>doesn't have tank controls>somehow the movement still feels less fluid than in OGThe fuck were they thinking?
>>738461913Even basic walking in a game now often has some acceleration and deceleration, meaning even if you aren't touching any movement direction, the character can still move. Somehow designers don't think that being able to move where you want is an important part of a video game.
I want to break the teeth of anyone who defends nu Capcom
>>738461913>less fluidbut it doesnt. the original felt horrible and controls were one of the few criticisms. it feels like a bad arcade game. i'm glad the remake rendered the og obsolete as it should. this is literally the best time for resident evil quality wise. it has never been better as a franchise. 7,8,9 absolutely mog 1,2,3, and the remakes absolutely render the ogs obsolete. it doesn't matter how much you cling to your childhood (inb4 akshually i played them all yesterday!) nostalgia. you lost. resident evil fans won.
>>738463865>more snappy and arcady movement felt horribleStopped reading.
>>738464153He's right though, controlling OG Leon is like getting your teeth pulled
>>738461913literally ANY control scheme is more fluid than tank controls, dude. RE4 aged.
>>738461913It's like SA vs IV movement.SA: instant reaction, simple animation start/pause, can quickly do a 180IV: Euphoria engine galore, realistic™ as shit, every little movement has inertia so it feels sluggish
>>738463865Behead these zoomer children.
>>738461913you're just flat out wrongstop going through life as a retarded faggot
>>738461913>The fuck were they thinking?That they can improve upon the original by making it more Cinematic™ and Serious™Obviously they are retards.
>>738463865>plebbit spacing
>>738462087>meaning even if you aren't touching any movement direction, the character can still moveI've never had anyone back me up on this, but I swear to god he takes longer to stop walking depending on which foot is in front when you let go of the stick, due to animation cycle retardationHas anyone else noticed this?
>>738463865Bait this bad should be a bannable offense
>this is what demake fags are trying to convince you is better to control than the OG
>>738464802I'm sorry for your affliction, I hope you have supportive loved ones to help ease the burden of your immense retardation
>>738461913>thinkingThey think that inertia = realism.
>>738463865>>738464869zoomers will either learn or die from winter
>>738461913The devs knew the RE tourists would buy it becasue they never played the original simple as. It's crazy how you have to install like ten different mods to attempt to fix the demake. We still don't have anything to fix the clutter and dark lighting yet but someone is working on a mod that rewrites all the dialogue which is nice.
>>738466279>suck ass at the game>this is the game's faultWhy are zoomers like this?
>>738465894I wouldn't be surprised. The game loves its animations so much it's ridiculous, and in your case Leon has to end in the proper neutral position. I've seen something similar with other actions.
>crowbcat fags still making threadsAh yes the 4%. No no I get it. You gotta make threads constantly or else you had to face reality that everyone loves the remake and the OG is already dead and forgotten. If it weren't for your little safe space bubble of contrarianism here, you'd probably kill yourself out of anger. You lost.
>>738461913No it doesnt
>>738462087Inertia is a retard filter
>>738461913It's cause you have transitional animations and weird momentum like your knees are made of jello instead of the snappy movement of the original.You could say the new version is more realistic, but in real life transitional states are automatic, you don't think about them.
>>738463710He used the semi colon wrong in that image. What a retard.
>>7384664594%? In your dreams, I've always been a top 1% gamer.A commoner like you wouldn't understand.
>>738466456I swear his dumbfuck unholstering animation (after automatically holstering without player input like a fucking retard) slowed things down too, but it's been a while so I don't completely remember
>>738466524It's movie game shit. It's literally for retards.
>>738461913OG has awful controls. A little movement inertia is nothing compared to not being able to move while aiming. Take the nostalgia glasses off unc and see the game for what it is
>>738466459>>738463865>it's the resident schizo who constantly seethes about RE4 fans because he imagined them being mean to him onceHey, how you been?
>>738466524Super mario bros was always a movie game.
>>738465957I had never had this happen to me
>>738466459Look at how angry and vitriolic you are that people with souls still prefer the original game for what it is, and not what it pretends to be.Someone lost, and it’s the person who can’t stop seething.
>>738466731>not being able to move while aimingThis is not really a 'control' but a design rule that makes the original much more approachable to casuals.
>>738466557>You could say the new version is more realistic, but in real life transitional states are automatic, you don't think about them.You also have a much greater range of movement in real life. Having your control gimped for the sake of "realism" rings hollow when you're still so heavily constrained by the fact that it's a video game
>>738466903Yessssss anon, the casuals are the ones who enjoy the fixed aim controls and limitations, not the people who still cry after 20 years that they can’t avoid attacks while reloading and looking behind Leon all at the same time.You’re a very smart and honest guy.
>>738466631Basically, yeah. It's like >>738466557 said. Leon has to go through certain animations before he can do something. From what I've seen, he can't aim immediately if he has the knife in his hand because he has to sheathe it to pull out his gun. Or how he has to let his hands return to a neutral position after reloading the pistol, the SG at least, before he can pull his knife out. It's a lot of little things.
>>738466934I was playing devil's advocate.The real reason behind the strive for realism is cost cutting. You can buy premade assets and animations which is why every Resident Evil game looks the exact same.
>>738461913Being able to switch weapons on the fly greatly negates any character friction that only filters retards.
>>738466903put this design choice in any modern AAA singleplayer shooter for your average dudebro and women to lose their minds
>>738467127Hotkey weapon swap is in RE4tweaks.
>>738466731>A little movement inertialol>not being able to move while aimingI'm so glad I can move while aiming in the remake, where even so much as twitching a toe immediately makes my guns ridiculously inaccurate and forces me to wait 52.5 seconds for Leon to stop being a retard and aim again (and then watch as he completely misses anyway, even with the crosshair at maximum accuracy)That was really worth the massive debuff to movement. I love watching Leon languidly ooze around the landscape like the contents of a used condom
>>738467278maybe you just suck at the game?
>>738467061It's just so fucking bad, I don't know what they were thinking or how anybody can be okay with it
>>738466863i've never had that happen to me but plenty of times i have been put in positions where damage is unavoidable on professional which is genuinely bullshit considering all the combat changes they made (enemies taking 2-3 pistol bullets to stagger, and adding a parry. ) if they were going to try and make it more like an action game they should've added a dodge button
if tank controls are superior then why dont modern games use them anymore?
>>738467368No. I can wrangle the terrible controls that feel like shit, but they are still terrible controls that feel like shit.
>>738461913movement feels fine, quit bitching. Game is great.
>>738467368>>maybe you just suck at the game?>he says this after whining about how much the OG filtered him
>>738461913There's literally nothing wrong with tank controls, youre just too stubborn to let the muscle memory do its magic
>>738467468strange that most people don't report any problems with controls
>>738467480>movement feels fineIt has some of the worst movement I have ever encountered in a game, and I only say "some of" because I'm leaving room for some obscure piece of shit I've blocked from my memory, because it's definitely the worst fucking one that I can remember
>>738467532Yeah I suck at OG because it controls terribly. I wanted to give the game a shot but I got filtered within one hour. Oh well...
>>738467430The same reason most games these days are shit. People today like eating it.
>>738467678>It has some of the worst movement I have ever encountered in a game,Someone hasn't played RE9
>>738467617>strange that most people don't report any problems with controlsIt's the most common complaint about the game you buffoon
>>738467678Wow, you haven't played many games have you? Makes sense, most people who whine about muh controls are scrubs who don't play games.Try playing Uncharted 1 on hard mode lmao
>>738467863the game has 96% on Steam so it's probably not as bad as you make it out to be
>>738467056Casuals(non gamers, mobile 'gamers') usually don't talk about them online on xitter, pleddit, 4channel or any other platform. Those who do it are usually loud, mediocre gamers who played big games since the ps3/xbox 360 era that are similar to one another and because of that habituation developed tunnel vision. OG RE4 is an easy game by design. Controlling the character and the camera at the same time, especially on a controller, is one of the biggest hurdles of new players.
>>738466459>he doesnt realize that not buying the game means you don't leave a review
>>738467430This thread isn't even about tank controls being better, but about the remake's movement being more restrictive despite not having tank controls, which are inherently restrictive
I downloaded it and it's like Leon is black out drunk because the mouse aiming is horribleIt kind of reminds me of Dead Space's launch but much worse
>>738462087developers hate gamers, they are failed film directors or some shit and think their ideas are the best thing ever>visual clarity? what's that? just add more particles and whatever else, just make the characters fucking GLOW and have a literal outline>audio balancing? what's that? i'll just have terrible voice volume at random points in the game even WITH dialogue volume boost on, also i hate atmosphere in general so the sounds are lack-luster and don't help immerse you into the environment>accurate movement? i hate accurate movement, i want everyone to be like RDR2 Farthur, who can't turn without waiting a solid second after you press the stick, i hate players being able to tell where they'll land when they jump too so i make air control the shittiest thing everetc, developers also don't play their own games so basic shit that would be caught/thought of immediately gets dropped because they don't know what games play like as they don't play them
>>738468124>Casuals(non gamers, mobile 'gamers') >Controlling the character and the camera at the same time, especially on a controller, is one of the biggest hurdles of new players.i don't care if there's another layer of hell, the average codfag and sony cinematic game fan are both still casuals
>>738468248>but about the remake's movement being more restrictivebut they aren't
>>738467761>Someone hasn't played RE9No, I gave up on Capcom after RE4 Remake.From videos it looked like RE9's movement was slightly better. Is that not the case?
>>738468493it has RE7/RE8's controls in third person
>>738461913I'm only on chapter 2 but my only gripe is that the quick turn is heavily nerfed compared to og, while the enemies are way better at pathfinding and overall more aggressive.Also melee feels worse.
>>738468493No, the inertia is even worse. Also Grace runs super slowly in 3rd person. I had to install a movement mod just pot make this playable
>>738467883>Wow, you haven't played many games have youNo, I've played a lot, and in eras where controls tended to be crummy. RE4R is just that bad. I'm leaving it open ended as a concession that I may have played something worse and don't remember, but RE4R is absolutely atrocious, no hyperbole.>Try playing Uncharted 1 on hard mode lmaoThere's some bullshit there, but it doesn't control nearly as badly as RE4 Remake.
>>738467939>it can't be bad because people like itPeople are retarded, appeal to popularity is retarded, and you are retarded for thinking it's a valid argument
>>738461913ESIDENT VIL4
>>738468774if people are retarded why are they handling the controls better than you
>>738468551>it has RE7/RE8's controls in third personThey weren't perfect, but they weren't half as bad as RE4R>>738468647>No, the inertia is even worse.How the fuck is this even possible, holy shit lol
>>738461913Skill issue? Felt fine for me for all 4 of my playthroughs.
>>738467189>le modsyou can also mod out inertia if you wantyou just want to bitch cause you a bitch
>>738468865>HowNot only that but Grace stumbles constantly when playing her in 3rd person mode which doesn't happen in 1st person.
>>738468840>if people are retarded why are they handling the controls better than youThey're too stupid to have standards, and too brainlessly impressed by the Super Realistic™ animations to realize how bad it controls.I would also once again point out that you were filtered by OG RE4's controls.
>>738468579It feels that way because enemies get a speed boost when they're not on camera, and Dr. Salvador can teleport during the village fight.
>>738468970>Not only that but Grace stumbles constantly when playing her in 3rd person mode which doesn't happen in 1st person.I almost want to play it now, just to experience this travesty for myself
>>738469034>It feels that way because enemies get a speed boost when they're not on cameraNTA but holy shit, really?That's such dishonest designIs it the same in RE9? That would explain why enemies always seem to successfully initiate grabs after it looks like you've avoided them
>>738468995No amount of contrarian cope is ever going to make you right, nostalgia blinded faggot. RE4Rs controls are more fluid than any shit this franchise ever had and no amount of your pathetic crybaby coping that the game is too complex for you and you can't kneecap stunlock everything to death forever and filtered your ass will change that
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>>738468124>Controlling the character and the camera at the same time, especially on a controller, is one of the biggest hurdles of new players.people who started with those can't grasp games that control the camera for you
>>738468995So the game controls terribly, people are retarded, and the retarded people rate the game that controls terribly highly because the animations distracted them from the terrible controls. Gotcha>I would also once again point out that you were filtered by OG RE4's controls.Yeah I was, they are that bad. Also better to be filtered by OG controls than remake's controls. Just sayin'
>>738469324>proceeds to post modded gameplay yikes
>>738469324>RE4R's controls>fluidwords have meaningsSpeaking of nostalgia, you were rude and ignored my greeting >>738466762 but it's nice to know you are irrationally seething just as much as always, war-waging schizo
>>738469405>So the game controls terribly, people are retarded, and the retarded people rate the game that controls terribly highly because the animations distracted them from the terrible controls. GotchaThat last part is only speculation on my part, but that's about the size of it yes.>Yeah I was, they are that bad.You are still not seeing how you are destroying yourself in real time.>Also better to be filtered by OG controls than remake's controls. Just sayin'Meaningless statement.
>got stats like deaths, accuracy, kills, and times you took damage>but all that matters for rank is speed run autismThat's why I hate this game, fuck forced speed running to unlock everything
>>738469034Ah I see.Here's my thoughts so far:>hardcore mode from the start is good>free weapons in the storage is cringe>melee is easier to perform which is good, also stabbing downed villagers>stealth is nice, brute enemy type is gud>og soundtrack>villagers can dynamically set traps now?>dialogue is nowhere near as good but I liked the Luis cutscene
>>738469483I always see this comment, but no explanation as to what exactly is "modded" about the gameplay.
>>738470609oh that's because you haven't played the game, it's obvious to anyone thats played the game that Leon is doing dodges and quick snap turns around projectiles that don't exist in the base game, you may continue shitposting now
>>738469985>free weapons in the storage is cringeit's unlockable and you can just not use it>villagers can dynamically set traps now?no, but would be cool if they could
i'm playing a randomizer right now and Hunningan is Dr. Salvador>hardcore mode from the start is good>free weapons in the storage is cringe>melee is easier to perform which is good, also stabbing downed villagers>stealth is nice, brute enemy type is gud>og soundtrack>villagers can dynamically set traps now?>dialogue is nowhere near as good but I liked the Luis cutscene
i was playing the OG RE1 today and thought it would be easy since i played every other classic game years before (played the REmake instead of the original) but i ran out of ammo and died pretty early
>>738470998NTA but I'm not aware of any mod that adds dodges into the game
>>738470998What an odd response.
Uncs, sad thriller childhood game is forgotten and more people play RE6 thsn RE4. Sad times for uncs.
>>738471064nigga my posts are copyrighted.
>>738463865Worst time for actual RE fans who enjoyed gameplay. Best time for movieslop enjoyers.
The game does look pretty at times
If this was the OG the whole screen would be covered in piss filter
>>7384712654chanx fault
