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Aged incredibly well for a FF game compared to the shitshows that were XV, Dawntrail and XVI. Phenomenal uplifting OST, classic FF feel, and the futuristic FF aspects mixed in with gods kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxhkOMuOyqc

>waves of a new day
>clear all the gloom away
>hope is what we
>simply need, to proceed
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Remaster when
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XVI is kino, sorry you got filtered
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>>738501138
>classic FF feel
bullshit
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If they combined the best parts of XIII and XIII-2 it would be a top 3 FF game
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>>738501138
>the shitshows that were XV, Dawntrail and XVI
13 is still not better than all of those, and those all have major flaws dragging them down.
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>>738502112
The other 3 aren't even FF games, they're action marvel slop
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>>738502206
>XIV
>action marvel slop
Come on now, XIV is more of a Final Fantasy game than XIII could ever dream to be
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>>738501138
>corridors: the game
lolno
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>>738502490
This you?
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>>738502109
I think XIII-2 would move up a tier and from #6 spot to #4 spot.
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The 13 trilogy has a GOD tier soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Duev_n0_qtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PijzIDM-n4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN9ybNT8x18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGPbkUrBsOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjFKWmKxKRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRYgA3dNwCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmqkE7pNNdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7PugTEwf0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jyu7b0OAqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8tXcnEbF-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9USwj1tJbjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbksZZd404s
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>>738501138
I liked XIII more than XIII-2
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>>738502206
FF13 is based heavily around launching the enemy up for an air combo and keeping them from hitting the ground as long as possible. It's more action slop than FF14, and I don't like FF14 much.
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>>738501138
I literally have not bought a single new FF game since XIII released, and nothing I've seen from the series makes me want to try them.
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>>738503125
the stagger mechanic is in Type-0, FF7, FFXV, FFXVI and in FFXIV enemies ignore being hit. Not sure what you thought you were getting out of this.
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>>738503618
Honestly it drops off fast after FF13 games. I would say FF hasn't felt like FF after 13.
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>>738503690
>Type-0, FF7, FFXV, FFXVI
You listed a bunch of games that came out after FF13 meaning they probably saw the stagger bar shit there and copied it. I don't think any of those specifically have the mechanic where you stagger an enemy, you can now do a launcher on them and that means they're helpless as long as you keep them in the air. Most of those don't really have launchers and juggles, and FF16 makes those only work on weaker enemies. The stronger ones aren't even susceptible to a launcher while staggered.
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>>738501138
nah, it's dogshit
xv being complete dogshit as well doesn't change that
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I have FFXIII apologetics fatigue
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>>738504085
I can't imagine defending the gameplay or level design but the art direction and music are actually great
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>>738503618
Last one I bought also. It was so bad it killed the series for me.
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>>738502717
>boot up FF7Remake
>corridors: the game
>everyone: FF7R IS A 10/10!!!!
???????
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>>738504206
NTA but I agree sorta. 13 has some very cool environmental designs.
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>>738502718
No, this me. =)
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>>738504424
No ass
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>>738501138
It's true. Played for the first time just a few years ago on PC, remember not really caring about it when it came out and the terrible backlash made me think it was just an awful game. Took me some time to actually buckle down and play past the first few hours

The game is absolutely beautiful top to bottom, the battle system is fantastic, the music is breath taking, UI is great, story pacing is really good, and the characters are memorable, flawed, distinct and well concepted if not a little one dimensional.

Yeah there's a lot of problems and shortcomings, the progression is basic, the story takes too long to really get going, it takes too long to get your party, linearity, etc etc etc. But there is a special kind of spirit that only a Final Fantasy game can give you, and XIII has that spirit
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>>738504596
It was a mix of the old FF and thr new FF. What you liked was whatever was left of Sakaguchi's influence. Everything after it, is Nojima and his cronies.
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>>738504424
>Ass Slider Value = -0.1
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what xiii character was actually likeable?
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>>738504268
I'm sorry, can you point to where I said that shit? No? Faggot, kill yourself.
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>>738504784
I liked all of them because they felt real
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>>738504784
The black guy unironically. He was the only normal guy surrounded by egotistic delusional faggots.
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>>738504869
Seriously this time?
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>>738504784
They all were, to me. They start out hating each other and seeming unlikeable, and then they warm up to each other over the course of the game once they understand each other and their problems.
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>>738504929
Lightning
Vanille
Fang
Snow
Hope
Sazh
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>>738504206
I don't care for the OST at all
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What was S-E thinking when they made 12 and 13? Whos decision was it to make the game play itself? Truly the beginning of the end of the series.
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>>738504784
Sazh and Vanille were my favorites.
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>>738504910
Figured as much.
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>>738501138
I really liked 13-2 when it came out but replaying it recently I don't know why I liked it so much, there's not a whole lot there. Worse there comes a point where you have to find random items with no hints as to where they are to progress and it becomes a slog.
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>3 whole games of boring ass lightning the flat cardboard (in two ways)
unironically what the fuck were they thinking
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>>738504596
I will always defend XIII as having some of the better combat in the FF mainline series (not a high bar) but the overall gameplay is very bad for a game of its length and Gran Pulse really isn't much better.
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Decade+ old shitposts is not video game discussion
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>>738505031
Easily the worst of the trilogy to me. Larger levels are appreciated but the game is braindead easy and uglier. Battle system and visuals are two of the strongest points of XIII, they can't just fuck those up.
Lightning Returns is even uglier but the battle system is even better, so I like it more than XIII-2.
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Vanille is a magical heroine of epic proportions

One of the prettiest vidya girls of all time, worth playing the game just to look at her alone
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>>738505132
you can literally beat the game by choosing the autoplay option for everything that isn't optional.
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>>738504206
The characters are not even likeable, aside for the black guy.
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>>738505132
Whenever Toriyama is in the director seat, we get kino combat. Which is funny because he's usually more of a cutscene director kind of guy, so it's not like he himself is a good battle director, but his teams always end up with the best ones. The FF7Remake games have amazing combat too. FFX and X-2 are peak as well.
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>>738505179
>Lightning Returns
I never played it but I've been flirting with getting it to try it, biggest turn off for me was that I find lightning painful to listen to. Not that it would matter now, I skipped all the cutscenes when I replayed 2 and would do the same if I played that.
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>>738501138
No. I just replayed XIII-2 recently, the voice acting is wooden, the characterization of characters on-screen is flat, the combat is too easy, and the plot is too dumb.
I haven't gone back and replayed Lightning Returns yet, but as it stands 2 is the worst of the trilogy.
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>>738505296
Irrelevant. You don't need to specifically choose your actions but you still need plenty of intent in your combat choices and even timing in your paradigm shifts. You're constantly switching to prioritize building stagger, reducing stagger recovery, buff, debuff, launching and keeping an enemy airborne and so on, as well as how the party synergizes between them in each paradigm configuration. That's a lot more engaging to me than manually choosing between interchangeable options because the game is piss easy and I don't really need to bother with most of the mechanics.

>>738505391
Really? I really like her voice. Unless you mean because of what she is saying specifically, in which case LR is even more gibberish than ever before, I have no clue what's going on in that game. But Maaya Sakamoto always does a good job with her VA. It's kind of hard to even notice it's the same actress as Aerith.
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13 had the most bizarre proportions. All the girls, except Fang but barely, are effectively 4'9 and 80lbs. Snow is like a bizarre 7ft+. One of the scenes his hand is near Serah and his hand size could literally wrap around her arm twice over. The sheer girth of his arm is larger than the female casts entire abdomen. Meanwhile Hope is like 4'0 as a 14 y/o boy.

It's all really really bizarre.
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>>738501138
Why do XIII-trannies insist on shitting on better games?
XIII will never be good and you will never be a woman.
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>>738505172
It really annoys me how insistent they are in making character look sticc in the game. Going out of your way to make the girls look less appealing to 90% of men (and women)
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>>738505607
>but you still need plenty of intent in your combat choices and even timing in your paradigm shifts.
no, you don't.
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13 is barely a video game.
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>>738503978
The stagger mechanic didn't lead them to removing all turn based mechanics, so your argument is moot.
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>>738505296
And the game has a ranking system to reward actually using the battle system as well as the fights going much faster.
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13 is a piece of shit with no redeeming factors

just listen to the music on youtube and save your precious time
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>>738504493
this is what women look lik in real life
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>>738505735
What's funny is that, even if that were true (it's not) you'd still be doing more than in most mainline FFs where you just use your strongest single target/aoe and keep buffs rolling.
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The way this game throws jargon at you is insane, if you don't stop and read the glossary for every dumb term you won't know what the hell is going on
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>>738505689
Nobody cares about your axe wound Bill
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>>738505607
>Unless you mean because of what she is saying specifically, in which case LR is even more gibberish than ever before
This, not her voice specifically. It's bad enough they're referencing a whole dictionary of words that are meaningless to me but with her specifically she's just so over the top and the combination of those things makes me doze off.
I think part of the reason I enjoyed 2 more when I played it originally is that I was far more able to follow what the fuck was actually happening, that, lack of lightning and monster collecting.
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>>738505296
>you can literally beat the game by choosing the autoplay option
You will lose tons of fights doing this, gain less rewards, and dramatically waste hours upon hours of your time.
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>>738506034
Even ignoring the ranking system, I don't think you can beat for example Barthandelus with just COM/COM/MED and never switching. Enemy spawns are limited too so you can't even grind to brute force the battles with stats only before that part, you have to actually play.
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FFXIII is possibly the most aesthetic game ever made. Pinterest turned into a game basically
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>>738506109
A game being bad is no excuse for being an idiot Anon. The story is very basic.
>Fal'cie rule over humans but actually want to kill humans to bring back their god
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>>738505625
Have you ever seen an Asian woman is real life? That is what they look like.
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>>738506109
Always thought that was a skill issue, I didn't read shit because I'm lazy and I could follow just fine.
Maybe if you take long breaks between each play session I could see it becoming confusing.
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imagine making a final fantasy game with no fucking towns
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>>738501138
Port to a playable system when?
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>>738506129
I think I got to chapter 8 with auto battle before I quit the game permanently.
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>>738506257
PC version is good with ff13fix
https://github.com/rebtd7/FF13Fix
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>>738504784
sazh is based because he's just as exasperated at all the dumb shit as the player is

then his son turns into a crystal and all he ever talks about is his son for the rest of the game
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>>738506249
Uh they are fugitives fighting fate so it wouldn't make sense (disregard all the other FFs where the characters are wanted criminals)
Really though, the end of the road in Oerba and the small hope that it would actually be a populated settlement was cute but they could have sold that moment while still having just regular towns in Cocoon.
I guess that would also conflict with the storytelling of jumping between different party members each chapter but that was also a horrible decision from a gameplay perspective so just re-make the game from the ground up.
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>>738506171
>The story is very basic.
FFXVI
>god rules over humans but wants to kill humans to bring back other gods
FFXIV
>gods created humans by splitting themselves up and now wants to bring back other gods by killing humans
FF7
>God-like being wants to kill all humans
FFXV
>Gods allow all humans to die and god-like being wants to kill the gods (and all humans)
FFX
>Gods wants to kill all humans
FFV
>Goddess wants to kill all humans
FFVI
>God-like being wants to kill all humans
>FFII
God-like being wants to kill all humans
>FFXII
>Gods corrupts humans to kill them

Did you forget what game you're playing?
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>>738506289
That's the point Anon. You're supposed to intentionally make the game horrible to play of your own choice and then act like the game is bad because of how you're playing it.
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>>738506289
You never beat the game, but claim people can beat the game with 0 proof. Nice job.
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What's crazy but what everyone needs to admit is true is that if they just Remastered FF13 1-3 instead of FF7 1-3, people would be thinking more fondly of Square Enix games.
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>>738506384
Did you read the rest of my post and what I replied to or did I just trigger some autistic part of your brain? All I was saying is that it's not hard to follow what's going on.
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>>738506481
The game isn't bad
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>>738506129
>lose rewards
you literally cannot get under 5 stars unless you are playing at sub 1 apm and the ratings barely affect item drops
why lie about this dogshit?
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>>738506475
>What's crazy is that if they completely remade a game that people thought was bad, it'd be received better then if they completely remade a game that people think is good
That's fucking psycho.
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>>738506172
Adult women, even in Asia, do not have the proportions of preteens..
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>>738506520
That's good for you Anon.
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>>738501138
It's a decent movie. Yes, a movie.
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>>738506528
Star ratings verifiably effect item drops, and you can lose stars for not fighting optimally. It's not all about speed.
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>>738505625
Lightning is 5'7" you retard
Look at Sazh

Stop being retarded
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>>738506528
>5x rare item multiplier
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>>738506428
>you would've enjoyed the nonsensical story, characters you hated and the endless hallways if you actually engaged with the combat system
Definitely.
>>738506445
>but claim people can beat the game with 0 proof.
Yes I did say that and wasn't just sharing a random anecdote about my experience with being bored with the game.
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>>738506594
literally everything in this post is wrong lmao
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>>738506643
It's not wrong, you'd need to play the game to realize that.
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>>738506640
>you would've enjoyed the nonsensical story, characters you hated and the endless hallways if you actually engaged with the combat system
Didn't say that but I'm sorry the me living in your head is saying that to you.
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>>738506640
You claimed that people could beat the game on autobattle, and you've never been able to. If it was really that simple you'd have beaten the game quickly.
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>>738506693
>Didn't say that
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>>738506729
>you claimed
Yes.
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>>738506747
I can't control what the voices in your head tell you. You'll need medication for that.
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It has weird cuck undertones tho
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>>738506783
Not my problem. Take it up with your voice in my head.
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>>738506789
trans icon
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>>738503072
I remember being concerned when it was coming out that it didnt have uematsu, lo and behold the only part of 13 I ended up actually liking was the music
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>>738506879
I think you mean a reminder that they will never be a real woman.
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>>738501138
Ha, no. LR was good though.
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>>738506920
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https://youtu.be/Hj8Pi3iPqks?si=ekTv4Wf9G7oFNpYA

WORLDS COLLIDE AND PEOPLE FADE
SEEKING GATES AND TIMELINES
THROUGH THE GATES
WE'VE ALL PRAYED
LET'S FIX THE PAST
TRADE IT NOW TO SEE
SMILING FACES
THIS HOPE HEART OF CHAOS
CANNOT TAKE
PARADOXES MUST BREAK
THIS IS THE PATH I MUST TAKE
MY DESTINY MAY CHANGE YOUR FATE
THE PAIN IN MY HEART
FEELS IS MY
STRENGTH
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>>738504784
I actually liked all of them except for snow and to a lesser extent hope
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>>738506948
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>>738506879
If they could get away with it, they would all be trans icons.
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Caius won
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>>738504206
15 years ago this image was hardcore as fuck to me

i had a giant poster in my room and everything
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>>738507106
You were right, it's raw as fuck indeed
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>>738501138
>Aged incredibly
Agreed
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>>738504784
>XIII
Cid Raines
>XIII-2
Serah, Noel, Lebreau, Yuj, Caius, Yeul, who liked flowers, Dark Yeul, Mog, Chocolina, Sazh
>LRXIII
A bunch of NPCs, whose names I can't remember (Luka, the medicine beggar, the chef, the train conductor, the maestro etc.), Lightning, Lumina, Serah, Caius, Chocolina, Bhunivelze
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>>738505031
>a point where you have to find random items with no hints as to where they are
They are where the images show them being.
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>>738507125
>well thought out world
>combination of futuristic and tribal elements
>new versions of all the eikons
>full party
>combat system that involved strategic switching similar to dressphere's but more dynamic
>triumph in battle
>golden saucer
>chill beats everywhere
>good boss battles
Yeah, I'm thinkin' it's kino
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>>738507705
You just described FFXVI
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>>738505172
Such cute feet, exactly what I came into this thread for.
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>>738504784
Serah /ourgirl/, Hope, Jihl, Cid, Yaag, Shiva sisters, Bahamut

Serah (again), Caius, Yeul, Hope (again), Alyssa
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>>738507849
XVI doesn't even have elements lol
No party members lol
Give it a rest kid
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>>738501138
>no cities
>no merchants
>most linear FF ever
>lighting has no ass
>20 hours of tutorial
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>>738506083
>having the game autoselect your best heal or attack is actually more strategic than picking it yourself
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>>738507849
>FFXVI
>futuristic
The fuck? It's high fantasy at best, you don't get a full party, you can only control Clive and slightly direct his dog; the armor/weapon system is barebones and all you do is buy next best thing for arbitrary stats, half of it is a movie, and the eikons are shiny FFXIV ones and not actually new, world is empty fields because the game purposefully destroys cities so you can't get to them.
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>>738507849
True. The 10/10 FFXVI has all that and much more.
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>>738504206
XIII is the absolute maximum of sci-fi over fantasy ratio I would want in a FF title but I always loved it's art direction. I like how nearly all enemies in the game looked mechanical to at least some degree.
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>>738508010
>no cities
Entire thing is a city, play the game.
>no merchants
There are merchants you sell your stuff to and buy items
>most linear FF ever
FFX is 100% linear so no
>20 hours of tutorial
Considering you have no idea what resources or places are in the game, it's required for (You)
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>>738508118
It's kinda insane how badly XIII mogs XVI
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>>738508253
>weather is a fal'cie
>administration and finance is a fal'cie
>entire city is a fal'cie
The design was insane
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>>738501138
FINALLY a good thread!
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>>738508027
>didn't realize that I was referring to paradigms and paradigm shifting for auto atb reset as well as stagger timings and juggling
I didn't think I'd need to spoonfeed anyone this hard.
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>>738508292
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>>738508327
For me it's the way that the save point is a computer terminal that has all the online shopping in it. Even though there aren't "shops"....it's literally as futuristic as it can be

The last FF with a traditional save point and it's very well thematically integrated
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEpYnm8xI6E
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>>738508461
the game is dogshit. you can keep posting pretending otherwise.
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We HAVE to go back
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>>738508292
>Entire thing is a city
average FFXIII enjoyer iq, ladies and gentlemen
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>>738508292
>FFX is 100% linear so no
at this point just say FFXIII was your first FF, it would spare you the embarrassment of making a fool of yourself
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>the XIIIfag is now even trying to shit on X
XIIIgers are truly the worst of the worst Final Fantasy "fans"
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nobody said anything bad about X, schizo
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>>738505172
i am a pedophile but.....
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>>738510014
stop contradicting my strawman
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>>738506729
NTA but I did it. I beat XIII and XIII-2 with nothing but libra and auto battle, plus the same rotation of paradigms (heal/buff, ravage to stagger, commander when staggered, repeat). The only boss I even remotely remember struggling with was the final boss of XIII-2
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>>738501942

I didnt give a fuck about literally of the characters in that game. Combat was good tho.
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one of the few FF games i actually finished. desu i think this entire series is more dogshit than good
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Lightning is the most beautiful woman in the series
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she's such a dork
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>>738501138
Probably the only jap game/series where i like eng dub.
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>>738511341
we love Princess Serah round these parts
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>>738511436
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>>738501138
At least the music is never a disappointment with final fantasy.
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poor op always desperate to keep the engagement going for his shit game that nobody liked, nobody likes, and nobody will ever like because it's fucking doshit
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>>738505625
You might find this hard to believe, but that's actually what people in the first world used to look like before everyone got fat.
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I hate tourists that started with 13
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>>738501138
The music and graphics are nice, even the gameplay is fine. Not good, but functional.
Unfortunately the writing and characters are the game's biggest failings, Lightning is the worst lead in series history and single-handedly killed any interest I had in the series until XV, which as a game is a complete farce but at least it's an entertaining kind of train wreck as opposed to whatever the fuck XIII and its sequels are supposed to be.
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I played XIII trilogy it was mega ass
Worst Final Fantasy by far
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People kill if they are died.
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XIII has zero legacy. It actively killed the entire series.
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>>738512129
You're saying this in a thread about FFXIII 17 years after the fact.
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ah... floating geometry. the best kind of final dungeon
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>>738511634
Tourists that started with xiii are older than majority of posters here lol.
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>>738512454
it wasn't a cultural phenomenon like smash bros ultimate
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replayed XIII last year, hated it then and now somehow hated it even more.
replaying XIII-2 now, which I had a lot of fun with then. So far, it's worse than I remembered. The story and characters are laughably bad, it's funny that they spent so much effort on XIII's lore but then go on to use none of it in the immediate sequel in favour of a time travel shonen.
XIII-2 polishes the combat system but the pets and level progression isn't as fun as it should be.
I'll be going into LR for the first time once afterward. Thanks for reading my blog.

Also, the PC ports are shit, I had to do a lot of tinkering to get the game running well and I am gatekept by DLC content which I would have to mod in to get the full experience.
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>>738512667
LR is fantastic if you pretend it's its own thing and just happens to have cameos from FFXIII
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>>738501138
The thing about FF13 is that to this day NO ONE has properly explained the trilogies story in its entirety in one coherent video.
It is simply too complex, I guess no one has actually managed to figure it out.

People have made videos for single games but never for the trilogy as a whole.

Let me tell you: It actually all makes sense, and there are no real plot holes, instead there is a coherent holistic reading of the game. And it is absolutely amazing.
But I guess no one has figured it out.

I have wanted to make a video about it for 10 years now but I am never getting to it, it seems.
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>>738501138
>7 tracks out of 100 are listenable on their own
wowzers
vgmfags get the rope NOW
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>>738512667
LR isn't as in bad of shape as XIII and XIII-2 ports so that's 1 headache you won't have to worry too much about.
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>>738512667
>the PC ports are shit
I don't know what I missed out on but I installed the fix mods before playing and never thought about it. The ports are great*.
*with mods
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>>738512931
You can literally make a 4 hour long playlist out of FF13 1-3 tracks alone, and it will be amazing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUOOgNzOv4
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I just replayed XIII and I gotta say its a lot better than I remembered.

I played it when it came out and hated it for all the reasons everyone knows.
But having replayed it I found it actually quite good.

the linearity in the first half didn't bother me one bit anymore. I guess its because I realized that all FF games are practically linear as fuck anyway and most "exploration" is just fluff.
lack of towns and usual jrpg dynamics didn't bother me as well anymore, because XIII made up with character and story focus.
combat system and music is top tier
characters are better than I remembered. I used to hate them and cited their simple two dimensionality as one of my main criticisms but I actually really grew to like them this time around
it has plenty of great ideas, and looks absolutely amazing.

not gonna write a bigger wall of text, but i went from citing it as worst final only topped by XV to probably top 5 for me.
never played 2 and LR so that's next on the agenda.
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>>738513072
yeah, if you repeat each track 10 times
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>>738513027
The clean install of XIII worked but not great, it was choppy at times so I applied the fixes and it ran perfectly.
XIII-2 didn't even boot up until I applied the mod fixes but it generally runs worse, the framerate drops in certain areas and there are weird graphic bugs in like 5% of the battles. It's fine.

Both are better than 16 on PC, which required both fixes and regular maintenance due to memory leak. I have no idea how the average joe with no PC knowledge could play that game on PC
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>>738501942
Pretty sick combat tbqh but the story could not have sucked any more if it tried. Never cook again game of thrones fags
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>lets put the story of our game into a library menu instead of showing it in gameplay
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TOBLERONE!
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Ugliest Bahamut design.
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>>738501138
>classic FF feel
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I liked XIII. I didn’t realize the discourse on it was so bad, like I can see how the linearity etc was a problem, but idk, didn’t seem like much to me. They probably could’ve disguised it more like FFX? And then people complain about the terms, but I read so much fantasy slop that it didn’t even register. I’m used to authors just making up long and incomprehensible words. I haven’t really gone back and replayed it though, so maybe it’s just me at the time that thought that way and now it’ll be different if I replayed it. I haven’t played XIII-2 and LR, so when I replay it, I’ll play through the whole trilogy.
I heard there were some problems on Steam, is that still true? Like should I wait for a remaster or something? Surely one is coming.
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>>738504206
Every single FF has a good soundtrack, that's not an argument in favour of XIII you cocksucking retard
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>>738513167
>>738513676
as someone who hatred 13 I ended up buying 13-2 and I enjoyed a lot more than I thought.
LR was also incredibly good gameplay wise
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>>738513360
>Never cook again game of thrones fags
The problem with 16's story is that they didn't commit enough to the GoT influence. The generic FFisms creep back in and cause the story to fail at both being a GoT story and a FF story.
We needed more factional intrigue and moving pieces. The game pretends like it is going to be so complex that you need a map of who's who but none of it matters, it is just hero of light vs chaos.

If they took this exact setting and had multiple viewpoint POVs and character motivations like GoT, it may have been interesting. More fun gameplay-wise too.
The story could be complex with all seemingly valid morals unwittingly playing into Ultima's hands.
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>>738513763
16’s story sucks, and the gameplay is soulless. It’s an RPG only in name. The only reason I gave the game a 5/10 is because the Eikon fights are good. 0/10 otherwise. Also making the main quest have filler worse than XIV ARR certainly was a choice. Someone tell Yoshi P that It’s okay if the story is short if that’s what you want to focus on. You ruined it by shoving filler in the MSQ.
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>>738513763
It's a story they never should have even attempted with Yasumi Matsuno. It misses me off that they greenlight XVI but endlessly muddled with XII.
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>>738513710
what? 13 specifically has a lot of very great and memorable tracks
for one thing all the main character theme are bangers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjbOorUBBUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vVfP11XCdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJJvQy_Gwh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYb2vVQtrxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhSUhJU_E0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbI-YOVFU10

mind you I don't even like the game itself it's like at the bottom of my list of FF games. But for its soundtrack it is more memorable than entries like 12. The overall soundtrack i'd rate it above 16.
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they should get the writer of shadowbringers and endwalker to write a final fantasy
or maybe even rope in yoko taro though that could turn out to either be kino of the highest order or a disaster
yoshi P needs to fuck off
i like 7 remake series a lot
thanks for reading my blog about FF
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>>738501138
The graphics of XIII are still good to this day. They cooked with that and the OST.
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>>738513763
OK analysis but I'm just not interested in the GOT faggery in the first place, I think it completely goes against the makes impossible the charm I usually find in FF
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>>738514284
not really graphics it's very good art direction that stands the test of time
shit like this ran on 256MB of RAM
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>>738514479
I would certainly hope so, it was just hallways with very good wallpapers draped in the background
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Why isn't she the main villain?
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>>738514517
It just pisses me off because modern games look and run like shit
just take a similar art direction to FF13, scale it up to not all be shitty hallways, and you'd have something good.
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>>738503072
god it's so fucking GOOD
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>>738514479
Shit blew my mind back in the day. And it still looks good.
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>>738501942
Thinking XVI's combat is good may be one of the strongest demonstrations of Dunning Kruger in the industry in the last ten years
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I literally only like 3 final fantasy games.

Final fantasy 8. Final fantasy 10 and final fantasy 13.

I always felt like a retarded contrarian because everyone shat on FF8, FF10 and FF13 at launch of all of these games but I have been vindicated because the other games like FF9 are slowly fading away yet FF8, FF10 and FF13 remain cult classics that people keep bringing up including game developers like those of expedition 33 citing ff8 and ff10 as their inspirations.
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>>738504821
So you don't like any game in the series then?
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>>738501138
I'm replaying through XIII after getting it on sale, and it is a fucking good game. The only thing that's objectively bad is the corridor filled leveled design, and even that isn't that bad as nowadays 90% of the world are fucking open world slop with huge maps filled with pointless shit. It's almost refreshing in a way
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>>738514968
>even that isn't that bad as nowadays 90% of the world are fucking open world slop with huge maps filled with pointless shit.
y'know given todays trend of open world slop now I genuinely do wonder how modern audiences would take a FF13 Remaster/Rerelease
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>>738514968
It's a story focused game with a shit story. FFXIII is and always will be bad.
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what do you think of these vids, op?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MohTbZFwn2E
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>>738515095
It's aesthetic based game with amazing aesthetics. The story is also amazing, the plot is shit but that's not all a story is.
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>>738501138
>compared to ffxv
but thats not a high standard
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>>738504784
Vanille, hope, black dude. Not lightning or snow lol.
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>>738517060
>Vanille
>Hope

Are you retarded
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>>738504784
Vanilla, Sazz, Lightning's fat boss



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