The new Star Fox designs are shit. They don't look like puppets they look like uncanny abominations. The legs especially are egregious because they're fucking tiny on Fox and Falco so they look stupid as bipeds. It's even more stupid because Peppy and Slippy don't even have animal accurate legs, Peppy should be plantigrade and Slippy still has the same legs as before.
>>738488154>Nintendo fans make fun of HD fan games that lose all sense of art direction>Nintendo makes a HD game that loses all sense of art direction>fans suddenly come up with random reasons to defend that while completely forgetting the first part
>>738488335>muh art direction And it's star fox command model
>>738488154Anyone defending the new style is just coping. They see more detail and automatically think it's good. I'm betting the game will sell worse than Metroid Prime 4.
>>738488154You wanting to fuck them isn't the point.
Indeed, they should have gone a step further and just made them actual animals.
>>738488480I want characters that are interesting to look at not uncanny models proportioned and rigged in a way to support face tracking. Watching these dwarves walk around with their little stump legs looks dumb as fuck. Go fuck yourself you retard.
>>738488639>NOOOOOO I CANT FUCK THEM ITS RUINEDStar Fox (Switch 2) is a gift.
>>738488716I'm not buying the game, better buy a second copy to make up for the loss
>>738488154"They look like the puppets!" and "furries are seething!" are very obviously the lines that Nintendo has instructed their shills to go with for damage control. Never saw either of those non-arguments during the initial reaction but a couple hours later they started being inorganically forced into every thread about this.
Who's gonna buy it because you're starved for more SF and you hope it will make these lazy fucks stop rebooting 64?
>>738488821well the second statement is essentially reacting to furries being mad so it makes sense you wouldn't see it until furries started getting mad
>>738488910This game is actively contributing to me not buying a Switch 2 at all
>>738488821>and "furries are seethingThat's legitimately a good thing though. they can yiff in hell.
Holy shit guys look they redesigned Krystal for the new game!
>I cant imagine them as le daddy fuccing my boipussy like this!!!can you people please die
>>738488393>Brooooo that new SM 64 remake looks fucking siiiick>art style? get that shit out of my face, we're all about realism for realism sake now.
>>738489045>furfags having a mental breakdown over a blue dog thingThis is great.
>>738488154they look like gritty real world animals in a strange scifi setting, which was always the point.it's a type of scifi that was popular in the late 70s and 80s and heavily influenced Star Fox. we're now going back, and it's fantastic.
>>738488639The legs are the only thing I don't like. I like the realism, though. If you have an issue with realistic looking animals that's a you problem. I'm tired of the toony shit.
>>738489269>they look like gritty real world animals in a strange scifi setting, which was always the point.They don't but keep coping
>>738489312they do, so much so that it's making weirdos uncomfortable. you can dislike the style but that is unquestionably what they're going for and they obvious succeeded
>>738489271>I like the realism, though. If you have an issue with realistic looking animals that's a you problemThey aren't realistic which is why it looks especially stupid. Fox has human arms and hands attached to a stumpy fox body, Falco has feather fingers, etc. It looks uncanny.>I'm tired of the toony shit.Realistic graphics always age like crap>>738489371There is no style, it looks like it was designed by AI
>>738489427>video games>agingZoom zoom
>>738489492For games aiming for a "realistic" look yeah
>>738489549Video games don't age they aren't biological beings.
Slippy got the worst of it. They should have at least given him his toad bar eyes like he had in SNES and 64 until Command shat all over the designs
>>738489673They sure can look bad though relative to later games
>>738489786That doesn't stop the game from being likeable.
The controversy around the graphics is overshadowing just how awful the new voice acting is.
>>738489845this
>>738489845Yeah I would rather listen to AIs trained on sf64 voices than the shit in this.
>>738489840The game is 64 but with new graphics and cinematics. You can get the same gameplay from the original. This is actually a movie game from Nintendo with western sensibilities.
>>738488480they're weird to look at. period
>>738489845Sorry anon we but we have to highly generic and sanitized voice over to be inclusive as well as removing all that yucky and dated dialogue from the original
>>738488154they all look in their mid 40's which is actually appropriate because motherfucker I played this game in 1993 a week after release and had a blast and I think the devs are laughing just like I am these are BATTLE HARDENED VETERANS and maybe Nintendo will do something remarkable and bring an ADULT edge to the series like a REAL FUCKING SPACE OPERA (I know it won't be done but a guy can wish)
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>>738488154>Peppy should be plantigradeRabbits (and hares) are digitigrade. Peppy's legs should be long as fuck though.
>>738491549>Rabbits (and hares) are digitigradeNo they're plantigrade.
>>738488639This is even worse. You turned him from an implausible cartoon animal into a 6heads tall manlet.
>>738488154Oh well.
>>738488154I'm loving it, I can't wait for the new generation of kids seeing real starfox.
>>738491680Anon, digitigrade refers to gait during locomotion, not at rest, and rabbits have digitigrade gait during locomotion. You might as well say that dogs are plantigrade because they sit the same way.
>>738491762Fox was always a manlet and he was always a cartoon animal
>>738488154I think they look great.
>>738491892He was a cartoon manlet, though. He straight up looks like a Filipino in a costume in that edit.
>>738491881Rabbits also aren't bipedal
>>738491983Or are they?
You won’t even see their feet most of the time
Someone please find an ugly shot of Fox from the Galaxy movie
>>738488154Peppy is a 4chan icon
>>738488639This looks way better wtf
>>738488154Big chungus if he real
>>738491925Desu the designs would be fine if not for the tiny heavy weapon's guy legs and the hunchback posture that they apparently have.
>>738492390Most of designs would be better if they weren't trying to look realistic
>>738488154He’s so fuckable its unbelievable how good his design is>>738492348Yeah a sex icon
>>738492465>DO AN HERO!
>>738492220Shortlived game
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>>738491892Krystal got retconned to being shorter in assault and command.
no krystal no buy
if your primary concern for Star Fox is how the characters look you are the reason Star Fox will never have a good game again
>>738493684The voices are awful, and its the exact same game from 30 years ago with an unreal engine default coat of paint
>>738493684There's nothing to say about the game because the levels are the same as 64
>>738488639can't fucking wait for these designs to be used in smash
>>738493998sureI can accept complaints that the arwings look fucking terribleI can accept complaints that a remake of 64 again is dumb and we should get a sequelI can accept complaints that they shouldn't have made more fucking cinematics and the last thing Starfox 64 ever needed were sections where the whole starfox team sat around in the great fox and yapped at each otherI can accept the butchering of the script and poor VAworkbut if the singular thing you want to complain about is how these furries who appear in tiny boxes during the actual game and you barely look at while spouting silly lines appears, you are useless
>>738488464I sure fucking hope you're right, I'd rather the franchise stay dead than these designs sticking around, sometimes dead is better.
>>738494165>the singular thing you want to complain about is how these furries who appear in tiny boxes during the actual game and you barely look at while spouting silly lines appears, you are uselessThey're adding cutscenes to the game. The entire point of the game is to be a Nintendo cinematic movie game we're going to see the characters more.
>>738492367If there's anything I'll give this game it's making people hate digitigrade legs, they've been ruining my furry porn since times immemorial
>>738494351and everyone who wants that is, again, what has killed star fox as a franchisethese campy little cartoon meme characters were never meant to be taken seriously and all attempts to do so are a jokeLess is more
star fox has never had a consistent art style
>>738493684If people didn't complain about Donte we wouldn't have gotten DMCV
>>738488639Id fuck them yall are cowards
>>738488154>WHY AREN'T THEY HOT! I CAN'T GET HARD! STOP THIS I HATE IT!!
>>738494459You are a gay boy. Digitigrade is best grade.
>>738494513Command and Zero shared the same designs
>>738494465Nah, the people who killed star fox were the ones that kept saying for 20 years "just make 64 again" instead of letting the franchise evolve, well, you got what you fucking wanted, enjoy
>>738494705"Make another game in the style of 64" doesn't mean "just make 64 again"
>>738494552completely different scenarioDonte's appearance was far from the only thing bad about that game, and DMC always carried itself on the charisma of Dante as a character and always had a focus on him, his story, and his melodramatics and crazy anticsStarfox 64 was a collection of basic tropes that framed simple characters for a tight arcade experience and didn't try to write complex crap.>>738494705They have literally never given what people who say that want. Starfox 64 but new levels. That's it. They've never done that, ever. Zero was the closest they got and it's still a remake and you have to put up with garbage gimmicks to even play it. There's nothing complicated. Make a NEW 64 successor. Not a remake.
you're caught contradicting.hahahahahahahaaaaahahahahahahahahahasaved perpetually forever into the internetbacktraced and socially ID'd by the AIlmfaot. gonna get a switch 2 just for starfoxgotta evolve and adapt, little n*ggas.
>>738494465It seems clear to me Star Fox was always a child of space opera - a parody, yes, but a heartfelt one. They're been pushing in that direction for decades because it was an influence apparent from the very beginning with the dramatically lit puppets against a cosmic background, but the technology was not there to do it justice. I don't really get the resistance to it. It's not suddenly some God of War press X to awesome slop just because the game has a few extra movie clips in it. It's just a rail shooter with artsy visuals.The Subspace Emissary was kino.
>>738488335They always do this they make flattering off model fan art and say shit like "it was actually always meant to be this way"
>>738488716>can't criticize a bad design because porn eroded brains in humanoid shells are convinced it stems from a place of sexual attraction or lack thereof
>>738494917The first three starfox games - the only truly good ones - were the most stripped down space opera there is. I love space operas, a lot. They aren't really that though. They were actually predominantly about the tech and gameplay first and the characters were made to be fun and colourful to entice children, but nowhere in there is there a secret epic. It's just basic framework surrounding incredibly tight gameplay. The Starfox "universe" doesn't have any depth whatsoever, it's all cardboard cutouts when you look deeper. Or more accurately, you see the puppet strings.
>>738493684No. It will never have a "good game" again because Nintendo has no vision or direction for the series. They don't know what they want, and cannot discern that the fanbase comprises different fans who want different things.If they did, 2 never would have been cancelled, and 64 wouldn't have been a reimagining of the Lylat War setting, and probably not even a reboot.64 had the peak gameplay in spite of its flaws, and Assault had the best trajectory going forward for all aspects of a game.It needed to be iterated on in a better way. Command killed the series by flanderizing the characters and turning the story into a parody of itself, for the most part, If it the story was solid, there wouldn't have been a third reboot for the series.They should have played it straight following the characterization that Adventures and Assault brought, and then a follow-up to Command should have focused on having variety between arcade stages and character action stages.They could have eventually settled on a formula that would have satisfied on setting, plot, aesthetics, and especially gameplay.The aesthetics we have with 2026, as well as it being a remake of 64, are symptoms of Nintendo lacking a compelling vision of the series.The best case scenario is that they have a new Star Fox, well-planned and well-designed, with compelling characters, visuals, and sound, and 2026 is simply to gauge interest in the feasability of dedicating increased resources to completing such an abitious project, and poor sales performance will make this hypothetical new game a lower priority, but still inevitable release.The worse case scenario is that 2026 is all Nintendo has to offer, and will take in the right feedback to make future titles compelling, let alone worthwhile and underrated, and therefore niche.Nintendo needs the right personnel at its helm. Instead it's doing what the rest of industry is doing, but with its IPs.
>>738495124I mean, Star Wars isn't that deep either (the original). It's a classic good versus evil plot. George Lucas was inspired by mythology and epics, which often feature pretty simple or "archetypal" characters in worlds where a lot of the lore is left to the imagination, and it's more about the big picture feel of the thing. I don't see any contradiction with Star Fox being barebones and also epic, I think it kinda helps. Getting "deep" often kills aura.
>>738488154I would have agreed with you two days ago anon, but now that I look at it more, I have begun to really like them BECAUSE the yare utterly repulsive.They dont look like the starfox puppets, but they DO look like jim henson kinohorror. I vividly recall being utterly disturbed by dark crystal as a child which eventually developed into utter fascination with the style, ultimately becoming a strange admiration for how absolutely unique it was, especially compared to the kiddie stuff from henson.These designs feel like that gross "how did this get past the censors" stuff that used to define the childhoods of gen x and y.
>>738494163Sakurai is probably going to refuse on account of not wanting to redesign their moves to make them work.
I really don't understand the hate for Star Fox Zero. I'm not a huge star fox fan or rail shooters in general but out of all of them Zero was by far the most polished and fun even for an outsider to the franchise like me>The controlsWasn't even bad, if anything the gyro makes it way more accurate and alleviates the frustration of having to flick your crosshair back and forth and spam shooting hoping you hit your target
>>738495618It was literally:"Why are the controls so shit?" Even though the only thing making them "shit" was having to be able to track two displays at once.If someone claims the controls were a problem and dont specify that complaint to be about the walker (which used an unfortunate tank control setup that didnt really work), they either didnt play the game or legitimately arent evolved enough to use their peripheral vision.
>>738495610Jim Henson had a real propensity for big hairy things, this just isn't scratching that same itch though.I want a damn Jim Henson UNDERTALE movie. That is all.
Glad Krystal is sitting this one out.
PeppyGODS won thougheverbeit
>>738495397Star Wars was far "deeper" than Star Fox though. Like, Star Fox wishes it had as well realized a set of characters as Han, Leia and Luke. It would be great if it had the mysticism of something like the force, Obi-wan and Yoda. It really don't though. It is even more stripped back than that. I'm not saying any of this is bad. I love that about 64. But I'm saying it's like trying to take, I don't know, Yoshi's Island and say "let's make a big grand story out of this." Can it work? Maybe? Should it be done? I'd say no. It's not a fit for what it is. Star Wars even in one movie showed so much more to wonder and speculate on and had multiple developed character arcs which is more than Star Fox did in 3 games.
>>738495354>and Assault had the best trajectory going forward for all aspects of a game.No it doesn't. If it did something would have happened by now.
>>738488154Why do you care so much? You play as a plane.
>>738495354I mean, a new adventure game is all but confirmed, what it looks like is another matter however. I just hope it leans more in a sci-fi direction rather than a fantasy one, like Aeromachina, in case it does better than the 64 remake and nintendo sees that as a sign of where to take the series next.
>>738496016Peppy looks like shit though
>>738495618wtf is this real?i've had my wii u since 2014 and haven't bothered even touching star fox zero because people were shitting all over it
>>738496114Yeah, I suppose so. But maybe that's a limitation of the medium, video games. Maybe they're trying to correct it now that they have the tech? Do SF64: Perfect Edition? Idk, I just thought the fat bastard energy coming off of Pigma was quite compelling, when he always felt like a cartoon baddie before. If they can manage to capture that level of visual poetry with the rest of the cast, I think it at least justifies itself as a remake.
>>738493684It's the exact same game they've already demade twice already in the last 15 years. The only point of this release is muh grafix. There's nothing to discuss other than how the characters look, and they look terrible.
>>738492390Yeah basically they just need longer legs. Slippy I can get should look all stumpy and peppy is pretty stocky, but fox/falco should look normal size instead of have midget legs. Not even speficially tall and lean, just normal. >>738493684It's just starfox 64. There is not much to say about it other than how it looks - the whole point of their doing this is for it to look better and they failed at their one job.That being said I'm not a furry at all and don't mind the idea behind what they were doing, but they don't have to look bad as an intentional choice. Like fox indeed has a big Shiba Inu looking neck. If it's supposed to be realistic they don't have that. Etc. falco's feathers bending like fingers I don't really mind because there was never a realistic way to show that, but it does look like he couldn't even hold a cup of water like that and birds being reptile-derived should have hands that look rather like their feet. Actually, clawed hands with feathers over the top could look cool and they didn't do it.
>>738496114Do you think Nintendo will ever get desperate enough to try a Metroid-Star Fox-F-Zero shared space opera universe?
Never...EVER let furries near a public IP
>I see, they're wanting to introduce Fox to a new generation and give him a more kid friendly design and attidue like in the movie>They use a different more realistic design that kids don't give a shit about>Ok so it's for the original fans then?>It's the 4th remake and boomers hate itGenuinely what audience is Nintendo trying to tap into with this
>>738495354>and Assault had the best trajectory going forwardNo, retard, it didn't. It was just EDF but worse. All they had to do was make more fucking plane games. Give it to the ace combat guys, who know what gamers actually want
>>738496719>Genuinely what audience is Nintendo trying to tap into with thisTendie diehard retards who will buy literally anything nintendo puts out, including a zero effort remake of an N64 game that costs nothing to make
>>738496114>"take, I don't know, Yoshi's Island and say "let's make a big grand story out of this"I'd buy it day 1 at full price>>73849671940 year old chud secondaries that are insecure about liking kiddy stuff and played 64 as kids back in the day once and never touched another star fox game since
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pq3q0OoeKAfirst guy who gets it
>>738496350I dunno anon the very first thing that lept out at me was "those Arwings look like complete dogshit" because, IDK, I'm not concerned with how fuckable the characters are. You act like your eyes are bleeding looking at them. Literally who gives a fuck unless your interest is in these models being used for porn? You gonna be looking at them, really? Does it fucking matter?
>>738497451He's saying they intentionally look ugly/jarring/grotesque, Nintendo fans are saying they look good/gritty/like the box art which are different points.
>>738495610They don't look like that, they are not creepy in any way. People point to this because they want to co-opt the general positive opinion on that work and they can talk about the OG starfox puppets(that the new designs also don't look like) but it's obviously not fucking close.
>>738497451This is the biggest cope I've seen about this holy shitPredators (Yautja) are ugly and look cool. Xenomorphs are ugly and look cool. Sangheli are ugly and look cool. The new and improved Star Fox crew is ugly and looks dumb. Simple as.
>>738498039He literally said they don't look cool, anon. Like exact words early in the video. He thinks they're straight up ugly fuckers, but that it's ballsy thing to do, and it's distinctive.I actually think they look cool though, myself.
>>738498131It's not distinctive in a good way. It just looks bad.
>>738488154>>738488639>>738489768i feel like they're trying to make them look like Star Wars characters
>>738498131It would be distinctive if Peppy had a diaper that he shat in every cutscene but that wouldn't make it a good idea. Distinctive bad is better than generic bad but it's never going to be better than distinctive good or even generic good.
>>738498238He also said that you're just as likely to react negatively to it as positively, you can't not have a strong reaction to it. Dude fucking nailed every point, frankly. Feels weird seeing someone encapsulate the entire argument so eloquently and to have some taste, rather than being a malding funko-pop collecting tendie avatar on YT.It's basically looking like Rango in Space at this point.
Why again?
>>738488154Actually, I really love those designs. They do remind me of those Jim Henson's Creature Shop characters from Dark Crystal and Ninja Turtles.On the other hand, I loathe everything about the RE2 remake.
>>738488154Falco's beak is made of clay. It physically distorts/warps when he talks. You can't unsee it once you notice.
>>738498636You people insult Jum Henson's work when you compare the two. This feels more like a relic of the crysis-era "shit man what if it was just high poly hyper-realistic" than an intentional, actually stylized creepy look.
>>738497984No, these new designs look nothing like the puppets and anyone saying that is full of it, but they absolutely do have the weird, disturbing look of 80s puppetry and prosthetics, dark crystal in particular.
>>738499587No they fucking don't. They have the look of a game that substitutes polygon count for style and it looks awful for it. You're trying to twist your brain into pretzels to make some kind of sense of it when you really should just recognize it as the shit that it is.Is it closer to the 80's puppetry shit that you're talking about than mario movie? Sure, but that's just because they're hyperdetailed at the cost of style, badly animated, and badly voiced. The word you're looking for is "shitty".
>>738488154what'd I miss? will they finally give us wilde mccloud or...?
>>738496702That's actually a furfag repellent. Furfags worship Mario movie Fox
>>738491925it looks like he's in pain just from living
>>738499787>No they fucking don'tStop pretending youve ever seen a movie that wasnt marvel, zoomer. I'm literally showing you and you still dont get it.
>>738500161The only dirty/repulsive characters are Star Wolf and Katt. Star Fox just looks weird.
>>738500161Yeah the design in OP looks nothing like your pic, dumbass. The raccoon from the marvel movies you mentioned ironically looks closer to your pic than Peppy in OP does, not that he even comes close either. But at least the marvel raccoon is meant to look kinda ugly and scruffy as a design. The new peppy is too clean, sterile, because nintendo didn't have the balls to design them the way you pretend they were designed. If you actually look at the OP pic and think "oh man that sure is JARRINGLY GROTESQUE" then you are fucking blind. The most jarring and grotesue thing is seeing that meth ruined Katt's life.
>>738500000Holy QUINTS
>>738500000Nintendo wishes it could be half as kino
>>738496472They'd also include Kirby and Pikmin
>>738488154You begged for Nintendo to put effort into graphics.You got what you deserved.Now put up or shut up forever.
>>738501478I never asked for that, the Nintendo bargain used to be low-spec games on low-spec hardware priced appropriately lower than the tech-race competitors with heavy stylization to make up for last-gen graphics/performance.I did not ask for last-gen graphics/performance but with current-gen pricing. Buy another Switch 2 to make up for my non-participation if it makes you feel better, I'm just here to laugh at idiots.
>>738500450>its 3d rendered and not a literal puppet so its nothing alike!How would you feel if you didnt have breakfast this morning?
>>738501431Fuck it, throw in the aliens from Earthbound/Mother while we're at it. Everyone is here!
>>738494351Can't wait to find out that there's only 10 minutes of actual cutscenes in the game and everyone is grossly exaggerating how many movies with ill in it.
>>738501706The filename for that pic that is supposedly like the new designs is "jarringly grotesque". Do you find Peppy in OP to be "jarringly grotesque?" That's not a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely curious.>breakfast questionI'd be pretty hungry. How would you feel if the designs actually looked like practical special effects and props, and not crysis-era philosophy regular 3D models? Would you feel like less of a bullshitter?
>>738495981Would you?
>>738501857Well, the prologue cutscene is already over 3 minutes. But if we take you not so literally to mean "a scant amount of cutscenes," that would be a pretty big fumble. They have a chance here to really elevate the baseline and do something really unique. If it was 2-3 hours of high quality cutscenes, that'd be pretty impressive.
>>738501886no
>>738488154Id suck his uncut coke can dick after a mission haha
>>738500115aren't we all
>>738502120There's probably going to be just one fucking cutscene at the start of the game and at the end and like 20 seconds interludes at the start of each level. Everyone's acting like its going to be some big huge cinematic experience with hour long cutscenes yet the game is only 50 bucks and comes out in 7 weeks and clearly doesnt have the budget for all of that. Star Fox fans are so delusion it's insane.
>they kept the "barrel roll"shouldn't they correct it to aileron roll already?
>>738502309I fucking doubt that highly man. There's probably at least going to be a cutscene between missions even if it's not as long as the intro one. This is the way of things now.
I wonder if they're gonna add different level transitions depending on the path you take shadow the hedgehog style
>>738488154>The new Star Fox designs are shitThey're the most repulsive designs ever. They're animated like garbage too.>They don't look like puppetsYeah tendies were coping hard with that nonsense. The only way they look like puppets is if the "puppets" are made from real animal Carcasses.that's what they look like dead lifeless animal Carcasses, flapping their mouths with no personality or expressions.
They need to be more fuckable. Mario Galaxy Fox was completely off when it comes to his character and personality, but his design was spot on. 10/10 would absolutely rail this closeted twink.
>>738502309I'm not a Star Fox fan. Why is it so unthinkable that Nintendo could have 2 hours of cutscenes in a game that looks like this? Are they uniquely incompetent? Others devs do it with less money.Okay, I'll bargain with you: 1 hour of cutscenes of the quality shown. Surely industry underdog and sickly orphan child Nintendo can manage 1 hour of cutscenes in a Star Fox game.Actually, how much did Assault have?
>>738502638>this is "no personality or expressions" according to anonAt a certain point it's derangement, isn't it?
>>738500450that's wrong. rocket and groot in those movies actually have proper animation and expressions.the shitch 2 starfox cast is animated like garbage and can't emote. They always have bizarre inappropriate expressions and lifeless eyes and the way their mouths flap looks really low quality.that's why people try to cope and say "they're like the puppets" not because they are. but because like puppets they have dead lifeless faces that can't lip sync or emote properly. rocket doesn't have those problems.>Does guardians of the galaxy have good art direction? no it doesn't have any. it just tries to look realistic.>Even if not done in the low quality way Nintendo chose would that work for explicitly cartoons universes like Starfox and MarioNo the game and story can't possibly work without cartoon characters. It's the core charm.
>>738502913wow he can look to his right with his rigid ass animal face. that is big news.Unreal engine truly is an animation marvel.
>>738495618It's probably just hate for the Wii U and Star Fox had the misfortune of having an entire Nintendo E3 to itself as the big hit system seller that will finally save the Wii U (lmao)
>>738502735sorry, we can't rig movie fox to work as an animated avatar with camera capture, prease understando
>>738503114Here's the timestamp from the Direct, look at the subtleties of the little micro-expression as it develops into a shit-eating grin https://youtu.be/ePZeyh5q9R8?t=259The expressions are fantastic and nuanced, because they're using face scanning tech. Are people like you autistic in the non-meme sense of the word? I don't see how you can look at Pigma and find his expressions robotic.
>>738497262But tendie diehard retards only buy Mario, Pokemon and Zelda and maaaaaybe Kirby if they're feeling spicyLoud and defensive as they are, they don't buy the games they defend
>>738502913
>>738503291Not that guy but it's a half-smirk at best and barely anything, then slippy immediately shows up on screen looking exactly the same throughout that bit of dialogue because animating that face in a way that feels human empathetically is probably a fucking nightmare. I feel for whoever did the rigging and facial animations for these characters because they got thrown a nightmare curveball.I won't say there's absolutely nothing, I won't go as far as the other dude, but it's clear that the way they did these faces made it a fucking chore to get anything in terms of varied expressions on the main cast, where it's even possible. The lighting and cinematography is doing a whole lot of heavy lifting here in this cutscene, a whole lot more than the face rigging.
>>738488154I haven't played Star Fox 64 since I was a little kid that could barely form a coherent thought. I'm just gonna replay it tomorrow and it'll be like the first time again AND I don't have to buy a remake. Cozy.
>>738502735>ugly command bell head>generic illumination expressions>10/10
>>738503958>a half-smirk at bestI mean, what is he supposed to do instead, a big faggy smug Dreamworks-Zootopia smile like >>738502735? I half feel that that is what people want. The hardest expressions to convey in art are the subtle ones. To somehow get an anthropomorphic fox to convey such a nuanced expression that looks believably human is pretty impressive to me - at the very least I wouldn't call it shit and bad.I don't know how the other animal species will fair, Slippy might be one of the more challenging cases because he doesn't have eyebrows. Pigma looked great though.
>>738504308the only thing we'll get out of this is people will rip the fox avatar to use as a vtuber avatarI hope you're happy
>>738503291>The expressions are fantastic and nuanced, because they're using face scanning tech. Are people like you autistic in the non-meme sense of the word? I don't see how you can look at Pigma and find his expressions robotic.I think it's pretty funny how this art direction was supposed to drive furfags away from Starfox and here I have some fucking random gawking to me about it like fucking fursuit technology. Wow I can be be the foxxo now! UWU WOTS DIS? Get real.
>>738504308>I mean, what is he supposed to do insteadAnon you said it was a shit-eating grin. You accuse other people of being autistic but were you unaware that you typically need to show teeth to make a grin? Joking aside I legitimately believe that the characters are rigged such that overt displays of emotion like that are impossible. The best we'll get are raised eyebrows and open mouths.>what do you want?Well-rigged characters where something with a snout smiling in side profile wouldn't have trouble showing teeth. There's a middle ground between zootopia and stiff-as-a-board to the point that even the people who like the designs are comparing them to literal puppets that cannot emote. I believe that the animators did their very best but they got some real dogshit to work with and as such it's going to be the lighting and camera to carry any cutscenes and convey emotion because the faces are near-incapable.Pigma does look good 100%, I'm not above giving credit where it's due. But the main cast is hit the worst and we'll be seeing them the most no doubt.
>>738488154AI > Nintendo
>>738503291that looks clunky and uncanny. You have bottom of the barrels standards.It's so fucking lifeless and stiff. His face barely even moves and that's the most expressive animation you can find? while ignoring how static everything is?This shit does not look good. You have clearly never seen hand made animation before. I've seen anamatronics look more natural and expressive.
whos this cutie on the right? is she coming back?
>>738504574People here can't understand basic arguments, it's crazy, the level of literacy. I'm not talking about the webcam avatar larp shit, I'm saying the devs used the same tech to record the character's facial expressions, this is just blatantly obvious.>>738504621You're being very dramatic.
>>738504726It's an uptight bird-man talking during a mission briefing, you histrionic moron. He doesn't need to soi out and gesticulate like a mental case at the utterance of every half-syllable. Goddamn, you people are annoying in how you look to be angry about stupid shit. The Mario movie is right there if you want easy to read expressions aimed at children.
>>738504794>see arguments about nuance and the things that are likeable about the models and animations>actually try to discuss my take on those things via my issues with the facial expressions, my expectations for how such characters could emote without it being too much, why it could still be decent in the end if the other visual aspects play well, cede where the art style does work on a character>what will this person who wants to actually discuss the game say in return, I wonder?>"ummmmmm dramatic much??????"Eat shit retard, you are incapable of having an actual discussion. Don't know why I thought you could handle a back and forth where people actually challenge each others points, you're as dumb as most of this board.
>>738504794Damn that's crazy, where did they get the animals to record those facial expressions?
Is it just me or has the "it's good, shut up chud" mentality that was rampant in the Pokemon community the past decade now spread to every Nintendo franchise? I see everyone on social media defending every garbage design choice Nintendo has made lately. I know the niche fanbases for these games would have given a lot more hell years ago
>>738505067Calling the facial animations in this "stiff-as-board" is overly dramatic, yes. You are hyperbolic, dramatically prone in your descriptive capabilities, and annoying.
>>738504683They're so close to greatness, yet so far. Sad!
>>738505123It's a good-looking game. This cuts both ways. Why can't you accept that some people legitimately like the aesthetic? I've seen an unreal amount of "you're just coping", even though proponents have continuously compared it to Rango, Dark Crystal, Jim Henson, etc., which are popular and beloved works of art.
>>738504984if the the designs are this horrifically ugly and 'mario if he real' then the lipsync and facial expressions need to be a whole lot better than static face and low quality lipflaps here.
>>738505195You called people autistic for disliking characters that self-admitted fans are comparing to puppets and pretended a tiny half-smirk was a full-on grin to serve your argument so maybe you should look to your own posts before calling out others. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you with anything but kid gloves on then this is not your sort of website.Your posts only shine a brighter spotlight on the glaring issues with the game while making you look disingenuous.
>>738494705Worked for Pokémon, Kirby, Yoshi,etc
>>738505427So it's a smirk. I couldn't think of a better term at the time, but yes, smirk is a better description. It's a good-looking smirk, though. What's the problem? I feel like I can trust that smirk.
>>738505123Depends on the fanbase, people were willing to call out the good and bad with the latest 2D metroid and I didn't see many defending Prime 4 when it launched. This is my bias as a metroid fan talking but Starfox fans have it so much better, I'd flay a dozen people alive to have Nintendo's direction for the metroid series be "try to remake or rehash Super Metroid as many times as possible" for most of its games.
>>738505342I like how these things look, and I think nu-fox is a pale imitation of the real thing. Maybe you just have bad taste, and the game really does look bad.
>>738505525It's just funny that you called people autistic for their criticism of the lack of emotiveness of the facial expressions(on characters even fans of the designs are comparing to actual puppets that factually cannot emote) when you can't even correctly interpret the one that you specifically sought out to prove your point.Again maybe look to your own posts first because you seem to be the one who is autistic and dramatically exaggerating, guilty of the things you accuse others of.
>>738505737If this is how you handle dissenting opinion, then yeah, you get what you deserve, retard. Suck it up and stop complaining. You're just a salty furfag.
>>738505816I actually think you're autistic for a different reason now, namely that you're fixated on a minor detail of language even after I ceded the point and you keep posting anime girl pics at me.
>>738505921I'm just needling you about criticisms of others you made earlier that are clearly more true of yourself than the ones you levied them at. I can see how having that pointed out would annoy you, autismo. Hope you feel better about it soon.
>>738488480People wanting to fuck Krystal is the reason the franchise is still remembered today
>>738505853No, anon, disliking nu-fox doesn't make you a furfag. And it's a great time to be a hater, many things suck and many people are stupid, I'm not gonna stop lol.
>>738506505Then stop wringing your hands about your designated enemies not being kind and considerate enough of your opinions. Except the Indian shitting-street you have spiritually consigned yourself to.
>>738505548>Starfox fans have it so much betterNo they don't, Metroid has multiple good games, Star Fox has 64 and Nintendo is too scared to do something new with it despite Metroid struggling before as well
>>738500000Rango is realistic leaning, but still stylized when it wants to be, and the characters are still expressive.
>>738506505It's easier for retards like this guy >>738505853to write people off as "group to hate" instead of addressing their criticisms because they are not good at arguing. Easy scapegoat. Like how disliking that AI is used to help corporations build surveillance profiles on people without their consent makes you a heckin patreon furry artist who got rekt by gen AI. You like [thing], every bit of it, or you're a member of "group to hate", in this case furfags. Because that's the only reason someone could dislike these designs apparently.
>>738506861No one is going to be nice to you if you're not nice to them in return. Children are taught this. Mentally, you're no better than a child.
meh, the only one I think is objectively terrible is slippy. unfortunate but the rest are okay.
>>738506758The GOAT
>>738506970Slippy looks like he was raped and has to live with it for the rest of his life.
>>738506958Who gives a shit if people are nice, retard? You look like an idiot blatantly writing off criticisms to a scapegoat so I'll call you an idiot. Should I be nicer? I could be as nice as possible and people like you would still write off the criticisms, dishonesty is far worse than pretending to be nice.
>>738497451This is exactly the dunning-kruger reddit faggot I imagine saying ugly star fox characters standout to get attention. (Ugly attention does not mean good attention if we look at the history of wokeshit games)Ugly only works when characters are badass and menacing. Take Doomguy, for example.That said, I like how the game itself looks - the lighting, worlds, combat, explosions. I won't be looking at the characters much anyway since I'll be in multiplayer sweating my ass off.
>>738506970See >>738504683I think it's fair to call something objectively terrible when AI can do better with this little effort..
>>738492774The author did everything he wanted with the engine, what else do you want?
>>738502913what emotion does this expression convey? disgust? contempt? concern? mild amusement? the answer is "idk lol" because these models are fucking terrible and show no actual emotion
>>738507061I can hear the tears as you wrote this
>>738507280So are you not aware that expressions can convey numerous meanings, often contradictory meanings, and context is important for understanding? Tears of joy versus tears of sorrow, and all that?
>>738507280I mean, his mouth is slightly curved up.
>>738507285From the guy crying about "y-you better be nice buddy, or I'll call you a furry"Right.Yeah cry more retard, if you want people to be nice find another website.
>>738507378its a fucking cartoon fox you pseud nigger, the design should be expressive enough to tell at a glance especially since that was the point being fucking argued
>>738507454do you know what a grimace is or is your only frame of reference the fat purple fast food mascot
We have an adventures/assault furry one step away from becoming a full-blown schizo and you people are mocking him!
>>738507464To be fair, the context of fox and falco's relationship and falco challengingly asking if he's up for a dangerous mission is enough to parse out what that smirk means at a glance. But that level of setup wouldn't be necessary if the faces were rigged and modeled better.
>>738507464Watch the video, you concern-trolling pinhead. Unless you have some kind of neurological processing issue, it's blatantly clear he is smirking - this is the term we decided on, it's a smirk. What does a smirk mean? It could be an act of derision or confidence or maybe something else, but in context, it's a confident smirk - "we got this bro."Now please take your meds, you're like a rabid dog.
>>738501886Not that anon but if the lights were turned off I could totally pump a few loads into that fat Krystal.
>>738507378Prosopagnosiafag detected. Different emotions DO provoke distinct facial expressions and it's normal to be able to tell them apart easily. Yes, you can tell tears of joy apart from tears of sorrow. No, single expressions do not convey multiple meanings.
>>738507739>we decided on>wewtf are you talking about
>>738507280fox looks exhausted to me in every screenshot I see.
only 2 million views? not sure if public interest is great enough to be the best selling game in the series like nintendo is aiming. those designs are ugly and off-putting.
>>738507985It's tough to stay awake when you've got Krystal draining your balls after every mission.
>>738504003/thread
>>738508030where have they said it's supposed to be the best selling Star Fox
>>738507908Man you are so full of it. There was that Democrat politician recently eating some North African slop at an ethnic restaurant, and people ferociously debated what his reactions meant and if he was enjoying it or not. People accused Elizabeth Smart's uncle of murdering her partly based on his bizarre mannerisms in an interview, turns out he was totally innocent. Even just playing music has been shown to alter how we interpret expressions, because it changes context. And how about this meme? Human facial expressions are by no means clear-cut and you've bought into some kind of FBI criminal profiler snake oil.
>>738488154Yiff in hell
>>738508194NTA but you type so much to say so little. It dilutes your point and makes it weaker.No, you didn't need more than 1 example. If 1 wouldn't do it then 4 wouldn't.
>>738508361You're a faggot lol. How bout that?I give multiple examples because, let's be real, even the 4 provided were not good enough for you, though they are obviously true. You're a stupid person just looking to argue about absolutely nothing.
>>738504683
>>738508441I don't even disagree with your main point. You just present it so badly it's laughable.You seem like a frequent user of food analogies.
>>738508512You were taught to use one and only one example to demonstrate your arguments. Really? What school taught you that?
>>738508627I understand brevity. The same point in half the words carries twice the impact. Do you need a schoolmaster to tell you that?
>>738508828Maybe you're just not that smart? It's a few sentences.
>>738508502
>>738508920You're now copying my style of posting so it's clear who has had the greater impact.Want to post 12 examples of people who just aren't that smart? I'm sure that will help.
>>738509117I genuinely think you're dumb, not kidding. I'm replying in brief because there's nothing to say to you. Why are you even bothering me about this right now if you agree with me?
>>738509178Because your horrid argumentation does a disservice to our shared opinion.But you seem to be learning so I'm happy I taught you. Do better in the future and have a nice day, genuinely.
>>738488154When we get desperate, dust on my Switch,Many games from now,Will you still be selling me the Lylat Wars?Same old Arwing, the same high scores.If we port out to Switch number three,Will you flock to the store?Will you still play it, if we remake it,Star Fox 64?Fox is older too.And if you tap L twiceWe'll barrel roll for you!We could be handy, adding a screen,When the joy has gone.You can fight Star Wolf by the cameraside,Motion Controls ruin the ride!Shooting at Andross, dodging the rocks,who could ask for more?Will you still play it, if we remake it,Star Fox 64!Every console we can launch a remake with a shiny coat,if it's not too dear.We'll save on design!Nostalgia's all you see,We-will-rob-you-blind.Send us a comment, drop us a line,Beg us for F-Zero.Indicate precisely that you'll want to payYours sincerely, lazy today.Give us your money, enter your code,Milked forevermore!As long as you pay it, we will remake it,Star Fox 64!
>>738509339I don't think a single intelligent person has ever found a 100-odd word paragraph to be too taxing. I know I've never been bothered about paragraphs of similar length here or anywhere else until just this moment. You're unique, congrats.
>>738507280That's a wry grin you autistic moron, it conveys the idea that Fox knows they're in the shit and he finds amusement in Falco's attempt to make light of the situation. I didn't even have to rewatch the video to know that because the expression was distinct enough that I remember exactly when it happened. Your lack of vocabulary and experience to identify emotive expressions is your own failing, not Nintendos.
>>738500000You do not deserve it
Anything digit below a 7 and I buy a switch 2 for this
>>738493130Go be a miserable faggot somewhere else. I'm going to buy multiple copies of this game to piss you snoys off
>>738509445Song name? I feel like I've heard this before but can't remember.
Besides the bad timing of following up design-accurate representation in a film where Fox was the best part about it, honestly it's just super jarring comparing new, realistic designs that are rigged to match human face expressions, to old and flagrantly cartoony designs that didn't have to worry about that sorta thing even at their worst. But I could probably live with most of that if it wasn't for those goddamn stubby digitigrade legs, I don't get why that's the one thing they had to fuck with at its most. You trim that off from the renders, they mostly look FINE besides Falco's realistic feather fingers just being uncanny and Slippy's nightmare human-ish eyes.
>>738494821That's exactly what furniggers want, a furnigger game, heavy on story akin to mass effect or a gacha, something where the characters can romance anyone. These people don't like railshooter gameplay as you see them complain about it from time to time.
>>738509858https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTunqv1Xt4
>>738509928Not a furnigger but the truth is that rail shooters kind of suck. Games like Wing Commander, Freespace, and Ace Combat do a way better job at being fighter pilot games. The only reason to really do a rail shooter is either to appeal to a more casual audience via simplicity, or because of hardware limitations. Star Fox should've hard-focused on free-flight gameplay for every game after 64.
>>738510350Star Fox can be a rail shooter, if I want Ace Combat that's getting new games still. Would I play a mod or a free/indie game that merges the ideas together? Sure. But it's like pestering Mega Man fans about how their series refuses to evolve from 2D platforming, sometimes you don't fuck with what works. Nintendo has found that out repeatedly.
>>738510482I'm not paying $60 for a railshooter with paid online
>>738510531No one's asking you to, then.
>>738510350>I don't like them so they suck, change the core gameplay that fans really like to meet MY expectationsNice subjective post, retard. You have the outlook of a teenager. I'll now go enjoy SF64 again to spite you.
>>738510350>every game after 64Yeah, like Star Fox 64, Star Fox 64, and now Star Fox 64
>>738510548Then better be happy this is the only Star Fox game you're getting for a decade.
>>738510898I never expected a new one to begin with and have never legally paid for my roms of any game in the series besides a family SNES Classic, so hey, it's a pleasant surprise.
>>738498328They for sure did, even the music at the start of their trailer was basically fucking ripped from the jingles that come after the star wars opening text crawls lmao
>>738510350its not for you, man
>ITT: furfags seething because new redesigns don't appeal to their fetishes Based Tendo cockblocking furries.
>>738511015They're just being faithful.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z99Xi4ES2YWhile SNES already had hints here and there, 64's more military-orchestra style soundtrack was basically a big ol' Japanese homage to stuff like the Star Wars soundtracks honestly.
>>738511057Imagine bootlicking so hard you're actively inventing bogeymen in your head.
>>738491925chicken legs
>>738511119Yeah, yeah, we both know you are seething because they don't look like zootopia antros.Yiff in hell .
>>738511000Then shut the fuck up
I'll take this Fox design over everything we've gotten since Assault desu
>>738510578Not subjective. It's not the norm but rail shooters are a rare case where one genre just gets outright surpassed by others on a technical level. Shmups and flight sims both have tighter gameplay and flight sims are more more immersive with greater depth as well. Rail shooters were always a compromise between "we want flashy 3D graphics" and "we need the game to actually work on our hardware" OR "we want to target a more casual audience than a flight sim". There's a reason nobody really makes these anymore besides Nintendo while flight sims are kind of booming both in-atmosphere and in space, and have enjoyed fairly steady popularity overall.>>738511036No, it actually is for me. I liked Star Fox SNES and 64, they're not bad, just obsolete.
>>738488335Because it was never actually about any sort of integrity, it was always about feeling superior.
>>738511189>GGLLLRRKKHHH GGGHHHRRGHH D-DEEPER DADDY 'TENDO I WOULD NEVER THINK TO GO AGAINST YOU HHOOORRGHHHHH-
>>738511449Sorry, no more fapping at a children cartoon for you. Yiff in hell
>>738489673NONBIOLOGICAL THINGS CAN AGE YOU FUCKING RETARDED FAGGOTWINE AGESITS NOT BIOLOGICAL
>>738511381It is very much subjective if people like it and want more of it. I don't care if it's outdated or surpassed by others by your opinion because my dopamine receptors go off when playing it. You do realize there's outdated games that copy the ps1 atmosphere silent hill visuals correct or just the fact that an outdated turn-based game based on Earthbound like undertale broke bank? You're literally saying a game shouldn't be made because it's not meeting your arbitrary "le modern" standards of what makes a game good.
>>738511685The examples you gave aren't obsolete. "PS1 atmosphere silent hill visuals" is an art style, not a genre. Turn-based RPGs also aren't obsolete. In fact off the top of my head I can't think of a single other genre that this happened to besides rail shooters. The gameplay concepts and elements that rail shooters present are ALL executed better by at least one other genre. The overall gameplay experience is not genuinely unique, just a lesser version of what you can get from a shmup or a flight sim.You're allowed to like Star Fox. It's a good game. But me saying its genre is obsolete isn't arbitrary, and has nothing to do with le modern (Wing Commander predates Star Fox).
I don't even mind the designs, but the flat sounding dialogue bums me out. Barely personality.
>>738511546Wine literally is juice from a fruit which is biological. That's like saying blood isn't biological
>>738512042>Turn-based RPGs also aren't obsoleteI know, you can't seem to grasp that have of that is my point and that most of this is subjective arguing. If you go on rpgcodex you'll have "warpig" fans saying exactly that; turn based is outdated mechanics. But sure, if I wanted a shmup I'll play Ikaruga >simI'd rather pull my eyes out before touching DCS.
>>738488154If they looked cartoony, nobody would give two flying fucks about another remake of Star Fox 64. The art style is the thing that's advertising the game for them and it's a pretty smart thing to do.
>>738512289The art style isn't advertising shit. It's causing discourse but that should never be confused for interest. Children aren't going to want the creepy animal game
>>738512221by god... Nintendo don't hire this man
>>738509062so much better.just gotta fix the legs a bit and slippies double nose and other incorrect facial proportions.
To anyone saying rail-shooters aren't obselete in this day and age, a challenge:Name me 3 rail-shooter games that came out over the last 10 to 20 years that...>Has no genre shifting gameplay segments>AAA>60+ dollars>and sold over a million copiesGo!>>738511057>implying anyone besides furries give a shit about starfoxI also love to make believe.
>>738512357I don't think Nintendo cares. They got people talking about the game who wouldn't be otherwise.
>>738488154>>738488335Cope, they are good.
>>738488154Don't bother, OP. Any discussion of these designs and the game is forever going to drowned out by "owning the furfags", "muh puppets" and "technically this and that aren't remakes".Fuck's sake. This is unbearable. The reveal threads were fun, but now it's just depressing. I don't give a fuck about shills or boogeymen, I just want to talk about a video game, but that's too much to ask for.I'll just say this game looks like ass and the best case scenario for it is "Star Fox 64 except ugly as sin". There's no scenario where this is worth anyone's time and neither are these threads.
>>738512746Talking about doesn't equal buying it.
>>738512221See, I don't mind this. It's not the fact that the remake's models have realistic elements, it's more that it's still basically a cartoony art style with the realistic aspects half-assedly brushed on top, and it just dives right into the uncanny valley. Funnily enough they remind me of the old crop of models from the Event Horizon fangame, except said gamea.) has the excuse of being made singlehandedly by one guy as a hobby project.b.) actually got much better-looking models within the past couple years.
>>738512223>DCSAgreed, not my kind of game either. But Ace Combat for example is technically classified as a flight sim, which is the definition I'm working with. Wing Commander and Freespace are space flight sims.They're "sims" but not necessarily HARDCORE sims like DCS. It's an overly broad genre but to define it more granularity would require a LOT of subgenres, it'd be like metal subgenres but for vidya.
The robot legs theory was always stupid, and the people still clinging to it after all these years are retarded
>>738513576>a cartoony art style with the realistic aspects half-assedly brushed on topYeah, the two elements end up working against each other and nothing looks right. They either needed to go with the usual cartoon style of previous games or be brave enough to commit to some fairly major redesign work to make them a better fit for a more realistic style; trying to cludge the two approaches together just left them with the worst of both worlds.Fox in particular looks horrendous, his bell head with a wide mouth and stubby muzzle makes him look like a retarded dog when rendered "realistically" and I have no idea how anyone at the studio ever looked it and thought 'yes this is good, ship it'.
>>738498482Kyle Bosman is a fucking legend from pre-gamergate internet
Ah, it appears there was an error in communication, NintendoWe said we want MORE of what StarFox 64 DID. As in new levels with the same kind of gameplay.Not just StarFox 64 againtoo late to clarify now oops
>>738489845Assault had the best voice acting by far and they should have kept those VA's
>>738514739Ehhhh I dunno about that.
>>73848848099% of people complaining aren't doing so because they think they're ordinary designs that don't titillate their sexual proclivitiesThey are complaining my negrosome because the characters look like they're going to take my skin and make it into a bongo drumThat you'd accuse other people's judgement of taste constituting a spectrum between sexy and bad is strongly indicative of poor theory of mind, which is in turn suggestive of autism and in all likelihood weeb-brain.
>>738514739>>738514763Falco, Slippy, and Peppy all sounded the best they ever have, same for Wolf. I could take or leave Fox, he's always the most boring. Andrew, Pigma, and Leon sounded like shit compared to 64, as did General Pepper.
>>738515005I do not agree at all.
>there was more attention paid to Pigma than Wolf in the trailerWhat am I supposed to derive from this?
>>738488335>fans suddenly come up with random reasons to defend that while completely forgetting the first partI just normally hate Nintendo bullshit and these designs actually look nice to me for once.
>>738513576>Event Horizon fangameThe creator of the fangame had a total mental breakdown over the new game.Kind of funny, but mostly just sad.
>>738488154They look amazing, though.>>738488335The new Star Fox game has a fucking strong and cohesive art direction. You don't know what the word means.
>>7385080302.6m in like two days and has already surpassed both Kirby Air Riders Directs, the latest two Galaxy movie Directs, and the Tomodachi Life Direct.The Star Fox Direct is pulling great numbers. More and more people are coming around to the new designs. Just a knee-jerk reaction coming off the movie.Plus they have more to share about the game as well. They are really pushing for this to be Star Fox's big comeback.I hope you come around as well.
I dont get this at all. They obviously look like fucking shit but why is there so much defending these atrocious fucking models. They look absolutely fucking horrible and have 0 soul
>>738515860Are you a marketer?
>>738514056Anon, I...
>>738515523Did you not play the original
>>738488154They look like the semi-realistic models from the original game, I think it's cool.
>>738515523Pigma balls.
>>738515523The Pigma Male concerns himself not who pays his checks.
>>738516173They look like a way shittier version of the gormless puppets from the SNES promo art.They do not look the same.
>>738516009because if we finally get the Star Fox game us real fucking fans have wanted for 30 years just because you retarded furries don't find the character models fuckable and turn it into a tortanic style campaign to tank the game and it sells like shit and nintendo says "Oh I guess people don't like starfox afterall" I'm gonna rip my own dick off
>>738516491Why can't they just make a new game without any bullshit attachedThey always fuck up Star Fox in ways they never fuck up their other games
>>738515523Pigma is the bigger antagonist to Fox, he killed his dad dude
>>738516520Because they view it as a testbed for new console gimmickswith SNES it was the polygon rendering or whatever64 had the rumble packthen it had to become a 3D adventure game because they could finally do proper camera controls and shit then it had to use touch screensthen it had to use 3dthen it had to use the wii-u controller gyronow I guess it has to use ugly cutscenes and a face camera so you can be a fox v-tuber or something
>>738515523Wolf is just an asshole. Hes a rival with no real beef to fox and we see it in Assault where he's even giving him advice on how to handle things like a man. Pigma by proxy killed James. Pigma was considered a good friend of James too. With how we see Wolf in Assault he does come off as scum and wouldn't probably betray James if they were friends.
>>738516657Doesn't**** not ""does"" fuck you auto correct kill yourself you stupid nigger
>>738516525>>738516657Pigma is a true merc. It's James' fault for not paying enough.
>>738516604Its deffo to test the v-tuber shit and also see if online play sticks too. They want something besides splatoon to be their online shooter or to see if theres an audience still
>>738488154Peppy is now the better looking one
>>738515659Not seeing anything of the sort on his xitter, just two or three posts saying that the new designs look ugly and that he feels demoralized seeing the rest of the community pulling the KANTOOOOOO bullshit for this remake after complaining about Zero and 643D for a decade. A justified attitude desu.
>>738516817Nintendo is more than ever open to multiplayer after seeing Fortnite and Roblox rake in billions.
>>738516874His reaction to seeing the new Katt design is likely what he was referring to
>>738494703The same even uglier than this artstyle
>>738516107No, just a guy trying to be optimistic about the game.I really want it to sell well because I want Star Fox to succeed.
>>738516930One post? That doesn't constitute a "total mental breakdown."
>>738516874Discord.
>>738517054It's a video
>>738517053I hope it sells well and the other part of the leak mentioning a brand new Star Fox game is true. I also wish the art style wasn’t shit.
Anyone changing the portions back to originals are just asking for DLSS5 yassified models. They're intentionally changed to not be that.
Would you ever want Infantry Combat to return to Star Fox? Fox with his blaster and a quarterstaff?
>>738517583NoFox is a fucking pilot
>>738517606He's a merc.They end up wearing a lot of hats.
>>738517249>DLSS5What's that?
>>738517583YES, although it is kind of hard to imagine the crew running around with blasters in their new designs. They are all still armed though.
>>738517685I'd imagine he would have an all-fours sprint animation.Or at least Wolf would.
>>738517653the Star Fox team are explicitly a gang of mercenary starfighters, they are all pilots. Their base is a ship. They fly. Sometimes they use other specialty vehiclesThat's all it ever needed to be, that's all it ever should be
>>738517583No, but I wouldn't be completely against it either as long as it stays arcade scoring
>>738517583>cripple enemy ship>board enemy ship>MGS_Tanker_Incident.mp4
I can't wait for the scene where Fox gets his legs blown off and has to get prosthetic ones.
>>738517173I like the art style, but I can see some slight revisions happening based on fan feedback depending on the studio.If this is made by Nintendo internal only, probably not. If this is made by a Western studio, like Next Level Games, then there is a good chance.I just hope the studio making this game is also making the sequel. Star Fox needs consistency, and that means a dedicated studio with a vision behind the new games.Something like Nintendo internally, then using other studios like NLG or Monolith Soft for help would be great.
>>738517895it's coming out in a month and a half dude
>>738517702>all-fours sprint animationBut how he gonna shoot?>Or at least Wolf would.Okay Wolf going feral and dashing on all fours could be pretty cool.
>>738517583I wouldn't mind it, though frankly Starlink has shown you could effectively get the same sort of gameplay by just giving the ship itself multiple weapons systems to cycle through. People would probably bitch at least a little less if the running and jumping was done via transforming into a walker or else turning into a hovercraft, again like in Starlink.
>>738517836Where did this dumb rumor even originate
>>738517967For the sequel, not the game this June. I should have clarified.Like they can take the feedback on the designs for this game and make some edits for the sequel.Pic rel keeps the artistic integrity while improving on the design. Something like this. Simple and effective.
I want to rip off Falco's beak and shank him to death with it
>>738517980Anon I JUST made that up.Am I not the first to do so?
>>738504281Movie Fox took everything I don't like from Fox's designs and made it even more annoying to look at.
>>738518028No. People have been saying Star Fox pilots cut off their legs for decades
>>738518165Oh yeah no shit but I just made up that that this is some kind of explanation for it.
>>738517685If the rumors of the adventure-like star fox game are true, their movements are gonna be very awkward.
>>738518272>just do a remake of 64 instead of a proper sequel with 64s gameplay like people actually wanted>it sells well enough to justify a sequel>the sequel is a 3D on-ground action game like Adventuresliterally the WORST way this could play out
>>738518272>>738518417Being an adventure game does not necessarily mean it will be like Adventures itself.You can make a Star Fox adventure without even getting out of the cockpit.
Ultimately all a Star Fox Adventures game has to be is for Fox to find a cute blue Fox girl he can indoctrinate.
>>738518740it should only ever be a rail-shooter with the occasional all-range mode segments I swear Star Fox is the only series that gets this treatment where people constantly want to turn it into some other genre or fuck with perfection nobody's saying Metroid should become a turn-based RPG and insist it's still fine just because it has Samus in it
>>738511130Yes, he is a bird.
>>738518948I wonder if people’s reactions to their legs is caused by them only knowing Fox and Falco from Smash, who both have movesets highly based on powerful kicks and quick movement.
>>738518874What about Star Fox 2?
>>738518874Because Metroid's genre is good, while Star Fox's is not
>>738519295A bad idea
>>738519349then go play metroidstop trying to turn star fox into something it isn'twhy don't we make Animal Crossing into a Soulslike next? Because I think dark souls is good and animal crossing isn't, so let's change it. It'll still have the same characters so you should still like it.
>>738515659meanwhile the AFIS dude seems to like itto be fair the fanbase has been starving for a while
>>738519295They should try to remake it. Also, am I not against the Walker since it basically let you have both Arwing and Landmasters gameplay.
>>738502209He's borderline feral, he probably has a tapering penis
>>738502913My cat shows more actual emotion
>>738504003Be sure to play the PC port
>>738506970Just noticed they gave him a blue hat, were they scared of the implications of giving him a red one?
>>738517685Fox knot>>738518007Bird long dick
>>738516173Falcon have parrot face, not the same
>PuppetsI dont understand that argument, we literally saw star fox puppets back in that one old E3, and it doesn't look like those.
>>738488154There, there...
>>738509062>>738512221>>738516128Look shit
>>738520710No one asked you fags
>>738521125Those are both men, aren't they...
>>738488154The watch remake is better.>>738521174The amount of actual female fursuiters in existence is less than 1%.
>>738510898Nah, the adventures game is all but confirmed
>>738511189Except old star fox designs didn't look like zootopia anthros, they were more humanoid, different proportions too
>>738521262no its not
>>738512042>"I can't think of a single other genre that this happened to besides rail shooters"Point and click games, they were the movie games of their time, and were replaced by the movie games of today, which ironically enough have more actual gameplay.
>>738488154>they look like animals instead of puppets so im going to cry about itThey only used to look like puppets because they were incapable of making them look sort of real
>>738521125Both of those costumes have men inside them
>>738488154I like it a lot. They are actually showing creativity and doing something unexpected. Any other company would have made Slippy a sassy black woman and called it a day.
>>738508502Slippy looks much better.
>>738488821cope furfaggot
Furries in shambles.AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>>738521662>They are actually showing creativityIt is literally the "this will be nintendo games in 2013" meme
>>738521818Glad we’re catching up to 2013 finally.
>>738514550Ranguage barrier, prease understando
>>738521174>>738521229Traps and e-boy
>>738517980Game theory
You guys do realize that this is a reboot with the intention of making new games in this established continuity, right?The game it putting a lot of work into world-building, characters, story, etc. Its like Mass Effect 1 to serve as an introduction to the universe.This is intended to be a new beginning for Star Fox. And yeah, that means starting the story from the beginning. Stick around for the next game.
>>738522489>You guys do realize that this is a reboot with the intention of making new games in this established continuity, right?They could have just made a new game, don't give me that "it needs to establish itself" crap.
>>738522619Except that it does. Star Fox hasn't seen a fresh entry since Zero in 2016.The purpose of this game is to serve as the new introduction to Star Fox and the definitive start of the series.
>>738522690They could have introduced Star Fox with a brand new all original game.
>>738488335>>fans suddenly come up with random reasons to defend thatBut Starfox Zero looks way the fuck better than this remake though.
>>738488154I like them
>>738523467this literally a furry artisti thought the new designs were supposed to stop this
>>738523589That was only spouted by normalfags who don't really get the furry community. These guys could've been the ugliest pieces of shit this side of Furafinity and they would've been drawn with their backs being blown out, their designs still being appealing in some fashion just means it's happening sooner.
>>738522753Sure, but this is saferIt needs to sell well
>>738523962I really don't think it will. Do children want the ugly animal game? Do adults want to pay for a game they can already play for free right now?
>>738524040We'll find out
>>738522489They already did that with Zero, it was literally a retelling of 64 with some shit slightly rearranged. People don't need a fucking refresher course every 5 years, normalfags already know who Fox and co. are and what they do through cultural osmosis, even children. Same deal with Pikmin 4. These constant reboots just because they don't feel like trying or they want to keep their franchises "evergreen" or whatever are fucking intolerable, and modern mainstream entertainment is so bankrupt everybody eats it up anyways, just like the constant rehashes and remakes of the film industry.
>>738523467yo, this is sick! unfortunately, saucenao is failing me...
>>738522489Is there a word for media illiterate, but like for franchises themselves and the creative motivations behind them? People here so fucking dense, dooming about these being the designs from hereon. This isn't going to be a new continuity in all likelihood. Maybe if it has insane breakout sales they would think to continue it, but the more likely explanation is that it's yet another one-off, because that's what Star Fox has ALWAYS been. They reboot it every 8-10 years and do it different every time. They'll do a different take on the source material AGAIN in another decade.
>>738488154FOCUS M
>>738508502those can't be used in the game. looks aren't the only considerations in games>>738506642I don't remember fox having digitigrade legs
>>738524089>They already did that with ZeroThe difference is intention.Zero was designed to be a tech showcase for the Wii U GamePad. I do not believe it was made with being a reboot in mind.But this game IS. You can tell by the difference in production value and the areas of the game they are putting the most focus on.>>738524261>it's yet another one-offMaybe if the game flops, which I do not think it will. You can clown on me, but I have faith that this is a true fresh start.
>>738505195animals can snarl, furrow their brows, glare, snarl, wrinkle their noses, narrow their eyelids, etc.falco looks stiff as fuck in that gif>>738505073they just mapped it to a facescan of a person and then articulated and rigged the parts they modeled, you moron
>>738524126Sorry for the late reply, stepped out to get a bite to eathttps://x.com/rokuroku72/status/2053035943733682393
>>738525107ayy, thanks for the source
>>738488154Why do Nintendo fans need everything sanded down, gelded, and safe? I love the uncanny look. It’s one of the few interesting things this company has done in years. Koizumi got weird and I’m all for it. /v/ is wrong every time they bitch about an art style. Everything would look like the Hoyoverse if you fags had it your way.
>>738510898>for a decademore like a century, so better learn to savor those scraps lmao
>>738510898If that leak about their being a "Classic" one releasng this Summer and an "Adventure" one releasing in 2027 is true, they're likely using this as a means to get eyes on Star Fox's games again after the movies
>>738525396most classic fans don't even like the adventure style
>>738525396they could have gotten my attention if they hadn't butchered fox and company's looksI can only hope they haven't fucked up the gameplay, voice acing, or the cast interactionsonly remaining question is will they keep james dead or will fox go scouting on venom
The cast looks really good.
>>738525396>Zelda is open world now>Star Fox becomes nu classic ZeldaUnironically has more legs than remaking the SNES game every few games. The fact that the only non-remake Star Fox sequel without a silly gimmick was cancelled means the arcade shooter just really can’t go far.
>>738515523Pigma's basically the only plot relevant character in Star Wolf
>>738488154It's fine. This is a stylistic choice and not some kind of desperate attempt to appeal to modern trends like with that bomberman 360 game or cancelled realistic megaman
>>738489045They made Katt white.They could totally make Krystal a silver arctic fox.
>>738505123The Wii U flopping scared the shit out of the Nintendo fanatics and now they can't allow a single word of negativity to go unchallenged, no matter how justified, because they're so petrified of another Wii U.I'm convinced that it's a "purpose of a system is what it does" situation: Nintendo deliberately set up the Wii U to fail to cause this exact reaction from the more rabid part of its fanbase, since they had gotten too uppity for the suits' liking by forcing them to lower the 3DS' price.
>>738505342Those comparisons are delusional cope, though. They very obviously were jist attempting to make Star Fox look ultra-realistic and missed the mark. Any "creepiness" to the designs is a failure of execution, not a deliberate artistic choice. And even if the execution had been better, it's still an ill-fitting style for the IP.
>>738522489>You guys do realize that this is a reboot with the intention of making new games in this established continuity, right?How many times does Miyamoto have to rugpull you with this exact same scam before you stop being so fucking gullible?The chances of a sequel would objectively be much higher if they had reintroduced the series with a good new game, not the third demake of a 30-year-old game in the last 15 years that looks like a jeet made it with AI. This is going to flop and the IP will be put back in the vault for another decade until Hackamoto and his yes-men decide it's time to demake SF64 again.
>>738528602or even worse>we're so glad everyone enjoyed the new star fox going back to its roots as a rail shooter>we are happy to announce the sequel>who wants to go platforming on a dinosaur planet?
>>738488639These characters look totally fine. You homos are seriously deranged
The music tracks they gave us are some strong orchestrations.
>>738513505Seethe, furfag. You belong in a grave. I'm glad Nintendo has put you in your place.
>>738524261When has this actually ever been their intention? AFAIK they had continuity until sales collapsed and then they've been trying to reboot it since.
>>738488639Its crazy how much better they look by just fixing the torso and legs
>>738488154I love their new designs, they look awesomeI dont understand this fake outrage campaign against themIs it nintenkiddies that wanted more flat cartoon graphics?
>>738531181I concur, my fellow Nintendo® fan! Let the greatest blast of all be had!
>>738488639slightly improved in this one. Now he actually looks like the falco
>>738531314legs are whatever, but the sharper expression is a tad better. smile not extending to base of beak seems like a very odd choice and would interfere with emoting (beaks don't bend)
Ahem. STARFOX ASSUALT IS A BIG PILE OF SHIT, AND KRYSTAL IS RUBBISH
>look like the puppets instead of "hyper falco fucking skyscrapers on e621: 9000 results">furries lose their mindsHAHAHAHAHA
>>738523467why do the designs look so much better here? Is it literally just that they have big eyes and they're actually emoting?
>>738522489If they're going to do that (which I'm not even saying is a bad idea), at least have a bonus route of all new material.I want to play a new game, man.
>>738531439>beaks dont bendneither do snouts or any other animal furry features. Look at the crazy lizard face bending in the Oblivion Remake. They have ultra realistic scalie faces yet they have super flexible emotive expressions. You can still be realistic and take creative liberties at the same time.
Slippy looks the worst
>>738528081Pretty sure the people who bought the Wii U are those most critical of nintendo, and the bootlickers are the switch secondaries, they're the type to say "zelda was always bad until BotW came around"
>tendies crawling out of the woodworks to defend a game they will not buyWhy? The same thing happened to Metroid Prime 4.
>>738527078>nintendo is so behind the curve they made their own Bomberman: Act ZeroGrim
People seem to be in denial that the characters look like puppets. Everyone that loves them just immediately notices that. And the people who hate them are grasping for answers. You wouldn't have multiple questions about the design decisions if you knew the answer to all of them was "puppets". Look at the posture on this thing. Look at the neck. Look at the legs. What did they do to him. What did they do to her. Where is Krystal. Pigmas a good guy now. Why is he a chicken. Why does it look like Fantastic Mr. Fox.Puppets. No, not those puppets. These are new, upgraded and 3D modeled. Its just easier to explain if you've ever seen the old box art. Have you ever seen jim henson movies, its like that. Think Star Wars, same puppets as in those movies. Look at how dark and moody the lighting is in the new remake. You want textures and crevices to play with that light.That is so obviously the art direction, because if it was just HD texture AI-slop upscale, it would look like the fixes being suggested. Same mascot fursuits, slightly adjusted, and ran through a slop filter.
>>738532095My sweet boy looks fine
>>738532217Why is he the only one wearing human shoes?
>>738532217At least he has normal legs, didn't see the webbed hands before
>>738531314Nah, just enlarge the lower half of the legs and maybe make the eyes a bit larger. All you need.See >>738518007
>>738532320Oh I dig the webbed hands. Nice little detail.
>>738532287Frogs aren't digitidrade
>>738532156the game literally doesn't look bad. I'm just disappointed that it isn't a new game.If you want a SF64 remake, with expanded story and stuff, knock yourself out. It looks well put together.Kids who are playing it as their first SF game will probably like it. >Nooooo! The animal isn't sexy and I don't want to fuck him!Sir, this is an arcade style shooting game, with an age rating of 7...
>>738532163Pigma isn't a good guy now. that was a flashback.
>>738532501kids don't want ugly realistic looking animals, they wanted the guy from the movie
>>738532684nobody wanted fox from the movie except furries gooning over his dick sucking lips get real
I fucking hate furries and Smash secondaries
>>738532684Stop talking to other people's children, anon.
>>738532328nah his new head looks retarded. He doesn't look anything close to a bird of prey anymore, he looks like a female secretary bird. The fan edit I posted actually looks like Falco, the character we grew up on. They Donkey Kong'd my Falco
>>738498328Correct. Nintendo wants to be modern Disney
>>738505123It's just trannyism spreading through discords and online communities like a plague as it always does
>>738532796>falcon looks like a falcon instead of a rito from tloz>hE LoOkS LiKe A sECrEtArY bIRd!!!yeah nah, he's always been based on a vietnamese pheasant anyway
>>738532163The whole debate over what PRECISE thing influenced the new designs is so pointless. The influences are broad but apparent. I see a lot of Rango in it personally, but quibbling over whether puppets is dumb, when that was undoubtedly on their minds if we're also thinking about it, as passive observers. They're coming from the "so gnarly and convincingly real that it becomes absurdly entertaining" school of design.People who insist there was zero inspiration or vision behind it - that the goal is rank realism for the sake of 4k ultra HD graphics - resist and reject depth & understanding with every fiber of their being.I guaran-fucking-tee you they will put out an "Art of Star Fox 64 Remake" art book at some point and you're going to see how much care went into it, in physical form.
>>738522489>every bad game is a reboot of the series, the good games will come after!The same cope for Metroid Prime 4. What will the next franchise be that gets it
>>738488154They're awful and I'm not going to pretend they're good just because we've been deprived of a Star Fox game for so long. And the people defending this shit are already playing from the SJW playbook, using phrases like "you only hate it because you can't fap to it" and "this is making all the right people mad so I love it."No matter how much you think you hate tourists you don't hate them enough.
>>738533159so realism is only good when nintendo does it, okay got it
Every Switch 2 game has a controversy
>>738533254modern internet discourse. Nintendo does a thing, and people must seethe.
>>738533254It's almost like without Iwata Nintendo doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. Their current CEO used to be the accountant ffs.
>>738533159This game is being made for the retards who watch Disney live action remakes and think they're for adults just because they're "realistic."
>>738533254just wait until a third botw styled Zelda game releases
>>738488154>They don't look like puppetsthey havent looked like puppets since the puppets were used for marketing 33 years ago
>>738533231>resists and rejects depth & understanding with every fiber of his beingI just don't can't understand how people move through life blissfully untapped into the current of culture like this. It seems like a broke-ass existence.
>>738533091regardless he looks retarded. he doesnt look like falco at all. he doesnt look like a smug cocky sonnovabitch. he looks like a soulless intern falco look-alike that got hired to be put in falcos shoes.
>>738533320Iwata was incompetent on the best of days.People's rose tinted goggles for the Iwata years are insane.I was actually there at the time, and all of the long time Nintendo fans hated their gimmick controls, and stupid bullshit like Link's Crossbow training and Wii Music. The 3DS bombed for like a year, the Wii U never stopped bombing.>Reggie would have saved us!Reggie was a stupid asshole who blocked the release of Disaster Day of Crisis, because he didn't get the appeal.
>"furries hate it because they can't jack to it!">Blaidd is hyperrealism>TMNT and Gargoyles are blocky toy selling 80s characters with zero budget>Bingo is from a calarts cartoon for toddlers>people think the "toony" cartoons like Looney Tunes, Sam and Max and the Cheetos cheetah are hotProfessional furry here. Furries are still masturbating to Star Fox 5 so I don't know what this "furries are the only ones hating this" strawman is coming from.
>>738506642>>738524936Digitigrade legs are not part of Star Fox's visual language and never have been, except some of the dinosaurs in Star Fox Adventures. They don't belong, plain and simple, and Fox is not supposed to have an elongated torso and slouched posture. It's all wrong, and that's not even taking into account how bad they fucked up his face. He doesn't even look like a character, he's literally just a photorealistic fox wearing Fox McCloud's clothes. Who was this even for?
>>738533616its just rightoid chuds trying to stick it to the furries because they think furries are the reason they cant like an IP anymore. Realistic rendering is actually pretty cute and sexy. Its the fact that their models are poorly made and they have retarded faces is why i cant fap to it.
>>738533724>Digitigrade legs are not part of Star Fox's visual language and never have beenwell they are now
>>738533724These are by far the worst ever star fox designs out of any gameDamn dude what a disaster, people like this shit?Falco looks like a metrosexual faggot and Fox is a stuffed toy
>>738533748>ERM IT'S NOT THE FURRIES THAT ARE MAD>although since the face looks like an animal instead of a traditional cartoonish furry I am mad>BUT THAT'S UNRELATED STOP STRAWMANNING
>>738533724>He doesn't even look like a character, he's literally just a photorealistic fox wearing Fox McCloud's clothesYou are massively inept.
>>738533781Just like how Rey is a part of Star Wars now. That doesn't mean we should accept it.
I don't know why Japan is the only country to like the necks on their animal characters to do that arch/slump huge neck look. It's a complete detriment to the designs for the game. It'd be even less of a problem if the comm windows were face forward like they always were, but they're not. Now I have to look at their awful posture when I could have easily ignored that and the disproportionately long waists against their stubby legs.
>>738533724>Digitigrade legs are not part of Star Fox's visual languageThey could be if it was done right. I love digitigrade legs on my anthros, but yeah this isn't done tastefully or with any effort.
>>738513505Fuck Square for normalizing this bullshit.
>>738533615Iwata worshippers are misguided and shortsided nostalgiafags.But Reggie worshippers are genuinely insane.
>>738533724I don't like the super-heroification of the designs in Assault.
I like how weird they look. You guys just want the same safe designs forever
>>738533918Star Fox characters have had plantigrade feet for 30 years. This is as dumb and incorrect as female space marines in Warhammer 40k, and the people saying "finally, this is a change that was needed for a long time" are tourists cut from the same cloth.
>>738533824>looks like an animal instead of a cartoonish furryIt doesn't at fucking all? Fox looks like cartoonish furry with realistic fur. There's literally nothing "realistic" about these designs at all. Fox doesn't even look like a Fox, he looks like a Corgi.
>>738534024It's a remake so the selling point is the designs. Star Fox 64 is available to me right now on my 3DS, Wii, Wii U and PC.
>>738513505>>738533948It's almost like middle aged men crying about every single new release is getting old.>waah all vidja sucks now!I'm sorry your midlife crisis is hitting you guys so hard but just get a new hobby.
>>738534040>This is as dumb and incorrect as female space marines in Warhammer 40kOh god you're one of those. Listen dude, its just fictional characters. Giving sonic the wrong color arms isn't the end of the world. Heres an old image I found of Starfox fan design. something like this would have made the characters actually look like cool mercs instead of weird abominations
>>738516930This?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHx2XmfcWIU
>>738488154https://store.steampowered.com/app/2784620/ROGUE_FLIGHT/
>>738534278>scary red eyes, and robot clawsThat looks stupid
>>738534340at least the proportions aren't retarded
>>738534280Yeah.
WHO FUCKING CARES THAT THE ANIMALS LOOK LIKE DIFFERENT ANIMALS THAN YOU WANTED JESUS CHRIST POST 1000 MORE THREADS ABOUT IT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, HOW THE FUCKING GAME PLAYSAHHHHHHHHHHP.S the "I fixed the designs" threads are cringe my dudes
>>738534415anon, these "people" don't care about the gameplay lmfao
>>738534415>POST 1000 MORE THREADS ABOUT IT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, HOW THE FUCKING GAME PLAYSThe game plays the same it has for the last 30 yearsIf the only new thing is the designs, people will talk about the designs
>>738534191Every time we warn you alphoomers that these radical reinventions of beloved IPs are going to blow up in the studio's face, we are proven right. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth lost money because it sold way fewer copies than Remake, and now Square is scrambling to figure out how to finish the story on a smaller budget.And I have seen the proof that this is a disaster, too. After Fox appeared in the Mario Galaxy movie, all we saw for a month was people gushing about how Fox was back and how they loved him and the way he looked in the movie. And what reaction did this "new" game get? At best, it could be said the fans are at each other's throats, but it's really a battle between disappointed fans and the tourists who are treating this shit like it's the lasted Disney live action remake and defending it to the death, at least until the next glitzy new big budget butchering of a beloved IP comes along, and it will be the fans who are left with a broken IP yet again while the tourists forget it ever happened.
>>738534415>>738534467The gameplay is an exact 1:1 copy of a 30 year old game.
>>738534415We know how the game plays, exactly like the N64 release
>>738532217Somehow Slippy ends up being the only character whose legs they didn't fuck up.
>>738534467The design is all there is to talk about because we've all played this game before 4 times on 4 different systems. All we can do now is express our shock at how different the character designs are for better or worse, and how good the rest of the game looks.
>>738516173No they don't. I'm tired of this gaslighting that's going on. They are nothing like the SNES designs.
>>738534415Yeah, it's always a presumption that the artists "didn't get" the character, because it's not more like a previous design.They don't design things like this by mistake, bros...
I can only assume these designs are born from them trying to work backwards on how to expand on a 64 Remaster>We want to do 64 again, but how do we do that while making sure the gameplay is as strong as ever, but still making this a distinct version? Expand on the story>Expanded story means more dialogue and more banter, meaning we probably need to play into the more serious aspects of the setting.>More serious story telling fits more realistic portrayals of the characters, which we can base roughly off the puppet aesthetic the series has had over the years.I don't mind this look if it's a one off, and at the very least I'll take something visually experimental and distinct to their other games that doesn't just treat the series as the same bright and cartoony entity as Mario
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE3qpoqWhfoThoughts? The main menu and Venom Incident don't do it for me but the rest sounds fine.
>>738533616The only people who are saying "furries hate it because they can't jack to it" are retards who have no idea about furry shit in the first place but hate it because it's one of the many in things to hate. They literally don't know what people like but le furry bad so they think it's one over on them because of it. And I say that as someone who is a Star Fox fan that isn't a furry (not even a "except for Krystal" type, I don't find her hot).
>>738533231Realism is good when it isn’t done for its sake. The game is 15 GB, so it’s done deftly rather than brute-forced.If we’re insinuating critiques on PS and Xbox titles, my personal take is that PS realism also includes social realism, which takes away from the escapism (my preference) provided by video games.
the starfox threads we had post mario galaxy movie were fun, I miss them
>>738521174>>738521640>see female figures>MUST BE MEN!!
