We fucking did it, divers!
>>738439386Again? This happens with every patch.
>>738439386so how did they anger china this time
Sweden deserves it
>822k total reviewswtf?
What is this like the seventh time
I hope those clowns never recover from it
>Go check the reviews>All it is is "Arrowhead doesn't listen to fans" and "Fix your game"Okay. What even happened? What caused the review bomb?
>>738439386I find the Starship Troopers fascism satire tiresome because I want actual ethnofascism in my country
china are winning
you're still playing anyways
>>738439437it factually doesn't
>>738439698I would like an unironic one that plays like XCOM... horde shooters are too played out
I have no idea how this game wasn't buried in the fucking ground the moment they kept adding paid shit every patch
>>738439687They dropped a shit update that broke some intended game mechanics. for example, giving the Hive Guard mob extra armor on its head only resulted in the automated machine gun turret being rendered worthless against bugs because when one of them walks up, it'd get stuck in an infinite loop with the turret shooting it forever and the bug hiding behind its head shield. It's certainly more and continuous proof that Arrowhead doesn't think about or playtest the game.And in the same update they released a paid Warbond that added new mechs to the game, which is something they explicitly said they would never do.
ban steam review bombing threads
>>738439386I wish death upon arrowhead and their cocksucking drooling retard glazers.
>>738440017They never said all vehicles would be free. The community hallucinated that into being true.
>>738440075chink is right. svenne can only lash out at the players because theyre too cucked irl
>>738439440They broke default keybinds on Chinese keyboards, reddit jumped on the band wagon and claimed it was all their doing protesting arrowhead and glazedivers.
>>738440017It's just fucking retarded that a common enemy spawning in fucking diff 2 bounces anything but heavy pen off infinitely. This fucks with new players.Armour isn't stripped away, they don't take chip damage or concussive damage, they don't even get staggered. Your turrets just aim center of mass and bounce forever while medium pen weapons (which were already suboptimal against bugs) become even more worthless and light pen weapons (which were already strong against bugs) kill them even faster now if you aim at the weak-spots.It also just looks fucking ridiculous for such a tiny common shit enemy to tank the fuck huge nigger minigun from a mech or a strategem. Where's the "realism" they always praise so much?No idea what Arrowshit was smoking for that one. Hope they get shot in the streets.
>>738440187Yeah, you're right, my bad. It's just been a whole lot of frog boiling and people are getting fed up.
>>738440075Based. There's a reason Sweden is the rape capital
>>738439437>>738439829It happens with every nerf to players, or buffs to enemies. People say muh bugs/performance issues but largely many of those were there from the start. All the bombings can go all the way back to making the Railgun slightly worse
>>738440187Them selling shit isn't the issue, it's the mix of them selling solutions to problems they create on top of not releasing new free stratagems for the galactic war goals AND not implementing highly requested features due to warbond greed.Why can't they release mech customization? Because they want to sell you individual new mechs.Why can't they add new attachments to weapons? Because they want to sell you a copy pasted gun + attachment.Why can't they buff broken bugged shit like silencers? Because they want you to buy the silencer warbond that releases with the fix.Some of the warbonds are so meta defining, how would a new player even deal with some of the new threats and behaviours without fucking thermites? I can't even begin to imagine how miserable the game must be.
>>738440515Sadly Arrowhead is absolutely tone deaf and retarded and has a very shit vision about what the game should be and how to achieve that.Hence this is every single patch because every single patch is fucking awful for the last year.
>>738439386What can be done about reddit, realistically?
>>738440734Exactly what is happening right now. Hopefully they will stop taking their feedback from glazers on reddit and start doing what the majority of the community actually wants and what is good for the game.
>>738440075Chinaman speaking facts doe
I love this thing like you wouldn't believe. Yes, I will spam them at every opportunity to do so and yes, I will litter the map with them.
>>738440075China lost Taiwan after 1943 though
>>738441016they are extremely based but I never take them because I will just grab one of yoursit’s okay you can grab my other EAT
>>738439386I don't get it. Literally nothing happened.
>>738441323Hey that's what they're there for, sharing is caring afterall and it feels great when somebody else takes the other. Outside of that I just like calling them down and using them for decoration by placing them on tables, benches, crates, etc.
>>738439687Guess what, they made the game harder and more interesting.Helldiver playerbase is mostly manbabies who cannot stand any sort of difficulty. They MUST pick the hardest difficulty for whatever reason, and they MUST be able to clear it without adapting to it what so ever. If their favorite streamer meta loadout is bad for any reason, they will go review bomb and moan in every possible forum how the game is in ruin.They are entitled to victories and prizes simply because they bought the game.The devs are completely fucked since they're listening the crybabies, and they will NEVER stop; this will only ruin the game for everyone.
>>738441416the frog was boiled
>>738441416Oh you sweet summer child, big things are planned..
China
>>738440515The railgun nerf was a sticking point because it was only OP due to a console bug they were too stupid to spot and fix instead.
Sweden still sees those tasty hours eaten up by malding players
>>738441487typical nerf tranny breaking /vg/ containment
>>738439386was it another case of>fuck everything up with the "balancing" patch, then sell the solution to it in the new warbond?
>>738440187>3
>>738441753its more of a freedoms flame situation where>release a warbond>release a balance patch that directly nerfs the stuff in the warbond making it much worsethey gave us a mech warbond and then made everything in the game do more damage to mechs (which also makes them do more damage to turrets)
>>738440715The problem isn't Arrowhead at all. They could do more to fix bugs, but this sort of crap doesn't happen because of bugs.The problem is they've attracted an audience of whiny casuals who freak out at even the slightest hint of difficulty. People who feel like they are entitled to being able to clear the hardest modes in nothing but their character's underwear. And if anyone has the audacity to say that they want high-diff to actually mean something they are either met with "glazediver" or "go play dark souls"What they think they want isn't what they actually want. The moment Arrowhead caters to them the game is dead. There's no quicker way to suck out a game's soul than to remove the challenge.
>>738439386>WeWhite people taking credit for China again
>>738441883Good morning saar
>>738441487>Guess what, they made the game harder and more interesting.You're talking about the hive guard armour? Because by your own logic they made the game easier :^) most experienced players were already using lightpen mains on bug planets and guess what they did? They made hive guards easier to kill with light / durable. Kill yourself tranny.
>>738441883>arrrowhead apologistkys, they don't even update their own game anymore. all content is outsourced.
>>738441883im trans btw, if that makes a difference
>>738439386>be redit>also console shitter>dev nerfs hive guard with -30% hp>cry like a fucking bitch that its "OP now">shit and piss yourself over mechs getting +60% hp>claim mechs have been nerfed>the were never good >at all>ever>since the games launchYup, its a shit for brains reditor thread. Games easy. You are shit.
>>738441883You're not welcome here, predditor. Kill yourself.
>>738441986yeah you would know what they say and think on reddit. go back faggot
>>738441986>also console shitter>dev nerfs hive guard with -30% hpWell why are you crying over them reverting the change then? It made the game difficult again :^).
>>738442029>difficult againnever was. you are just trash.
>>738441883>the whiny casual faggots getting called out start mass replyingKEK
>>738441986Obligatory kill yourself you fucking reddit tranny.
>>738442081le heckin owned them real good!
>>738442081Go back to india
>>738441919>>738441934This shit just always gives away the casuals. 'Tranny' , 'saar'. Mean nothing. Just repeating these catchphrases adnauseam to 'fit in' and imagining they're somehow cool.Just continue clicking those streamer videos on YouTube what to think about the newest exchange okay? Copy-paste the loadout and dont forget: Subscribe and donate!
>>738442140+5 izzat
I'm not even gonna hand out a (You). Feel free to reply anyway because you're seething.
>>738441487Hellglazer sissy...
>>738442140Saar the izzat, you are not redeeming
>>738441883>"you just need to git gud!">people get good>whatever loadout they use is immediately nerfed because the autistic retards at arrowhead believe they need fix loss rates for the difficulties
>>738440075what autism is this
I fixed Exosuits for Arrowhead. That'll be $15 for a hive guard themed legendary warbond.
>>738439386Hehe, stupid humansReview-bombing the game because they buffed us gigachad bugsWe paid $40 for the game too you know?
love how to the slurpers, the game is always simultaneously piss easy and everyone who cannot beat it is handless, but at the same time these changes make the game difficult and that difficulty is required to keep it interesting.so which one is it? is it piss easy, or is it difficult?
>>738442835They don't even play the game, just like the devs themselves.
Funny, the monetization model of this game reminds me of the old Payday 2 DLC model. Wildly unbalanced weapons, borderline "OP" or meta perk decks from DLC packs. But the game really turned around in update 200 (I think, can't really remember). The standardized weapon's stat is probably one of their best decisions. Every gun can work.
>>738442835Good morning saar
>>738442886>standardized weapon's statthen why have multiple weapons
>>738439386The game certainly has problems but I don't think such a harsh backlash is entirely deserved.The game is still good for "casuals" who play a few hours a week and don't worry about max difficulty or grinding out every single unlock.Obviously if you try to play it for several hours every day you're going to get bored with the repetition and meta.Also, they are stuck using a dead middleware engine that went out of business in the middle of developing the game. No doubt there is a lot of technical debt there that makes QA a real pain.Best thing they can do imo is expedite the necessary content (squid homeworld, etc) to make the galactic war actually winnable/losable. Give players the ability to actually meaningfully affect the war like HD1.Then shift primary development to HD3 on a different engine (even UE5 would be better), with a small team to update and maintain HD2.
>>738442835Exclude reviews with less than 40h played on steam and you will understand. Glazers don't play the game.
>>738442978theres technical issues because they legit are bad at their job. they are so bad they constantly have to go out and get 3rd party help to fix bugs and have content made by outside studios. they dont do anything. fuck sweden.
>>738442978They already said they're working on their next game which wont be HD3, the IP belongs to Sony. That's probably while they're so lackadaisical with the game, because it isn't really theirs
>>738442886>game reminds me of Payday 2We only need arrowhead to add overpriced lootboxes with an entire in-game event about rescuing them from the bugs and have them release 2 spinoffs that almost sink the company from flopping so badly and they'll lock in and turn it around just like Starbreeze, I see
Glazers still not answering why would arrowhead hide changes from the changelog if not because they knew these changes are shit and made only out of spite
>>738440715I don't think they even have a vision. On one hand they cite grunt fantasy and do funny meme death shit to the point that your own weapons and turrets pretty much do abnormal shit just to kill you, or that stratagem ball inexplicably doesn't land even on normal flat ground and instead rolls away or back at you somehow. You can't fight an army, you'll get killed, don't be stupid. On the other hand they want the spec ops fantasy where this small team of disposables can actually fight an entire army off and have absurd amounts of capability with some half-decent coordination, necessitating the game bullshit these players to be able to even hope to seriously put a dent in them. And then every other update they flip flop between these two sides and can't decide whether to grunt or spec ops.They also have very retarded ideas about things like transmog for armor passives with the whole "bacon-flavored apples" analogy as to why they won't do it. But knowing that passives are literally attached to your armor slot (head, body, cape) and how cheaters can tamper with stacking passives in exchange for overwriting the head and cape parts with more body, I wouldn't be surprised they were so retardedly spaghetti coded that they simply don't even want to try.
I get my balls rocked on difficulty 6 in probably 30% of drops
>>738443317
>Double all magazine sizes and ammo reserves>Double all enemies>Fuck consoleniggersGame is fixed
>>738440341They die in like one fucking shot anywhere else on their body. Just shoot the hive guard if your sentry engages it. This game is so comically easy.>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MY SENTRY ISN'T CLEARING THE ENTIRE MAP FOR ME I WILL NOW SHIT AND PISS FOR WEEKSjesus christ grow the fuck up, the hive guard is a literal non-enemy
>>738443563Why do you have to babysit a sentry that's supposed to be supporting you?
>>738443164I don't believe alot of people will buy another Arrowhead game anytime soon.
>>738442835this is never going to be irrelevant, huh
>>738443348The ball bouncing is for the same retarded reason that you sometimes can't steer the hellpod, because god forbid you get yourself or a turrent on a good spot, nevermind the fact enemies can phase trough wall and climb over anything and ignore the fact 90% of the times it bounces on perfectly reachable places>>738443563>no dude the turret is supposed to be worthless against bugs and not even being able to clear chaff
>>738443615Probably wont be out for years and if its shiny enough nobody will care because HD2 will be old by then
>>738443563Low iq post
>>738443563Changes were already reverted. You lost reddit tranny.
>>738443348you are supposed to run away until your stratagem is ready, and never ever use your weapons because you are just a grunt, no you can't fight back even with a tank or mech wich is why the increased everyone durable damage, you are just supposed to use stratagems
>>738442930The weapons have a soft tier system. For example, previously, 2 600 rpm AR cans had different DMG stats because of balance reasons, like "this gun has more recoil, so it's got higher DMG" kinds of reasons. After the update, all 600 rpm ARs got the same DMG stat, but they still got their accuracy and recoil differences. You can still optimize and craft a meta setup, but the game encourages you to play with other "weaker" weapons, too. Personally, a lot of my off-meta builds become strong or viable builds after the update.Iirc, a lot of weak or "useless" SMGs turned into meta for crit builds because they got good DMG alongside stealth stats.Seeing HD2, I don't think the dev will ever do anything like PD2.
>>738443664Uhhm sweetie, we like realism here. Would a grunt be able to use a favourable position?! Uhhh no. Greetings from Sweden.
>>738443664The hellpod steering being butchered was part of the Cyberstan update where it automatically steers/locks you from trying to land on the rooftops of the city, but unfortunately because Arrowhead and all, they made it a universal solution so any hilly terrain or the urban SE cities completely breaks it because oopsie, something's too steep.>>738443774Then what the fuck is the point of making paid vehicle strategems if they're useless?
Steam was a mistake
This game has been getting review bombed at least once every few months for over three years now lol
>>738439698based
>>738439386I love democracy.
>>738443563lol yeah there's this one guy who thinks his turrets should be the I-win-buttonNot that there isn't heaps of problems with the game. It's very frantic, too much running away, not enough opportunities for you to choose how to enter an engagement. Game is very grindy with the premium currency. I suspect a lot of the complainers are at too high a difficulty because that gives the highest rewards.
>>738443289In Starbreeze's defense, the backlash from loot boxes was so bad that they abolished them almost immediately and made it into a free skin system.you can now call me starglazer
>>738443830Yeah because this is exclusive to cyberstan, lmfao. They bounce off every rock and cliff. Good luck calling in stratagems through a hole in the roof on hive worlds too.
>>738441883Unfortunately this is the reality we live in where the mass bloat of puss that was the dark souls "git gud" retards exploded and infected every other game. If Dark Souls is their God, Silksong was their Jesus and it brought the second coming of mouth breathers who think that devs trying to trip them at every corner is somehow a challenge meant for them to overcome and not a problem created for them to sell you a solution to. I hate you niggers so fucking much because you create a system where i have to live in. I don't play games to challenge my abilities, i play them to have fun and companies are laughing at you by making stuff absolutely tedious and i have to accept that i am taken on this ride as well. The ARPG genre has become rollslop from it being about stats and builds, the metroidvanias have become grueling travels through gauntlets, the indies have become a constant checking of updates to see if the developers police how the game is played by nerfing every strategy found by players.
>>738444201If you want an I WIN button go play solitaire then, faggot
>>738443785>Iirc, a lot of weak or "useless" SMGs turned into meta for crit builds because they got good DMG alongside stealth statsNot just SMGs, pretty much every weapon category benefitted. LMGs benefited from this greatly too. Dodge RPD build, my beloved
>>738443369They genuinely need to rework the whole balancing of it all. D10 is just your screen filled with enemies and instead of actually fighting them you just run around trying to do the objective as fast as possible because you know there's no reason to fight anything due to limited resources while enemies get infinite respawns one way or another. Everything either kills you in one hit or two hits or you get ragdolled like a garrys mod fredina fazbear doll about to be used by a 10 year old. You can't even take heavy armor anywhere because that only really saves you when you're already stimmed. Like a ton of the shit is just pointless additions to the game because they want you to feel like an expendable asset, but then they also add shit to the game that trivializes certain aspects and then they just keep building around everyone running an ultimatum>>738443924>Game is very grindy with the premium currency.honestly it's not as grindy as it appears. 1-2 hours is a warbond and you can do sc farms very quickly while watching a movie or videos on youtube or shitposting on 4chan. I actually like this system because it feels like arrowhead said fuck you to sony and made them lose on people buying warbonds, because I don't know why you would buy them at this point. even if you buy the warbonds you're still going to need medals, and if you buy a warbond you likely have no medals, so you might as well farm the medals with sc farms too, which is faster than actually playing missions
>>738444348At this point you retards would buy a solitaire that makes you hit your balls every 2 cards because thats how the developers intended the game to be and you would boast about it being "difficult".
>>738444201Fun comes from overcoming new challenges. What you're asking for is instant gratification, which feels hollow even in the moment and never satisfies.The only thing Dark Souls did was prove that when you cater to the core gameplay audience, the ones who actually have fun playing video games as opposed to people who just do it as a thing to keep their hands busy while their brains check out, you end up making a hit that basically everyone loves, even (or especially) the casuals who claim they don't want that. Building a game around gameplay instead of "engagement" makes it fun instead of addicting and fun alone was enough to create a following.
I feel like jagex are the only other company that have this many problems, they must have a cursed egyptian mummy under the building or something
>>738441883>The problem is they've attracted an audience of whiny casuals who freak out at even the slightest hint of difficulty.I wish AH would just put their foot down and tell these faggot whiny casuals to go pound sand.
>>738444508Very low iq post, brown hands typed this.
>>738439698It's like he's saying what we're all thinking
>>738444508>Fun comes from overcoming new challenges.Fun comes from a variety of matters, it isn't simply about gratification. Watching a movie with friends you all enjoy is fun. Reading a book and seeing what the writer puts to the paper can be fun. Talking a walk out in the sun and having a nice breezy air can be fun. Not everyone is addicted to the sensation of becoming the very best that no one ever was. It's a goddamn PvE co-op horde shooter game, your reasons can be widely varied for seeking fun but in general most people are not playing Helldivers 2 to sweat their asses off as winning champions, they're doing grinds or fucking about with friends/randos with a completed mission state being an overall goal rather than the requirement.
>>738444508>Dark Souls>gameplay audiencdLmao, O O R1 is absolutely not made for gameplay audience, it's a casual series that's slightly above average in difficulty when compared to movie games which lets casual audience pretend they beat an insurmountable challenge when they beat a boss
>>738444440>Dodge RPDI've never tried a dodge LMG build, maybe this is reason for me to redownload the game.
>>738444508Post your mushihimesama 1cc.
Nothing more retarded than a glazer trying to make the 'overcome the challenge' argument when the meta has never been touched. Only alternative, fun solutions which in itself were always less effective than the meta loadout. But you cant expect much from furries who dont play the game.
>>738444508>Fun comes from overcoming new challengesBy the way, as a fun fact, this has been a topic in psychology for the past 20 years.Right now, the inability for people to conform to society, to collectively become a high trust society, is linked to people being challenged too much in video games and other forms of entertainment. You basically end up being good at game X, but burn out at finding or keeping a job because you do not have the necessary mental fortitude and discipline for it anymore. Similiar to the decrease of social skills when parents, friends or other systems alleviate the need to be pro-active. It's why a lot of young people these days are jobless brown losers because they escape their socitial responsibilities as a male through being burned out by video games and social media in this way. Like ideally, males would not be allowed to grow up with challenging video games and being allowed to make social media accounts, because then they redirect their need for competition towards working a job instead of being brown.
>>738442687Does it also shoot Hiveguard heads to punch through other Hiveguard?
>>738445039>Honey! A NEW jewish cope to redirect their responsibility for fucking up society has dropped!
>>738444441Headshots two-shot you even in heavy armour. I'm pretty sure they ignore armour. Shit really doesn't matter at all especially with the changes AH did to enemies where they headshot a lot more consistently now.Just put on light and do the rundiving meta. There's only one breach so if you split up properly you will never see any enemies besides patrols.
>>738445190>society hasn't been fucked up by low test brown males escaping their repsonsibilities>no no no instead it was... le jews!Thank you for admitting that you're brown. Now please denounce the Quran, we don't need more inbred worthless rejects like this polluting high trust socities.
>>738439386What are they crying about now? Game not being easy enough?
>>738439386You can tell that this game is dying because the average pub player you meet has a descending IQ score. The worse the game currently is, the dumber they are.
>>738440075Imagine being the wokest country on earth and fucking despised by minorities who praise american strength in the same breath. They must be writhing to tell this chink that he doesn’t know what’s in his best interest by not supporting them.
>>738440515>making the Railgun slightly worseThe railgun was doing nearly triple the intended damage due to a crossplay bug. AH was told this for months. Instead of fixing the bug, they sliced the damage down so it was doing the intended damage WITH the bug. Then a month later they finally fixed said crossplay bug, which gutted the railgun's damage. It was that way for the better part of a year until the 63 day patch. You don't play the game, Sven.
Am so glad people turn on this game, hated it the first hours when I played despite being a huge pve fag. The feedback was terrible, the batllepass jewish, the enemies either too easy or annoying, everything looks ugly
>>738443616counterpoint:
I just had a game on difficulty 4 and it was surprisingly frustrating. Enemies headshot you a LOT.Pic unrelated: The previous difficulty 6 mission I played (we all died)
>>738441016What is that?
>>738446948synthesis:
If i ever made a game I would just fucking block chinks. If you make something in the game harder they will take it personally and chimp the fuck out.
> Blitz and Eradicate missions are the go-to for farming weapon exp>Shadownerfed to give much less exp than they say they do, put nothing in the patch notes>People report the "bug" that the "UI says I get 400 exp but the mission only gives 150">Stays this way for a over a year>Put out a fix saying the missions now reward the proper amount of exp>Play mission>Get 150 exp, UI says 150 exp.Hellpod steering and strategem bounce were also removed from the known bugs list. They are confirmed to be working exactly as intended. It's rare for a company to have as much contempt for their audience as Arrowhead.
>>738446948kek
>>738447048Expendable Stalwart.
>when you drop into dark red fog
Counterpoint: people will be fine with powerful enemies if you also give them powerful weapons to deal with them. The EDF series hinges on it being one part power fantasy and one part obnoxious bullshit that is 1 gold ant blast away from making you redo a potentially 30 minute long mission. Other option is the Vermintide/Darktide option where all the heavier, more dangerous enemies are rarer but also potentially disastrous if there's too many at a time left unchecked or during a horde event. Though that also relies on player skill and potent skills/weapons to compensate for the difficulty. Helldivers 2 has a dev problem where they expect us to deal with the hordes of EDF, but with the weapons from CoD.
>>738447398
>>738447442>Darktide option where all the heavier, more dangerous enemies are rarermodern havoc or auric shit 15 clipping crushers
>>738447482Darktide also being made by Swedes, having normal Swede dev problems.
>>738447581at least the cunts at fartshark don't needlessly nerf weapons because "you're a reject" (save for the big guy ogryn the most oppressed citizen)
>>738447581Is it really that hidden that Arrowhead and Fatshark are brother/sister studios? They even took men from Fatshark to help then with Helldivers 2. Why do you thing the same balance issues infect both Darktide/Vermintide and Helldivers? They are studios made from the same cloth of content for their players. >>738447442I agreed with you on EDF but then you lost me when you try to differentiate between Fatshark and Fatshark under another name.
>>738447398This one kind of annoys me, I still do like it but I fucking LOVE the volcanic planet where you can't see shit unless something explodes and lights up the surrounding area. Genuinely the coolest fucking biome in the game, I wish there were more thick and dark fog maps like the release versions, shit felt so cool now the very clear visibility feels weird.
>>738447671What do you mean? During the early Vermintide days they really disliked players making fun builds, i remember something about Kruber getting the nerfhammer down upon him, they were very very mad on one specific build
>>738444201>I don't play games to challenge my abilities, i play them to have funlower the difficulty setting.
This planet was very nice.
>>738447703They both use virtually the same shit homemade engine.
>>738447759hallberd? Apart from that, and bounty hunter double shot, they pretty much left op weapons such as the rapier intact
>>738447703I guess I still remember having a fun time with Vermintide 1/2 but even that was plagued with blatantly retarded decisions by the Swedish devs. Arrowhead however seems to have a near constant track record of making games that encourage players to be dicks to each other either by accident or deliberate intention. Magicka 1/2, Helldivers 1/2, that Gauntlet remake. That last one hurt a bit, because up to that point the last Gauntlet game was an action game and not at all like any of the arcade Gauntlets.
i hate to break it to you but arrowhead has been sabotoging their own game from day one. their vision of the game is LOL WACKY EXPLOSIONS! LOL GIBS! They literally picture the average player screaming as they swerve left and right with their PS5 controller as if playing a driving game in an ad. balance? they have no fucking clue. everything in the game that works well or feels good is only from sheer coincidence, and not actively designed to do so. mechs and vehicles? design to blow up in your face for funny explosions! as someone who has pretty much exclusively played on haz 10 up until the first super earth invasion I can tell you they have no fucking idea what they're doing and never will. there's a lot of fun to be had in helldivers 2, but all of that fun is COINCIDENTAL, none of the devs designed the game to be played in a fun way. helldivers 2 is a party game where you to run in a circle, watch your little guy scream, and explode. (which is how they usually design their games)
>>738439386Cant believe people still play this game. It was fun for 2 hours but it gets boring real fast
>>738447835Locking content behind your BDSM experience is not something i agree with. How about you self impose a challenge by playing with your eyes closed. That is a challenge you try and i wouldn't be affected by it. You get to sweat as much as you want and i am not disturbed by your garbage.
>>738447932Toxic and retarded
>>738448002>i want the final boss to be as easy as the lvl 1 goblindude.
>>738448102I feel like i am trying to put a ball in the middle of a line and someone comes and slaps the ball to one extreme or the other...and the the same person is confused why i would be upset.
>>738439698Everyone says this until the ethnostate starts bringing out the phrenologist
>>738448197>WOAH WOAH WOAH DUDE...I WAS ONLY LARPING! RELAX! I AM 100% ETHNICALLY PURE IN MY HEART,BRO!
>>738448197I have extremely kino physiognomy and phrenological metrics. High IQ and a big nordic lightbulb head, enormous frontal lobe
>>738448236Now i am upset because i came up with a better one but i will have to reply to myself.>I find the Starship Troopers fascism satire tiresome because I want actual ethnofascism in my country>Pic related
>>738448340Don’t worry they’ll find something to get you for
>>738439386>Boot this game>PC goes WHSERTESVSEWHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR>Go to settings>Lowest graphical levels to everything, ultra performance DLSS, 1080p resolution>WHRWHRHRWRHHRSHQRQRHWRHRRRRRRRRRRRR>Room gets super warm>Mfw RTX 4080S and i7 14700
>>738441308Republic of China lost the mainland, you mean.
>>738439386OMG epic!! New cape when??
>>738448519Hd2 doesn't have dlss jackass
>>738448518I've had the exact same conversation today with someone else on this website, it's a retarded slippery slope argument or a brainlet conflation between additive/positive eugenics and subtractive/negative eugenics when libtards insist that all eugenic policy necessarily leads to systematic liquidation of the entire population. And that's not even to mention that an ethnostate need not engage in eugenicist policy in the first place.
>>738447123
>>738448750Damn where did you get this picture of me
Hey I don't play this game just from my impression it seems like everyone involved is fucking retarded. Not surprised that one tranny-loving shooter used a meme of this game
>>738445039>>738445298>No, it isn't the fact that every asset of worth is so overpriced that nothing at all of tangible value can be gained by laboring in the modern era, its a DEEP PSYCHOLOGICAL wound caused by CHALLENGING VIDEOGAMES that's fucking up western world!!!>Now, look the other way while I defraud every aspect of your society, goyim. And remember, 10 hour shifts are the new normal! Get back to work!No.
>>738448197Phrenology may be a bum science, but I've never seen or heard someone with a bad head shape do or say something that wasn't bad head shape-like.
>>738439386"horde shooter" fans in charge of finding a game that where the devs don't hate them
nerf troons having a melty it's a telltale sign we are on the right path hopefully sony will hand over the IP to someone who doesn't hate their own player base
>>738447285That sounds pretty cool.
>>738447840Ice Moons are the best.
>>738449628>I'm mentally impairedWe know
There's a way to make this game harder noone would complain about. Just spawn more enemies. Gunning down hordes is legitimately fun, it encourages teamplay and you don't need to nerf anything.
>>738439913How about literally XCOM? Replace aliens with your minority of choice with mods.
>>738451482>noone would complain aboutConsoletards will complain when their toasters catch on flame.
>>738451482>Just spawn more enemies They did that with vox engines spawns and it cause a huge melty from redditors and buff troons. There is literally nothing arrowhead van do to make the game more challenging without causing a tamper tantrum from the manchildren.
>>738440075Pretty rich coming from the fragile chink who cried literal tears when a chink city got destroyed. Google "hurting the feelings of the chinese people" for more funnies
>>738439386still no offline mode like in HD1? LMAO
>>738451482>There's a way to make this game harder noone would complain about. Just spawn more enemies.doesn't matter if there's 10 or 20 devastators in the blast range of my orbital, they're all dying regardless
The max difficulty mode isn't allowed to be hard or else it will cause a mass troon suicide. The lives of millions of troons, gamer dads, redditors and /hdg/ troons rest on the shoulders of Arrowhead. I do not envy the position they are in.
People who still play Helldivers 2 are just a bunch of battered housewives. It's been painfully obvious since the start of the game that the devs hate their players and they're almost literally yelling STOP HAVING FUN
>>738451743As it should be. Killing more = better
helldivers players are some of the most whiny and entitled in gamingthat fact that I keep seeing people compare hd2 to destiny 2 blows my fucking mindyou fuckass retards don't have it nearly anywhere as bad as destiny playersinfact, you don't have it that bad at all, hd2 is one of the better managed live service games regardless what ohdough tells youcould things be better? sure, the galactic war is rigged dogshit and we need armor customization yesterdaycould things be significantly worse? yeah and it's not even closecrydivers kill yourselves, I'm completely serious
>>738451585Because Arrowhead has a tendency of releasing new enemies, spamming the ever loving shit out of them, then realizing later they didn't really add any noticeable weakpoints besides "just hit it with all of your AT lol". They did this back when they introduced Illuminate and the abominations didn't actually have a weakness and were just bullet sponges. They did it again with Into the Unjust and made the Scorch Roaches who would keep flying despite having more holes in their wings than swiss cheese, and the rupture variants that were all 1 armor class higher than their base variants. So yeah, AH is notorious for being infamously shit at enemy design. They done did it again with yet another new strain of Bile Titan with the spore burst bugs that it has more health than the standard bile, is spammed, and it can intentionally spread the spores with its bile attack to make all the little bugs into crackheads. How many times do we have to go on this merry-go-round of incompetence before they just make the damn test servers and put the new patch ideas there before going straight to the public with it?
>>738439440>>738441578>it's the high-iq han blood that are acute in calling out bullshit compared to other raped lotVery telling
>>738451972What's a test server? We just push from dev to prod.t. Arrowhead, probably
>>738451942I don't know a thing about destiny but with the poor enemy design, Arrowhead "balancing", pretending MOs are fine, and their shitty warbond debacle to be honest, I don't really think things could be much worse
>>738441883Damn, this reply really got the casuals angry. You all know it's true too, /v/ has probably the worst gamers on this website ironically enough, the sort of cattle that play all games on easy.
>>738448197Speak for yourself.
The worst part of Helldivers is the "community"Those faggots are just constantly having meltdowns, something new every week that apparently ruins the game and destroyed everything forever. And yet they keep playing, and whenever I hop on and play a few games, I have fun every time. This community must be insanely autistic and not in a good way.
>>738452030Well it's not like they're allowed to criticize their government. This is the next best thing.
>>738449628BUM SCIENCE*to the tune of Weird Science*
>>738452451Their meltdowns are justified kinda. The thing is, normal people just stop playing whent he devs clearly hate their players and make the game less fun. The autists keep screeching but also keep playing.
>>738452502>posting 'AT LEAST WE HAVE FREEDOM' in 2026Have some shame dude.
>>738452683Yeah don't remind me. "Freedom" in 2026 is a fucking joke no matter where you go.
>>738449628>I've never seen or heard someone with a bad head shape do or say something that wasn't bad head shape-like.Truuuuue. You ever noticed chinese people have the ugliest head shape? flat at the back and strangely box-like. Very uncanny.
>>738439386Played yesterday and had a blast.
>>738439386So glad I never bought this shit.
>>738440075they are right, this game gives the player 0(zero, nada) control, everything they do is completely pointless, and i don't mean that an individual can't change the course of the war, i mean the entire community together can't make a single difference, everything is decided by the devs and they kind of you the illusion of choice while bitterly cursing the players for not failing as they would have wanted
>>738453480Its a great game ruined by crybaby playerbase and dev team that's gaslighting itself to doubt every good decision they've done.
>>738453568>gaslightingStop talking like a girl
>>738449628>>738448197It's almost like genetics affect both physical appearance and mental attributes. It's not 100% accurate but you can get more than a 60% accurate idea of what a person is like just by looking at them. Their face, their head, their body, how they walk, etc.
>>738439386Are Helldivers players the new Destiny 2 players? No matter how hard the devs cuck them, they'll still be there to complain the next time they do.
>>738439698video games? also seek help psycho
>>738453606Need a tissue? Did you skip your naptime?
>>738439386This game has been a review rollercoaster since day one, I stopped playing it because it just got boring and grindy.
I think it's very odd that certain people cast themselves as being victims of the devs, like they are personally being violated by themPathological and insecure
>>738445298Denounce the Torah, dude. Muslims won't. You won't either. You never do. Wonder (((why)))
>>738453568What good decisions most of what arrowheads done is take a good thing and ruin it. They do it like clock work faggot hell the mechs aren't even new to getting buffs and then nerfed back into uselessness.
>>738454348People use the mechs all the time though
>>738454401Nobody uses mechs in a serious capacity at the highest difficulties. At least not back when I played.
>Helldivers dicksuckers be like "Good difficulty game design is when an enemy looks in your general direction and you automatically die"
They made it too difficult to balance. Instead of just having a binary armored/non armored part on an enemy it's all this hardness and durability or whatever the fuck and they need to tweak every weapon and every part of every enemy to not be too difficult or too easy to kill. It's fucking stupid, they brought this on themselves.
>>738453690femcel smelly femcelno boyfriend femcel
Did they ever end up nerfing the cuckchair? That thing was fun because for once you didn't have to do giga level math to know if your gun or stratagem would actually harm the enemy. It just wrecked everything.
>>738454510>Nobody uses mechs in a serious capacity at the highest difficulties.Wrong. You also just outed yourself as never playing D10 on hive worlds.
From my understanding most of the Helldivers 2 complaints is that the game is "too hard" and not fun because of that, but isn't there an option to pick a difficulty? What am I missing?
>>738454510>hello, I am an AIDS faggot who hasn't played the game since FOTM window had ended. Here are my thoughts on the game balance:
>>738455936Most complaints aren't, you also can't read the thread.
>>738456026I read the thread and that is what it is, if you think the difficulty is unfair or bad... why not just lower it?
>>738453675We are all Japanese
>>738455936It's not that it's too hard, people who say that are retards who don't play the game. The issue with the game is that devs think max difficulty should be le ebin mode where you fail half of the time and get really angry when players don't. So to compensate for that, they spam bullet sponge enemies that can one-shot you randomly at any range or spam attacks that endlessly ragdolls you to force you to die. It's not difficulty, it's just dumb game design.
>>738456093Oh you have no reading comprehension and start crying about something I wasn't talking about. What a surprise.
>>738455936>too hardThis is a big simplification of a set of complicated issues. People clear on highest difficulty all the time.It would take too much time to explain and it probably wouldn't mean anything to someone who doesn't play the game anyways
>>738456170>So to compensate for that, they spam bullet sponge enemies that can one-shot you randomly at any range or spam attacks that endlessly ragdolls you to force you to die. It's not difficulty, it's just dumb game design.It's not 2024 anymore. All the enemies in the game have been severely neutered.
>>738456264>it's not 2024 anymore>leviathans were released in 2025>vox engines were released 3 months ago
>>738456264I think you haven't played in a while either. You are talking a while ago.during which enemies were indeed neutered to shit.
>>738456378>Leviathans Nerfed into the ground>Vox engines Next on the list. You only listed two enemies but left out the 3 dozen other, weak enemies. Why?
>>738456507>nerfed into the groundMore like people stopped caring about them since no one plays illuminates and they only spawn in mega-cities now>next on the listYeah well we're still waiting.Oh I'll add the fire shotgun devs to the list too, it can randomly one-shot you through any armor at about 50m range and there's no strategy around it since it's completely random. Been in the game for over a year now. The point is, there's a reason most games with that style spam weak enemies with the eventual special enemies that should be focused on when they spawn. Once you just get rid of the chaff and only spam specials with random instakill abilities, you're not making difficulty anymore, you're just sabotaging your game out of spite. Especially since this is a pattern that keeps happening over and over again.
>>738441883>>738441487Both of these posts are 100% without question true. The HD2 community are some of the whiniest cunts I've ever seen on the internet and they cry over the dumbest of things. D10 just isn't fun, so I play D8. I have a couple friends who exclusively play D10 and love it. It's literally just this retarded virgin fanbase who wholeheartedly believe that everything being OP makes a game better, and difficulties shouldn't exist that are too difficult for players. It's the most retarded whining and crying you'll ever see, and they do it on repeat. If you've played the game over the past 6 months, you'd know that nothing significant has changed, yet these people act as if the game suddenly became unplayable. The reality is they're just whiny cunts. These fuckers want to run the same loadout every mission into every enemy and wipe the floor with them.
>>738439386Based.
>>738449628
>>738452682The only justified one was the Sony account bait and switch.Everything is just autistic manchild tantrum.
>>738455936
>>738458825The chinks were the real shitters all along.
>use torcher, have a grand ol time>switch off torcher, get overwhelmed by enemy forcesI think the only matchup torcher doesn't work for me is the new illuminate sub faction but golly, going off torcher against everything else is tough
>>738439496There's actually 1,1 million reviews.Problem?
>>738439386Every update player are chimping out but still continue playing this trash and shilling it to everyone they know. A video with complains from long time player popped up into my Youtube recommendations once and it turned out that lots of annoying bullshit like being unable to land on a safe elevated spot was actually implemented post-launch for the sake of fun policing.I dunno what state this game was at launch, maybe it was a fun horde shooter people shilled it as, but when I last played it (summer 2025) it was the worst bug/zombie coop shooter I've played.You gotta have terminal stage Stockholm syndrome to keep playing this trash when there are so many alternatives.
>>738460138>You gotta have terminal stage Stockholm syndrome to keep playing this trash when there are so many alternatives.Agreed but also not really. What GOOD alternative is there to a coop objective based turd person shooter where you can call in mechs and all kinds of airstrikes/orbital barrages?
More games should emulate its success
There is nothing wrong with the game. It's just toxic entitled racist gamers who want the highest difficulty to be easy. Now if you will excuse me I have to take my wife's son to school
>>738439496Steam bots to improve score
>>738442886>>738443785feels like i missed out on a great game, should i bother with PD2 in current year? the game has like 20K daily players but most of them have probably been playing for a decade now
tired of the sweden defense force always coming out of the woodworkto defend arrowhead when>orbital airburst has been useless since illuminate release since they moved the super destroyers to the edge of the map, so it covers a uselessly wide area>network desync on corpses and ragdolls>invisible ragdoll hitboxes catching your bullets and explosives>hellpod steering and stratagem bouncing system absolutely riddled with issues>200$ of slopbonds that have at most 3 good things in them and the rest of it is padded with bullshit>”legendary” warbonds at a 50% price increase that all contain 100% inferior gear>impaler tentacles can still presist and attack you for 10+ seconds after the impaler they belong to dies>mechs and vehicles getting destroyed by pelican support fire before they even get dropped>alpha warriors can call bug breaches while they’re still underground and being spawned by an alpha commander>enemies regularly getting stuck in inaccessible terrain or on cliffs>boring as fuck mission templates and we havent gotten new mission types in forever>boring as fuck armor passives and boosters>galactic war is a completely railroaded farce that is regularly tampered with or given objectives that quickly reveal the playerbase has no agency, on top of planetary capture alway requiring 50%+ of the active playerbasewhat fucking issues DOESN’T this game have goddamn
>>738441487>they made the game harder and more interesting.AEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I CAN'T LARP NOW AFTER WORK >:*((((THE REDDIT WILL HEAR ABOUT THIS
>>738460661Well, if you gotta narrow it down this hard.EDF and DRG do most of these things infinitely better.
>>738439386Is this Chinese people crying about nothing again while the rest of the world has a positive opinion of the game?>>738441578Yep.
>>738461636>near-invincible units that can randomly one-shot you is hard and interestingWill you play my custom L4D server with perma-hordes and 8 tanks at once? It's hard and interesting!
>>738441487>Guess what, they made the game harder and more interestingNo they didn't, I'm not one to review bomb because of nerfs or whatever but the game has never been easier. I guess the spore variant is strong because of the speed boost but that's about it.
>>738441323>because I will just grab one of yourIf I pace my shots instead of spraying I'll just call down another before I'm even finished. Bulletstorm is amazing for expendable builds.
>>738443936Starbreeze accidentally made a good game out of PD2. It was ass on release, just like PD3 was ass on release. They never learn.
>>738458825>screenshot from last year
helldivers solidly deserves a ~60% review score anyway, the dev studio arrowhead is incompetent as fuck
if anyone are wondering whats going on here why is everyone complaining>Lingering invisible corpse collision>bad balance ie diligence can no longer one-tap warrior heads due to durable buffs to bugs that were not listed on patches>drop pods launch you randomly 100 meters away from the reinforcement orb>drops pods can't move because of the invisible walls they placed two years ago>climb is still fucked after it was nerfed since launch>close range flames pass through enemies on turrets and Lumberer>Enemies still spawn within line of sight>hunters can still pounce on hosts through walls>some projectiles like thermites and ultimatums sometimes pass through enemies like hulks and titans>stratagem bounce was silently removed from the list of bugs to fix>false promises. Shams promised / said that they're heavily looking / working on an armory rework year+ ago>Your backpack stratagem weapon gets bricked if the reload was interrupted during team reload. You can't shoot or load it at all>chargers freaking out or fast walking: Not fixed since release>chargers giga-tracking hosts>Epoch sometimes bugs out and makes no sound, turning it into a staring game to use>Blitz and Eradicate XP bonus being broken>Hulks and Devastators still do full body rotations while shooting you through their body / shield>AT still has a random 0.5 second delay after being fully extended>breaching Hammer' doesn't have Demo 40 to actually breach city walls>warriors still are often silent when unobserved>new Breakthrough Mech's left arm slightly clips into the shield, allowing it to be destroyed through it at some angles>still no loadout slots >host gets maximum priority for enemy aggro and spawns>impalers keep attacking after deathtaht being said nuke sweden
>>738447840arrowhead could (theoretically) do a space exploration game very well, HD2's environments are top tier
Is the minigun good yet?
Im on their side, super discord & super reddit will die
I bought this game a year ago and never played it. Is it worth playing?
>>738439386I hate reddit so much>WAAAH NERFS>WAAAH MY STARTER GUN ISN'T HEAVY PEN>WAAAH NOT THE HECKING RAGDOLL>WAAAH WHY IS MY META CLUTCH WEAKER??>WAAAH WHY CAN'T THEY FIX THIS (insert very meaningless bug or feature) ALREADY?! IT'S BEEN HALF A YEAR!>WAAAH THEY SHOULD GIVE EVERYTHING FOR FREE (even though they literally already are)>WAAAH THE GALACTIC WAR SHOULD BE MORE REWARDING, MORE GIBS!! MORE !! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN I SHOULD PLAY A GAME FOR THE SAKE OF ENJOYING IT LIKE THE OLDEN DAYS!?>WAAAH I WANT TO CUSTOMIZE MY MECH, MY GUN AND MY ASS EVEN THOUGH I SWAP THEM MORE OFTEN THAN I CHANGE UNDERWEARIt literally doesn't matter what the devs do, these people always bitch and moan, the last time I saw actual positive discourse was when the game's filesize was cut by over 70%
>>738463101spoiler alert the game install being 130 gb was because sweden thought that duplicating the game assets 4 times marginally improved load times for cavemen still using hard disk drivesit was also a change they outsourced because they’re fucking retarded
>>738463101Have you considered that instead of making your live service game (without the live service) le ebin 10x harder than d4rk s0uls, maybe make your game, I don't know... Fun?
>>738462195>>screenshot from last year
>>738462405>impalersall you had to say. most retarded cartoon bullshit enemy in any shooter, my experience would be immeasurably improved if these stupid fucking things simply did not exist
>ITT:
>>738458520>Sony account bait and switchWho even fucking cares except third worlders? Literally the only ones impacted by that.Most people that complained about that are actually normies.
>>738462801probably not,I can't think of any situation where you'd want it>slows you down immensely>can't turn>can't see shit in first person because the muzzle flash is so intense>does not have the kind of armor piercing that would justify all these downsidesYou're better off using a regular machinegun (any of them) with a supply backpack over the maxigun,they probably only made that weapon solely for the funny factor>>738463264I don't really care who made the fix, all I know is that it was the last time I saw people being positive>>738463318oh no.. the maximum difficult is.. le difficult!?If I can solo 7-10 difficulty, it deserves to be more difficult, and you know it's actual fun when they make changes that you have to adapt to.When I saw the ridiculously fast little bugs, I just laughed, meanwhile the average redditor is seething their balls off at the injustice
>>738463589It's funny because people don't mind the fast bugs. People did mind the broken teleporting rupture strain, they did mind the 8 vox engines at once, they did mind the leviathans which were all horribly designed, so much so that it makes one wonder how this shit got past QA.
>>738463394>"microtransactions galore"these people are genuinely laughableI havent even gotten 300 hours in the game and I already unlocked practically everything except superstore items, all for no extra payments beyond super citizen edition
>>738463692and once again this comes down to what that one anon said about players feeling "entitled to win"How about reduce the difficulty?>but I NEED more medals!farm ityou want to play for fun, or you want to play for medals?max difficulty medal farming is done brainlesslylowest difficulty medal famring is done brainlesslythe only thing left is playing for fun and that is by no means done at max difficulty
>>738442140tranny, saar
>>738463858I want to play for fun. Spamming broken unbalanced enemies that one-shots you at range with zero way to dodge or visual indicator is not fun. Just. Make. The. Game. Fun.
>>738439386>>738462405this AND>first time a whole vehicle 'type' has been sold in a warbond (previously just cosmetics) & slamming the door shut on vehicle customization when cheat engine users can frankenstein mechs and enemies together however they want>making a common chaff enemy armor 4 without redoing the logic of the call in turrets people use to fight said chaff enemies (this was the only real problem with making them A4 desu, aside from it making explosive weapons even stronger)>Pilestedt is awoken from cryogenic freeze to deal with this, and he hosts a Reddit AMA. He does it on THE ANGRY SUBDREDDIT. In the process of people asking about progression mechanics, end game updates, QoL, and customization - he reveals that not only are these things not coming soon, they're either YEARS out or haven't even been worked at all. He admits that 'mid game progression' is their primary focus, as is creating new content. He claims that community feedback has indicated there isn't enough new content and all their new drops have been insufficient, so they focus solely on peoples appetite for more 'new' stuff - aka new zones and enemies and ofc NEW WARBONDS. >He's also accidentally condescending in some parts ('Oh you sweet summer child'), reveals that they're completely unaware of the heaps of organized feedback players have been trying to give them for two years, and shows a massive disconnect between the companies perceptions of the communities desires and what are being expressed by the Community. >Arrowhead immediately completely reverts ONE(1) controversial change in the new patch (giving Hive Guards AP4 armor). This leads to interfaction fighting in the community as the crydiver v glazediver divide once more rears it's head>The new terminid strain catches people offguard as the bugs are actually so fast now their animations are glitching and the new bile titans have twice as much health and spawn 3x as fast and ragdoll you from range with their breath attack
>>738448738It's not that it necessarily does it's just that all instances we have of it happening in history typically does
>>738439386I don't even know what they're bitching about. I've tried reading it and it's just a bunch of vagueposting, something about more end game? I don't even know what that could possibly mean, it's not an MMO and progress? Does every game need to be a never ending progress bar now?
>>738464040>>738462405>>738464142oh and the game still hardlocks a lot of people's computers and performance has been in the shitter since into the unjust because they fucked with AI>>738463858DID YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU CAN JUST FARM SUPERCREDITS?YOU CAN JUST TURN DOWN THE DIFFICULTY!?NOOOOO WAAYY!commit etika
Tldr?
Play a different game at that point that's entirely on you especially if some pipedream scenario
>>738464210nuke sweden
>>738464040Vehicles were a bad idea, the people who use mechs are the cringiest fucking people on the planet. Every mech should do gif related and die in only a few hits. The people who complain about they just want to be immune to gameplay.
>>738464142They could've just did something like DRG and gave everyone infinite levels that rewards nothing except bragging points. But no, can't even do that in this shithole of a country.
New damage control posted.>Plans to expand GW>More minor orders with more significant rewards>Less filler defense MO's with a focus on tying them together into a longer narrative>Branching MO's that take into account player actions instead of railroading>We apologize for making so many changes not in the patch notes>We decided that this information was not necessary for the players to know and could cause information overload>We will be more active with patching and bug fixes>We will start QA testing our updates on a closed beta server>New free stratagems coming eventually
>>738464040>armor, vehicle, and (actually substantial) gun customiztion permanently never ever’d even though all the tools to make them work are right thereAll game design and balance revolving around how they can sell you the next warbond has been an absolute cancer on this game and it’s gotten progressively worse. This mtx system of theirs is simply antithetical to allowing fun.
>>738447482Dont vet shredder nades nuke them? Been a year since i played but i know that was one of the go to's for dealing with crusher/bulwark squads
>>738464402I member when the game came out and everyone was praising the warbond system since it was technically free and didn't have FOMO.now it's gone a full 180.This is the swedish curse taking hold I reckon.
>>738441883this post has been fact checked by real American patriots: TRUE
>>738464372They just copy-pasted their previous ""apology"" from a year or two ago, didn't they?
>>738464372I'll believe it when I see it. They'll change course for a month or two and then fuck up all over again most likely.
>>738442136it's third world retards like yourself that can't handle games with any difficulty but still refuse to lower the difficulty because you will lose izzat if you do
>>738464573I called this shit from a mile away weeks after launch and everyone dumped on me for it, and now the game is basically impossible to get new players on because they need to either buy in even more, or grind like their lives depend on it to catch up.
>>738441883>>738441487You actually made me check the reddit and one of the top posts is a faggot crying that he can't melee a stalker with the slow hammer and him ragequitting.Are they all this retarded?
>>738451540Are there any mods that stops my guys from spawning with thirdworld names?
>>738464858The hammer is supposed to release an explosion that would kill the stalker, but because you get staggered when hit, it cancels out the explosion but doesn't cancel the melee animation, making it do literally nothing. Now tell me, is this supposed to be an intended game design element or just the game being broken as usual?
>>738464962Sounds more like it should just cancel the animation.But that's not what you faggots are crying about.
>>738464372>muh GWliterally no one gives a shit about the war, everyone just want to kill stuff
Is the sperg this annoying in the general too or does he get banned on sight there?
>>738464962>go for a high-risk move>it doesn't work>"this game is broken"????
>>738464573>This is the swedish curse taking hold I reckon.It's absolutely the Swedish curse yeah. Apparently everyone who actually has to deal with Sweden agree's the Swedish are arrogant stubborn cunts with some near-chinese obsession with keeping face. It doesn't help that the studio is only open for 6-9 months out of the year
>>738465101Yes. The problem is the high risk move doesn't work not that it fails.
>>738465091Literally as pointless as it was in HD1
>>738465158Functionally doesn't work as in you get staggered even when you don't get hit? Having a melee attack that can kill an enemy but with risk of being staggered cancelling the attack would actually be a really good design.
>>738465101So, let's say if every time you took damage in any way, your weapons stopped working for about two seconds (but you still waste your ammo), would that be good game design?
>>738464636>I'll believe it>most likelyThe fact that you're even considering the tiniest probability of them not fucking up after doing it over and over and over again at all just shows that they are 100% in the right. Why change anything when you can repeatedly shit on your players face and they will still go like "well maybe this time will be different, let's see".
>>738439386How does such a basic barebones wave shooter manage to have a new controversy every other week?
>>738465306It's a melee weapon, and I assume that the explosion in question is a one-hill kill, so that kind of high-risk high-reward mechanic would be great, yeah.
>>738440075based
>>738465380in this case it's ironically BECAUSE it's such a basic barebones wave shooter, players wanted new system and the developers revealed there was no intention to do such, only more warbond content. Aka paid keys jingling.
>>738465476What are they expecting though the game literally was advertised as a barebones wave shooter? I don't get why so many people buy in to these cheap clearly only one game mode games then expect them to suddenly become a whole new game 3-4 years down the line
>>738465580Probably because it's pushed as a GaaS and that comes with a certain expectation of support in exchange for the ongoing money. Also, HD2's developers are ridiculously out of touch and actually see their product as a tactical mil-sim (I am not making this up) and are constantly fighting with the players who just want a horde shooter.
>>738453514Outside of Foxhole or Planetside 1, and like Eve, no online games player-driven narratives. It feels like people want something way more than what was advertised, a 4 player co-op horde shooter. No one seems this obsessed with DRG just being DRG.
>>738465653You're not entitled to have the game changed for you. But they already caved to whiney faggots once so it was over from the start.
>>738463985Then play easier difficulty, use shield generator, use heavy armor,Stop being one of those insufferable light-armor mobility pack roodypoos who just speed run 7+ difficulty and then get mad when that suddenly isn't an option anymore.>>738464205completely dropping the pretense that you're playing for funyou just like C&B T or choose hardest difficulty just because you want to get more rewards
>>738439386I do not care And why should I? Just shoot the Bots and bugs that's all there is to it
>>738439386Good game a good sequel evenShit "community", Shit Devs, Shit Social media presence a shame really
>>738465734>Use shieldLiterally a waste of a slot in all cases lol only 2 things in the game that can 1 shot heavy armour are cannon shell DIRECT impacts, not the explosion splash and crush damage from shit like a bile titan.Both are easily avoided by walking the fuck away from it. The morons who complain about hd2 are just shitters using controllers. The game is incredibly casual. The most casual main stream title of the past decade.
>>738464334Vehicles were in HD1 and they are a stratagem just like any otherYou want a nuke that blasts any enemy in one shot and has a 90 sec cooldown? "balanced"or you want a heavy weapon that lasts you the entire game and can be ammo refilled freely? "balanced"You want a vehicle that will blow up in less than 10 seconds under pressure, can't refill ammo and has about two uses in a mission if you're lucky due to insane usage cooldown? "REE NO CAN DO, YOU'RE A SHITTER WHO WANTS TO AVOID GAMEPLAY"Ok bro,I could say the same thing about anyone running warp pack, eruptor and orbital laser
BTW, if you hold right click when you throw your stratagem, it's more likely to stick on the first place it lands.
>>738444201git gud
>>738466070Yeah. HD1 was a horde shooter video game. HD2 is some weird fucking attempt at throwing PVP ideas into PVE horde shooters, and mixing in milsim that nobody asked for but at the same time having an armor that can save you from a nuke based purely on cognitive dissonance. It needs some kind of unified direction, but Pilestedt is a worthless cuck faggot and Shams Jorjani is a brown jew.
>shitters are so bad at the game that a they started downvoting because one enemy of a hundred got an increase of armor to their headLOL:LMAO even! This is peak >>>/r/eddit behaviour but i did not expect people totry and replicate it here on /v/. I always thought that here on /v/ we were good at playing videogames. I guess OP is not.
>>738444201I'm so sick of Metroidvanias having souls-like progression in them. Blasphemous would be the coolest game ever if not for this.
>>738466229You've never played the game.
>>738466229I don't even understand all the recent "milsim" shit people mention with HD2. Do you guys even play games like Arma or even ones that try to shed some of that like Squad or Hell Let Loose? The movement alone like diving backwards while shooting is not something that evokes "this game is trying to be a milsim".
>>738466229>pvp ideaselaborateI don't know what you're on about, but the direction is fine, the only thing that isn't is the bugs and balance, both of which aren't that gamebreaking.Metafags refuse to use anything but the best, and "official creator" youtubers are insufferable whiners who keep comparing content updates to "bandaids"They claim that all the game needs is fixes but secretly beg for content because that is literally what gives them their paychecks and views. There are a few youtubers who absolutely thrive on the negative and bitchy endless complaints content, however, and I'm sure the devs are on to them.
>reinstall the game>bugs from day one release still not fixed>tons of warbonds designed to get more money out of you for a paid game>uninstall>keep negative reviewSimple as.
>>738448197I'm switching majors to Phrenology, I'll be fine.
>>738466432Just ignore redit posts. Hd2 was better at launch because it was built for team reloading the RR to counter mass heavy enemies. Now it just some gatcha visual novel nuke spamming garbage. I've not seen a single valid complaint about it, just casual tourists saying "it's hard" when it's not. Fuck at least complain about the broken reload animations or the stupid vaulting knee high rocks or how shit every non explosive weapon is
This game is negroidized garbage for retards that eat slop. This company is fucking shit. You retards are literally playing a game with forced always online DRM and microtransactions out the ass, as well as being packaged with the most malware-grade "anticheat" in existence that even the gooks who own it abandoned.Why the fuck don't you just play EDF, which is better in every way, and isn't "live service" vomit that sees you as cattle?
>>738443317When you have a child that throws tantrums over chicken nuggies you say that the family dog went to the farm
>>738466432Don't waste my time with disingenuous questions.Everyone who isn't a dishonest redditor glazer knows what the "milsim" reference to HD2 means.>>738466469Yeah I have no fucking clue what you're going on about, but I'm sure it's more dishonest glazer faggotry so I'm going just call you on it.
>>738464897 why don't you just fire them to roleplay as a commander who's fanatically anti-DEI?
one day the chinese are going to finally clue in that literally no one cares what they say
>>738466645Bugs are often complained about, Glazer. But you're a faggot, so you intentionally ignore it.
Can't wait for the Chinese HD2 clone where you are just super overpowered with special abilities and can pay for characters who do what you do, but better.
>>738466931ok, keep throwing buzzwords instead of actually answering any questions>Everyone knows what I'm talking about!>No I won't tell you!
>>738467038Isn't that just EDF?
Imagine being so dogshit at this game that bugs are giving you trouble
>>738467068No faggot. I'm not wasting my time with you. It's not happening any more. Go back to your discord with the other troons.
>>738467109>I'm not wasti-Yet you seem all too eager to waste your time on meaningless replies when you could've used the same lettercount to actually explain your sorry ass
>>738467165Nope. Not happening. Go waste someone else's time.
I bought $30 of super credits
>>738467082EDF gives you bullshit weapons to deal with bullshit enemies. It's both more fun than HD2, letting you kill huge hoards of fodder while also being more challenging and harder than HD2.The first time meeting Inferno Excavators in EDF6 shadows even the most difficult d10 hive world or cyberstan.
>>738467231You're proving my point with every "last word" you have to diarrhea out,I'm more than happy to make you waste time in your pointless >"you're wasting my time! I have to let you know you're wasting my time instead of leaving concrete explanations to my opinions" -posts
>>738439698>I want actual ethnofascism in my countryok ramirez
>>738467257What a waste. if you play this game enough sooner or later you run into some hacker who cheats everyone one million supercredits.
>>738464372boy sure hope they keep their promises this time unlike the other times they promised the same exact fucking thing several times already
>>738466627You realistically need 2 more warbonds besides the free warbond everyone gets.>Chemical Warfare>Cutting EdgeThis is all you need and you're set on all fronts against all enemy types for SuperHelldive difficulty.
>>738467257How much even is that?You can get 1k credits in a few hours if you're patient, but I totally understand if someone values their time more than that.Personallly I just watch some stream or youtube video on the side while I collect the gibs. No way am I paying for that shit when I've already unlocked like everything you can buy with SC just from a few hundred hours of gameplay
>>738466432People talk about "milsim" and "realism" because it's an excuse devs used in the past to justify the jank in their game>we can't give this shit weapon more bullets in the magazine because we'd have to change the model of the magazine>we can't give it more damage because then it'd change every weapon's damage because it uses a specific ammo type>this fantasy weapon that fire big exploding plasma shots can't blow up holes or containers because it's not realistic and it's plasma and plasma is weightless>the useless flag that takes up your support slot and a stratagem slot and also has worse stats than the spear that takes your secondary slot can't provide a buff to players in range because we don't do space magic (has a literal space magic armor and introduced enemies that buffed other enemies in range)>we nerfed the flamethrowers so they behave more realistically (from damaging enemies through armor to flames just bouncing off armor)Etc etc...
>>738467370Last reply for you, faggot. I'm not "debating" you so you can waste my time and act like a nigger.
>>738467457Then include it in the basegame.
>>738467429I did it to support the devs since I really got my money's worth out of a $50 game.It was 2000 super credits
>>738452030what is it with gooks and their hate for this game specifically?
>>738466648But I do. I have 2k hours just in EDF6. Why would that stop me from voicing critique at HD2?
>>738464962Eh, it could be okay if enemy melee attacks staggered the player and interrupted the animation. Even then, if the hits are close enough together that should result in a trade, so yeah, it's the game being broken, that bug ruins what fun memes melee could give.The aim snapping bug where the circle crosshair snaps/gets stuck to object is still more annoying though.
They should really enable thread id, you know just for the lulz
>>738467513I don't care, your deserate need for getting the last word doesn't make you right, it just makes you the avoid discourse.It makes you someone who can't assert their reasoning and would rather insult the honest questioner than actually pinpoint what the problem is.The funny part is, I wasn't even debating you, I was simply asking what the fuck do you mean with "PVP ideas",someone else wanted to know about the milsim shit but apparently even that was a question too complicated for you
>>738467732It won't improve shit.
>>738465653>GaaSThey are still providing support, you know for the game mode they told you it was going to be, if you buy in to GaaS and expect a totally new and revamped game every year you're delusional and need to stop buying in to them
>>738467517Well, they are kinda included. You get super credits as you're leveling the basic warbond and you'll be able to get the two warbonds by the time you finish leveling the basic warbond. The real problem is that most people don't know what to get with the initial super credits and up getting something that for a niche playstyle. The gas warbond solves bugs and cutting edge solves squids. The basic warbond provides all you need against bots. Now as i am playing and gathering super credits i am buying any warbond i can imagine a meme strategy with or has a funny emote.
>>738467770>Waahh waah he was mean to me on 4chan.You aren't worth a debate. Your opinion is so dogshit all you get is a sincere please go and kill yourself. Your family would be happier if you killed yourself right now. Please end your life. Simple as. And no I'm not the anon you replied to.
>>738467492See how the faggot ignored your perfect explanatory post? This is why I didn't bother. It's not here to learn, it's here to gaslight, strawman, ad hom, move goalposts and above all else waste time. It doesn't want to learn, or discuss, it wants to have fallacious bullshit arguments where it seeks ways to reinforce it's already held beliefs.Fuck all glazers.
>>738443563>Just shoot the hive guard if your sentry engages it.stop playing on difficulty 5
>>738452030
>>738467868If they're needed and essential to deal with the bullshit patched in, add them to the base warbond. There's no excuse here.Giving a new player the equivalent of 20 bucks of currency and putting thrm infront of a 120€ wall of DLC isn't good onboarding. The token is only for people who bought the super edition btw, the currency from the base warbond isn't enough to buy both.
>>738468062That dude is in most HD2 threads 24/7 always doing the same shit, dedicated spergs need to be taken to the shed
How do you stand playing this game for so long? I got to 140 hours of doing the same things over and over again before I moved onto something else
Chinkrats should be excluded from review scores on steam games by default, not an opt-in featureCheating is not only expected but a positive over there so they're not worth listening to. Ever.
>>738468019>>738468062>I must reply to a random anonymous on the internet with immature deflections and dodges because I am immature>I must use buzzwords and insults as replies instead of answering questions or redirecting to a post with the answer>I must say nigger, glazer, faggot and all epic slurs to show dominance and prove I am such an oldfag and totally fit in:)
>>738468249Don't care. End your life. Kill yourself.
Acting like D10 is hard in any capacity is a borderline skill issue on your part. Though with how the community is filled with Shitters I'm not surprised at all but hey they're useful retards to get AH to work harder to make the stuff I already use that was already good even better
>>738468067Anon, i play exclusively on d10. He is right, you are a shitter.
>>738468201They're all lefties that browse shitholes like bluesky, reddit, twitter, and have discord servers they congregate together in. Back when Baskinator made her "ban all fascists" comments, the Steam Community board was lit up with IRL political off topic shit. All the same glazers that still infest the place to this day were taking the left wing side back then. Glazers are synonymous with your typical shitlib commie faggot. That's why they use the exact same "debate" tactics. It's all irrelevant time-wasting bullshit meant to exhaust you and get you to say something they can report you for.
>>738468209I have 144 and only play it every actual major order. Took a long ass break, came back for Super Earth stuff. Then took another break, came back for Cyberstan. Ill just wait till the next real shit patch and enjoy another 20 hours and dip again. I can only imagine the people actually complaining are people who have 500-1000 hours if not more and it needs to be the forever game they always wanted.Which to be fair, if not for this jank engine I think this could happen eventually. Its just built on the shittiest foundation that they will never fix.
>>738468271>I must reply to a random anonymous on the internet with immature deflections and dodges because I am immature>I must say "I don't care" to hide the fact that I actually care so much that I just can't possibly let it slide
>>738468389Kill yourself. That's the only reply you will get. I'm not reading your shit btw. It's a simple kill yourself from here on.
>>738467647>voicing critiqueNothing wrong with criticizing a shit company. The problem is you bought their bullshit game anyway. This should have flopped purely from the always online bullshit, but the modern consoomer is a retarded faggot to a degree nobody expected even a decade ago. Forced, unnecessary always online DRM fucked Diablo 3, some gay sims game, and then the Xboner. But now people are so used to eating shit and unable to see through marketing that HD2 probably gave an excuse to the next ten to fifteen years of "live service" slop games.
>>738468209Using different set ups and loadouts are fun solo, With Friends or random pubs, the games fun for what I want to do and I don't take it seriously so I don't get burnet out
>>738468480I can buy whatever I want. I don't share your sentiment on always online and the game was fun and looked like it was going into the right direction at release.
>>738468286hes technically right, but its extremely disingenuous but thats exactly what nerftrannies are. sure you kill the one hive guard but what about the other 5-7? oh and the hunters, alpha commanders spawning MORE hive guards, the bile titan/charger, maybe the 5-8 bile spewers also. all the while your turret just shot the next hive guard. You faggots always show shit in a vacuum instead of a real situation that happens
>>738468456How many times have you said something along the lines of last reply or "I'm not talking to you"?Actually amusing, like talking to an AI chatbot
>>738440075But they lost a bunch of land in 1944, has this guy not heard about operation Ichi-Go?
>>738468180>If they're needed and essential to deal with the bullshit patched in, add them to the base warbond.They are not needed but with them you make those factions a joke even on d10. All you actually need to play the game is in the base warbond. Sometimes when i get bored from completely stomping the enemies i go for the base gear and stratagems. They are all you need even on d10. The game is not hard. People are just bad at playing it. You literally get one of the best support weapons as a starting stratagem.>you get the flamethrower at lvl 10>you get the guard dog at lvl 10>you get the quazar at lvl 18>you get shield backpack at lvl 20
>>738468597Cancer cell detected, please step into the sun and die of radiation poisoning. People like you are why we can't have nice things.
>>738468640Kill yourself.
>>738468830Keep seethingto think all of your minutes worth of attention could've been avoided with a simple genuine answer
>>738468640All you have done was prove that original anon's assertion of you that you are just here to waste time. Your question was answered. Move onto your next point, or fuck off.
This game probably has one of the worst YouTube results I've ever seen for a game for something this decent it's just so ass to look at when trying to look at new Warbond stuff
>>738439698I can't get fascism in general. I wouldn't trust any power structure even if I was the in-group. As least progressives, outside of their wealthy co-opters, base their whole ideology around giving everyone a chance to live and be happy.Like if America truly went full confederacy and everyone who wasn't a white christian was killed or ejected, nothing would actually get better. All cities would just become Bumfuck XL, Texas. We'd eventually start killing each other over simply what fucking town or county we're from or slight differences in our interpretation of the Bible while the employers and ruling class would abuse us and that dogma on a level that would make what already happens now look like baby shit. It's all ultimately bait to manipulate a group of bitter forsaken souls who were already hoping the world would explode and had just been seeking desperate refuge up til then in trying to be around people that looked and sounded like them.
>>738468792>>738468830
>>738468609In a real situation i don't bring that turret against bugs but bring it against squids since that is where the machinegun sentries really shine. Against bugs i bring autocannon and rocket sentries if i really have to but in all honesty i prefer a mech, orbital gas or gas mines over turrets since i am always with the gas armor when doing bug missions.
>>738468062bro its the same retards that spam shit in the /vg/ thread. that thread one be one of the worst threads on the board if it wasnt for legit schizos in other (mostly gacha) threads
>>738468990I disagree.
>>738468885Nope, I asked about what was implied with "pvp ideas", only to get barraged with complete edgelord niggerbabble and deflections as someone "unworthy to debate"
>>738468830You first shitter. If you're bad a videogames go watch TV. No skill involved there.
>>738467868Is chemical relevant now? no one gave a shit about it after a week since gas was meh, stim pistol is niche as hell for taking up a secondary, and i heard stuff about gas being "fixed" to fuck over players despite wearing gas resist (or was it acid?). I know about spore burst but i've seen people use the flame guard dog and i've been using gas mines to handle breaches.
>>738469031Oh I know. That's why I don't answer questions anymore. If someone isn't already up to speed on the HD2 issues, then I consider that person a glazer troll and disengage. They always try to start by acting innocent and out of the loop. It always ends exactly as it has in this thread; shitposting and derailment.
>>738462405>still no loadout slots Just this alone is enough desu. The whole stratagem system is a tacked on gimmick made from anti-QoL features.
>>738439386What's this about? I've skimmed through comments in the thread and gotten a rough idea about angry Chinese review bombers.On a separate note lately I've realized that China's acceptance into the western games industry has been somewhat of a trojan horse for the CCP. Underneath all of these games they're making which all seem quite innocuous at face value conceals the hidden truth. The true evil. That they're trying to get their propaganda into everyones heads.Although few people are actually aware of the insidious things going on in Chinese games and very few willing to speak up on it. This is also why i will never touch a Chinese game no matter how good they make them look. I was expecting to find stuff like what I've displayed in pic related eventually. Inevitable because that's how the mind virus works and equally how people living under a totalitarian are given orders to create. Agitation propaganda for their overlords to keep them in power.
>>738469219>living under a totalitariansociety*typo
>>738467513>Last reply for you, faggot.Why do you lie?
>>738464040>The new terminid strain catches people offguard as the bugs are actually so fast now their animations are glitching I thought this was a bug until someone told me that the spores make them faster. I was so fucking confused
>>738469632My teammates with flamethrowers must have been so mad that I was just machinegunning everything and speeding them all up
>>738448596ThisKick the commies out of china
>>738469116Chemical was always relevant since you can walk trough your own orbital gas/ gas grenades and gas minefields. Now its even more relevant because they buffed the sterlizer.
>>738468990>As least progressives, outside of their wealthy co-opters, base their whole ideology around giving everyone a chance to live and be happy.Lmao. Progressives are closer to fascist than any IRL right wingers (the wehraboo larpers online are mostly retarded). Look at the state of Britain to see what fascism actually brings with it. You're right that it's terrible, but you're deluded if you think leftists aren't fascist. >if America truly went full confederacy and everyone who wasn't a white christian was killed or ejected, nothing would actually get betterNow this is just copium. I don't believe in blanket racism or want a strict ethnostate either, but pragmatic reality should dictate action over pure "muh feels" bullshit, and the reality is that certain demographics are negative contributors to our society, and hostile foreign cultures don't want to assimilate and share BASIC societal values with us. Outside of the inner cities, we have similar crime rates to Belgium. Inside shithole cities and high "specific demographic" areas, it's closer to Iraq. That's not something we should have to put up with. Is it possible to erase conflict from a society, no. But not all conflict is equivalent in scale or intensity. States with monocultures have less conflict inherently. The US has tried having a civic culture rather than an ethnic culture, and it IS superior when it functions, but it also requires assimilation to that civic culture. Groups that are hostile to our civic culture are a problem that needs to be solved.
>>738471139COVID showed everyone where the real lines lay. All that "for the greater good" shit came from the left and is the exact same shit fascism does. Irrational "because we say so" enforcement of individual liberties against some nebulous threat that is both ever present, but nobody can ever personally experience the real impact of. But we all gotta be extra diligent, obedient, and above all else snitching on everyone who doesn't comply!
>>738439698Satire? None found in this game man. Helldivers represents the endless war and lies of international democracy quite well.
>>738439698>bro just one more time, fascism is gonna work this time for sure!
>>738471642HD2 isn't a satire anyway. It's a parody. Retards really need to learn the difference.
>>738471642"Managed Democracy" is a very honest name really. All democracies are very carefully managed by those with the actual power lol
>>738471672As long as normalfags seethe when I ask them: Satire? How?
>>738447181Their censorship is approaching british levels of dystopian. Just include skeletons if your game and the chinks can't have it.
I dunno I am still having fun. Seems like the community is at eternal war with each other. I have my gripes sure. I may not always win d10 solo bots, but when I do it feels good. Sometimes I just get raped by 10 striders. It is what it is
>>738472876Glazer faggot.
>>738466805>get annoyed by kid asking for chicken nuggets without bugs in them>kill his dog out of spite because he is having too much fun playing with itgreat comparison to the dev behavior
>>738472876Don't play solo. Even playing with randoms is more fun as you are waving the flag of democracy as the turrets are mowind down waves of voteless. Solo is fun only one or two times.
>>738469116>Is chemical relevant now>literally everyone is using gas grenades vs sporebugsI wonder.
>>738440017The entire point was to nerf MG and gat sentry. They were both OP as fuck. It didn't make them worthless though. They work on bots with heavy devastators, they work in spite of chargers. They just became less brain off play the game for you for a week.
>>738473564Too hard for you? Stay in D6. Simple as.
>>738474262Kill yourself, you bootlicking corpo shill.
>>738469826They wouldn't notice because just killing them kills them. Dumbass. The only annoyance is having to carry eats for the bile spam since it's the only enemy with enough hp to live longer than 1.5 seconds
>>738474375Keep crying bitter bitch tears.It won’t make you any less of a shitter.
>>738474397Killing things kills them. Bugs die when they are killed.
>>738468990rightoids are fine with being slaves as long as they believe the people they don't like are suffering more every Nazi retard thinks they'll be Johnny Rico, not the 100k dead in the first hour on Klendathu
>>738474443Reddit awaits, you worthless dicksucker.
>>738473925I was only seeing napalm grenades when i played 6 missions, didnt see any gas users
>>738474518>so bad at the game even redditors dab on himkek!!!!
>>738474494Shut the fuck up, retard. That's your side. Stop projecting your own bullshit until others, you moronic, empathy-less trash bag of a human-shaped collection of cells.
>>738439386You're telling me this pot head PVE friend slop game didn't already have negative reviews? Now that's a surprise to everyone.
I will just leave this here
>>738474136>The entire point was to nerf MG and gat sentry.Who even uses those on bugs? On bugs you should be using AC and rocket sentry since they can kill bile titans. Even the laz sentry is better if you sit next to it and group on targets.
>>738474594kekarooo the glazer is an election tourist too!!! xDD
>>738474535My teams on sporebugs have all been super heavy on gas but yeah there is some napalm from time to time. Mostly the orbital napalm barage.
>>738474686I voted for Hillary
>>738474815I believe it, Glazer.
>>738469219>>738469345it's not chinese this time, it's westerners.Yeah somehow Arrowhead engineered a chinese style audience to their game without any chinese people involved.
>>738469219A DISASTEROUS dev AMA that basically confirmed every suspicion the community had about the devs and the future of the game. All they care about is future warbonds AKA monetizable content which they outsource, all other content like galactic war content, more weapon customization, etc. are entirely sidelined because they don't directly make them money. And the dev was a smug, dismissive asshole that literally pulled the "oh you sweet summer child" card whenever people asked for arrowhead to actually do any work.
>>738475132This. I think the AMA stirred up a large chunk of the resentment this time around. People would've been mad about mechs in the warbond, but after the AMA, people were ready to find all the negatives while ignoring all positives. Not like there were many positives, though...
>>738475132yeah how dare these evil developers be financially compensated for their hard work
>>738475238>>738475132also when people talked back after hand the CEO was in the discord telling people to touch grass
>>738475323Fuck off, glazer faggot.
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>>738475405Pissing people off is all Shams, Baskinator, and Pilestedt know how to do. Plus those two faggots that always do the patch update videos.
>>738475323>a live service game is a game where you just release paid dlc and ignore the rest of your game entirely
>>738475405basedlove seeing whiney plebbitors get dabbed on
>>738475323You already made more than several dev lifetimes, Arrowhead. You aren't just barely keeping the lights on.
>>738475323>Arrowhead>hard workAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!You know why the wiki often has these cool custom CGs for enemies? BECAUSE THEY ARE POSTED BY THE ORIGINAL ARTIST ARROWHEAD COMMISSIONED THEM FROM. They don't make the models, they don't make the technical patches, they don't do anything but bare minimum rent extraction.
Arrowhead haven't done the best with their custodianship of the game, I feel like new content is too slow to come out, the game came out in early access in all but name, and lack of care with balancing can make the game's difficulty feel rather erratic. That said that's not why I stopped playing. This is a community driven game and the game's community is cancer, case in point this thread. I said back during the sony account requirement fiasco that if the devs caved in to the community chimpout that it would be setting an awful precedent. Since then every time there's been any displeasure whatsoever amongst the community, usually centred around some broken crutch weapon being nerfed slightly, the response every single time has been a giant temper tantrum and reviewbombing campaign and the devs have been walking on eggshells ever since launch. Considering that they're a relatively small team working with an engine with no official support and that they've got an army of screeching toddlers constantly screaming in their ears over Discord I think they've done better than expected, I certainly wouldn't want their job.
>>738475323I know right? Gamers are really fucking entitled and it's getting to a point where I just don't want to engage with the community anymore. Do people on /v/ really expect game developers to put out a game and only charge the price of admission for it? If anything the game should TWICE as expensive, and the minimum price of a AAA game should be at least $100.Devs NEED more money, they need more income. They deserve to have every penny in yours and my bank account.
The balance is notoriously bad, arrowhead are really autistic over cracking down on the meta
>>738440017It sounds like you are describing an evolving enemy that is adapting to Helldiver weaponry.
>pve game>nerf the playerswho tf is complaining about balance in the forums? bugs?
>>738476228This game has at least one very dedicated sperg, you can see his posts throughout the thread. He will gladly die for them
>>738476228Sometimes you need to nerf the players, but this dev team has an obsessive need to nerf any strategy that becomes common as long as that strategy isn't explosive weapons.
>>738455936lowering the difficulty causes massive ego losses
The problem with Helldivers II are the developers, they legitimately want their game to be comically difficult but the community are able to consistently circumvent this by using meta builds and speedrunning entire missions without ever so much as looking back to kill anything, and in turn they nerf metas which causes a few players to get annoyed and write entire posts on why the game is designed badly.
>>738441883based and truepilled if you play a game on high difficulty it should be hard and there should be risk of losing.
>>738476765Correctionthey want high difficulty to be comically difficult because it's too easy to solo
>>738476516Yeah, there are times when nerfing stuff in PVE games can be a necessity, like if there's one item that is so utterly busted that you can beat the entire game blindfolded, deafened, and only using a DDR pad.But these devs oftentimes go way beyond that, nerfing anything that breaks their predefined meta.
>>738451942I would prefer the game didnt crash half the time over a new warbond.
>>738451942>Destiny 2 is the low point of how things can be, so unless it reaches that you're not allowed to be critical of the game at all!
>>738477294When the slugger was powerful and they basically said "This shotgun is making all the sniper rifles look bad, so we're making it worse" instead of making the rifles useful was the first giant red flag that they simply did not understand how to balance a game. The slugger is still shit by the way, since they made it have no range but didn't give it the damage back.
>>738476765>>738477216"Comically" difficult means adding bulletsponge enemies that can instakill you through walls with the highest armor rating btw
It's more of straw the broke the camel back this time.
>>738477216You're wrong. Have you not played one of their older games? They've always made games that prioritize funny wacky fails like someone accidently casting a meteor spell on you in Magika over a serious challenge. Helldivers II just clashes with itself regularly because the game does have those qualities that make it challenging but its consistently squandered by their own designers because the designers are still attached to their old design philosophy. Realistically, its not a hard game if you run a meta loadout and just speedrun a map but its more so that you cant use 90% of the strategems because they're useless or designed for tier 1-5.
>>738477546>"Dude, you think getting served shit on a plate is bad? You don't know what bad even is! I got served a bowl of shit, and they spat on it! That's way worse!"These arguments are so fucking retarded.
>>738477712They're doing this on purpose, leaving post-launch bugs that make the game harder or stealth buffing enemies is just them rage baiting and spiting the community. Its a good game, but its just the devs being incredibly petty while also being enabled by their reddit community
>>738440187grinding sc its free
>>738476765>Players want guns to be punchy and feel reasonably powerful>Arrowhead wants guns to be treated as a backup option when your airstrikes and orbitals are on cooldownI can see where both sides are coming from but ultimately if like 3/4ths of the guns feel like fucking shit to use and nobody picks them that’s a real problem. You can have muh grunt fantasy without making everyone run around with squirt guns and tanks made of wet paper.Shupo sexo.
>>738441883Deep rock galactic is piss easy and still very popular
>>738442687funny chinese hackers are turning this shitboxes into armored cores
>>738478582>ultimately if like 3/4ths of the guns feel like fucking shit to use and nobody picks them that’s a real problemThey know, but they also want to sell you new shit, so obviously the old stuff is going to be left as "leftovers"It's basic progression philosophyMost weapons can be considered as filler, or your average "early game" weapon, until you learn the best ones and want to spend/grind for themThat is quite literally what they want from it.If you could just pick the liberator AR and be content with it, they'd make no money or get any grinders, and that's not good in Snoy's book
>>738441883Isn't this because super credits spawn more frequently on higher diffs?People are mad that they can't farm super creds as efficiently anymore?
They can take a lesson or two from warframe
Arrowhead are really shitty devs but the outrage against them isn't remotely proportional to how bad they are. It feels like people are just addicted to outrage and looking for things to whine about. Me and my boys can clear difficulty ten with like an 80% success rate even when fucking around or just using whatever random meme equipment and strategems jump out at us at the time, and I really don't consider us that good, we even teamkill each other by mistake pretty often. If you bother to have TEN different difficulty settings, then difficulty 10 should be a nightmarish hellscape that's only clearable by a super elite team with excellent communication. Saying you regularly play on dif 10 should make people look at you funny. The game is not too hard.
>>738479032super sheckles have a lower spawn rate on higher difficulties because majority of the map gets taken up by enemy bases and objectives instead of lootable PoI’s>doesn’t play the game award
>>738479032Other way around. Super credits spawn most often at the lower levels because higher levels add fucking *samples* to the loot pool. The only thing higher levels give you is super sample,s which you run out of use for very quickly.
>>738479125A lot of critique is not about the difficulty
>>738479125nobody is saying the game is too hard you retarded frogposter
>>738439386>tranny fortress fans don't have the balls to do this
>>738479032>Isn't this because super credits spawn more frequently on higher diffs????? Higher diffs rarely spawn super credits at all on some missions it's literally impossible to have any super credits spawn. Maybe like 10 or 20 SC every 4 missions or so if you spend 40m walking to every PoI on the map. The only way to farm SC is loading into the easiest most trivial difficulty in the game, driving between 5 PoI's and then esc -> return to ship. They even halved the super credits you get per pickup from 20 to 10 and some missions have reduced PoI spawns. It's even slower if you don't own the teleport pack to tp into 2 player bunkers. Hence everyone is using cheats to spawn SC in right now and instead of fixing this retarded system and make them appear regulary on normal missions they're working in replacing their anticheat with EAC.
>>738474684Literally everyone. Gatling was the 3rd most used strategem, MG was the 5th. The other in the top 5 are 500kg, orbital laser, and orbital napalm.
>>738479186>The only thing higher levels give you is super sample,s which you run out of use for very quickly.Let's not forget they haven't added a single new use for samples (any samples) in 2 years.
>>738479532It’s on the list.
>>738479472So they tried to change the hive guards to be even weaker against fire, gas and explosives (the top picks as confirmed by you) against bugs?
>>738479227they're saying most of the weapons aren't viable, they're wrong. I keep seeing the fucking spear mentioned, I LOVE the spear, put a supply drop down next to you and you can wipe all of the fabricators out of an automaton base from a quarter mile away on a foggy day. That's excellent. The only weapons I can think of that are actually useless are the meme ceremonial and melee ones and some of the pistols.
>>738439698I don't want ethnofascism but I do want ethnonationalist social democracy.
>>738479032No, they are mad because devs won't just give vehicles for free and they won't "balance" correctly.That's literally itPeople here may say stuff about the game needing to fix old bugs, but if you look at the average youtuber/redditor/steam-reviewer's whine&cheese, it's 90% of the time going to be "muh trust in the company is in shambles because I didn't get free mechs! muh weapons need to be balanced because everything sucks compared to my literal pocket nuke!"and of course the sentiment that>please stop releasing warbonds and fix the game!and as soon as they stop releasing warbonds, everyone scatters and nobody plays the game lolIt's extra funny when the youtubers are saying this because the same people are literally paid to be content creators for the game, imagine that.They are literally asking for "less content" which means they have less to talk about which means less money for them.They are not very bright, but some of them are using this chance to monetize bitching about the game's state.Imagine being arrowhead rep who contractually has to pay people to shit talk their game
>>738479041>Take a lesson from warfarmThat game's entire management team should have been made to face the wall a decade ago. I do not care how much faggots say they've turned around. Freemium shitscape where the devs hate the players and see them as cattle is a fucking gay business model.And everything I've seen about the "story" they've added is fucking cringe and terrible.
>>738479472Gatling firing from the hip into a huge swarm of bugs and surviving is very fun. Recent rupture stain buffs however made this not very good
Why doesn't steam just make it so chinks aren't allowed to leave reviews?
>>738479465>replacing their anticheatThe only thing I've ever heard of them doing correctly, gameguard is fucking CANCER.
>>738452683It's true though
>>738439698This
>>738467386Good morning saar!
>>738479164I never played the game that's why I'm asking
>>738479747They're not removing anticheat, they're adding EAC. Read.
>>738479603The change to Hive Guards is completely irrelevant to the Napalm, Laser, and 500kg. All 3 kill what they kill with the same effectiveness either way. Besides, with limited uses and/or long cooldowns, or the 500kg which is honestly just in a weird place, they don't break the game nearly as much as a sentry that's up almost all the time and clears stuff you didn't even know was there.
>>738479032Super Credit spawns drop off a cliff once you hit D4, as that's when they start to add samples to the spawn pool. The chances of getting SC in POIs decreases even more as the difficulty rises, as rare samples get added to the pool, the total amount of samples per map rises, and more and more of the POIs are replaced with enemy bases.Once you get to D9 and D10, SC drops become an extreme rarity as the few available POIs that can roll SC gets diluted down from the overabundance of common and rare sample spawns.The only way this can be fixed is if Arrowhead detaches POI sample rolls from total map samples AND scales SC roll chance at high difficulties
>>738479608I dont think its an agument about viability its an argument about most weapons having another weapon in their niche that vastly outclasses them in every way. if you can wipe the floor with a SPEAR you can absolutelt wipenit with a RR
>Play on a lower difficulty>The enemy amount is tiny>The enemy variety is nonexistent>Objectives are "Put the square in the square hole" tier>Game is boring as fuck>Play on a higher difficulty>Enemy amount is great>Enemy variety is great>Objectives are better but still ass>Arrowhead makes 90% of the weapons shit
>>738479986Every mission at every difficulty level contains the same number of Super Credits on average. As difficulty increases, the density of SCs decreases because the map size gets bigger and there are more POIs sharing the same number of credits.It's a really shitty system that rewards the most boring ways to play while effectively punishing the most fun. Perverse incentives like that need to be crushed with extreme prejudice and I've been saying it since the very early days of Helldivers.
>>738479645I'm sure Arrowhead will double your pay any post now.
>>738479936I said replacing, not removing, and so did the post I replied to. You're the illiterate nigger here. EAC is nowhere near the levels of "kills harddrives" and "oh we lied about it uninstalling with the game" malware that gameguard is.
>>738480195not only is this completely fucking wrong multiple other anons already answered this correctly
>>738479897In general, yes. Higher difficulties are inefficient for sc because anything past diff 3 (or 2) starts spawning rare samples so they start hogging the spawn pool when you open a poi crate or pod.
>>738480051D10 is still way too easy. Public lobbies with 0 communication and negative teamwork complete it at a 90% win rate. That shouldn't be possible. High diff should be highly difficult. Only absolute pros or coordinated teams should be able to clear it.I can definitely see your point about mid difficulties just being too boring. That's something that's rarely brought up but it needs to be worked on. I think the Hive Guard change indirectly but deliberately nerfing sentries probably helped there though (for as long as it was live). A single MG sentry on D6-7 bugs basically turns off the enemies for 60 seconds, and then the cooldown is ready to go again.
>>738480195>Every mission at every difficulty level contains the same number of Super Credits on average. As difficulty increases, the density of SCs decreases because the map size gets bigger and there are more POIs sharing the same number of credits.Wrong, higher difficulty POIs have higher chances of containing weapons. It's why people are farming on D1 on fiery desert planets.
>>738480313It's not wrong. It's a topic that has been researched thoroughly. If you 100% clear maps, you will average the same number of SCs from difficulties up to about 5, after that the data gets spottier. 100% clearing a map is WAY more time consuming for every difficulty level though.Yes, there are POIs with samples that look like they would normally be a chance to have SCs on D4+. But there are also more POIs. It averages out to be the same number of SCs. When playing the game normally though, you are VERY unlikely to actually visit all the POIs so even if there are the same 2-3 piles per mission on average, you probably wont find even 1.
>>738479651>Freemium shitscape where the devs hate the players and see them as cattleBut that is arrowhead to a t, warframe devs are honestly one of the better devs around.
>>738480596On a POI by POI basis that's correct. The thing you are missing is that higher difficulty missions have larger maps with more POIs. If you were to visit ALL of them, you'd find about the same number of SCs (which is around 2 piles)You still are better off farming trivial which is exactly the point I made. But the reason isn't because Trivial has more SCs, it's because finding all the SCs it has is much much faster.
>>738480780I'm not defending arrowhead either you illiterate. Pretending warfarm is better is a clown show. That game is more pay2win, grindy, we hate you cattle shit. Anyone simping for freemium slop is a retard.
>>738480282EAC is just as bad with more HWID tracking on top. Kill yourself.
>>738480780Not really, DE just realized that consumerist cattle will pay as long as you glue a pair of asscheeks to it, no matter the price.>but muh free platYou're getting that "free plat" from people with poor financial control that DE is heavily exploiting. The same kinds of people that gachas exploit.
>>738480739>its been researched thoroughly>so thoroughly, in fact, that we only have data for half the difficulties>and are ignoring the fact that outside dif 5 the number and size of enemy bases increases along with side objective topping it off with the megabase on d10 that takes up 25% of the map>all area that POIs could spawn inyou are a retard. Ive run the LIDAR on D10 maps that have literally 2 POIs on them because the rest of the map is taken up by bullshit. there are consistently less POIs on d10 because if less area they can spawn, and SC is not “evenly” distributed, it is highly likely to just be a random % chance on each applicable POI spawn because that would make way more sense from a game design standpoint
>>738480893>The thing you are missing is that higher difficulty missions have larger maps with more POIs.POIs are dependent on the maps, not difficulties. Higher level missions can actually override POI spawns.
>>738441883I like how this post and those like it set off the casualniggers like nothing else when the devs have outright said that this is the case.They are trying to cater to an extremely loud diaper wearing audience that wants 100% clear rates of the hardest difficulty while having a chill relaxing no death, no enemy experience.
>>738479975The changes to the hive guard made off-meta bug weapons (medpen) less effective and buffed already strong meta picks like gas, fire, explosives.All 3 were made even better choices by the armor changes against an enemy they were already top picks again.
>>738481049I spend like 20 euros on them after 2 years, never felt scummy or exploited. Had 90% of the weapons and all warframes out there
>>738439698same
