>>738495251
If that little cunt demon stole from me, why does everyone get pissed off when I throw her down a hill? She deserved it. I thought they would be happy.
Also, the trader refuses to trade with you for saying they possess devilish qualities and then 5 minutes later you meet one who literally sets herself on fire whenever she gets mad.

>rpg with characters of every opinion and the player freedom to side with or kill any or every one of them... Has characters I don't agree with?! DROPPED
Your parents dropped you.

>>738495646
You're full of shit if you think you weren't railroaded into siding with the refugees in the glade.

>>738495962
How could you be? It's literally two fucking clicks to railroad a railroad spike up their ass and end that plot progression

>>738495962
Just like how you were railroaded into sucking Gale's cock?

nothing like comically evil villains because nuance and good writing is hard
plz ignore that nothing ever changes And you leave every area before anything important happens

you don't threaten to kill kids, goldberg

>>738495962
I killed both the refugees and the druids

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>>738496120
She's not comically evil, she's been misled by a cabal of evil druids
Which you would know if you had played the game. You clearly haven't. Why are you spending valuable hours of your life shitposting about a game you haven't played?

>gamers are so spineless they call any sort of framing "railroading"

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>>738496059
the devs seemed to think so

>>738495251
yeah even as a "lefty" this first area was just so heavy-handed it felt like a parody. you get the feeling that the "good" opinion is that the tieflings and other refugees should just be able to do anything they want in the grove with absolutely no consideration to the druids, their religion, or others who lived there. somehow a tiefling girl stealing an artifact of religious and cultural importance is portrayed in such a way that kaga is evil because she stopped a theft from happening and wants to punish a crime. kaga being influenced by "evil" druids absolutely does not change my opinion on anything. like where did this attitude come from where the guest should be in charge of the household.

OP you didn't play this game. Sex with Khaga.

>>738496332
>like where did this attitude come from where the guest should be in charge of the household.
This is literally what the shadow druids were doing

>>738496332
Her punishment is siccing a venomous snake on the girl that would kill her in an instant

>>738495251
The Druid's Grove can never get a truly happy ending either
>Kagha left in charge means the Grove falls to the Shadow Druids and they lock themselves off and go crazy
>Kagha being convinced to step down means the Grove stays open but they're left leaderless

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You can side with her.

>Kagha: I'M GOING TO EXECUTE THIS CRYING CHILD BY MAKING A SCARY SNAKE BITE HER. DON'T YOU DARE STOP ME, OTHER DRUIDS, BECAUSE I AM FUCKING PISSED AT THIS KID.
>/v/: Wow these druids are so good and fair, I really don't know why anyone would side with the refugees

>>738495251
>dropped this shit right there
why didn't you just raid and burn down the grove then?

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>>738495962
You can literally murder all of them and you get an exclusive compation out of that.

>>738495251
You should drop your life too, because there are real child murdering bigots out there, why wait, just end yourself

>>738496838
What? You can expose her, halsin demotes her and brings in some high ranking druid from somewhere else to take over.

>>738496059
I forget the number of choices it was, but at release talking to Gale was like:
>want to talk about magic
>yes
>should we also make out???
>eh, no.

I didnt talk to Gale the rest of my game.

>>738495251
its funny dark urge used to just be the default player character. obvious why that had to be changed everyone shit their pants when they're forced to kill someone

>>738497028
Only character you are forced to kill as dark urge is the bard

>>738497061
and "people" shat their pants over that + there's a squirrel you have to kick and that also got "people"

>>738496948
Oh, Halsin is always hostile to me in the goblin camp

>>738497061
not just that, they dont even like the implication that they are a bad person.

I ate Gale

>>738497270
stop throwing rocks at animals

>>738496332
Threatening a child with death for attempting to steal the mona lisa would be similarly insane

>>738497028
Yeah, you could tell where Larian's efforts were going when they didn't make urge the default custom option. It's all about mass appeal, and anything even slightly uncomfortable or morally gray would detract from that.

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>>738497004
use the female gale mod + voice conversion mod

>Khaga killing children in the grove is bad
>Halsin killing children in the goblin camp is good
Make it make sense

>>738497340
No it wouldn't

>>738497429
goblins are irredeemable, tieflings arent

>>738497429
Refugees good
British bad
EZPZ

>>738497429
Goblins are always evil, and goblin life is a net negative on the world. As long as goblins exist we can't ever truly rest. Goblin genocide = World peace.

>>738497378
is the voice any good?? i should really replay this game, when i finished it mods weren't even off the ground yet.

arent there at least 2 ways to genocide them between being a murder hobo or siding with the goblins or whatever

>>738497809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T87-K8WYRoc

>>738497467
Yes it would you fucking weirdo. Nobody but actual barbarians put children to death

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>>738495962
you literally get your dick sucked and fucked by this character for siding with her in joining an army to kill them all and its easy lol
sneed

>>738496786
>>738497340
retard

>>738495251
You are not against refugees in principle, if the game had the refugees as european people you would support helping them out, correct?

Lets face it, the truth is that refugee scam is not really the issue, its the population replacement, which is a valid issue.

Anyway the game gives you choices and the game shows you real life concerns that refugees shift the culture and attract trouble which is what happens, it asks you the question would you throw them to the wolves for a piece of mind? or you will take the risk and keep them there?

But who actually gives a shit? idk only a retard plays a game like BG3 and thinks about this shit, when you play BG3 you admire the gameplay, the encounter design, the level design, the exploration and the interactive systems, you admire the reactivity that can happen and you start to test the limits, the game is experimental and because of that factor and its fantastic gameplay its fun to play it multiple times, it takes a long time for BG3 to become dull, they always throw new stuff at you, it doesnt matter where you are, you are always prone to new and fresh content and because of the game's nature you will guranteed 100% find new things in a 2nd run.
This is why you play BG3, this is why its unique compared to the hunderds of cheap generic Crpgs with bad gameplay and game design where all you do is larp and pick dialogue choices that barely matter anyway, oh and download patches and bug fixes along the way, yeah haha, the biggest own is that none of the other Crpgs are based anyway, so you are still cucked. fuck you crpg cuck weee

Are the first 5 levels the hardest part of this game, like once you get a build online it snowballs until you're an unstoppable demi god

>>738495962
You're literally not? You can literally let the niglet get killed by the snake, then let the camp get raided by the goblins and if you wish so you can even kill the goblins after they're done raiding the druid grove. You can also kill refugees in the second act by siding with the cultists. The only thing railroading you into siding with them is you being a niggerlover.

>>738497887
not bad but also just saw there's another mod with 7 different voice styles, damn mods have come a long way since i played.

>>738498198
yes. they actually reduced max level to 12 and you're still comically powerful.

>>738497891
I don't know of any government in history that has not sent a child to death sometime in their history.

>>738495962
I killed everyone in the glade, then I killed all the goblins

>>738498240
I'm trying to get my Vengeance Paladin online and its taking forever

>>738495251
Yeah that was pretty ham fisted. That said, it was kind of good that they showed the refugees being utterly ungrateful shits after they're let in. That at least was realistic.

>>738498198
the early game is really only hard because stuff has more turns than you do or you're just unaware of how many zillions of ways you can break the game and rig dice rolls having not played it yet. once you have played it once you can just utterly take the game apart on subsequent playthroughs.

>>738498198
this is just dnd tbf

>>738495251
chuds love child murder checks out

>>738498198
There are some endgame fights that are only really hard due to the amount of enemies (like sharran temple) but yeah the game gets easier and the final act is a pushover for the most part. Myrkul apostle is the only really hard fight.

>>738495646
This is the most disingenuous cope ever.
>Hurr you can just chose not to engage with the plot
>Agenda doesn't matter you can just heckin based kill every one anyway.
>Never mind you can't side with the druids and purge the grove. You get to side with le heckin safe horny dommy mommy manface drowbitch to kill every one like an evil chuddie.

Lets not actually sincerely engage with the idea of why a homogenous grove of druids don't want a pack of thieving rapefugees squatting in their sacred land stealing their shit. Let's not give the player the option to kick out the sob-squatters because it's the right thing to do, you can still do it but it's because you're a heckin evil karma thug who has to get paid and undercut some other thugs while you're at it. Did you get it? Did you get the message? You took money to boot out the poor innocent squatters who dindu nuffin, that makes you the same as the guild thugs, literally. Fascist.

Larian is a cuck studio

>>738498198
Early game has some hard fights, but the hardest fights are scattered across the whole game.

Early game tough fights: Spider, Gnolls and Goblin camp
Mid game tough fights: Myrkul, Admantine Forge, Githyanki patrol
Late game tough fights: Ansur, Raphael, and some situational fights like Sarevok or Cazador depending on how you face them.

I'd say its pretty well balanced experience, especially for a RPG like this. Like its curve is more balanced than Divinity, in Divinity the curve is hard early, easy midgame and late game there is a huge spike but that spike is instantly gone with a single item. This is way more balanced.

Typically its easier at the end because you have many tools, but some encounters still pose a threat if you play on higher difficulties, if you are doing a honor mode run you can lose your run in the 3rd act, some fights are geniunely risky.

>>738498295
please provide an example of a court of law, in the civilized world, condemning a young child to death.
If you pull out anything pre-1800s I'll laugh in your face.

>>738498890
You can side with the druids by letting them complete the ritual, they don't need your help

>>738498913
BG3 honor difficulty design is how CRPGs should aim for moving forward, it doesn't just inflate numbers, it actually adds mechanics, i liked the new legendary actions for bosses and limitations on some mechanics. More devs should think like this.

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>>738495251
You can just side with her you fucking retard. Or kill everyone in the camp. I swear /v/ straight up does not actually play the games they complain about.

I have no idea what being rightwing has to do with siding with Shadow Druids or The Absolute Cultists

>>738495251
You can literally skip the entire grove questline and leave the druids and tieflings to fend for themselves, or just kill everyone either side yourself. But you would know that if you actually played the game

>>738495251
>punishing her for that is wrong its just her culture
Punishing her is fine, killing her for it is too much

>>738495251
Honestly if a child can steal your holy artifact that's responsible for your safety then you deserve to die.

>>738495251
she should have a been a recruitable companion, together with that bard chick and the goblin thief.

Realtranny games are notoriously preachy

>>738500264
It's really a shame there's no recruitable goblin, just because there's so much goblin shit in the game that would make interesting interactions with a party member that's one.

>>738495251
i "broke my oath" as a vengeance paladin because i didn't want to kill her
that's when i dropped the game

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>murders goblin children immediately after breaking out of jail
>hates kahga because she killed a refugee child

>>738500673
I also broke my oath because of some dumb bullshit like killing someone who was attacking me, the oathbreaking in general is stupid.

>>738498969
>>738496035
>>738496897
>>738498048
>>738498215
>>738499907
>>738499310
>you don't have to side with the refugees, the game just considers you evil for not doing it!
You need to increase that 41% stat pronto so the world can just move on already.

>>738500797
>>738495251
why the fuck is the druid armor just leathers with some leaves on the shoulders
AND A GIANT FUCKING SYMBOL ON THE CHEST
IT LOOKS RETARDED

>>738498198
first time?

>>738498195
Literally the entire game is: be a good guy and side with gays and refugees or be evil and side with terrorists and demon worshipers. Or just kill everyone.

Why can't I be a good guy and NOT side with gays and refugees? Just like real life.

why are people acting like this is in any way comparable to any real life refugees
they are actual refugees, from the literal city next door, which got dragged into literal hell

This is more akin to if Houston got hit with a hurricane and Austin told them to get fucked

>>738500797
Goblins are the batarians of Baldurs Gate, at least tieflings occasionally surprise you.

Any other RPGs where you can undress your companions?

>>738500882
>le bideo game... le judges me?
You're pathetic.

>>738500882
>the game just considers you evil
alignments got taken out of dnd so no it doesn't

>>738498048
I love this purple slut so much

>>738501063
Because that's how the writers want you to see real world "refugees" (20-30 year old single male economic migrants from brown shitholes). The whole point of the message in the game is to make you more amenable to these parasites in real life.

>>738500882
things being moral grey areas is woke though. its to imply morality is relative and theres no right and wrong. which is arguably even more woke and gay than being able to slaughter refugees just because you want to lol

>>738501446
I have over 1000 hours in the game and still hate actual refugees also one of the only humans in the camp calls them Hellspawn and is in fact brown himself

>>738501446
your brain is rotted from /pol/

>>738501063
Which would totally be within Austin's right.

Except the refugees were already let in and have already been there awhile. Now their leader who let them in is missing and everyone is sick of each other. None of the natives want the refugees to be there and are threatening to force them out. The refugees don't want to be there either and are plotting to kill the natives. It's rude to force them out, but it's also rude for them to stay. The fact the refugees are considering killing the natives and taking all their shit is not only proof they should've never have been let in to begin with, it's also proof that they're not actually that threatened by the goblins. And of course the refugees are portrayed as good guys up throughout the entire game, even if they kill the druids, while Kagha is being manipulated by shadow druids. That's Larian saying there's nothing wrong with abusing someone's hospitality and killing them and taking all their things if it's the easy way out for you, and anyone who wouldn't let these savages mooch off them must have been brainwashed by an evil death cult.

Your only retort is, "Just turn your brain off, dude." No, I'd rather to turn the game off.

dark urge as dual wielding gloomstalker ranger is too fun

>>738495962
were you homeschooled?

>>738500797
would you be up in arms if someone killed a rat or any other vermin?
Goblins are evil little shits.

>>738501141
>>738501347
Why are you being obtuse? Did you get paid to shill the game? You don't need alignments to tell who's good and evil, you fucking nimrod. Take the black dick out of your mouth.

>want to play a sword and board fighter in a crpg
>heavy armor is always worse than pajama tanking
>using a shield is always worse than using a two handed weapon
why do jrpgs let me play as a knight more than crpgs do
this shit is completely ass backwards

>>738501548
Notice how you couldn't actually say I'm wrong, you just jumped to insults because you couldn't think of anything else.

>>738501775
Why are you letting optimal meta shit dictate how you play? Just get good.

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>>738495251
>He didn't even get to the part where its literally da jeews
Yikes no attentions span lmao

>>738501853
No nigger, you are wrong, and insulting you is the easiest summation of why.

>>738501548
He's absolutely right, though. Act 1 is all about muh refugees, Act 2 is saving a dyke from her girlfriend's chud father and Act 3 opens up with - once again - refugees squatting in a dude's house and of course the refugees are just poor, helpless, little babies and the guy who wants his house back is bombing fucking children. I mean, of course he is! He hates refugees, of course he's evil. :^)

>>738501764
Again, you're throwing a temper tantrum because a video game called you a meanie head.

Discussions for every game on 4chan,Reddit, and Twitter for some reason revolves around anons either talking about the color of someones dick or personally feeling attacked because a video game character did something they don't personally agree with irl

Sex with bears

>>738498969
>You can technically side with the druids by doing nothing and letting the failure state flags trigger
>No one acknowledges this as a rational decision based on personal choice
great story tranny

>>738501925
No one can separate fiction from reality anymore.

>>738501875
See, you still said nothing that proved me wrong, you just lashed out in anger because you don't have the brain capacity for anything else.

>>738501853
Stop viewing everything through a lense of politics
no better than a sjw

>>738501867
why are you letting woke devs rewrite european history

>>738501878
The game doesn't even say Kagha is evil though

>>738501764
You're a spineless cuck lmao, why do you care if the game says you're good or evil, it's not like an evil bg3 run has you getting comeuppance or something

>>738501878
i just killed the squatters without hesitation and i never heard any of that shit you're talking about with the guy being evil lmao
as for act 1 and 2 i honestly have no idea because i didnt pay much attention. i didnt think act 1 was all about the refugees, that shit was very early on and i played for dozens of hours after that before getting to act 2 and i vague remember a bunch of other dialog and plot stuff so im pretty sure saying act 1 is about refugees is wildly inaccurate

>>738501961
Many people in the video games industry absolutely do view everything through a lense of politics and they don't even try to hide this fact, they're proud of it because they believe they're good people who are helping to create a better world through their art.

>>738501614
The Tieflings are not planning to kill the druids
they're also not just profiting entirely off of hospitality, they're actively providing service to the druids in the form of additional security, they literally die in protection of the druid grove

the only way to trigger the fight between the druids and the tieflings is by manipulating the druids into attacking the tieflings, there is no situation in which the tieflings intentionally try to kill the druids to take over

also if you deny giving help to a neighboring city you may in fact be a sociopath

>>738501853
No one is going to engage with you on a discussion because it's not worth it. Go ahead and get outraged at videogames because of politics, try and make it everyone else's business, and see how that works out.

>>738501878
in act 3 the "refugees" are the farmers from the surrounding countryside which feed the city fleeing to the city to escape the imminent threat of an army

It is legally, practically and morally wrong to deny the farmers that feed your city the protection of your city
They're also not going to stay as refugees, everyone either wants to go back to their farms asap or else wants to actively get a job

>>738502107
If you seriously cannot see the overt political messaging in a game like Baldur's Gate 3 you're clearly a "turn your brain off" kind of person when it comes to video game stories. I'm not the one making it about politics, the developers did that, I'm just picking up on their overt messaging. Once again, this isn't some conspiracy this is literally how they intend you to interpret their stories, they just assume that you'll agree with their message rather than finding it manipulative like I do. Go on twitter or reddit and ask them if they think BG3 is political, they'll overwhelmingly tell you "yes, and that's a good thing"

>>738498956
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_juveniles_in_the_United_States

>>738502268
he said civilized world

>>738502302
Oh right, "civilized" by your metric would be South Sudan. https://web.archive.org/web/20221006034613/https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/07/africa/south-sudan-executions-amnesty-scli-intl

Starting to feel like anons would call OG Star Wars woke tranny shit because a resistance exists

>>738502268
Youngest on here is a 14 year old black kid
Kid in the game is like 8

>>738502372
I said civilized world, but thanks for confirming the US south and South Sudan are equal levels of moral and social development

>>738502268
Why is there a column for ethnicity?

>>738495251
My """evil""" playthrough was the best and most righteous way to play this game, it improves 10x by removing all the annoying pieces of shit.

>>738497004
same for me, also with wyll
apparently that was fixed though

>>738501936
now wait a minute
i have 200 hours in bg3 but can you actually enter sex scenes while morphed into any of the animals with that one druid type spell, or was that just one specific scripted event i never happened to see or hear anything about ever since everyone laughed about it in the ad

>>738495251
I killed everybody just to see if it was actually possible. I was quite surprised when the shopkeeper actually used his whole inventory to fight, he was way harder than the actual druids were.

>>738502380
It's not, though. They're trying to return to the status quo i.e. The Republic.

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>>738501971
you are unhinged, Paladin is top tier automatically in any dnd version

>>738503746
the overall theme is empire are nazis and empire bad therefore nazis bad

>>738496662
This is literally what most first world countries are doing.

>>738501464
/v/ doesn't even know what woke is yet complains about it non-stop

>>738495251
>Originally well intended character looking out for her tribe gets manipulated by strictly evil outside forces using immigrants as a scapegoat to get what they really want
Why does this sound familiar...

>>738504141
does anyone?
to us it means anti white, to a bunch of other faggots its some elusive meaning that doesnt commit them to being bigoted

>>738497378
>>738497809
God, you guys are so insecure.

>>738495646
/v/ doesn't play games remember dumb fuck. Read the fucking sticky, rule number 1 is to not actually take part in the activity related to the board you're on.

>>738495646
You're a faggot. A faggot that has aids.

>>738496840
She's at my side alright

>>738500939
>druids wearing metal armor
we get it bro, you don't know shit about D&D

>>738501971
>why are you letting woke devs rewrite european history
Nigga, by the time they developed full plate, knights ditched the shield and used polearms.

>>738503967
>Paladin is top tier automatically in any dnd version
lol no. Wizards, Druids, and Clerics stomp on pallys.

>>738495251
Kaga later gets murdered at the victory party and if you avenge her murder as an "Oath of Vengeance " paladin you... become oathbroken. This is what leftism is, they will excuse literal assassins of people they don't like.

>>738495251
The difference with BG3, is I can kill this cunt right then and there. NO non humans allowed in the grove.

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>>738505115
Wizards are the strongest class late game, but Paladins are not weak at alll, also the concept of wizards and druids is as european as it gets, it comes from european pagan myths.

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>>738505267
killing children is based and redpilled amirite?

>>738505134
anon there's a very good reason for it.
>Kagha killed the tiefling child
>her parent takes vengeance for her slain child
>you, the Oath of Vengeance paladin, try to stop them from taking their just revenge
of course this breaks your Oath.

>>738505134
>people they don't like
Ok, this happens if annabelle dies
It's not that her parents "don't like Khaga", it's that she fucking killed their kid

Not saying you should lose the oath, but come on

>>738496332
>the tieflings will almost certainly die if they leave the grove
>Kagha still insists that they leave
>small child thinks that by stealing the idol it will stop her entire family and everyone she knows from being killed

Sounds kinda reasonable. And even if it was fucked up to try to steal their sacred idol, it’s a little kid and Kagha is going to kill her.

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>>738503967
>you are unhinged, Paladin is top tier automatically in any dnd version
Which versions have you been playing?

>ADnD
Paladins largely medicore, can't fulfill any role that wouldn't be better served by a specialist. Wizards, Clerics and Druids rule setting.
>3.0 and 3.5
Martials are so bad they're basically just Roleplay characters. Wizards can do everything a martial can do and a LOT more. All the other various spellcasters are as good or better.
>4.0
Did not play
>5.0
Martials are better than in 3.5 but still larely Roleplay characters. Once again, anything you want to do the Wizard, Cleric, Druid, Sorcerer or Warlock can do better.

>BG1
Wizards are the best. Paladins are mid tier.
>BG2
Wizards are the best. Paladins are low tier.
>Temple of Elemental Evil
Wizards are the best. Paladins are low tier.
>IWD
Wizards are the best. Paladins are low tier.
>IWD2
>Wizards are the best. Paladins are low tier.
>PS:T
Wizards are the best. Paladins don't exist, but Warrior is mid tier.
>NWN
Wizards are the best. Paladins are low tier.
>NWN2
Wizards are the best.

I can't think of any other DnD games, but I'm sure the logic follows.

>>738505267
>>738496867
Real world parallels don’t really work when there are demonic monsters 20 meters away who want to rape these people to death.
Most “refugees” in the real world just want to make more money in a less shitty country. That kid would be raped to death by goblins within minutes if the tieflings leave the grove.

>>738505678
Then why's she breaking the fucking laws? And why is the defense of her "You can't punish her, she's crying :("

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>>738505667
you are trolliong, an inquisitor clears BG1+2 easily

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>goblins? Annoying tieflings?
>better do the evil thorn ritual and seal myself in this little backyard area forever

The problem with BG3 is that every evil person is comically retarded.

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>>738495251
>>738496332
The pendulum really has swung such that these low IQ social warrior retards are just rightwing now. Very embarrassing.
Anyway the only reason that they want to kick the tieflings out is because Khaga is part of a Diddystein cult that wishes to invoke the right of thorns which is categorically bad and destroys the grove. Otherwise no stakes are given as to why the teiflings can't be there. It is the must cut and dry case of right vs wrong, there's no nuance, which you can be valid in complaining about. What you can't do however is autistically try to insert modern politics and nuance into it.

>>738505667
>Martials are better than in 3.5
Warblade says lol

>NWN2
>Wizards are best
What exactly are you smoking, wizards in that game get exactly none of the spells that make wizards broken in 3.5, martials are buffed immensely by some broken prestige classes

>>738505751
>make every villain 2D
>it still goes over politicalslop poisoned modern audience brains

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>>738505750
>My extra casting of True Sight and Dispel Magic totally makes up for bringing absolutely fuck all else to the party
Inquisitors could have value if BG2 implemented the 18INT rule, but it doesn't. Which means every single caster absolutely mops the floor with them and you've got so many spell slots available they add nothing.

If you wanna make a martial work in BG1 or 2 at least have the dignity to play an Assassin and/or Trap Spec Rogue.

>>738505751
Evil is dumb.

>>738505720
>no no no you shouldn't break the law for any reason!
Absolute bootlicker kek

>>738505720
NIGGER SHE WANTS TO KILL HER

>>738505903
dispel magic at double the level. then the enemy wizard is just a squishy target that gets interrupted and dies in 2 hits

>>738505751
>>738505913
The hag was kind of smart

>>738495251
Don't forget Goblin genocide is le okay even though they are sentient beings surviving like every other race.

>>738501775
Sadly, there are a lot of really good two handed weapons in BG3. I prefer sword and board myself. But the benefit of an extra 2-3 AC is really nice, even if you lose out on a bit of damage. Eldritch knights and paladins are both very strong. The knife of the undermountain king is a good weapon, and the blood of lathander is a good mace. In the lategame, crimson mischief is fucking amazing and there’s a great shield you get from beating the Shar worshippers.
The best heavy armor also gives you free resistance to physical damage and bonuses to saving throws. It’s crazy good.
I personally made a warlock/oathbreaker paladin who wore heavy armor and I was really happy with the results.

>>738505720
so you're the sort of sociopath who'd shoot a child for breaking one of your windows?

>>738497345
It's more about Larian realizing a detailed prewritten backstory for the player character in a D&D video game is a terrible idea. The durge is literally just another companion and their bullshit is enough.

>>738506046
sword and board probably would be a lot more fun if you could you know, actually do things people are depicted as doing with a shield in fantasy art

let us block a dragon's breath, let us deflect a wizard's spell, let us actively bait an enemy into striking the shield to counter hit him

even in editions where you can do that it's usually locked behind a 10 feat long chain half of which are worthless

>>738505720
She’s breaking the law because A. She’s a small child and B. Kagha is trying to send everyone she knows out to die horribly.
The defense of her is that A. She’s a small child and B. Kagha’s actions are indefensible when danger is that close.
Trespassing is a crime, but trespassing to escape a gang of rapist niggers is not.

>>738506176
Then why don't the tieflings control their urchins? Let me guess, it was socioeconomic factors that led to a band of thieving children to form and harass everyone giving them shelter. Ever hear of not biting the hand that feeds you?

>>738506265
You are a caricature

>>738506265
she's 10 years old, you can't control every single action of a 10 year old, you can be the best parent in the world and you still can't prevent them from doing something stupid

and for this reason every sane person on the planet acknowledges that kids will do dumb things and since they're still kids, that dumb thing and the resulting punishment for it are a learning opportunity

it's only someone who completely fails at humanity who'd treat a 10 year old as he would an adult, all of your ancestors knew that, it's why they, unlike you, managed to successfully reproduce

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>>738506265
You simply can’t make real world parallels. It’s just dumb to try.
The tieflings’ entire city was sucked into literal hell and they only recently got out.
No hand is feeding them. Kagha is absolutely intent on throwing them to the wolves. The ritual is going on before you even arrive. She is actively causing them all to die, so yeah, the kid does what she can to try to avoid it.

>>738506265
The tiefling can be retards, and Kagha should not sentence a literal child to death
These two statements are not contraddictory, both can be true

>>738506386
How did a literal child learn to set up a giant thieving operation involving every other child without seeing it before from the tieflings around her? They pickpocket, they scam, but hey, it's just kids being kids, right?
>>738506427
Tell me how stealing money from the people who harbor them is helping them survive?

>>738505308
>>738505315
there is no proof that Kagha ordered the snake to attack

>>738506427
not to mention that druids cutting themselves off from the world is antithetical to their function
they're not just plantmancers that turn into bears occasionally, their entire task is to be the spiritual and religious bridge between nature and society
they're meant to be active participants in their surroundings, keep them safe through application of both force and diplomacy

there's a good reason she actively had to lie and deceive the circle because what she was doing was going against all druidic teachings

>>738495962
There isn’t a lot of nuance or moral ambiguity to it. There are good options and evil ones, but you can still choose the evil ones. It’s pretty fun.
My biggest complaint is that you miss out on so many rewards and plot lines if you go fully evil, and there isn’t much to replace it. It’s cool to have consequences, and obviously having the same exact merchant BUT EVIL would be lame. But they definitely could’ve invested more time into the evil paths.
Still cool that you can do them at all.

>>738506559
Why are you trying so hard to justify child murder?

>>738506484
Then what is the correct punishment? Banishment? You'd call that sentencing them to death too. So what is the correct punishment for bringing a bunch of crime to your sacred grove?

>>738506559
>How did a literal child learn to set up a giant thieving operation involving every other child without seeing it before from the tieflings around her?
Not the same child you moron, the one who Khaga wants to kill wasn't some mastermind, she's a 10 year old who tried doing something stupid and immediately got caught for it which is why Khaga is even in the position to do anything about it

The one who does set up this whole organization is an orphan, she's deprived off of parental oversight and as a result is turning out wrong

>>738506427
wut lol? you can easily make a comparison between tieflings sucked into hell and escaping vs. black people sucked into hellish africa and escaping to the US only to start thieving and attacking people 24/7

>>738495251
TIEFLINGS are not all THIEFS you BIGOT CHUD
why yes, every one you meet is a literal thief or some other type of outlaw but that's besides the point!!!

>>738506651
I never said it was the same child, dipshit. I still can't deny the fact crime increased by 1,000% when they allowed the tieflings to enter their grove. What is the fucking punishment for that? You're just stuck with them because telling them to kick rocks is too mean? That's just your life now? A crime ridden shithole?

>>738506559
Technically speaking, it helps them to survive because they have more money and resources.
But I’m not defending anything Mol does. She’s an evil character. She wants to sell her soul and join a guild of thieves.
But we weren’t talking about Mol, we were talking about Arabella, who has just cause to steal the idol if it means the survival of her people.

>>738506669
but the tieflings don't start thieving and attacking people
the literal first thing you see them do is put their lives at stake protecting the home of the people giving them shelter with one of them dying in the process

the Tieflings that actually get into Baldur's Gate all get jobs

>>738506620
I think they’re fairly well offset. The only one that shouldn’t be locked to the tieflings is the Potent Robe. It’s too vital to most warlock builds and Durge are almost auto locked out of acquiring it unless you do silly preparations for a scripted event or mod the robe in some other way. Evil play throughs get the Bhaalist armor and Shar’s Spear of Evening, which are both laughably broken.

>>738506645
not killing a child, that's for certain

>>738506731
Khaga is committing more crime than all tieflings combined by deceiving the circle into following Shadow Druid teachings which in fact is one of the worst possible crimes you can commit in a druidic grove
it's not just legally wrong, it's morally wrong and most importantly it's spiritually wrong

>>738505678
>Most “refugees” in the real world just want to make more money in a less shitty country

So you are proving that these are not real refugees, they are economic migrants. Get them out, get rid of them all

>>738506645
Literally anything is better
Keep her a day and a night in a cell, then send her off with a slap on the back
>muh sacred idol
If a child goes into a monastery and steals something sacred, do you think the priests will impale the child's head on a spike or something?
They got their idol back, they just need to slap her so she doesn't do it again, there's no need to kill her as revenge for harm that wasn't done

>>738506749
Does it say anywhere that the one that stole the relic wasn't part of mol's gang or wasn't acting on the orders of it? Tell me how you'd punish the group of child thieves. You can't because you believe they should just accept their culture is shit now.

>>738506731
What an absolute non argument
Killing a child and sending the tieflings out are two completely different things, retard. Completely moving the goalpost

>>738506824
knowing the monks near me what they'd likely do is talk to their parents and have the kid help them out with chores as punishment
not to be cruel but to give consequences for their actions in a productive, christian, way

>>738506669
>sucked into hellish Africa
Anon, what are you smoking?
You can say there are poor conditions and evil people, but it really can’t compare to a realm of fire and brimstone and demons that just want to rape and torture you. It’s just not the same.
And real world refugees don’t face the same immediate risk of unspeakable violence.

>>738506810
>>738506824
They have a right to tell them to leave and get fucked but you refuse to acknowledge that. Why are they just stuck with a bunch of thieving criminals? If they wanted to be saved so badly, they should've acted right.

>>738506816
they don't have a home to go back to, why do you think they left Elturel for?

>>738506828
>Tell me how you'd punish the group of child thieves
10 lashes to each of them
Closer monitoring from the parents required
>You can't because you believe they should just accept their culture
Please link the post where ANYONE in this thread has made this argument. Failure to do so will be considered a concession that you are fucking retarded.

>>738506824
she was going to get a prison sentence which is perfectly reasonable and only until her parents leave with her. But then she struggles and runs away and triggers the snake's instinct to attack. This is not Kagha's fault, this is the child's fault. Snakes are still wild animals, don't make sudden movements.

>>738506672
Zevlor isn’t. But the rest of them treat him like shit, so maybe you have a point.

>>738506886
No they aren't. You fags are arguing that if you send them out they will die so you can't do that because it's too mean. So what is the solution to an unwanted guest stealing shit from the people who saved them?

>>738506929
they're stuck with a bunch of 'criminals' because the goblins will gut them too

>>738506929
>They have a right to tell them to leave
Of course they do. ... and? This has NOTHING to do with having a snake kill Arabella

>>738506942
I didn't say anything about a home. I said that they should leave, clearly they don't deserve to be fed and protected by druids who love even rats but a feral thieving scumbag tiefling with demonic blood inside them is too much - fully understandable if you ask me.

>>738506946
>>738505454
There, you fucking fag.

>>738506949
>But then she struggles and runs away
>This is not Kagha's fault, this is the child's fault
>Snakes are still wild animal
Who set the snake upon the 10 year old child anon? Who did that?
As you say, they are dangerous wild animals. Would you throw a kid in the bear pit? I wouldn't, because unlike you and Kagha I'm not fucking retarded

>>738506949
The snake is a druid's animal companion, not a wild animal, if it attacks anyone it's because the druid wants it to attack them

or are you suggesting Khaga is so utterly and completely incompetent that she's unable to have a level of control over her animal companion that a basic NOVICE would have? because in that case she should be immediately removed from her function and an actual competent druid should be in charge of Arabelle's fate

>>738506981
Zevlor winks and nudges at the player to go murder druids for him so he can hang around the Grove for a few more days. He's an asshole too.

>>738507036
Interesting, the post you linked doesn't say anything about accepting any culture, it is instead explaining why a child would do that. The post even acknowledges the child was wrong!

It would seem that you are conceding to being a fucking retard, retard

>>738506816
Absolutely.
The grove situation is clearly a case where kicking them out is undeniably evil. Most “refugees” in the real world are more like parasites. I don’t begrudge their desire for a better life, but they can’t begrudge my desire to protect the well being of my country.
If there were demons right outside my country waiting to eat their souls, that would be another story.

>>738506828
She has parents, and Mol’s gang seems to all be orphans. Kind of explains their behavior without excusing it.
All the other tieflings seem to be written as fine, upstanding people.
Maybe throw them in that little jail cell for a few days.
But sending all the tieflings to their deaths because a small gang of orphans is committing petty crimes seems unreasonable. And Arabella only stole the idol after the ritual to force them out had already begun.

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>>738495251
>gaydur's gay 3: redditor critical role edition
ew

>>738507036
retard-kun has poor reading comprehension lol

>>738506672
the majority of the tieflings are willing to literally lay down their lives in defense of the grove

>>738507006
Is there an actual path where the snake bites her and kills her? Is that something you can make happen in the game?

>>738495251
why does every bg3 female looks like gigachad?

>>738497378
He still has a penis

>>738507091
Kagha didn't give the snake any command, Kagha even warned the tiefling demon child to "be still, Teela is restless". In fact if you as a druid pick the right dialogue option with the snake then the snake will simply let the child go. Why would it do that if it was given a "command"?

>>738507154
Yes
There is more than one way to get Arabella to die in that scene, intentionally or unintentionally with a failed roll.

>>738507134
It's a post saying that if they get kicked out they all die and justifies her theft by that fact. Are you illiterate?

>>738507102
I too think he crosses the line there, but as a Paladin he is oath bound to secure their safety above all else, which in Forgotten Realms lore goes way beyond a pact as we know it.

>>738507027
you called them migrants retard. Do you even know what you are arguing or is your mind in full /pol/tard mode?

>>738507182
>Pick a literal toddler
>Put him in the middle of a minefield
>"Don't move, toddler who doesn't even know how to write!"
>The toddler, being a toddler, gets scared and moves
>His entrails flie accross the field

>Another day of me, anon, being a morally grey civilian not responsible for the child's death. I may have put him there, but he chose to move!

>>738507154
if you say "ok its fine to imprison her because shes a criminal but only hold her for as long as you have to" the snake kills her

>>738507136
So they should banish just the orphans then? Why should grove resources be used to punish people that shouldn't even be there in the first place?

>>738507198
The post is arguing the child's logic for stealing the idol. It is not arguing the strawman you fabricated.
Retard

>>738507095
>The snake is a druid's animal companion, not a wild animal, if it attacks anyone it's because the druid wants it to attack them

total lie, the snake is still a wild animal with the matching instincts of a wild animal and while it's also able to talk and reason and have its own will... it's not a skeleton raised by a necromancer that attacks on orders. It can agree and disagree and has its own will and its own instincts. This is proven already by the dialogue options where you can convince the snake to chill out a little. I understand that this is all hard for you because these bastard writers tried very hard to convince you that Kagha is evil but she's not.

>>738507198
Because it does justify her theft.
But that’s an extraordinary circumstance brought about solely by Kagha’s unreasonable actions. It doesn’t mean that anyone is conflating thievery with tiefling culture or excusing thievery under ordinary circumstances.

>>738500882
You are literally Indian

>>738495251
She was feeding a little kid to a snake anon

>>738507198
Are you schizophrenic? Explaining why Arabella, a child, did something, is not the same as saying anyone should "accept tiefling culture". That's all you, nobody said that.
Literally nobody but you, as proved by you linking a post that doesn't say that.

>>738507182
the fact you can give it a command not to attack the child means that Khaga could have given that command and actively chooses not to

but please do tell me, if some gentleman of darker skin found a white girl, put his feral pitbull near her, took of it's leash and and then told her "you better be quiet or mah nigga here will eat yer face off"
would this gentleman be innocent of she jumped at him making a sudden movement and got her face bitten off?

>>738507195
>>738507312
Based
>>738507331
Yeah, I'm sure mol wouldn't have created the thieving gang if it wasn't for mean old kagha. Give me a break.

>>738500797
I always make sure to murder the gobbo children every playthrough.
My favorite was one of em trying to run past us, so I had Karlach pick the lil basterd up and toss him back to Halsin so he could maul the thing.
I love this game.

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>anon didn't let the kid die
>anon didn't get to watch the parents pull a knife on this bitch and stab her at the celebration

>>738507362
Their culture is thievery as expressed by every single other child they brought with them. How do you have a culture of thieving in children if they didn't learn it from somewhere?

>>738507328
all that dialog means is that the snake is well trained enough it is capable of understanding and listening to reason from a complete stranger
aka, Khaga could have at any point given it the order to not attack the child and it would have obeyed

so is this game a meme or what because every larian game has a great act one then immediately turns to dogshit

>>738504970
Druids are allowed to wear metal armor, both mechanically and narratively. Retarded faggots like (You) just pretend otherwise.

>>738507136
soul eating demons weren't waiting right outside, it was just goblins. They had no cause to act like they did.

>>738507309
Banishing just the orphans would at least be more reasonable than banishing everyone. Except, again, they are just children committing petty crimes. Death hardly seems a fitting punishment.

You could kick them out, but it would be immoral to do so when they’re in such obvious danger.

>>738507486
Proficiencies

Armor: Light armor, medium armor, shields (druids will not wear armor or use shields made of metal)

from the official page you retard

>>738507453
I dont know how much clearer I can make this, let me give you an analogy even though analogies never convince anybody but here it goes: Imagine if some thieving child stole your holiest relic of your God that you DESPERATELY NEED FOR YOUR OWN SURVIVAL. You are extremely angry at this child that just almost murdered you and your whole family and your whole church. Then when you catch the thief, it squirms and makes excuses and acts defiant. You even warn the child that the dog you have with you is dangerous and to be still but it wont listen because it's such a piece of shit child. Then on top of everything it even tries to run away so the dog ends up biting her because it's a dog and it's on a hair trigger too and senses the tension and anger in the air. Take a step back now: How on EARTH do you manufacture "Kagha is evil" out of all this?

>>738507394
I didn’t even remotely imply that.
At what point does this become boring for you?

>>738507470
I think act 2 suffers from the shadow curse stuff. Just makes exploring a drag. If you bring bear fucker along his sidequest blows too.

>>738507502
So no one itt is saying to accept their thieving, huh? Sure sounds like it to me. If you are offered shelter and start stealing from the people who saved you, banishment is the only logical punishment besides death.

>>738507559
i'll take that as a yes and continue to not be tempted

>>738507494
>it was just goblins
The goblins, by simply knowing the location of the grove, have enough force to slaughter BOTH druids and and tieflings fighting side by side, in a SIEGE.
They might as well have had the hordes of chaos outside, given the situation.

The tieflings aren't there to permanently live in the grove, they are there only in an emergency situation, they WANT to leave, but it's simply not feasable as is.

>>738507552
You said arabelles theft was only brought about because of an extraordinary circumstance yet all the other children are shown to be thieves too. What brought about their thievery then? The desire for money and love of scamming random passersby?

>>738507271
it's an animal companion that is always with her friend, not a minefield. They chose to stay with druids who have bears and all kinds of animals sitting around in the open. If they cannot understand that they need to be careful then that's up to them.

>>738507447
They did spend some time in literal hell. Might’ve learned a thing or two there.
But orphans don’t have to ‘learn’ to steal. If you’re truly pushed to the brink, you’ll take what you need to in order to survive. It doesn’t happen often in our society, but this is a different universe.

>>738507494
Yeah, it was just an army of vicious, bloodthirsty monsters being controlled by an eldritch horror from beyond, beyond controlled by the proxies of three evil, demonic gods. Totally unreasonable.

>>738507494
You're right, they just escaped soul eating demons and are now being sieged by a horde of organized goblins

>>738507561
>banishment is the only logical punishment besides death
Again, lashes exist, jails exist
There is a MYRIAD of options that don't involve killing children. You just really want to killing children because you have psychopathic tendencies (if this was not the case you would have considered the above options as logical for petty theft)

>>738507548
I get it, you're either a retard or a troll and I'll stop interacting with you
go ahead and pretend you've won, everyone else can clearly see the truth

>>738507671
Do they also learn to set up fake shops in order to scam people from the devil or was that closer to home?

>>738507619
sounds like the tieflings have even more reason to be on their best behavior. Somehow you walk away witht he opposite opinion and believe that they should be allowed to steal from the people who saved their lives. Weird

>>738507645
In Arabellas care she was motivated by wanting to leave the Grove, not by greed. Mol should have her hands cut off tho

>>738507683
Having people that you just saved turn your refuge into a crime-ridden shithole is such a slap in the face. Why waste your time and effort punishing them when you can just tell them to fuck off. Oh yeah, the other tieflings who say they'll kill the druids if they send them away. Great culture they've got. Needs to be respected.

>>738507663
>it's an animal companion that is always with her friend, not a minefield
And yet, the snake will kill arabella regardless of Kagha's commands. So yes, basically a minefield
>They chose to stay with druids
They didn't, they were headed to baldur's gate, they want to leave, you even find a tiefling scout outside. They have literally been forced there by goblins.
> If they cannot understand
It's a TODDLER. It's not some dumbas 40 year old who should have known better, it's a literal child

>>738507561
>the only possible punishments for crime are death or banishment
That’s awfully silly, anon.

>>738507548
But that analogy falls flat, anon. It’s not remotely the same.

>>738507645
Arabella’s theft, yes.
Nobody ever said Mol’s thievery is justified. In fact, I said she’s an evil character. But a small group of orphans committing petty crimes doesn’t justify killing all the tieflings, and you know it.

>>738507676
All of these threats also apply to the druids. When you are under siege the laws are always far stricter and traitors who would open the gates to the enemy obviously get a very harsh penalty including death. It was extremely nice of the druids to even entertain letting these people stay for one more second and merely imprisoning the child.

>>738507719
>sounds like the tieflings have even more reason to be on their best behavior
They do, what Arabella did was reckless and endangerad everyone
>Somehow you walk away witht he opposite opinion and believe that they should be allowed to steal
Writing fanfiction again?
They shouldn't. Arabella should be disciplined. I don't see how this has ANYTHING to do with killing her.

>>738507745
She should but the entire grove goes apeshit if you merely throw her down a hill. Why? If they cared so much about her, why not stop her from stealing from everyone?

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>>738507759
>he's STILL arguing against the strawman

>>738507759
>Why waste your time and effort punishing them when you can just tell them to fuck off
Ok, then why are you defending Kagha enjoying her time terrorizing Arabella with a snake then
Already walking back and moving goalposts? So you DO AGREE with all of us that Kagha was wrong to kill Arabella then?

>>738507794
Why not? They should control their hellspawn. If they can't control their fucking kids then send them all out on their asses. Fuck em.

>>738507702
Sounds like something the devil would do, yeah.
Raphael shows up a little later to scam the little girl out of her soul. I could see him teaching her a thing or two while he’s at it.
The fact of the matter is that all the other tieflings are portrayed as generally decent people. A small group of orphans doing wrong doesn’t justify banishing them, if banishing them means certain death.

>>738507827
>why not stop her from stealing
Because they didn't know? What kind of dumb question is this? I'm happy you have a time travel machine anon, but us normal mortals do not, so if a toddler does something stupid we could have maybe prevented with previous knowledge we did not have, we can't fix it retroactively.

>>738507856
How is it a strawman? You're saying sending them out is a death sentence so they aren't allowed to do that. So they just have to put up with a gang of thieves turning their home into a shithole?

>>738495251
I didn't play this game yet but your synopsis is giving me flashbacks to the case in nu-Sherlock Chapter One where you have to investigate and decide whether or not to cover up a crime committed by refugees because they might have to go back home if they are the culprit. You are clearly pushed towards this option to atone for the racism of Great Britain, but at least the game is based enough to let you not give a fuck and find them guilty anyway.

>>738507763
it's literally like a pitbull, I suggest not making sudden movies but the retarded tiefling child that almost caused a genocide of druids got the darwin award instead. It's not a toddler. Stop lying. Stop it. She is 7-9 years old, toddlers are 1-3 years old. You know you are lying but you dont care.

>They didn't, they were headed to baldur's gate, they want to leave, you even find a tiefling scout outside. They have literally been forced there by goblins.

nobody forces them to be there, they wanted it because it's the best location to be in. Stop word gaming.

>>738507873
She didn't kill her in my playthrough.
>>738507913
All of them except every single child and the ones suggesting they murder all the druids if they tell them to leave. Yeah, great people.

>>738507942
>You're saying sending them out is a death sentence so they aren't allowed to do that.
Anon you are fighting phantoms even now

I hate the shitty oppressed misunderstood snowflake tieflings of modern D&D so much its unreal.

>>738507975
anyone who puts an untrained pitbull near a child for any reason is a murderer

>>738507975
>it's literally like a pitbull
Interesting, so you are in favor of disciplining 9 year olds by putting them in front of pitbulls who will maul them to death if they move
Do tell us more about it

>>738507975
>nobody forces them to be there
lol
lmao

>>738495251
It was a really bizarre decision to milk that refugee shit all the way up to the act 3. Then again, the whole game was just a series of bizarre decisions, from every second NPC being an angry woman to using a randomly-generated Wildermyth campaign as blueprint for your AAA RPG main plot.

>>738507939
How the fuck don't you know they set up a fake stall in order to steal from passersby? It was so fucking obvious the second you step foot in the grove. They knew what the fuck was going on. Mol is so obviously evil.

>>738508012
Are you retarded? There are several posts saying sending them out is a death sentence so the druids aren't allowed to do it. Are you just pretending to be illiterate?

>>738507942
>So they just have to put up with a gang of thieves
No? There are many ways to deal with that without death sentences. For example, as I already said, 10 lashes to any kid who steals from the druids. A harsh punishment, but much more reasonable.

>>738507878
>>738507942
This was fun, anon. But I feel like you’re running out of steam.
Yes, you can send an entire group of people out to certain death at the hands of monstrous forces because of the petty crimes of a few small children, but it isn’t morally justified. It is an evil act, by almost any definition.
I’m gonna call it quits here.

>>738507671
>Yeah, it was just an army of vicious, bloodthirsty monsters being controlled by an eldritch horror from beyond, beyond controlled by the proxies of three evil, demonic gods. Totally unreasonable.

they had no knowledge of that particular threat nor was it a realistic threatto the tieflings, the only ship that arrived crashed and everyone on board was killed in the crash

>>738508112
are we really going to do this dance again?

>>738508115
But they have to accept them in their grove at the risk of their own safety because sending away the ingrates would be too mean? But stealing from your protectors isn't? They must be victimized repeatedly and punish individuals repeatedly instead of just telling them all to get lost?

>>738508065
Again, what the FUCK does this have to do with Arabella sneaking in and trying to steal the idol?
We are killing Arabella because Mol, a completely different person, is scamming adventurers?

I think what we’ve learned itt is that pit bulls are definitively the biggest pieces of shit in reality or fantasy.

>>738508051
no I'm not but that was a special situation because the pitbull was her animal companion and Kagha probably never leaves her side and doesn't even know a concept such as "oh, please snake friend who I love.. just leave the room right now because the superior humans are talking now"

>>738508135
But stealing from the people who saved your lives and gave you shelter isn't evil, right? It's so petty to be the biggest fucking ingrates in the world, isn't it? They are evil so anything bad happening to them is good.

>>738508141
It is the exact danger which threatens the tieflings.
The army of the absolute, which is an army controlled by an elder brain, which is itself controlled by the dead three.

>entire race of people with devil horns
no trial needed, kill em all

>>738508204
why do you continually fail to consider the fact the tieflings are protecting them from the goblin horde?

>>738508115
the plan was to imprison the child until they leave, this is even more reasonable than 10 lashes to a literal child. Nobody gave that child the death penalty and it wasn't even up for debate, it was an unfortunate accident due to the retarded child's behavior around dangerous animal companions.

>>738508225
>Why would you ever assume this thieving child is associated with the band of other thieving children?! Preposterous!
>>738508153
There's no dance. Just you being too fucking retarded to understand stealing from your protectors is deserving of a death sentence.

>>738508349
finally you accept that you really just want to kill kids.

>>738508241
nah pitbulls are just a fucked up dog breed that shouldn't exist
the biggest pieces of shit are people who expose their pitbull to other people or their pets

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>Kagha not being an optional party member if you expose her

MISSED FUCKING POTENTIAL! HOW THE DICK DID LARIAN FAIL TO SEE IT?!

>>738508328
Because they aren't. The druids could defend themselves or do their ritual or whatever whether the tieflings were there or not. They aren't needed.

>>738508328
read through the thread, the point he consistently fails to address is that the tieflings are defending the grove at great personal risk
because acknowledging that would completely undermine his arguments

basically until he addresses that it's safe to ignore anything he says

does wotr have the same issues?

>>738508369
If you turn around and steal from the people that just saved your life, that makes you the biggest piece of shit on planet earth. It's the those highwaymen who pretend to need trouble then murder the people that come to their aid. No punishment is worthy of such a betrayal.

>>738508329
if you put a scared child in a situation where they can easily die if they make a sudden move
then that is not an accident.
Even an actual court of law would try you for at least neglect lol

>>738508329
>due to the retarded child's behavior around dangerous animal companions.
No, actually, it was the retarded adult behavior from kagha who thought the best way to punish a 9 year old was threatening her with a snake SHE KNEW would kill said child if any sudden movement happened
This cannot even be considered an "unfortunate accident", this would be malicious murder in ANY court of law.

>>738497378
Does it still work? The Wylla mod stopped working for me after patch 7.

>>738508414
Save them from what? Let them do their ritual or whatever they want. It's their grove, not the tieflings'.

>>738508464
sorry I don't really care about your justifications for killing kids

>>738508406
>Because they aren't.
They literally do, if the goblins attack the tieflings form THE FIRST LINE of defense
>he druids could defend themselves
No they couldn't, without the player the goblins can overpower BOTH tieflings and druids, let alone only druids
> or do their ritual
That will lock out their leader, and give the grove to an evil enemy faction