I dont get it. Why are people so mad about the Star Fox Remake?Are there people really playing Star Fox for the story?Nobody played SF0 and the 3ds was more of a straight port.
How is Star Fox 2026 not a reboot? It's doing the same shit other reboots do.
>>738459112>I dont get it. Why are people so mad about the Star Fox Remake?i don't think "people" are mad but im pretty sure almost everyone wanted a new starfox instead of a 4th rehash
>>738459112The thing isThe levels, from what we saw from the trailer, look 1:1 with the N64 (and so the 3DS) gameStar Fox Zero was also just SF64; if you're a Star Fox fan, you just keep getting the same thing over and overIt's not just the story; you're just playing the same game over and over but with "better" graphicsSame game that is meant to already be replayed multiple times
nigger the levels are identicalwhy pay $40+ when you can just play 64
>>738459476Gamers prefer more story/lore in their games nowadays. And Online modes.
tendies' mental gymnastics are incredible to witness
>>738459256Nintendo literally called a remaining so who knows. Maybe if it sells well enough they'll continue the series from here making it a full on reboot.
>>738459112Nobody is mad its just shitposters
>>738459749>Gamers prefer more story/lore in their games nowadayswhy the fuck would they play star fox then
I'm only upset because I want new content, not a game I have squeezed dry two times over at this point.I don't even mind the new designs (barring Katt) but having to wait a decade for each new Star Fox, only to get a remake has me pretty annoyed.If they were releasing Star Fox games regularly, and I could be confident they will release another (new) one within the decade, I wouldn't complain. But I have a hard time believing the schedule is gonna change.
Nobody is going to play a triple A railshooter in 2026.
>>738460163This is my main issue with it. I think trying to sell a remake of a 2-3 hour rail shooter as a nearly full priced game and the main event of the series (calling it just "Star Fox") is going to kill any chance at bringing this series back in a more long term way. I think they needed to really reinvent the series.Also I think the character models are ugly.
>>738460146Because Nintendo wants to make it their Space Opera series. That's why they're doing a cinematic take on it, now.
>>738460163The hype attention this is getting says otherwise.
>>738460163I'm sure they would, if it wasn't priced at 70% of a full price game, and was properly marketed as a quick arcade experience.
>>738459112>poo>crap>excrement, feces, depositionsdifferent names, same shit
>>738460490Lot of good that did Prime 4.
>>738460653This is getting way more fanfare than that ever did
>>738459112For about 30 years, maybe more, people have been waiting for a new Star Fox entry about what happens after the first. Technically Assault does that, but that was still 20 years ago. When they announce like Star Fox Zero, it's both surprising that they're bothering to make a Star Fox game at all, and annoying that they're retreading the same story already told twice before. It's like if every Final Fantasy game was about the 4 heroes of light fighting the 4 fiends and then Chaos. That might work once, but you'd eventually start asking if they'll ever do anything else.
>>738459112I hope for a proper sequel.This is better than everything that has been releases after SF64 though.
Because it's the same shit over and over. We joke about this with other franchises. But it's true here.
>>738459112Why are people acting like it's easy to start where you left off 20 years later?
>>738459112Nintendo needs to stop using the hard R's and make something new
>>738460756Only degenerate furries care about the plot.It just needs a good sequel that does not abandon core gameplay of 64.We still have not gotten that.
>>738459112Wait a second, it's a remake? So that's why fans are so upset, and the weird quibbles about the character designs are just a part of that?I wonder if this was something they threw together quickly and slapdash in light of (or in hope for) Starfox's positive reception in the Mario Galaxy movie.
>>738460690Star Fox games haven't sold better than Metroid games in around two decades. Hense the slower release pattern. This hype has a LOT of ground to cover.
>>738459112Simple, same story means same locations again. Direct already confirmed that a shitton of the levels are just from 64.
>>738460951>the weird quibbles about the character designs are just a part of that?There's pretty much nothing else to talk about, and considering the game looks to be 1:1, I don't think that's going to change.
>>738460862>Only degenerate furries care about the plot....what exactly do you think happens in the stories of these games?Anyways it's not about the quality of writing, it's about delivering new scenarios and keeping the experience fresh.
>>738460862And not caring about the plot means you don't want them to use the same fucking plot 4 times, especially when there's dialogue even during gameplay.
>>738459112>Our marketing department says calling this the third remake of the same thing will result in 4.7% fewer sales. Maybe it's a "cover" or some shit. I don't know, just steal another word businesses use to say they're selling something everyone already has.
>>738461031Yet fans here seem more outraged over it than StS players over finding out Anita got her hooks into the game.
what if this remake is they uniting both sf and the canceled sequel into one single plot?
>>738459112It is the same maps. No new layouts. I could be a map designer for these retards and make cool shit. Hiding your retarded thread now.
>>738461510Then they probably would've mentioned that in the video.
>>738459112I don't give a shit about the story they more or less confirmed the levels will be exactly the fucking same.
>>738459112>Are there people really playing Star Fox for the story?yes, you retard. we have to hear the same tired dialogue over and over again. This aint Mario, which barely has any plot at all
I already thought the minor changes made to the 3DS port were annoying, this is just going to be further from that.
>>73845911264 3D is a remake and not a remaster, fucking retard.
>>738461510That's what people thought Zero was gonna be, with the walker mode being included.
>>738461572in logical terms, they would reveal this in june and leave us with the trailer we got now.also starfox 2 was well received so there is a possibility of this happening
>>738459112Because the purpose of a remake is to change shit up, and from the cutscenes it showed it looks like it's just 64 done 1:1 again. It's not a remake, just a remaster with a coat of paint and a bad one, like Demon''s Souls PS5.>Are there people really playing Star Fox for the story?Oh so you're okay paying 70 buckaroos for the funny rabbit to do the thing and say BARREL ROLL so you can point at the screen and make a soifaceThat's the Mario Galaxy movie's target audience alright
>>738461794Yeah they made every line of dialogue from scratch, every level... oh they just copied those from an N64 game? I wonder if there's some word for a game that's attempting to be exactly the same as a game that already exists but on a different console.
>classic starfox gameplay on top off TPS sections to add variety>pushed the story forwardIf only you guys didn't hate it we wouldnt be getting 64 for the 4th time
What else would I play it for? Certainly not the gameplay
>>738460149I want to be assimilated by Pigma…
>>738459112>>738461358Where does Assault and Command fit on these
>>738462042fuck forgot pick
>>738462042I assume you wanted to post a picture of Assault.The complaints were that it wasn't classic Star Fox gameplay. There were very specific criticisms about how controlling the Arwing works, and people don't play a Star Fox game for on foot shooting. The shooting sections suck, too, so even if you were excited to see that, you'd hate actually playing them.
>>738462168Both are in a Z axis because they are the only sequels to 64 that actually move on with the plot
I am upset because the designs look retarded and they made Katt look like a crack addict.Besides it's modern Craptendo so it will be shit consoomed by braindead tendies.
>>738459112Same energy
>>738462328Who cares about Katt anyway, I just hope a sequel is handled better.As long as Krystal looks hot, everyone else can look like discount fursuits for all I care
Krystal's not in it and if she was she would be ugly and not hot, so i dont care.
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>>738462512She won't. Why would they commit the horrible sin of having a woman look attractive?
I'm not looking for a SF game with 2deep4u xenogears style plot, but good fucking lord. I just want them to move on from sf64 without abandoning the rail shooter style that made the series famous instead of devolving into stupid gameplay gimmicks that nobody likes like in zero.That fucking gyrocopter, what were they thinking.
How fucking hard is it to design new levels for a rail shooter? There's a billion different shmups you could get inspired by and you can even do MORE since it's 3D.
>>738463076Yeah I wouldn't be as bothered by it being a remake of 64 if they fleshed it out more. Even if it was kind of like Sonic Mania. Take the same level assets and make 1 or 2 more levels with it.
>>738460013The preannouncement leaks said NST was doing a remake to reboot the franchise and then doing a full sequel .
>>738459112Imagine this alternate universe for the Zelda series>OoT>OoT sequel that gets canned near full development 2 years later>OoT reboot 2 more years later>OoT reboot sequel 5 years later>OoT reboot sequel #2 3 years later>OoT reboot sequel #3 1 year later>then OoT remake 5 years later>OoT reimagining 5 years later>official OoT sequel finally uncanned and released 1 year later>suddenly OoT remake #2 nine years laterSo imagine this means 5 out of 10 total games is just OoT from over 30 years ago. That's what's going on with Star Fox, and one huge reason why people are livid.
>>738464430This, it's like they announced an OOT remake that plays like BOTW.It's like they are announcing they'll keep the formula forever.
>>738464430Anon virtually every Zelda game copied the ALttP/OoT formula until BOTW
>>738462454And much like Rexfags, I find Lylat Wars Forever types batshit insane and stuck on a dopamine high from their past. So I guess it’s actually a very apt comparison.
>>738464892Longterm fans don’t want the formula redefined into something totally different. They want new content, new stories and formula shake-ups that are just enough to add flavor. BotW/TotK is selling out your base for the lowest common denominator.
It was actually kino and a good direction for the franchise. But you niggers got filtered.
>>738461946"A remaster is a change in the sound or image quality of previously created forms of media, whether audiophonic, cinematic, or videographic. The resulting product is said to be remastered."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remaster3D is not using previously created media, it's creating new media from scratch. i.e remaking.
>>738459256The direct literally said stage layouts are the same to N64. Which makes it more like a remaster than anything.
>>738464892Not Majora's Mask, aka the best Zelda game, which directly followed Ocarina of Time.
>>738465226BotW blew every Zelda out of the water besides MM which is good specifically because it's the anti-Zelda Zelda
Would including remade Star Fox (SNES) stages as well improve it?
>>738465863Explain your reasoning for why it’s better without resorting to “a bunch of people bought it”.
>>738465565That's not what a remaster is
>>738459112>why do people want new levels just keep buying the same game over and over
>>738462042Pushed the story off the cliff is more like it. Command would have been a better game if it didnt follow after assault.
>>738462168They fit in the legend of spyro category where it was an attempt at serious story telling and continuity that mattered but they were panned and the IP owners like to pretend they dont exist and resort to remaking the games that were good.
>>738464892Shut up.The only new named character in Zero is fucking Direct I, and I hardly think that countsYeah, Twilight Princess is a bit derivative, but at least it's new characters in a new story with new things happening.
>>738462551Krystal would also have been an 11 year old if she was in this game.
>>73845911264 wasn't a reboot
>>738465949It's a really intelligently designed overworld, the geography is structured in a way to make you wonder what's around every corner and you're 99% of the time rewarded with something. I love the physics & chemistry of the game and how you're basically given every dungeon item at the start to tackle the world however you see fit. Weapon durability is overstated, it makes you really think twice about how you tackle enemies or going into a higher level area too early. It also makes you really savor those valuable weapons you get which you save for a Lynel or Guardian. I thought the various takes on the traditional Zelda locations and races (especially the Gerudo) were by far the best in the series, it's a very engrossing Hyrule. The Great Plateau might be the best tutorial/intro to any game ever, once I left I was totally hooked on the new forumla. Shrines can be formulaic at times but every now and then you get a real winner that sticks with you like the Blue Flame or Eventide Island. The only real downsides I'd say are lack of enemy variety and true dungeons besides Hyrule Castle but TotK fixes the latter and Hyrule Castle is one of the best dungeons in the series period
>>738460149Star Fox's problem is that the games come out so rarely that they feel the need to reboot the story it each time to get new fans on board. Nobody would buy an Assault sequel sadly.
>>738460013>remainingso a reboot...
>>738462042>>738462175The problem was that the on foot sections fucking sucked. Stuff like Corneria with Fox on top of an Arwing was awesome though.
>>738467117They don't HAVE to reboot the story. They choose to. They could easily summarize the plot of 64 in a prologue.
>>738465565It's a reboot with everything else but gameplay. Those can exist, y'know.
>>738462512why would krystal be there, they won't visit her planet
