They absolutely refuse to give it a chance.
post a webm of the gameplay
>>738491165Is DQIII HD Remake on the Switch 2 worth $30?
They bought into the lie that its generic and simplistic when its actually one of the most innovative and creative RPG series out there. You can thank people like Jeremy Parish for molding that perception.
>>738491165It's boring and not as good as FF.
>>738491165No Japan has a nasty habit of gatekeeping this game and chooses what to dripfeed to the west
>>738491165Dragon Quest has too much whimsy for the modern JRPG audience.
>>738493991>No Japan has a nasty habit of gatekeeping this game and chooses what to dripfeed to the westThere literally isn't a single game not in English that people would actually like.
>>738494137At this point yeah maybeBut way back it was damn near impossible to find or get these games not to mention ANY information or advertising about them
4 niggas
Dragon Ball is good because of Toriyama's writing. All other Jap writing sucks. It's why Dragon Quest is boring.
>>738491165The character designs don't look cool.
>>738494528....dicks in your ass
>>738491165I'd like it if it was funIt isnt
>>738491165Because the only reason anyone could like DQ is nostalgia so since the west doesn't have any naturally DQ is a flop in the west since objectively as a series it's way worse than 90% of JRPGs.
I’m a big fan of dragon quest monsters. Except for Psaro being the payoff for my eugenics that’s so fucking gay I hate Psaro I wanted a cool golem.
how's the gameplay?
>>738494451>But way back it was damn near impossible to find or get these gamesOnly 5 and 6 of the main titles didn't get released in English originally, and I wouldn't say those were gonna light the world on fire.>not to mention ANY information or advertising about themDW1 was literally given away for free and nobody cared.
>>738491165>what if final fantasy had slightly better gameplay but way worse everything else>mc is always silent protag>villain is always generic evil demon lord except they don't come off as even slightly intimidating>battle themes kinda suck. Sugiyama is overrated as hell.>world is always very basic and generic with little real world-building
>>738494914>DW1 was literally given away for free and nobody cared.I did, I loved that game and played it multiple times start to finish
>>738491165Its sold decently in the west that's why they keep bringing it over. A lot of jrpg's are better though and prime FF mogged it hard.DQ was a cultural phenomenon (DQIII specifically) and imprinted it self on a generation. Every country has local things like this but you can't expect it to happen everywhere at once so DQ just doesn't have the same pull here.
>>738494914I know you arent in your forties so how the fuck would you know?
>>738495145Because this is all known and easily accessible history.
>>738491165exact same enemy designs they've had the from the beginning with multiple color versions in a single game gets really old really fast
>>738494937>slightly better gameplay2/10 bait. Gameplay is the biggest thing FF as a series has over DQ.
>>738491165For me? The fact that you couldn't see your characters in battle. Also the music sucks.
>>738491165I’ve played 5, 8, and 11 and I liked them all (I’d go as far to say that I loved 5). I intend to play 4 and 7 at some point.
>>738494937>battle themes kinda suck. Sugiyama is overrated as hell.He’s good at whimsical and a genuine embarrassment whenever he tries to be “epic”
>>738495328this right herehave to use a fucking mod to make the characters visible during combat
>>738495175Well I was there and yeah people cared about the Nintendo Power giveaway, it was a huge thing actually and Dragon Warrior was a popular game at that pointAnd yes the sequels were actually pretty hard to find considering the SNES came out about a year later and NES was phased out pretty quickly. Personally I saw Dragon Warrior 2 out in the wild but never 3 or 4 and I never saw another Dragon Quest game until the PS2 came out and it was a fucking PS1 game(DQ7)Yeah Id say that japan screwed the pooch on this series and literally only had DQ8 came out after the very first one that was popular again
>>738495320no it doesn't. -DQ is usually harder than FF and has bosses that aren't immune to every single status effect.-The enemy group system also makes even normal encounters more interesting. -It also usually has significantly better exploration though even that's kind of gone by the wayside in later games. -MP actually means something since getting any revival items at all is extremely rare so if your healer dies you need to go back to the nearest priest
I'm literally falling asleep bored every time I try it out.
>>738496237What jrpgs would you recommend?
>>738491165It's boring as hell. >oh but anon it invented those tropesI don't care.
>>738491165>westernersDon't larp like you are on that side of the ocean>hateNo one gives a fuck about it.
>>738496376This. Whenever someone brings up "Muh influence" I instantly discard their opinion cause they're just admitting they're basically incapable of actually judging things critically and impartially. It's also not a defense for how shit the later games are. 11 is the only DQ worth playing.
>>738496376DQ got most of its tropes from Wizardry which japan was obsessed with before DQ existed.
>>738491165The reason we have DQ in the west still is because of Reggie Fils-Aime, a westerner.
>>738491165>Final Fantasy is already the entrenched JRPG brand in the west and the gold standard for them with E33 and Atlus both making headway at smushing themselves into that market.>It's viewed as fairly generic for a JRPG in the west and as a series doesn't do anything interesting in the genre whatsoever.>Everyone associates the art style with Dragon Ball so they feel like it's generic or a knockoff of DBZ when they do see it.>As a series it was extremely difficult to get into prior to the PS2 where they seemed to actually try advertising 8 and then relied on Nintendo on the DS to carry them (Which also didn't really work).>DQ11 is technically the first time people in the west actually cared about the brand outside of DQ8.Pretty easy to understand why.
>>738491165>grind>grind>grind>grind>grindNo action commands or anything to get you immersed in the gameplay. Just pure grinding until you get to the next town, buy the new armor, get to the next area afterwards, buy the new weapon, just boring.
>>738496951I Atlus made an SMT game that is mostly gameplay without the calander social sim shit and with a proper party system instead of summoning demons it would basically be a replacement for DQ as a bog standard JRPG since SMT gameplay is the peak of standard JRPG gameplay while FF is the experimental one so it doesn't overlap as much with DQ.
>>738491165>don't release a single game before VIIIthey didn't even want to give a chance
>>738491165I don't like mainline Dragon Quest because I love the monsters more than I like the people in every single DQ game. I like DQM way more because it lets me have the monsters as my main party members instead.I hope TDP gets a Professional edition soon.
>>738496709Shut up tendie, grown folks are talking
>>738491846This is the truth and it's telling on the bad taste of western JRPG fans that they don't see this. Western fans seem to really hate the minimal focus on what you might call "world theming", i.e. the series is happy to have a basic western fantasy setting that doesn't do the crazy Japanese metaphysical shit that you see in Final Fantasy and the like. They put way too much emphasis on this, and to little on just how excellent the series is at NPC interaction, exploration and just how good it is as fundamental gameplay design that actively avoids problems that plague most JRPG series that came after.
>>738491165Because you play one you've played them all, every single one is basically the same game complete with the same fucking music8 is the only one that's slightly unique
>>738497308>I hope TDP gets a Professional edition soon.I wouldn't count on it, it feels like they just kind of crapped the game out and left it to die.
>>738491165I got halfway through DQ2 before realising I'd rather be doing literally anything else. There's a reason FF left it in the dust, the story is lacklustre and the combat is a chore even by turn-based standards. Other DQs are actually pretty decent, but DQ2 is an excercise in tedium.
>>738497242>>don't release a single game before VIII?????The first 4 games and 7 were already released in the west before 8 came out.
>>738491165Extremely slow burn and repetitive. Find new town > kill monsters > buy new gear > go kill boss > find new town. Your characters don't advance that much in interesting ways. Weak story.I like it though I've beat a few of them but they're not for everyone, you really have to embrace the slow opium drip and slip into a rpg coma doing the same tasks over and over.
i beat dq 1(gb) and 3(snes), very fun, love the customizable party on 3 but the music is just fuckin awful my first impression of a jrpg is always the music and DQ suck balls greatly.
Dragon Quest is mainstream in Japan because over there it doesn't just appeal to older more dedicated jrpg fans, it's actually big with kids as well. Even then, among dedicated western jrpg players, many just don't appreciate games with that kind of mostly innocent and whimsical nature. Westerners will almost always be bogged down by a huge amount of the kinds of people who want muh mature and gritty story.
>>738495328>>738495437This sucks but it's more of an issue in something like Etrian Odyssey, where you want to see all those cute lolis you carefully picked at all times.
>>738491165I love this seriesKinda sad that people don't want to even try, they're (mostly) all good gamesBut, idk, people play what they want to play; I guess we got Japan carrying us, so we keep getting games
>>738497327>the series is happy to have a basic western fantasy setting calling it a setting alone is generous. It never feels like a well-developed world, it's just basic in every way to the point where it feels hollow and uninteresting. >NPC interactionlmao what? All of the NPCs are static. This isn't an Elder Scrolls game>explorationpeaked in the earlier titles and 6 and it's been downhill since then.
>>738497593No they weren't
>>738491165(Native) Isekai is bad. Westerners aren't as invested in seeing their fantasy GPA tick up.
4-6 remake when9 remake whenThese games are so great I'm actually always happy to play remakes of the remakes...
>>738493968Not modern, corridor simulator FF though.
>>738497680>they're (mostly) all good gamesI played them all except for the MMO and I'm honestly surprised to say there's not a single bad entry (though I realize people shit talk the original 2 on the NES, I had a great time with the SNES remake tho)
I’m playing DQ7 Reimagined right now. It took me 40 hours just to finally get to change jobs. I don’t see why it had to take so long. If the other games are like this, I’m just gonna go back to playing souls-likes instead.
>>738498214>If the other games are like this, I’m just gonna go back to playing souls-likes instead.DQ7 is pretty infamously the most drawn out game in the entire fucking series.
>>738495328>the music sucks
>>738497319Holy retard
>>738498214The original goes 2 hours before the first battle. The devs seemed to be trying to make the most boring game possible.
>>738496237this is just the genre itself
>>738498350Nah, he's right. Dragon Quest music is boring as shit and only made worse by the composer being an autist who refuses to let them use the orchestrated versions unless you shell out extra.
>>738498214Because 7 sucks ass. I literally put the game on easy for everything and just speed ran the game to get the job changes because holy fuck is 7 boring as fuck before you can change jobs.
>>738491165Because it's fucking ugly.Ys, pokemon, trails, star Ocean, phantasy star, and tales have better looking girls.
>>738495328>The fact that you couldn't see your characters in battle.Didn't the 1-3 remakes fix this? At least it looked like it in the first trailer.
>>738498801You can see your characters while you pick orders, but it switches to the old first person pespective when they do attack
>>738498857Okay that's gay. I really like 8 and 11 but I don't care about trying the others if they're dungeon crawler style, hate that shit.
>>738491165I've found that Dragon Quest is the only RPG recommendation I can make that people will actually give a shot, honestly. Recommended a friend play System Shock once, and then gave him a DQ1+2 rec and he loved the series like instantly. >>738491315Yeah, I'd say so. My favorite version of 3 is SNES, but both it and the remake could stand to be a bit harder at points. If difficulty is what you want, you may want to play it on NES. >>738498657>Playing Ys for the girlsYou're not adventure pilled enough, anon.
>>738491165probably db art style?i only play rpg because db art style though otherwise i dont even want to look at any of them
>>738498932>Playing Ys for the girlsThe funniest part is that Adol abandons all of the main girls in each game anyway, the guy's too adventure-sexual
>>738499105He's fantastic as a main character because of that. He just wants more installments and that's cool. I think if his heart's out there for anyone anyways it's probably Feena. I should replay Ys 1 and 2, it's been a bit. Love those games.
>>738491165the monsters and spells are waaaaaaaaaaaay too goofy. nobody cares that toriyama drew them either.
>>738499272Spells didn't get the goofy names until 8 was localized, anon. Honestly, I like em. Dragon Quest has a fairy tale atmosphere to it (both with the good and bad that its heroes and worlds go through) and it fits.
I tried almost all them and they're just kinda boring idk. Plus when people tell you to play a dragon quest game 9 times out of 10 they will recommend you play a remake that ruins the balance of the OG game
>>738499105Well except for the one that stalks him after her death
>>738491315Be worth if including three games
>>738491165hard to like a series that has the worst translation ever made
>>738499753SE should have just done what they did with the FF1-6 Pixel Remaster for DQ and just batch rereleased the oldest games instead of remaking them.
>>738499692Dana? I think in Ys 9 a bunch of different past characters talk to him in one of the questlines, including Dark Fact and Feena. It was a nice touch, I'm with the other anon and I think he's probably still stuck with his crush for Feena.
>>738499816The remakes are really high quality tho, if anything they should've done the same for FF1-6
>>738499919FF1-6 hold up perfectly fine by modern standards. In fact FF1-6 feel more modern than even DQ11 when it comes to features and QOL.
>>738491165I don't know, but if I did I would encourage it.The less people touching my stuff, the better.
Everyone in the west is a fag and can't handle the cute girls in this series.
>>73849835040 years, still only one TownMusic.mp2 repeating a 90second loop.
>>738494528>4 niggasWhy is it always 4. Any good 5 niggas or 3 niggas games?
>>738491165
>>738503234DQ2 is literally 3niggas. Hell, so is FFVII, FFVIII and FFX, come to think of it. FFIV is 5niggas.
>>738503689>DQ2I'm a zoom zoom, I started on 4. Might go try some FF if these unconventional ones are fun.
>>738497602>Your characters don't advance that much in interesting ways. Weak story.Have you played Dragon Quest V? You literally play out the main character's entire life story throughout that game. I thought the way the plot progressed in V was really creative and interesting.
>>738491165Most people's perception is that it's a basic, no-frills JRPG with both its detractors mentioning it and its fans saying they like that about it. To people who don't like JRPGs that isn't appealing at all, and for those who do it holds some appeal, but probably isn't as enticing as other games they could play that could be novel on top of being well-made.
I love Dragon Quest!
>>738491165>picGohan is cosplaying again
>>738491165>Toriyama art style>Turn based RPG >Westerners have the attention span of gold fishGee I wonder why they hate it
>>738491165>Assumes they hate it.Nah, they just don't care.
>>738491165not a westerner and still think DQ is badeven as a shonen hater I think Dragon Ball has a more fascinating story and world than DQ. When translated into a turn-based JRPG properly it would be more interesting as well, albeit sillier.>>738498082Yeah that person should have highlighted "FF4-10."
>>738506914*not a shonen hater just skeptic.Maybe DQV is the only one I can appreciate, which OP's pic didn't show.
>>738505410Based, me too.
Not me I bought the HD-2D Erdrick Trilogy and VII reimagined.
DQ6 is so insanely fucking boring and slow, I've never even made it to the real gameWhy would you make a game with such an awful intro?
>>738491165slop enix has never made a single good game
>>738491165All part of western conditioning from the global elites to teach westerners to avoid anything with soul.
>>738491165I found the stories to be more juvenile. If you're into shonenshit, you probably like DQ. Personally, I'm not too fond of shonen.
>>738491165they wasted a smash slot on these literally whos, i'd rather get another Fire Emblem rep
>>738491165So many RPGs focus too much on positioning for tactical depth. We need more squad base combat.
>>738491165Toriyama sameface ruined every design
>>738503234>3 niggas games?SMT Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2Xenoblade 1Final Fantasy 12Final Fantasy 13Monster Sanctuary
>>738491165I hate it because Japan loves it :)
>>738508101>XenobladeNot sure how I forgot. 1 and 2 were both kino.>FFAnother anon mentioned FF too. Am I good to start on one of these three niggas entries or is that stupid?
>>738507560kys
Dragon Quest gameplay is way too repetitive imo and that's why a lot of westerners don't want to play it.Personally I still played a few because I enjoy the stories a lot but I wouldn't call these games innovative at least not in the last decade or so
>>738491165For me its just Toriyamas art. I understand people grew up watching DBZ and like all the visual silliness. I prefer neurotypical art.
>>738496110>The enemy group system also makes even normal encounters more interesting.LOL
>>738491165I enjoyed the first trilogy on GBC, played 4, ultimately still liked it a lot, but the localization was so grating that I almost dropped it over it. If we ever get a "de-accent" patch for the games I might play 5 and beyond
>>738493991TRVKEbut also the localizers didnt help.
>>738508183Why you hate Japan?
>>738508101Adding Mario and Luigi Paper Jam
RIP Akira Toriyama.
I'm waiting for DQ12
>>738503234>5 niggasRomancing SaGa 2,3SaGa FrontierSaGa Scarlet grace
>>738491165>Pirate Dragon Quest 1+2 HD remake >Play the game with English text and Jap voice acting>Jap voice say something different than the English text and the English text tries too hard to be "old English Fantasy"someone also posted that screencap with the mermaid saying goodbye in japanese and then the english version she says a full sentence lmao
saying ppl hate dq for being bland grindy game is just pure bspokemon is the most successful rpg in existence and ppl love grinding for shiny iv ev pokemonthe real answer is just the lack of release outside of jp
>>738491165Like 75% of the reason people play JRPGs is to see Cool Shit happening and Dragon Quest is a series that, despite its qualities, is very devoid of Cool Shit.Just compare the first 15 minutes of FF7 to the first 15 minutes of DQ7 and you'll see why one exploded in popularity while the other languished in obscurity.Dragon Quest has more in common tonally with farming sims like Harvest Moon and Stardew Valley than it does with its genre contemporaries.
>>738515140I do remember that one time when I had to slay the demon lord in Harvest Moon, great farming series.
>>738491165West only started getting Dragon Quest games fairly recently, and even after that we didn't get all of the mainline ones, unlike with Final Fantasy. The series simply failed to get a foothold here when it was getting frequent releases, and these days it's losing ground even in Japan because development times are so insanely long.Also unlike Japan, kids here don't really play RPGs, and modern Dragon Quest games have plots that are pretty simplistic, they really aren't going to surprise any adults.
Literally just beat DQV for the first time 10 minutes ago. It was kino. Really liked how your wife and kids would react to every small conversation and new location you visited. Do the other DQ games do something similar?
>>738491165A bit asking too much when a Jrpg isn't designed for dopamine to the modern audience don't you think?Also tf thought it was a good idea to make characters speak like brits in the english releases?
>>738491165I don't hate it. I finished 4 (DS) , 5 (DS), 8 and 11Outside of 5 i find most DQ are just very run of the mill and don't have the same highs as classic FF for me, or many other rpgs in general.Theres no cool looking spells, most of the bosses look too silly and childlike, and the plots, again, outside of 5 are just boring.It's just really hard for it to compete with me when i can play SMT or classic FF at any time
>>738491165Because they are fucking boring. The setting, dialogue, music, story, exploration, combat, all of it. It got in early, and has refused to fuck off, that is its only strength.
>>738503234FF4 is technically 5 niggas in 2 rows.
>It's boring! The music sucks! Le Toriyama same face!Holy filtered
>>738491165Because they keep fucking raping the script with localizations. Oi don wan red shiet dats riddn loight dis govena innit.
>>738491165I like some of the NES entries but I found DQXI to be very hard to get into. This isn't necessarily a criticism of DQXI directly because I can't remember much about it but JRPGs in general are best when they don't fuck around with too many mandatory cutscenes near the beginning and get you right into actual gameplay. If you want to do story stuff then do it after an hour or so of letting me kill things.
>>738491165Turn-based isn't my thing.I gave DQ11 a chance. It is a very charming game, but I eventually got bored of the shitty and repetitive combat.
Not paying for a censored western release on principle
>>738518264No, 5 is very unique among DQ for it's story
Is Reimagined really that bad?
>>738520225Turn based is fun when you’re a kid and have your vivid imagination to carry the experience
>>738520873i still do this nowadays, am i autistic?
>>738491846>You can thank people like Jeremy Parish for molding that perception.It's not really fair to try blame it on a single westoid, it's a cultural problem, if not this kike then someone else would have set off the avalanche of ignorance.
>>738499105>The funniest part is that Adol abandons all of the main girls in each game anyway, the guy's too adventure-sexualExcept on both the old PC-88 and the PC-Engine canon. Where Lilia was the main heroine and Adol even had kids with her in Dawn of Ys.
>>738491846>innovative and creative RPG series What is innovative or creative about its gameplay?
>>738520225I honestly hope DQ12 isn't turn-based.It think it is fine for 2D pixel games, but it becomes an annoying chore in 3D games. Especially when you have to watch the same fucking wind-up animations over and over and over again.
>>738494528one of the funniest ironies in gaming is how turn based jrpgs, specifically with 4 party members at once, as a "genre" has some of the wildest variety and innovation in the entire industry, and it only gets even wider and innovative if you don't limit yourself to games with specifically 4 party members in the front rowmeanwhile "real games" have become just "gun and ball", and shooters specifically have become so generic you can easily start confusing them
>>738520916No. You're just not as jaded as the other anon
>>738491165>DQ1 Hero is offered a kingdom after saving the world>Nah thanks, this place is too small for me so I will go found my own much larger kingdom instead, I'm taking the princess and will absorb your country into mine though.Still one of my most favorite endings in a game, fuck that "Heroism needs no reward and you will be happy living the rest of your life as a peasant" bullcrap so many games try to sell you.
>>738497130>Westoids need literal timed hits for dopamine or they aren't able to play more complex games than gun and ball shit.Really not beating the monkey allegations.
>>738491165They don't know about the SEX that is Maribel
>>738497207>I Atlus made an SMT game that is mostly gameplay without the calander social sim shit and with a proper party system instead of summoning demonsIt's called Digital Devil Saga
>>738521147I hate faggots like you that want franchises to change their identity that they've built simply because you personally dont like it. Dont like turn-based combat? then dont fucking play it, the world doesnt revolve around you stupid faggot.
>>738491165>turnslop menucringeWesterns do not have testosterone low enough to put up with this faggotry. Except maybe the French.
Played a few of those over the years, they simply went progressively worse as time went on and release# went up just like all of the industry
>>738491846>its actually one of the most innovative and creative RPG series out thereYou select Win from a menu. You proceed down a perfectly linear plot with perfectly on-rails characters. What in the actual, factual fuck are you talking about, pigshit retarded zoomer?No JRPG has ever actually been a real ROLE PLAYING GAME, and Dragon Quest is possibly the single most paint-by-numbers generic JRPG series of all time.
>>738522376>This is what westoids actually believe.Grim.Every day I'm thankful to not have been born as brown or dumb as the average westoid.
>>738522376Sorry there's no bear sex, faggot.
>>738521182JRPGs are not innovative. Stop misuing words, you ESL brown dumbshit.
>>738521147Because FF has been doing sooooo well ever since they abandoned their roots am I right?
>>738491165>westerners4 niggas in a row is also dying in Japan. It only works well if combined with pixel art and a 20 dollar price tag.
>>738522460>>738522463I accept the intellectual surrender of both of you retarded Thing, Japan zoomernigs
>>738522523it's almost like japan doesn't like korean games or something
>>738497207DDS 1&2?
>>738497308>I hope TDP gets a Professional edition soon.I hope it doesn't I'd rather get a new game instead but that's not happening until the next decade and it probably won't be as good as the 3ds games (again) anyway so why bother
because looks like ass
>>738523183Worse than just looking like ass, they cut like 75% of the fucking game. Who the fuck is gonna play that? Especially when the 3ds version exists if you must play a modernized version?
>>73849116511 was the first one I played.
poor marketing
>>738521587
>>738522472>Because FF has been doing sooooo well ever since they abandoned their roots am I right?You turn-trannies like to pretend that FF7R is flopping and that it will kill Square Enix, but that couldn't be further from the truth. It is actually one of the most successful game series SE has ever created.
>>738491165no hype or aura moments
>>738516028More in common does not mean the exact same game you disingenuous retard.
>>738522065>Dont like turn-based combat? then dont fucking play itThis is literally what I am doing, but it still makes you angry. It must be a brown thing.
>>738522523>7K sales in JapankekPersona 6 won't be turn-based.Calling it now.
>>738523851>This is literally what I am doing, but it still makes you angry. It must be a brown thing.
>>738491165Dragon Warrior Monsters is and has always been the superior monster collector game and I'm tired of pretending its not GOTYAY because a bunch of millenials and zoomers cant have sex.
You play one game and you've pretty much seen them all
>>738507907>no Jagged Alliance in the example games
>>738494937I can't even remember any of the main villains besides the horse guy who wasn't the main bad guy.
>>738491165>Why do westerners hate Dragon Quest so much?I don't hate it. I think the games are very charming. I just can't get into the gameplay.
>>738523670I've always hated that the sword in the DQ logo has no real blade. It's just a slab of metal.
>>738491165It wasn’t lightning in a bottle like Final Fantasy
>>7384945284 guys you can’t even fucking see do their attacks unlike in Final Fantasy, AGAIN
Where the fuck is my DQ9 port?
>>738496951Also you can marry shortstack wife Veronica
>>738499816>>738499919>>738499965In fact I wish they remade FF1 through 6 separately like they’re doing with the DQ remakes. The only good Pixel Remaster is FF3.
>>738491165If I had to guess, I'd say it's the>uninnovative gameplay>sameface galore>completely unserious tone and enemy design>ridiculously stagnant and basic storylines>mogged by almost every JRPG franchise ever made, yet somehow remains popular>exclusivity
they dont hate it, they just dont care
>>738503572
>>738511991RIP Koichi Sugiyama
>>738491165>You must go to the Castle of Kingsfall >There's now a 3 hour quest>in a """"shocking"""" turn of events, it turns out that it wasn't the Demon Innosaur but it was instead Princess Traitorbottom that pushed King Highfallen out of a window
>>738491165I gave it a chance: played 1, 3 and 11. Top tier art but absolute garbage gameplay. This is a problem with every turn based JRPG, I know FF7 millennials want to pretend it's deep and tactical but really it is not. Maybe Trails with its fire emblemish combat is, but otherwise maybe (and it's more of a not really) only SMT has not braindead turn based combat. But Dragon Quest takes the cake for just really being about using buffs + your strongest attack for the whole game. Pokemon of all games is deeper having at least a weakness system.DQ is just inherently a series for jap casuals who like number going up. No matter how much senile "real gamers" try to spin it because they want the seniority gamer cred
>>738520225Dumb Meme, that would be more like Visual Novel gameplay.
>>738526052Nah, it is accurate. >>738520225
>>738526148Nigga even in your gameplay it shows various skills/spells/items being used.What in the absolute fuck are you on about and why westoids are obsessed with trying to push this forced meme?
>>738520225retarded meme.how are you going to move around without your stick
>>738491223He already did in the OP.
yaoi garbage
>>738525302>uninnovated gameplayHistorically wrong>sameface galoreOverexaggerated >completely unserious tone and enemy designThat's the appeal>Ridiculously stagnant and basic storylinesSee above, but also they're competently done and engaging >Mogged by almost every JRPG franchise ever madeFinal Fantasy has been dead for nearly 20 years, SMT got usurped by its own spinoff, that of which only releases one game a decade, and Tales was never relevant.
>>738491165It's even more generic and simplistic than Talesslop which is already bargain bin tier as far as RPGs
>>738491165its like SMT, but bad
