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1 year anniversary!
New free stuff for GOTY.
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>>738454658
Final Fantasy could learn from this...
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>frenchies make better jrpgs than the actual japanese now
lmao
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>>738454679
>implying Square Enix will EVER learn the right lesson
Final Fantasy was only good when it was turn-based. No one wants to say it but that's the truth.
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>>738454658
This is your friendly reminder that this AI generated industry plant has already been forgotten.
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>>738455407
Be brown somewhere else.
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>>738455407
Everything is AI generated. You don't think coders on games ask AI? Designers? Planners?
You're too late to be mad at AI.
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>>738454679
E33 is a masterpiece. FF died with the PS2.
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>>738455407
>FG
we're okay
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>>738455236
I liked XII.
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>>738455656
Which was turn-based. You had to wait for the turns but it was still turn-based.
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You're fucking kidding me, has it really been a whole year already? Where the fuck does the time go, man.
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>>738455407
Don't care about AI use.
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>>738455656
>JRPG bad
>JRPG good
So it IS a skin issue?
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>>738455798

Time flies. You have 80ish years on this planet. Did you use the last one for something of value?
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>>738454658
kek sold less than Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green
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>>738454679
FPBP
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>>738455236
They INSIST on tacking on "RPG" mechanics like cooldown and stagger.
If FFXVI were a full on DMC-clone with on-the-fly character switch it would be a much better game.
I played it until I got the second style with Garuda and when I was locked out of combos because of a fucking arbitrary cooldown that doesn't cost MP or any other resource besides my fucking TIME, I closed the game and just watched the cutscenes on youtube. WHICH WAS ANOTHER WASTE OF MY TIME BECAUSE THE STORY IS BORING
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>>738454658
It's still #1 on metacritic
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>>738454658
Never played a worse JRPG.
You have to be braindead to like this game.
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>>738455964
nah those sold 4m
e33 sold 8m
l2read
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>>738454679
Japanese mainstream studios are UNABLE to touch a real subject like in E33 with any kind of sobriety or realness.
They can't even talk about relationships or sex without making it an absurdity. One of the reasons their race is literally dying.
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>>738456194
As opposed to the French who haven't seen a percentile growth in non-dark natives in 10, 20, years?
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>>738456174
Never played a jrpg that's even close to as good as e33, what a game it is, truly beautiful and interesting.
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>>738456194
Not that big of difference between European and Japanese birth rates, some Euro nations are actually worse off than Japan.
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>>738456249
>>738456324
European whites are facing another different issue altogether. It is birth rates and feminism related but very different.
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>>738456263
You are either braindead or never played a real JRPG. Otherwise you would realize E33 is just a ripoff of proper jrpgs but with ugly UE5 graphics, janky controls, forgettable OST, bland characters and a retarded "it was all just a dream"-type story. Truly a low IQ game.
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>>738456389
who cares lmao
the world doesn't care about race
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>>738456194
The thing is that E33 isn’t breaking any new ground when it comes to themes, especially for JRPGs. The game is about grief and loss, which is famously a theme that Mother 3 covered.
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>>738456537
Never read a bronwer post in my life. Indian?
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>>738456194
E33 has no real subjects since nothing that happens in the story matters.
It's basically the writers self-inserts wish fulfillment.
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I love lune
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>>738456618
East-German, so whiter than you will ever be, hombre.
You should try to improve your IQ.
Indians would love E33 since it's made by AI btw
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>>738456539
>the world doesn't care about race
Delusional
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>>738456632
Ever read a book? Post hand.
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>>738456539
I do.
I only like white women.
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>>738455236
>No one wants to say it
Pretty sure we all just lost our voices screaming it for the past 2-3 decades
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>>738456632
One of the most asinine posts I've ever read in this site. And I used to visit /fit/.
Congratulations.
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>>738456632
>E33 has no real subjects since nothing that happens in the story matters.
I don't know, do the dream people have autonomy or are they essentially NPCs in a videogame?
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>>738456194
SE hasn't been a japanese company for a while.
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>>738456789
Prove me wrong but I doubt you would be able to, with your little intellect.
The developers themselves knew that nothing matters, that's why they didn't even bother with proper world building. Every dungeon is just random AI-generated slop without any history behind it.
Even FFX did much better than that.
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>>738456818
They have autonomy until Maelle wins the last fight.
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>>738456879
This. They're an AI company.
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>>738456658
Sciel is better.
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>>738456818
How is that a real subject? Do dream people exist in real life?
Sounds like the theme of a trashy children's movie.
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>>738455407
Now that SE have invested in AI we're no longer using AI as a black mark against E33. Try to keep up with the latest FF cope meta.
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NNOOOOOOO STOP BUYING IT STOP BUYING IT STOP FUCKING BUYING ITT

THIS IS GOING TO KILL FINAL FANTASY WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING????
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>>738457164
Make it turn based and good and we'll talk
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>>738456632
>>738456943
I don't think you understood what the other anon was trying to say in >>738456715 but let me make it clear for you:
Every piece of fictional art, every song, every book and every game you've enjoyed is "nothing that happens."
You undermined your own argument in the very same sentence.
Just because it is fiction, doesn't mean it is not real.
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>>738457164
FF XVII presenting itself as a return to tradition would generate hype. They can even lean into nostalgia marketing like Pokemon does. “Remember those carefree summer nights you spent playing PS2?”
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>>738457276
There is a difference if whats happening in the fictional story matters to the fictional world or not. And E33 is the latter, which is bad. Are you too retarded to understand this concept? There is a reason why most people with a brain dislike the "it was all a dream"-twist. Gustaves death was completely pointless since he was just an imaginary friend. Only a child would be sad about that.
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>>738457276
You think these people are intelligent enough to understand that?
90% of this site is Indians.
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>>738457581
>he is still impressed by the "it was all a dream"-twist.
Gen Alpha really is a lost cause. Probably got his opinion from a streamer.
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>>738454658
nice good for them
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>>738457543
How would you define “tradition” in FF outside of ATB combat? Every FF game has its own unique gameplay gimmick (FF5 with jobs, FF7 with Materia, FF8 with Junctioning etc.)
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The ultimate redpill in this world is that if you put enough effort and "soul" into something it literally comes to life. Lord of the Rings, E33? It LITERALLY exists in a world outside others. Maybe our world in the creation of some otherworldly ayyylmao that started writing a story for his or her ayyylmao school. I am genuinely serious about this.
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>>738456537
>ugly UE5 graphics
Yeah I'm not a huge fan. The art design is definitely ruined by the technical implementation.
>janky controls
They're fine for the purpose of moving around the levels. It's not a platformer so it doesn't really matter.
>forgettable OST, bland characters and a retarded "it was all just a dream"-type story
Yeah I get it. You're just baiting now.
>>738456697
>East-German,
Moving to Germany won't make you white. You will always be indian.
>it's made by AI
Except it's not. Show me 1 (one) aislop texture in the game if you disagree.
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>>738457575
The game explicitly argues that the world inside the canvas was real though. The moral debate is more about whether a world needs to be sacrificed to prevent the god of said world suffering.
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>>738454901
Better than Squeenix at least. E33 is comparable in quality to Atlus and Falcom games. All of them are very good.
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>>738457919
True.
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>>738457919
>Atlus
Maybe in terms of SMT, but Persona is a trashy glorified dating sim. People only play those games for the dating sim elements.
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>>738455468
HOLY WHITE
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>>738457989
I play them for the time management and the persona building sims, in addition to the dating elements. You also act like FF is degen-free with a massive chunk of them going into insane shipping wars.
I never understood the "dating sim" complaint when the romantic outings last all of 20 minutes in a 100 hour playthrough. It's visual novel esque with its presentation but that isn't inherently a bad thing, it's just different.
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>>738457871
Chuds "will" say that but when transitioned selfpeople put xer souls into a game it doesn't sell and the studio is forced to close and xey are forced to find a new job.

A bit of a double standard much?
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>>738457894
>8 million copies sold
>nobody is playing it
What gives?
>inb4 single player game
KCD2 and Silksong have more players
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>>738454658
>make one game
>makes hundreds of millions even after deducting costs
What are they going to make next? They have a AAA budget now afterall.
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>>738455656
>Bad jrpgs are bad
>Good jrpgs are good
Why are low IQ people so baffled by such concepts? Is that the new "but I didn't eat this morning"?
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>>738458285
Post FF7R's numbers kek
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>>738458285
It looks like almost 8000 people are playing it right now. What are you comparing this to? Counter Strike? Gacha?
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>>738457806
>ATB, classic turn based or FFX turn based, FF12 style or something entirely new just not real time action
>Party members you control
>Unashamed Japanese flavor and appeal, not trying to chase the GoT or Sony movie game audience.
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>>738458376
This little indie game which flopped according to /v/
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>>738458168
A lot of shipping faggotry happens outside of the games to be fair, and whenever they do romance, it tends to be a pre-determined romance (FF4, FF8 and FF10). The only FF that came close to having dating sim elements was 7, which makes it no surprise that it’s the most popular game in the series because that kind of thing attracts neurotic shipping fags.
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>>738458289
They said they're keeping the budget the same. They're not a publicly traded company so they aren't obligated to go big. Guillaume said he wants to avoid going that route because he knows it eventually leads to ruin for game development.
If the budget exceeds $10m, he won't make it.
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>sells 8 million
>a-actually it's a failure because there aren't 8 million people playing it right now on steam

final fantasy fans are never going to get over e33 being a success are they
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>>738455656
FF16 is an action game though, it's not a jrpg
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>>738458176
>that game
>soul
kek
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>>738458451
Also I'm pretty sure BG3 is a bigger dating sim than Persona by like 100x in intensity. You can't go 5 minutes in that game without someone wanting to take you out to dinner or outright fuck you.
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>>738457575
It being a dream or not is pointless.
I didn't care about Gustave's death so your cheap attempt to deride is moot.
I see you have nothing of interesting to say so shut up.
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>>738458285
>people are not playing a single player 60+ hour RPG that they have already completed
>8 million people only bought it through Steam
WOAH...
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>>738458747
>b-b-b-b-b-but it's single player
not an argument >>738458419
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>>738455656
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Seething tendies itt kek
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>>738458782
Hollow Knight/Silksong fans are mentally ill and will play that game till the Heat Death of the Universe (see also, Undertale, Binding of Isaac)
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Damn it's been a year since I went on /v/, saw a seething gook talk about the game "flopping on Japan" and knew right then and there that it's bound to win GOTY
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>>738458906
Holy rent free
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>>738458851
>16yo
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>>738458650
And BG3 was also popular. Even E33 added romance options despite them adding nothing meaningful to the game. See the pattern?

It’s now become an expectation for an RPG to have romance options regardless of how necessary they are (thanks Atlus and BioWare).

>>738458851
I do think it’s funny how E33 put a sexy 16 year old in their game complete with a fanservicey outfit and the usual suspects didn’t complain. No idea why.
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>>738454658
Why did it take decades for a genre like JRPGs to get it's first good game?
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>>738459242
JRPGs used to be good up until the mid 2000s. After that, they stagnated, and relied on otaku wish fulfilment and pandering to carry them. E33 is basically a golden age FF without cringy weeb tropes.
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>>738458285
>KCD2
Has significantly more content and DLC. Also more replay value due to being more open.
>Silksong
It's a metroidvania, which also means more replay value. Also released later.
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>>738459242
There have always been some decent ones, but since FF died in the ass with XIII, they've been rare (e.g. Unicorn Overlord)
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>>738459038
>actual full DLC releasing later vs a small update released at the same time as the trailer
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>>738458458
>They said they're keeping the budget the same
>he knows it eventually leads to ruin for game development
HOLY BASED
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>>738459501
People have been saying “FF is dead” since 8. The FF fandom is arguably one of the most divided fanbases out there, because each individual game has its own sub-fanbase that often dislike a number of other games in the franchise. Even XIII has its fans. I think the only FF that genuinely no one cares about is II.
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>>738459501
UO doesn'r exist until it gets ported.
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The hard reality is that it was a white game.
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>>738459589
Holy excuses
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>>738457989
this is a non-dark thread
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>may 2026
>japan simps STILL coping about e33
I admire your dedication
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>>738459884
based
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>>738455236
Jack's game was good. But yeah, otherwise agreed.
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>>738456194
And what's wrong with embracing the absurd and the surreal? Western artists do it too.
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>>738455236
Based af
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How do you fix japanese dialogue?
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>>738460931
Without hiring a prostitute, can you have less in less than 4 hours? If not, you know what is wrong.
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>>738458285
HE CAN'T STOP LOSING TO THIS GAME!
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>>738461525
ACK I KNEEL KOJIMA-SAMA
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>>738457575
lowest IQ post of the day, and it's not even 8PM ZAMN!
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>>738454658
>>738454679
>>738455236
>>738455656
>>738456879
Total Squeenix Death! NIHAHAHA!
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Cameronsisters... not like this...
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>>738458851
>she was only of legal age in most places you sick bastard
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>>738458176
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>>738457575
Verso's fragment of soul is real and he even tells you that people inside the canvas are real too.

My personal interrogation is about those being are still real after they came back after getting erased. In my opinion the Maelle's ending shows they are uncanny after coming back and became a parody of themselves. I admit I didn't have that feeling with Lune and Sciel during the adventure, but maybe knowing lumerians knowing they aren't real entities in the end, make them becoming odds.
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remember when they made the asian chick permanently bare foot? what a fucking great game
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>>738462302
Kek the boiling seething rage
>i hate rap, but i love eminem
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>738458458
>Guillaume said he wants to avoid going that route because he knows it eventually leads to ruin for game development
gigabased
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>>738461754
Filtered
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>>738458501
it's also retards mad that king-dom cum in henrys ass deliverance 2 lost awards to it
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>>738462302
>nooo you can't just like Eminem without worshipping niggers too!
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>>738460313
i don't get it though
japanese people who play it all seem to like it
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>>738462693
>Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
No, but weebs will try and turn anything into a "YOU'RE RACIST FOR NOT GOBBLING UP JAPSLOP" argument. You can taste the seething tears from that tranny's eyes just reading the tweet.
>"I wrote a piece on Backloggd"
should also invalidate everything they've ever said.
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>>738457919
Atlus is based
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>>738454658
only 8m with biggest astroturf operation in the history of videogames. fucking looooool
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>>738462679
They knew.
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>>738462476
>In my opinion the Maelle's ending shows they are uncanny after coming back
Maelle is not really as skilled as a painter as the others in the story so I wouldn't be surprised if it is intentional
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>>738462302
>it's racist to like E33
These fucking aspie losers who spend all their time worrying about how RACIST people are for daring to give any japanese game anything less than 10/10 and the UPMOST respect are going to eventually have to cope with the fact that nippon is not going to thank them, and will actually still look at them funny when they show up at super nintendo world as balding men in a dress.
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>>738463041
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>>738462302
Yes, let's give someone with "taste" like this the authority on what video games are good.
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>>738463152
brother its made in france, the brownest country in EU by far.
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>>738454658
>>738455648
Still the most overrated game ever.
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>>738463246
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>>738463246
Yeah?
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>>738462679
>>738463042
>barefoot flying asian woman
>feet collector character
>my, what lovely feet
what gave it away
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>>738463421
Know thy audience.
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>>738455407
AI is like global warming. It's happening, I don't care, I won't be affected by it. Cope.
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>>738463317
This has been debunked
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>>738463639
>Katana Zero
My nigga
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>>738455798
>>738455876
>spent my last year shitposting nonstop in every single e33 thread, making them totally unusable
>it still sold 8m copies
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>>738461620
Must hurt to know it's still selling....
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This game was awful
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>>738464794
There were like 10 threads up at a time the first month or so, you had to be working very hard
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>>738454658
Is this the most successful indian bot campaign of all time?
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>>738454658
couldn't win the only award that mattered, the gamer vote
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>>738465016
You mean the one that was 100% voted on by fans across all platforms the game released on?
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Why is this game's fanbase so angry and seething? I don't even understand what they're so mad about
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>>738465097
yeah the steam one where most gamers are
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>>738457902
>>738458735
>>738462476
Your world is not real and if Clea wanted to she could drown it in her piss any day now.
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>>738465280
Oh no! That would be terrible!
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>>738454658
How many copies? Would you say, 10 million?
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>>738454658
You unironically need an IQ between 90-110 to think E33 is good. It's the most midwit oriented game ever made. Just complete npc slop
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>>738465547
>110 IQ
>midwit
lol
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>>738465547
Only midwits are obsessed with IQ.
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>>738465547
Darkie post
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It's white.
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POR L'AMOR
POR LA VIE
PLOURER IN COLOURE!
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>>738454679
Not really? Remake and Rebirth are far better games.



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