I frankly don't see the issue.
>StarFox (SNES), StarFox 64, StarFox 64 3D, StarFox Zero, and now StarFox (Switch 2) all retell the same story with mostly the same settings and levels.
Everything about it looks good except the character designs. I never wanted realism in Starfox. 64 3D still looks the best.
>>738431032They seem like the rare furry character designs where the artist doesn't want to fuck them/isn't a furry, which is good, will need to see more of the game to really judge it though.
>>738431032It's the 4, FOURTH! Remake of the same game.
>>738431032furries can't imagine having sex with these animals without thinking about bestiality so they hate it
>>738431336And you will buy it again because you're starved
>>738431032I think going with the animal legs was a really stupid choice but overall it looks ok.
>>738431032I really hate the realistic fur rendering everyone has been trying to do since 7th gen. It looks like shit and always ruins what were originally fantastic cartoon mascot designs.
>>738431032I don't mind the redesigns, except for the legs. I get it's supposed to be more realistic, but it just looks weird that everyone has such tiny legs compared to everything else on their body. Cut off any picture of the redesigns at the knees, and I think it looks fine.The real issue is >>738431336Back when the rumors about this game were first coming out, I had no issue with a new game that was more in the same vein as 64 for a "classic" game. But just straight up remaking 64 again is fucking ridiculous at this point.
>>738431620Hold on, hold on just a sec, hear me outFluffy tail
>>738431328Non-furries designing furry designs is awful actually.
>>738431032Here's the thing>3 remakes in 15 years>5 times doing the same story>From a company that pretends like iterative direct sequels are badThat's it. Everything else is gay and optical. They're huge fucking faggots for not giving us a new game.
>>738431749actually its the opposite. when furries design anthros for games you get disgusting shit like incineroar
>>738431436You didn't have this opinion until you downloaded it from someone else on Twitter.
>>738431032They mostly look good except Falco. His face just doesn't have the right attitude, and his beak looks like it has monkey pox.
>>738431834You never had an issue with the previous games' designs until it came time to defend the newest game. That's all.
>>738431032Fat walleyed chudfoxI think overall the designs are ok but the desire to go back to puppet/realistic is a mistake, in my opinion, and some decisions like Katt is just "Why"I like Bill. There's just something funny about putting a real dog in a fighter jet and having it fight a flying saucer.
>it's yet another goddamn Nintendo IP where people defend terrible new changes with WELL THE WAY IT WAS FOR THE PAST SEVERAL DECADES WAS ALWAYS SECRETLY BAD ANYWAY and pretend it has some connection to the very first game to give it a false defense of seniority
>>738431032Only the mentally ill, terminally online coomers do, but their opinions don't fucking matter.
The issue is the SF franchise looks like this:>Original game>Remake>Star Fox Adventures>Star Fox Assault>Star Fox Command>Remaster of the Remake>Loose Remake of the Remake>Faithful Remake of the Remake
The designs are perfectly fine. The only issue I have is the VA work for Falco and Slippy
>>738431749Nah, good furry designs are stuff like old Star Fox, Donkey Kong Country, Fritz the Cat, bad furry designs are those clearly made by people who want to fuck furry animals, unless you are one of them, then it makes sense why you like it.
>>738431620I just hope that if it succeeds it'll lead to something new.
>>738431749Didn't /v/ hate the Spyro remake dragons because the designs were obviously done for furfags (or scaliefags)?
>>738431032Remakes are a symptom of zero creativity in big developers. Very sad to see.
>>738431912i never liked crystal, the old fox/falco/etc designs are good, but the new designs are also good. krystal is revolting
>>738431749thats how you get bugs bunny instead of braden the echidna
>>738431032I didn't like the redesigns at first, but they have some funny uncanny valley quality that makes them really amusing to watch. Right now I'm more worried about the voice acting.
>>738431032I'm on the same boat, I just don't like Falcon's design and think Fox and Slippy look a bit weird in some angles. Other than that don't have a major issue with it.The real issue is the game being SF64 again.
>>738431032Fox looks fine at a side angle, but then you look at him from the front, or God forbid see his legs, and it starts to fall apart. He looks amazing here, for example.That said, what >>738431809 said, where Star Fox has more remakes/retellings of 64 and the Lylat Wars story than actual original titles. I don't blame anyone for being unsure of what the future of this franchise looks like, especially considering we already got a fullblown remake of 64 with Zero.
>you now remember that Sakurai originally planned to make KIU a Starfox game before Miyamoto stepped in to helm 643Dand thats a good thing
The reason they're making SF64 again is because every time they didn't make SF64, people screamed and cried and pissed themselves and demanded SF64, and when it was SF64, it sold better. >Something differentNo sales, people don't talk about it.>Something similar but differentPeople complain and resent it>The same gamePeople buy it and mildly complain it's the same game but at least people like it.
>>738432468>i never liked crystal>but I like the boys!!!Yeah, anon. You're gay.
So they showed Adventures and Assault in the Direct, but are they actually going to be putting those games on the virtual console anytime soon?>>738432968Genuinely speaking, but Miyamoto needs to be put in a fucking retirement home at this point, and then have his room locked from the outside so he can never leave.
>>738431336Everyone saying that is just regurgitating bullshit.It's actually the first and only remake of Starfox 64.
>>738432976>every time they didn't make SF64, people screamed and cried and pissed themselvesBecause Command, Adventure and Assault all sucked.That doesn't mean remake 64 for eternity, it just means you need to make a better game. If they made something like Assault again, but it didn't suck ass you wouldn't have anyone complaining.
>>738433326Command sucks, Adventures and Assault are fine, and they should have continued this direction instead of kowtowing to 64fags who don't actually buy and support the series.
>>738433317>Erm akshually 643D and Zero weren't remakes because uhhhh.... I said soJust stop.
SOMEONE SHARE THE MUSIC PLEASE
>>738433518play zero
>>738433382>Adventures and Assault are fine
>>738433518>Remaster>RebootNeck yourself.
>if you prefer more aesthetically pleasing character designs, then you just want to fuck them and are a pervert degengood job using the same argument insane feminists use to justify ugly female designs, retards
>>738433842>if you prefer more aesthetically pleasing character designs, then you just want to fuck them and are a pervert degenThe Star Fox Mario Movie threads were just anons talking about gay sex with Fox.And the majority of people that still make Star Fox art are gay furries that want to see Fox get plowed by Wolf.
>>738433382Assault is literally 64, but kind of bad, and they make you do on-foot stuff and turret sections which are never as fun as a normal Arwing stage. I have no idea what you people see in it (other than Krystal's ass)
Everyone complaining about the characters is either a furfag who wants cereal mascots and gets off to pic related, or grifters scraping the bottom of the barrel for anything to complain about nintendo
>>738434015the on foot and tank sections were great. That one stage where you fly around a giant space station fighting star wolf and then you get to land inside it to go plant bombs on foot.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/675476Will Sakurai allow him in?
>>738434161>look mommy I posted it again!
>>738433910which is why we need more dedicated straightfur artists
>>738431032IF I CAN'T BEAT MY DICK TO IT NOBODY ELSE CAN!
>>738434216
FOX'S LEGS ARE NOT DIGITRIGRADE!!
The same retards who swore on their lives that the fan theory of all pilots being leg amputees was canon are now mad because the character's legs look like animal legs
>>738431032People will get used to the designs just like DK, it's nice they want to break away from the smash models they've been using for 20 years, and the game being an affordable price definitely helps
>>738434204they're just mediocre EDF levels.
>>738433564Game isn't out yet STOOPID
Maybe sometimes something new just sucks and you don't need to find a boogeyman to oppose to convince yourself that you like it out of spite.
>>738431748Go on.
>>738434424It's genuinely so fucking tiresome.>YOU ONLY DON'T LIKE THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE THIS PERSONI'm so sick of this zoomer faggot mentality.
>>738434424you're mad because it's trueit's a made up issue
>>738431620>I don't mind the redesigns, except for the legsThis is my exact take on it.I was actualy on board with the designs until I saw the legs>human hands>animal feetLooks so fucking awkward.
>>738434558I do think toon furries are upset their furry icon is in a style they dont like. The beastial furries are eating good.
>>738431328>They seem like the rare furry character designs where the artist doesn't want to fuck them/isn't a furryWhich is exactly why so many /v/iggers hate the designs. This place is full of faggots, furries and other types of degenerates.
>>738431032Only katt is the biggest issue for me. Everyone else looks fine.
>>738434667See >>738431912
>>738434617that looks betterDELETE THIS
I wish they could have remixed the SF(SNES) theme. It gets me hyped.
>>738431912>>738434732What about Star Fox Zero?
>>738431032NINTENDOHIRE THIS oh wait you already did.
>>738432368Nah, the Spyro remakes character designs weren't done by furfags either. The problem with the Spyro remakes was that the visual aesthetic got all shit up because of executive meddling and rushed deadlines, with Spyro 2/3 being almost fully outsourced. That character you posted is actually a pretty good example of how things got fucked up; his concept art gives him a way more muted color palette, with a lot more of the sort of scratchy, watercolor-y detail that fits PS1 Spyro, but whoever they had modeling/animating him was too focused on making everything generically cartoony so he lost the massive wings and the modeler missed the fact that his belly was flat like a Bearded Dragon (the species of lizard), not outright fat.
>furfag indie dev makes a paintover that fixes every issue with the new designs without fucking up the realistic artstyle
>>738434339I'm not mad because they have legs and aren't amputated I'm mad because they look like fucking cotton hill
>>738434870The SNES game's music has always been better. 64's soundtrack just seems like a bunch of discarded OoT tracks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eiTzRdN7Cohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrVpBIgFiFshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSvnRtI54k
>>738433842It's normal to want to fuck women, most people find it gross to want to fuck animals, anthropomorphic or not, though I would also find it stupid if people were shitting on a game for having a female who wasn't hot when it made sense, like if someone was mad that Angela in Silent Hill 2 wasn't hot like a girl from Dead or Alive, you can tell when a furry is drawing art, it comes off as if it was drawn by a mentally handicapped Tumblr artist like the Elephant form of Mario in Mario Wonder.
>>738434339it actually confirms it because they took his shins
>>738431032I don't have faith in the game because it is an actual 64 remake. They're using the same levels so you're paying for upgraded graphics, cutscenes, and online multiplayer. The actual singleplayer is the same. I also still think the designs are shit overall and I'm fucking hoping they don't use the again.
>>738431149Or you can get a disaster like most of the Metroid games. Japs are bad at writing stories.
>>738431032SIXTY FOOOOOUUUUURR
>>738431032I was just hoping that the series could evolve beyond the gameplay of the n64. Why we can't get something akin to ace combat or even rogue squadron is beyond me. Why can't we get a proper space shooter out of this series? We can't even get some decent multiplayer out of it. IIRC they said 3 fucking maps? We should have completely customizable ships and characters like 3 gens ago. Fuck this lame ass series, I can't think of anything from nintendo that squanders its potential so hard.>>738435104Just a few tweaks and I'd say that's the best they've ever looked.
>>738435765Star Fox assault's campaign was mediocre but it had an excellent multiplayer mode
>>738431149*Not Zero
>>738436154Zero is absolutely yet another SF1/Lylat Wars retelling you coping faggot.
I think it looks fine, but unhealthy long term for it to be a lasting rebrand. Fox looks like a fox with clothes. I can't imagine 10 years of this, assuming we get another star fox game before 2036
>>738436274>another retard who didn't own Wii U nor play the game tries to bullshitWhy are you literally like this? First level is Corneria, you enter a time portal and play a completely different game.
>>738431032Star Fox games and Dragon Ball games are very similar in that they keep on retelling the same story in most games.
>>738436340If you can't explain what was meaningfully different about SFZ without spamming>HURR DURR YOU JUST DIDN'T PLAY ITyou have no leg to stand on.
>>738435104They really fucked up falco the mostSeems difficult to get a flattering angle for him when the beak is nerfed
>>738435104I don't know why they were so autistic to make falco look like a normal bird but fox looks more like a fucking dog than a goddamn foxI'm honestly floored this is apparently an in-house thing, this shit reeks of a terrible outsourced remake
>>738436340>you enter a time portalNo you fucking don't, you lying faggot. It's the exact same story as 64 with the same kind of minor alterations that existed between 64 and SFSNES.
The problem is Star Fox 64 is unbeatable
>>738436569You stupid no games FAGGOT, you can't lie to me, I own this game and have played it.
>>738436472It's been speculated in other threads, but I bet part of the reason the designs got so raped is to make them easier to work in the retarded mocap software. Large beaks are notoriously weird looking from a front-facing angle.
>>738436626>if i repeat my retarded headcanon lie enough, it'll come true!
>>738434161>/threadI swear if you faggots get these designs downgraded because of your whining similar to the sonic movies (the sonic design is a rare case where it was necessary to change the look because it was just bad) I will never buy another Nintendo game.
>>738436340It's the video game equivalent of A New Hope vs. The Force Awakens. They remix some stuff, but it's absolutely reusing the same plot points and tropes.>opening on Corneria>big fleet battle between Corneria and Venom>stage where you blast through asteroid field>stage where you have to protect Great Fox from big missiles>Star Wolf fight on Fichina>teammate gets shot down over planet Titania, necessitating Fox go down there in the Landmaster to rescue them>knockoff Area 6 sequence where you blast through a bunch of defense satellites>final boss is Andross headetc etc. There's not a single new planet or location introduced in Zero besides the artificial space colony and I guess the redesign of Fortuna, and there are no new characters whatsoever, right down to reusing boss portraits from 64 as the generic pilots of enemy spaceships.
>>738436635>left looks like a falcon>right looks like a parrot/tloz rito knock off
>>738436564Yeah falco looks like a parakeet more than a falcon. And I had the same confusion with it being inhouse. It feels like they committed to facial capture early which just looks weird and uncanny on animal faces. It feels even more weird coming right off the heels of the movie design.
>>738431149
>>738436765They should fix the designs, cut the price in half and then make a real starfox game.
>>738436635Looking at it now, there would also be a fulcrum-effect happening with a longer beak: small movements of the mouth would lead to large movements of the beak. He'd be opening his beak noticeably with every word - it'd be distracting.
>>738432074>Zelda>Donkey Kong>Star FoxWhat's gonna be the next victim of "Superficial appeal to the original, but it's actually shit"?
>>738436932lmao, is this OC?
>>738432074Why are we pretending Star Fox's sales and reception haven't been a fucking rollercoaster since 64? The only game that's not controversial after its release is Assault. There's no secret here, the series needs a big shake up if you're gonna make people give a shit again, cuz Zero was conservative in every possible way and even the Wii Us limited audience didn't care about it.Not that a next gen remake of 64 is shooting for the stars but just the fact this fucking looks fresh visually after being stuck with low poly aesthetics since the late 00s, and the storytelling is getting away from the furry soap opera that plagued the series for three decades immediately makes it more interesting than the past couple of games. I hope this is laying a foundation for an actual future for the series.
>>738431032It's the fifth remake of the Lylat wars in less than 30 years and you don't see the issue?
>>738431620Is this pose based on something? Why does Fox look like a 90s skaterbro? I don't like anything about this, and it looks 10x worse in the cinematics/animations.Genuinely one of the ugliest games I've ever seen, and I thought it couldn't get worse than that shit on the complete opposite end of the spectrum with those eye cancer-inducing Mario movies.I imagine this stupid ass game will have dialogue just as embarrassing/cringy. Paired with the hyperrealistic models? I'll take the gun before I play this shit.THE ONLY saving grace is that it'll presumably be fun to play, but like, who the fuck is going to pay $70 for Star Fox 64? It's like a three hour game, and if they don't dedicate a lot of time to actually making the levels/replays have a lot of value then what the fuck? People are just going to play Ace Combat. Nintendo is under this delusion that the video game market is still as small, contained, and largely uncomplicated as it was 30 years ago.When the fuck are these executives going to die out and let their next generation actually develop vidya without mandatory input/oversight from hasbeens?Iwata dying was far from enough. Should've taken the whole pack with him.
>>738436340why lie
>>738431032As much as I love SF64, the series really needed to move beyond it.
>>738436848I mean Falco has never resembled a Falcon before, despite his name.
>>738437060Yes
>>738436635>>738436867>>738437202He's a Vietnamese pheasant.
>>738437039Kirby has been doing that shit stealthfully longer than all three.
I feel like fags in here haven't actually played Zero and are just insisting it's just a StarFox 64 remake when it was a series reboot that failed. Like shit, I remember when it came out and fags were wondering why the fuck it had time travel shit and multiverse shit in it.
>>738437224thank you for your service.
>>738437263>it's just a StarFox 64 remake when it was a series reboot that failed.I mean it can be both. StarFox 64 was a series reboot that succeeded.
>>738437250The only drastic change Kirby's had in years is Forgotten Land, and that game was actually liked. I don't understand this point.
>>738434617I still don't want realistic animals no matter what, but that looks a hell of a lot better.
>>738437290tomorrow chads win again
>>738431032Same, they remind me of the original puppets from the SNES box.
>>738431834Incineroar is a shit tier design because he was designed by some retarded westaboo that liked looney tunesAll his flowers come from off-model barafag porn.
>>738437263I thought it was okay until the female alternate universe Fox hijacked the story.
>>738437334i just wish slippy looked more like a froghe always had frog eyes until command (surprise surprise) ruined it by making his pupils all human like. even in SNES and 64 he had frog bar eyes to make him less creepy
>>738437263Does nobody remember back when it was coming out how Ninty kept saying shit like>It's not a sequel, but it's also not a reboot. It's a "retelling."They knew it was just a rehash of 64 and were trying to come up with some diplomatic way to phrase it.
>>738437443And also the name ZERO should've clued people off.
I get what they were going for, they wanted that Rocket Racoon Guardians of the Galaxy look mixed with the original puppets. The problem is that it’s just not marketable. Anthropomorphic furry characters walk a very fine line. If their eyes posture or fur are too animal like or realistic, the whole aesthetic goes out the window.I see Starfox visually as a series like Solatorobo or Fuga. Let’s be real here, these sort of games are for teens and kids. You want characters to be attractive and easily drawable to appeal to that anime crowd. You watch with Starfox 2026 now, it’ll get 8/10’s on release and people will forget about it after because there’s nothing fans can latch on to in terms of aesthetics. Look at Adventure, a 7.1/10 adventure game carried by memories of Krystal.
>>738431252The characters are not even be able to sprint down the hall like this because of their hunchback designs and broken, backwards twig legs.Fox especially looks weak and mangled. he does not look like he's capable of doing this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pMnQ46GCEo
Why are people excited for a remake that ruins the original by adding more graphixshit and cutsceneshit? Why have people become snoys?
>>738437423>until the female alternate universe Fox hijacked the story.what?
>>738437383that nigga MOVED!
>>738437604Did I stutter?
>>738437617why fox mad at us :(
I didn't read the thread but I think the game and the characters look excellent and I'll be buying the game and a Switch 2 to play it on release. Thanks for asking and reading.
>>738437557>The problem is that it’s just not marketableIt's marketable, what do you mean? It's just that Rocket works because from the beginning his design incorporated the more realistic legs (dude is just a Raccon that stands upright) while Star Fox has always had anthropomorphic characters. So suddenly shifting them to a more realistic look and accurate animal parts looks off-putting. Especially weird that it's only the feet too. Like if you're going to do that, do something like Falco who's got his wing arms. Don't give Fox human hands, gloves and torso, then suddenly decide you want him to have fox feet.
>>738437679I didn't ask and I didn't read but I'm happy for you.
>>738431032Wait, am I the only one that finds Fox hot here?
>Animal Crossing was raped by [OTHER GAME] in the niche subgenre doing relaxing life sim elements infinitely better, including some just being mods on top of pre-existing, unrelated genres>Fire Emblem was raped by gooner transvestites and work-for-scale deviantart visual designers>Kirby is just Kirby, fuck it, whatever>Mario has been raped by media overexposure in the form of endless, low quality spinoffs and crappy films, along with the failure to actually try and be a platformer and becoming more about the gimmick-of-the-week, AND not releasing a proper title for what will now be a fucking decade>Mario Kart got raped by trying to sell the game to everyone, ended up being for no one>Donkey Kong answered the call and was raped by his plastic surgeon, also they literally gave him a bog standard, unfun platformer where he acts like a meth addict and actively fiends for rocks of crack, and the game was notable for all of a week only because King K. Rool made a cameo appearance>Wario is a sex offender who rapes, but also has no gaems>Metroid has been raped so many times now Samus has enough DNA inside of her to repopulate every species in the Federation>Pikmin is out of ideas, pretty much the Toy Story of Nintendo/overstayed its welcome at this point/probably needs a soft reboot with Olimar, nobody likes the other niggas>Pokémon is a lost cause>Splatoon 3 flopped harder than a beached squid and with the rise of major F2P titles actually being somewhat viable on the Switch 2, Splatoon has nothing to really sell itself on since it no longer has its previously artificially-cornered market>Star Fox 64 has been remade so many times that James McCloud now holds the record for most appearances as a force ghost, beating out all Jedi combined throughout all of Star Wars, including Disneywars
>>738431032They look like shit
>>738437557My impression of anime furry media is that while it builds dedicated fanbases it almost always has a pretty low ceiling for broad, mainstream appeal. Just as many people are completely put off by it. You really want to either take the Disney/Pixar route of design if it's kids media or you copy Marvel/Star Wars if they're in something adult audiences are supposed to take seriously. Not my own feelings on anthropomorphic characters to be honest, but that's just how the market looks to me.Im glad they took this sorta Biomutant/Beyond Good & Evil approach to the Star Fox universe instead of leaning into it being like the Illumination movie. Fox is cute in that and works but he's framed like a Han Solo/Tom Cruise parody, way more of a Saturday Morning Cartoon character than he ever was in his games. I wouldn't want that little bit of edge these games have to be lost, especially when Nintendo has more than enough franchises strictly made for young children.
>>738437885But nintendo made lots of money. You should be excited.
What's absolutely bizarre is that the original Starfox had story leads that were never touched on again in any subsequent game. So it isn't like Nintendo had no route for a proper new game.
>>738437885That's a lot of rape there.
>>738437557>The problem is that it’s just not marketableI think the reason i forgive them doing 64 again is precisely these bold designs. I was afraid that the looks from the movie would stick so personally this is exactly what i needed to see. Wether theyre marketeable i think people may underestimate what a striking look like this can achieve to stick around. I perdonally see a lot of fantastic mr fox in these and people loves that movie.
>Super Smash Bros. Ultimate was so boring that it became more popular for trailers than gameplay/tournaments, so much so that the next titles will inevitably be more popular for betting on the roster like NFL drafts than anybody actually playing it; three uncles who work at Nintendo will be arrested for fixing bets>The Legend of Zelda got its identity stolen by its drunk father who has now spent the better part of 20 years ordering firearms and individual components to assemble a pipe bomb under his son's name>Wii Sports went the way of its kike owner's original intention: to sell it as an overpriced, separate entity, and worse still it doesn't even play as well as the OG>Xenoblade Chronicles is retarded and nobody actually enjoys it, they just vigorously masturbate to the second mainline iteration>Wave Race 4 never ever
>>738438004
One thing I haven't seen many consider is the family effect that could happen with this title. I don't have kids, but I have nieces and I've tried to introduce them to older titles, but they're put off by the graphics/presentation/mechanics. I connect with them better by playing newer titles, though I may not be caught up to speed with the particular IP.I imagine that people that grew up with this game and that have kids of their own will be able to bond really well through this game. The older generation will be familiar with the story, while the younger generation can enjoy the updated visuals and additions to the gameplay and story. I'm not sure if there are a lot of games where you can do that.
>>738438125>>738437885>This is what snoys want people to believe.How about they make some games instead of pretending no one else is making them anymore?
>>738431032the issue is that nintendo refuses to make a new star fox without gimmicks, every time they do it flops then they circle back to SF1/64.
>>738431032you don't have taste, that's why
>>738438395This but nintendo. I am sick of movieshit like metroid prime 4, dk bananza, starfoz, fire emblem and xenoblade.
>>738431032Legs aside I think it looks really good. I don't get /v/'s meltdown.
>>738437039Metroi- oh waitF-Zero
>>738438348>Kids see the Mario Galaxy movie>Think the cool Fox guy from the movie is going to have an awesome video game>Take one look at the box at Gamestop>"Ewwww, who's that guy?">Spend allowance on Fortnite V bucks instead
>>738438664People are allowed to dislike things. If you cant agree to that, then nobody will tolerate your obvious shilling.
>>738438872Kids don't have nintendo switches
>>738439137His post was on the topic of introducing children to Star Fox.
>>738431032If you mean graphics? Eh, nah. In renders, they almost look fine. In-game with shitty Switch 2 rendering and lighting, it's awful.If you mean in terms of gameplay, $50 for fucking another Lylat retelling and one that's just a straight remake with better graphics and some new cutscenes is fucking insane, and a gimmick online mode with just 3 maps/modes or whatever doesn't make it any better. Pushing the price with remakes is already a hard sale, and it's why a lot of companies have really cut the price on them as of late. It's only a rare few that still push $60, and they usually actually do remake the whole game into something new when they do.This shit effectively just being a graphics mod for Starship is not worth almost full price but with $10 chopped off. Absolutely nutty
What if we're the remakes all along...
>>738431032me neither, gonna buy it
>>738437997Clearly they(aka Koizumi) wants Star Fox to have a greater story. It's painfully obvious when you look at the attention to detail they're adding to ahit like the ship decals, or Falco's jacket being reminiscent of his old biker gang. It could also be coming from a younger development team.
>>738431032Probably because this is your first Star Fox game.
That Event Horizon fangame is 100% going to get DMCA'd now, and the official game's not even going to be good or interesting in exchange.
>>738434313>>738434216Chia Pet McCloud
What would Nintendo look like today if Miyamoto got the tumor and Iwata lived a long and healthy life
>>738439787Probably mostly the same. Miyamoto lost most of his influence around when Iwata died.
>>738439691My first thought on seeing these graphics was>man, I didn't like Event Horizon's Fox and crew before, but I can tolerate them a hell of a lot better now
>>738439845oh well, i guess pikmin and star fox would die off.
>>738439845But we'd be without Furakawa.
>>738431032Picrel is the issue. Furries can't get hard because they look to realistic and not pixar like.
>>738439893and? i don't think the japanese company would change all that much.
>>738439537>It could also be coming from a younger development teamThat's my thought. All the branding and logs in games like Odyssey, MKW, Splatoon, Bananza (to a lesser extent) and now StarFox - it really all began with Splatoon on Wii U which was the younger devs break out success so now it's just a sort of signature look. Kind of makes the game worlds feel a little more fleshed out.
>>738431328The game is Starfox 64 in slow motion.
>>738437062>the series needs a big shake upHe says for a fucking remake
>>738431032The sound design and stylization sound and look like shit respectively, that's just how it is, OP. The devs tried too hard with the whole "realism" angle and failed right out of the gate.
>>738439993Not even Xenos will touch this shit.
So it's Star 64 but with ugly visuals. Why would anyone be excited for that when they could just play the real game?
>>738438679>F-ZeroThey thankfully have expressed little desire in working on F-Zero. I guess they believe there's not much point to it when there's Mario Kart already being popular.
>>738440428Old games give normaltards uncomfortable feelings, for some reason. Even if new games objectively suck dick, they NEED to be a part of the mainstream narrative. Playing something that came out 29 years ago doesn't make you culturally relevant, whatever that means.
>>738439993>it's bad but it heckin pwns the furries so it's good
>>738440447You say that, but FZero 99 is getting updates to this day, for some bizarre reason.
>>738440656FZero 99 is fine, it ain't really a remake, just a side thing they did.
Maybe the issue here is that Stafox peaked with 64, the same way Fzero did with GX. And it’s a genre problem for each example, not a series problem. You can’t make an on rails space ship shooter better than Starfox 64.
>>738440730it is effectively an online f, zero 1 remake, anon.
>>738431252These are closer to their stock designs in the original. Maybe you dont like it but Im over the moon excited for it.
I hereby declare war on Star Fox.How many more times must vital resources be diverted to remake this fucking game? It would be better if it died.
the pursuit for realism with nintendo characters makes no sense. it always hits the uncanny valley. do people genuinely not see this? it's baffling.
>>738431149Star Fox 64 3D is just an enhanced port, it doesn't belong in that list.
>>738431032After this they should remake Assault in this style and call it Starfox 2. Then make an entirely new game and call it Starfox 3. It would be goated.
>>738433518Zero is not a remake of 64.
So far the worst part about it is the voices. They got crappy anime voice actors who put no sovl into their performances.
>>738431032Because you bought a Switch 2 and suffer from sunk cost fallacy
>>738441379Cut 'em some slack, nobody could surpass the passionate perfection of the original.
>>738431032
>>738441598Thanks Nintendo, cured my zoophilia
What's wild is the only people IRL I've seen wearing fox tails are sexy zoomer women
>>738441598What furries want vs What normies think furries want.
>>738431032Their legs are weird, that's all
>>738441598Fuck, even Starfox has gone woke
>>738441598Nintendo is just shitting on hetero normative values again by making their women hyper ugly.
>>738431032I am grabbing this game
Tranny Feral Furries just trying get other ever other Furry's skin by making shit intentionally ugly.Again.
>>738431032All these threads made me watch the Fox in Space episodes again.
>>738441917Star Fox was always intentionally ugly though. You've let fanart rot your brain.
>>738438872Don't care about the mario movie and have no intention of seeing it, but the clip i've seen of Fox in the movie honestly feels like the perfect amalgamation of Star Fox, like you can really tell it was a labor of love, they went all out like they wanted to pitch a movie or tv show with Fox. Like even the boot shot scene just says it all. It's obvious they're big fans.Those 2D scenes were phenomenal and both cg and cartoon still look like the games. Idk if it was intentional or not but the color choices for the 2d scenes look like a nod to the starfox 2's art workhttps://files.catbox.moe/xy8aqt.mp4
>>738441598>HEYYY FALCO BABY>SUCK YOUR DICK FOR A NICKEL
>>738441379It might be very nitpicky, but that female announcer voice in the multiplayer matches also sounds out of place and annoying to me.
We're not gonna get a good Star Fox game until Miyamoto dies, it's that simple.Fucking no one else at Nintendo could think that making the same game four times is a good idea. No one else thinks that the reason Star Fox isn't popular is because of the graphics. It's Miyamoto's mandate.
>>738442003>the Fox in Space episodesDidn't they just make 2 episodes?
>>738441598GOOCHEESE!That's who she reminds me of, fucking Goocheese, lmao holy shit
>>738442349Still working on episode 3. But yeah those two.
>>738441150I wonder if it really was that bad of an idea to port star fox zero that they decided to ignore its existence and just remake 64 again.
>>738442601When they showed the 2player mode in the remake I almost thought they were going to announce a port of Zero but... yeah I think they're just going to leave that on Wii U. The less people that know about the copter (and walker I guess) the better
>>738437235The story behind this image is mesed up
>>738442954>Remake the same game 5 times>Ensure Slippy is in all of themHere's a novel ideaReplace Slippy, the most hated entity of all time, with a better character
>>738431149And yet the original SNES game is still the best.
>>738442954>SNES>remakeDon't know why I'm surprised at any of the retarded drivel that drips from the mouths of the cro-magnons that inhabit that gay platform.
>>738443083replace Slippy with the SF2 scrapped human.
>>738441598This looks like those before/after crackhead mugshots
>>738431032Its 50$ for a 30 year old game with slightly updated multiplayer and cutscenes with new furry paint
>>738443221It's funny that he listed that instead of the literal SF64 remake that's on the 3DS.
>>738443221Ist thou feigning retardation oft thine highest degree?
>>738443618https://www.testprepreview.com/modules/reading1.htm
>>738431032>I frankly don't see the issue2 reasons:>Game >Game sequel (scrapped)>Game (reboot)>Game (reboot) sequel>Game (reboot) sequel 2>Game (reboot) sequel 3>Game (remake of reboot)>Game (reimagining) >Game sequel: unscrapped edition years later>Game (reboot #2)In other words, 50% of mainline games in this series is retelling the exact same story premise of the exact same game through over the course of over 30 years now, and people are severely fatigued.The other reason is becuase the characters are heavily stylized in a way that people are not used to. This game goes deep in uncanny valley in a franchise known for appealing looking designs and people are confused and skeptical about this drastic change.
>>738431032SF Assault proved that SF is a better arcade game when you also have on-foot stages.Also the graphics could be a bit better, the gameplay phases looked blurred.
>>738441598Her life might be in shambles, but Fay told me that Katt can give you some crazy head for $20 now.
>>738431032For some reason, half of /v/ are hardcore fans of Star Fox that have been betrayed by Nintendo....My only issue is that its yet another remake of the first story, instead of pushing the story forward like Metroid Dread. Hell, I would have cared more of a Star Fox II remake, since its the one gale that need it most considering it didn't release in the first place.
>>738443083Slippy is cute. Him not being present would worsen the team dynamic, too. And 64 isn't a remake of 1
>>738442954>The OG>The remake of the OG>The attempted reboot>The remake of the OG remakeSo three. Big surprise, fags on Twitter can't count.
>>738439993This is literally the only reason it's getting guff.
>>738445098>And 64 isn't a remake of 1Explain your reasoning.
>>738431032>get one game per decade>every title after Command (2007) is some variation on the exact same game, the one that just got a fan decompilation with mod support etc like a year ago>"I frankly don't see the issue"
>>738433126>So they showed Adventures and Assault in the Direct, but are they actually going to be putting those games on the virtual console anytime soon?I'm so tired of the dripfeed, honestly. It's been a goddamn year. Where's Twilight Princess? Where's the Star Fox stuff? Where's Pokemon Colosseum and not just XD? I know they technically have to do a lot of licensing and per-game hacks with their emulators, but what the hell is taking them so long?
>>738431032Me neither. They look great.
>>738431032They look ugly, their designs offend my furfaggotry. Now it's not like it has to cater to me, but furfags are the ones most likely to buy a product featuring anthros, but that chance is crippled by turning the characters into realism abominations
Can we pivot the discussion to how they ruined some of the visual elements of the gameplay? The barrel roll no longer deflecting projectiles is NOT acceptable to me.
>>738431749Nope. Kill yourself furfag.
>>738445412The two games have different stage design, different bosses, enemies, 64 has many unique mechanics and handles the 3D space differently, 64 has many non-traditional stages and bosses, the art direction is different, the soundtrack is different, even some of the planets differ (including Venom, which had a futuristic highway as one of the final stages in 1, while in 64 it's a poisoned ruins planet)
>>738434161Kek I thought that was ozma before reading the post
>>738446175>The two games have different stage design,Because the original is hampered by technology, this is a dumb argument. They reused every concept from the first
>>738446383They also reused concepts from 2 despite that game never releasing. But overall it's easier to consider 64 and Zero reimaginings or retellings rather than technical remakes. Zero unfortunately cribbed so much from a renowned game that it became a fair bit too obvious and derivative rather than feeling enough like its own thing.
>>738431032remakeslop
>>738446383It's still a different game, limitations are part of what made 1 what it is, but it allso has many of its own aspects that weren't reused in 64. Mega Man games share more in common between entries than 1 and 64 do, that doesn't make them remakes of each other.
>>738446593Yeah because they have different stages, characters and bosses, unlike the Star Fox remakes.
>>738431032>I frankly don't see the issue.So you're blind? Its weird to see Nintendo copy what other devs are doing by pulling a RE4 and FF7 Remake/Rebirth, especially when it comes to adding story elements, which they aren't great at.
>>738446593>It's still a different game,By necessity. SNES Star Fox is the rough draft, Star Fox 64 is the final.
>>738434216Imagine new Falco doing his usual kicks in Smash
>>7384466341 and 64 don't share a single stage and only share a single boss. They're structured differently as well. Mega Man games reuse enemy types, boss/stage archetypes, engine, controls and various other things, yet they're still different games.>>73844670864 didn't even have a lot of the staff of 1, and went through many differences in development as the developers wanted to do all sorts of things they didn't do in 1. It's a different game. Most of the GnG games share some locations, characters and story, but that doesn't make Super a refined version of the original, it's a different entry.
>>738446685Nintendo has been ass backwards lately.>won't add story to a movie because its based on a game>will add movies to a game they have remade for the 3rd time and call it a feature despite it ruining the pacingwhat are they doing and why
>>738435104I like this edit even shows that nobody has any major issues with Peppy’s looks.
>>738431149It’s fine when Mario does it
>>738446881Peppy is the only one the team that's pretty much a 1:1 translation of his original design
>>738446175>same plot>same gameplay formula>same Lylat map route system>same core cast>planet environments are mostly redesigned, but every one from the original is brought back besides Meteor (and technically Fortuna)>multiple bosses retained (Attack Carrier on Corneria, spinning crusher in asteroid belt, Andross as a giant head)If that was a movie, you'd call it a remake.
>>738446823Hey, Nintendo makes IP calls on things and some oversight for the film, they didn't literally direct it. Miyamoto being retarded about that statement days ago is a former game dev's shit perspective about a completely different medium.
>>738440937Their legs are like a third of their body length. If you knew anything about proportions you'd know how fucking stupid that will look. You intuitively know this and it's why you have that weird feeling in the back of your brain when you look at the designs that you're doing your best to interpret as anything but "oh god this is dumb".
>>738447079If only they went with Dreamworks instead...
>>738446981But it's not a movie, it's a video game, and a rail shooter at that, which are judged by their gameplay. The spinning crusher barely resembles the one from 1 as a boss, and both games have way more different bosses. The plot, characters and planet names being shared is superficial in a game like this, and they still made all of the interactions in 64 new and added many new characters, which isn't necessary for a rail shooter, but still sets it further apart from 1. Even games like Assault and Command, in spite of being radically different gameplay-wise, reuse environments, most of the cast, boss attacks and Lylat from 64.
>>738447079>they didn't literally direct itThe oversight people at nintendo got slices throughout development and did not make them change things when they had the power to do so, so they are just as much at fault because they ultimately get the final say over the director. Pretending otherwise is to delude yourself.
>>738447230I wouldn't be surprised if they just straight up got all these individual theoretical slices without surrounding context for how there was barely context. Production and all this various shit is a lot more complicated than just one set of people to blame.
>>738440280His statement was incorrect. What the series really need is for more people to actually give a fuck about it. Most Switch 2 owners have never played the 64 or the Super version.Reintroducing the series to those new players with a game that has already proven itself to be good with a modern revamp is the correct strategy.Beside 64 is old enough that a remake actually make sense.
>>738447302It's complicated and also the case that the people with final say do in fact get the most blame because it is their call on what is and isn't okay. If Nintendo's reps did not have a proper working relationship with the production team's leadership and were ignorant of the production's context for that reason then they are still to blame. The production team that made the shit that wasn't stopped by Nintendo is also to blame but you cannot absolve the final deciders of their failure to stop shit from being produced.
Playing Star Fox 1 and getting filtered by Titania rn.
>>738447380Making a 1:1 remake of a game that can be played for free is a dumb move.
>>738447380If you want people to give a shit then they should have rode the hype of the mario movie to the best of their ability and designed the game's art style around what people were introduced to and started caring about with that wildly successful production. That just makes the most objective sense. Let the movie be the ad/hype campaign for your game and design your game so that it can be that. If furries like it or don't like it who gives a shit? You want your game to be successful.
>>738441598Same energy
>>738431032I really hope this game is shit. I dont want to buy a söywtch 2 just for this game. I cannot afford a $500 + tax + tip console onthis market
>>738431032Me neither, I'm not a furfag and the game looks absolutely fire, the scale is amazing and most importantly, you can actually see things, a big problem I have with modern games is that when a lot of stuff is going on all the effects on screen just drown everything out making it borderline impossible to play, they got that part right thankfully, day 1 buy, hoping for a completely new starfox if this does well.
>>738431032It's going to be ludokino, I'm afraid.
>>738433382>>738433382>>738433640>>738434015Adventure and assault were both the right direction with chronically development problem. Time and design choice for adventure and a foot section that should have been reworked with a longer campaigns for assault. As for the new game, their design isn’t very good. Something closer to adventure or assault would have been better, it’s looks uncanny, ugly with the proportions and overall not only or irrealistic but impractical with those weird «animal stand up» looks. Also yes adventure and assault gave us Krystal’s ass, and what an ass it is !
>>738432074>WELL THE WAY IT WAS FOR THE PAST SEVERAL DECADES WAS ALWAYS SECRETLY BAD ANYWAYI love the new designs and I dont think this. I just like devs having fun and doing what they like. These new designs dont invalidate previous ones. Its just a new interesting direction that yes, is backed by the early history of the franchise.I would have been majorly pissed off if they went with the galaxy movie designs, in fact, so im extremely glad they went with this instead.
>>738437039You dont know what superficial means. Copying the og designs as is would have been a lot more shallow than actually reinterpreting things and thinking them over. God im so glad nintendo doesnt listen to their autistic fanbase.
>>738441640You don't have zoophilia if you like the left. You would if you liked the right.
>>738448425>>738448475how much are you being paid
>>738448425>I just like devs having fun and doing what they like.You have no idea if the devs had fun or did what they like with these designs, though. It could have been forced on them from higher management outside the studio. Either way you can defend literally any design no matter how good or shitty if you just assume that it was the fun choice for them and say they should do it for that reason.>I would have been majorly pissed off if they went with the galaxy movie designs, in factI don't know why you would be if they had fun with it and did what they liked.
>>738448495I theyre making a game i want to play so i feel thats payment enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFGvwzvZE6kThe bigger issue is that I genuinely hate the voice acting and writing so far
>>738448554I dont think copying your average western style would not have been too stimulating for them, no. On the other hand I find the new designs to be both funny and cool so yes, I figure the devs had a field day with them.
>>738431032seen arguments of "it's the star fox remake for basic bitches"
>>738441776>womenit's a cat retarded animal fucker
>>738448734>I dont think copying your average western style would not have been too stimulating for them, no.How the fuck would you even know? You don't know a single person on the dev team, you're just making baseless assumptions. If you're going to say "well I just sure do like it when devs get to do things they like simple as" and you actually do feel that way, then you would have to love it if it had the galaxy movie's style of designs, no?
>>738442042The writing is so fucking cringe
>>738448771Picrel is full of trukes however
>>738448908My dad works at Nintendo and he told me they didn't enjoy making the models actually.
>>738431032I would be fine with the designs if they had normal human legs, also the dialogue is really bad, based on the few snippets I've heard
>>738449201Wish you hadn't shared this news, because anon is required to hate it now. Would have been better for him if we let him keep assuming and talking out of his ass about the dev team he's never met.
>>738448908If they were making the movie designs the probability that that would be what the devs wanted to make, and more likely a mandate call thing to homogenize the franchise from a business standpoint. The fact that Koizumi personally presented the game also is telling that he is in some way more directly involved with this game, and this guy was behind some of the most risky and creative games that nintendo has produced.Also i have some experience in creative fields so that may give me some remote, humble ground to build my taste and opinions upon.In the end i know its a matter of taste with these things, but there is context to creative endeavors and being familiar with it may affect your impressions of things. Not everything is an absolute black box of intent where theres nothing but the immediate first impression from an ignorant perspective.
>>738431032Wanna know an undeniable fact? If it was using the same art style of the Super Mario Galaxy movie, the same people bitching about it being StarFox 1 for the third time would be praising it and talking about how excited they are. It's literally just furries having a VERY audible shitfit with some genuine fans disappointed that it's StarFox 1 for the third time.
>>738449362Man shut the fuck up you embarassing nigga you're so fucking cringe
>>738449510>when threatened with intellect, the baboon regresses into throwing its shit at the walls while shrieking at the top of its lungs
>>738431032Why did they fuck up their legs? What was wrong with the traditional cartoony anthro look?I don't care if the furry community is upset because "the fox isn't fuckable" or whatever; I think *everyone* should be upset because this new shit looks gross.
>>738431032Total "nontroversy". The game looks great.
>>738449362>If they were making the movie designs the probability that that would be what the devs wanted to make, and more likely a mandate call thing to homogenize the franchise from a business standpoint.You don't know this and again this would be irrelevant to how much fun they would have had with the process if that was the art direction. And fun in the dev process that you have literally zero information about was your criteria on you liking the game.>I have some experience in creative fieldsSo do I, and I do not think to assume the motivations and enjoyment of artists I have never met or even know the fucking names of, in a development cycle(that's not even finished) that I am in no way apart of with no inside information.>there is contextYou don't have any of the fucking context. You're assuming it so that you can look at a design you personally enjoy(nothing wrong with that) and justify your enjoyment by saying "oh yeah the devs LOVED making this so I do to". You don't need to talk out of your ass and attribute things to people you know nothing about just to justify your liking of some designs. Makes you look like a fucking idiot.
>>738449614>intellect>look inside>retarded assumption 1>retarded assumption 2>retarded assumption 3>retarded assumption 4Writing 2 paragraphs isn't a sign of any intelligence, in fact when they're full of illogical and baseless shit it's the opposite. You should kill yourself quickly for the love of God and humanity.
>>738449817>OOK OOK OOK OOK OOK OOK OOK OOK OOK OOK OO OO AAAA AAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SHUT UP GRANDPA, NOBODY CARES ABOUT FURRY STAR WARS, GO BACK TO THE RETIREMENT HOME
Add Miyu and/or Fay and all will be forgiven.
>>738431032Nintendo just announced a new game and /v/ will not stand for it.
>>738436792Just because it uses similar tropes doesn’t mean its the exact same plot and levels.This is like complaining that zelda is always about collecting mcguffings to stop ganon or that marios villain is always bowser and the goal is always to rescue peach.It also does use new gameplay elements and vehicles unlike the fake narrative most of this thread is trying to force. I wish we got a remake of zero without shit controls instead of 64.
>>738431032I am genuinely excited for the game. I bet in the June Direct they will show off more content that makes it more than just Star Fox 64 again with cutscenes. The store page mentions that they will share more soon.
>>738449945You said that you like the designs specifically because the devs enjoyed making them(you do not know this or any of the devs). Assuming the devs made it mario galaxy design style and enjoyed making them that way, would you like the mario galaxy designs instead of being "majorly pissed off"? Could you answer this simply with a yes or no instead of taking a fat dump of a paragraph to dodge around the question entirely? Or if you are incapable of stopping yourself from taking a fat dump of a paragraph to dodge around the question entirely, at least answer simply with a yes or a no before you do so?
>>738436792You’re right I forgot about the part where you get on a helicopter to hack computers in some sort of plant, and how the walker was in 64 and also when peppy gets shot down instead of Slippy. It makes use of the exact same areas too for sure and i also totally remember about how general pepper banished andross alongside james accidentally to another dimension before the game starts.
>>738450071lol sounds about right, we don't have someone's bearded dad moping around a linear hallway that looks like a forest or jungle at checkerboard 4k24 for 6 hours, must still be a babby toy
>>738450121>James McCloud>Presumed DeadTrust
>>738450180I'm not even that anon, I just saw this >>738449510 and pegged you as an illiterate adhd faggot to mock
>>738431032I would have no issue with the visuals if they emoted like this in the endless wall of cutscenes they're implementing. Fox's face barely moves at all. Also the double chin
>>738450207Because he keeps showing up, he shows up at the end of SF64 and even shows up in Command as a playable character, he's not dead.
>>738449429I am both disappointed that it’s 64 and the fact it has the worst design of the series
>>738450262Well I'm not that anon either retard
>>738450262I'm not actually that anon either, I'm this guy >>738449708and pegged him as someone who will probably just stop replying if I hold his feet to the fire on the inconsistencies in his first post instead of letting him do cartwheels unrelated to what he originally said. I figured I'd try one more time but if you're a different retard then disregard my previous post.
piss
>>738450262>buzzword buzzword buzzword>illiterateI am unrelated to the reply chain but why do /v/tards love projecting so much?
>>738450332understandable, have a nice day
>>738450180>>738450262>>738450332>>738450370>>738450474Kill yourself samefagging schizo
>>738450619lollerskates
>>738437557>Look at Adventure, a 7.1/10 adventure game carried by memories of Krystal.Fucking good memories
>>738450619Two of those posts were less than a minute apart, retard
>>738450658>>738450670>what's 4chan pass
>>738431032Why would you? Youre a slop loving nigger who must consoooom
>>738431032There's a right way and a wrong way to add detail to cartoon characters. Giving Falco actual feather fingers and a realistic beak that flexes when he talks is weird.
>>738450737
>>738450737Let me get this straight>two replies within 30 seconds of each other>1 minute from when you posted>edited via photoshop or html in that tiny window of time>and also logically consistent with what I said earlier about the two posts being me based on the reply chainNow this is true schizo posting
>>738450923>>738451002It's as easy as having to proxies and two browser with the same pass samefag retard
>>738451036...you're the guy who got his asshole blown out for making assumptions about the dev team and pretending to be "experienced in the creative field" when called out on it, aren't you?
>>738451079No I was just commuting and bored I'm near the end so I'll stop now
>>738451146At least you admit to being a retard because you're "bored". That counts for something.
>>738431032ai generated sloppa
>>738451218?
>>738451235
we have guardians of the galaxy at home
>>738431032me neither, the designs are excellent. of course coomers, faggots, trannies and furries are offended. maybe they'll even kill themselves over it.
>VA work is kind of flat>Writing is too windy>Love the mechanical detailsI get they want to flesh out the world more and the only way to do that is to make everyone talk more, but some of the voice lines are just...eh
>>738433126They didnt show assault at all, whoch eas for the best.
>>738433518643D is a remake but zero isn't. Zero is a completely different game that takes place in a different version of lylat wars.
>>738433382Assault is a way worse star fox 64 with a bad multiplayer mode while adventures is a bad zelda clone wirh furries and scalies. Star fox 2 is the only good sequel.
>>738431336No, it's not you shitposting sperglord. Lylat Wars wasn't a remake of Starwing just because they share the same story. The stages and bosses are completely different.
>>738441598This has to be a western studio who else would be mad at game for having pink pussy in it, now they made her look modern, all used up and shit.
>>738450185>the part where you get on a helicopter to hack computersThat's right, instead of an actual good Zoness level like from 64 they used the name and aethetic for some glacially slow puzzle-based bullshit which is unfun and clashes with every other gameplay scenario ever put into the series.>and also when peppy gets shot down instead of SlippyThe fact that your only point is to go UM ACKCHYUALLY about it being a different squadmate speaks volumes.>i also totally remember about how general pepper banished andross alongside james accidentally to another dimensionDon't mention how the plot is still about Andross getting banished to Venom and raising an army to conquer Lylat in revenge, how it reuses the backstory of James' team investigating on Pepper's behalf only to get betrayed by Pigma joining Andross, and how any of the interesting morally grey shit hinted at in the anime short never amounts to anything at all beyond Pepper admitting Andross invented the technology for Corneria but they had to put banish him because he'd gone mad with power, which is still the exact same backstory from 64.What do you get out of shilling for Star Fox Zero, of all games? It was bad. It sold poorly, it was received poorly, so much so that as shit like Tropical Freeze and Pikmin 3 got deluxe ports to Switch, Zero was left behind. This isn't /v/ contrarianism, literally everybody complained about it being a worthlessly unimaginative retread, even the dicksucking tendie Youtubers like blue muppet man and Game Maker's Toolkit. It was a rehash of 64 right down to using all the same abstract geometric shapes for enemy designs. 20 years later and they couldn't be bothered to model a gun on the ship to make it look like the old promo art.
>>738452243You will never convince anyone of this retarded stance.
>>738431032I don't get it either. If Nintendo would have gone with the Mario art style, then people probably would have complained that it is "too cutesy" and that Nintendo is unwilling to evolve.I think the art style is very fitting for the setting. It is also very well made and detailed.
This game is a very elaborate Star Fox 64 ROM hack.Personally, I think it's OK, but I'm curious to see how the public reacts once they start finding out about it.
>>738442042>Fox falling into a rift in spacetimeThis is actually a thing that could happen in the original SNES game.
>>738433382>Adventures and Assault are fineDie in a fire.
>>738448271>Adventures >the right directionEhhh not really. Dunno anything about Assault, but Adventures felt like 70-75% of what SHOULD be a finished game. You're right in that it had one of the most tragic development stories I've heard of. If only Nintendo (at that time) hadn't meddled around...
>>738451371>bamco sinking even lowernot even surprised tbfh. this company that used to give us soul caliber, taiko, tales and god eater is in the dumpster pile
>>738451929The design are shit. Enjoy being a contraritarian
>>738452894Problem is on two main angle : >You can’t use modern weapons despite being in a galaxy with space ship.>the game as clearly rushed content due to time restrictions. Other than that, I’m happy Nintendo made an intervention for a star fox game
>>738433910who gives a fuck lol
>>738435550>like most of the Metroid games.>like mostMetroid's batting average is pretty good, imo:>Metroid 1 is "dated", but still enjoyable for what it is.>Metroid 2 is iffy, not big on 99% of the screen being taken up by Samus' fat ass.>Super Metroid is Super Metroid>Fusion is less exploration focused, but still a great linear action platformer.>Zero Mission is a great reimagining of the OG.>Other M sucks, there is no defending it.>Samus Returns is decent. Not setting the world on fire, but enjoyable nontheless.>Dread is great, definitely has the best bosses and controls in the series, but is let down by railroading. And that's just main series. Each game in the Prime Trilogy is good-great in terms of quality, with only its various spinoffs and Prime 4 letting it down.
>>738437025That was pretty normal in 64 though. His mouth (beak) flapping was just angled lower in the transmissions so players wouldn't notice it.
>>738434905I like this game a lot. You can also tell Imamura is no longer involved solely based on the new game visuals. Imamura would have fought hard to keep his style.
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>>738441379I only have an issue with Slippy's and Peppy's voices, tb h
>>738437062>The only game that's not controversial after its release is Assault.Dumbass or newfag.
>>738434905Zero has honestly better chara design
>>738442954>>738443541You honestly expect retarded secondaries jumping on the bandwagon to know what they're about?
Lmao. "Fans" that have screeched about the Nintendo Mandate for years are now screeching about them doing unique redesigns. Typical
>>738431252the opposite, they are not realistic enough and should be actual animals
>>738448271>Adventure and assault were both the right direction with chronically development problem.Hell no. Developmental problems i could understand for adventures but assault had no excuse for being as half-assed of a game as it turned out. Nintendo would be wise to avoid those games and start from scratch with sequels to the upcoming remake.
>>738431032It'll probably be one of those instances where people will warm up to the style as time goes by once the initial shock wears off
>>738454806Nigga that has never been a complaint with Star Fox
>>738443118>having the gall to spout such a fucking retarded opinion AND finish the sentence with a period like you have even a modicum of trust in others accepting your dogshit viewsGood fucking lord you are a worthless person
>>738431032I think its funny that Fox was clearly the first redesign, then they dropped the "overly realistic animal face" for every other character lol. It looks fine though.
>>738452341>instead of an actual good Zoness level like from 64I thought you didn’t want a remake with “the same gameplay”? Why complain that you get a segment that isn’t an on rails shooter? Well whatever, this is entirely your opinion whether you think its gameplay is shit or not but the other part of your argument is just pure hipocrisy.>speaks volumes.Yeah about the fact that you didn’t play the game.>how it reuses the backstory of James' team investigating on Pepper's behalfYou mean how andross was banished into another dimension by pepper with james help? Yes he “dies” doing exactly the same thing he was doing in 64.>shillingI am not shilling it, simply calling you a fucking retard for trying to insinuate its a 1/1 remake of 64 while also saying exactly why it isn’t. Reusing SIMILAR plot points with a different story, different area, different levels and level design, and most importantly different gameplay whether its shit or not does not make it into a fucking “remake” it makes it into a new game even if its a reboot of the original plot. Is pikmin 4 a remake because it retreads pikmin 1s story a different way? No it fucking isnt.This is the first ACTUAL remake they are making of 64 because the 3ds port was more of a remaster. Would I have preferred something else? Yes actually I wanted a zero port without the god awful control scheme miyamoto forced on it or even a new “reimagining” of 64s plot with new levels or something similar. Am I mad about what we’re getting? No especially if the intent is to revive the series by introducing it to younger audiences.I wish Golden sun got the remake treatment, you have no idea how lucky it is that this series is even getting another fucking game.
Are krystalfags on suicide watch currently?
Krystal is coming back in the adventure game, relax guys.
>>738450283>James didn't want to pay child support and just kept at it even after Fox became (technically) financially stable as a merc
>>738454879Apparently Assault was going to be multiplayer only until the press told Nintendo that the idea was ass.
>>738455010Akshually, James' wife died giving birth to Fox
>>738452082We're getting more pre- and post- mission scenes to build up on character development, lore, and world building................... from the writers who already ruined Slippy's writing in the trailer.
>>738455025It was ass but unfortunately they weren't up to the task of making a good starvfox campaign either. I would have probably liked the game more if they doubled down on the multiplayer only aspect or just start from scratch and make a game only single player.
>>738455005>Krystal is coming back in the adventure game, relax guys.Source?
>>738454987They were already in that state thanks to several of the Command endings.
>>738455106It probably would've been more bearable if the chick who voiced him in Zero and the last two games (+ Starlink) came back.
>>738454708>DLSS 5 killed PeppyNOOOOOOO
>>738431032This is the real series reboot this time, I can feel itIn a few years we'll get StarFox 2 (2028) with fuckass ugly versions of Faye and Miyu
>>738441598Active malice
>>738454987No, because the chance of her actually appearing was near zero >>738455005Pic related
>>738455168>>738455168That was 20 years ago? What keeps them going especially these days?
Frankly, I've preordered and will be playing it a lot. haters should get the rope.
>>738455337Im going to buy it twice
>>738455336Memory holing them.
Why are Assaultfags so adamant about their game being the best in the series and is the series future despite it being 21 years since that game released?
>>738455460Because that was also the beginning of Wolf being less of a dick to Fox.
>>738454967>insinuate its a 1/1 remake of 64Nobody ever said anything about being a 1/1 remake you fucking imbecile, my original reply was to a guy trying to say Zero wasn't another Lylat Wars retelling. 64 wasn't a 1/1 remake of the SNES game either, everybody still acknowledges it's a remake, I guess besides this retarded shithole. The argument is you trying to insist that it's substantially different and not 80% recycled plot beats, level themes, etc from 64 done worse, with a handful of actual new ideas. Zero Mission and Samus Returns are drastically different from their original forebearers, everybody still calls them remakes.
>>738455460Why are 64fags still so asshurt even though they're getting exactly what they want for the third time in a row?
>>738455652You confuse assault for annoyance of the constant whining of assaultfags not getting what they want. Nintendo is memoryholing that title.
>>738431032Me neither, I like it. Starfox just seems a little too laid back looking. He should be fired them with burning eyes of a son looking to prove himself and avenge his father. But maybe I need to see more in action.
>>738455747Enjoy your game, anon. And be sure to buy 64 remake #4 when the series gets another game in 2050.
>>738455393Hell yeah
>>738455931Just for that im going to buy another copy.
