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name a game you regret not playing
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Plants vs Zombies
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>>738530829
it fell off once you got to the roof or whatever it was
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>>738530801
Pragmata
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>>738530801
Why would you regret not playing a videogame.
Just play it
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>>738530953
online games past their initial peak for example
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>>738531008
Why would you regret not playing love service slop?
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>>738530801
sleep tight hogger
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>>738530801
Mario 64

>>738530953
Gets harder as you get older and have more obligations.
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eve online
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>>738530801
Vanilla WoW. I didn't start playing till the end of BC.
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>>738531049
what is love service slop? this some new gen alpha terminology?
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>>738531138
gachaslop where the little pngs are written to say nice things to the player
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>>738531138
Love service is when your mom calls me to come over OWNED LMAO
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>>738531075
So how are you on 4chan? I thought you had too many obligations.
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>>738530801
I got into League of Legends way too late because I was listening to brainlets shitting on the current popular thing. Ended up starting in season 7 and played until season 11. Community is trash but the game shits on 90% of what /v/cucks worship as "cult classics" Ooooooo Mother such masterpiece wow! Fuck off faggots.
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>>738530801
Kinda wish I played Signalis around the time it came out when it was actively discussed
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>>738531254
>played League when it was already dogshit
imagine if you actually played peak Dota
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I never played Journey and feel like it's pointless to play alone.
It currently has ~50 concurrent players, not sure if that is enough to play it the intended way with meeting strangers out there and shit.
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>>738531434
it was good but nothing compared to peak counter strike (during old green steam)
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G-Loc Air Battle in an R360 Cabinet
I lived near an arcade that had it when I was a kid but was afraid of it at the time
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>>738530801
Destiny 2
All my friends played it and i missed the opportunity to game with them
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>>738530801
Jedi knight dark forces 2. I had it i just never played it because the series is named so retardedly
>dark forces
>jedi knight dark forces 2
>jedi knight 2 outcast
>jedi knight 2 jedi academy
I dont even know where mystery of the sith goes in this list because the naming is so retarded
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Every time I try to get into FFXIV I feel like I got in too late, especially with how basically every veteran player complains about how dumbed down the game is now.
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>>738530801
RE9, I don't know what's stopping me. I really enjoyed it for the couple hours I played it but now I feel I need to restart it and I don't feel like it.
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>>738530801
Rising Storm 2

I put 500 hours in Rising Storm and RO2, but by the time Rising Storm 2 came out my PC couldn't run it and I was too much a brokeboy to afford an upgrade.
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>>738530801
nothing really, I lived through the golden age of gaming and played a ton of stuff. The only game I probably regret playing is World of Warcraft cause that shit literally ruined my life lol
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>>738531075
>Gets harder as you get older and have more obligations.
unironically skill issue, i'm 42 and have less obligations than i ever have
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>>738530801
I was one of those anti-COD people during seventh gen consoles but now I wish I at least played MW1 and 2.
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>>738531840
OP didn't ask if you regret playing a game.
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>>738532013
and?
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I regret not having a video card when FFXI came out. That shit wouldve been a blast to play when it launched.
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wish i played more Monday Night Combat
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>>738530801
not a game per se, but never played the raids that are now cut from destiny 2 and I wish I had
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>>738531981
your dumb ass missed out, online lobbys were so fun with zero moderation
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>>738530801
I regret not having friends to play minecraft multiplayer when I had the time for it more than not playing something
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>>738530801
Phantasy Star Online looks like a game I'd love
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>>738530801
Men live like this and don't see the problem with it.
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>>738530801
I don't know. I haven't played it to know about regretting not playing it
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>>738532041
Stay on topic.
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Not playing more TLOU Factions or Lost Planet MP on the 360. I definitely played them a decent bit but honestly really have fond memories that I wish I just played way fucking more.
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the original ff7 during peak popularity
didnt have a playstation for myself
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>>738530801
Battlefield 2142 looked so fucking cool
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>>738530801
Can't but I regret not playing WC3 more when it was still popular.
Custom maps was peak gaming.
I was too bad to play ladder.
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>>738532529
ok
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>>738530801
FFXI
I'm subbed and play regularly now, but man I know I would've played it constantly if I 1. knew about it earlier on and also were not born in 96
Same for XIV 1.0, despite what everyone says, it still looks fun
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>>738531567
if you can't figure it out, you're the retarded one.
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>>738532649
You missed out. Strafing hover tanks and mechs were sweet.
It was kind of an in between transition from old battlefield to console battlefield where it was streamlined but still felt like a PC first game.
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>>738530801
I regret not being in /v/ when 7R was released.
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>>738530801
Overwatch
FF XIV (I did play it in 2021 but I wish I did sooner)
Mabinogi
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Super Smash Bros
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>>738530801
basically every old mmo
>too young for ultima, ff11, runescape, everquest, phantasy star and ragnarok
>gave up on wildstar before endgame
>didnt get into guild wars swtor or eso during their prime
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>>738530801
Helldivers 2. I'm sure the game is at the point in its life-cycle where the community chimps out if you don't know exactly what to do.
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>>738532082
Have a steam copy? we could get a thing going..
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morrowind. trying to play that shit after playing basically any other open world rpg is like trying to claw my eyes out with a used catheter. dunno how the fuck people stomached that combat back in the day
>b-but it uses tabletop rpg type stats, of course you're going to miss if your skill is low!
if i can aim the fucking weapon directly with my mouse I shouldn't be missing, it isn't a turn based game and that shit is gay as fuck
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>>738530801
I regret not buying Blur and Rocket League on Steam
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>Rollercoaster Tycoon 3
>Playboy The Mansion
>The Movies
>MAG
>Homefront
>Mafia 2
>James Bond Rogue Agent

I will play all those games except MAG, shit will never come back online
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>>738530801
Dark Souls 2.
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>>738531478
Honestly I'm extremely overrated game, I appreciate most of what it did but the campaign surrounding it made it out to be a transcendent experience and kind of ruins your expectations. Totally fine to just play it solo.
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>>738530953
it's not the same when you're older. the more you experience in life the less vidya hit the receptors and the more they just become a waste of time for you
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>>738534701
this.
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>>738530801
Transformers: Devastation. It got delisted from Steam and is never coming back.
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>>738531478
what the other poster said
Also, the whole "you need a companion!" only applies if you're female. Men can easily appreciate the first playthrough of journey offline
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>>738531008
This for me.
I was a big Delta Force Black Hawk Down fan, and played the shit out of the demo for Joint Operations, but never got to play the full game back when it was big, so I only got to enjoy a limited version of DF Battlefield. By the time I finally got a PS2 and MGS3, the online servers were shut down so I never got to play multiplayer MGS3. Never got to play RE:Outbreak back when the servers were full of people still learning the game, all that's left now is people who know the game inside out.
I'm glad I did get to experience UT1999 and BF1942 during their peaks, as well as America's Army 2.x and DF:BHD, but there's a lot of multiplayer games from that era I never got a chance to try out when they actually had players. The ones not completely shut down have a small core of hardcore players that make it unplayable for everyone else.
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>>738530801
Pokemon Black and White
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>>738530801
well I can still play most games but I do regret missing out on some of the early MMOs like Everquest and Ultima Online.

I also wish I traveled for tournaments back when fighting games were still good.
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>>738530801
Call of Duty
Im so alone now.
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>>738530801
Off the top of my head:
Anarchy Reigns when the PS3 servers were up
Dark Souls when co-op/PvP was still fresh
3D Dot Game Heros or specifically all the custom heroes other people and I could make. Some of them even got archived, but there was so much more like someone made a Link voxel hero that I loved to play as.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110907074556/http://www.3ddotgameheroes.com/hallofheroes/a-e.html

Technically you can play all of these games just fine since they aren't multiplayer only, but the multiplayer components added a lot and these games lost some semblance of soul when those servers shut down. Better than dying completely but not a positive development either.

>>738530953

You can't if it's a dead multiplayer game (or if the multiplayer aspect is dead). That's where the regret comes from. It can also come from not being part of the early wave of players to figure out some sort of mystery or meta before it becomes old news like with people trying to figure out La Mulana as they were playing it here.

There's a lot to not necessarily regret but wonder about in terms of how it could've been to ba a part of something cool and new, which really doesn't happen anymore. The last time I saw something like that for a game was either PT or people trying to put together the lore of Nier Automata. Either way, it was right before COVID happened and shit hasn't been the same ever since.
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>>738535314
Yea I started with 2 after emerald left a bad taste in my mouth, and that was a mistake. It was so good I wish I had milked it more.
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>>738534516
How did you understand the plot without 2?
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by choice? none
by circumstances? cp2077, metro, pregmata
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>>738530801
chromehounds
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I have never played a MMORPG. I think it would have ben fun playing WoW with my friends 20 years ago.
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>>738530936
>>738536576
just buy it you stupid neets
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>>738530801
Fallout 3
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>>738532260
And it has an abundance of ways to play in current year.
My pick would be Wizardry Online.
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Bloodborne but i wont buy ps3
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>>738534281
i mean honestly the lower difficulties dont really need you to be a metasweat. if you just put a couple hours in you'll have a pretty good sense of what to do
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>>738534427
>mad cuz bad
Every time.
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>>738530953
>Just play it
PC is too weak to play the game
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>>738531960
Based retard.
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>>738534427
Skill issue.
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>>738532082
>released an update that restricted players from joining games based on rank
>I got 5 stars
>zero lobbies in my region that allowed 5 stars
I will never not be mad.
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>>738530801
I remember being like this with xenoblade, it took a lot of years to finally give it a proper chance, and then i regretted not playing it sooner
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>>738531075
i have a shitload more free time now
>nolifed career in 20s
>friends all have wives and kids
if you stay single your life changes very little besides having more money
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Wild Pigs should be exterminated wherever they are found.
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>>738532649
It really was great in its heyday. The only time I ever messed around with clans was in 2142 for a sniper/knife only server clan
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>>738531075
>muh obligations
No you stupid fucker, it has nothing to do with obligations, you just don't feel like expending the effort to sit down and play something versus just doomscrolling or watching dogshit slop on some streaming service.
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>>738532082
this one hurts because I feel like the game wasn't even solved before it died. I was finding players using new strats in the last twilight weeks of it being online...
>HEYO HOT CHURROS IM SALIVATING
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>>738530801
Something recent or one of those HAD TO BE THERE games?

Because...nothing. I played the hits when they were new and anything recent i play like years later because it's too expensive day 1 or I have too much on my plate.
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MHO, it looked like shit but unlike MHFO nobody saved proper snapshots of it or they are unwilling to share making Private Servers impossible
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>>738537470
Are they not? My aunt lives in Arizona and makes it sound like it’s open season on javelina’s year round because they’ll walk right up on your porch/deck/patio with zero fear and are aggressive as hell.
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>>738537470
There are no wild pigs, they are feral pigs. Big difference, if you cage one and feed it it'll turn into a normal farm pig. The only states that fully ban owning them... are the ones they don't show up in anyway
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>>738530801
TF2.
1. I refused to install steam because game ownership autism
2. FPSs are for faggots
But I admit it is fun and the memes were awesome.
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>>738530801
I remember the dark souls hype back when it was new but I was too busy playing league back then.
I did play it eventually but I felt really late to the party.
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Mortal Kombat X
Dragon Ball FighterZ
Street Fighter 6

DBFZ especially pains me for missing out on it

>>738531075
It's overrated, don't worry about it
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>>738531491
1.4.....right?

Not Source...RIGHT?
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>>738531478
Play it on a weekend
I played it for the first time last weekend and i passed the end with a complete stranger. I thought i was playing with the same person this whole time, turns out there were like 6 different
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>>738530801
For me? Natural Selection 2. Played it only a little very late into its life and it seems like it was a lot of fun when there were still more than 10 active players
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>>738530801
Suikoden.
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>>738530801
Sekiro. Dismissed it for years because I like the Dark Souls pvp mostly. Bloodborne was amazing but it had no pvp and I was kinda down about it so I skipped Sekiro.
It hooked me on from the start and I got the Sekiro click in one of my first tries of Genichiro. What a fucking Masterpiece of a game. Now I want more single player experiences.
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>>738530801
Where did you find my son?! Tell me where my son is! Baku I am going to save you!
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FFXI
parents wouldn't buy me a sub since I was 8. took me a couple years after that to convince my parents to even get me a RS membership sub, then a couple more to get a WoW sub, by then it was too late
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>>738530953
The ones that don't know what fucking beautiful chaos that Pontiff invasion were with Aldrich Faithful, Red Phantoms, Grapes, Sunbros and blues just running around wouldn't know what they missed if they played now. Elden Ring comes close but the 4 player pvp limit and the huge favoritism for ganksquads really hurt the experience. That's not even getting into how bad the L2 spam has gotten. In a lot of invasions you stop playing Dark Souls and start playing Touhou with the amount of bullshit they throw aat you
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>>738530801
I played CSS and Tribes but I wish I put in more hours during their heyday
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demon souls
my PS3 got stolen
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planetside 2 at its peak
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>>738530801
Persona 4 and Witcher 3
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>>738532260
Based
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>>738530801
Yakuza, that new game trailer made me want to play the entire thing, but
>10 games to catch up
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>>738532082
For me it is pic related
>All kinds of movement options from grappling to diving to rollerskatting
>Different body types effected things like recoil control, health, hit boxes
>Plenty of unique guns and weapons
>Quirky but in character banter
I only wish I was able to afford xbox live back then. I know it is still around but I heard it is filled with hackers
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>>738530801
Ragnarok Online
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>Tribes
>Everquest
>Ultima Online
>Titanfall 2
>MGSO
>Chromehounds
>Oni when the mp hack dropped
that's all
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>>738530953
/thread.
All it takes is a decent pc. Then you can play literally almost every videogame in existence.
I missed out on N64 Zelda games, but I managed to emulate them and enjoy them like its late 90s once I built my pc
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>>738530801
The new Tomodachi. I been fatigued of "cozy" games but still caved because of pressure to share miis with my friends, but it was not a good idea to play this game right now and i'm 0 in the mood to continue
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>>738530801
Metal arms: Glitch in the system
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>>738531065
Smorc
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>>738530801
star wars galaxies
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>>738530801
Russian Roulette
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>>738530801
Silksong, I really didn't enjoy it after the first act. Appreciate the craftsmenship but all I feel after the credits is apathy.
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>>738530801
PSO, I played some online demo years and years ago and had fun. Never touched it again but I wish I did
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>>738531081
u didn't miss anything. 12 hours per day watching your ship fly around aimlessly. boring combat. the offline progression was about the only cool thing about it.
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>>738530801
PSO
Resident Evil Outbreak
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>>738530953
>meanwhile mmo fans
we literally cant
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>>738535732
>Anarchy Reigns when the PS3 servers were up
that shit was pretty much dead at launch too.
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>>738530801
Hydro Thunder: Hurricane
I didn't have a 360. I played the shit out of Hydro Thunder at the arcade, getting to play online woulda been fuckin lit even if Hurricane wasn't exactly the same.
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>>738530801
I wish I'd got into TF2 earlier than Love and War. Also, peak VRchat looked hilarious in all the videos, like something from an older era of internet.
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gmod gangwarsrp, turned DarkRP into an MMO with missions, PvE content and upgradable skills/items. shit seems dead and gone forever now but crafting rares in that was fun.
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>>738530801
I think Lost Planet and Evolve are up on that list. I never got a chance to try though, so technically not my fault.
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>>738530953
>be me now
>watch a fun video that has anthem in the background
>seems nice
>cant play it
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>>738548374
I did. You didn't miss out on anything. It sucked ass and felt horrible to play.
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Tribes ascend
Natural selection 2
Skullgirls

I played a bit of blacklight retribution but not as much as I should have
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>>738546064
I played a good amount online, any everyone was either useless or a god with no in-between.
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name a game you regret playing
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>>738548780
the game
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I'd kill to play prime TF2
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>>738548664
That's not surprising, very common for racing games. Expected, even. But I still regret never getting to experience it.
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>>738548852
Whats sad is that all the devs need to do is remove the overwatch matchmaking and play now shit. Force people to use the server browser again.
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>>738548847
damn you
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>>738530801
Steel Battalion
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Sworn. Gave it a chance because I enjoyed Hades and did not like it. Game is dogshit.
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>>738548780
lost in vivo, utter dogwank snoozefest on almost every single level, never finished it
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>>738530801
Pokemon Black and White 2
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roblox
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>>738530801
kronii
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>>738551214
Same. It'd been at least half a year since I last lost.
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>>738530801
Right now i think FFXIV is dogshit and it won't become good no matter what they do.

I played it from 2.2 all the way to DT.

My regret is not sticking with 1. It was a really shit game no doubt about it. But never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined such a gigantic rebrith of the game. I regret not being there seeing dalmud grow bigger and the servers go offline.

That basically the only game I actually regret not playing.
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I remember someone in my dorms playing Diablo 2 in 2003 and thinking "that looks fun, but its pretty outdated, no ones gonna play it in another year"
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helldivers 2 right after release
>good performance
>peak fun
>chaotic
>no bullshit balances
>no swedish tricks
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>>738548780
Ragnarok Online.

Never did a game feel so perfect, so well constructed, with such good mechanics, progression, sandboxing, itemization, stats management.

If only they had thought it through and had done leagues like with Path of Exile and kept their horizontal itemization and progression.

Instead they chased the endgame meme, the WoW style progression and the dogshit that is adding more classes.

Now I have this game forever burned in my mind as something I want back but no devleoper or IP has ever delivered. Unironically Path of Exile is what RO was, except is not an MMO sadly.
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>>738553385
I was there. it was honestly great. then they started nerfing and I just never came back
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>>738530801
i wish i did not miss out on handhelds like vita ds/3ds because i ended up liking some of the games i played later on
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>>738530801
Blood Omen 2
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>>738530801
Foxhole at the very start
nowadays I don't dare to touch it, probably get reported by some clan the millisecond I log in amd banned
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I've seen this thread all day and I still don't understand what OP meant and I'm not willing to read the thread. I am /v/ by the way, VERY confusing.
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>>738548780
All of them. Should've spent my time doing something useful.
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MH4U.
I played 3U a year or 2 after release thought it was awesome but I hated the idea of playing on 3ds so I didn't bother.
Now I wish I did because I missed out on an active MH kino.
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>>738530801
It used to be Runescape, but it became really fucking gay so now I'm glad I didn't waste my life on that shit.
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>>738530801
not "regret" as per se, but I'll forever be curious about WoW at its peak
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>>738530801
I don't suffer from this because I can structure my time in a way to where I can handle my responsibilities and have fun.
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>>738558174
actually you're a failure manchild who can't do anything and you can't refute this since no matter what you post you'll be seen as defensive
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>>738558290
>you can't refute this since no matter what you post you'll be seen as defensive
oh yeah? What if I post this.
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>>738530801
Star Fox Zero

I owned it but never played past the first level, and now I won't get to play it ever again
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kotor
i remember hearing about it on xplay and when i picked it out at eb games when i went to the mall with my mom the kid at the register was like
>oh you won't like that. it's turn based combat
can't get into it now even though i like dnd
>>738531117
the era from vanilla to the end of wotlk was peak. i don't even remember what they did after that.
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Would have been nice to play quake during the heyday.
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>>738548780
any lootbox shooter or friendslop
overwatch
pubg
counter strike kinda. been playing that for 20 years and i still suck at it and just get flamed the whole time because i don't spend my whole life looking up guides on how to play good to get out of gold nova
flavor of the month co op games you convince your friends to spend $35 on and you just play it a couple of times
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>>738558396
I'm with you
that's a compelling counter argument and my faith in you to exceed in your aspirations is rock solid
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Im 39 and have been able to enjoy the majority of what I missed out on in teenage years. What I really miss is just being inside arcades more and forming local arcade groups. You can find more than enough time to play whatever game you want.
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>>738530801
Titanfall.
EA is boycotted and the rest of you are cattle the company must die along with ubisoft
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>>738548374
this is the reason I entered the thread
I regret not playing it immensely, even if people say it sucked. i dont care about the story, i just wanted the gameplay
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>>738530801
the classicvania games when i was younger. i played SC4 and bloodlines for the first time last year and...fucking WOW. i would have been beyond obsessed with them if i got into them. and to a lesser extent SOTN, but i didn't like that one as much inverted castle blows
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Castlevania Harmony of Despair
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>>738559809
The gameplay was awful as well. They totally phoned it in, there's a reason the game died instantly. It did not deliver on the Iron Man fantasy.
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It's not easy picking up Morrowind nowadays.

Oblvion was my first Elder Scrolls and even that's not easy to replay.
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>>738530801
Why would I regret not playing something? I could just play it.
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>>738530801
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King when it was rising in popularity. Same with Diablo & Starcraft.

Bloodborne

Other than those nothing else really. I'm quite fond of not having too much of my time dedicated to vidya on the other hand.
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>>738534701
Arrested development chads don't have this problem
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>>738531075
get back to work unc, 4chan is distracting you from your obligations
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>>738531008
The only online games you could ever regret not playing online would be something like Ultima Online, Quake, CS (and other early mods like Firearms and DoD) during the beta phase back in 1999, Battlefield 1942, various C&C games, Starcraft before it got popular, and maybe some other old shit. I mean, that whole online scene when it was the wild west, and before it became all gay and corporate was fucking fantastic, but that shit's well over two decades old, so what's the point of pining over that?
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>>738560558
I'd have to say wow too, but I wish I wasn't a poor fag and I played TBC and WOTLK retail instead of private servers where fucking unholy DK was essentially broken the whole expansion. You could spec into coil, but if I remember properly the gargoyle wasn't coded right or something.
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obviously this thread doesnt apply to single player games

i havent really played online multiplayer since like 2008

i probably didnt miss much skipping all those call of dutys, overwatch, fortnite, arc raiders, etc

mmorpgs always seem like the coolest thing until i play them and immefiately remember why i dont play mmos.
asherons call, star wars galaxies, old republic, FF11, FF14, eso, etc

theres a few dead mobile games that i probably wouldnt have enjoyed that much since i dont play mobile shit but it still sucks theyre basically lost media at this point
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>>738534947
Even men can appreciate a friend picking you up and carrying you further when you've already given all you've got and collapsed
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>>738560740
>instead of private servers where fucking unholy DK was essentially broken the whole expansion.
I think I managed to hear about Death Knight hax back when I was just browsing Bungie.net for Halo stuff. Even some IRL friends (or I guess acquaintances) would complain about it. Goes to show how controversial it was. Can't comment about the rest though.
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>>738559854
Inverted Castle does indeed blow. Not bad but just filler. Play Chronicles. It's my favorite Classicvania.
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Launch TF2
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games I'd see in game informer
like quake 4 and tiberium wars
or
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>>738561659
no it's all brazilians now
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Ragnarok online.
I know it's back now but I don't feel I will have the same kind of fun "extracted" out of it as I would have as a kid.
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It would have probably been cool to play the arkham games around when they came out and yes I was gaming back then but only found these games in last year or two.
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Man, I fucking miss the old days of gaming and the internet. Well, not even the old days, but the late 90s and early 2000s.
The sense of discovery, passion and following technology as it evolved and drastically improved over the course of just a couple of years was just fantastic.
I don't even play games anymore, partially because I've just outgrown it, primarily because woke ideology killed it, but also because the whole thing just became... shit. Or gay. Or corporate. And modern gamers are fucking obnoxious little shits.
I dunno, I hate ragging on something because it became mainstream, but that really did kill all the excitement in gaming. By the late 2000s, it just became boring, because most genres were established, MMOs turned out to be shit and filled with awkward nerds, technology stopped improving that much and the wonder of what games could actually become disappeared, because we'd more or less reached the limits of technology, outside of graphics. There were still some exceptions here and there, like Mountain Blade, Dwarf Fortress, early Rimworld, X3 and other shit I can't remember, but it kinda just stopped being exciting as we drifted into the 2010s. VR temporarily reignited my hope, and I got a Vive, but that all turned out to be a dud.
Eh...
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>>738548374
The flying was cool but that was about it. The rest of the game was shit. Cool world, but the game was half-baked and doomed to fail from the start.
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>>738548780
Oblivion



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