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Why was I told Starfield was bad? I think it's pretty awesome. Probably my favorite Beth cgame since Morrowind.
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>>738541486
>Why was I told Starfield was bad? I think it's pretty awesome. Probably my favorite Beth cgame since Morrowind.
because it is bad jeet.
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>>738541593
Nah, I think /v/ was wrong about this one.
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>>738541825
Well thankfully, your standards for video games are extremely low.
One day in the future, you'll try to replay "this beloved classic" and say "Holy shit this game sucks".
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Remember that one jeet desperately spamming every thread about pic related that it was an "Ugly NPCs mod"?
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>>738541980
You didn't even play this game.

>>738542103
Most of the vanilla NPCs are ugly but you might find a good looking NPC here and there.

Honestly though? It feels kinda realistic to me. When I walk through any American city, I mostly see brown trash everywhere and every now and again I'll see a normal looking white person.

It's funny to me because Cyberpunk tries to show this dystopic future, but Starfield captures it much better.
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>>738542523
>he can't even imagine himself a world without niggers and shitskins
Genuine pajeet
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>>738542103
Todd simply warned us. Don't hate the messenger.
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>>738542523
Yeah, I don't play trash. Glad you noticed from my single post.
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>>738541825
>I think /v/ was wrong about this one.
Probably, /v/ is just millennial schizos
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>>738542607
I said no such thing.

Can you brownoids even play Starfield? With all the menus and shit. I know that tends to confuse you brownoids. I noticed the same thing with Crimson Desert. "It's too complicated waaaaa!" Games that are made specifically for white people seem to make you brownies cry in confusion because a menu within a menu breaks your pathetic brains.

>>738542894
Glad you admitted it. Just an npc who agrees with perceived /v/ consensus kek.
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>>738541486
>Female PC
And why should I care about your opinions?
*flicks bugger at you*
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>>738542989
I can look at the game and know that it's empty open world bullshit. I'm sorry that there's two options and I happened to pick the one you don't like.
Either the game is good or it's not. You have no taste so you think the game is good and that's okay. You'll either come around one day and realize your mistake or you'll exit the hobby quietly.
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It's a pretty fucking boring game my dude.
land on one planet, do couple of POIs and you've seen every planet outside the handcrafted ones.
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>>738541486
The hate was always overblown in my opinion. It has its great moments, but it really is also bogged down by frustrating mechanics that wastes your time and buggy shit that doesn't work.
It's the quintessential 7.5/10 game
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>>738542103
Did they ever fix this shit?
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>>738542989
You are playing it as a photography simulator, not as an RPG, or a real video game, you just install mods to make your doll look pretty then pose them in the big empty boring worlds. Of course you enjoy it, you love worthless slop. But you can get the same 'gameplay' by just ai generating images and you'd be just as satisfied to jerk off to those
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>>738543793
Name 3 great moments
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It's objectively a great game.

Anyone who doesn't think so is either an nvtranny or someone so lacking in cognitive ability they actually fell for the nvtranny gaslighting.
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>>738544152
Alright, explain what's great about it
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>>738541486
Starfield is the worst game I have ever had the misfortune of wasting my life playing. It is the second-worst written game I have ever played after Borderlands 3. It has the ugliest NPCs, the most tame, corporate, dead world, the most boring quests, the most boring exploration, and a plot which could literally be summarized in 3 words: "Find the artifacts." Starfield is not just a bad game; it is an insult to players everywhere and the equivalent of psychological terrorism to recommend that others play it.
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>>738544242
uuhhh brb Ill reply for sure though
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>>738541486
Bait used to be believable.
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what mods r u using
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>>738543592
>land on one planet, do couple of POIs and you've seen every planet outside the handcrafted ones.
It is pretty jarring going from a handcrafted planet like Cheyanne to randomly generated planets. The handcrafted planet tends to have more creatures on it, more biodiversity, more interesting geography, and everything seems to actually fit together (no weird giant pink plant that doesn't fit at all and ruins the landscape). I feel like the best space game, which we've yet to get, will focus entirely on 1 star system and it will be 7-9 handcrafted planets/moons, rather than 16,000,0000 trillion worthless random gen planets which is what the space game devs are obsessed with.

>>738543097
>I prefer looking at dudes
I get ya.
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>>738541486
You...cant...even...choke people out dude...cmon it's fucking 2026!!!!!! Ffs Bethesda you already made dishonored how the fuck is your stealth so shit!!!!!
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>>738544006
1. gunplay is pretty solid and feels good, whether you're jetpack-bombing enemies from above with a nade launcher or stealth-SMG clearing a room
2. landing in a random planet and finding a beautiful scenic spot
3. using your knowledge of the previous playthrough to outmaneuver your enemies' plans or persuade an NPC in a speech check, and the game lets you do that
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>>738544426
You are incorrect, there are no handcrafted planets, even the DLC planet is proc gen copy paste POI's between the handcrafted locations
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>>738541486
Hold up! Everyone shut up. OP, is this YOUR pussy-haver?! Because HAMINA HAMINA!!! Delectable! She inspires in me the most mournful depravity known to man!!! First order of business is, naturally, cataloging in excruciating detail the precise aromas and flavors of her waste disposing holes…
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I am a stealth Chad, the stealth is shit what do you want me to do? I don't want to get into fire fights all the fuckin time, I WANT OPTIONS
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>>738544242
I'll let you know when I play it.

But I know for a fact it's a great game because Bethesda hasn't not made a great game in literally decades and the screeching of nvtrannies doesn't change that fact.
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>>738544519
1. Gunplay is mediocre, below industry standard and is still just bullet sponges. The guns are bare minimum responsive and the enemy AI isn't good enough to really do anything more than it did in fallout 3
2. It's all proc gen, you're as likely to get a nice looking landing spot as a shitty one even if you land on the same planet on the same place in two different playthroughs because it's inconsistent and you're still going to get times you land near an ancient undiscovered alien temple 12 feet from a settlement and 20 feet from where you landed so that point is moot.
3. You can't really use your knowledge of what's going to happen in your first playthrough, that's only a new game plus feature, and it doesn't change anything substantial enough to be worth anything. New game plus will give you maybe a handful of scenes, and maybe you get an interesting one when you first walk into constellation, but you're still just going to to find the relics again with no change.
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>>738544542
You didn't play the game. Bethesda clearly spent more time on the story-related planets. This is the same planet as the last screenshot I posted. You can go from a savannah region with dinosaurs to a forest region with bugs. There's like 15+ different creatures I've spotted on this planet. Going to random planets doesn't have this much going on.
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>>738544816
So you, someone who hasn't played it, says it's great, me, someone who bought the special edition to get early access, says it's boring, empty, and lifeless and worse than 76 is wrong?
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>>738544921
It doesn't matter if you played it or not. Your perception of reality has been warped by nvtranny gaslighting. Your opinion doesn't mean anything.
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Okay I’ll get starfield if there is a sex mod framework but if there isn’t I will not purchase it or pirate it lol :)
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>>738544921
>expecting a 2016+ newfag trannyspammer to behave in good faith
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>>738543884
Yeah like 2 years ago
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>>738544829
I disagree with point 1. I've never had a moment where guns weren't responsive and the enemies do try to maneuver around you and try to take you on from the flanks. It's at least far better than FO3, where pointing right at something and shooting didn't work half the time and you really had to use VATS to fight.

2 and 3, all you're really doing is listing other moments where it wasn't so nice, which I don't disagree. But neither of these contradict the moments where it WAS nice, which is what you asked me to name.
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>>738544921
The problem is, Bethesda should have finished the ground vehicles before releasing the game. The distance between the POIs doesn't matter as much any more if you have a cool ass space jeep with rockets to get around on. The fact that they expected you to walk between these POIs with very little do it in between was their biggest miscalculation.
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>>738545272
You point and shoot and the thing you pointed at got shot, good job, it's the same shooting as fallout 4 and fallout 76 so obviously you'd say those had great gunplay too right?
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>>738541486
>gooner says game is good because he can make his OC donut steel waifu with mods
Fucking retard
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>>738545334
>You point and shoot and the thing you pointed at got shot, good job
So what's unresponsive or barely responsive about that?
What's your criteria for something that's very responsive and above industry standards?
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>>738541486
I only vaguely remember trying to play it on release but there were load screens all over the place, or other things that interrupted gameplay.
I also remember that wild west look alike town with a hostage situation, one of the NPCs told me they'd handle it so I parked my character there and went cooking. When I got back nothing had happened, that was a big disappointment desu.
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>>738544263
I thought the Hunter was a pretty cool character.
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>>738545438
The recoil, the sound, there's a lot that goes into making gunplay feel good. Bethesda doesn't nail that, they make a gun make a gun sound and bullet go where you point it. Nothing more, the bare minimum to be functional, not something to be proud of. It's like saying Minecraft has melee combat on the level of Mordhau
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>>738545334
"Gunplay" doesn't exist and never did.

There's cool looking guns. There's cool sound effects. There's cool particle effects. There's cool looking enemy animations when they get shot. But every game with guns is always just you point and click. There's not much else you can do with "gunplay".
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>>738545547
The enemies hardly react to being shot in Starfield, there's no depth to the gunplay, you just magdump an enemy until it dies. Maybe it'll run for cover while you're mag dumping it
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>>738545543
I love when a game nails the heaviness and gunshot sounds, but Starfield never was a "gun porn" type of game so I'm not sure how relevant those are in this type of game.
Those are things that make you feel good while shooting, not more responsive. So I still don't know what you meant by Starfield lacking that
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>>738545642
Enemies in FEAR barely react to getting shot too and yet /v/ considers it one of the greatest FPS ever made with excellent gunplay.
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>>738544645
Stealth works if you are far away enough but the enemies seem to gain a sixth sense about your whereabouts when you are up close. It's weird because Bethesda did the stealth archer build so well for Skyrim. Did Bethesda believe it made the game too easy or something? It's simply a satisfying way to play the game.

For this game, I just snippy snipe whoever I can then go running in for clean up with a shotgun. Would love it if there were some super silent crossbow that enemies couldn't hear at all though for up close and personal stealth.
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There's a mod you can get that lets you build up a starfleet (ships follow you and assist you in space combat). Peak comfy. I can't believe Bethesda didn't just set this up themselves.
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I stopped playing when I got attacked by space pirates but I accidentally pressed the "get out of cockpit" button prompting an unskippable animation of my character slowly getting his fat ass out of a cockpit with zero urgency while getting shot at.
Before I could even turn around and get back to my cockpit one of those annoying followers started a conversation that I COULD NOT exit, and guess what he wanted to tell me, I'm sure you can guess.
It was him coming out to me, in the most jilted, HR approved dialogue. One that I buttoned mashed to skip, but kept prompting me to give encouraging responses to before we inevitably got shot down.

And even if we weren't in a dogfight and were having a heart to heart at a seaside cafe, I still couldn't buy this half assed coming out conversation. What grow ass man needs to bring that up. It sounded more like Disney channel shit where they wanted to show how a (totally non molested child) would come out to a parent and how a parent should respond in a guided manner.

This game was made not with a development guideline, but with a manual written by a committee of investors, consultants and HR. It's beyond fucking weak. I got more enthusiasm and passion from a McDonald's orientation video.

and since ops wants to be a fucking smart ass and say this didn't happen, here's PROOF it happens.
https://youtu.be/xe7QdVkcs6A?si=zzodbE0Ytk2-lq3o

If this game was stripped of all NPCs, all quests and just left as a roblox or minecraft sandbox where you make shit with tools. That would be worthwhile. But as it stands I have to build out the game from a fucking AIDS CLINIC
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>>738547128
It would be too complicated for the browns. You have to procure the ship yourself. You need to hire a recruit with piloting training. You need to assign them to the specific ship. Just imagine the brownoid seething when they can't figure all that out.

The reason all video games are simplified garbage today and why no complex systems are allowed is because we allowed all the browns of the world to enter our country and now we have to always consider "will this confuse the browns?"
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>>738547856
>I stopped playing when I got attacked by space pirates but I accidentally pressed the "get out of cockpit" button prompting an unskippable animation of my character slowly getting his fat ass out of a cockpit with zero urgency while getting shot at
Kek, I've done this so many times. It doesn't help that picking up items, hailing others and getting up is the same button, just a matter of if you press or hold a little bit.
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>>738547856
>no option to say "Get away from me, faggot! I don't want to catch the aids!"
Disappointing.

It's funny to me that RPGs will often allow you to be evil and greedy and wantonly murder and so on but won't allow you to be a bigot.
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>>738548112
That's why ME1 is so good. They even give you a space nazi alien-scum hating gf companion.
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>>738548232
Except no because she calls that political party, who I actually agree with and are not bigots in any way, a bunch of bigots.
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>>738548345
Are we both talking about Gunnery Chief Ashley Williams?
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>>738541486
No person could possibly share such awful taste, so you were never told a relatable sentiment. Gravity is free and rope is cheap btw.
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It's one of those times where the game has nothing of value, and when that happens I just drop the difficulty to the rock bottom, then I gave myself the old earth shotgun, infinite ammo and health and I just ran through pirate camps shotgunning everything point blank like some terminator.

What amazes me was when I started using console commands to add levels and this fucking game is so poorly balanced, having a jetpack is a side skill so far down the skill tree it may as well take 60 hours to get.
Think of that, a fucking jetpack, you'd think it would be a major gameplay element where entire levels are dedicated to using it - but NO.

The only things shills have are screenshots of the skybox, which isn't even fucking good because EVE online blows it out the water from 10 years ago.

Bethesda is dead.
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>>738548604
>Brownie got filtered by Kinofield
many such cases
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>>738541486
>>738541593

Better or worse than fallout 4? I´ll be playing one of those next.
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>>738548462
Yes. She hates Terra Firma and calls them "racists" and gets angry when you imply her viewpoints are in line with theirs.
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>>738548658
I only started playing the game this year, but the jetpack skill is now an early tier talent. You can even pick a starting class that pre-learned the jet pack skill.
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>meet cute black girl over discord
>been chatting with her for a while
>connect hard over anime and vidya
>she asks if I wanna become a thing with her
>say yes
>a few days pass, having a good time hanging out
>then I hear it
>*chirp*
>realize I'm dating an actual beeping american
I don't know what to do now. What the fuck. I thought it was a meme.
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>>738548763
Starfield is the game FO4 should have been. Multiple major cities you can visit that have their own feel to them. Varied landscapes. Disgusting monstrous freaks all around.

FO4 just doesn't feel like it's got enough going on. There's Diamond City and there's the criminal run city with the ghoul mayor but that's it. I feel like FO4 should have been bigger and more sprawling.
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>>738541486
>Why was I told Starfield was bad
Because it was dogshit on release and the mod community wasn't built yet. Any game that requires mods to be good, is shit.
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>>738549656
Watch as this interviewer slowly realizes she's talking to a literal monkey

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L6lEk-p-VfI
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>>738549995
why do they all do this? I don't understand. She's actually intelligent too. What the fuck.
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>>738544242
nta but it has a great shipbuilder and the dogfighting is fun and satisfying. crippling an enemy craft's engine to allow for hostile boarding is a nice touch, as is the ability to destroy their grav drive and then fight on board in zero-G. the gunplay is arguably the best BGS had ever done, the sequence of looking-aiming-shooting is butter smooth and satisfying. it also has a novel NG+ system that acts as a built-in save cleaner to extend the longevity of your save file. the character builder is the best one BGS ever made, with fun backgrounds and traits that offer tangible variations between playthroughs. the persuasion system is fun and unique, probably the best they've done. some of the cooler and more memorable quests that BGS has done - i find crimson fleet and UC vanguard stand above the others, but there are good one-offs like the settlement full of cloned historical figures, or jumping between realities and saving the one guy from certain doom (then recruiting him onto your crew). it's far from perfect, like the actual written dialogue is horrendously bad and full of millenialisms and quips and the cities (while impressively big for bethesda) are still mogged by CDPR's cities, for example. but yeah, i agree with anon, the game is great.
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>>738549814
>Any game that requires mods to be good, is shit.
I disagree with that sentiment. If it's good with mods then it's good.
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>>738550215
I get not changing the smoke alarm batteries. The only reason we all have those things is government mandated them. But I don't understand why they don't take the batteries out to stop the chirping if they're not going to bother replacing them.
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x4, star sector, elite dangerous, even fucking no mans sky and star citizen are better space games.

i genuinely feel sorry for starfield shills because i this is probably their first space game ever.
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>>738550387
Maybe it's an insurance thing.
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>>738550441
Nah. I want to land on a planet and blow up some space pirates. I want to find derelict ships and fight the ayylmaos that killed the crew. I enjoy those other games, but I also want a space game that isn't a turbo-autist game. Just give me the beat for beat action shit.
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>>738549778

I´ve read criticism towards Starfield over it´s randomly generated planets. People say Fallout 4 art style and level design is more consistent and purposeful.
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>>738550846
starfield sets the bar so low for space enjoyers its really fucking sad anon.
theres a plethora of better space games out there that do the fighting pirate ships and aliens better. also, i enjoyed new vegas and skyrim have 1000s of hours on those games, but i genuinely from the bottom of my heart think starfield is a pile of dogshit and bethesda's engine should stay far fucking away from space simulations.
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>>738541486
>>738541825
>>738542989
I have AGP fatigue.
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>>738551692
fallout 4 is a single handcrafted map with a very specific environment and style.
starfield is a handful of semi-randomly generated sets surrounded by randomly generated uninteresting landscapes in randomly generated styles.
Even the few big key cities are surrounded by randomly generated emptiness.
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>>738541486
It's certainly one of bethesda better games, especially after the turd that was Fallout 4 it is a HUGE step up from that.

You got branching questlines, tons of skill checks in dialogue, no fucking garbage dialogue wheel or voiced protag bullshit, you start as a blank slate, skills that are meaningful upgrades, bigger cities - even though they are still comparatively small.

Negatives are the extreme amount of DEI bullshit, homosexuals outnumbering normal couples 4 to 1, tons of black women in leadership roles all over the goddam place. The handcrafted locations are too small (except dazra), which makes exploration pretty boring (considering this is a strong suit of beth games this is pretty bad), and of course lack of overall gameplay depth, but that is par for the course these days.

I do enjoy it a lot though, with mods that is. Skyrim had more fun exploration but other than that this game is their best since morrowind, but that was a different time, before goddamn quest markers.
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Fuck off, you wop bastard.
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>>738552078
I enjoy Elite Dangerous a lot, but it doesn't do everything Starfield does. And Starfield doesn't do everything ED does either. I enjoy both. I don't get why I need to hate the more popular thing just because it makes you cool to hate stuff or something.
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>>738548763
there is no game worse than F4 on the fucking planet, the only game I ever dropped because I felt insulted by it. It's a game that assumes you are an absolute idiot that likes eating trash and treats you as such, fuck that game.
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>>738553232
So shitty exploration and Sweet baby approved?
Guess the writing is really good to make up for all that
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>>738541486
Have modders fixed the game yet
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>>738553508
don't remind me, I thought wow finally a beth game not held back by console limitations, can't wait to see what they do with it, then I discovered diamong "city", I'd rather play oblivion with it's dead open world than this turd.
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>>738553232
Yup. FO4 was a huge disappointment for me. Starfield is a return to form.

It's not a perfect game of course, far from it, and the DEI is a huge problem. There's a mod that replaces all the NPCs with better looking NPCs but I heard it can be quite buggy and unstable. I might try it out anyway on an alternate save file just to see how it holds up.
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>>738553543
I'm judging it mostly as a beth game and compare it to their other entries, in which case it is a step up, but the writing is still beth writing, so it is very shallow and the worldbuilding kinda sucks.
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>>738553651
modders gave up after realizing how shit it is
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>>738554030
meme's aside, the real reason is that beth went ahead with paid mods for this game, which split the modding community, there are tons of mods in their ingame mod shop...
strange that so few people talk about this, it's probably the worst part about this game.
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>>738551692
Idk FO4 is just a waste of time for me. Even FO76 played as a single player game is better than FO4.
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>>738542523
>Honestly though? It feels kinda realistic to me. When I walk through any American city, I mostly see brown trash everywhere and every now and again I'll see a normal looking white person.
>It's funny to me because Cyberpunk tries to show this dystopic future, but Starfield captures it much better.
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>>738541486
>my favorite Beth cgame since Morrowind
well that explains it, you have shit taste
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>>738541486
Their favorite eceleb said it was bad.
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>>738553651
Name one thing about Starfield that ever needed to be fixed besides extremely minor bugs.
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The in-game npcs being excited to go eat CHUNKS! is a way more poignant satire of the dystopia we live in than all the various sex shops in Cyberpunk combined.

>Hey, wanna go grab a chunks?
>omg! I was waiting for you to say that! Let's go!
>Hey aren't you guys worried about what that stuff is actually made of?
>No!
>No!
>....ok....
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>>738554282
The reason is that people don't care enough about generic space slop to create mods for it. Elder Scrolls and Fallout get modders because people like the IP. Nobody is a fan of Starfield lore.
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>>738555457
NTA but there does seem to be an active modding community on Starfield. It's no where near as big as Skyrim but that is to be expected.
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>>738555457
Not having any aliens was a mistake.
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>>738555457
nope, just a shitload of internal drama and people wanting to sell their shitty mods.
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>>738555356
NTA but starting from day one I said Starfield needed a land vehicle and Bethesda has apparently delivered on it since then, so.... yeah... I am pretty happy with Starfield now lol.
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Game aside, i kind of miss those memes with Todd, Gigachad and Liam Neeson
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>>738555605
Well there are aliens, they're just all of the monster/animal variety.

There's ONE instance of a human woman you can encounter who's had her mind taken over by alien parasites and she tries to drug you and cannibalize on you, but this is a one off chance encounter.

They could easily have done a "First Encounter" type DLC where we actually meet some form of intelligent life out there but everyone has decided to hate Starfield, so Bethesda won't commit to such a project any more.
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>>738541486
What other game allows you to RP as a space pirate, a mercenary, an industrialist, and explorer or fleet commander like Starfield? None. No other game comes close. This is why so many salty haters can't stop talking bad about Starfield.
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>>738553508
>>738553232
>>738554867

IDK guys, the art style of Fallout 4 is cool and town building and crafting feel good, entertaining and meaningful. There is plenty of veriety too.
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>>738555605
The worldbuilding in Starfield is boring and uninspired
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>>738556023
Completely false. Starfield captures the essence of a futuristic interstellar dystopia flawlessly. You probably have a pretty low IQ and think that worldbuilding just means pretty lights (which Starfield already has).
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>>738556086
>futuristic interstellar dystopia
this, there is a reason there is not a single child playing on this playground in New Atlantis, they went "you want faggots everywhere? sure, but we will also portray the consequences of it"
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>>738544006
>in space in sol system
>get a radio call
>dude asks me if I know where uranus is
>giggles and tells me it's right behind me
I wanted to get stuck into living the space drifter dream, wandering around and taking missions from the kiosks in the bars but my tism tingled whenever it kicked me out of 1st person for ship takeoff and landings and doors so I finished it and moved on.
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>>738555457
the only reason people mod Fallout is because of slavery sex mods, the fallout setting gets old very very fast.
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>>738541486
Because it was not on the PS5
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>>738541486
it starts off okay but once you've explored the same location for the third time and realize there's only like 12 different places to explore in the whole game it gets pretty tedious.
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>>738556586
This. Snoys are like 60% of this board.

Now it seems like we're getting more of these "wait? Starfield is maybe actually good? KINOfield! KINOfield!" posts kek right on cue.
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>>738556681
The actual quests and handplaced content are decent, all the procgen slop and empty planets are extremely boring wastes of time.
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>>738553450
im just one of thousands of bethesdatroons that was hooked into skyrim, fallout 3, new vegas, but was IMMENSELY let down by starfield.
I will NEVER stop shitting on todd and his dogshit faggot space game. after oblivion remastered, i think the majority of the masses finally opened their eyes and realized that bethesda was never that good to begin with and that they got lucky and caught lightning in a bottle skyrim dropped.
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i thought modders would fix this game?
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>>738556949
Ehh. Base game, with no mods, I think Oblivion is vastly superior to Skyrim.

Morrowind > Starfield > Oblivion > FO3 = Skyrim > FO4

New Vegas is equal to Morrowind.
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>>738541486
Nah Starfield is great, it's the same situation like crimson desert, E33, Elden Ring, BG3 and other games where there's a dedicated amount of anti shills of hate good games for it on /v/.
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>>738555985
If FO4 was a little bit bigger, had 2 more cities the size of Diamond City, another tier of weaponry above the pipe weapon garbage, etc.... just MORE.... I would consider it good. Even with the shitty storyline.
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>>738541486
>brainlets jumped into the game and started spamming Radiant quests and POI’s instead of the genuinely Kino Faction Quests and Side Quests. (POI’s were also repetitive in the pre PS5 beta)
>game has a massive learning curve and throws you into New Atlantis for a LONG time before you get going. This filtered a lot of people too.
>people are just plain weird about Bethesda these days.

I’m about 80 Hours into my PS5 playthrough and it’s one of the best games I’ve ever played. I’ve just come to accept I’m very intelligent and have great taste, and others do not. I’m truly grateful Todd had a vision and followed through with it.
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>>738557592
It's too bad Skyrim and Fallout 4 came out during Zenimax's time as a publisher where they just forced them to push games out without updating them. If they were released a little later, Bethesda could have gotten the resources to keep updating the games with content which would have made them last longer over the years.
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>>738557652
Starfield is Todd's masterpiece.
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>>738556949
Same, I pre-ordered it and took launch day off work to play it. Most disappointing game ever. There's like 30 hours of decent content worth playing, and then the most boring open world of all time.
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>>738557652
It's weird how the more hours you put into it, the more you get back. It gets very fun later on but that involves being more leveled up instead of them giving you everything at the start of the game like in their previous games.
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>>738556681
>there's only like 12 different places to explore in the whole game
This was intentional, and it fits with the entire theme of the game being a cycle (the entire NG+ experience is based on this theme). You just have a low IQ and don't get it.
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>>738557807
You're describing morrowind, not starfield
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>>738558014
Starfield is pretty much a modern Morrowind so yea.
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>>738558014
I'd personally put Starfield a step above Morrowind which used to be my favorite game of all time until Starfield.
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>>738541486
a good ass to look at makes every game better, that's all I have to say, thank you.
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>>738541486
Because its fucking dogshit
Next question NIGGER
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>>738541486
You will never be a real woman.
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>>738541486
Why is the 'better' lighting in modern games so bad and ugly?
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>>738556681
>>738557954
The funny thing is, that's why the primary antagonist of Starfield has lost his fucking mind and is a senseless killer. He's done everything over and over again an infinite number of times, he's potentially thousands of years old, if not older.

I randomly ran into him in a bar and he was like "hehe... I'll be seeing YOU later" and I was like "ok, he looks way to cool, and his voice is way too awesome for some random encounter" and I googled him lol (I don't really care about spoilers). I love how OP they made him too. I saved right before attacking him and he uses some kind of space magic to drop me every time.

So cool hehehe.
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>>738558531
>muh modern game bad
starfield has different lighting for every location, also it's fucking creation engine which is not a visually impressive modern engine at all, it's fucking ancient barely holding together, which is why they went for UE5 for the oblivishit remaster.
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>>738559195
>modern game bad
Yes, in fact UE4 games look 1000x better than UE5 games.
The only big game in the past five years with nice lighting is Crimson Desert.
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it's a very flawed game (although i don't think there's a single space game that isn't flawed), but it's the closet thing that scratches the itch i have for a space game
ironically i find the 'space' part of space games the least enjoyable, which is why i could never get into EVE or wing commander etc
i prefer the on-foot gameplay, be it exploring planets or just walking around your ship, Ă  la star trek

other games probably could fit the bill, like star citizen but i still feel that game seems misguided in their approach
i love NMS but the core gameplay is still missing the mark and the setting feels very shallow (even though starfield isn't much better lol)

unlike some other people, i actually like how starfield doesn't feature (sapient) ayys prominently, but they really shouldn't have made the setting so damn sterile
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>>738541486
Mid gameplay
Poor lore and boring universe
Poor modding support and zero dedicated coomer-fans

This shit has zero chances, anon
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>>738559698
>The only big game in the past five years with nice lighting is a game that badly imitates UE5.
you obviously have no idea what you are talking about, I could easily find some UE5 asset flip that has the exact same lighting as Crimson Desert, I'm just too lazy to do it.
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>>738560021
>I can't find it but it totally exists bro
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>>738560089
I just don't care enough about your shitty opinion, so sorry.
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>>738559698
This looks like generic trash. Starfield actually makes you feel like your in space.
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>>738559698
the death of western AAA games cannot come soon enough
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>>738560192
>Starfield actually makes you feel like your in space.
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>>738546071
>Enemies in FEAR barely react to getting shot
Why do you lie? You can just look at any F.E.A.R gameplay video and the replicas react to shots, explosions, fear and all things we wished devs had been putting in shooters for decades.
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>>738541486
being able to make a waifu to coom over does not a good game make
besides, you could do that in pretty much any bethesda game since like, fallout 3
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I don't get the whole "waaaaah these worlds are so empty waaaaah!" why are you playing a space game? For me, this is pure kino. Land on a moon, there's 2-3 POIs off in the horizon. Go in there, blow everything up, send all the loot to my ship's cargo hold and move on.

Like, I just don't get the complaint. What were you expecting when landing on some remote moon of a remote corner of the galaxy?

I mean around 10% of the planets are lush and usually are teeming with life, maybe stick with those? Idk. For me, it's the same thing when someone buys a turn based RPG then complains it's a turn based RPG. Did ya know what you were buying, son?
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>>738560623
oblivion was for a long time the number one when it came to digusting, degenerate sex mods, still hasn't been topped by skyrim btw. Just to let you know, seeing as you are new here, also your opinion is shit.
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>>738560301
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It's the white man's game
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You fags aren't going to rewrite history about this game. I had nothing to do with a WFH job when this originally came out and finished every single faction questline and they all fucking sucked. Game is significantly worse than Skyrim and FO4, and even those games are direct downgrades to their predecessors. Maybe it's better in many ways now, but unless the gameplay has substantially changed it can't be a good game now.
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>>738560739
i kinda wish the planets actually were even more barren
like i just landed on some moon at the edge of settled space, i want to feel like i'm the first ever person to be there since i'm a literal explorer and all that, but instead there's a long abandoned facility that is overrun by pirates

also i think it would have been interesting if the pois were placed deterministically instead of the pseudo-random placement we have now
so two people landing at the same spot would see the same poi in the same location, would be cool if loot was deterministic too
but they should have added some procedural structures too, since currently they're all handcrafted, at least for a bit of variety
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>>738561519
I didn't play this when it came out, but I am currently enjoying Starfield WAY MORE than I did with FO4.

I only played FO4 for the first two weeks it was out and then perma dropped it. I don't know if FO4 became much better after all the dlc/updates were out, but I didn't really like that game too much. It didn't even feel like an RPG to me. Starfield feels like an RPG.
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>>738561017
>Atmospheric fog
>In space
Holy slopgame.
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>>738561519
every faction questline in starfield is better than skyrims, how is this even a fucking question? have you played skyrim? all the questlines are linear, nonsensical garbage. You must be dumb as fuck.
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>>738561787
Newsflash kiddo but space isn't even real. It's all just a fantasy larp.
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>>738541486
Nah, the game completely exposed Bethesda and probably made them reboot TES6 entirely.

Basically, when Bethesda was making games, no one else was really making open world RPGs like them. The skills, freedom, tone, and lore was pretty incredible. Even up to Skyrim, which I have a lot of issues with, it still felt like even with its fault the scope of the world and all of the little things in it was pretty great, along with the interactivity.

Nowadays, everything is open world and all of those games have far better combat and gameplay than Bethesda games. Bethesda games have terrible combat and it was tolerated because no other series was able to have the sheer scope of Elder Scrolls. Bethesda games have terrible combat AI. They have bad moment to moment writing (but great lore ideas though).

Lastly and probably most importantly: The setting sucks. I'm sorry, but it just does. Bethesda has lost the creative talent that created TES. They bought Fallout from another company. They've simply been riding on two franchises that were established by people who no longer or never worked there. Starfield was just the wake up call that Bethesda's way of making games feels like its from, well, 2011.
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>>738562106
>The Starfield shillspammer is also a flat earther
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>>738562109
how the fuck was starfield the wake up call when Fallout 4 was much, much worse. Now we are probably getting a TES6 with dialogue wheels, voiced protag and barely any RPG mechanics. Like always dumb as fuck consumers ruin everything.
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>>738561787
I don't see any fog in this screenshot, it actually looks great. Starfield might be one of the most aesthetically pleasing games of all time.
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>>738561787
In Elite Dangerous, can I disable an enemy's engines and then board their ship, kill everyone inside and then ride away in their own ship and have it as my own for as long as I intend?
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>>738552078
>theres a plethora of better space games out there that do the fighting pirate ships and aliens better
Name them.
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Seems like agp troons love every modern bethesda game
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>>738561914
And they're not linear in starfield you dishonest faggot? They're the exact same shit, but with worse writing, less interesting things to do, etc. Holy kill yourself
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>>738562326
>I don't see any fog in this screenshot, it actually looks great
Anon, that isn't Starfield...
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>>738562272
>fell bfor the globetard / flattard dichotomy
ngtmi
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Should I install it bwos?
It came with the video card I bought a few years ago and I want a game to test out my steam controller with
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>>738562326
He's posting screenshots from Elite Dangerous, a game I also quite enjoy, but autismos need to be tribal and pick something they like and attack everything else because.... idk. I don't understand the people who like certain teams in sports either. "Nooooo! These niggers represent ME because they are wearing a jersey with MY city's name on it!" just weird asinine people.

I get tribalism, actually fighting for your own people, but the fandom wars have always been weird to me. Why not just enjoy what you like and not fling shit?
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>>738563401
ye
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Starfield is legit one of the best looking games in the past decade.
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>>738563685
X4 is shit btw
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>>738563685
This. I sometimes sit in my ship and just enjoy the scenery.
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starfield is super
ok
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>>738541825
The only way Starfield could possibly be considered good is if you're a lobotomized brown who doesn't give a single thought to worldbuilding and context. Absolutely nothing about Starfield feels coherent.
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>>738563898
And this is Starfield's biggest problem because everything else that is bad stems from it.
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>>738563685
>>738563776
Only White men can understand why we love Starfield. Exploration and conquest is in our blood and spirit.
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>>738561685
There's one moon I found that didn't have anything on it. I couldn't even find a POI (idk if it was glitched or just like that). I'm planning on building a settlement there. That's the dream. A planet with no niggers. Set up a supply line, just finally close your eyes and rest, space cowboy.....
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>>738544426
Sorry to ruin your childhood dreams, but all of IRL outer space is boring, gay one note procedurally generated shitholes aside from earth. The average no man’s sky or starfield planet is probably genuinely more interesting than the average planet because they at least have (boring, shitty copy pasta) life on them.
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>>738563898
>The only way Starfield could possibly be considered good is if you're a lobotomized brown
Then why are only brown people seething about it? Pretty much the only people who appreciate Starfield are White men.
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>>738563898
>>738563946
And what's wrong with the world building? Obviously there's a RIDICULOUS amount of space pirates out there, but that's a gameplay thing, to make sure there's always something for you to shoot at or blow up. If you cannot separate lore from gameplay conveniences, then you're the brown-tier IQ.
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>>738564096
If you were actually white you'd have the intelligence to formulate a proper defence/argument for this digital abortion but you don't, therefore you are a lobotomized brown.
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>>738564403
post hand with timestamp
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>>738564468
You first. How about post your playtime while you're at it, pooskin. I gave this abortion far more chance than it deserved, most of my time spent building a self sufficient outpost chain only to find it was 1000% irrelevant to anything else in the game, and that disconntion between elements exists at almost every level, most importantly between planets, there is absolutely no real core to get stuck into like previous bethesda games.
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>>738564642
He said post hand with a timestamp.
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>>738564642
Your playtime doesn't matter if your too low IQ to understand what your playing. It's like a monkey bragging about spending 100 hours reading science.
Like you legitimately have to have a decently high IQ to appreciate Starfield.
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>>738564642
You have more hours in a game that you hate than I do in my most played game on steam
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>>738564716
You don't get to make demands when you're a brownfag defending a brownoid game. If you want to parley as if you were white prove it first. I find it impossible to believe any white man would defend such a piece of shit game.
>>738564813
5/10 shitpost.
>>738564869
>doesn't play videogames yet is on /v/
I am shocked.
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>>738565086
>Still won't post hand with timestamp
Brown.
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>>738560739
>I don't get the whole "waaaaah these worlds are so empty waaaaah!" why are you playing a space game? For me, this is pure kino. Land on a moon, there's 2-3 POIs off in the horizon.
Muh hecking POIs! I LOVE landing on a planet with surface temps so hot it would vapourize flesh, walking 100m and finding nylon sleeping bags lying around my POIs. Peak immersion.
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>>738565086
>accuses others of being brown
>can't prove he's not brown
Curious...
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>>738565258
Bruh Starfield takes place hundreds of years in the future. Technology has advanced so that shit won't melt under heat lmao
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>>738565086
>brownoid that got filtered by Starfield confirmed
many such cases
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The NASApunk art style is the only saving grace of the game.
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>>738565207
>>738565630
>>738565365
>no arguments in defence of slop consumption
>b-b-brown!!
Concession accepted. You don't get to make demands of a white man when you're arguing from a position of browness. You're not even white enough to have the spine to say nigger because you're such bottomfeeding rupee seeking slop eaters you're afraid to get banned. The absolute state of you wretches.
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>>738565883
>calls people brown
>goes insane when he's called brown himself
Hahahaha
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>>738565883
You sound upset.
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Why is this 30 year old grandma so sexually aggressive? She's always like "Hey Captain, see me in my quarters later for that.... thing I promised you ;)" or "Hey cowboy! Wanna go for a ride? ;)))"

I gotta recheck wtf mods I got downloaded again because no way that shit is vanilla
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>>738557592

I don´t really care about Diamond City myself. By the time i reached it my own starting town was already pretty well off. I also just played solo with dogmeat and using nothing but a revolver and a riffle but to be fair i didn´t finish the game so IDK if you can keep that apocalypse hobo roleplay up in the long run. Like i know there are all kind of mutants, giant scorpions and robots out there... in fact, my first encounter with the mutants i was scavenging minding my own business when some sort of mutant patrol or caravan approached. I just had the aforementioned gear and no time to run whatsoever so i hid behind a car until they passed me. It was tense as fuck and fantastic. Even though the story advanced as a crawl pace i enjoyed that kind of wasteland adventure situations and random events.
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>>738541486
>Probably my favorite Beth cgame since Morrowind
Correct. Morrowind and Starfield are the only two Bethesda games I keep continually playing. Starfield's a flat out upgrade on Daggerfall but also nails the action better than the Fallouts or Oblivion/Skyrim. Morrowind's kept alive by the strength of the setting and the dedication of the fans/modders, because TR and OMW are both huge vital improvements and as good as it is by itself, it's even better when it runs well and you have that gigantic world to build your own story in. In fact everything added in TR is part of what elevates Morrowind from Oblivion and Skyrim currently, because it makes Morrowind a sandbox almost like Daggerfall or Starfield only with fucktons of handmade content rather than as much procgen. Point is, Bethesda games are best when you just want a big dumb world you can do whatever you want in and Starfield and modded Morrowind are peak Bethesda performance
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>>738566376
correct.
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You know what would be a really cool idea for a dlc we will never get? Like, some sort of "Death Star" dlc, where you attack an infiltrate a gigantic moon sized battle station.

Maybe it starts with a big space battle, and then you board it and begin taking it over. At the end you can take it over or blow it up. Taking it over is an "evil" move, since everyone in the galaxy is threatened by you, but they all pay a tax to you and you can become infinitely rich. Blowing it up turns you into a hero, your rep goes up everywhere and everyone greets you like a hero, etc.

I just realized I enjoy these tight corridor battles a lot more than ones out in the open field. The derelict space ships and interiors are better suited (for my preferences at least). Some sort of "Assault on a Death Star" type expansion would be so cool. I don't even care if it's only like 5-6 hours long.
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>>738565883
>you're such bottomfeeding rupee seeking slop eaters
Pretty much every Indian I've met is whiter than you, Paco. At least Indians can afford to play Starfield while you seethe about it online lmao
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>>738549408
I pirated the game at launch and if that's how it ships I have no interest in buying now or ever. Fucking Skyrim and Fallout at least were playable, at least the systems worked.
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>>738567823
Nah, I'd find it ridiculous if you couldn't get ahold of the jetpack relatively quickly.
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>fighting giant weird bugs
Damn, this really was Morrowind 2.
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Honestly the new update made Starfield a great game and there's still more updates coming for it.
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>>738570720
that ass is weird af
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>>738541486
Is StarField worth getting for the Star Wars mod?
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>>738556681
Ever since the latest patch, and with all the previous patches and updates rolled in to this one, I am not running into the same POIs nearly as often and it is now uncommon to have that problem.
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This whole thread is
>OP makes a bait comment
>responses insist Starfield is bad
>OP posts aggressively mid screenshots of the most boring space ships, stars and planets in a modern AAA game
>OP is rebuked again and again
>Follow up with screenshots of one generic onlyfans-looking instagram-cherub-face girl in your aggressively mid space "rpg"
>more rebukes over and over
There, I saved anyone coming in here a read, now go to a better thread to shitpost, Starfield is bad.
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>>738544263
You write like AI
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>>738569561
>here's still more updates coming for it.
I hope so. I think there's still a lot of potential for Starfield. Like a Death Star dlc I mentioned in another post, where you seize it to terrorize the galaxy yourself or blow it up to become a hero, or a "First Contact" dlc where we do establish communication and meet with an intelligent alien life form and you can basically take the story into whatever direction you want from there (maybe they are locked into a war with another alien species and gambled with looking for outside help, and you can help whichever side you want or do whatever you want with the situation, maybe even help both sides destroy each other and profit from it - play the jew for once). And if they went that route, imagine all the cool alium ships and alium guns/spacesuits they can add to the game oof. Maybe alium sex with Asari 2.0.

>>738571049
>NOOOO DON'T READ THE THREAD DON'T READ THE THREAD DON'T DISCUSS STARFIELD NOOOOO!
haha loser
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>>738571563
What game should I play instead of Starfield?
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>>738570918
I think it looks good.
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The game actually doesn't look bad
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Come home, white man.
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>>738571579
I'm glad you're enjoying the game, I havent checked out the new update yet since i'm busy with other games and I heard the new patches arent as stable yet. I want to drop right in with some good creations and have fun again.
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>>738550282
Retard.
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>>738572348
If you can mod a 7/10 game into a 10/10 game then what's the difference
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>>738572418
What mods are must have? How's the replayability?
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>>738571863
how can you tell? that picture is dark af
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>>738563043
>defending skyrim writing and quest design
dumb
as
fuck

don't reply to me anymore.
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>>738566189
>30 year old
she's at least 45, also she only ever talks with Andreja about getting another "package" and taking care of a "package", such a weird choice to make one of the love interests in this game a grandma, like romancing wrynn in DA Origins.
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Threads like these make me wonder how many people actually use photo mode and just take female NPC screenshots. I only ever hit print screen if there's a fucked up glitch or something like that.
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>>738541486
>bad game good because I can live out my agp troon fantasies in it!
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>>738572418
Modding elevates.
If a game becomes good through modding then it was not good. Modding would make a good game great.
Starfield becoming good with modding means it was bad.
For someone with a "high iq", you lack any sort of common logic.
You know 1+1=2, not 1. Stupid b8er.
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>>738572778
That's a lot of projection coming from one post.
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>>738557954
except the theme is weak because you can't affect anything because they didn't program enough paths into the game. It isn't a bout vision you will see the laziness everywhere past the superficial layer.
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>>738572469
The problem is, this is a paid mod. It's called "Fleet Commander". I'm not shitting for it. Don't buy it, whatever, I got it because it looked cool as fuck and it seems to work perfectly.

You set up ships to go with you everywhere. You hire the pilot (recruit needs to have pilot training skill), you can set up the entire crew, and it's your ship too (if it blows up you lose it, but you can set them to grav jump away - escape essentially - when their health gets too low).

For me, this makes the game so much cooler when it's you and 3-4 other ally ships escorting you and getting into battles with you.

Another great mod I think is the spacewalk mod. You can get outside of your ship and explore. The game is not intended to actually work that way, so your character essentially goes through a lot of things like space stations and such, but I have still explored a ton out there with this mod, I just think it's fun.

These should be 100% part of the game.

There's a mod called "Fly to the Stars" which lets you get closed to the planets/stars. Just fun to look at things a bit closer than normal.

"Immersive HUD" I'm running out of space to type lol
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saar why is the /v/ tellings of me that the bethasda game starfeild is good?
i thinking it is the being good /v/ as a white ayran man Tod Howard is being the CEO best of vishnu
i am the thinkings that we should be givings the game another chance?
yes?
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>>738572873
>paid mods

I'm out. Every paid mod is like:

>join my discord
>get verified
>here's a link to the payment site
>wait for verification
>you're verified
>here's a download link that never fucking works
>wait days for someone to respond
>here's a working download link

Then the game gets updated and the mod never does. Fuck off will all that bullshit
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>>738572469
(2/2)
Continued from last post

I'll just wrap up and say, I have about 100 mods going and a lot of them are just tweaks. Like I turned off the hitmarkers. This game does not need hitmarkers. Way more immersive to just shoot something and watch it fall over dead.

I modded away the XP notification.

Little things like that which are all preferential. You can play the game yourself and figure out how you wanna tweak it.

My favorite one so far is the Fleet Commander though. Just changes how space flight and combat feels.

>>738573067
If you draw the line at paid mods, that's fine. I got 1000 of those mod credit things when I got Starfield and the Fleet Commander is the first one I got with it (cost 300 I think). I did research a bit to see which mods I should get with the 1000 and I got this speeder bike, the fleet commander, and an old Earth weapon's pack that added 4x old world guns.

I didn't seem to have to jump through any of those hoops you mentioned though.
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>>738573253
>mod credits

Can you just buy the mods in game then and you don't gotta jump through a bunch of hoops? Is there a mod browser in game or is it like nexus/steam workshop?
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>>738573405
yeah the creation store ingame, a lot of modders moved into selling mods and to get away from nexus. You can still pirate the creations though, there are folders for them. Apparently some modders make enough money to hire a full team to keep working on mods full time.
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>>738573405
I actually never bought them directly. I just got 1000 "creation credits" or whatever they're called when I got the game (whenever Terran Armanda came out and was bundled with everything + Shattered Space), and I just used them up.

Not sure why they would make you do retarded shit like join a discord in order to spend your money kek. The Fleet Commander one I described is in the in-game creation club thing.
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>>738572780
I never called myself high IQ but if you are calling me that then thank you.
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>>738563685
>>738563776
>>738564014
what is this retarded gimmick and why do you keep doing it
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>>738572780
I never actually replied to what you said kek, I did wanna say, I was already enjoying Starfield before modding it. I was already like "omg this game is so fucking coool daaamn" and yeah the modding seemed to elevate it a lot.

If you decidedly HATE Starfield... then yeah, I'm not sure if modding will save it.
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>>738573879
It's called enjoying a video game. Rare sight on /v/ but it actually happens.
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Because it isn't a game at all, it is a placeholder for modders

Bethes is the definition of getting cocky and they phoned this in harder than anything they ever did

But all the 'neat' white dorks will dry vaginas everywhere with their homebrew support and make it into a haven for boring bipeds everywhere
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>>738574325
>Bethes is the definition of getting cocky and they phoned this in harder than anything they ever did
You're talking about FO4, not Starfield, gramps. It's ok, take your meds and take a nap.
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>>738574410
White boy, go play with your empty spacesim and shut the living fuck up. Meds? Like the ones you refused from your wife's bull's therapist? Get a real body and shuck the new brain.
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>>738574325
My theory is they really wanted the license for a star wars game, but they couldn't get it. So they made Starfield as shit as possible on purpose then secretly made the star wars overhaul so they can show Disney that people were buying the game just for the mod and theres a demand for it.
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>>738574570
>brownie boy with brown bull fetishes gets filtered by Starfield
Called it.
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>>738572739
I use photomode for everything, it isn't some glitched slow as fuck bullshit like in other games and gets rid of the UI quickly
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>>738574906
I think Bethesda is big enough to not give a shit about making licensed work. I remember when Skyrim came out and GOT was still in its early seasons and well loved, people were talking about Bethesda making a TES game for GOT, and I was like "why the fuck would they do that when TES games seem to be selling gangbuster?" If you got your own popular IP, who gives a shit?
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>>738574906
>but they couldn't get it
1. no one cares about Star Wars anymore
2. the IP is basically worthless, they probably give it away for peanuts but Todd didn't fall for it
3. you are retarded
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>>738542898
You don't know what schizo means. You're also clearly yourself a millenial troon who hates reasonable thinking.
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>>738575328
They got imbiamba jombes, doom and wolfenstein. Which were things they went out of their way to outright acquire or secure licenses for.
>>738575369
Why do you use the retard word immediately after a bullet point list of crystallized downie leavings? Do you have a shred of self awareness at all?
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>>738572570
You gotta click on the image to make them go bigger, brown boy
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>>738541486
did you make this character with mods? if so, which ones?
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HOW CAN GAME BE BAD IF PENIS HARD WITH PORN MOD?
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it was always a good game but the loading screens made it unplayable
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>>738575630
>They got imbiamba jombes, doom and wolfenstein. Which were things they went out of their way to outright acquire or secure licenses for.
Yeah but they don't personally work on them. Seems like they got them for investment reasons or they've calculated those IPs would be worth something in the future perhaps. I just mean I don't see Bethesda personally being like "oooooo please let us make a Staw Wawz gaem pweeeaze". They could probably make their own space game and it would probably sell 10s of millions.... kinda like it did, kek.
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>>738575664
Vanilla face. Body is "ZBB- Zones Beautiful Body Mesh" by Zone79

The ass is kinda bigger than I'd like it to be, but he seems to make a ton of outfits for the body that I think are really cool.

If you search by name (Zone79) you can see all the outfits he's made. A lot of them seem to be multi-layered too, like you can mix the jackets with what you got on underneath it, and the sleeves and whatnot. Literally a "BETHESDA, HIRE THIS MAN" tier modder I think.
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>>738575779
The next elder scrolls will be cancelled by the way. They'll hint at a huge announcement, everyone will think its TES. It'll be a star wars game no one asked for instead. EA pulled the same bullshit with the Battlefield franchise and it succeeded even though everyone but star wars fags were fucking mortified. It will happen again. History repeats.
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>>738576084
That's crazy.
You're crazy.
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>>738575948
Oh and I'll say this. Don't get his Va'ruun outfit pack. I don't know why, but it breaks the female body. Don't know why. Sometimes it works fine, sometimes it doesn't, I've decided to just turn it off and use his other works.
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>>738576084
Elder scrolls is one of the biggest IPs in gaming and one of the best selling games ever, you're crazy and retarded if you think they're cancelling it especially for a dead IP like star wars.
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>>738575948
thanks, vanilla face is surprising given how fuckugly they were in their previous games
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>>738557652
I know my taste is pretty bad but I think that's fine because I get to enjoy more stuff so it's a bonus rather than a disability. I like Starfield too.
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>>738577220
Yeah I was gonna say "that's a vanilla face believe it or not" kek
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>>738541980
You're wrong, but not about the game. In the future, the way things are going, starfield will be a masterpiece among an ocean of AI generated shit. It will be better than Skyrim 6
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>>738576950
that star wars troon aside, I get the feeling microsoft wants them to do another mainline Fallout first because of the success of the TV show.
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>>738575948
Nice Cyberpunk mod
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>>738541486
It starts out fun, but the main story/faction is really bad. And no matter how many times I play it, I eventually hit a point where the planets and their POIs just get dull to explore, even with mods to add more, random events, etc. It's just held back badly by the planet exploration design being terrible.
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Is it the only mainstream Christian game?
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>>738578975
I only did the ranger's questline so far and... it was iight. Bit better than your average Skyrim guild questline. There were mutliple endings too. You could let the bad guy go because he was relatively well liked and employed a ton of people, but I tend to be more of a "the law is the law" type of guy in my RPGs so I busted him. No big earth shattering "The universe is ending!" climactic battle, but maybe a quant little story about corruption is just what a sidequest needs to be.
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>>738579865
>but I tend to be more of a "the law is the law" type of guy in my RPGs so I busted him.
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Starfield is cursed by its loading screens. Once you load into Crimson Desert, you're in a fucking ginormous world and you never need to load again (unless you die or fast travel). Conversely, there's a load screen every 5-10minutes in Starfield, it's super immersion breaking.

It's bad enough having to deal with the bazillion nignogs and shitty, boring ass story; but the loading screens truly are the anvil that broke the camel's back.
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won't play a second of it until there's impregnation rape mods
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>>738581730
>Crimson Desert
These are the only two games I've enjoyed this year.

Well, that and Arc Raiders too.
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>>738541486
I am convinced that star wars mod was made by Beth to get people to play the game but they didnt want to pay disny for the license. So they released it under an account that looks like a fan modder. A big mistake was them assuming people would believe the game has fans that would spen the time making such a big mod.
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>>738581730
Starfield and Crimson desert are both good games that have great exploration. So it's a two cakes situations.
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>>738582018
Starfield has an insanely huge thriving mod community though.
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>>738541486
The gameplay is okay at best and the writing is horrendous, what else is there?
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>>738582018
I do think some of the modders are Bethesda employees and they might be doing it for their own purposes (their idea didn't make the cut during the meetings but they wanted to make it available anyway for example) but I don't think the Star Wars one is them... too risky.
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>>738543884
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>>738582098
The modding scene is pretty tepid, and hinges on whether Bethesda are going to commit to the game long-term (since no one wants to make content for a dead game).

It's a shame but it seems likely that they'll just cut their losses with Starfield and go all steam ahead with TES6 (which will be complete garbage compared to Crimson Desert).
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>>738542989
>immediately devolves into racebaiting and spamming his character model because it can't defends its trashfire of a game.
Wow, you sure convinced everyone, you dumb fuck. I think the game just got a spike on steam charts just from your thread.
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The thing is, I don't think Star Wars fans have abandoned the old stuff. They tend to reject the Disney stuff, but everything Lucas created still seems to be loved. They re-released ROTS and the fans showed up for it. Even the prequels now seem to be loved. It's just the Disney diarrhea vomit that everyone scorns.
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>>738555916
that’s what she was? i thought she was just schizo so i exited the conversation and blew her fuckin head off cos i wanted her ship but you cant steal it
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>>738582479
Shhhhhhh brown boy.
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>>738545451
You shoot a helmet and it flys off. Or they stagger and its not the same animation like if its in the arm or in the leg its different.
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>>738582521
No brain, no arguments, lots of projecting.
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>>738582578
Shhhhhhh
Shhhhhhh
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>>738582578
Shouldnt you busy defending anita in the STS2 threads or shilling mixtape or something?
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>>738561017
Any AA game can do this. It is called space and what Starfield has is shit.
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>>738572659
>>738566189
someone at bethesda definitely had a thing for posh british milfs
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>>738574315
He is talking about taking screenshots of other games and calling it Starfield. Why do bethesda faggots think they are clever when they have no idea about space games? Satfield is in the same category as Outer Worlds.
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>>738582812
You mean outer wilds. Easy mistake, I know.
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kill yourself, browncel manlet
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>>738582749
Yeah but what space game does everything that Starfield does?
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>>738581990
>Crimson Desert
did they add a character creator yet?
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>>738583159
Is that something they are adding soon? Would be cool as fuck.

You can just put on a closed helmet on Kliff and he becomes a "John Crimson" every man though.
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>>738582520
Yeah if you read her logs, she eats something questionable and then starts losing track of time and has no idea why she's doing certain things as if she's not in control any more. I don't remember all the details but it's some alien parasite in her brain.
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I really wanted to like this game but just couldn't, it was really boring and was more of a loading screen simulator and the combat wasn't fun enough to make up for it. Think the only thing I liked was the ship combat.
>>738581730
Yeah
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>>738549778
starfield is a piece of shit simply because it's a beth game without the beth map. F4 is leaps and bounds superior because of this
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>>738541486
snoys were upset it didn't come to playstation on launch so started a hate campaign against it.
You'll note the hate campaign has ended now that it's on playstation.
that is all.
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>>738583043
No Man's Sky does everything Starfield does and a lot more, it's also just as bad, if not worse, as Starfield
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>>738541486
>Why was I told Starfield was bad? I think it's pretty awesome. Probably my favorite Beth cgame since Morrowind.
Because it is bad. I've given it a fair go on two separate occasions, once vanilla, once modded.
And it SUCKS.
It has glimmers of goodness in there, but it's buried in shit.
I did a full playthrough of a bunch of beth games recently Morrowind>Oblivion>SkyrimVR>Starfield>Fallout4
And it's unreal how much better fallout 4 is. It's a better game in every single respect. The only one on that list I had less fun with was oblivion, and I think that's more the fault of the modlist I rolled this time.
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>>738582635
>so upset he needed to reply twice
What a fantastic thread.
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>>738584308
I have No Man's Sky. I like it, but I think Starfield is better. Same with Elite Dangerous and Space Engineers. I like all these games, but overall I think Starfield is better. They do different things better though.
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>>738584443
>delusional
that desperate for a crumb of victory, are we? Hahahaha.
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>todd sits the whole team down
>tells them he want to make a space rpg
>holy shit that sounds awesome
>you mean like mass effect and the outer wilds?
>alien races, massive wars and a whole hand crafted solar system to explore?
>lmao no, i was thinking 1000 random generated empty planets and tons of loading screens
>but that doesn't sound fun, todd
>maybe not, but it will be cheap to make with indians and raise our value when microsoft is going to buy us
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>>738584685
they took a risk with hard scifi and it worked out, didnt it? Scifi doesnt have to be about aliens.
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>>738584789
>hard scifi
It's a game with space magic, anon.
It's not hard sci fi, it has a fuck-ugly 'nasapunk' aesthetic and no content.
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>>738584949
have you ever read a hard scifi novel? this isnt new
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>>738584789
i like the game but seriously a grey or two walking around would have been cool… we got spider with exposed brain aliens that walk around with literally skyrim_deer_ai.exe but that’s fuckin lame dude
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>>738585010
Have you? Space magic automatically precludes something from being 'hard' scifi. It's one of the main conceits of the genre, you fucking moron.
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>>738585090
It's called "sufficiently advanced technology" monkey boy
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>>738585090
hard scifi always includes one fantastical thing that doesnt fit with science, for starfield it's the creation of the grav drives and Christian God helping to create it.
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Why isn't there any islamic sci fi?
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>>738586625
Dune
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>>738586625
Literally Dune.
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>>738541486
>Pronouns

I shan't be buying
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>>738583918
i think they reference resident evil 1s “itchy scratchy” too
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>>738547583
From the thumbnail I thought it was a star wearing sunglasses and was a little let down when I expanded it.
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>>738541486
>avatroon
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The game has come a long way since release. It isn’t anything new (starborn instead of Dragonborn) but the gun play feels great and the story is better than skyrims.

It’s a really good Bethesda game, and if you like that, you will like this.
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>>738579773
Crimson Desert. The game that made that little leftoid IGN faggot dweeb shid himself with rage.
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>>738588658
That explains a lot about why journalists got so mad about Crimson desert.
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>>738588658
So how much are they paying you to shill this gook aislop game?
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>>738541486
I've been playing since I saw a thread a few weeks ago. I have no fucking clue why I listened to /v/ back when it came out. Granted it's buggy as fuck (still), and the whole space travel thing is a joke. But as a "Fallout with guns in space" it's great. The quantity and quality for a modern Bethesday game is their best yet by a good margin.

idk how much has been patched since release but with how bullshit "it's good now" usually is, I'm sure this shit wasn't as bad as the niggers were saying at launch.
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>>738588702
Their review of Wukong made it very clear what they're all about. "I'm on chapter 3 and I haven't seen a single woman in this game yet." That is a serious complaint that they had in their "review in progress" garbage.

They restrained themselves for Crimson Desert and actually pretended to hate the game itself but they wanted to say "WHERE IS THE GAY REPRESENTATION? WHERE DA BLACK KANGS? WHY NO MEXICANS? WHAT DO YOU MEAN HERNAND IS PRETTY MUCH ALL WHITE BESIDES THE GOBLINS AND ORCS? AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!! 6/10!!!!!!"

>>738588790
Seethe trannoid.
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>>738588983
I stand with trannoid and I'm not a tranny, I've just played a Pearl Abyss game before.
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>>738584384
All these words and you fail to mention why you think that
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>>738588983
>culture warrior having a melty because someone called out his aislop korean grindfest
lmao
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>>738541486
Yeah, I heard nothing bad bad things but when I actually played it I loved it. It does get a little repetitive with all the shortcuts and they're too convenient not to use, but other than that my only real issue with it is the automatic generation of module connections in the shipbuilder.
Currently waiting for place doors yourself to update for PS5 before I get back into it.
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>>738589145
>I stand with trannoid
Why would you discredit yourself like this?

>I've just played a Pearl Abyss game before
Sorry you missed out then.

>>738589346
>le culture warrior
IGN complained about Wukong not having a woman character in the first 3 chapters.
>NOOOO IF YOU POINT THAT OUT YOU'RE BEING A CULTURE WARRIOR
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>>738588983
You guys still pay attention to game journalists?

But... why?
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>>738589687
>You guys still pay attention to game journalists?
I do but not in the way you'd expect. I actually wasn't going to buy Crimson Desert but when they gave it a 6/10 I felt a disturbance in the force. They hated it and I had it have it. Something about this game made those demon infested faggots seethe. And yeah... it's now one of my favorite games. I wasn't even going to buy it but they had the opposite effect on me kek.
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>>738589520
>starts off his first complaint about IGN with the word 'leftoid'
Uh oh, culture warriors poopin his diaper again because no one likes his big aislop gook grindfest :)
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>>738590084
That's right. Get it all out, leftoid, cuck. This is probably the year you're going to kill yourself, so let it all out.

HIIIIIYAAAA GUARD! Hahahaha!
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>>738589520
Don't really give a shit, why are you talking about this game is a Starfield thread if not to shill?
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>>738589687
He just got that from his morning bug briefing.
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>>738541486
The story was so boring and I really couldn't care about any of the characters
I really wish Bethesda would have done something interesting with this game as the gameplay and setting is great
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>>738590216
someone's having a melty :)
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>>738590362
I made this thread. These are the two games I'm playing a lot this year, so fuck youuuuuuuu!
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>>738590645
I'm sure your parents loved you and will remember you fondly.
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>>738541486
Post porn and i might consider
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>>738590692
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Why is Sarah such a bitch?
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>>738591191
no eggs
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>>738555548
Yeah s paid mod community.

So not an actual community
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>>738591393
>communities don't exchange money for services
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>>738591191
>mission where you go buy an artifact in Neon
>seller stole it from some corpo dude, whose goons hold you at gunpoint literally the second after you buy it as if they weren't waiting for you to do it
>corpo for whatever reason says "fine, I'll let you go if you decide what we do with the seller"
>"I'll turn him over to the authorities"
>[Sarah liked that!]
>when actually given the choice of what to do with him (he's already gotten the shit kicked out of him) say "get out of here bruh"
>[Sarah hated that!]

What the fuck bitch?? Even the guy he stole from (who wanted to kill us btw) doesn't give a shit, what hyperdimensional level of narc is this ho??
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>>738591191
>Wow she didn't agree with everything I said what a bitch.
She's not though. She's just direct.
Maybe you're just cucked by cowardly american 'politeness' culture into thinking anyone that actually says things straight instead of sideways is 'rude'.
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>>738591679
She even goes on to say "I WOULD HAVE FED YOU TO THE WOLVES"

Is Sarah a low key hard core authoritarian fascist?
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>>738591795
She's from the UC so yes
It doesn't matter how sympathetic a person is if they did something illegal she will chastise you for letting them go
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>>738592090
Never thought I'd see the day where Bethesda gives you a blonde lipstick nazi chick as the main companion but here we are.
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>cute vanilla npc
>you can't romance her
everytime.
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>>738592625
Sorry anon but you only get to romance the bitchy merchant hating fascist
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>>738591191
>Freestar catches a stray while we're fighting pirates
>start blowing my asshole apart
>fire back once
>AHHHH I CANT BE A PART OF THIS ANY MORE
>YOURE ON YOUR OWN

-_- nigga if you don't shut the fuck up back there
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>>738592764
No fun allowed
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>>738592852
lol what's the harem she's objecting to here?

She's written so oddly. A lot of the time she's all happy go lucky and free love. Then she'll randomly slam her foot down and say this doesn't serve the Fuhrer, bring me my rope. I'm not sure if it's a problem with the dialogue design or her writing but it's hilarious.
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>>738593132
looks to be the red mile death race
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>>738543793
>is also bogged down by frustrating mechanics that wastes your time and buggy shit that doesn't work.
I feel the same about Skyrim and nu Fallout, but Starfield is just slightly better. Same trend as when Skyrim came out after Fallout 3. Skyrim is far from a perfect game, but 7.5 is more like Ubishit territory. Even with the bugs it's a higher tier than that.

Modern internet is going to rip ES6 to shreds even if it's Bethesda's magnum opus.
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>>738593883
If there is 0 DEI shit, then the internet will probably be on ES6's side.

But we all know that isn't going to happen.

Half of the hate Starfield received was because of the ugly vanilla npcs.
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>The Elder Scrolls 6 will take place in Hammerfell, the desert homeland of the Redguards
It's over.

If Bethesda had any sense, they'd scrap ES6 and start over from scratch and make a Skyrim 2. Hell, even Oblivion 2. People are already kinda making fun of the GTA6 previews, just imagine ES6: MOORim kek.
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I never hated the game, but I went back with the new patch and started a playthrough with some autistic survival mods.
>atmospheric audio so you can hear when you're in a vacuum, space suit sounds etc (Todd wtf why didn't you do this)
>removing the health bars and red arrows that tell you where hostiles are
>needs, weapon/armor degradation, o2, fuel etc

I feel like Todd made a mistake casualizing it because I think it improves the game a lot. On my first playthrough I put my main outpost on a fucking methane world because it was pretty, now I actually pay attention to what's going on because it matters.
It also lowers the TTK a lot so combat positioning is important, which made me realize the AI was better than I thought. Not only will the AI try to flank you (and without the red arrows, it fucking works too) but unlike their previous games, it doesn't magically know where you are when you drop out of sight, so you can flank as well. When you get the wallhack power and a nonlinear map like cryolab you can absolutely peel squads apart with sniping and grenades. Speaking of which, the POI system sucks but the dungeons are Bethesda's best work. Pretty, lots of verticality and alternate paths to take. Light years ahead of Skyrim's linear loops.
But yeah the game isn't perfect. POI system sucks. It needs more types of enemies. The temples were inexcusable. Too many gays everywhere. But it's definitely way better than people say here.



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