>wireless
Enjoy your high latency and worse DPI

>>738441704
Yeah, a wire.

I'm well and truly fucked, yes. I have a 17 button mouse and I'm autistic enough to use all of the buttons efficiently. The problem is the build quality fucking SUUUUUCKS SHIT and they keep breaking. I started replacing the failing mouse wheel, yes the entire wheel doesn't work, with one of the side buttons. I love oval-shaped mice like that, so I'm trapped using the shitty Corsair Scimitar because I don't want something that looks like a space-ship. Taking recs.

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When are they finally releasing vertical mice with actual good sensors that don't cost an arm and a leg? I eventually caved in and bought pic related because it's either this or splurging $150 for the """""Razer""""" one.

>>738441704
>wireless

>>738443417
lmao just hold your mouse sideways save money :)

>>738442062
Logitech?

>>738443417
hows the m5 anon? my scroll wheel is going to shit and im debating whether i should just replace the scroll wheel or maybe try going vertical and m5 was one of the options

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>>738441704
I use the wired version of this mouse and I've had about 5 of them over the past 5 years I'd guess. It's the best mouse in countless ways
Logitech G203. No, I don't use claw grip and yes, I have large hands.

>mouse im using is only available in wireless version
>paid 65$ five years ago
>is now 160$
jfc what happened

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>>738443632
Prohibitively expensive for the big-buttoned fella.

>>738443737
>5 of them over the past 5 years
Meant to say 15 years. They are good quality and durable

>>738443679
Probably a 7/10. The plastic feels nice to the touch but is a bit too smooth, I had to buy a couple strips ot grip tape so I can lift it off the desk. Also I had another vertical mouse before that was a bit wider and that I preferred to hold, though it might be just what I was used to, for now the Keychron doesn't feel fantastic to hold, just "good", we'll see if it improves down the line. In any case, that other mouse had horrendous input lag, and this one is much better either wired on with the 2.4 receiver, haven't tried bluetooth either. Another note is that I have hands on the smaller side, at around 19cm long middle finger to wrist and 9cm across the palm.

>>738441704
Do not buy any new Logitech mice products besides the G502 series, they have a defective mouse wheel that they refuse to fix for some reason, it will break in a day.

i own g603 because i like bigger and heavier mice

>>738443679
NTA, but I've had mine for about 6 months and I love it. My first vertical mouse so there was an adjustment period for sure. Battery life is crazy and I've only had to charge it twice so far. The software is a little clunky at times, but once you find all the tuning you need its great.

>>738443769
for 500 dollars this thing better tell me its cheesed to meet me and take great anal.

>>738441704
>insert battery
no, fuck off

>>738441704
I will never buy another Logitech mouse again. They use fucking piece of shit switches that double click after a year. Guck that gay shit.

>>738445934
most wireless mouse nowaday came with charging dock instead of replacable battery anon

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>>738444057
Forgot to say that I put in aftermarket feet as well. You don't NEED to do this, the factory feet are already pretty good, but since I have a shitton of Tiger Gaming feet I got off Aliexpress a few years ago, I install them on every mice I own, and with these the M5 glides quite a lot smoother than with the factory ones.

>>738441869
>high latency
this isnt 2005 anymore, grandpa.

>>738445934
nothing wrong with battery insert
just buy good a quality rechargeable lithium ion AA battery

My wireless Viper sometimes loses signal for some fucking reason and I have to unplug and replug the dongle to make it work again.

>>738441704
Yeah, I need a wire

>>738443417
Nigger keychron M5 HAS a good sensor
It's pixart paw 3950 which was within margin of error of the best mice you could get

>>738441704
Lightspeed wireless*

*not actually lightspeed

>>738441704

What is the fucking point of a wireless mouse or keyboard. Totally stupid. You're just paying significantly more money and you have to constantly keep their batteries charged. WHY?

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you gwessed wrong, bucko!

>>738449803
>You're just paying significantly more money
No you're not, that's about $10 per device for wireless mode

>and you have to constantly keep their batteries charged
you're spending 100% of the time changing with wired shit
I spend less than 1% and I'm not even using it because I'm sleeping when it's charging

>>738449803
For mouse it's actually great, try using one.
Battery life depends on the model and on the polling rate. For me it's 2 weeks of using my PC 10 hours each day. Get cheap chink wireless mouse ~30€ is almost nothing.

>>738449496
>what is reading comprehension

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This is everything i want in a mouse but these MX fuckers keep breaking and lagging.
Still miss my G5, shit worked flawlessly for over 10 years.

>>738450158
you think $70 is an arm and a leg?
You do know that the razer shitware has a worse sensor and costs more right?

>>738441887
This

>>738441704
idk im not a manlet used to handling a tiny dick

i have hands appropriately sized for an actual human so that tiny device is beyond useless to me

my top mice ive used

>MX518 HERO Legendary (and original)
GOAT OF ALL GOATS FOREVER
(wheel is good but if it had a better mouse wheel it would be the goat of all goats forever and ever amen)

>Corsair Ironclaw (goat)

>G703 HERO
(FUCKING fantastic, good mx518 replacement but i had one randomly stop working, and USB MICRO IN 2019? WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING LOGITECH?!

>MX502x HERO fuckin great

razer fucking sucks i want to physically attack razer products when i see them in the wild

also ultralight mice are fucking gay and retarded 95-120g +/- is the sweet spot, I dnt give a fuck how good you are you will be better once you master a heavier mouse.

Guys, guys, look, i really want to fuck and cum inside a sexy/cute anthropomorphic mouse/rat and im not fucking joking im almost 50 my dick still works pretty good but will my dick still work long enough to experience full dive VR so i can do this before i die PLEASE GOD
PLEASE ELON PLEASE ILL TAKE CAT GIRLS IF ITS ALL YOU HAVE PLEASE

MOUSE EROTIC RAT EROTIC UOOOHHH

hi ririgaki

>>738450552
Anon you can get mice with the 3950 for half the price. I can go and buy hundreds of them right now, it doesn't change the fact that half of the price they ask is just for the vertical tax

>>738450967
The lowest I see is $46 for mystery meat chinesium alternatives
A Jackson and some pocket change for the shape is worth it and it's good enough considering no one else is pressuring them into competing

>>738441704
no really, but I like to have more.
I have a job, I don't need to live in poverty where I reduce everything to the bare minimum

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>>738443769
None whiter.

>>738449803
>playing fast paced fps with a wired mouse
No.

>>738441704
yeah. free scroll.

>>738443417
Did the chinks not make any of these yet?

How do you people keep breaking your mice? I've had the same dollar store mouse for almost 6 years now and it's never once failed me.

>>738445878
They used to be pretty cheap. They're out of production now.

>>738451584
Not with a good sensor, no. Even the supposed "gayman" vertical mice they make have kinda shit ones still.

>>738441869
I've used a wireless mouse since 2002 and been instagibbing noobs like you in ut for the same amount of time.

>>738449803
Holy fuck you are so goddamn retarded

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>>738451838
check again. pic related got released about 2 months ago

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>>738452071
>solakaka

>>738452071
Is this thing good? Looking around I see a lot of people that bought and returned it because of shit qc and comfort

the chinks are catching up at an insane speed
got a logitech pro wireless clone for 50 bucks and it's lighter and the sensor is better

>>738451584
that mouse *is* Chinese...

>>738450198
it's too heavy
i have like three MX masters and all of them stopped connecting to the unifying dongle. they only work through bluetooth now

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I just use this.

I don't need 8k polling, but something like 3k would be nice.

>>738451782
Damn, I mean I loved the intelliexplorer 3.0 but I'm not paying 500 for it. But then again I never get any cramp or issues using mice even though I really should be now, so it might be a different story if this was the only one I could use well.

>>738441887
spbp

>>738441704
>you need more?
No, I don't. I actually "downgraded" from the superlight, to the g305. I love that mouse.

I'm 34 years old and a PC gamer and never once thought to myself "Damn I wish my mouse didn't have a wire"

>>738456245
I was just like you, till I tried one.

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>>738441704
For me, it's Razer Cobra.

>>738456282
Did you then think "why would I ever pay extra for this? I did when I tried one before

>>738456245
>need low sense for a game
>but also need to be able to 180 quickly often
Doing this with a cable sucks. Just like with a high refresh rate monitor, it's unthinkable to go back to a cabled mouse.

>hall effect keyboard
>hall effect controller
>hall effect mouse
ICP ain't got shit on me.

>>738456530
Not really, anon. But the cable was annoying sometimes... especially when playing on low sens

>>738456925
good goy!

Goddamit I just want a mouse that:
doesn't have double click issues
doesn't have a wonky scroll wheel
doesn't die after a year.

I feel like I can only find a mouse that does two of those things.

>>738456975
Cables suck monkey dick and you know this.

>>738454753
how does that work? I can grasp the effect in an analog stick, but not on a mouse
do they add a weird spring limiter that does a fake clicky noise, like a damn pen? what if that part breaks?

>>738456940
anon, you're hallucinating urine, seek help

>>738441704
I need a mouse that doesn't run out of power. Never.

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>>738441869
>muh latency
cope
it's literally 0.4 ms range at the high end level, you would need a 2500hz monitor to perceive ONE FRAME of latency
if you bitch about wireless latency it means you understand nothing and chances are you have a shit mouse that with 3ms+ latency

>>738457186
biggest drawback of wireless right here, is there a mousepad that constantly recharges your wireless mouse? I can live with a wired mousepad

>>738441704
this used to be my favorite mouse until i had to buy 3 within a year because the mouse buttons would start to double click after a few months

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>>738441704
No. I need less

>>738441704
>wireless
>only 2 extra buttons
lol

>>738457332
I'm on my pc 16 hours a day and I charge the mouse for like 20 minutes every 10 days. Even less so if you use more battery saving settings. Charging is not an issue.

>>738449803
> WHY?
Because a fool and his money are soon parted.

>>738452050
All the fastest FPSes were played before wireless mice were even a consideration.
Dumb fucking normgroid.

>>738457793
>>738451390

>>738441704
Yes.

>>738441704
>wireless
go back to charging little faggot

>>738441704
I literally cant play a game without 12 buttons on the side of my mouse. I use most of those as keybinds because my left hand is retarded and can never get keys like T, Y, H, or C consistently so i put them on my mouse

>>738458206
>plug it in once a week before going to sleep
wow that was hard

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For men with actual men sized hands, my beloved ZOWIE EC1-CW is unreplaceable. Its super light so it still super viable for glass mousepads.

>>738458241
>once a week
your shit mouse won't last that long little faggot
enjoy your input lag

>>738453223
Based chink-shit enjoyer. I have max version because it has bigger battery.

>>738458343
>let me tell you how long your mouse lasts
why so upset?

>input lag
see >>738457321

>>738458490
because it's a fact nigger
go back to charging your shit wireless mouse and ejoy your fucking input lag

>>738458375
I bought the pro version because it's lighter (less battery) and according to multiple reviews the max version is more likely to have double click issues (different switches). I do know that there's the MAD R (from ATK too) or whatever it was called that literally costs the same and is way better but I live on a shithole so everything is randomly overpriced.

>>738458559
so what refresh rate is your monitor?

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>>738441704
a wizard is not complete without his orb

>>738456245
So am I and yet I had a fucking mouse bungie since 2010 because the mouse cable was causing way too much drag on my desk. Wireless was a godsend for me but it didn't get great until 2018

>>738458609
>MAD R
Twice as expensive, I got my R1 below 30€ shipped from Chinkland. So if it dies no big deal. I can also just solder different switches, no big deal.

I sit back in an armchair and use this mouse on the armrest. Wired chuds will never be this comfy

>>738441704
Does it have a 8000 Hz polling rate?

>>738458809
How weak are you?

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>>738459385
It's not about being weak it's about drag and consistency you dumbfuck

>>738459717
Its all about you being that a tiny ass wire affects you, unironic söy

>>738459803
t. either a thirdworlder or a fatfuck with a tittymousepad who only ever played hoi4 at 32000dpi

>>738459860
soi

I play with controller even though im on pc so the only thing i care about in my mice is that the click is silent. the sound of clicking gets annoying really fast

>>738441704
>playing a game
>wooops need to charge my mouse haha!
literally why would you cuck youtself like that
why is the cable such a big issue?

>>738441704
>dpi button
has anyone EVER used this for it's intended purpose? mine has two and i have them rebound to [ and ]

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>bad thing good because I got used to it instead of improving things

>>738454753
>>738459042
have you heard about optical switches?

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>>738458669
>no response
lmao, wirecuck is not willing to admit that he's worshipping wires out of voodoo because he's on 60hz shitbox
i mog you, wirecuck

>>738459986
Because of weak söyboys like >>738459717
in reality it's because they fell for marketing, this is no different than normalfags falling for shit like having AI in their microwaves and they find it impressive

Wiretards will say the wire is not a problem but complain about having to transform their wireless mice to wired for 30 minutes every two weeks.

>>738441869
>>738441887
>>738443440
>>738449445
>>738457637
>Uncs and contrarians still think wireless mice have any latency whatsoever
We're in 2026

the G stands for GOY
enjoy your double clicking

>>738441869
Modern mice are actually pretty good, I got to Faceit 10 with a logitech g903

>>738441704
I thought logitech having buttons that fail was a meme until literally every single button on my g305 including the wheel has failed in 3 years

>G305
Oh look, the worst piece of computer hardware I've ever owned. Started double clicking after seven months.

>>738459904
NTA.
You're a shitter at games.

>>738441869
As long as it has a dongle, if it's through Bluetooth then yeah it's going to be fucking ROUGH

>>738441704
Yes i need it in a cute and soft pink tone! :3

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G305 was lightweight, cheap and had a lasting battery (rechargeable aa), but it was also the fastest Logitech to start double clicking for me.

Wired G502 is too heavy, the extra buttons are in an awkward location and it collects grime on top of its surface way too fast.

MX Master 3 feels like a dream but lacks the extra buttons that I need for media.

I miss MX518 and G400s

>>738441887
i bought the usb wireles one for 80 pln ( like 20 $ *used shelf product, retail 400pln) fnatic mouse and it feel like same latency as wire, produced in 2023

>>738441869
modern wireless mice are good now, they just wear out too fast, which why i still keep the intellimice in the closet

>>738462505
lol they're never going to escape the double click allegations

>>738441704
not enough buttons

>>738459717
>that wrist compress
proving that dragging fucks up your hand once again

whats the point of wireless? im not taking my mouse to the store

>>738466265
No cable drag or cable weight.

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I actually like superlight
so I decide to buy chinese clone of superlight that is 1/3 the price and come with hotswap switch

>>738466414
ive never had an issue with either

>>738466490
Your personal experience doesn't matter. It would be like questioning why high level football players or runners use specialized lightweight shoes instead of normal $50 running shoes and saying "I never had any issues with my normal $50 running shoes".

>>738466697
Anon most pro players don't have wireless shit because it's not as reliable and more latency compared to wired. Only actual retards that fall for marketing tricks buy overpriced shit like that.

>>738466747
>Anon most pro players don't have wireless shit
Yes, they literally do. At this point literally like 80% of professional players across all games use wireless mice.

Check for yourself - https://prosettings.net/

>>738466747
Every pro is using wireless lolwut.

>>738466697
"professionals" dont matter. im sorry about your limp wrist

>>738466827
>posting an actual ad site
LMAO

>>738466958
>moving goalposts because he can't admit that he was wrong and stuck in 2015

>>738441704
Not endgame wired
ngmi

>>738466887
The objectively best e-sport player in the world (Notail) that has earned the most money used a wired mouse. And the second best (JerAx) also used a wired.
Want me to go on?

>>738441869
every wireless mouse is also wired, you senile incel

>>738467080
Dubious ranking also those are dota players.

>>738467080
>The objectively best e-sport player in the world (Notail) that has earned the most money used a wired mouse
N0tail earned all his money from like 2015 to 2020, and he played fucking DotA2. What an incredibly stupid example to put forth as your argument.

>>738467140
>>738467150
Yes the single most competitive e-sport as it has the highest pricepool. These are objectively the biggest pros to exist and they used wired mouse.
Which according to you no pros do.

>>738467226
For every professional player that uses a wired mouse, there's 8 or 9 other professional players that uses a wireless. Your argument is so piss poor that it doesn't make any sense.

>>738467272
No, the objectively BEST professional players in the world that has earned the most money uses wired mouse. Which means that it's better.
Don't you think the BEST players in the fucking world knows better than you?

>>738467348
See >>738467150

>>738467367
What is your argument here?

>>738460441
>He doesn't notice the latency
God you're slow.

My dream would be a g502 but with silent switches
Im autistic about noise

>>738467407
The argument is that your example is from fucking 5-10 years ago, back when wireless mice were more primitive, and it's a fucking MOBA player, not an FPS player. Stop being an obtuse retard.

>>738441704
a wire

>>738467524
Ok so when did wireless mice became good, because according to you they were really bad just a few years ago?

>>738467421
what's your monitor's refresh rate?

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Every time there's a mouse thread on /v/ I get nostalgic. Because from reading these posts everyone's brain seems to be stuck in 2016.

>>738467591
The G Pro Wireless came out late 2018 and that was considered the first moment where people slowly started trying out wireless mice in professional and highly ranked environments. The GPXS came out in 2020 and that's around the time where all pros started switching, and not long after the GPXS literally became the go-to mouse.

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>>738467730
Thanks Grok!

>>738467823
Why did you ask me then, if you already knew? Fucking bozo.

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>>738467656
Imagine showing them this thing.

>>738468034
The tech behind that mouse is very intriguing, but I'm not about to fucking pay $150 for a piece of shit Logitech mouse that's going to doubleclick after a year.

I hope it becomes standardized in other mice ASAP.

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>>738441704
I need a button right here
And a wire

>>738468197
why the fuck do you need a wire?

>>738468756
So my mouse doesn't die within a year, so I don't have to recharge it, more reliable, less latency and better overall?
Why the fuck would you need wireless?

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>>738453223
i have an exact one line this, except it's an EC-2 Clone.
i was surprised how good these things are, was half-expecting the scroll wheel to be shit, but it's actually nice

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>>738441704
yes, but not much more
>t. superlight + powerplay chad

Sometimes in life you just have to wait for uncs to die with their antiquated opinions as they cannot be fixed.

>>738468893
>So my mouse doesn't die within a year
This has nothing to do with a mouse being wired or wireless.
>more reliable
How does a wire make a mouse more reliable?
>less latency
There's ONE mouse that's the fastest that's wired and that's a $250 Zaukoenigg or whatever they are called. The next 20-30 mice with the lowest latency are all wireless.

>>738469095
You still haven't given me a single reason to pay extra to have a wireless mouse
>b-but I have weak hands so the wire is heavy :(
Not a problem for most people

I wouldn't want to pay extra 20 for a better mouse with my multi thousand eurodollar pc, you are right.

>>738469359
No cable drag and no cable weight. If you play FPS games at any decent level, you'd instantly know how freeing it is to not have a wire, hence why +80% of professional players across all video games have switched to wireless by now.

>>738469490
>No cable drag and no cable weight.
see >>738469359

>>738469359
wireless is cooler

>>738469359
>>738469531
Saying "it's not a problem for most people" is an asinine statement. It's like trying to make an appeal to how most people don't need more than 60hz, don't need more than $10 ear buds, don't need more than a $10 keyboard, etc. etc.

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No, I need less.

>>738469685
Anon you need to try harder to shill me into buying your overpriced gimmick shit. No, cables don't weight enough or affect the movement of my mouse at all for me to spend extra on your product.
You need to do a better job selling me it.

>>738469359
>single reason to pay extra
imagine being so fucking broke that you get mad over paying $10 more for wireless functionality

>>738469850
see >>738469774

>>738469774
>overpriced gimmick shit
You can literally get fucking chinkmice for $50 that use nearly the same innards as high tier mice that you'd pay $100-$150 for from shit like Logitech, Razer, etc.
>cables don't weight enough or affect the movement of my mouse at all for me to spend extra on your product
No one gives a fuck about your personal experience. If you are a shitty player who can't even fathom why you'd use a wireless mouse, then that's completely fine. There's no need for you to buy a wireless mouse in the first place, because you're not even at the skill level where you could benefit from it anyway.

>>738469919
>stop trying to sell me a toilet! i'm perfectly willing to shit in a wooden outhouse for the rest of my life

>>738469942
You still can't give me a single reason to buy a wireless mice over wired other than trying to convince me that I'm a weak limped söyboy like you, so a few extra grams of weight would affect me... which it doesn't.
Try and do a better job selling me your product, the "wires weight too much" shtick doesn't work.

>>738470042
Retard. I'm not trying to sell you one. I literally just told you to NOT buy one, because you are clearly so bad at video games that you wouldn't even benefit from it anyway. Save your money and just get a $10 mouse from Walmart.

>>738470156
Are you a pro gamer?

>>738470213
No, but I have played a couple of FPS games at a top 1% level, including one at a semi-pro level.

>>738470042
>you can't give me reasons because i've deluded myself so hard that i would find excuses to seethe about the invention of a fucking wheel

>>738442062
I have the older version Razer one with swappable side plates ("Naga" maybe) and if they really fixed the connection issues when swapping plates in newer models it would be a really good mouse. Really if you just use the MMO plate and never swapped you'd probably be fine with any of them too.

>>738470352
So why are you talking if you're not even good at video games? You are trying to shill me a mouse, you use when you suck at games?

fact is wireless feels better with no meaningful downsides and if you like wired then ok whatever you do you, you dumb niggers don't realize you're posting in a bait thread whenever anons start talking about latency and shit it's free (You)s every single time

>>738470894
Pathetic bait.

>>738468893
you do realise that you would need a 2500hz monitor for ONE FRAME of click latency between the best wired and wireless mice right? see >>738457321

>>738443769
these kinds of mice were really cheap 10 years ago when people still played MMO's, thats a reseller I think that mouse was like $80 - $100 bucks before

>>738471026
>DUDE you need to use a wireless mouse all the pros and good players are using it!
>n-no I'm not good at videogames w-what does that have to do with anything

>>738443679
Probably the best vertical mouse you can actually buy currently, only thing I'd change is a charging dock or puck of some kind.

>>738471090
See >>738471026

>>738442062
I got the same kind of mouse and many of the buttons are sticky and dont work very well anymore

Why does it make people so angry that some folks are not buying the same overpriced crap they did?

>>738471303
why are you so impoverished that you're screaming about $10 spread across at least two years?

>>738471303
No one is angry at that. You are angry that wireless mice exists and are objectively better but you can't afford them so you sperg out.

>>738471303
It is cope. That is why I stick to using my 1366x768 screen and ps/2 mouse and keyboard that came from an optiplex machine from a business that went under. Got all of that for so, so cheap.

>>738471401
If they are better, why are you shit at games?

>>738446370
even worse

>>738441704
I have this mouse it's fine. Being battery powered sucks but i don't care because every mouse with a cord is designed retardedly to fail. I use corded everything else though mouse is only thing i want wireless this mouse is completely fine and most important above all its cheap so when it inevitably shits out as all products are designed to do, it does not hurt as bad. Been abusing the same one for almost 4 years now

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I have an m720 and I love it, other than the low poll rate which I didn't notice until I got a high refresh monitor.
I bought another mouse but I didn't realize how much I would miss the free scroll wheel and sideways scrolling.

>>738471303
what's the refresh rate of your monitor?

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So, if I have a 120fps monitor and moving the camera in an FPS game doesn't feel smooth is that a poll rate issue or a DPI issue?

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I didn't even think they sell these anymore, but I like it.

>>738472516
it can be the cause but few mice have poll rates below 120hz unless you literally have a shit tier office mouse
i once swapped to 125hz poll rate without knowing and i thought my 500hz oled was fucked so it can have an effect
maybe you just need a more responsive monitor

>>738472669
>maybe you just need a more responsive monitor
I'm not talking about lag. If I use a controller and tilt the stick slowly then the camera moves super smooth like it should. But if I use the mouse it's like the camera only updates at ~60fps instead of the full 120.

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embrace the chink clones (that won't cost 100$+)

>>738441869
Not a problem for people without autism.

>>738443783
>>738443737
Tell me your secrets because the G203 lasts maybe 2 years at best for me and I'm on my third one.