Now that we have confirmation from Sony themselves that Saaaros and Marathon both flopped bigly, will they finally start listening to gamers instead of troons?
>>738528391How do you know that Saros flopped?
>>738528451>Ranked 11 in the US and 17 in EU, didn’t even rank in AsiaBig bomba
>>738528391Sony is sustained by football (EA slop) chads. They don't care about performance of little pet project games like Saros. It literally doesn't register on their radar.
>>738528391they will probably just raise prices on everything. they still have goddess of war and intergalactic coming down the pipeline so the woke will continue to broke
>>738528391no one has been able to even explain what is "woke" about marathon.the game has no pronouns, no flags, not vitilligo, there is 1 (one) black robot and that's it.
>>738528391>game is called Saaros>MC is an Indian manThis had to be intentional, right? Shame the story is apparently some hyper woke SJW shit, returnal was actually really cool and well done.
>>738528649Like 70% of all Sony's revenue comes from fortnite,niggerball, and GTAO. With every other game combined making up the other 30%. Once I learned that I cannot take any snoy seriously
>>738528875You play as non binary shells that are a trans allegory
>>738528391They still need to fire Hulst. Then they can completely turn the page from the Jimbo era and get back to making real games again.
>>738528618anon, saros was out for one day in April, wait for May at least.
>>738529203It had an early access edition
>>738528939>returnal was actually really cool and well doneNo it fucking wasn't retard, it was a bland boring easy roguelite for normalfags who can only comprehend the genre if it is delivered to them with a 60 dollar price I pirated it and legitimately lamented the disk space I had to give up to seed it
>>738529073>you play as (head cannon) shells that are a (head cannon)
>>738528391it's not going to end until californians are removed. none of them give a shit if their game flops, and the studio goes under. they got their paycheck and name listed on the credits of a "big name production"
Sony has been printing money by selling its worst console. They still have cash to push their meme ideology.
>>738529203oh I'm sure it'll turn around until it doesn't and then the next excuse gets passed down the funnel.
As long as consultants like Anita Sarkeesian and Sweet Baby Inc still exists, no.
Answer is noI can’t think of anything actually woke about Marathon.And even without the woke TPS bullet hell is a niche genreit wouldn’t have made a very significant differenceIt has more to do with the game catering to a niche while having a massive budget than with going wokeBecause good woke games sell and will continue to sell well
>>738528391i don’t think it’s woke, it’s people not wanting to spend 70 bucks on a roguelite
>>738529585>Because good woke games sell and will continue to sell wellYeah like… huh….
>>738529564>It was always meant to be a niche hardcore game
>>738530012especially funny because it was marketed as the next biggest MP game to sweep the scene.
>>738529585>I can’t think of anything actually woke about Marathon.>every male robot is black
>>738529932BG3RDR2CP2077HadesCarin WOTRKCD2Yotei
>>738530072I was talking about saaros but yeah lmao
>>738528391>non-binary option in Tomodachi Life>tendie faggots defending it en masseThe woke is just getting started anon
>>738530074It's kinda gay and artsy feels more like 2012's lib shit than woke
>>738528391We can only hope. Sony seems dead-set on pushing 'the agenda' though.
>>738528451>How do you know that Saros flopped?Because the protagonist is literally Indian.
>>738528618Crimsonbros, we won
>>738529041Cope poorfag, your turd world PC will never be better than PS5
>>738530138>nintendo lets you turn off and ignore all that faggotshit >sony makes it a core component of the game
Games don't outwardly crash for being "woke". A good game will still be good with "woke" HOWEVER, there is a limit. For example, no one will play something like Concord, though that itself wasn't a good game. But it was so outwardly gay and UGLY that no one even bought it to even see if it was fun (it wasn't). But something like BG3 where you can largely ignore the faggots and there is little to no faggotry in the main story or you can just kill the faggots, people will overlook that sort of stuff (other than insane /pol/ tier anons) if everything else is good and it's not so in your face. The same reason why RDR 2 is remembered so fondly despite how awful Sadie was and all the weird feminist quests. Because they were so small and usually out of the way, that you could still enjoy the rest of the game.But like I said - if it's too much, too obvious, no one is gonna touch it. No one will look at gay shit like and be like, "Yep. That's a game for me"
>>738530123I never got that impression from the rougelite tps/bullet hell games, but I also think you're at odds with the genre by making it an over the shoulder shooter whenever you start trying to turn up the heat. it always felt like these devs wanted bullet hell games likeable for people that want a story game.
>>738528391The company that paid for Concord shouldn't need the same lesson repeated so many times. Maybe there was a big push for this years back and they're spitting out the games made from that slowly right now. It's also possible that they didn't learn anything and will only make games nobody wants from now on.
>>738528391Have you faggots been able to explain why Marathon is woke yet?
>>738528391nah, they'll make another Class Shooter
>>738530659George Droyd
>>738528391Not yet, as Nintendo is entering their woke phase due to being years behind.The sooner they get out, the sooner woke dies once and for all.
>>738528391nintendo and sony are more censor happy than ever. not even fanservice franchises can show skin anymore. gacha is the only thing with titties anymore and half of those are being censored because of china and the app store. the only game in years without insane chat restriction is deadlock. troonslations are now the norm. the wokes already won nigga.
>>738528391Financially speaking, woke was never in. It was supported by groups like blackrock who was willing to take a financial hit to try to push social change, but it has become clear (thanks to the efforts of anti-woke activists like /v/) that these changes aren't coming. That's why there has been such a vibe shift over the last year, why major corporations have walked back woke (pride 2025 basically didn't happen), why more people are openly supporting Trump, and why attractive female designs are slowly returning to games (lords of the fallen 2). Since games take a long time to make, the tail ends of this era are releasing right now. It's like the end of the war of the worlds, where the tripods are just collapsing on their own.
>>738530092Every game on this list that's actually a success has either a setting that appeals to the male fantasy, titties, or both.
>>738530092>BG3I can genocide every woke abomination, not woke>RDR2I can kill women and minorities, not woke>CP2077See above>HadesThe first one wasn't woke>Carinliterally who>WOTRflopped>KCD2flopped so bad that even paid journos didn't want to give it any awards, Vavra left his director position altogether and decided to follow movie Cuckmann path>Yoteialso didn't win any awards from paid journos and also had its CEO step downI'm noticing a pattern herego woke - go broke
>>738528451Because I have an Aryan brain.
Anons here dredge up examples of woke when it is a stretch or some no-name project but ignore any successes from woke games and say they they aren't woke. This rhetorical trick allows you to maintain that one is somehow both superior too but is also conspired against one's ops. This is probably why Hasan Piker is so despised because he is quite good looking and physically strong which is a big major narrative that leftoids are more like goblins. Point out that Rural people are fatter than Urbanites in developed countries and that is where a lot of these chuds come from and they start to scatter. They want to feel superior to woke people and have an excuse as to why their lives suck
>gachatroon opinion ^Into the trash it goes
I swear I didn't hear about Saros once. Where was the hype for this game?Do my eyes just gloss over bland Sony slop?
>>738531121>Cope>Cope>CopeLol you are a retard A successful game False Recovered budget on day 1 and sold 4 million copies after that, not to mention you can also kill women and gypsies in KCD2 so if kcd is woke then rest of em are also woke >irrelevant bullshit
>it's le woke and bad because uhhhhh
>>738531121>I can genocide every woke abomination, not wokeYou can. And it's considered evil. Woke.>RDR2See above. Woke.>CP2077You ARE a woke abomination, that's the entire point of the setting. Woke.>HadesFirst one had an asexual and gay sex with Thanatos. Woke.Didn't play the rest.Just because you like a game doesn't mean it isn't woke.
>>738531190Natie wouldnt say this
>>738531325It's from a studio that isn't very popular, similar to their previous work, and there's nothing appealing about the new one. Doesn't help that it's exclusive to a console nobody has. I heard about it months ago, decided I don't want it and didn't look into it after.
>>738531339>ur gay lole
>>738531340>posting BLACKED gachaYou jeets are sure in full alert mode today, maybe Marathon flop was too much for you lmao
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>>738531403By your definition everything evil is wokeYet you enjoy the fruits of capitalism you loatheCurious
>>738531819>toxotrannykek
>>738528391How have you not yet realized that ‘flopping’ does not matter to them?Sales income is entirely secondary.All costs are pre-covered by blackrock and friends footing the bill.They do not care about success or failure. Killing off studios is almost always a net positive for the big corps.Its not easy to understand, I get it, but, that is how it is.
>>738531784You need to take your meds.
>>738528451snoysis....
>>738531989>Sales income is entirely secondaryYou mean they're killing game studios not just for free, they PAID for it? Ultimate cuck behaviour lmao
>>738531562Yeah I posted her as an example of someone who would be malding about woke or whateverThe simple fact is that leftoids are much MUCH more likely to be hipsters when it comes to consuming media and as such the notion that they don't care about whether a game is successful or not is actually kind of true. Chuds generally only really play anybody else play because they are conformists and thus use "Objective" metrics to determine game quality. If you say like Blue Archive but Fate/Go performs better than you either become marginally more woke and not care about sales or conform to being a Fate/Go player. The consequences of playing an unpopular game is that there is nobody for them to yap to and most chuds are failed normalfags. In Jungian terms they are very likely to be average IQ Extroverted Thinking types.
>>738531993And you need to fight your porn addiction, gachatroonHRT is really bad for you
>>738528391lame and gayshit will continue until izzat improves
>>738531989>All costs are pre-covered by blackrock and friends footing the bill.not nearly as much any more. companies started pulling their investment funding into blackrock a year or so ago because they were losing money so much across the board.
>>738528391No, they will never stop.
>>738532138Speak english, brown subhuman
>>738532397Your posting style is very noticeable. Whenever the vibes shift against you you post about American midterm results and also post trump. It's kind of weirdly pathetic.
>>738531854Deflection And retarded assumptions
>>738532532>schizo ESL subhuman from /pol/kek, like clockwork
>>738532640Why are you talking about your own posts suddenly?
>>738532940>KekPerformative chantardism got here from...2022 right?
>>738533017>2022nice self report election tourist lmao
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>>738528391Amazoning games desu. This board doesn't play anything now so I can see why you don't like it.
>>738528391Woke has nothing to do with money. Woke is in the minds of developers. It's their religion. When the company fails because there's no money these devs don't just disappear into the ether, they are swept up by other companies and the cycle begins anew. There will never be an end to woke because the people making games are woke and they will always be able to get new jobs in the industry because experience is favored over anything else. The cycle starts anew with a new company, a new game and game journalists writing articles that the game failed because it's "Entering into an oversaturated market" or "it was ahead of it's time" or "Chud review bombed it".Devs haven't even begun to think to themselves that the issues are their ugly characters and ugly stories.
>>738533725Experience does look very good on a resume, but you'd think listing like "art director for Concord" or "writer for God of War Ragnarok" would be a red flag for anyone thinking about hiring you.
>>738533923I mean, half the devs of Highguard also worked on Concord
>>738533923HR filters applications, and they not only won't do their job, they'll actually make more work for other people. t. accountant that has had to process payroll at every job I've been at for the last 15 yearsI've even seen the department defer complaints to me about why their checks are late because there was no pay rate listed on their contract and I had been waiting on a reply but was told they were too busy because the head HR's kid was napping in her office.
The vast majority of trannies I know like shit like Resident Evil or DMC or comfy sims like Stardew Valley, not modern day AAA slopSurely you're not just using troon as a meaningless shorthand for everything you dislike, right anon?
>>738530409There are no good games that are woke.
What makes Saros and Marathon "woke"?
>>738535813Saros is smelly dei curry and men bad though at least it has the courtesy of providing an ending where the guy "wins". The game itself is ace. GOTY for me so far. Very overpriced though.
>>738532138>leftoids are much MUCH more likely to be hipsters when it comes to consuming media and as such the notion that they don't care about whether a game is successful or not is actually kind of true.Leftists being hipsters or not is irrelevant. Leftists are irrelevant. The entities who care about sales numbers are the game publishers and investors. When a pozzed game has low sales, us chuds celebrate because we know the investors will not be happy about their poor investment, and that will not bode well for the pozzed game publisher. I'm not sure where your other insults are coming from. Were you bullied in school for acting like a fag?
>>738534203Funnily enough, most of Concord devs used to work at Bungie
>>738535813Tranny characters in marathon
>>738528391>talking shit about MarathonUh oh, janny melty incoming!
>>738533725>experience is favored over anything else.Not true. The games industry in the west is a lot like the animation industry or Hollywood. Success is achieved based on relationships. If you have connections, you literally can't fail. That's why you see cam whoring trannies succeed in the video game sphere. These freaks have "connections" one way or another. That's part of what gamergate was about. The incestuous nature of the industry breeds birth defects and corruption
>>738536318are they cute/hot?
>>738536116>us chuds
Saros is greatI pretend the enemies are trump voters and kill everything
>>738528939'Saros' is the term for the amount of time between an eclipse happening and happening again, because eclipses happen on cycles. I forget the exact amount of time, something like 80 years I think, but if you have an eclipse one day, and another eclipse the day after, those are two different eclipses, which will then both return again in exactly the same way 80 years later. That 80 years is saros.
>>738533923>would be a red flag for anyone thinking about hiring you.Not if the person hiring you thinks that the game failed because you were persecuted by chuds who hate women.Gamergate united game developers into feminists.
>>738536363No
>>738528391Black rock free money left the scene but now we only have indoctrinated woke devs
>>738530659>tranny art direction>every male shell is african
>>738536346Leftists only hire leftists, moderates and conservatives hire anyone. So over time, every company becomes "woke". Even the ones with no previous agenda.
>>738528391Which of these two were the biggest KWAB?
>>738540428Marathon because Snoy spent 4 billion on that shit (alongside the cost of buying the studio)
>>738540428Marathon without doubts, until yesterday’s report it was still shilled non stop here
>>738537657>Black rock free money left the sceneAnd you believe that, just because the same (((bankers))) trying that shit told you so?Those 'people' rebrand and come right back.
>>738528875hey its the tranny from the marathon threads!sup bro, ive sene people explain it to you like a billion timesor should i say sis?
>>738537892what about the art direction is tranny>every male shell is africanThis could easily just them being lazy and cheap and only having single voice actor doing it, if they happened to be white you wouldn't have batted an eyeUnless there's multiple VAs and they are all african, in which case sure, that's probably intentional
>>738537892I'm pretty sure Asassin (in game) nor Rook isn'tYou can only see Destroyer's mouth
>lefty mental gymnastics Not buying the woke slop, cry harder.
>>738528391Probably, but it's not going to show until at least the PS6 generation. It's too late for this generation. Gonna be realistic with you, the PS6 handheld is the PS6's only saving grace, honestly.
>>738530904>Nintendo is entering their woke phase dueLooking at Pokemon Winds and Waves says the opposite. America and Japan are exiting our woke phase. It'll die globally because all that woke shit started here in the US, we're ground zero and it started because of puritan churches and the woke ass academia. Both are being corrected finally after so many years of neglect. Puritanism will be a dead concept in less than a decade. Anyone that shills it will be bullied here.
>>738540428saaros was relatively cheap, even if it doesn't recoup costs rn they can just release on PC and will probably by then, plus it enriches the catalogue of the ps5
>>738544218>it enriches the catalogue of the ps5Yeah, in the same way that 5M indian immigrants enrich your local population
>>738528391Evil can only ever be banished for a time.
>>738544218Stop, stop defending western Sony, you prick. I'm glad Sony isn't listening to trash like you and instead shifting towards wanting things like Astro Bot and bringing back their old franchises from both Japan and the west through XDev with the live-service shit slowly going away and the cinematic shit slowly being pushed on the side as a one game year thing that will probably expand for many years until Sony just stops making them. I don't know why you keep defending western AAA trash. Our shit hasn't been good for years. If you want to be taken seriously, you best be starting to defend games with hot sexy babes again over your dying woke puritan propaganda.
>>738528451It has twice the budget of returnal. It can't just skate by with a million the way the first one did or squeeze by like ghost of yotei. It needs to lead sales or it's toast..
>>738544337Underrated
>>738528875I feel bad for your parents, raising a retard with memory problems. Bungie devs own statements on the game alone are more than enough.
>>738544586holy schizo melty...where exactly did I say that closing japan studios was a good thing?take your meds
>>738528875its by bungie.....
>>738528939Sony and this game specifically has sensitivity readers, and higly paid ones at that. I suspect it's deliberate to try to hate market the game.
>>738528939its one of those feminist DO BETTER games, then at the end you find out they flip you the middle finger anyways because ur male and you can never reach their impossible 1 sided standards
>>738529495Yes, but the gap is so bad that even normie investors are starting to notice Losses on Bungie related shit alone is headed towards Billion territory.>>738529073LOL. your'e a chump.
>>738528391It definitely isn't.They're stealing taxpayer and private equity cash to fund all this shit. They don't care about whether it sells, it's about proselytizing the religion.Ask yourself, would a christian care if he spent other people's money to create pro-christian messaging, videogames, etc. and none of it sold? Of course not, it just matters to get the word out there and convert people. It's worth investing money into doing that, the payoff is the conversion not the sales.And that's how the woketards think too, they think they can convert people by spending other people's money to shove their ideology down your throat whether you want it or not.Since other people's money keeps flowing into their pockets through various forms of graft and fraud, this isn't going to stop. This is the entire livelihood of half the industry right now. They wouldn't even be able to get a job if game dev went back to making good games that sell well, because they're incompetent retards playing as evangelists.
>>738529585>It has more to do with the game catering to a niche while having a massive budget than with going wokeLOL. One is directly connected to the other. Bungie spent millions of dollars on research at the Ivy league to render black hair better....and then didn't use it at all in the game. They gave millions to the SPLC, complete with in game support. Woke by definition is against the mainstream. Games that are super woke are super niche, axiomatically. You cannot get a big mainstream hit if you're woke to the point that mainstream gamers like the chuds are repelled.
>>738530659>>738528875They're getting more desperate. Not even pretending to read this thread. Much less the hundereds of others on the subject.
>>738531325Sony claims they spent a normal AAA marketing budget on it, but haven't exposed financials. Did they do it all in hindi?
>>738533923You would think, but the tranny that made veilguard landed a job leading a AAA project yet to be named at WOTC/Hasbro. ZQ is still writing. Most recently at the Aliens VR game. And writer for Ragnarock is on Saaros.
>>738535724Don't be so pouty my estradol fueled homie. We use troon as a food additive now. Don't take it so personally.
>>738540428Marathon is the undisputed financial bomb of the year so far, almost but not quite in skull and bones and concord class, and losing money every month. It's already lost about 3x of saaros's entire budget, and more than 2x of the next runner up highguard's entire budget. It dwarfs other big failures like Ubisoft's POP reboot.>>738544218"relatively" being 80 million vs 300 million and counting.Saaros doubled returnals budget but is tracking to do only slightly better. Mid AAA budget. The best it can reasonably hope for is underperform.
>>738546420Keep in mind when talking about game revenue and performance is that the game doesn't have to just "earn back its cost" it has to ALSO outperform alternative investments and monetary inflation.100 million invested into a game or the stock marketafter 10 years the game returns 105 millionafter 10 years the stock market returns 215 millionWell, you'd be a fucking idiot for investing 100 million into a videogame, wouldn't you?This is what investors think and care about when they consider investing. So barely breaking even, or making a modest profit, is not good enough. Investors want their investments to be outperforming other vehicles they could've thrown their money into, and if they're not getting those returns, they're not going to reinvest.
