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Let go of your nostalgia and use reason. Flaws aside, Assault was a strong basis for what should've been the direction of the franchise going forward.

Also, about the controls, just use configuration C. Granted, not sure why that wasn't the default.
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Assault kinda sucked. I think they really dropped the ball with it. Instead get this, Starfox 64 is a great basis for the series and they should make another one of those.
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blue ass
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>>738482820
They did
No one played zero
It was shit
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>>738482670
>Let go of your nostalgia
>assaultfag's first game was obviously Assault.
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>>738482949
You obviously didn't.
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>>738483013
My first SF game was SNES Star Fox. It was, I wanna say sixth grade. Had a cool teacher who had some consoles in the classroom as incentive for doing good work. He had both the original and 64. Played a decent amount of both, and it had a... surprisingly informative effect on me, come to think of it. I still firmly believe that they should've iterated on Assault instead of rehashing 64 a thousand times.
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>>738483256
>Oh shit I have nothing to contribute
>Ad homin
Point proven. Assault chads win again
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>>738482949
>It was shit
Lol no.
Zero was great except for the final boss.
Gonna replay it and skip 64 HD desu
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>>738482670
krystal ass
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>>738483356
Zero has completely different levels and a completely different story and the gameplay is iterated on to boot. Retard.
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I only clicked on this thread because the thumbnail made it look like she was completely nude.
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blue ass
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>>738483601
Yes. One way I wish the franchise would advance itself a little bit is letting the other members of the team be playable. They're supposed to be the Star Fox TEAM after all. Fuck knows it would be more interesting to be able to switch between them, and would offer up some interesting gameplay possibilities. Especially with alternate routes and whatnot.

>>738483630
It was iterated on with fucked up motion controls that didn't work.
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>>738482949
Zero had exactly one salvageable element and that was separating aiming from steering
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>>738482670
>>738484049
Judging by the pics I think you just want to goon to Krystal, which I don't blame ya.

Starfox Assault was a fun game, but ultimately got as GOATed as 64
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>>738484126
>the most garbage thing which is why everyone hates zero is why its.... LE GOOD!
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>>738484242
>human krystal
>AI slop
Eww
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>>738483601
Wouldn't have it any other way.
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This games multiplayer was completely outclassed by Metal Arms: Glitch in the System in the platform .

It's also got some of the worst controlling Arwing sections in the entire series
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>>738484049
Yeah well you're a furry.
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>>738484481
People dont like looking down at the gamepad, that's it.
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>>738482670
wait
you can play as Krystal in her skin tight suit in that game?
alright I'll play it...
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>>738484745
did metal arms have a good story? that all it needs
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>>738482670
Makes me very happy knowing Krystalfags will never get what they want
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>>738484670
>bare soles exposed
What a whore
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Nice ass
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>>738482670
I never even played assault. But you better believe I saved the official art.
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>>738484242
I want Assault to be the direction the series goes. Gooning to Krystal is a nice bonus.

Though talking seriously, I'd love to see a game that explores her backstory about her homeworld being destroyed. Like, what was her life like before that tragedy? Is she secretly bitter that she never got revenge? Did she want revenge? Does her backstory from Dinosaur Planet still exist in some form? There's actual substance there.
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>>738482949
>It was shit
dishonest bullshit, if they rereleased it on switch everyone would love it
it was on WiiU which nobody bought because they already had a Wii
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>>738482670
I'm not gonna play shitty on foot sections.
I'm not gonna suffer the blue furshit whore.
Behead cubies with a dull knife.
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>>738485680
a cube? what
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Assault would have been a good direction. The problem was that the gameplay for this first iteration wasn't great. Some people joke that Kid Icarus Uprising is their favorite Star Fox game, but it really is what Assault's structure could have lead to for the series.
On-foot sections felt awkward to control and the arwing also felt slow. Also, not having burst fire for the arwing really hurts it. You really feel it on the final mission having to press A for each shot, especially when playing through the game in one sitting.
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>>738482670
>Let go of your nostalgia and use reason
The irony is palpable from OP who is shilling a game over 20 years old now. Assault sucks
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>>738482670
Star Fox should be given to Project Aces
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>>738482949
>No one played zero
Considering it was released in april 2016 on the wii u, honestly tell me any type of star fox title that wouldnt have sold like ass under those same conditions?
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>>738486185
Holy fuck, KIU really IS just Star Fox Assault. What the fuck...
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>>738486185
>Assault would have been a good direction.
But it turned out it wasnt. Name me any example that proves your point.
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i liked krystal's army outfit even though command was gay..........too bad we won't see it again probably...........
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If Assault had like 4-6 more flying stages people would have called it the GOAT
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>>738486474
It really wasnt. They only share a few superficial similarities but otherwise are very different games. KIU also didnt sell gangbusters, barely over a million, despite all the marketing and hype of it being worked by sakurai.
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>>738486571
No they'll just say that the arwing levels dont play good which they already dont with the few that are in assault. Physics feels very off and the level designs leave much to be desired
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>>738486524
why did they make it a strategy action game? what were they thinking?
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>>738486663
They were thinking to make a game like star fox 2 which despite being canceled at the time was still considered a good game with unique strategy action hybrid gameplay.
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>>738486663
I liked that part, what I didnt like was that it as a bad strategy action game with not enough variety or complexity
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>>738482670
RAPE THE BLUE FOX
RAPE RAPE RAPE
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>>738487049
calm down anon. its too soon
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>>738486185
Your whole argument fell apart when it'd about a game released in 2005 with very aged game design.
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>>738487049
Im sure posting stuff like this and graphic nsfw images of Krystal is thr proper way to protest Krystal not bring in a new game.
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>>738486663
Gosh those missiles, but they gave them custom ships which I loved.
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>>738482670
>use reason
What year do you think it is?
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>>738482670
The best level in Assault was the first level. The rest of the Arwing levels were mediocre, and anything that wasn't arwing was absolutely horrendous. This game was shit, stop trying to pretend it was even close to mediocre.
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>>738487251
Krystal has games...?
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>>738487395
True. It was also the one without any aparoids which are a terrible antagonist implemented in the series. Should have been focused mainly on andrew and star wolf so we'd have more assaulting stuff against anthros and vehicles.
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I'm starting to hate Arwings because of the obsession that Star Fox is ONLY allowed to ever be Arwings. These retards of course conveniently never acknowledge the Landmaster and Blue Marine.
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The hate for Assault feels genuinely contrarian.
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>>738487610
Eh?
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>>738487675
I feel it is genuine, especially with how it constantly disappoints and fails to rise up as a viable alternative route for anything relating to star fox. For all the titles trying to be the next starfox why dont any of them try to be like assault?
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Krystal... Fluffy
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>>738487610
Not true. Fox can fight in super smash bros.
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>>738482670
>Let go of your nostalgia and use reason
You first OP. Assaults on foot sections were bad and the controls were garbage
>Flaws aside
Immediate cope
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>>738482949
No one bought a WiiU that's why
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>>738487980
Anyone who is okay with Fox being in Smash is a fake fan. He should NEVER be out of the Arwing under any circumstance.
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>>738482670
Can't go past the first game, otherwise we have to go back to dinosaur planet.
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>>738488031
Don't forget op is criticizing nostalgia of one game while using nostalgia for another game as his main talking point. That's quite the hypocrisy
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I liked Assault more than 64.

My first Star Fox was Star Fox.

I'm 34 and NOT a Krystalfag
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>>738482670
Nah, they should just remake star fox 1 again for the 70th time because apparently, that's all anyone in the fanbase wants or deserves.
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I really liked Assault.
I wished for Assault 2 with branching paths.
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>>738483013
/thread
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>>738487610
They're a squad of pilots. Fox in canon is the only one who can operate the other vehicles because he was the son of a legend
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>>738487972
Ruri my beloved...
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>>738488182
Why do you feel the need to lie?
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>>738488031
The on-foot sections with fun despite the repetitive objectives, and the controls were fine. Again, use config C.

>>738488173
It's not nostalgia, it's logic. But please, go right ahead and tell me your counter argument and how it doesn't boil down to rehashing 64 again.
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>>738482670
I think Assault just needed to be longer with branching paths and it would have easily been better than 64. I rank them:
64=Assault> > > Adventures > command
I never bothered with the SNES one or the cancelled snes one that was used as a marketing gimmick to sell the snes mini.
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>>738488292
>Fox is the only one allowed to do anything because everyone else is inexplicably retarded
Hm. There's a term for that.
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>Star Fox is unique among Nintendo franchises in that it's NEVER allowed to move past its definitive entry
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>>738488097
>1999
>Nintendo has so few franchise characters they need to shoehorn in Fox McCloud and Captain Falcon for a fighting game

They had what? Two games each by that point? Might as well have added Popeye and Mike Jones (Startropics) by that criteria.
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>>738486342
This. But Nintendo won't do it, because PA would insist on a Steam release (and they'd be right to do so, but Nintendo will sooner go bankrupt than kneel before Gabe).
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>>738488478
>It's not nostalgia, it's logic
Logically only the games that took place during thr lylat wars sold well. Only exception was adventures which was mainly riding off of star fox 64's reputation. Assault hasn't left any real positive legacy the gaming industry took to heart when making games going forward. What lasting legacy does assault even have that's positive and longterm?
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>>738482670
I'm not furry but I absolutely would Krystal.
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>>738488769
More like Namco wont do it since they dont want to give another company their special sauce that makes ace combat popular.
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I think every StarFox had something done right, have yet to play the SNES ones but all the ones after them did at least one thing right, that when combined and expanded upon to a new game would be so good.
>64's writing, Arwing controls and branching paths
>Adventures' on foot controls
>Assault's missions
>Command's different types or airships.
Oh right Zero exists, maybe I'll emulate that now that I'm feeling Starfoxy
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>>738488807
>ONLY games that sell a bajillion dollar should ever be allowed to exist
Then Star Fox should stay dead. Never make another game ever again, because even 64 didn't sell gangbusters.
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>>738488735
>star fox 2 sucked
>adventure sucked
>assault sucked
>command sucked
This franchise is cursed with bad sequels. Even Zero was cursed as a meager reimagining of the first game.
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>>738488742
Doesn't matter. Fox being out of the Arwing is sacrilege. He never left the Arwing in 64, and that's my childhood, so you'd better respect that.
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>>738489003
>star fox 2 sucked
u wot m8
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I never played it lol
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>>738489042
He did tho
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>>738489042
>He never left the Arwing in 64,
@grok
Does he know?
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>>738489042
Shitty false flag. He never left his Arwing in SNES and SF2 either.
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>>738489042
It's okay anon, I alone understood what you meant.
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>>738488608
It's almost like the squad is centered around him or something
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>>738489003
>Star Fox 1 wasn't Star Fox 64
>Star Fox 2 wasn't Star Fox 64
>Adventure wasn't Star Fox 64
>Assault wasn't Star Fox 64
>Command wasn't Star Fox 64
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>>738488187
should have used the train from mario kart 64
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>>738489054
Technical aspects aside, everything it did was inferior to and done better by it's predecessor. There was a good reason it stayed locked in the nintendo vault for over two decades
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>>738482670
Assault was an early symptom of how Nintendo started feeling about Starfox for how it was haphazardly farmed out to a 3rd party dev. You're asking people to treat this series like the devs gave a shit right at the point where they clearly didn't.

All that said I'm intrigued by the rumor of an adventure-style Starfox game. I've got a feeling Adventures was included in the Direct line-up for a reason.
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>Huge Krystal Fan Excited to Play a Star Fox Game For the First Time
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Krystal is built for Sharpclaws
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>>738489537
I played Half Life 2 to
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It's funny how after the movie now everyone is a Star Fox fan
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>>738482670
>Flaws aside, Assault was a strong basis for what should've been the direction of the franchise going forward.
Uh no.
It was a good Star Fox game with an undercooked Third Person Shooter attached.
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>>738482670
We're still getting a proper Star Fox sequel. It will be announced in the autumn Direct
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>>738488403
No lies here, son
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>>738489628
she's built for everything that isn't Fox
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...I liked Starfox Adventures...

>No you didn't. You were too young and stupid to realize you were playing a watered down Wind Waker

...Two cakes better than one...
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>>738488905
Zero has some really good corridor stages and excellent dogfights where the gamepad aiming works perfectly. The problem is that every giant boss is hot garbage and none of the alternate vehicles are fun to use. Most of the all-range levels are ground attack missions but the gamepad aiming is horrible for this.
My hot take is that the good parts of zero are some of the best in this series, but the bad parts are some of the worst.
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>>738490659
I wish Star Fox Adventures WAS an OOT/WW Zelda ripoff. Know why? Those games didn’t suck.
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>>738484635
I took your degenerate fetish and made it more socially acceptable
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>>738491029
>AI socially acceptable

damn where have you been
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>>738491146
Playing MegaMan X, a game about humans and AI living together in harmony
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>>738491209
You mean the game about hunting down and exterminating furries.
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>>738484049
They should do what Gradius Gaiden did and tie different weapon loadouts to the different pilots, and let you pick who's "on point" i.e. which one (You) play as. But that would require actual creativity on Nintendo's part.
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>>738491146
india
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I liked Assault
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>>738486524
Where's my Star Fox game that lets me flirt with anthro pilot girls in a space station bar?
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>>738489314
>ARAAAAAAAH
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>>738491029
do jeets really?
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>>738489628
Sauce?
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>snoys trying to downplay assault because they have nothing that can remotely compare
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Assault is the definition of bland. It didn't do anything well, everything it did was either worse than 64's rail stages or just a really neutered version of other, better games.

If you want cutscenes and exposition and real story in Star Fox you are asking for complete slop.
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>>738491029
Furfags > trannies > jeets.
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>>738490193
Prove it>>738492928
Why would snoys do that? Cinematic games, albeit dated ones, with bland gameplay is right down their alley.
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is krystal wearing a skin suit or walking around almost naked
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>>738493550
Both, depending on the game
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nintendo too homo to let krystal out again
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>>738490907
I unironically love Wii motion controls and Gyro controls.
Would you say I'd enjoy Zero's controls more?
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>>738493785
This is why we need Rare back.
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>>738482670
Maybe krystalfags should protest nintendo's decision to not include her by creating a movement similar to dicks out for harambe and flaunt at nintendo that they'll boycott the new star fox in favor of event horizon
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>>738488292
That's a lie, Peppy could too.
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>>738493785
>>738493865
This is why I wanted an Adventures remake instead.
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>>738483370
>>738485658
>>738483256

You revisionist niggers need to fucking kill yourselves. The fact there was NO mention of Zero when they were going over Star Fox's history proves that game was an embarrassment and a mistake. If you genuinely think that game was good you need to donate your brains to science after you kill yourselves.
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assault had too few levels that were too long. There should have been more levels that were shorter, than some form of branching paths. It had some good ideas but as a complete package it falls short.
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>>738482670
I agree in terms of direction. And I think devs got the wrong lesson thinking that Star fox should be nothing more than arcade shooters on rails when actually almost every console shooter at the time (especially japanese made and especially on the gamecube) was trash. It felt like a natural progression for the series and reminiscent of star wars. Like people didn't screech because luke did things outside of an X-wing. And what's even more confusing to me is that if it had to be a 3D space shooter, why did they regress instead of looking at what 3D space and flight games were doing. This series has this dogmatic adherence to a gameplay style that feels more like a 15 dollar xbox live arcade game than anything worth full price. This is why fox will always be the smash guy and why we have to repeat this mistake every 10 years.
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>>738493854
it's a piece of shit, gyro would've worked for movement, not for aiming.
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what was this thing and why did Star Fox attack it unprovoked
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>>738482670
Assault ruined the series.
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>>738494249
>unprovoked
slippy doesn't deserve to be forgotten dude.
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>>738482820
>Assault kinda sucked.
This.

Getting out of the vehicle accomplishes nothing. Even if you excuse the awful ground controls, it was just trying to mimic Halo as opposed to giving a real point to the mandatory walking sections. The game would be far better if there was just an Arwing/Landmaster transformation and the game had reasons to go Landmaster in sections and Arwing in others.

Also, it was basically a short linear game with a lot of pointless dialogue between stages. I'm not sure what OP would see in SF Assault as a "good direction for the franchise".

>>738482670
Give me one thing that Assault does well that isn't just taken from an earlier Star Fox game, which would be good to see in future titles.
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>>738493865
>ywn play with krystal on unreal tournament
why live
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>>738494249
>what was this thing
Bioweapon
>and why did Star Fox attack it unprovoked
Bioweapon
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>>738486524
im retarded. How does she goes down this path instead of cucking Fox by joining Wolf team?
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>>738493854
When you're using the gyro controls to shoot in a cone area in front of you at medium distance or further, Zero's controls are perfect. When they keep putting targets more than 45 degrees away from center or point blank in front of you -which happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME- it's genuinely awful.
For me the only way to find success was to turn the gamepad 90 degrees AWAY from the target and hit the recenter button. That way I could hold the gamepad in a natural position and still aim at the target sitting off the screen directly above, below, or to either side of you.

In short, you'll have fun until the stage turns to all-range mode and tells you to do anything other than dogfight.
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>>738487675
>The hate for Assault feels genuinely contrarian.
Because it is. There's literally ONE furry autist from reddit driving most of the hate, and you can tell because he has a very noticeable posting style once you've seen enough of him. And even after trying to get a genuine dialogue with him in past threads to articulate why he doesn't like the game, his reasoning boil down to "I don't like it" or "It's not that good." But he clearly hasn't even played it.

At this point though, he knows he's infamous enough that he seems to relish wandering into Assault threads (or probably even making them himself) just to bait replies. Kind of like our resident retarded tripfag with the Krystal hatred.
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>>738494328
Is krystal even good?
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>screaming nintendy railing against nintendo for correctly operating as a functioning company

assault was beans anyway the new one looks amazing. gotta look at the graphics to realize it's in-engine, it looks amazing, and that means that Nintendo has finally come to be approaching their game design with "next gen" look and feel.
basically they're finally making games with awesome graphics for their IPs, which had been a struggle as a nintendo fan after the gamecube for essentially skipping and being held back a generation for the Wii.

It is exciting to imagine again. What might an actual zelda game look like?
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>>738482670
Why does it look like she's wearing a butt plug?
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>>738494325
>Give me one thing that Assault does well that isn't just taken from an earlier Star Fox game, which would be good to see in future titles.
We all know you're just going to say "No, that doesn't count because [retard babble]" like you always do.
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>>738494328
All those arena games really disappointed me with the coomer model selection. There was like a hot Harley Quinn user mod in Quake 3 but everything else was just not very exciting. Maybe if they got that right, the genre would still exist.
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I loved Star Fox Adventure.
Felt extremely unique. I know I was just a kid and I didn't have a baseline to understand what was good and what wasn't.
But the game felt so unique to me. Filled with charm, it was filled with mystery that I wanted to explore and discover.
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>>738493197
Good thing I'm a white guy with a penis so I can play with ai toys judgment free
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>>738494487
>blaming things on an internet boogieman when there they can't figure out how else to defend Assault
Like clockwork.
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>>738482670
Are they going to be putting Adventures and Assault on the Virtual Console or...
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>>738486524
Animal characters having boobs will never not look weird to me
You're right that it's a cool uniform though, I do like it
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>>738494616
You bothered to reply with that and not an actual talking point? Tisk tisk
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>>738494718
100 bucks per language. Dinosaur counts as a separate language.
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>>738494718
Adventures is likely. Assault less so.
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>>738494616
So give me one thing that Assault does well that isn't just taken from an earlier Star Fox game. Go ahead. Prove me wrong. Make me look like an idiot.

We're all waiting.
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>>738494718
I was really hoping that direct would end with a surprise "btw we're putting Assault on Switch 2 Online because lol"
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WHY THE FUCK IS FALCO FLYING OUT OF FORMATION

GET IT TOGETHER FOX
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>>738495001
Im not sure nintendo will revisit assault when Namco owns part of it.
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>>738493452
Learn the definition of cinematic, sealion.
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>>738494939
So give me one thing that Star Fox Zero does well that isn't just taken from an earlier Star Fox game. Go ahead. Prove me wrong. Make me look like an idiot.

We're all waiting.
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>>738495112
You're saying assault isnt cinematic?
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>>738495048
>Krystal comes in from offscreen to fix the formation
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>>738486594
I remember KIU being the first big 3DS game. Thought it did better.
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>chicken walker was fine but needed to improve on the design
>next one, fox gets a mech instead
maybe?
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>>738482670
The seamless transition from on foot to Arwing is fucking incredible.
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>>738493452
>Prove it
How nigga
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>>738488403
>Why do you feel the need to lie?
You're on 4chan. People lie here all the time.
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>>738495363
Jumping in and out of vehicles is hardly an innovative thing for that game. It wasnt even done the best in the game either.
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How do you make on rail segments fun? maybe they could make it a bullet hell?
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>>738495608
Bullet hells suck
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>>738495131
>Make me look like an idiot.
This is a thread about Star Fox Assault, we're talking about Assault, and the topic is about what Assault can change or improve the Star Fox formula. Suddenly talking about what Star Fox Zero did well, poorly, or differently isn't relevant to that discussion, and even if you claimed that Zero had some amazing ideas, it wouldn't make Star Fox Assault more relevant or worth taking material to create new games.
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>>738495824
>Didn't answer the question.
I accept your concession.
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>>738495824
Good post idiot
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>>738495608
>>738495801
And 3D bullet hells are even worse.

What's wrong with the on-rails shooter parts the way they were in 64?
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>>738495001
Same. I feel like if they put Adventures and Assault on the VC, then people would be willing to give those games a chance, and people may actually form opinions on it instead of regurgitating talking points from a YouTuber.
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>>738496645
Let's turn Star Fox into a 3D bullet hell where you control the Arwing in all-range mode.
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>>738495102
You act like Namco is some jilted, bitter ex when Nintendo gets all their games these days, and they even let them use all the Xenosaga stuff for Takahashi’s newest iteration of “never-ending autistic sci-fi wank”.
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>>738482670
Agreed, even if I'd prefer another adventures with a gun but it's basically a Zelda clone anyway
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>sakurai gives nintendo the absolute fucking perfect format for a new star fox game with Kid Icarus: Uprising
>Nintendo shits out more 64 rehashing instead
>three fucking times in a row
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>>738497963
We need 64 retellings of 64.
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I think they should take another stab at the strategy angle.
>Game's premise is some big bad force a some new extra-galactic force.
>Prologue describes Star Fox encountered the new threat and contact was lost.
>Months later, Fox is awaken from a coma. He's briefed by ROB and Slippy that this new threat almost wiped them all out. Slippy doesn't know the whereabouts of the rest of the squad, but the galaxy is essentially occupied by the new threat with small resistance cells.
>Game's premise is to take back the galaxy one system at a time, with hopes of reclaiming Lylat.
>Complete missions to gain control of planets, eventually aiming for the main planet to take control of the system.
>Missions range from Air/space, surface, and underwater missions.
>Great Fox is gone, and Slippy scrapped together a new command center that slowly expands over time.
>Slippy was able to keep one Arwing. Star Fox will have to make due with what they can acquire.
>A variety of space fighters, tanks, water vehicles, and mechs can be acquired from completing missions.
>Pivotal story missions will be more on the on-rails sections that the series is known for. Side missions will be more all-range modes with some implementing a mixture of vehicles.
>Choose your crew to take on missions. Story will slowly bring new and old faces alike to help Star Fox on their journey. Each party member has their own strengths/weaknesses, and specific vehicle prowess.
>On foot sections return. Some battles will be fought on the ground or in some ship-boarding action.
>An assortment of factions to assist, from Cornerian remnants, Neo Venom, and some factions new to the series.
>Multiple endings influenced by the factions you assist. Is there a way for everyone to pull together?
>Race minigame. Take to the raceways, skyways, and waterways as Fox can participate in a variety of vehicular races. Rumor has it that there's an ace pilot?
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>>738482670
no. kys disgusting cubie
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>>738497963
You can thank Miyamoto for that, by the way.
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>>738497963
>same stage count as KIU, but divide it up across 3-5 routes and maybe add a few extra railshooter-only stages in there
>reframe the weapon system and fox and crew picking up weapon modules from defeated enemies to customize their own gear
>include the KI:U multiplayer mode almost entirely unchanged except for making a character creator system
Instant 5 gorillion dollars.
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>>738498316
My life changed once I realized Kazooie was a girl.
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>>738494328
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we need Adventures TWO (2)
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>>738498901
And guess who else is a girl?
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>>738489628
Wrong. She’s built for human shotas.
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>>738482670
a thread on /v/ that's objectively CORRECT?!

Seriously though if you're a SF fan who's never played Assault and are tired of them remaking 64 for the fourth time you would probably love this. It had a surprisingly well written/dark story that was a proper sequel to both Adventures and SF 64
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The series needs a prequel far more then it needs another reboot or shitty sequel. Give me a game about James, Peppy and Pigma and have them do actual merc shit. Give it an honor system like Ace Combat Zero. Most important of all make it an arcade railshooter devoid of any stupid gimmicks, just solid balls to the wall action. It's really not that fucking hard.
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blue ass
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>>738489042
>He never left the Arwing
Not even to go to the bathroom?
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>>738494014
>he says this when there was NO MENTION OF ASSAULT
kys, delete thread
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Never played this series besides Assault matches against my friends
Decided to play Star Fox on the SNES
This game is pretty good. Moves a lot quicker than I thought it would and I love doing a barrel roll.
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>>738482670
I just want Star Fox 64 with new planets, new routes, and new bosses.


Why is that so hard.
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>>738484126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwchN4_yR5E
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>>738499467
>Give it an honor system like Ace Combat Zero
More games need the morality stuff. It would make since for characters like Pigma too in co-op who'll blow up anything for a buck.
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>>738482670
Having recently replayed Star Fox 2 and Assault, Star Fox 2 actually did ground combat better. You had a nice mix of shooting enemies and light puzzle solving that just offers more variety on top of truly being seamless with all-range Arwing gameplay. I wanted a new SF game to be a sequel to 64 with all of the best ideas from it, the SNES original and Star Fox 2, with a healthy mix of rail shooting and open levels with varied objectives with branching paths in between, and a collection of returning and new planets/zones, so it's disappointing that they're just falling back on a 64 remake with new cutscenes.
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acknowledge it
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>>738500681
I like the starships.
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>>738500681
You can unlock James
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>>738500886
He is certainly a character.
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>>738494743
Were you just raised without having witnessed cartoons, or what?
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>>738498965
brb reinstalling unreal tourney
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>>738494743
we need to fix you.
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>>738501184
No I witnessed them and they looked weird to me back then too
Admittedly I didn't like how most cartoons looked anyways, but still
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blud out here hating on furry tetas
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Is there a reason nobody ever talks about SF2? I know it was "canceled" but they eventually released it on the SNES mini and you could emulate it.

Unfortunately the SNES Starfox games give me motion sickness. But seemingly this game has a lot of cool shit in it + the spritework looks amazing + Miyu and Fey are cute.
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>>738500886
I can play James anytime I want.
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>>738485658
>dishonest bullshit, if they rereleased it on switch everyone would love it
Only if they radically overhauled the game. Disassociating aim from direction should be a gyro aim feature as a bonus. The crosshair should be properly calibrated for aerial combat, the gameplay modified to de-emphasize the gamepad requirements if not altered to remove them altogether, and shit like the Gyrowing effectively has no good justification for keeping in the game besides as level padding. Especially once the Walker can do everything the Gyrowing does but better. If you left Zero as is with at best a screen swap button or mini-screen, it would get panned today too and still sell like shit.
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>>738495102
Namco owns part of Smash Bros and co-developed the later games. Like, do you think Nintendo lives in a vacuum here?
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>>738494624
May I see Filia dick pic?
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>>738482670
I legit don't think anyone knows what to do with Star Fox, not even Nintendo themselves
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>>738487675
You don't play enough games. Assault is not universally loved by first time players whereas 64 is an evergreen player favorite game. Assault fucking sucks dude. Remove the starfox characters and the game is a 4/10 game. If you remove the starfox characters from 64 you still have a 7.5 game for gameplay alone as a competent rail shooter.
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>>738502125
Star Fox is an experimental game for Nintendo
>Adventure if seeing if they can turn an IP to a completely different Genre
>Command is branching storyline and rail on your demand
>Zero is that retarded control
>Now we have realistic animal meme that ruin Pikachu Detective
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I want Star Fox Adventures 2. Minimal Arwing sections, all 3D adventure on some Rareware style animal planet with a city. Bring back Krystal with her own campaign. That's all.
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>>738502378
Fuck off, Patch
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>>738489042
If the remake does the required running to scramble the fighters opening cinematic it is going to look fucking hilarious with the nightmare dwarf legs.
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>>738501771
Nobody fucking played it. It wasn't available until 30 years after the fact. By then, no one gave a fuck. If it Actually came out in 94 people would talk about it all the time.
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>>738501184
Gooby's wife looks like that and he still bothers to fuck Minnie?
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>>738502630
That's Pete's wife.
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>>738502583
the beta roms were kicking around for ages ye fackin noob
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>>738502390
Wouldn't that also apply to FZero as well?
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>>738502583
People definitely played it. Surely it's better than Assault or Command?
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>>738502402
Yes but give it to someone else, Rare always sucked at 3D
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>>738482670
I never played Assault, should I give it a try if I enjoy third person shooters?
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So Miyamoto made his daughter marry the Star Fox dev so he could completely take over the ip, right?
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>>738499935
>Fox can’t yiff because be has to do his taxes
Grim.
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>>738482670
Star Fox was designed to be a very replayable rail shooter. That's the core of it. The problem is that rail shooters, like all arcade games, fell out of favor with normalfags who demanded games with hundreds of hours in a single playthrough and no challenge allowed. The current generation of gamers wants the opposite of whatever arcade games are, and rail shooters naturally fell prey to that alongside shmups and bmups.
It's easy to turn Star Fox into a "modern franchise". It's a story about shooting niggas in space; half of the industry is built around that premise. However, simply turning Star Fox into a shooter completely loses its identity. What's the point of making a Star Fox game that doesn't play like Star Fox? Make a Metroid game then, that would be a better fit.
I think the only way to make a game that "feels" like Star Fox is to make a space sim, kinda like No Man's Sky or Starfield, but with an emphasis on space combat instead of exploration. That's the only evolution that feels natural to me
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>>738502869
1/2 is flying, 3/6 is Walking, 2/6 is Landmaster, 1/6 is Fox on the Wolf
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>>738489042
Is it even possible to do a route without getting in the Landmaster or Blue Marine?
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>>738503145
Interesting calculations
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>>738502869
No, because it's a shitty barebones third-person shooter.
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>>738482670
No, it was trash. They just need to make a part 2/sequel to 64 with:
-New worlds
-No motion/TPS/touch garbage gimmicks
-Delete Adventures from the canon and make Fox and Krystal meet in a different way
-Make part 3 with Fox passing the baton to someone else/a new Star Fox team. Could be his son as well, like Command's ending.
That's all.
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>>738503431
You seem tense.
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>>738503426
Typical brain activity of an assault defender.
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>>738482670
I agree. Assault was the future of the franchise and the best game in the series.
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>>738503463
>Delete Adventures
No.
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>>738487610
>Nobody acknowledges the Landmaster
Macbeth is one of the most universally loved Star Fox levels
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>>738503531
yeah
what does it bring to the series besides Krystal
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>>738502695
The most popular one people played was unpolished and the difficulty was completely nonexistent because most enemy AI was still in debug mode and the lock-on Charge Shot was totally busted, on top of stuff like Bombs not working at all, so it was hard to form a definitive opinion of the game for the longest time.
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>everything about this series was actually garbage except for THING that newest entry is captilizing which is for the ACTUAL FANS
Now where have I heard this brand of shillfaggotry before...
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>>738503652
Dinosaur Planet.
The eternal annoyance of retards who can't handle different gameplay.
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The one thing Command got right is branching pathways that lead to different endings. That's how you develop the series without leaving the rail shooter genre. Just give people enough reasons to replay the game as much as possible - have secret objectives, choices in story cutscenes, etc. Make all of it lead to different outcomes and different endings. And then add a golden ending for the no continue hard difficulty playthrough.
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>>738503751
if I want to play the Zelda series I'd just go play Zelda, Beyond Good & Evil, or Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy, not Star Fox
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New planets. New bosses.
Same Arwing. Same Landmaster. Some all-range mode.

All I want.
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>>738502676
But that doesn't stop him.
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>>738503095
This anon gets it. Star Fox isn't far removed from something like Space Harrier, and imagine trying to adapt that for a wider audience? Few genres can attempt the leap and make the landing. On the rail arcadey shooters are a little more tricky design wise without just making it a completely different game.
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>>738503829
>The eternal annoyance of retards
>Responds in annoyance
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>>738503426
If there one thing it does well, it has variety.
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>take starfox 64
>record a whole new bunch of wacky voice lines
>change the map, all the levels and unlock requirements for other levels
>keep everything else the game
why didnt they just do this?
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>>738503840
Sadly that's exactly what Nintendo won't do. They won't even touch the same basic gameplay unless it's a fucking reboot.
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>>738503992
Effort.
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>>738503463
Infrared sensor motion aiming with the Wii Remote with Nunchuk to steer the ship could've been great, Nintendo was just retarded and didn't feel like making a Wii Star Fox game. Even gyro aiming would've worked for Zero if Shiggy Miggy didn't go full retard with shitty control scheme that forced you to tilt the gamepad to absurd angles to aim at shit at different edges of the screen on top of splitting the fucking piloting and aiming views.
>>738503652
Krystal was never a positive for the series for anyone besides furries
>>738503751
>>738503903
Dinosaur Planet was worse than even the most mediocre 3D Zeldas, lame puzzles and shitty braindead easy combat. Don't know what to tell you, retard.
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I'm convinced that depreciating Assault is a way to gatekeep it into being an hidden gem

Protip: Play it upscaled to see its real potential
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>>738504068
You seem annoyed.
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>>738504109
Even if I was, in a few minutes I would no longer be, while you'd still be retarded
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>>738503816
Except it failed on making it a Rail Shooter, iirc only the fish boss could be called that, the rest was "destroy X amount of enemies in All-Range mode" or "Go through some rings and destroy the missile"
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I just wanted to say something that needed to be said.

I love Krystal.

Kind regards.
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>>738504068
You know who else was never a positive for the series besides furries? Everyone else
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>>738494682
Nah he's right on this one. There's a genuine poopdickschizo here.
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>>738504164
Somehow I doubt that.
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>>738503751
No reason to play a wannabe Zelda if Ys, Okami and Alundra already exist. Especially a trash one like this game.
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i've played star fox snes, the old leaked beta of 2 (aware they finally released it on the mini) and 64. what other ones dont suck?
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>>738504262
The only schizos are people who in good faith think assault is a good game. It's fine to like Krystal, acceptable even. It's retarded to pretend that your teenage lust equates to every game with her presence in it being a good game.
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>>738504314
Plenty of reason. It's called "Because they felt like it."
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>>738504315
Assault
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>>738504378
>It's retarded to pretend that your teenage lust equates to every game with her presence in it being a good game.
Which is why Star Fox is a shitty series, because it is entirely run on furry homo lust.
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>>738503840
They'd rather publish five more Kirby or Yoshi rehashes.
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>>738504315
Kid Icarus Uprising
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While it's boring that we get another 64 remake (which is just a remake of another game)
Public interest went high for Star Fox after that terrible movie, it helped that he was one of the stand out characters in it. I think putting something out like Adventure, Assault, or Zero would be a wrong move. Doing a updated 64 is a safer bet than trying to go experimental or push the envelope on a franchise that historically has been fairly niche (compared to other Nintendo franchises). While I'm not a fan of it, I sadly understand where Nintendo is coming from, but hey it'd be cool if they added something to it.
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>>738504254
>Imamura: Miyamoto and I were both aiming to add a little sex appeal, I guess? I think Miyamoto’s always wanted to add that flavor.
>—Really?! (laughs)
>Imamura: I think somewhere in his mind, Miyamoto’s always pictured Star Fox as somewhat mature, and he’s been saying things like “wouldn’t it be good to add a slightly sexy character?” since the beginning. Likewise, for Starfox 64, although the game certainly appeals to children somewhat, I think Miyamoto felt that leaning fully into that would be going too far, and he wanted to add some more mature touches where possible.
>aiming to add
>wouldn't it be good to add
Retard
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>>738504315
>ive played all the boring ones
then you're good to go
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>>738487103
Read period-appropiate reviews. It was outdated when it came out. And by outdated I mean objectively shit and only comparable to mid to bad games that people like to forget.
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>>738504315
Assault is ok but the rest suck. Play the finished version of 2 if you're curious but avoid Normal difficulty unless you're a completionfag, Hard unlocks Expert with a high enough score.
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>>738504378
The only time I had fun with Assault was playing 4 player death match with my friends. The actual campaign sucks.
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>>738504586
Or they could've just...ignored everything after 64 and actually made a proper seauel to it for once. Literally just tell newcomers and little babies about "the story so far" and tell them where they can play the SNES games and 64.
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>>738504891
Yeah, it was meant to be entirely multiplayer but it got booed at E3 and they scrambled to add a story mode, which is why the on-foot segments are so repetitive and the game only has one route through to the end.
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>>738504640
>Miyamoto wanted Krystal to be sexy since day 1
Ok.... and? That still isnt stopping furries from sexualizing the guys as much as they are doing to her even to this day. But 64fags will turn a blind eye to the men becuase they came from the 'right' games and Krystal did not.
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>>738505068
>That still isnt stopping furries from sexualizing the guys as much as they are doing to her even to this day. But 64fags will turn a blind eye to the men becuase they came from the 'right' games and Krystal did not.
Who gives a shit? None of that gay trash is actually present in the games. You fucking Krystal yiffers I swear.
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Assault feels like a direct-to-video sequel of 64 and Adventures, and I don't even like Adventures.Really cheap, pointless and low budget sequel.
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>>738505164
Nobody is completely nude in games either, you fucking Fox yiffers I swear.
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>>738505247
Tricky is buttnaked
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>>738505390
He's an animal, you sick fuck.
Yes, I know he talks, but that doesn't stop people from making this argument.
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>>738505164
>Who gives a shit? None of that gay trash is actually present in the games

That's not the point you retard. The point is that 64fags are hypocrites calling Krystal a furrybait character, but not for the rest of the cast since they too are all furry bait. And no, you dont need fanservice to attract furries to your series. Just be a prominent, animalistic character and you automatically attract furries whether you intend to or not.
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>>738482670
Could have sworn the third configuration was completely retarded. I used the middle one.
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>>738482670

I'm surprised when people are shocked at mediocrity from Nintendo.

Just because something is shittier than something that was already mediocre,
doesn't mean that the starting mediocre thing was good.

It just means that what came afterwards was even worse.

Fondness for something is not the same as quality.
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>>738505497
>tricky is an animal
He's the prince of the earthwalkers
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>>738505575
Quadruped means animal. That's what all the retards on the internet taught me.
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>>738482670
I don´t see why this its so divisive, annoying ground missions aside, I think it was very good, not as good as 64 but still very good. Then again, I was a kid when I played it, but its not as if I didn´t have standards because I hated Command.
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>>738505634
I honestly don't know how they managed to secure the throne, but doesn't he have special abilities? They might not have had the need to become bipedal when they can breathe fire.
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>>738505515
>And no, you dont need fanservice to attract furries to your series. Just be a prominent, animalistic character and you automatically attract furries whether you intend to or not.
who
fucking
cares
It's not a hypocritical to like things that have cartoon animal people in them while also ripping on furries whenever they share stupid opinions online. This shit isn't rocket science, you're just mad because Krystal was prohably your first waifu or some shit.
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>>738488106
but do we really?
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>>738482670
I know what you are...
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>>738501771
Took way too long to come out, came out one year after Star Fox Zero (three if you didn't own a SNES Classic and waited for the NSO release), released to no fanfare because Nintendo had no intention of releasing it.
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so what will krystal look like if adventures/assault get remade? im thinking pic related but standing up and fully clothed. they definitely arent gonna let her wear a skimpy outfit
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>>738502781
All F-Zero games are arcade-style racing games. Not a single one deviates from this genre, including 99.
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>>738505849
>who fucking cares
You obsiously do. If you didn't you wouldn't single her and only her out as furry bait.
>It's not a hypocritical to like things that have cartoon animal people in them while also ripping on furries whenever they share stupid opinions online
And yet you're the one thinking she's a 'negative' to the series. Literally no different than 64fags who seethe over her to this day thinking she 'killed' the franchise.
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>>738506220
They'll just give her her uniform from Command >>738486524
ez
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>>738505849
No no no... you don't get it.... YOU HAVE to be a furry to like Starfox, anon. The game literally can't function without the gameplay and animals intertwined.

....

GOD DAMN WHERE IS MY MASS EFFECT STARFOX GAME?
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>>738506220
If the adventure game rumor is true, I could see that game being Krystal centered. And I could see her still in tribal clothes, but with a more cuter design.
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>>738506321
No I meant like experiments for each console.
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>>738506336
64fags that blame Krystal for killing the franchise are retarded, I'm not because I recognize it's always just been Nintendo/Miyamoto being retarded and using the franchise to test concepts amd gimmicks nobody asked for instead of making sequels that play similar at a base level but have different levels or game structure...oh wait they did that already with the second game that they canceled because whatever dumbass reason until they dug it up too late for most people to truly appreciate what it did.



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