Takashi Tezuka, the co-creator of Mario and Zelda and director of the best Mario and Zelda games including Yoshi's Island has retired, and /v/ doesn't even give a shithttps://nintendoeverything.com/longtime-mario-developer-takashi-tezuka-retiring-as-executive-officer-from-nintendo/
Thus guy designed 1-1. Cool guy
>>738450532stockbros? how will this affect stocks?
>>738450532o7No wonder modern Nintendo is starting to look completely diffrent to what they were.
>>738450532I have his signature on a Yarn Yoshi amiibo I won on a contest, along with the lady who designed all the yarn characters in the game.He's a cool dude.
>>738450745That’s pretty cool, how does the signature look on the yarn? Or did he sign the box?
The ship of Theseus has hit Nintendo.It's actually over ;.;
>>738450532>Tanabe and Tezuka are goneWell at least Tropical Freeze could not have been a higher ending point for the series
>>738451650Signed the box. Also has a photo of him and the lady who made the yarn models holding the signed Mega Yarn Yoshi's (there was 3 winners).
>>738450532Correct. I don't care about bingshit.
>>738450532When is Miyamoto leaving? Everyone who's done nice things are leaving while this cancer is still there
>>738450745Of all the Amibo's to ever have, getting the Yarn one is probably the most normie/actually good-looking one about, that and signed is really fucking cool.
>>738450745The yarn Yoshi amiibo is the only amiibo i've ever actually kinda wanted, it has actual soul
>>738451849Miyamoto is so uninvolved with game development he wasn't even credited in Mario Kart World. He's a creative in his 70's, he just works on theme parks and movies now.
>>738450532Didn't know. Now you told me, and I still don't give a shit.
>>738451783Nice I’m jelly
>>738450532There's only one thing in my mind every time I see him. It's from a showcase of Yoshi's wooly yarn or whatever and he says something about Yoshi facing tough situations in this game, while actually you see a very mild situation on screen. Was hilarious to me.
>>738451914It doesn't really matter if he's not directly involved, japanese are autists about respect and shit so they'll still work as if he was breathing down their necks while he's still there, can't risk damaging his honor
>>738451849Miyamoto has next to nothing to do with game development anymore. His role is more of a company mascot these days and at the most just gives his opinion on gaming projects.Miyamoto is certainly much more involved in Nintendo movies and theme parks, but who knows by how much. I bet he spends more time in his garden with his grand kids than anything else.
>>738450646Either not well or not at all.You did not buy a bull.
>>738450532Maybe Yoshi games can finally stop being made for mentally retarded babies now.
>>738450532So?
>>738452116>japanese are autists about respect and shit so they'll still work as if he was breathing down their necks while he's still thereAnon, they've literally never worked like that.
>>738451741Yup totally agree.
>>738451741Tanabe was a cancer. fuck him
>>738450532>First project was devil worldBased
I learned long ago that one guy retiring from videogames in a big company means literally nothing as games are made by many many peopleUnless its a kojima tier auteur, and this guy wasnt, I dont care
>>738450532sorry I was doing dailies on my gachas
>>738456063You can clearly tell whenever a core part of a group leaves, you can lose a lot of staff and see no real effect, but there are always a notable handful of devs that will make a big impact if you lose them. Most projects need a tard wrangler with a vision, and if that tard wrangler gets replaced you're fuckedNot saying it's the case with this, but it'æs riodiculous to think games are good because of the group and not because of the very core few team members
>>738451741>tanabe retiringthat was good. he should have done that 15 years ago
>>738450532>directed games 3 decades ago>clearly has no influence anymore or if he does he supports the crappy current open world era of nintendoOk why should I give a shit
>>738450532He's only 65, I thought he was around Miyamoto's age but he's like 8 years younger. At least he's not retiring as a whole yet. He had a hand in many of the most iconic Nintendo games. All these OG devs gradually retiring or stepping down from more hands-on positions is depressing, I hope they were serious about training apprentices.
>>738456685>I hope they were serious about training apprentices.What's the point of training an apprentice when we're years away from the end of history if we're lucky?
>>738456685Nintendo's been careful to ensure that the old men's legacies are carried on, while still letting the new blood flex their own talents and ideas.
>>738452209You don’t know a damn thing about miyamoto
>>738457064If you believe that you might as well say all companies should shut down now, they made enough money till the "end of history."
>>738457312But who are they? Are they currently at the helm or still a work in progress? i sure as hell hope they're not already directing games because I haven't been impressed for the last several years.
>>738457572But the companies are the ones who are going to end history. That's how it was always going to end: unrestrained greed consuming the entire world.
>>738450532>including Yoshi's IslandDamnWhy is it they couldn't replicate that success since then?
>>738457995You guys are aware there is more to Yoshi's Island than the music and graphics, right? the platforming is not that good.
>>738458036Wait yoshis island platforming not good? You sure you aren't thinking of yoshis story?
>>738457995They decided to make yoshi a designated toddler series after smw2 so the gameplay can't be anything other than braindead. Shame because the aesthetics of the new yoshi look great
>>738450532It isn’t fair.
>>738452116They'll still respect him after he retires dumbass. Him leaving won't change anything.
Farewell king. You made dozens of games that changed the gaming landscape. And it's not your fault gays latched onto your children's dinosaur character.
>>738456063if you haven't noticed nintendo's steady decline i dont know what to tell you
>>738450532I like that he looks like an ugly bastard from H games, i hope he managed to molest many nintendo employees and that he has a happy retirement
Sad to see, he left behind a great legacy though. His track record was amazing.
>>738457064It's just natural you homosexual.
>>738452209>>738452116>retards STILL seething over a 60+ year old jap despite knowing fuck and all about his work or contributions/v/ is full of inbred niggers
>>738450532funny enough he retired when I pretty much completely stopped giving a shit about nintendo.its over.
>>738456063It depends. Nintendo has an enormous chain of command because it has such high retention rates. Everyone that worked on SMB1 was credited on SMB Wonder, a game that came out 38 years later. So it doesn't really matter that Tezuka or Miyamoto or even Koizumi or Aonuma isn't directly hands-on in video games these days because they've already groomed generations of successors, e.g. Kenta Motokura for 3D Mario who's gone from director to producer. It doesn't matter if somebody like Koizumi or Takahashi leave because there's already a decent number of producers and managers overseeing their respective divisions. Now will they find people that like mugging for the camera as much as those two since Iwata's untimely passing and Reggie's retiring? Probably not.Now it was a huge problem for companies like Capcom who had, unwittingly or not, given an insane amount of power and oversight to Keiji Inafune and a lot of their productions imploded the second he left. Same with Konami and Kojima. And it took them basically a shitload of the 2010s to recover and reorganize. Hell, look at Square Enix who's just thrown random ass people and teams at Final Fantasy and struggled to get 4 numbered entries out since the HD age.
>>738450532>Mario and Zelda games including Yoshi's Island and /v/ doesn't even give a shitAnd why would I? Which part of "Nintendo has no games I care for" goes over the cultist head?
>>738465090>He made Mario 50 years ago that means you can't complain when he tries to ruin it
>738465857>coming into a thread just to declare how much he doesn't care about somethingWhat genuinely causes this behavior?
>>738457064Don't be so pessimistic anon. Things look a bit crazy but its not that bad. We are also a few years away from some pretty amazing technology becoming a reality that will increase the quality of life of the globe. Automation and space travel is about to become seriously profitable very soon and it will come with so many benefits. Have some hope. Things are actually getting better. And the chip and computer market will see an insane decrease in prices once the demand for chips are met. Gaming in 7-10 years will be fucking insane compared to what it is now.
>15 shitendo furfag threads per hour>"y u complain?"
>>738466175I used to sell material to a company that does these 3d printed concrete houses in central texas. Its pretty neat. But if I was going to make my own low-energy passive design house I'd go with concrete domes buried into earthwork. You basically take two heavy layers of tarp, lay a bunch of rebar through the middle, pour concrete, and then inflate a big air-bag under the whole thing. as it cures so at the end you get a nice reinforced concrete dome ready to be turned into whatever. If you sink the foundation at least 6 feet deep the natural insulation of the planet will keep things at a comfortable 50-70 degrees year round. Dump a load of dirt while keeping a big open southern face, and use some old-school airflow tricks and you can have a comfortable well ventilated climate controlled hobbit hole that doesn't require 90% of the power that most homes do. If you could luck out with an artesian well you could put a solar heater and cistern on the "roof" of your hill and have hot and cold water for the price of wiping down some plexiglass and changing some water filters once in a while.
>>738466175>tech is improving!…which’ll likely not be used for good (see ai)>robots are gonna revolutionize the world!…by putting more people out of work and lining the ceo’s pockets even more>prices are gonna decrease once demand’s met!…to which they’ll keep the prices up and call it the new normal>things are gonna get better!picrel
>>738450532you're right
>>738457995Besides Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Story and Yoshi Touch & Go, every other Yoshi game was outsourced to some other random company that sucks ass like Arzest
>>738457064>when we're years away from the end of history if we're lucky>he actually believes thisNo anon, you are not living in the end times on any real metric.
>>738457064how full of yourself do you have to be to actually believe that you will be the final part of human history?
>>738466870Not that anon, but IF you can start bootstrapping in space industry you very quickly start running into the kinds of numbers where traditional supply side economics stop working because once your supply effectively becomes infinite then any demand is a marginal fraction of zero. A decent sized iron-rich asteroid floating around the solar system can easily beat the total amount of iron ore that humanity has dug out of the crust of the earth since the dawn of time. Pretty much every single mineral resource exists in far more abundance in orbit than on the planet. Rare earth metals, precious metals, loads of iron, phosphorous, ammonia, water, etc, pretty much everything you want or need. The real shit-kicker is just the initial cost of getting all of that into orbit is prohibitive with current lifting technology. But once you get the ball rolling you're quickly heading towards an economy that, at the highest levels at least, is post scarcity. At that point you should have probably figured out how to survive indefinitely in space (robust habitats capable of (mostly) self sufficient expansion), and how to build and assemble them with local resources then you have a scalable civilization with almost infinite space to expand and almost infinite resources to spend on expansion. So now you can have a planet where most heavy industry and agriculture is in orbit, anyone with wanderlust can emigrate off world, and the people left on earth would become stewards of the unique thing earth has left, its environment and biodiversity.
>>738450532hes a legend but why would I give a shit? Its obvious he hasnt had a hand in game quality in 30 years
>>738450532>Yoshi's Island>Best Mario gameHell no. That was the start of when they decided to make the games more and more casual. The level design is interesting, but there is no fear of dying. You don't have to play carefully, you can just grab Mario back whenever. The game is just tedious. It is obvious that the guy had no drive for actually interesting games. He was the spearhead for stupid shit like Flipnote and Animal Crossing. Good riddance.
>>738467945There is an interesting argument to be made that if you took the entire total absolute population of humanity that has ever and will ever exist, and plot it on a graph of population over time, and then asked someone to place bets on when someone would be most likely to 'exist' the statistical probability says at the point where there are the most humans on the planet. So if you are alive NOW then odds are really good that you're existing in that peak population event. If humanity were to theoretically survive for eternity then there should be the MOST people at some point in our relative future, which means you're a statistical anomaly. So if you're alive NOW then it means there probably won't be that many more people born after you. Of course its a flawed concept that ignores the simple fact that people still win the lottery, and on an individual basis you're just as likely to exist at one point in the human continuum as any other.
>>738456063It might not be just one guy but in nintendo's case the game quality and talent leaving coincide very well
>>738467945I believe people will get so dumb in the future that they'll just stop recording things and the concept of a history will be lost, replaced with endless now fueled by dopamine hits.
>>738468518Can't find the page but I liked how transmetropolitan talked about it. At some point collectively everyone forgot what the actual year was, and so current events are talked about in terms of how long before or after various major crisis events happened (30 years after the sentient tapeworm revolution). Dan Simmon's wrote a book called Illium that dealt with it pretty interestingly as well. Its in the far future where most of humanity on earth are like Eloi from Well's novel, beautiful idiots who had inherited a post singularity paradise by their ancestors who had all 'ascended,' everyone basically had every whim catered to by this nanny AI system so it was just this perpetual adolescent regression. For fun everyone watches the trojan war broadcast from the distant past where post-singularity humans living on olympus mons on mars got so lost in the sauce they think they are the greek gods, and so they go back in time to intervene in the trojan war. Meanwhile another ofshoot of post-humanity, a society of advanced Moravec Machines realize whats happening, so they go back in time to unite the greeks and trojans to fight against the post-singularity god-humans by arming them with hyper-advanced but era-specific weapons, so you have quantum-immortality Achilles going into battle with a molecular blade sword. Like most of Dan Simmons' work its all set-up with no payoff (don't even bother reading the sequel, whatever you make up in your head will be more satisfying, which sucks doubly when that's also the theme of the book).
Just within the last 2 years>Hideki Konno retired>Kensuke Tanabe retired>Now Takashi Tezuka is retiring soonThe Nintendo you grew up with is gone.
>>738452209I bet Miyamoto is still supervising some projects, and by supervising I mean he heads into a game that he is invested in, waits a few months for the team to get a playable level, interacts with some random shit like a leaf or a rock for 20 minutes, says something cryptic and then leaves the room and the team has to figure out what the fuck he meant by it and make a whole new mechanic around it.
>>738470040who are the people that took those roles? Are they good?
>>738450532Think he was a pretty cool guy and hope people enjoy his creations for decades to come.
>>738450532>People are still defending Miyamoto.. Enough time has passed, the grades are in, Wii Music, Pikmin 99 and Starfox Zero is a shitty "recent" resume.
>>738470480That's how he's been roiling since Metroid Prime.
>>738456063>games are made by many many peopleYet their success depends on very few key people.Once you have more than 10 people on the team, direction and leadership becomes extremely important. Even an All-Star team will suck without a good point guard and a point guard himself will choke without a competent coach. Why the fuck do I even have to point it out?
>>738471887I assume it's because i've seen people have bee sick of all the credit going only to 1 person on a team like Kojima for some games to the point where they swing way too far the other way and now people think key members have no relevance in what makes a product good
>>738472910You only need to stare at AAA for less than a minute to understand that's a crock of hoopla. Too many cooks, spoil the broth.
>>738473031Yeah i agree, most if not all projects depend on a handful of key members
>>738450532I don’t give a shit.
>>738470040>Nintendo has been making shitty decisions and samey safe games for 12 years, longer if you already hated them or nitpick individual series.>but now it's REALLY over because people who haven't been actively developing things in decades have retired.
>>738456339This, they don't need to be auteurs, but if they have some kind of vision for a game and bring the best out of the team, a director leaving can be crippling. Look at Game Freak after they kicked Masuda to the curb. He made some crappy choices himself but clearly he was the tard wrangler for the rest of the company.
>>738465847>KojimaIt's a different situation with him versus Inafune, where Capcom had Inafune as an all-powerful VP with say in basically everything (including the pivot to Western partners), Kojima wasn't as involved in the studio operations at Konami when he left.Kojima HAD been in charge of KCEJ in a similar role, but when Konami consolidated into Konami Group, he was able to take a step back and focus on his creative work which is when KojiPro was formed. The real thing that crippled Konami was that he took so much of his team with him and at that point they were really the only creatives left.
>>738450532The true creator of these series.
He directed some excellent games but was also supervisor and producer for a lot of turds lately.
