>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxgYGGFNs98>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCu3V81N74>ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME MUH ENDGAME>more filler and reskinned bosses>no new class>no swords>still unfinished campaignSo instead of finishing and polishing the main game (which is great by itself), they are focusing on the fucking grinding filler content and pandering to the chinese and the no life losers , huh?Youtubers and bugmen have really fucked this game up.
>>738451620might as well wait until exilecon for it to become free 1.0
>>738451652At this rate, 1.0 will be released in 2030.
>>738451620If you played the game you would realize the endgame was nearly nonexistant, which is bad for game where you're supposed to grind end game maps and make new builds to grind harder end game maps.This post reads like it was written by someone that has never finished acts.
>>738452369jonatroon says november... surely this will be it..
The game will never enter 1.0 won't it? They are making too much money drip feeding retards
>>738452437unless you're a chink or autistic, the campaign is more than enough to enjoy a build. Once you're finished, just start a new playthrough to try a new build.Endgame is such a shitty concept normalized by zoomers and autists.
yeah that's cool and all but where's the Grim Dawn DLC
>>738452490I highly doubt they will add 2 more acts and multiple classes/weapon types by November. Unless 1.0 will be slapped on a random update that will be released before they finish the game and add the missing content.
>>7384526941.0 is just another update, according to jonatroonhttps://frvr.com/blog/path-of-exile-2-1-0-releases-at-the-end-of-2026/
>>738452791well that's just stupid. Why would they keep the game in "early access" for years just to randomly decide it's out of EA when it will probably still years away from being finished?
>>738452601The only autistic one here is you. Every normal player of this game pushes endgame.
>>738452987>waste hundreds or thousands of hours grinding>normalt. Xiang Ching
why the fuck does an early access game have DLC
I recently got this and I dont get it. Have 10 hours and all I do is kill enemies that struggle to kill me while I spam my 3 abilities running around in some cornfield when does it get fun????
>>738452613Isn't it like 2 months away?>inb4 another year-long pushback into cancellation
>>738453403How are still in act 1 after 10 hours? Are you slow? Like, in the head slow?
>>738453464i made a new characterstop projecting tho little loser ;)
>>738451620Path of Exile has to be the most elaborate cookie clicker game I have ever played, It honestly belongs in a gacha thread.
>>738451620>they are focusing on the fucking grinding filler content and pandering to the chinese and the no life losers , huh?you mean the people who spend money on the game? yes
>>738452437>If you played the game you would realize the endgame was nearly nonexistantEndgame before: A bunch of shitty gacha-esque minigamesEndgame now: A bunch of shitty gacha-esque minigames+Piling more shit onto shit doesn't make it not shit
>no new classes>no new weapons>no new actsD4 raped and gaped Poo2
>>738453464I take my time :)
>>738454205Man who has only played gacha games: wow this game is a lot like those gacha games
It's time to apologize
>>738451620>So instead of finishing and polishing the main gameThat's what endgame is. The story is just a filler tutorial before you can actually start playing the game.
>>738454375>shit but less stinkyDon't think I will.
>>738453329This is prob the stupidest post I have read today.
>>738454375>75 zogbucks for a single house cosmetic
>>738454469stfu sheap fucker shill
>>738451620>>still unfinished campaignGood, the campaign is fucking ass. The atlas was more fun in PoE
>>738453329It doesn't
>>738451620How long until the finally get rid of the campaign? It's just boring having to do it every league.
>>738451620Mogged by Lord of Hatred
It's Spark Bloodmage again, ugh
>>738454614the fuck is this shit
>>738453996A new character starts in act 1, bro, so yeah, you are slow in the head.
>>738454702idk cometics and faggot coins or whatever
>>738454702Kek, and I thought Diablo was bad with paid armours. Both studios need a fucking pipebomb for christmas.
>>738454741by the way you type you seem really really stupid and insecure, like really
738455061also i am not your bro loser get some real friends
poop2 is still bad and no amount of shill threads on /v/ wilk change that simple fact.
>>738455061meant for>>738455061
>>738452564What do you mean, 1.0 releases in December. When you think about it, versions are just a number, 1.0 doesn't need to be feature complete.
>>738454260What is d4's end game content? I beat it at release and put it down out of boredom.
Tencent shill thread
>>738455870reskinned rifts from d3 x2, wave defense and dungeons which haven't changed since launch
>>738455870only neckbeards care about endgame content. games are designed to be beaten
Gamer dads are going to be very upset when they finally finish their 40hr campaign and release they can't even start the game until they do another 40 hours of chores
>>738452601Right, so you've never actually played poe, just admit it
>>738454814Yes, Idk who's worse POE2 with the ugly ass cosmetics or D4 with the fucking $20 skins
>>738456489>you have to like the skinner box mechanic designed to trap chinks into infinte loop of dopamine triggers so that they continue to waste thousands of hours and dollars in the game Fuck off, I refuse to play your end game slop.
>>738456718A full poe2 cosmetic/armor set cost $30 minimum.
>>738456812Yeah that's what I said, that you don't play it
>>738456329>games are designed to be beatennot these ones
>>738451620>"Dude the devs added a bunch of Endgame content!"Is the game any good before that?>"no it's a 60 hour grind fest and none of the progress your character makes matters,but the ENDGAME DUDE!!"Modern MMO/Online RPG players are sub humans.
>>738451620>>738452437>>738457574>>ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME MUH ENDGAMEthat's about what I got from this too. Endgame is important. But the game isn't FINISHED. How the fuck you gonna have an endgame when there isn't a START GAME or a MIDDLE GAME?All I can think about looking at this shit is "boy imagine how much more amazing this content would be IF THE GAME WAS FEATURE COMPLETE".
they are just finalizing their unfinished turd for 1.0, all content now is all you will get for 1.0, enjoy your unfinished turd thatll take 2+ years to get finished
Why do people here get so butthurt over this game lmao it's pretty fun
>>738458389i think it's fine and i've enjoyed it, but i'm burned out on no new classes or weapons or skills. And I question adding new content without the complete baseline of classes, weapons, and skills forcing them to go back and re-balance everything repeatedly to accommodate.
>breach>deli>expedition>some gay things that pop up on the ground that give you a menu you're supposed to interact with in an action roleplaying game>systems>systems>systems>systemsI've said it before and I'll say it again, GGG can create systems but it can't make games
>>738458389it's because they keep adding things to end game while the main game is far from complete.Let me not even get started about all the nerfs they have done.
kys shills
>>738459517Don't forget the bajillion new currency items.Remember to buy a stash tab goy or you won't have space for them all.
ggg's nerfs are always fucking retarded because they'd just burn entire playstyles forever whenever Chris Wilson got a bug up his ass about something. He's not there anymore but I guarantee you his new studio will behave the same way
the real REAL endgame for real this timewe also added a bunch of mechanics from poe1
With the new Amazon ascendancy I really want to try a full companion build, ideally I would like to have a tamed beast boss + spirit bear + something else (aura bot or wolves)But what kind of skills, equipments and talents would be good? (other than all the companion-boosting nodes on the bottom right area)
>>738459517I really wish people would stop calling delirium deli, because my brain has to actively go through all endgame mechanics one by one every time because it keeps thinking this some kike or jeet slang
>>738451620[B] SHIT GAME 0/10 [/B][b shit shit shit /b][ b ] absolute dogshit [ /b ]
>bitches and moans>can't stop talking about the gameis there anyone more retarded than OP?
Did they answer in the Q&A how to generate ward? We get it from armor and can spend it with skills, but how do we get back what we spend?
>>738451620Are they changing the activities? The only activity I found consistently fun/interesting was grinding runs of the Trials of Sekhemas and then Temple of Chaos. Stuff like Ritual, Breach, and Expedition are soooo fucking boring and maps are annoying, especially when most of the variety of maps comes from the three aforementioned mechanics
>>738454392Go back to playing poo1 subhuman
>>738458389Because we were promised a good game
How much are they paying people to say POEPOO is good? I could do with a side hustle. I know tri is on the payroll, but he'll deny it and shill that he genuinely likes it.I don't believe for one second that anyone actually finds this atrocious game good
>>738462016>The only activity I found consistently fun/interesting was grinding runs of the Trials of Sekhemas and then Temple of Chaoskys asap
>no swords stillabsolute kusoge
>>738451620unfortunately, if you like melee GGG considers you subhuman
poop2 is still bad. sorry sis
>>738456329Well yeah retard you beat the game when you defeat pinnacle bosses
D4 won.
>NO SWORDSno one cares>NO SWORDS Really no one gives a shit>NO SWORDSAnd?>NO SWORDSThey're shit anyway>NO SWORDSOmg stfu>NO SWORDSReally stfu>NO SWORDSMelee is bad>NO SWORDSYawn>NO SWORDSYou're a troon>NO SWORDSNah you're brown actually>NO SWORDSTell me you're brown>NO SWORDSAdmit you're brown>NO SWORDSRanjeesh stfu>NO SWORDSNo curry man no>NO SWORDSBrown>NO SWORDSBrown>NO SWORDSIndia stinks>NO SWORDSLow IQ brownoid>NO SWORDSBrown>NO SWORDS.>NO SWORDS..>NO SWORDS...>NO SWORDSSHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT SWORDS NO ONE GIVES A SHIT YOU BROWN MORON
>>738451620d4 is still bad, blizzjeet.
>>738451620>jerking off endgame redditors who are happy soullessly farming with their CoC builds again>no templar>no duelist>no shadow>no marauder>no new weapons>no new skills>no balance changes>no more acts>no trial of the ancestors>same old builds as last league>uniques still suck>totems still played by single-digit players>game is still forced generator-spender shit: now with more parasitic mechanics!>crafting is still using expensive orbs to force perfect mods on items: now in new rune flavor!>crafting bench still isn't allowed THOUGHAnother skip for me. They're jerking off their "we need to get the endgame perfect before we can make the game good" idea so hard we're left with no game but lots of time to play it.
>>738464102Nah, the end game rework was more important than a new class. The end game was just awful. What is the point of a new class/weapon if it is not fun to play it when you actually can put together a cool build (AKA maps/endgame)?Yes, I want Duelist as he is my favorite from PoE1 and Champ/Slayer have always been my two favorite ascendancies. Paradoxica is one of my favorite items in PoE1 and so is Saviour. I love swords, and I still pick the endgame rework over that because god fucking damn did this game suck shit to play past the campaign.
ARPGs will never be slow burn progression based RPGs ever again. Enjoy your cookie clicker spam shit with POE 1/2 and D3/4.
>>738464846Poe 2 campaign is pretty slow, it's just a shame that the endgame is just modern poe1 all over again
>>738454440less stinky? are you for real? last time I checked you dont have to pay 150$+ to play PoE2 and it already has more classes and content that D4.
>>738464102Harvest overshadowed all the Leagues and made all loot drops bad. You're not getting your overpowered craft bench back because it kills the whole incentive to play the game.
>>738463326>his Diablo 2 remake doesn't have swordsLOLLMAO
>>738452437the acts are too fucking long in poe 2 and boring af, biggest issue is you dont get any power spikes while leveling since passives are trash unless lucky weapon drop with +damage/levelsalso people wanted path of exile but slower not this combo bullshit system
>>738464725>Nah, the end game rework was more important than a new class. The end game was just awful.And still will be. Enjoy endless maps to get loot from a menu
>>738464957>it's just a shame that the endgame is just modern poe1 all over againThats because of the level disparity you inevitably get in endgame where you might be 10 levels ahead of monster level in a map. Try to go back and beat Count Geonor again after you beat Act 2 in the story and he goes down superfast as well. The reason why story feels slower is because its way stingier with xp so you're -1 to +1 level range of a new area. Compare to PoE 1 where you're unless +2 to +4 levels ahead unless you're just speedrunning through everything and skipping optional quests.
>>738465131>the acts are too fucking long in poe 2 and boring af, biggest issue is you dont get any power spikes while leveling since passives are trash unless lucky weapon drop with +damage/levelsthis but also the acts aren't broken up by anything interesting like cinematics, they're just dull grinds, the highlight is literally trial of sekhemas lmao
>>738464725>Nah, the end game rework was more important than a new class.do you not see the incongruity of working on end game BEFORE THE MAIN GAME IS EVEN FINISHED?THEY SHOULD HAVE ALL THE CLASSES AND CONTENT IN AND *THEN* MAKE AN END GAME BALANCED AROUND THAT. THE GAME IS IT FUCKING EARLY ACCESS AND SEASONAL, THERE'S LITERALLY NO EXCUSE
>>738465253also this, you would think unlocking the aura around 15 would feel good but its like a 10% boost at best. everything past late act 2 feels like a chore.if i wanted to fall asleep id load up grimyawn get it together ggg
>>738464102>trial of the ancestorsthat's a good thing though?sekhama, ultimatum, and tota are all DOGSHIT mechanicsbring back Izaro and publicly execute Jonathan live on stream
>>738465131only act I think is too long is act 3, that shit really drags.
>>738465201The reason is that the devs want it to be that way for some reason. If I wanted to play poe1 I would play poe1.They could have made the endgame slower if they wanted to, instead it's a completely different game from the campaign. This means slower game enjoyers like myself dislike the endgame and poe1 players hate the campaign 100x more than the poe1 campaign
>>738465481it's mostly because they make such a big deal out of opening the drowned city (making you quest thru 2 seperate zones to do it, including the boring ass glitchy channels). Then the drowned city itself is long as fuck. Then you have to go to the ziggerat of filth which is long as fuck. Then a quick jaunt through the sun temple and then your ass gets zotted back in time for three more slog zones.
>>738465497>They could have made the endgame slower if they wanted to,But they can't, because then they have to take away your control of map tiers. If you want slower more dangerous maps, then you always play the highest tier maps. But even there monster level cap is 81 so eventually you overlevel the highest content as well. Thats where you roll more dangerous map mods. T16 highest boss atlas mods make bosses tanky even for superbeefy builds.
>>738465301Blame GGG for rushing out 0.1 and putting in an endgame they themselves said was placeholder, bad, and would require a rework. If they held off for 5-6 more months we probably could have had something more similar to this at release and have more time to make classes. Instead the endgame is so bad that if this was released into 1.0 it would have pretty negative reviews from the players.
>>738452601You are not the audience for this gameFuck off we're full
>>738465845>You are not the audience for this gameI mean neither are PoE1 players by all accounts, mfers HATED this game when it first came out most of the salt was from PoE1 vets and new players fucking loved it. This fixation on the end game is probably entirely due to GGG trying to cater to it's hardcore PoE1 players because spoilers: they're mostly the only ones playing/playtesting the game right now while it's in EA.
>>738451620I'd play this and the first game if it wasn't F2P nonsense. Just give me a physical version I can buy without nickle and diming me on every single thing. The game looks really cool otherwise but I just cannot get into these style of games because publishers really love to monetize the holy hell out of them for some reason.
>>738466030You can play PoE 1 for free right now. People have completed the game without a stash in challenge leagues so inventory space is not mandatory.GGG operates F2P model more like a gateway drug where everything is free and easy but by the time you play the game for 100+ hours and your inventory gets filled with loot and orbs that orb currency stash starts looking really good for how even more convenient it is.
>>738454814Diablo is a paid title, PoE is F2PPaid cosmetics for a paid game is bullshit, for a F2P game, who gives a shit
>>738461561Are you fucking retarded?
>>738452601Retard.>>738457880The campaign is just a time tax you have to pay in order to play the real game (endgame).I would prefer them making new classes and adding swords / axes in before finishing the acts
>>738460279The main game IS the endgame..
>>738466030You can pay 20 bucks for a currency stash and 4 premium stash tabs and act like you just bought a full game
>>738465601You mean they could have designed it differently if they wanted to?
>>738466725no, I'm Nordic ESL, it's just that I only ever heard of Jewish deli shops, and jeets use a similar word, I think desi. I hear deli and my brain just immediately skips to undesirable subraces shitting up white countries
>>738466861>The campaign is just a time tax you have to pay in order to play the real game (endgame).>I would prefer them making new classes and adding swords / axes in before finishing the actsDisagree on the first, but 100% agree on the 2nd oddly enough.I want all the classes and weapons. Any and all build craft is hyper-gimped until all the options are there.>>738467764Anglo-S*xons...
>>738451620>no new class>no swords
>>738465497>They could have made the endgame slower if they wanted toNo, they couldn't. Not without redesigning and rebuilding the itemization and skill synergies from the ground up at least. As things stand, its much easier and cheaper to just push the game closer to how POE1 plays, since they already know how to do it and they have a built-in fan base for that type of game, rather than try and cater to a dozen autists who actually enjoy taking 10 minutes to kill a pack of white mobs.
>NEW HUGE ENDGAME PATCH THAT TOOK +6 MONTHS TO MAKE>it's actually just the exact same, except with slightly better QoL and a more guided experienceI don't know why I was expecting them to have an entirely new endgame experience.
>>738466550>>738466940I will look into this. I would like to play one of these RPG and this one seems to be the best.
>>738468896>entirely new endgame experienceYou really have to be a genuine retard to expect something like that to actually happen. They've been refining that stupid proc-gen map for like a year now. The only way they'd remove it is literally at gunpoing (and even then its not a given).
>>738452601lmfao what a noob
>>738469018It wasn't THAT crazy to think they might ditch the Atlas system in favor of something else, especially considering how vocal the PoE2 fanbase has been for a solid 1½ years about how it sucks. They could still use all the backend tech and mechanics for some kind of new endgame that didn't involve the Atlas.
AIN'T NO WAY LOL
>>738469409Jonathan will add Delve in 1.2Trust the plan, 2 more years.
>>738468896i was expecting a combo of a new class + a new actjohnathan is blowing smoke up Tencent's ass if he's pretending this complete nothingburger of a patch is "the biggest ever"all he's doing is putting some lipstick on the hog. Grinding mapworks fucking sucks and it's where a majority of players quit, aside for the chinese RMT botters.
>>738469409>It wasn't THAT crazy to think they might ditch the Atlas system in favor of something else, especially considering how vocal the PoE2 fanbase has been for a solid 1½ years about how it sucks.Nigger, that's not how software dev projects work. If they were going to remove it, that would've happened in like 0.2, not after they've put a fucking year of work into it (also, it seems to be one of Jonathan's pet ideas that will never go away even if the entire player base shits on them, similar to combo skills).
>>738468874Yes that is the whole fucking problem, as I laid it out in my first post. Why are they making it just like poe1 when they already have poe1 and it's getting, and will keep getting, more content. It's fucking retarded
didn't bother with poopy 2 yet, can someone give the tldr for the new ascendancy?
>>738470010> Why are they making it just like poe1Because the basic mechanics of the game (how items and skills work and interact with each other) do not allow them to do otherwise. And by now it is way too late to change those mechanics.
>>738456489Nta but I played poe hc to mid 90s for a couple years early on. The whole concept of the kind of endgame they do kinda sucks though, I just find the whole "random maps killing random mobs for random loot" extremely antiquated and lacking any real sense of progression when you do it from level 70 or whatever to 100 which is dozens of hours for a single character. Unfortunately it's something of a "gold standard" for arpg engames now so I don't think it will change or anyone will feel comfortable disagreeing with. Something like Median XL has a way better sense of progression and consistent character growth through its endgame by having many distinct farming zones, dungeons and bosses at specific points during the endgame progression. It's nice to graduate from fauztinville to scosglen etc. Going from beach map tier 11 to beach map tier 12 is fucking nothing.
I've always hated crafting leagues
>>738470074It's not too late, they just don't want to
No shadow or duelist so im not playing
>>738469631the players who quit when they reach maps want a single player game they can play once and then forget about it. you do not need to cather to these people, as they do not care about what they consume - they only want new product.
>>738470250>just throw everything you've built until now out the window and make it again>who cares that you spent like 5 years making the current version already, you just don't want toYeah, no shit they don't want to. Not even the chinks are going to bankroll something that retarded.
>>738470015shit
>>738465131Act 3 dragged for way too long.Act 2 ais slightly longer than it should.Act 1 and 4 are perfect length.
>>7384705574 is too longAct 1 is the only good one.
>>738470134bad example. going from map tier 11 to 12 is a one time """grind""" of 15 whole minutes for new player. what you described is more akin from going to regular maps to nightmare maps and various endgame bosses, each with their own new mechanics and lairs. PoE play style is 100% have it your way, which is why people with slave mentality get turned off by it - they want to game to force them through fixed set pieces while they have no say in their own progression.
>>738470015>fist skill - good>extra rune slots - good>way of the mountain - potentially good if you can keep freezing stuff>hollow skills - meh (the bell could be ok if you can reduce the cd enough)
>>738470015it creates clones of yourself to do the skill multiple times with bigger AOE alongside extra rune slots, bell on your back with a crit aoe build and a stone channel thing that boosts melee attacks when you swap back and forth from clones to melee attacks its pretty cool
I hope that shield slam skill is good and not locked behind some ultra rare unique
I think it's funny how ggg are rediscovering "paths that lead to next objective"-technology with the latest patch, something that was present back in D2 and was thoroughly copied in poe1.
Is monk any good? him and the amazon are the only two classes I haven't leveled yet, and the new ascendancy looks interesting.
The way they make a big production for each season/additional content tells me they're probably several seasons ahead in content and are drip feeding you apes pieces of a completed game kek. Even Blizz-Act wouldn't stoop this low.
>>738471053yeah he's fun
>>738470452It's mostly a scaling issue though, which isn't that hard to solve. But they keep making it worse by introducing damage supports etc
>>738470015looks mid desu coming from qs invoker player. the bell shit can be culled which is kinda interesting. the fist and rune shit are good but nothing that blows my mind. channeling is buggy af for mouse move and i don't wanna be stuck standing still. the mountain thing is based on max life lol and won't prevent 1 shots or non-hit damage.
>>738452694they are now coping that "1.0 doesn't need all the classes"this shit gotta be like 5 years behind schedule at this point. judging by this latest update i wouldn't even expect many more if any new skill gems in the categories we already have.
>>738471215>It's mostly a scaling issue thoughIt's not. It is, first and foremost, an issue with how items are generated. There are like 7 independent layers of RNG involved in generating any item drop. That means that, in order to have a good distribution of drops, you need to be killing literal thousands, if not millions of mobs. That alone kills any idea of "slower gameplay" in the cradle.
doesn't this look like the icon of the Elder's quest in PoE1?
Im glad I decided to try out D4. I tried getting into PoE2 with friends and its like>Systems on systems on systems>Hey do you want 5 different skill trees the size of a country???>Gambling simulatorLike yeah I get that the point of the genre is customization and loot RNG. But theres a limit.
>>738471607>I want game where me no think, me press button and win.
>>738451620No swords
>>738465201what? it has nothing to do with levels, have you seen end game builds?It's visual vomit all over again spamming comets on CoC or some variant of these chink-derived meta builds
>>738471053Frost monk got nerfed but its still good. Werewolf Frost Monk did not get nerfed and its really good.
>>738451620I liked what I saw. They’re adding 25 new skills so there’ll be plenty of new things to try out.
>>738471859all the skills are going to be shit
>>738470735a lot of 4 is optional and most levels are very easy to navigate and run through quickly.The main issues with 3 is that it's way too long and the levels are way too big.
>game is incomplete with no beginning, middle, or end>WE MUST FOCUS ON THE POST-END RIGHT NOW IMMEDIATELY WITH NO THOUGHTS OR REGARDS TO HOW A FINISHED GAME MIGHT AFFECT ITActually baffling thought process, its like having a plot of land to build a house, and the first thing you do is create a ticking time bomb right in the center of the plot that you don't know when it will explode, potentially only doing so after the house is built and taking it all down with it, so now you have to build a shitty house that is geared to withstand an internal explosion going off, not actually be liveable and comfortable.
>>738472175you are the dumbest gorilla I've ever met
>>738471756>It's visual vomit all over again spamming comets on CoC or some variant of these chink-derived meta buildsThat depends what class you're playing. Want less visual vomit play Warrior or Bleed Huntress. Want the screen to be full of colorful particles play Ranger, Druid or Sorc. That has always been the case, PoE 1 Boneshatter build has very little visual vomit, you just hit monsters and they explode.
>>738471454nah they are owned by chinks nowthis is how gaas games are handled, even if the game is finished, they will drip feed the missing content to keep the player count high and steady.they don't carte about delivering a finished products, they care about player count and engagement which are the main metrics they can present to shareholders to keep them happy
>>738471607Green arrow
>>738472271>delivering a finished game first doesn't matter, I NEED that infinite treadmill that subtly encourages me to spend money on tabs before anything else!
>you can be stuck for HOURS barely doing any damage because rng keeps dropping you weapons with low damage output for your current level>suddenly after hours get a lucky drop and you can enjoy the game again for the next two actswhen are they going to fix their shittyrng/balancing?
>>738471607Wonder woman
>>738472570I spent money on PoE1 tabs a decade ago and they all work in PoE2IQ issue
>>738472579Just gamble after level up
>>738471607Batman
>>738472579Why are you playing ssf if you're retarded? You can buy good weapons through the campaign for pennies
>>738472570Yes, GGG knows the paypigs in their audience are the most mazed and require the infinite treadmill.They already got their early access money from the dad gamers, now they need to keep milking their pigs for all they're worth.
>>738471543Ground loot is 1000x better than in PoE 1, and probably a lot easier to tweak too. I don't think that really kills the idea of slower gameplay either, if you implement crafting well
>>738472748>oy vey goyim>rmt some good leveling weapons from my legitimate store based out of bangladesh india
>Release lots of hot babes and men as enemies or npcs>refuse to let players have hot armors.
>>738472273You're right that there are more "normal" builds but I don't think those other kinds of builds should exist in the game especially since I feel like its the "cuhraaazy" builds that are the only ones who can clear content consistently faster/better and therefore raises the bar for what builds should be able to do eventually down the line with new content leaving more flavourful/thematic builds in the dust.
>>738472671there are way too many filler statsI have more chances winning in real casino than getting good weapon through gambling in poe2this whole shitty mechanic should have been kept exclusively for end game chinks>>738472748>DUDE ENGAGE IN OUR ECONOMY INSTEAD OF DEMENDING US TO FIX OUR TERRIBLE BALANCING
>>738472801>Ground loot is 1000x better than in PoE 1Ground loot isn't worth looking at in PoE2 thoughAll you want is white bases, getting a rare or magic item feels like shit because you can't scour.
>>738472842in game trading you retarded niggerThey even put it in the game now so you don't need to be able to copy paste a link
>>738471543Here's a trick question for you, what's the difference between 100 mobs dropping 100 items and one mob dropping a 100 items? When you anwser that you might just solve your impossible problem.
>>738472897>there are way too many filler statsNot really. I even turned on the game and did a little bit of gambling and on average 2 out of 5 items have mods you needAdd desecration to that and you shouldn’t have any problems with gear in campaign even on SSF.
>>738472913Yeah but the whole idea of PoE 2 ground loot was for the player to throw a few currency orbs at them for a chance to get something decent. It's a developer fail if no one bothers to do that
lmao they added things i wanted as QoL>in game build guide system, albeit theirs is jank. still have to interface with the desktop>built in/easier price checkingmaybe theyll also have a built-in item filter system, and AoE loot eventually
>>738472893>I feel like its the "cuhraaazy" builds that are the only ones who can clear content consistently faster/betterSo play SSF, why do you have to envy some minmaxed lightning korean streamer build? PoE 2 in particular shifted a lot of DPS and gear checks to mechanical skill checks so even your less than perfect build can clear most of the content just fine, you just have to git gud at actually playing the game because bosses are now soul bosses that can absolutely buttfuck you if you don't know what you're doing..
>kinda want to play a grindan lootan arpg>dont want to invest on poe1 because itll inevitably close or die when poe2 releases>dont want to pay money on poe2 because i dont know if ill just get bored and drop the gamewhat do i do?
>>738451620>still no swords and axes>still requires a $10,000 PC to play comfortably
>>738473928Just play D4 man, poo2 ain't worth it
>>738473843just wait. i think they said their next release (in 6 months? lol) is 1.0. so full release.
>>738474318yeah ggg only patches poe2 like 2 times a year. Tencent probably ordered them to do a "1.0" regardless since it'll have been two years since release and it's ggg's fault if they couldn't actually deliver in the timeframe.
>>738474318They said they'd do a bunch of month long economy resets with nerfs
Post actual critiques about "why" melee is bad. Mace and shield can clear all endgame content. Stop being bad and calling melee trash. Post examples as to what's wrong with it instead of crying.
>>738451620genuinely might have been the best patch reveal I've ever seen. Will absolutely be dumping hundred of hours into this shit with my Witchhunter
>>738470015>new ascendancy!>look inside>grants skill>grants skill>grants skill
>>738474860r*ped and g*ped
>>738465481nah senpai, act 4 was dragged out as FUCK
Why is it that this is the one genre where 1.0 release means "50% of the shit we advertised is not in the game"
>>738464725>I still pickPoE1 chads don't have to pick because they've stuck to the philosophy of having every update add something for every type of player.
>>738465043The crafting bench existed long before harvest
>>738475036small pp energy LMAO
>no damage numbers
What's the consensus on wasd movement
>>738456310>reskinned rifts from d3 x2, wave defense and dungeons which haven't changed since launchSounds more fun than poe actually, might have to check it out.I HATE how the "endgame" in poe is just dumb chore that prevents you from actually playing the game.>dude we've added 10000 more currencies you have to deal with.. this is totally content!"like wtf?
>>738475340disastrous poe2 would be on like 1.8 by now if they didn't add that console slop
>>738475293There is damage numbers, are you blind?
>>738475429yes sis it's better then that chud game poo2
>>738475340FunAll other ARPGs just don’t feel quite right after Poe 2 movement
>>738471859Oh there are new skills for existing weapons? Why the FUCK didn't they lead with that?
>>738471607pooplers have no recourse to this discourse, how tragic...
>>738451620>no swordsin a medieval rpg? wtf?
>>738474878Beribug, on da /v/?
>>738475914They are either tied to unique items or Kalguran skills that are not weapon-dependent.And they showed a couple of them on the stream, like the new RF or that hammer that turns all fire attacks into cold ones.
>>738473816>the backshot from her trailernnnnNNNN wish this fucking game had more art/porn. Asala too.
>>738461468It's very possible that none of the equips and skills are good. That's just the kind of game PoE is.
>Willie leaves the company>it all goes to shitlol
>>738476127>tied to runes/uniquesannnnnnd fucking dropped.
>>738476256>runesThey work like normal skills, just use wards instead of mana.
>>738476092more likely than you think
>>738451620>Path of Exile 2 is currently on Version 0.4.0>The next major update, Version 0.5.0 (Return of the Ancients), is scheduled for release on May 29, 2026my fucking brother when will this game ever be complete? and they still have this map dogshit endgame with no party play mechanics or actual enemy mechanics forced slop rolling what the fuck it's just infinite slop diablo
>>738476519it's LITERALLY going to 1.0 after ExileconRETARD
is this a good game for coop? i wanna play a diablo-like with some buddies but diablo 4 was terrible and from what i've seen everyone plays this game solo
>>738476617They are doing a Last Epoch. LE went from unfinished POS to 1.0 which was still an unfinished POS and they even admitted it. This genre is so fucking dumb.
>>738451620i thought there was gonna be swords. are there really no swords yet? im ok still using a bonk stick with my warrior or whatever but i really want swords
>>738476798It's ok
>>738476617do you believe every frog that chirps in the night?>make 1 billion on EA>skip to 1.0 without finishing game so you can start charging money for updatesweird I didn't know tel aviv was in new zealand
>>738476256the game is already full of niche skills and passives that fucking nobody will use because it all boils down to a 3-4 fucking rotation on the end, nobody is sitting here playing this shit with some fucking madkatz programmable flight stick. Every goddamn build is 3-4 quickly replicable effects boosted by passives. The games pace and rocket tag lethality does not allow for more complex combo's than that. If it's not a primary weapon skill that does not appreciably change or expand what you can do, it's a waste of fucking space.>>738476617>it's LITERALLY going to 1.0 after Exileconbro EA was only supposed to last a year, and that was 1 year and 5 months ago. It's only at .5, with them only releasing a class and weapon every 6 goddamn months. Oh, except it's been 6 months since druid and all we're getting is a revamp of the same end game mapping system they've had since beta launch.What i'm saying is, if you're expecting this shit to come out before the end of 2027, you are huffing some weapons grade copium.>>738476798>is this a good game for coop?currently, no
>>738476845at least PoE2 will finish the campaign before going to 1.0 lmao>>738476949blame the poopwunners that forced them to stop development constantly
>>738476256better start grinding out those divs
>>738476949>the game is already full of niche skills and passives that fucking nobody will use because it all boils down to a 3-4 fucking rotation on the end, nobody is sitting here playing this shit with some fucking madkatz programmable flight stick. Every goddamn build is 3-4 quickly replicable effects boosted by passives. The games pace and rocket tag lethality does not allow for more complex combo's than that. If it's not a primary weapon skill that does not appreciably change or expand what you can do, it's a waste of fucking space.meant for >>738476321
>>7384700151. Pick Monk2. Ascend to Martial Artist3. Pick Hollow Palm Technique on the tree4. Pick the new stonefist node that makes your gloves giga goodNow do whatever staff skill you want. Hollow Palm technique was playable before (though it got nerfed) and this makes it better.
>>738470134Anon, you most have played PoE long ago.They have since added end game quests that give you a thing to do along with multiple unique bosses along the way. It is like:>Get to end game>Quest to investigate the Atlas>Weird shit keeps happening as you get deeper>Get quests for Maven, Eater/Exarch, and the new Originator stuff>They give you a goal to work towards, and usually halfway through the quest you get a boss, then you fight a pinnacle at the end>Then can repeat the process to fight harder versions of the bossesWhile it is true the game is still just kill shit to get shit, they have given a framework to the endgame. PoE2's problem was there was no framework or direction.
>>738471053Yeah monk is really good and a lot of fun. My favorite class, and the new martial artist looks sweet as fuck with hollow palm
>>738476224>Chris Wilson leaves>Immediately get currency exchange, async trade, pausing, and 10000 features he never wanted to addIt was give and take. He did good to hold back on some of the zoom but was also a literal boomer who thought trading on the forums was sovlfvl and kino and epic
>>738477279oh right I forgot the fucking founder of the studio took off. Whose left?
>>738477372maori diversity hiresGGG gets no work done because they have daily stand up meetings first thing in the morning where each one goes through their tribe's ritual hakka danceBy the time they're done it's lunch time so they all waddle across the street to the nearby thai restaurant (I went there, it was pretty good but my asshole was burning the next day)
>>738475340Objectively superior to mouse.The future of ARPGs is wasd or controller. Pure mouse movement for the genre does not work anymore.
>>738475036Because anon 1.0 is not 1.0Do you know what 1.0 is? Take a guess. I mean that, I am gonna spoil my answer so take a minute to think.1.0 is them making the decision to move to f2p because the early access supporter packs simply have not sold as much recently because everyone who really wanted to try got a key. They want to get it f2p so that they can get more people in to start spending money. They committed to it being pay-to-access for the duration of EA, so time to end the EA.
>PoE2 devs give 2+ hours long live QA interviews talking about mechanics and shietGrim Dawn bros...we can't even compete.
>>738477464If it's full of Maori why did they make the warrior, who was a maori in the previous game, into some random black dude with no personality in this one?
>>738469461isn't this the faggot that posts the same 10 shitty builds that don't work every league?
>>738477372Was Mark an original founder? If not Jonathan leads the company now. I am pretty sure they were founded by 3 dudes and 2 of them are still running the show. Chris is the only one who left, and he made it clear he left not because of Tencent or Jonathan or anything else.Chris is a programmer/game designer and he effectively became the moneyman CEO of GGG and never got a chance to work on the game anymore and spent more time in meeting with execs than he did with devs so he quit to form a small studio that reminds him of the good ol days. In fact, he JUST did an interview with Jonathan on his youtube channel and they're still great friends.
>>738477686the marauder just isn't in the game yet
>>738477727Mark was hired later on as a QA guy iirc
I stopped playing after their first round of massive nerfs to all the power fantasy builds.Did they stop acting like faggots and reverse the nerfs or are they still nerfing the ever loving shit out of everything fun?
>>738477765Mark is definitely the best guy to lead PoE1 though. He actively plays the game and I am pretty sure every piece of QoL for PoE1 came from his own personal frustration with systems.
>We realise that running the campaign over and over is unreasonable because of its length>So we made it about 30 seconds faster
/ourguy/ Quin69 said new patch seems very good and very bigPoE2 wonPoEKEKs lostD4keks lostGrim Yawn GODS are still waiting for DLC
>>738477798The game is power crept to oblivion and the CoC builds are still around and better than ever. So yes, some of the most busted builds in PoE2 so far were in 0.3 and 0.4, only old temporalis really feels like the most broken thing.
>>738451620>NOOOO HOW DARE YOU PANDER TO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY PLAY YOUR GAME!>YOU SHOULD BE PANDERING TO ME INSTEAD, WHO IS GOING TO DROP THE GAME AFTER TWO HOURS ANYWAW
>>738477897w-what about the pochbros?
>>738477821Nah dude, more like 5 minutes faster per zone in some of these fucking zones.>Exploring act 3's main jungle area>Run all the way around the map>Don't see the exit I need>Realize that I missed a tiny corner on the other side and the entrance was so barely hidden behind the fog that one step towards it reveals itShit like that happens to me multiple times every time I go through the campaign. Making it so you can more easily figure out where to go in the big ass maps will save a lot of time. they could also MAKE THE MAPS SMALLER YA KNOW.
>>738475340i don't like it. i'm spamming ability keys on "qwerf" and i don't have enough fingers to also "wasd" for movement.
>>738476915>skip to 1.0 without finishing game so you can start charging money for updatesLike they've not done for poe1 for 15 years? The game will literally go free to play after it launches.
>>738476915>>skip to 1.0 without finishing game so you can start charging money for updatesare you retarded? ggg has never done that
>>738476915PoE is f2p lmao, are you retarded? They make their money by filling the game with so much fucking shit you have to spend $30-60 in stash tabs, but you get all the content for free forever.
>>738476915Blizzard shills are projecting as usual. Just a reminder that the super cool skill rework they added in the latest update for Diablo 4 requires you to buy a $40 DLC if you want to use it.
>>738476915
>>738477210I started playing one to figure out what skills I wanna use, early monk is buns lmao you'd think Ice Strike/Tempest Flurry would be level 1 skills but nope, level 14.
>>738477897>Grim Yawn GODS are still waiting for DLCANY DAY NOW
>>738477962it goes without saying they lostplayer count dropped 92% 4 weeks into the new season>hurr that happens to every arpglast season poe2 dropped 70% and still had more players than le's peak
>>738468896>NEW HUGE ENDGAME PATCH THAT TOOK +6 MONTHS TO MAKEThe endgame rework "just barely" missed 0.4, so in other words they've actually been working on it since 0.3 shipped, in August last year. Ten months.
>>738477279most people don't remember this but original poe didn't even have assigned drops. it was like d2. meaning very early on, pub grouping was a pita since fags would do nothing but leech drops off the floor instantly while others were busy killing shit. it was stupid af and i still recall arguing with retards in the forums about it. ggg had a lot of good ideas but they were completely retarded on other ones as well. quit poe 1 long ago and only started with poe 2 since they finally added in async trading.
Can someone explain to me why player movement and literally everything is linked to a server in this game?When their shitty servers have ping spikes, why the fuck does my game stutter when I'm playing alone?I have played a lot of always online games and none of them do this. Hell even multiplayer pvp games don't stutter at high ping.
>>738478456because then you can get bad desync and that was even worse when it was still a thing.
>>738478456go to settings and turn off lockstep and see how long you last retard
>>738478213>game is designed around you buying the expansionShocking
>>738451620>casually look around the subreddit for this game>50% of posts are just nerds geeking out about big number on item from gamble mechanics>the other 50% are "check out my build">literally every single video looks the exact same regardless of whether its a bow, qstaff, mace, xbow, etc>just running at 500x speed with seizure inducing flashes of RGB explosions that instantly kill everything without having to stopI genuinely, GENUINELY don't understand the appeal for this game. It advertises as a "build your own guy" with methodical combat when it is literally just numbers porn with zoom zoom gameplay.
>>738451620>no swordsSeriously, how?
>>738478671>I DoN't UnderStaND the AppeAL Go back.
>>738452601Why are you in this thread if you've never played an arpg before?
>>738478671>just running at 500x speed with seizure inducing flashes of RGB explosions that instantly kill everything without having to stopThis is what gets me about all the swordcels. The sword builds are just going to be the same zoomzoom explosion slop as every other build.>>738478789He's right though. And you defending it literally makes you reddit.
>>738478636Diablo 4 still feels like a free-to-play game, often even more so than Poe 2.
>>738478730why are you twitch chat retards so obsessed with swords anyway?you're literally get 10 times more content that swords would ever addjesus christ imagine being so retarded that you cry about the biggest patch yet, because you didn't get the little thing you imagined you'd get
>>738478671>>738478892Samefag redditor
>>738478671The people bragging about their builds are of course going to be zooming around blowing the screen up at the speed of sound, because it takes a lot of work and currency to get to that point so is worth bragging about. Nobody's going to be interested in seeing someone walking around killing white mobs with a four hit combo. When you have your survivability sorted, the only thing you can measure your build's quality with in any objective sense is its clear speed. That's simply how the genre is.
>>738478671you figured it out, it's a trap for midwit autists to make themselves feel clever while doing nothingthere truly is nothing more despicable than arpg mongs
>>738478971>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
>>738478671Your autism is inferior. The power of number go up cannot be denied.
>>738479036>It's not me! Nice try tourist.
>>738479036this but unironically
>>738478612Only possible in poe1.I have no idea how they are planning to manage going full f2p when their servers can't even handle early access.
>>738478990>spending 18 hours a day for 6 weeks hitting 1 button over and over is worth bragging about
>>738479217Yes.
>>738479217>seething because other people enjoy games you don't
>>738479287How did he win so hard?
>>738452601>Endgame is such a shitty concept normalized by zoomers and autists.I agree with you. The concept of "starting the game at endgame" was made popular with blizzard. And their drones just ate it up.
how well does poe2 run on linux
>seething about endgame updates>the endgame updates are literally more campaign like content with quests, zones, bosses etcWhat are you fags even mad about? Do you even know? Endgame currently is just obscure grinding for mats to fight a boss and nothing is ever explained. With this update everything is streamlined with quests, dialog, cutscenes and bosses and new zones. It's literally an extra campaign.
>>738480267Some retard is seething about arpg in all arpg threads.It's shartyshit concern trolling.
im priced outtheres way too much stuff i have no idea how to do it or how to advance my gearthe rf staff is gonna be extraordinary overpriced and gates behind scalpers
>>738480267arpg autism makes sonic and factorio look like call of dutyi saw a thread complaining about how the player technically doesn't get the killing blow on the final act bosses because either an npc does it or they join your team and how this "ruins the entire story"
>>738480468>theres way too much stuff i have no idea how to do it>get to end game>pick the direction that seems cool to youfags like you are why yellow tape exists
>>738480468just farm it yourself RETARD
>>738478671nah you just don't GET it man. Starting from nothing and meticulously crafting your build piece by piece over 100+ hours to get to the place where you're fully optimizing your mapping/bossing loadouts and just mulching shit is unbelievably satisfying
>>738452601But the campaign is an awful slog...
>>738480597?>>738480601i dont know where thats the problem
>>738480664that's why they're streamlining it...?
>>738480527I mean, it's not worth making an entire thread about and it doesn't "ruin the entire story" but that's a pretty valid complaint. Jamanra is the worst because Asala spends the entire back half of the fight unconscious and only wakes up in time to kill steal you, then everyone afterwards wanks over how merciful and wise she was to behead him.
>>738480267I don't want retarded ass atlas map.
>people still whining about early access costing 20 dollarshow poor are you?
>>738451620What's the big deal with swords?
>>738480694the preview page literally tells you it's from delirium you fucking DONKEY
>>738481128Swords are gay
>>738480601>just stop working and farm this game 12 hours a day broooookys
>>738481204you have 6 months to farm it before 1.0, sweety
>>738481204Just don't farm for 12 hours bro.If playing video game is so panful for you just post on /v/ instead.Playing video games is retarded and time wasting.
>>738480267Yeah, I dunno, anyone whining about the campaign whining about this is stupid. As you said, this is literally more content than the campaign itself lmao. It is a full post-game story.However, my problems with the reveals are more stuff like:>Spoiling everything for no reason (kinda minor, but still)>Every end game mechanic is feeling homogenized when they all have a pinnacle boss, all have a very similar questline, and all just generally follow a similar progression>Infinite Atlas is still around. No ability to at least disable some of the worst layouts.>Currency bloat out the ass, 100+ new runes and socketables and all this other stuff. This is not even at release yet.>No new class/weapon sucks>Power creep upon power creep when we still are missing a bunch of classes (Maces feel more and more outdated by the day)>These end game quests look like they take a long time and you potentially have to do them every seasonOVERALL my feelings are generally positive and I think it looks good. I just think it is gonna be really rough at launch and take the next 6 months to polish.
i took the first week of june off of work for this so it better be good
>>738481324>We don't want to spoil what's inside the meteor ;)>spider boss that's clearly inside the meteor shows up like 5 seconds later
The fight against the undead sand king is simply scripted very poorly. Here's how it plays out>you're fighting the giant pillar of bones & flesh that constitutes the muslim skeleton king dude>the chick is knocked out after the train phase where it de-rails, and she's KO'd on the ground>the player fights the skeleton pillar man and kills him in combat>--ACKSHULLY-->insert cinematic here>--the human slaver's queen, she stood up during that and she chops his head off while you just stand there with your dick in your handThe scene has to twist itself around to make it so she killsteals from the player. like if his skeleton was just crawling along the sand still trying to fight maybe it would make sense for her to give the coup de grace?
>1.0 releases>swords are finally ingame>warrior can't use themlmao
>>738480954>but that's a pretty valid complaintNo, it actually isn't a valid complaint and a full and complete lore explanation is given. The only problem is the cutscene is awkward due to him stabbing himself and sitting there for an hour if you just don't talk to her.Just change the cutscene so instead of her being knocked out she is held behind some electricity prison. You kick his ass, he falls down, she gets out and gives a speech about giving him a warrior's death and then cuts off his head. The exile nods approvingly, of course.
>>738451620They really out to miss their 1.0 launch date by a year
>>738481382It really sucks. I think the reveal of the new ritual boss probably would have been actually chilling if we didn't know about it. But I get that they also have to hype people up.Nintendo does this shit too. Where they are so desperate to hype up a game they release a 'top 10 things about this game!" and like 7 of them are major spoilers lmao.
>>738481204Bosses are guaranteed to drop one item and none of these new unique items have any random stats so I doubt they’ll be too rare.
>>738481408Why?
>>738481591I think he just means that mace skills don't work with swords. Warrior can equip a staff or bow if he wants.
>>738451620WHERE ARE THE FUCK SWORDS GGGWHAT DO YOU MEAN WAIT FOR AN END OF THE YEAR TO GET FUCKINGBASICPOINTYSHARPMETALSTICKSupdate is looking rad ngl, but really, no duelist or barbarian and no swords until fucking 1.0. No templar even
>>738481673
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>>738481324>However, my problems with the reveals are more stuff like:>Spoiling everything for no reason (kinda minor, but still)yea them spoiling literally everything with these reveals is getting kinda old. they must know that people arnt gonna just log in to replay the campaign again!
didn't read, are spear skills still tied to parry? (lmao at the retard who designed that)
>>738480954She is a powerfull woman and do reverse Perseus pose, be in hand with the times and ignore killsteal after exhausting battle with randombullshitgo attacks
>make an end-game league>players who only care about the campaign quit when they reach maps>players who only care about the end-game quit before act 3 because the campaign is such a torturous slogGreat way to make nobody happy
>>738481395>so she killsteals from the playerloreletAsala is trying to become divine, which requires her to be worshipped by many. She intends to conquer/"unify" the other caravans so they worship her, and by killstealing Jamanra with an honorable death, she's the only Sekhema to acknowledge the Faridun's legitimacy in generations in an attempt to get THEM to worship her as well. It's working, when you get to the epilogue Risu is basically kissing the ground Asala walks on despite Asala treating her like a shit-covered mongrel.I get why you'd think it's some girlboss shit because of most other games in the industry at the moment but it's a necessary moment to make Asala a way more interesting character down the line.
I think they made the atlas screen more zoomed out which fixed my biggest problem with it
>>738481923What? Spear was never 'tied' to parry. Spear needed frenzy charges and parry was the early game way to get them. They fixed that by giving an early game skill that gets you frenzies so you don't have to parry.Fwiw they did heavily buff parrying.
>>738480954>Sin does literally nothing>shows up and kill steals the Count>don't kill Doryani>don't kill Tavakai
>>738482026People don't read lore, which I get, but they just think it is feminism or something instead of just asking if there is a reason for it lol.
>>738482074I heavily buffed this pile of shit but at the end of the day it's still a pile of shit
>>738477618Sad but true.
>>738482081>Sin does literally nothingThat's his thing. Except for Kitava, where he did nothing but get grabbed out of the air twice.
>>738481718By the way I was mildly pissed when I played poe1 champion in the league, bought him sick fullplate armour mtx league pack and in the endgame was forced to use splintering steel from the distance and run from the enemies like the little caster bitch. And yea, I really tried to make him tanky and hard hitting in melee, but never got myself to enough-to-stand-my-ground numbers
>>738482156It actually is a half way decent defensive button that can be pressed during the campaign at least. Unfortunately the speed of endgame does make it moot. But as I said, spear is totally fine and you can get frenzies with the new skill they added.
>>738451620I finished the whole stream. At this point I think Jonathan just hates monks and actively does things to monkey paw anyone that likes them
>>738482267Funny, I played a smite champ this league and had like 100k armor/ev, like 40-something fortify, spell suppress, 65/65 block, etc. I was able to sit there and tank mfers.
I love this one anon who says something wrong and then just starts randomly shit-talking the game when people point out that he's wrong. It just makes me like Poe 2 even more. I wonder if he’s Poe 1 faggot or Diablo 4 tranny
>>738482280Why? The new ascendancy for them looks pretty good. The new gloves + hollow palm should give good damage and then you can just rune up your body for free stats and idols and shit.Unless the Q&A talked about a nerf, I did not watch the Q&A and it was like 2 and half hours long lol.
>>738481128The big deal with swords are not swords themselves, it's that the absence of the absolute most basic class fantasy in the game speaks volumes of the readiness of the remaining 4 (FOUR) melee classes that are yet to be implemented. The fact that they are absent from EA means that they might come out undercooked, unbalanced and will need to go through the same extensive player feedback before they are brought up to par to what's already in the early access. It might be years before all the missing classes are on the same level of polish as currently available ones. There will be missing ascendancies, there will be lackluster uniques and you will experience balance hell as they keep powercreeping the endgame before everything's in the game
>>738482215at least he was in the fightDistracting Kitava is usefulAlso friendly reminder that the seed of the beast was used to kill Kitava and was reduced to ashes afterwards so it shouldn't even exist in PoE2
>>738482081Wolf was literally at the last breath when he put him from his misery. No grand posing like he killed him solo while in reality he had an important meeting with the desert dust 70% of the fight
god I fucking hate /v/'s overall opinion of this game but I keep entering these threads and getting mad
>>738452601>Ugh, grug just do campaign over and over, people doing endgame stupid, why not just do samesame forever?
>>738451620>tranny tourist doesn't care about by far the most important part of any ARPG (endgame)Lmao lol
>>738482525I have 0 worries about the new classes. Why are you worried about them at all? Every time they add a new class it has the most shit out of any of them. The 4 remaining classes are probably gonna be the most overpowered and ridiculous out of them all.I am more concerned about the power creep creating a cycle of reworks of every class to the point that every league is some new class/weapon rework to make it the most powerful one yet.
I loved poe2 0.1-0.3 as it didnt have the bloat poe1 hasBut thats now over isnt it
>>738482280Idk, I finally can play monk without elemental/chaos shit. Totally will roll as one this league
>>738482625>OpinionMost of the people post about the game do not have an 'opinion' because they don't know anything about the game. They're just here to spam about D4, Trannies, Last Epoch, PoE1, etc. It is just shitposting and spamming.
>>738477665>shelves full of nothing but nintendo shit>and then randomly Grim DawnNani?
>>738482538Nah, since Kitava does the beam-shooting-orb skill after they grab and their life can't be decreased below a threshold while they're grabbing. So if anything Sin and Innocence were on Kitava's side in that conflict.And you might say it was the InnoSin double kamehameha which killed Kitava, but cmon. They did jackshit. The Exile killed all them gods.
>>738482827I meant more narratively than mechanically
>>738482702That to be said, I planned to go as the duelist with the swords, because they had one real melee weapon for the 2 years now and it seemed to be retarded to hold on swords longer
>>738476127Gotta wonder why they keep focusing on adding shit like this when there's shitton a missing skill and weapon
>>738475340it's shit made for console players
Is console performance still ass? I got to the area in the past with the pyramids and couldn’t deal with it anymore, might have to suck it up and look at computers…
>>738482689not really. It seems like a lot but everything post campaign is far more streamlined.>fortress is a copy of poe atlas and where you get your points>infinite atlas is gone at the beginning, everything has a fixed location>quests to guide you through each league mechaniceach league also focuses on specific gear so you know where to go if you want to focus farm or craft a specific item
Is D4 still better?
>>738475340Literally the only thing I wanted out of PoE1
>>738482538>Also friendly reminder that the seed of the beast was used to kill Kitava and was reduced to ashes afterwardsI don't remember the Beast having a "seed" in PoE1 at all let alone using it to kill Kitava. Sin being in possession of a Beast embryo that he just keeps for no reason at all in 2 despite the disaster potential is still is kind of dumb regardless.
>>738483161D4 at some point was better than something?..
>>738483231
>>738483271better than poe2 yeah
>>738483231divinity in poe is just as bad if not worse than corruption so carrying around a failsafe in case things get out of control wasn't the worst idea.Still don't think sin is entirely on our side though and may be the final boss along with the beast.
>>738483357The real question we should all be asking is "Where is Innocence?"
>>738482525>and you will experience balance hell as they keep powercreeping the endgame before everything's in the gameThis is why having an endgame monetization system before all content is even in the game is massively retarded. Any class or weapon not in the game by 0.5 will fall squarely into one of two camps when they finally come, which is either going to be broken as all hell, or utterly worthless garbage, and you can bet your fucking ass that if anything comes out broken in the player's favor it WILL get nerfed immediately, but if it comes out worthless it won't get touched at all.
>>738470206Crafting should be limited to improving the rolls already on the item and adding sockets.
>>738483357>divinity in poe is just as bad if not worse than corruptionNo, anon... Tukohama was one of the good guys...
Free weekend status?>>738479957Bretty good I used some random YAML I found off google and installed it through Lutris and had no issues aside from that one season where stacked MTX sound effects would lag the piss out of everyone but that was also happening to my friend on win10
>>738482538>>738483314He made one once, he could just make another one at any time, this time with a failsafe that won't let an asshole with a Satan complex use it to remake reality into his own personal hell.
>>738469518New expedition have Delve vibes
>>738483857All engame is now just delve. They finally realised that it was superior mechanic and decided to make it the centrepiece of Poe 2.
>>738483135Yes really there's way too much including over 100 runesWay too many ways to get everything
>>738483941why can't I delve to ascend
>>738483732Why would he get mad when the countess tries to make the beast do its job then?
as a potential new ("returning", finished campaign once 10 years ago) player, the stream was just a bunch of buzzwords they showed like 30 different systems with little to no explanation, absolute clusterfuck the build import thing is cool, but it should've been a copy paste string not a file
>>738451620Everytime I created a new character I would always quit in early maps because the endgame was so boring.Hopefully this patch changes that but I don't know if I can stomach doing act 3 again.
>>738485781Game was a lot more manageable but its bloated to the top now sadlyDont try to play poe1 now, its absolutely insane the amount of systems and items you have to memorize
>>738485781D4 might be more your speed, unc
Hilariously bloated, mechanically poor, not fun.
>>738451620>they are focusing on the fucking grinding filler content and pandering to the chinese and the no life losersfirst arpg? first time on earth?
>>738485781>finished campaign once 10 years agomust be a bait, you quite literally didn't played the game. Of fucking course you don't understand anything
With the campaign still not feature complete, I don't see how you could be a fan of poe2 without liking its endgame.
>>738485781>If you don't know shit the words are meaninglesswow incredible revelation, as a followup question, how have you managed to live this long without eating the tasty chemicals under the sink?
>>738486098poe1 plays like shit don't blame me for not playing it more also, they obviously want new players in but don't try at all to explain things
>>738486627They obviously want new players but you aren't the target audience for the stream specifically. It is for people with some knowledge of how things are looking to see how things will be. You wouldn't claim that airlines aren't looking to fill seats if you stumbled into a lecture on mechanical differences between old and new airframes, would you? And it would be equally ridiculous to believe that they should start those lectures with a full recap of all foundational knowledge required to understand it.
D4 won
>>738451620It's EA, you're not entitled to any of that. If you wanted a fully fleshed out game you should have waited.
>>738471859They're either tied to specific uniques and will be shit or you have to use that faggy ward system
>EndgameLooks amazing, aside from the missing weapons and classes it's exactly what I was hoping for. Take the existing "league" mechanics and expand them, give them depth and a presence on the atlas that isn't just map nodes. I still need to see more QoL features for the atlas map and I still wonder what the gameplay is going to be like once you get into the infinite portion beyond the starting zone.>CampaignGreat, could use a little shaving in act 3 but other than that it's good to go. I'm glad they aren't giving us act 5/6 in early access because I'd like for at least something to not get spoiled early.>Weapons and classes missingI see this as not a .5 issue but an issue with all of the patches leading up to this point. They better have most of them ready for 1.0. I still think tying skills to weapon types is a bad idea, every skill category feels a little empty, every weapon probably needs 2x the amount it has or they have to allow cross weapon skill use again.>b-butYou just want to run the same map over and over for 8 hours a night with the game on your second monitor and are upset that they are trying to add meaning and enjoyment to content instead of people speeding through it like a zombie.
>>738487123EA should be free by law
>>738452437I got bored of this game before even making it to "endgame".Like you expect me to play through this slow, easy to play runescape clone twice before I get to "endgame"?
>>738451620D4 won
>>738487209The release product is free. EA is paid for. As has always been.
>>738487209your mother's loose ass pussy should be free but she's still slanging that worn out gunt by the truckstop
>>738487016>but you aren't the target audience for the stream specifically a big mistake promo streams/videos are what potential players seeyou satisfy the hardcore part of your playerbase by doing deep analysis sections later on
>>738487209>>738487408fukin rekt lmao
What is about Poe 1 and 2 attracting the biggest and worst autists on 4chan bro?
>>738487456dog come to terms with the fact that not everything has to be for the entirely uninitiated layperson. At some point you have to concede that there is some level of foundational knowledge required. For instance, every stream can't be started with an educational section teaching the required English language mastery to comprehend it.
>>738451620>>no new class>>no swordscome the fuck on
>>738487584It's the genre in general. You have to have a tolerance for doing the same thing over and over. That skews towards a certain demographic of people.
>>738487651>everything >and it's just promo video being palatable
>>738487651Have you seen the D4 streams? They have to remind everyone that when a leauge ends they will have to make a new char to play the new leauge.
>>738487456It's PoE not Animal Crossing you fucking retard, stop trying to have bad faith arguments
>>738487852>everything is supposed to be made for me specifically but I don't know anything so anyone talking should be in perma goo goo ga ga mode and nothing specific can be shown or I won't understand
>>738451620>our biggest update everx to doubt>So instead of finishing and polishing the main game the campaign isn't the main game, people play thousands of hours in endgame in both poe 1 and 2the campaign is an afterthought to the primary playerbase
>>738452601>the campaign is more than enough to enjoy a build. Once you're finished, just start a new playthrough to try a new build.I can see you have never played beyond act 1 of this game or its predecessor
I prefer to play after a few weeks when everything is inflated. Why do so many people like playing on day 1 fresh?
looks good to me500+ hours in poe 2 so far played most the leaguesGGG knows what players like me want, which is more stuff to do at endgame
>>738488105only 20.2% of players got halfway through the campaign for poe1. For most people, the campaign is the entirety of the game that they see. I see why some people would chafe at that part not being as polished as it should be if it's all that most people are going to see.That being said, it's clear that the money is primarily made from players who play far beyond that point, and so it makes sense that they'd want to keep those players playing as long as possible.
What do you guys think of my boots :)
>>738488614They only go up to 30% in PoE1?
>>738488614>entire class ascendency on a single item slotpoe 1 is funny now
>>738487584>PoE1 autists that hate change>F2P players>Blizzard fanboys>General Tortanic fanbase who want games to fail
>>738488487>only 20.2% of players got halfway through the campaign for poe1made up stat, didn't read the rest of your whiny garbage
>>738488483nah more doesn't fix anything. Once you can 1 shot uber arbiter the game is over. There is no true pinnacle content or difficult maps to actually slow down the gameplay.
>>738488872stupid commentpoe 1 thrived and made money for a long time by adding more how about you take a second and think about the shit you type before you post it
>>738488614Those boots cost more then most people builds>>73848876335% that mod is a vailed mod its technically giving 41%
>follow build guide for broken/exploit build>buy all the gear with RMT divines>1 shot the endgame boss>'oops guess thats it, the game is over for me. too easy ggg better focus on the campaign instead' as always, SSF solves the problems that retards like this make for themselves, allowing for an organic sense of progression and meaningful strategy and interaction with endgame content to take placeSSF makes your boss kills mean something, since you actually had to work up to it yourself, even if you did follow a build guide
>>738489135>Don't do any of that>Play the game>Have funIt's that simple.
>>738489135I'll never play SSF because I don't have the patience to learn crafting. I'll just let some dipshit fuse an orb of binding to the runeboard and affix the resulting brambletone to the focus before casting it into the Well of Souls to roll for one of 47 Kulgandric modifiers which must then be nullified and combobulated into their component mods to finally dip into the baptismal fluid which puts +4 spell levels on the final craft, and then I'll go into his shop and pay him three exalts for it and move on with my day.
>>738485781Literally relax. All you do is follow the quests. They tell you what to do. I agree, GGG talks it up too much and makes it confusing. They give a name to everything. It is literally:>Find the mechanic in a map randomly>NPC comes out and gives you a quest>Quest tells you where to go on the Atlas, who to kill, what to do, etc>Just get passive points as you do it>Pick up whatever lootThat is it. Just follow the quests. I don't know why they have to be like AND THEN COLLECT THE FRAGMENTS OF THE ESSENCE OF THE PROGENTITOR KALANDRA MIRROR SHARD INFUSION AND BRING IT TO THE ZENITH PINNACLE SANTIFICATION UBERMENSCH CHAMBER TO CREATE THE NEW PINNACLE BOSS, MECHA HITLER 0.5
>remembering when I first started playing poe 1>remembering how my PSU shat the bed as soon as a breach opened and how I had to replace it after much troubleshooting>remembering getting poe2 and buying a beefy computer for it, start playing it for hours>remembering how 2 of the ramsticks melted because of being too close to the cpupoe is responsible for all my hardware faults
>>738489489poe 2 crafting is simple, and part of the gameby refusing to interact with it, you create the sense of shallowness/meaningless that eventually drives you awayto gain a fully appreciation for a game, you should interact with all/most of the available systems
>>738489585>poe2 crafting is simplyNo it isn't. It requires knowing affix weightings and how to force mods with special currencies most players don't know exist.If you are talking about auging some shit blue item in the campaign, that isn't crafting, that's just gambling and almost always ends in a dogshit outcome. Items aren't meant to be used in that way since there are very few beneficial outcomes to slapping a random currency on some shit campaign item. It almost never results in a faster campaign time. The system is bad
I'll stick to D4
>>738489135Buddy i havent even killed arbiter in trade league before i get bored and quit
I like PoE1 but I always give up because the time investment per character is rough.
this game has all these dozens of different mechanics and systems but in the end none of it matters because 99% of players just copy and modify what the 1% of turbo autists shit out after a night of theory craftingnot even the loot/gambling aspect is fun because it's a live service game and it's balanced around tradingeven eve online is more of a game than poe at this point
>>738490515What if you just don't do it? The game is actually quite well-balanced and most of the skills are quite playable.
>>738473816>SSFI mean that's not solving the issue, that's just sideling it, its not envy driving the discussion here.Firstly, the game is meant to revolve around trade, I'm pretty sure its designed with trade in mind from the ground up. Trade is meant to smooth the experience for a user in the progression of his character, whether it be trading for items that he needs to upgrade to incrementally or availability of input items used for crafting/keys, which we trade and exchange in certain cases like, for example, where we may have excess amounts of one currency due to the content we farmed and we can still have access to the currency of other leagues through facilitating that trade. Taking that away because certain players in bugmen society incentivizes winning/cheating/optimization at all costs is pretty lame in my opinion and hard to argue for.Now for the original point, there's a level where its unreasonable to expect a normal build to engage with the level of difficulty brought on by "juicing" content and come out ahead. You brought up bosses which I think is not really where the main issue lies, even though I don't think you have people out there doing 10-20 minute boss fights (pretty sure they're just deleting bosses in seconds to deal with the difficulty). Its moreso the fact that league content like delirium, vaal temples, abyss pits, etc, require you to have (in my opinion) those kinds of builds to run them in a way that's rewarding drops, even moreso in SSF because you can't rely on trade to get over a hurdle. Coupled with the fact that if those builds are setting the standard for HOW we need to achieve the level of power needed to complete higher difficulty content, its a detriment to the versatility and further sterilization of class identity of PoE builds as everyone is funneled to only meta builds that can even do them effectively. Which also skews the developer's expectation of build performance in how they design future content.
>>738490515>other people use guidesso what? their loss really, I started playing pretty recently and I'm having a great time figuring out builds myself. the way I do it is I'll go blind until I hit a wall, then I'll look up the build I was going for and see how better players are doing it, and learning from them for the future. I only just now did that for my holy hammers build at level 95 because I kept dying before I could hit 96, and now I know how timeless jewels work (sort of) and how to build much bulkier on this setup. eventually once I'm much more familar with what uniques are good, and how to build properly I will no longer need to do this. it's fun learning
>>738491523This anon gets it. Even if your build isn’t great, you learn something new every time, and next time will be better. Especially when it comes to Poe 2 which doesn’t really have power creep mechanics like cluster jewels.
The true patrician league start strategy is to begin on hardcore trade and then move to HCSSF once you get bored of accessible loot or die.
>>738489004>t17 maps kiled the game!>GROUNZ LOOTretard
>>738491462>Firstly, the game is meant to revolve around tradeComplete drivel, you can't balance around trade because it's a constantly moving target. The game is designed to be played with the drops available because of course it fucking is and the people at the front of progression at the start of a season are primarily using the drops on the ground and things they craft themselves You've convinced yourself that trade is expected because YOU expect to be able to buy a headstart and skip the actual progression of the videogameDiablo-like "players" really are the fucking dregs of the earth
>>738493008not that guy but async trade has smoothed out all the wrinkles of campaign leveling. It's hard to ignore when a 1ex weapon is going to out dps anything and everything you're going to find yourself outside of rare instances.It's not as egregious in poe 1, but it really does feel like they're pushing you to trade in 2 to have a better experience. Played through the campaign countless number of times on hardcore so I know what I'm talking about.
>>738493008absolute retard tier take. All of the drop rates are balanced around the fact that people trade. As stated by the developers numerous times
Patch looking good. Will do a nice SSF run or two. This game is so much better than PoE its not even funny.
>>738494097ritual being a target for uniques and the genesis tree returning will make ssf feel so much better. I haven't bothered touching it in poe 2 yet but this patch might change that
>>738452601Glad to see some sane people still play arpgs. People crying out for endless endgame slop sicken me
>>738494097I need to watch a crafting guide or something, I rely so much on the marketboard for endgame
didn't care for this rollslop
>>738452601>just play the boring ass campaign over and over bro it's funwhat the fuck is wrong with you
GGG has been dead since 2021. D4 is better as well.
>>738495084no one wants it to be endless. A big focus for this patch, coming from the game directors themselves, is having clear defined goals and knowing when it's time to quit the league. They want you to enjoy your time post campaign and return for the next patch once you get bored.Playing this game and doing nothing but the campaign when so much of the meat comes after it is utterly retarded, sorry.
Crazy that people just hand developers $30 for the most boring game in existence.
>>738470134Especially in Poop2 you basically teleport from t1 to t15 maps effortlessly and rapidly and it all feels the same. Funny how there's no point in PoopExcrement 2 other than a cash grab.>great opportunity to finally move away from the ugly jenga tower that's Poop1>hmm nevermind we're just doing the same thing all over again as patch 0.1 was zoom zoom 1-shot screens endlessly
>>738494091You can't balance around "trade" midwit, the player market starts empty and inflates drastically over time so there is no static power level to tune around. As mentioned by the other guy >>738493942 the state of the market eventually reaches the point where 1EX buys a mid progression player a weapon which is better than anything he could find himself, and the power of that 1EX weapon keeps growing as further progressed players dump their shit. You can't balance around that, you are pretending that you aren't cheating when the market carries you are GGG are indulging you because their business model is based around Indians farming for RMT
>>738496624I like that you can tailor your endgame difficulty though. Having a bad day and just want to mindlessly mulch shit and turn your brain off? Run a bunch of t1 maps. Want to challenge yourself and test the strength of your build? Run a bunch of t15 maps with modifiers. You can really make your own fun
>>738496827don't reply to poop posters. They're all terminally ill.
>>738495783Why 2021? I quit at the start of 2020 and the game and studio started to wither away when they sold out to Tencent.
>>738452437>we have to make sure the end game doesnt end... for the people who beat the game that hasnt even been given a middle part yet
okay but where are all the classes and ascendencies Johnathan? They said the campaign is done so it's time for 1.0. this is the scummiest shit I've seen in a while and I like playing the game.
i wont lie the new diablo 4 season looks genuinely good. now i just wish i wasnt stuck on a fucking macbook. i gotta get rid of this thing.
I like how they only way D4 fags get a thread to stick here is to use a Poe thread. Really good look guys
>>738497557Have you looked at D4 recently? It's like letting someone stay in your basement for a bit while they're on hard times. It's not ideal but it's humane.
>>738497412thought so too but it's still d4 at the end of the day. Skill tree was hardly as transformative as advertised. Loot is still beyond fucking bland and boring. War plans hardly changed anything. Story didn't bother doing anything interesting. Music was nice.I can have fun with d4 for a couple of days. I can play poe 2 for months.
BROS WE ARE SO BACK
>>738451620>ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME ENDGAME MUH ENDGAMEPoE fags literally asked for this.
>>738498076I asked for this
>>738497971>streamer playing hardcoreof course the gameplay is gonna autistic man
>>738452601Maybe if you're a girl.
>>738497971do hardcore players really
>>738499281of course, this type of gameplay was the main argument against pause being added to either game. of course I don't think everyone else should be punished with the removal of the pause because of the few who will abuse the thing in the hardcore ladder
>>738478963Swords are cool faggot. Go get fucked by your dad, tranny.
>>7384992810.1 was a different beast but quin is functionally retarded.
>>738464978lol it doesnt. So many got taken for the vision ride. Path of cucks 2
>>738478963>why are you twitch chat retards so obsessed with swords anyway?duelist is like the most popular melee class in PoE1, so it's not too surprising that people want to play it in 2 especially with the lack of melee classes in the game as is. and it IS disappointing that we aren't getting a class, and 1.0 is launching without every class. these are normal things to be bummed about, I think. that said I do think the endgame will be improved.
why are poe 2 detractors so obsessed with trannies, cuckolding, and poop?
>>738500116They're eastern europeans.
>doubled down on the infinite atlasand just like that PoE2 died
>poe 1 turns to shit>poe 2 instantly shitguys why are you obsessed with shit?!
It's free
>>738452601Truth bombedThis is what good ARPGs like D2 do. When you're done just play again as a new class and experience it in a new way from a fresh new perspective
>>738500215But its static now until you beat the pinnacles which is T16+, once you have essentially "Beat the game" it becomes infinite.
>>738500215>doubled down>beginning of endgame has set landmarks, no randomizing until you progress further out>fortress is poe atlas-lite with self contained nodes to earn atlas pointsthis is practically a 180
>>738451620I don't care about PoE2. I want to but i don't. I just want more PoE1. Something about PoE2 is so soul destroying. Atleast in PoE1 i can go fast. The whole thing is like that Ronnie comic where he's playing a VN and the screen goes black showing him as a huge fucking loser. All the down time in PoE2 reminds you that you are wasting your life and its fucking over.The patch itself looks fine but PoE2 already has limited build diversity so i'm not sure how attractive the patch is when it hasn't added anything new... atleast anything new you can play at level 1, all the new shit is max level stuff
>>738452791So they're gonna add the missing Chapters, Classes and all the Ascendencies by the end of the year?
>>738502295>>738452897>>738452791in other words they're 'ending early access' so they can monetize it (as if they weren't already) even though it's not feature complete. They want that hot creamy injection of f2players buying cosmetics and tabs.>>738500942>The patch itself looks fine but PoE2 already has limited build diversity so i'm not sure how attractive the patch is when it hasn't added anything new... atleast anything new you can play at level 1, all the new shit is max level stuffsums up why i'm mad.
>>738502295act 5 and 6 are a given. They've mentioned a while back that they'd be fine with launching 1.0 without all classes.I'm expecting the full campaign, 3-4 new weapons including swords, at least 2 new classes with all remaining ascendancies for existing classes, plus a ton of skill gems and other quality of life improvements
>>738502295Not at all, actually. PoE2 is going be a fully released, officially "done" game, and it will be so without swords.
>>738502574That's retarded; but then D4 released without a sword n shield class, so I guess that's just the current state of ARPGs these days.
>>738500116their entire sense of "humor" is molded by 4chan
>>738502648>D4 released without a sword n shield classIt did? I thought this whole NO SWORDS was something unique to this which would explain people's hangup with it since its so utterly bizarre that a medieval fantasy RPG would release without having swords as a weapon.
>>738451620>filler contentthe endgame of PoE 1 and 2 are the real campaigns you mong, both have defined end goals for you to pursue and are not le filler grinder chinkslop like your beloved D4
>>738502648Nice try CHEESEBALL. The necromancer has had shields since season zero.
>>738451620Can I make my character big in this game like I can in PoE1
>>738502851The necromancer was the only class that could use them, and they were just stat sticks in his case. Sword n Board knight is the goto first class for most players and they didn't even bother to add it lol.
>>738463326Why no swords tho ?
>>738493008I guess reading comprehension is beyond you but whatever, my fault for expecting more of retards on this forum lol
>>738503831>forumCan we just kill all redditors/tourists already?
>>738452601How do you even have a "build" in campaign when half the shit is locked till you're basically done with it? You don't even get the majority of the interesting unlocks for spirit till you're basically done with campaign.
>>738496629what the fuck do you mean you cant balance around trade you fucking ignoramus? GGG changes drop rates at will at all times during a fucking league. They tailor ther drop rates specifically to enforce trade and make sure people grind to get things they want
>>738465301No because D4 was explicitly shit on by everyone for not having a coherent endgame. GGG learned from them and realized if they focused on campaign and classes only they would also get shit on no matter how polished the campaign experience was.They even outright stated it in an interview, where they realized they needed to develop and tune the endgame the moment they released it to players, and the majority of complaints they've gotten from the playerbase have been related to endgame in poe2.
>>738502851>without having swords as a weaponit did have swords, just not shieldsNO SWORDS, axes, daggers, flails etc, is uniquely PoE2
>>738504380That's a false equivilence though; because in PoE2 every weapon is basically a class with its own unique moveset, whereas every weapon behaves identically in Diablo for the most part.
>>738504550>in PoE2 every weapon is basically a class with its own unique movesetthat's nice that you typed up all that verbiage because there still isn't a sword class, an axe class, a dagger class, etc. in PoE2
>>738451620I'll give 0.5 a try because the whole aesthetic of the fortress looks sick and endgame now actually seems meaningful and has purpose. I'm fine with no swords.I wanted to try out Druid for some time. But I'm not exactly looking forward to the sluggish snoozefest that is the start of the game. Passive tree also still needs to be completely reworked; either remove ES from the tree, or put Life nodes into it. Remove or alter the boring "10% more damage" type nodes. POE2's skill tree is so lame compared to POE1. Just back Masteries, some things were just damn near perfect that there's no need to reinvent the wheel.
>>738505091*Just bring back
>>738502295no they already confirmed in the Q&A that 1.0 will not have all classes. I'm willing to bet swords will be the class added in 1.0, though I really want Templar personally and they're probably using flails.
So what's the fucking point of going from 0.5 straight to 1.0? They're not fucking adding five seasons worth of content let alone completing the fucking game so why the fuck are they skipping to 1.0 full release?
>>738451620>focusing on the fucking grinding filler content and pandering to the chinese and the no life losersI mean that's the core of the genre and its audience.If I find / think of a build that seems fun I'll play it, but I always get bored with ARPGs early endgame.
>>738454375both are shit
>>738471859One button zoom spam by end game who cares
>>738482448they ascendency called martial artist has absolutely ZERO to do with martial arts, hollow palm is a weak compromise and we're basically using an invisible quarterstaff, as soon as mark started talking about gloves and the stone fist passive I thought this was it, but no. We still have the worst possible iteration of a monk I've ever seen in a game, were glorified sorcerers with shit melee
>>738451620>here are 3 mechanics that we fucked up but now we fixed them....till the next fix>more convoluted crafting shit nobody cares about>poe shill streamers jizz in their.pants on twitch<"waoow guys look the game we are paid to play looks so cool, pls watch us play it guys">gameplay still dogdhitpass
>>738482026>I get why you'd think it's some girlboss shit because of most other games in the industry at the moment but it's a necessary moment to make Asala a way more interesting character down the line.Except it is a girlboss moment and Asala is not more interesting down the line, the story is dogshit
