Why is the AJRPG such a slept on genre?
RPGs in general are pretty much dead, and it's not something indies can really step in to fill the void due to them requiring that secret Japanese magic to make enjoyable characters with a team of musicians and artists to bring to life.
Isn't the A unnecessary? They've been autistic the whole time.
There are a jillion action RPGs and From Software has a money printing machine powered by releasing the same action RPG over and over for more than 10 years. I love the Ys series overall, but I'm bored of Adol bringing a friend or two who just fight for him. It's too little, too late that they went from having like 6 assholes following him around to just 1.
Bring back the Ark engine style, damn it.
>>738498612fromsoft is making AJRPGs
>>738499414>>738498787Dark souls isn't a jrpg
>>738498818I still don't understand why falcom has such a weird fetish for rim lighting.
>>738498612Ys X is horrible. That's why.
I'm playing Tokyo Xanadu though?
>>738498612>Tranime>Teen protagonist Instant drop
>>738498612Because all of them are bad
>>738499571An RPG from Japan isn't a Japanese RPG?
I recently played xandu next and i really liked, any more good falcom game?
>>738499571Dark Souls was made by Jap, and there’s an upgrade button you can abuse so you can beat the final boss in like 8 hits
>>738500094>I'm playing Tokyo Xanadu though?>TokyoI'll never forgive Falcom for turning Xanadu into weebshit
>>738500105This is a prequel set when he's about 17. They haven't kept him the same age forever and there's enough games where he's in his 20s.
Are the Igavania Castlevanias technically Action Role Playing games? They have level ups, builds and customization. They arguably have as much "RPG elements" as something like Odinsphere.Then logically wouldn't that also mean something like Nine Sols is an Action RPG because that game also has builds, level ups and customization.
>>738498612Because it puts me to sleep.
>>738500160There's nothing else quite like Xanadu Next, which is a bit sad since it's better than a lot of games they released since. Ys games are probably the closest to what they did there, and a lot of those are very good. Oath in Felghana is the best one and came out around the same time as Xanadu Next. They were doing a weird prerendered art style at the time, though, so it takes a bit to get used to the look of it. Origins is also very similar to that and a good game. Lacrimosa of Dana came out a bit later, looks way better and tells a more compelling story. They went full anime, though, so you have to be willing to see a close up of a character's face as they yell out a cool phrase and let off their finishing move.
>>738498612>Why is the AJRPG such a slept on genre?Don't know how the latest one is, but monstrum nox literally felt like playing a low budget ps2 game in levels of polish, gameplay and quality, all for the juicy price of 70€.I'm even surprised this studio hasn't gone bankrupt with what they're outputting.
>>738500376I was thinking of those because they're action games but you level up regularly. They are technically action RPGs, but they probably aren't very appealing if you liked most other action RPGs.
>>738500937>I'm even surprised this studio hasn't gone bankrupt with what they're outputting.trails is easy money for them. If it wasn't for that they probably would be.
>>738498612the truth is gacha eat that niche. True nipon anime 3D look cheaper than chinese f2p gacha games
>>738500937Their games cost nothing to make which is why they keep producing shovelwares even today
Japan bad
>>738500279Yeah why can't the japanese anime company go back to making games for manly gay faggots like myself I hate weebshit
>>738500937>literally felt like playing a low budget ps2 game in levels of polish, gameplay and qualityThat's one of the highest compliments you could make for a game in the current era.
>>738498612Hasn't been a good one since KH2FM so everybody just stopped caring.
>>738498612Because a lot of them are mediocre. Not bad enough to call shit, but not really good enough to care about them either.
>>738498818I wish they would. These games feel so good to play. They scratch an itch that nothing else can touch.
>>738503191https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7et6P7AEriAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHWlWMUL9WcYeah how dare I dislike that they turned the series from cool medieval fantasy to cringe generic anime highschooler weeb shit?
it isn't, it just very frontloadedkindgom heats, 2 specifically, is the face of it and probably considered an 8/10 at worst by most people. and in the case of ys in particular, the falcom general seems to hate every single 3d ys
>>738498612>Why is the AJRPG such a slept on genre?because turn-based jrpgs are objectively superior
>>738498612Because big names keep shitting the bed.
>>738498612>jewcomhope those fucking cunts go bankrupt before ww3
>>738508540this is a good game
>>738508751good joke
>>738498612Gachas like zzz and wuwa replaced this genre same as mobas replaced rts.
>Colorful fantasy game>Child-like themes>difficult as shit with several SMT3 tier walls of difficultyyeah wonder why
>>738508980it is a good game, thoughever
>>738509273if you're retarded maybe.
theres not a single good ys game tho, just play zelda or metal gear revengeance
>>738498612>The pc porter at Falcom was autistic enough to implement a couch coop option for Ys 8, 9, and 10.Infinitely based and it's tragic pretty much nobody played using it.
>>738512503its ph3games (which is Durante, you know, the guy from DSfix back in the days) who is contracted by nisa. falcom has little to do with it, though they did give their approval for the experimental coop features.funnily enough, they seemingly have outright taken a lot of code from the pc version of daybreak 2 done by ph3games for their own inhouse pc port of the sky remake. they kinda fucked over nisa and durante by cutting them out as middle men, which appears to be a falcom staple looking at xseed
Because they're mediocre as shit. A or not. Once upon a time Japan was known for their stories but they haven't made an interesting one in multiple decades. It doesn't help that the gameplay is often shallow and there is not a lot going on. Ever watched a show and you felt like nothing happened this episode except maybe a crucial 1% so you can't just skip it? A lot of Japanese RPGs (and Western ones too) are like that. But instead of 20-40 minutes it's 20-40 hours. Even worse when it comes to series. Every title is endless meandering until an explosive cliffhanger saying pleasebuythenextonelolthankyou. Pacing is abysmal in general. The actual RPG elements are often non-existent and just drip-feed you a pretense of progress. A lot of these games have 5-10 hours of decent content stretched to 20-40+
>Why is the AJRPG such a slept on genre?
>>738500160Try the PSP Brandish. Different gameplay but similar vibes and focus on dungeons.
>get btfo in one thread>ritual post in another threadyup it's shit
>>738509140>difficult as shitYs has a difficulty setting though
>>738513240nta but I tried PSP Brandish and I thought it was too slow and easy compared to SNES Brandish 1 and 2. I'll eventually try PC98 Brandish 2 later since I heard it not only has a better translation, but more content too.
>>738500152Those are JARPGs, not AJRPGs.>RPG: role-playing game>ARPG: called "action role-playing game", but actually "action game with role-playing elements">JRPG: Japanese role-playing game>JARPG: Japanese action role-playing game>AJRPG: Action JRPG (doesn't exist)
what does A stand for? australian jrpg?
>>738513341Never tried that version so I couldn't say. Maybe they should try both and see which one they click with.
I just started Memories of Celceta (akshually this port is called Revelations in Celceta), hope it's good. I've been following the series as it released on Switch so after VIII, Origin and IX I played Oath, X and now this which happen to be all in chronological order.
>>738513628better use og ost, the new one is dogpoo.celceta overall is kinda meh tho... but can still be a fun time, i hope you enjoy.
>>738511932Cute dinosaur
>>738498612>ajay rpgsir the very best genre with the very bestest games
>>738498612Because it's braindead, at least when Falcom is involved.>enemy appears>singa shit.mp3>spam regular attacks>spam the strongest skill>roll from time to timeYeah it might be engaging for the first half-hour but then it gets old really quick. Take the combo system from DMC at least.
>>738513893>Everything as to be complicated otherwise I can't justify how much of my life I wasted playing video games to Chad who bullied me in high schoolPlease die
>>738513893Enemies are supposed to die very quickly in Ys and not be combo material. Completely different flow to DMC.
>>738513735>the new oneWhy remake the OST? The OG is from 2012, OST stopped being chiptunes already. Better allocate more Jindo time for kiseki instead of s*nga.
>>738513954>freudian slip
>>738513954holy projection
>>738513735pic is such a semen demoni coomed like a hundred times to her
>Is Ys doing what I would dream of it doing?No>Is Ys doing something I still have fun with?Yest.pirate
>>738513954Do you have something to tell us anon?
>>738514146armpit: licked & sniffedtitty: squeezedbutt: gropedall at the same time btwyeah I am a falcom fan how did you know
>>738514216>yeah I am a falcom fan how did you knowYou did all that just to get measurements and then moved on to the next girl.
>>738499959>can't rim karjawhy even live
>>738498612It's not slept on, there's plenty of action jrpgsThe problem is jrpg is a cheap genre. Like literally everything about it is designed to be easy to produce: easy to program turn-based gameplay, simple flat maze levels, random encounters and respawning enemies, 10 million spells that only do dmg/debuff, simplistic dialogue etc. It's made so that only the character design, story and a few key moments are where all the money goes.But for action you want decent controls and dynamic and varied combat with abilities that actually do things. So with ajrpg you usually just get a platformer with a few moves and often tacked on cutscene attacks that kill the flow.>>738513893retarded simplificationif your "regular attack" does 2 dmg to the 5 million hp boss you'll just quitcomplex itemization and stats don't have to be turd-based vomit, in fact that often trivializes them
>>738508540Its impressive how boring as shit ff16 is to play
>>738513893*hits cigar*
>>738498612Elden Ring and Souls games are popular though
>Why is the AJRPG such a slept on genre?Elden Ring?
>>738509765You are, thoughbeit
>>738508540I like it, but it's too easy. I never felt like any of the boss fights were challenging.
>>738513886Hold up... she's kinda hot.