, and men are funny, dumb, and cute
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Women spend more money than men and more impulsively. So if the Jews can get women into gaming, the income of the industry will quadruple.
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>>738424040
Men by nature are evil.
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>>738429860
What makes something a real fallacy? Because this is one, "why do you care" is in no way, shape or form an argument. I could call it deflection or an implied ad hominem if it makes you feel better.
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>>738431228
It isn't, but that's the form it organically took. Changing it for aimless ideological reasons is at best pointless.
Now answer the original question.
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>>738424160
don't lie
>>738424040
Roasties can't fucking stand guys having fun without them
also women spend more money than men so any industry that makes money would rather have female consumers than male ones
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>>738425028
they want women in game dev for the same reason they want jeets and AI. to lower wages. women make less money because if an industry is full of women that's double the labor pool
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>>738428723
Does Dead by Daylight count?
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>>738424040
Because I want a woman who shares at least part of my hobbies. Especially the kind of hobbies we can do together.
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They let unqualified women have office jobs.
They put them in positions of power.
They gave them everything.
And now men pretending to be women.
Are doing the same thing.
Vidya is now a cesspool of estrogen huffing queens.
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>>738444574
>Wants a gamer gf
You think you do, but you really don't.
Your hobbies man
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>>738445251
what part of "part of my hobbies" did you not understand? You need to have at least SOMETHING in common to relate with another human being. Unless you only want a fuck hole in which case a dakimakura with an onahole is cheaper in the long run and with less drama.
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>>738424040
everything has to be for everyone so that megacorporations can get richer
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>>738424840
this but unironically
truly sorry (jk) for jadedfaggots but they never liked vidya in the first place
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>>738446142
Yeah but videogames is not your only hobby, right? Surely you are a functional adult with plenty of hobbies to share with other people, right?
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>>738446302
>I consume slop without having any standards at all, and people who want good games are the ones who don't like video games
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>>738446439
dont care jadedfaggot
die alone and miserable
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>>738446509
>wishing death on other because he has to hear criticism of games he thinks he likes once in a while
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>>738433958
Yes. Getting "touched inappropriately" also counts. Basically the one time some cunt at school assumed I slapped her ass for whatever fucking reason counts as rape.
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>>738446142
Similar mindsets is more important than similar interests
Also generally gamer girls make terrible gfs
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>>738446364
I have tons of hobbies and open to falling for more of them, at least the kind of hobbies that aren't stupid and expensive like audiophilia and that require huge living spaces like blacksmithing. Videogaming is a medium of entertainment like movies, or TV series and I would like if a future gf was at the very least casually interested in videogames so we can play shit together. Of course being too obsessed with one thing at the cost of others is a turn off.
>>738447315
>Also generally gamer girls make terrible gfs
Not that I 100% disagree with that sentiment but do I spot a bit of projection here?
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>>738447745
>Projection
Not my own experiences but those of people I've known. Specifically discord gamer girls(not e-dating, irl women)
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Is this what this site is now? Just endlessly relitigating the 2010s culture war that it lost?
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>>738448030
Wasn't Trump winning for a second time and officially banning the vast majority woke shit and creating an anti-woke army a victory?
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>>738424040
It's not, you're just being a dick about it
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>>738448030
These are the only kinds of threads that move cause culture war flame wars are fun
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>500 posts of the same chud samefagging for hours on end

Holy shit lmao
How did he lose the thread this badly
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>>738448030
This place is so fucking lame now. It's not even fun any more. It's just boring. The exact same fucking shit for a decade and a half. It's so boring I'm actually going to do my stupid desk job and fill in excel sheets.
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>>738448415
I noticed that whenever the republicans are starting to have really abysmal polling numbers, they start trying to push old gamergate talking points hoping that they'll get a boost from the fervent cultists
This never works anymore since the 2016 election really was lightning in a bottle and the current set of right wingers are all brown third worlders
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>>738448415
its funny how you can really tell it was all one person since all the long-winded sephiroth posts stopped being made all at once >>738432917 >>738433578

must have gone to bed lol
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>>738448654
Honestly, like 90% of the discourse on this board is dominated by a handful of terminally online autists with a pathological need to make everyone agree with them. People without actual jobs and without real problems in the world who can just afford to bitch all day that a video game ten years ago wasn't made exactly to their liking.
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>>738448415
>>738448536
>>738448654
>>738449081
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>>738448415
Brown
>>738448536
gamingcirlcejerk
>>738448654
gamingcirclejerk
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>>738428168
Education, retard.
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>>738449081
Cool. Go deal with your real problems and actual jobs and don't come back faggot
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>>738424160
>>738424560
God leftists truly are incapable of arguing in good faith
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A tale as old as time.
>men do literally anything
>women get mad and want to change/ruin it
It goes from media all the way to self care even.
Just look at how comparably honest misogny is compared to misandry. Misogyny is straight up with what it is. But with misandry its all men's fault that women would be misandrist. Because "women would never!"

Women are still centuries away from the emotional maturity needed to participate in society.
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>>738448030
>culture war
Even thinking this was ever a thing, makes you a collossal terminally online faggot.
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>>738424040
Some out of touch boomers in a boardroom were convinced there’s an untapped market of female gamers who totally want to play CoD and StarCraft 2.
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because they make less money if they exclusively target men, retard. are you a socialist? do you think that companies shouldn't pursue the best and most wide reaching possible product through competition?
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>>738450235
if your answer differs from this you are an illiterate retard
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>>738450274
>because they make less money if they exclusively target men, retard
Many franchises make less money now than they used to. Which is why AAA is having a crisis to begin with. The costs dont reflect the income. The "exponential growth with new audiences" has not occured at all. Your psyop of "untapped audiences" is failing.
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>>738450230
Is this that leftoid thing where they just pretend something didn't happen? I wasn't even saying anything opposing you and you're still doing it.
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>>738449994
Yeah, like that, except I don't even know if there's that many of them really
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>>738450409
What makes you say he's a leftist?
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>>738424040
males aren't allowed to have safespaces or they might discover there's more to life than being subservient to foids or suits
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>>738450343
They haven't caught up the meta which is making cheaper, concept-driven games. Look at MOUSE P.I. and how people slobbered over it despite it being an objectively mediocre at best game. Suits are retarded and think that infinite money projects that make infinite money are realistic in an economy like this.

mouse P.I. is also a woke game btw where the main antagonists are nazis
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Well aside from the fact that you’d be doubling your potential market by making games that cater to women and men, I think it’s also because women are big spenders. Men will pirate shit, or wait for discounts, or just not play shit if they can’t afford it. Women will just blow through their pay checks the moment they get it.
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>>738424040
>Be vidya studio
>CEO wants even more money, opens up to public investment
>Weirdos with little hats throw BILLIONS into our company, own like 49% of it!!!
>They don't even ask for much, they just ask for lots of gays, niggers, transgenders, etc in our games
>Whoops game flopped like a motherfucker! QUICK! QUICK! WE NEED MORE MONEY!
>IDEA! WOMEN ARE NOT BUYING OUR GAMES!
>WE COULD DOUBLE OUR CURRENT PROFITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>MORE WOMEN IN GAMES, MORE WOMEN FOCUS!
>Game flops harder
>WTF???
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>want to sell games to more people for money
>hope to achieve this by selling games to women
>don’t know how to appeal to women so decide to hire women to work on your game
>the only women interested in making games are fat ugly dykes and trannies
>as a result they infest your game with fat ugly dykes and trannies
>your game now appeals to less people than before and flops because of it
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>>738448194
It's not about the victory for some people. They need to endlessly kvetch about some topic.

It would be like if the Mets won the world series and then baseball was just over forever. These shits are here for season 10 of the culture war to cheer for their favorite anti-woke player. One victory is just a trophy to collect for that point in time.
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>>738426953
>Women
Mentally ill trannies aren't women
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>>738450674
Women are even easier to turn into addicts/whales than men are. There are middle aged women with four tablets on at once so they can collect the daily free shit on Monopoly Go multiple times.

Mercy has 45 fucking legendary skins for a reason.
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>>738450674
>you’d be doubling your potential market by making games that cater to women and men
This is the delusion yes, it also almost never works because men and women are different and different things appeal to them. Cant really cater to one without sacrificing catering to the other.
Then again you are a bot dumb enough say
>women and men
so obviously you wouldnt recognize an obvious truth for what it is
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>>738424040
because noseberg wants women's money too
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>>738450409
The leftoid classic is pretendig that something obvious doesnt exist, if that fails then pretending to not understand the issue.
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>>738429051
>Emotional labour
Jej
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female gamers are less common than male gamers but when they play games they're into cool stuff like DMC or SMT while moids play LoL and CoD
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>>738451476
You dumb nigger, I’m speaking through the perspective of the executives who make these decisions. I don’t believe in what I wrote. Fucking retard.
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>>738451669
>OBVIOUSLY the culture war exists, I mean, I'm seething at video game character designs on the internet, and presumably so are other people in the other direction, that's basically a war, right

It's all class war, Anon. Obviously.
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>>738431871
> won
*rigged


ftfy
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>>738424040
>male
>dominate
sounds like fascism to me
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>>738451962
No you are not, execs dont work with logic like that. High level management is almost completely disconnected from the product being made, an excecutive in a large corporation does not even know what product the company is making much less how some aspects of that product might effect sales.

Since 99% of a large company CEO work is office politics to not get replaced, actually thinking about development boils down to
>hire X consulting firm to boost sales by Y percent because thats what happened with something else
>financial analysts say that the future is GAAS so we should focus on that
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>>738450409
Don't fall for jewish labels
>Culture warrior
>Alt right
>Maga
>Chud
You create a label and psyop people into adopting them and simplify and shut down discourse before it begins by demonizing these groups.
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>>738425627
It's true I discriminate against black yarn skeins because I knit at night and I like seeing what I'm doing.
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>>738429081
It's not about representation. It's about spite. It's about seeing people they hate enjoying something and wanting to take it away.
Women are, and always have been, extremely spiteful creatures.
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>>738425858
If my investments in the stock market can give me a 8-15% dividend per year then my investment in video games have to give more than that, yes it's less likely to succeed but if I hit it big I'm getting 300% or more of my investment back in 5 years.

If a company isn't making a game that seems like it could get 300% of my investment back to me in 5 years, I will not invest in it, I will continue to invest in stocks and other low to no risk.

Videogames don't have a place in the economy to be low-risk moneymakers, and the economy is ran by the rich.
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>>738424160
ammendment: no one worth listening to says it's a bad thing
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>>738424040
Its played under the guise of companies wanting a wider audience to sell more to but the roots of it is
>>738424075
Also women are petty bitches with nothing better to do, satanic panic and prohibition was caused by women
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>>738425934
In the course of a single thread, we have completed the meme. They denied it was happening, they asked why you even cared, and now they are at "it is happening and a good thing"
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>>738427009
A native English speaker would have written something like "This film is dedicated to the brave online schizophrenics" by the way.
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>>738425934
>>women no longer being discriminated against in videogame spaces

>>738424040
>Why is gaming mostly being a male-dominated hobby a bad thing?
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>>738428334
and then they immediately feminized and ruined it in season 2
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>>738430780
They're so fucking retarded and bad at this that I've been convinced it's some glowieshit to get us to feel satisfied slapping them around on here and not IRL
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>>738429006
Can you blame them? Every time they brand themselves as something we immediately start using the term as a joke and slur because they're that retarded. You'd think they'd take the hint.
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>>738430197
Yep. It's just the Left vs Normal People. Always has been.
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>>738431961
Not to mention them being used as a bucket of shit thrown over any actually useful left-wing ideas because now they're the Tranny and Groomer Party and will be forever until they clean house.
Useful idiots to the core.
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>>738424994
You dont have to imagine
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>>738424040
Its just waaaaahmen crying over mens attention being moved from them to vidya. Also oldfuck boomers jealous they cant figure out a controller to play vidya but can figure out how to sit in front of a tv and get brainwashed by jewish broadcasting for multiple hours per day.
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>>738434056
Star Wars was for men, however. The Heroes Journey is a distinctly MALE path and idea.
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>>738424040
It isnt
They tricked you
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>>738434184
It's also a healthy portion of painting any left-wing ideas (and there are good ones) with the same HomoGroomerTranny brush. It's so effective I doubt it's unintentional. These fucking useful idiots act against their interests as usual. Oh hey is that where they got that projection lmao
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>>738424040
up to 50% less sales? the line bro
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>>738434184
>>738456295
You do realise that if we posit that identity politics is a psy-op by the ruling class to divide us, then you're the ones it worked on, right?

>Yeah I used to support them but I just have to hate trannies more than I need to do something about banks
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>>738456648
Bankers didn't need their list of criminal spawn wiped from Wikipedia to save face.
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>>738449994
That's a Dick Circle!
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>>738425627
And you're supposed to think women could run things by themselves
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>>738456648
You're a meat shield that keeps the Repubs and their shitty ideas as the comparatively sane option. Think you moron.
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>>738424040
not a bad thing in of itself. There's always gonna be more women than men into fashion and stuff



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