Is the Bigscreen Beyond 2 and VR gaming in general worth it or is it still a meme?
>>738450157It's a fun meme if you don't mind spending the money
>>738450157yes
>>738450157VR is worth it, but do not expect gaming out of it except for few specific thingsBigscreen is not worth it at all, reports of lens glare, not sure where the eye tracking is at a year after release, ceo caught lying on the daily, shit facetrap and no integrated audio unless you pay extra, require to pay extra base stations and controllers if you don't have them from an index
>>738450157VR gaming is the best its ever been thanks to mods, almost every game now released can be played in VR.
>>738450157>90hzYike
>>738450157impossible.
>>738451647No it's 75hz for the full resolution :)
>>738451027>Bigscreen is not worth it at all, reports of lens glare, not sure where the eye tracking is at a year after release, ceo caught lying on the daily, shit facetrap and no integrated audio unless you pay extra, require to pay extra base stations and controllers if you don't have them from an indexSo what's the best vr headset
>>738453116depends what (you) want out of a vr headset
>>738453148I wouldn't know, I never owned/used one beforeI'd like to play Half Life Alyx but I dont think vr headsets are worth it just for one game
>>738453116>what's the best vr headsetMeganeX Superlight 8K , around $1600 last time I checked
>>738453116What do you like to play? The reverb G2 is usually considered a good all around workhorse, especially if you don't want to bother with basestations, I splurged for a pimax Chrystal light because I play a lot of sim games like DCS and msfs, so the extra sharpness helps me a lot with not having to press my face against the cockpit instruments to read them.That said, I wouldn't recommend VR games for the VR games themselves, they are all basically Wii era waglan showelware, with a few exceptions. My best VR experience from non sim games, is using VR injection into regular games, like ace combat 7
Can someone explain the difference between >Quest 2>Steam Frame>Beyond 2for a layman with a Quest 2?I have a Quest 2 that I use for porn and I feel like the Frame (at least) isn't a sizeable enough upgrade.
PSVR2 for PC is great if you're on a budget and dont mind wired, OLED screens at under $400 cant be matched
>>738450157something like a quest 3 might be worth it if you want to try it out. VR is genuinely absolutely amazing as a piece of technology, yet I've basically only played half life alyx. VR will have a slow growth into something more universal and widespread over time, but you might as well try it and enjoy it on the way there instead of just waiting.
>>738454419I've come to a conclusion.
>>738450157I can play the same games in quest3s
>>738454419Frame won't play youtube 8k vr videos (youtube only allows android clients and AV1 hardware), but quest3,3s plays it
>>738456116All of my porn is streamed through Stash + HereSphere through Steam.
>>738450157its a niche but i like it, unfortunately, due to shitty genetics i have to wear contact lenses or everything is blurry (first time trying it i thought my vr is faulty)
>>738450157Everybody I know that has had experience with the Bigscreen Beyond headsets has told me they are overpriced pieces of shit and not worth it.
>>738453302>I'd like to play Half Life Alyx but I dont think vr headsets are worth it just for one gameIf you are interested in games in general, unfortunately the best option is the quest 3 because that's where most games releases, you can also conenct it to a pc to play pcvr games like alyxIf you are not afraid of tinkering but still want to play quest games, pico 4 ultra is a better headset overall but you'll need to use this https://github.com/ovrport/app/ to port gamesIf you are interested by pc only with best screen possible (best if you are into simracing), you have the pimax crystal light as a good entry point, and eventually psvr2 + adapter if you want oled (but the headset do have issues). Anything above that is a money waster.Soon there should be new headsets releasing (steam frame and pico swan), tho they'll be more expensive than the options I listed.in my opinion best overall is pico 4 ultra, but waiting for steam frame or pico swan is likely a better plan at this point
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>>738458053I'm a gooner that needs to have a connection with the porn stars.
>>738457476Different guy but was thinking of getting a Quest 2, it's around 120 - 200€ used in my hoods, gonna just use it on pc for porn, Alyx and random games. But what you said was that new games come to Quest 3? What does that mean, not compatible?
>>738454517>fresnel lensesI would have agreed with you if it weren't for those shitty things that have an abysmally small sweetspot.
>>738455629And what's that
>>738459546I decided on Pico 4 Ultra vs. Steam Frame.Pico seems better, but Steam Frame seems like it COULD be better if they give me more information on improving the front-cameras with the modules they announced.
>>738459621those don't look very Pico to me if you catch my drift! *wink*
>>738450157There are games worth playing but it is drying up.
>>738450157Are there any good vr games?
>>738459969>it is drying up.It dried up 6 years ago, there hasn't been any significant release since Alyx, which was an average shooter with a few good ideas.
>>738458873Unfortunately, it’s really only the Bigscreen and the high end Pimax headsets that are oled with pancake lenses. Brightness is still an issue on most of those. I haven’t heard if it is with the Pimax Super oled, but that is also a $2200 hmd.
>>738460082Into the Radius 2 and Forefront came out like two weeks ago. There have been a good number of games worth playing, Alyx is just the only one that non-VR normalfaggots know about.
>>738460587Literally. If you see someone say that HL:A is the only worthwhile VR game, which is the worst of the mainline HL games, you know you can ignore their post.
I will now take recommendations.>>738460587>ForefrontI do not like it.>Into the RadiusIt looks bad.So far, my favourite game is Moss
>>738450157So far the best thing about VR is VAM with full colour pass through on Quest 3. Having an interactive hologram of any woman you want in any room of your house is pretty amazing.What else should I do with it? Where's the best site to find hq VR vids of hot japanese women without censor pixelation?
>>738461175What do you think of VAM 2?The thing I dislike about VAM is the lack of actual porn-stars.
>>738461291There are like ~500Gb of cunny mods for it. What else do you need?
>>738461378Actual porn stars, like AIKA
>>738460936>oh wow that looks goo->looks again>flat containers, fluid crates, sandbagswtf
>>738458124Thanks for the laugh, homie.
>>738460054the recent little nightmare vr is good
>>738460936Vertigo 2Boneworks/LabElite DangerousHitman (actually good now)Skyrim
>>738461596It's a Quest game. Everything's a Quest game. It's all dumbed down for mobileshit.That being said, Forefront did go back and implement dynamic lighting and shadowing on the PC version so now it looks way better. But every VR game basically is going to have pretty sparse geometric detail.
>>738458432some are not compatible yea, quest 2 also have worse optics but if it's your first hmd for 120 it's fine
Do vr goggles work with glasses?
>>738464801They all say they do but it's a crapshoot. Prescription lens inserts are the better way to go.
>>738464801oculus CV1, quest2/3s, psvr1,2 all work with glasses
>>738450157The weight and size is where I want it to be but specs wise it leaves more to be desired.I just use it to play star citizen every major update.
>>738450157VR is cool but I'd wait for the Steam Frame, it comes out in just 2 more weeks.
>>738465886steam frame literally has no games, and most studios who made games for quest/pico no longer exist to updgrade them to the frame
>>738467015I bought a VR headset specifically for PCVR, I'm not interested in the standalone VR stores on any headset brand. OP was asking about Bigscreen Beyond which is PCVR anyways.
>>738450157I own a quest 3 and think vr is a meme. It's fun for a bit, but there just aren't that many games. Also, I get pretty bad motion sickness, so there's that
>>738450157VR is only worth it for sims or VR Chat. Other than that it's a novelty.
>>738467236>I'm not interested in the standalone VR storesall games you will get are ports from stanalone to pc, nobody makes PC exclusives unless it's porn
>>738467912vr is for gaussian splat gooning
>Bigscreen beyond 2The only people getting these are people who'll fuck each other IRL while strapped up with full body tracking playing VRChat in their furry avatars.>>738461175>Where's the best site to find hq VR vids of hot japanese women Used to be eporner for hassle free 4K downloads but they finally got a proper login wall working and I'm not signing up for porn.>without censor pixelation?No clue on this one.
I don't wanna spend $500 on something that has a 60% chance of giving nausea and migraine everytime i use it
>>738450157If you want to spend money bigscreen isn't worth it because its antiquated and you have to buy expensive antiquated lighthouse hardware that's deteriorating, and we are entering the generation of everyone making ultra light headsets. We are also entering a global depression though. Everything is going to get more expensive.Theres more VR content than you have time for but quality is rare and you don't have a ton of choice in any one genreThere was never a good headset that was cheap and widely available when they had the chance. Valve should've shit out a cheap pico 4 clone years ago instead of an autistic premium one that's arriving years too late. Pico 4 being available in the US would've helped but its software still would be chinkshit.
>>738468979>spend $500 on something that has a 60% chance of giving nausea and migraine everytime i use itthat's some quality vodka
>>738454419Frame is an upgrade in every wayWeight and ergos, foveated streaming - fixed wireless video is trashing your image quality and causing stuttering more than you realize, pancake lenses with good binocular overlap that nobody talks about, decent sound that should be modable to index style sound later, TMR sticks so your controller isn't a paperweight timebomb, the dongle is hassle free compared to a router and much more portable, full deck of controller buttons for VR or stereo 3D conversions, eyetracking sounds important but I won't oversell it because we all know how potential doesn't pan out to reality sometimes.
>>738468979I held off on getting one for the same reasons but I tried it in person and had my VR legs in 15 minutes. I don't really get motion sickness so I was being overly cautious but you should definitely try it out without buying if you have concerns.
>>738467015>and most studios who made games for quest/pico no longer exist to updgrade them to the frameSo the studios don't exist after a short span of time and I'm supposed to believe the games were good and lost treasures
>>738461378Where do I find that
>Fixed wireless video is trashing your image quality and causing stuttering more than you realize.If I don't realize, how is that an upgrade?>The dongle is hassle free compared to a router.I have a router and it was hassle free.>Much more portable.Who uses VR on the go?>Full deck of controller buttonsWhy wouldn't I use a dedicated controller via bluetooth for that?
>>738470324You asked a question about two products and you got an answer. In response you're asking me follow up questions about yourself. I don't know anything about you. I don't even know the point of your post. You might as well ask my why you don't get an above ground pool. I don't know.
>>738461291I've not tried VAM 2 yet. Can anyone tell us what the major differences are? As for the pornstars, they're there but never called by their actual porn star names, so you just have to browse for ages to find any
>>738470709World is too cold for a pool
>>738470765I pirated VAM2 and it looks better, but that's about it. No hub for downloading shit or anything.>The porn stars are there.Let me look
>>738469879asguards wrath 2 was good
Is the steam frame standalone like the quest
>>738471224ye
>>738471224sadly yes
>>738468979That’s the vast amount of nausea causes solved. Just don’t get into a flight sim and start barrel rolling right away if you’re prone to motion sickness.
>>738471352what do you mean "sadly"?a full on dedicated thin client streaming SOC with no OS would have no marketable valuethey need the horde of retarded buying the thing to play slay the spire on a virtual screen to make money
>>738468979I had the exact same concerns 3 years ago when I found a pico 4 for 300 euros and I felt like the price was low enough I wouldn't feel so bad if I was one of the few unlucky ones with unfixeable motion sickness.Thankfully for me after a week of grinding vr games I was bhopping in hl2vr like nobody's business.
>>738471521>A weekDamn, I just can't do it. I get sick like crazy unless I teleport
>>738471521>pico 4Is that good? Seems to be the cheaper option out there
>>738471840Very first day I got my headset I played contractors and holy fuck I had a knot in my stomach during the entire sessions but somehow I didn't puke.The following week I played stuff like The Last Clockwinder, Wanderer, Alyx and teleport only games and I felt fine enough that I thought I could handle smooth locomotion just fine. Turns out if you stop just before the nausea sets in, recharge your headset and go at it again then it's fine? Like your brain gets used to it over time. Dunno how to explain it.I did read about people who genuinely just puke 30 seconds after putting the headset on and for those I don't think it's fixeable but what the hell do I know.
>>738472020It's alright but if you can find a pico 4 ultra for 400 or less then this one is worth it.The controllers on the base pico 4 are so heavy I would not recommend them.+ the ultra has a better wifi antenna so if you get a wifi 7 router then you get a stronger link to your PC
Waiting for the steam frame, wanted to get into VR for ages and considered getting a quest 3 or psvr2With the frame around the corner it doesn't seem worth doing anymore.That being said i'm not paying the same price for a full index kit, it was supposed to be cheaper.
I installed VaM.How does it work? Does it work with the Handy?
>>738471840Not him but I also acclimated to VR very quickly, I heard taking a break as soon as you start feeling sick is the thing to do.
>>738472386>How does it work?
it is now, an actual real game came out, and its Battlefield in VR.. Played 12 hours in 2 days, first time ever in VR
>>738472596soz picture relatedhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2981220/Forefront/
>>738472193I think it’s going to be $800-$850. They need to keep the price less than a 50% increase over the Quest 3. The $100 Q3 price increase likely helped Valve in their decision making on when to go to market.
>>738451057>VR gaming is the best its ever beenYeah, and it's still absolute fucking shit.
VR gaming is flourishing, great new stuff coming out all the time.But 4chan is full of depressed faggots so they will speak ill of anything so good luck getting a clear view here.
>>738474153What are the latest VR games that you enjoyed and thought were good?
This game was amazing. I'm kinda seething I can't play it on anything but the Quest 3.
>>738450157It will always be a memePeople don't like losing their senses of vision and hearing
>>738474634Does piracy not work for vr games
>>738450157don't buy a bigscreen 2 they buy off the reviewers, watch the bigscreen 1 review from anyone who reviewed it, they are saying its the best since sliced bread but in the beyond 2 review they list all the shortcomings of the first gen but none of the shortcomings of the second gen, people who know vr and didn't get bought off say its outdated, 75hz on full res, horrible fov, low binocular overlap, the worst ghosting on the market and low brightness, if all those shortcomings are a good trade of for the most lightweight headset ever™ be my guest otherwise stay far away.
>>738450157Is good but you will lost interest after a couple of months.
On one hand I want to try vr without breaking a bank on the other hand I have 0 desire to buy a second hand headset, I’m not keen on wearing something some other nigga was wearing while jerking off
>>738476152Some (most?) headsets have replaceable face gaskets. It's worth buying a leatherette one for the comfort alone so if the used one is gross you have even more reason to get one.
>>738475582Not him, but the problem is while pirating shit for facebook headsets is piss easy, if you don't have/want a facebook headset you're shit out of luck because it's all compiled for ARM using facebooks proprietary API bullshit. Which you can hypothetically get around the latter, getting around trying to run ARM code on X86-64 is something no one seems to give any amount of shit about. Only memeing hard with FEX to go in the opposite direction.Hilariously, because the Steam Frame is running ARM, once someone inevitably writes a translation layer between facebook's bullshit and SteamVR on that headset, pirating and playing le Quest exclusives outside of facebook's walled garden is going to not only be possible, but again piss easy if you happen to have that headset specifically.
half life 3 will save vr
>>738476152>Without breaking the bank>But it has to be newAin't happening I'm afraid. Like the other anon said, the only part you actually have to worry about is the face gasket which you should be getting a brand new one of regardless of how we feel about the 2nd hand market. Everything else in a VR headset is hard plastics, electronics, and sometimes glass on the lenses of higher end headsets.With this in mind, your choice depends on what you value, and your definition of "Not breaking the bank". The golden rule is "All VR headsets are shit, you just need to pick the one that's not shit in the parts you cannot tolerate being shit and is shit in the parts you can forgive."
>>738476838Nta, but I’m still way too much of a germaphobe to ever consider buying a used one. Even if I could guarantee the previous owner wasn’t a fat neckbeard. I’ve seen the oils my eyelashes leave on the lenses. I’m forever a new only buyer.
>>738475795My subjective opinion is that it looks a bit better than my old index but the lower brightness takes a moment to get used to.
>Quest 2 fully charged>Virt-a-Mate loaded>6-pack of Tenga eggs just deliveredaww yea, time to "game"
>>738450157bigshart isnt worth it even if you already have all the sensors and controllersjust get the zucc 3
>>738460936Into the Radius looks better than it looks if that makes any sense. It's incredibly ugly and off-putting in screenshots and recordings, but when you're actually in it, the atmosphere and lighting are much more effective. I'm still not totally sure what's going on there.
VR gaming is less worth it than ever before. The industry has gone off a cliff with major developers ceasing almost all support for VR titles. There are still a few indie games coming out with various levels of polish, but that's everything you are going to be receiving. PC VR is also behind consoles in some respects due to the complete apathy of the market. Unless you're building a sim rig for a very specific game or are an autistic shut in what wants to ERP in VRC there's no reason to invest into VR. t. two headsets, total 450€ invested
>>738475582not sure about other platforms, but the Quest is unbelievably easy to sideload games on it. You can play every VR game on it, it's so easy I half-believe that Facebook knows about the "exploit" but doesn't want to patch it because it's such a system seller
are we still pretending psvr isnt the best
Got PSVR2 to finally check out vr without having to worry about bullshit setup. Pavlov, Re7/4, Hitman, Aces of thunder are fun. Will buy another one for PC in like ten years when they fix the rest of the issues like size, wires, resolution all in one and if the apocalypse of shovelware for Meta phones on faces for children ever stops.
>>738479992What scenes do you use in virt-a-mate?
>>738481989 I can't say, I'd get banned
>>738453116Reverb g2. Cheap. Has a great LCD filter so no screen door effect. Valves new VR is coming out soon(TM) alternatively the valve index.VR is still experimental so no point in burning money on something that will be obsolete soon.b
They are nice but have a lot of glare from the oled screen
>>738454069That actually looks really good for onceYou really get what you pay for in the VR world
>>738481780There's an official Sony adapter that makes PSVR2 work as a PCVR headset
>>738454069Wow that does seem like a leap in VR tech.
>>738450157I've owned a PSVR, a Rift CV1, a Rift S, a Quest 2, a PSVR2, and a Quest 3. While I don't play VR all year or anything, I do get on kicks where I get REALLY into VR for a month or two, and replay all the greats (Alyx, Super Hot, Beat Saber, Switchback, RE Village/4, Gran Turismo 7, Pistol Whip). I just picked up Deadpool, Aim Assault (basically VR Time Crisis), and I bought those grip attachments for the controllers to give them proper gun recoil. VAM is also great for a fap too. I even got one of those auto-Fleshlight things that sync up with what's going on in the game. All that said, I think VR is worth it.
>>738480238My problem with Into the Radius 2 is it's so fucking SLOW.I've got 9 hours in it and only just got a Mosin after using shitty 9x18mm pistols since the beginning. There's a cool modular weapon system and this shop with tons of weapons on the walls to purchase but they're all gated behind some arbitrary leveling up system instead of the money I make.I'm seriously about to drop it
>>738483849>VAM is also great for a fap too. I even got one of those auto-Fleshlight things that sync up with what's going on in the game.The best one is the Handy 2 Pro. So much better than everything else.
How is Maestro?
>>738481780Quest 3 is about as good a deal as you're liable to get for a long time. It's wireless, UEVR and RE Framework basically mean that most UE and RE Engine games can be played in VR, eliminating the issue of there being no games for it. You can also use Quest Game Optimizer to upres the games beyond the default, and Quest 3 also has color passthrough, and does AR, and as far as I'm concerned, AR is cooler than VR. For example, Home Invasion is basically Call of Duty Zombies, but you're actually running around your IRL house, defending from waves of zomibies trying to break in. I don't know why they haven't made an AR Ghostbusters game yet, that seems so obvious.
>>738483985Level 3 is like four or five missions in. But you can also find weapon parts randomly in the maps. My recommendation is use the free shotgun with a better stock and upgraded barrel until you get to level 3 and get decent rifle options.
>>738484085I think it is a Handy, though I don't remember which kind specifically. It's got that mic stand like contraption you can use to hook it up to your chair so you can go hands-free. It's pretty cool when you're into it, but that post-nut cleanup is kind of depressing.
>>738450157Still not giving a shit about Bigscreen until they add inside out tracking.
>>738484476I'm still waiting on these retards to release a better Fleshlight adapter for it
>>738484556their entire selling point is that the headset is small(because it doesnt have inside out tracking)they will never it add
>>738454069the pimax crystal super oled/ dream air seems to be better in every category but who knows when it really releases theoretically its already out but with pimax you never know
>>738450157I got myself Quest 3 (to play it with my PC through SteamVR) quite recently, played couple of games and now it sits on my desk, I keep buying VR games once in a while, but never touch them.
>>738484556the pimax dream air is the closest its going to get its lightweight like the beyond but with inside out tracking also a better resolution and higher refresh rate
>>738459621Pico has chink store and chink quality apps.Steamframe is basically guaranteed to be well supported for years to come and is open enough platform for autists to do whatever they want with it.I would say wait for frame price info and then decide if you want to buy it.All of those headsets are big upgrade over quest 2 no matter which you choose.Beyond is expensive and needs external tracking also not wireless which for me for example is a dealbreaker.>COULD be better if they give me more information on improving the front-cameras with the modules they announced.I dont get valves choices with the passthrough and no hand tracking. Because of those two for me steam frame went from instant buy to wait and see.
>>738485063>Pico has chink store and chink quality apps.I'd be using the Steam store for 100% of my time for sure
>>738469603Eye tracking seems mostly useful for foveated streaming and rendering to me. It could be somewhat useful for obscure situations where the player could benefit from having the game know what they're trying to focus on, though that's less of an issue in VR anyway.
>>738485063>I dont get valves choices with the passthrough and no hand tracking.Hand tracking is purely a software thing considering the cameras are right there (so either valve themselves or some autist WILL eventually make that happen), but the reason for both the lack of that and minimum viable product passthrough is right there in the marketing. They're wanting the average normie to want to use it to play their flatscreen games on a giant virtual display, whether streamed from their PC or on the thing itself if the game's light enough, with VR capabilities as a bonus on top of that.It's main goal isn't to be the best VR headset ever, ala the Index circa 2020. Which boils it down to a glorified Quest 3 without the Facebook bullshit, with controllers that have enough buttons to actually play real video games.You don't need hand tracking for normal video games, and passthrough (and ESPECIALLY augmented reality) is a meme that doesn't add anything to normal video games, aside from indulging the fat and lazy who can't manage taking their headset off to do whatever it is they need to do in reality.
