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The biggest evolutionary jump in game controls since the analog stick. Every other game controller just became dated overnight, we now live in a post Steam Controller world.
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Controllers should have six face buttons.
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It doesn't even have x-input
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Hype is dead
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>>738544434
It's the touchpads. They let you play anything you would with M&K.
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>>738544567
Face buttons are overrated because no matter how many you have you're still limited by the fact that you only have one thumb. This is why back buttons are superior
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>controller locked down DMR edition
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I cannot wait to play low rank CS and WoW with this thing. Bye bye mouse cuckoldry
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>>738544867
>being tech illiterate
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>>738544869
>mfw i play dota 2 with gyro to mouse
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>>738544715
also whenever you need to navigate menus just not built for gamepad. like fucking launchers.
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>>738544974
Based, would try that as well if I did not quit
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>>738544603
"Oh no, it emulates xinput instead, what do I do"
>>738544867
It works lizard mode almost anywhere, and native on Linux
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I GOT MINE TODAY
Feels so good resting on my pp. Nice and cool, with some heft.
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>>738544827
You only have one ring finger, back buttons are also limited
>but muh second analog stick
Exclusively used for LARPing, people clamor for back buttons because the right analog is never used for anything that's really gameplay related.
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>>738544715
I might need to look up some yt proof to see that it's comparable to mkb, since these threads are nothing but braindead "muh trackpads da foochur". I'd quite happily switch to a mouse-like to play souls-likes for maximum comfy, but so far nothing on /v shill threads has convinced me
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>>738545257
It's not new grounds, anon. Laptops had them for ages.
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>>738544869
How would you even play WoW with a controller? I can't even imagine it
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>>738545257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzbZq4OjEwE
gyro plus flickstick is where it's at
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>>738545239
Im glad hearing people say its on the heavier side. I really dislike controllers that are too light for some reason. Its why I never clicked with the Wii U PRO controller
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is there any way to set a global button layout and gyro settings that works across all games?
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>>738545383
They added a one button rotation to the game that just automatically does your main spells based on the situation you are in, kek. It would be decently playable already on a basic controller but navigating menus is too annoying.
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>>738545487
I thought it was going to be Xbox huge but the controller is on the small side. The face buttons and D pad are smaller than those on my PS4 controller, Xbone controller and Switch 2 pro controller. D-pad is not clicky, but similiar to the PS4 in feel and texture. I still feel like this is a positive since doing rolling motions and half circle motions is easier on smaller D pads where your thumb doesn't slip off.

We'll see after I get it charged and start testing.
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>>738545706
Ds4 is my favorite dpad for tekken
Glad to hear its close to that one
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>mine still not shipped
Gabe stole my money
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>>738545827
You'll be the first to get it goyim... when it restocks next month.
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>>738545396
God I hate AI voice overs
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>>738544434
Whats so evolutionary about it?
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>The parcel data was entered into the GLS IT system; the parcel was not yet handed over to GLS.

FUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUU
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>>738544827
>NOOO! you can't have more face buttons because.. because you just can't OKAY!
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>>738544434
shoulder buttons are pretty mid, the triggers should have trigger lock like every chink controller does now
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>>738545797
I broke 2x Xbone controllers playing fighting games. Xbone D-pads feel the best but they just don't last. Each one broke in under two years. As a side function for utility purposes; Xbone D-pads are nice but for serious use, they break down fast.
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if it didn't have this bit nobody would give a fuck about this piece of shit
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>>738546083
You think that's bad? Just wait until it departs the parcel center and you get no updates FOR OVER 48 HOURS WHERE THE FUCK IS IT GIVE IT tO ME NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
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>>738545624
you cant set it a global layout that works automatically because the first launch will always default to a preset but you can create your own template and then when you start a new game just load the template, easy as a button press.
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>>738545990
>Whats so evolutionary about it?
I can swipe the right pad to take pictures of my games and I can swipe the left pad to rub your mom's clit.
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I love the steamdeck so much so I'm so glad we finally have a "steamdeck" controller. I love having the stick and the d-pad right next to eachother but this layout only makes since if you have something for all the extra space under it which is where the trackpads go
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>>738546169
xbone d-pad is nice but holy hell do I hate the placement, I'm normally not a person who complains about the placement of the analog/d-pad but for fighting games specifically there is so much fast and constant finger motion that I get cramps, dualshock d-pad placement is just so much easier on my hands
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>>738545131
If it supported x-input, then you could connect it to any device that supports standard x-input bluetooth gamepads. You can't because it's incompatible garbage.
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>>738544434
Im stuck living in a pre Steam Controller world until Tuesday because it apparently takes UPS four fucking days to get mine from the next state over.
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>>738546720
I don't have one yet to confirm, but I heard someone say in lizard mode you could hold steam and x or something to enter a dummy controller mode.

But even if not this is a tiny gripe, it still sold out.
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why are you people allergic to kb + m?
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>>738546720
>You can't because it's incompatible garbage.
Until next week when someone makes pseudo Xinput drivers. It's a valve product meant to be easy to use with Steam Machines. Open source means that someone, some where will make drivers for it. Long as it's none profit, Valve won't care and encourages it.
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Norway and Switzerland - suffering from success
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>>738546960
A driver wouldn't fix it. It would require new firmware, and I wouldn't count on that happening. Steam doesn't seem to care about compatibility so long as its works within their own ecosystem.
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>>738546956
I don't want to take a keyboard with me and balance it on a sofa, or be unable to stand with them .

Mobility bro
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>>738544603
Anyone saying this immediately outs themselves as a retard that's just parroting and doesn't understand anything.
xinput cannot handle anything beyond what a 360 can. No back buttons, no trackpads, no gyro, no grip sensors. Why the fuck would Valve try to work with this crap?
SDL literally works fine. Dolphin's had it for years so the Steam Controller just works there even on Windows without Steam running.
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>>738544434
My 4 controllers deliver in 2 hours. Can't wait to play PoE2 leaning back with my footrest. Keyboard/mouse is nice but I wanna be cozy.
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>>738547125
you genuinely actually just might be retarded
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I'M SO JELLY
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>>738545383
They were already add-ons that let you bind things to a controller. The trackpads on this one will just make it even easier to use.
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>>738547203
This, just like basically everything Microsoft makes xinput is dated shitty garbage but it keeps getting used because it's microsoft and the standard so people just put up with it
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>>738545312
Are the ones one the steam controller really just as awful as those things?
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>>738547203
Even if it doesn't support every feature, having XInput support is still better than not having it. Having DirectInput support would also be nice. It supports pretty much every feature the controller has to offer.
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Already preordered mine
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>>738545252
>You only have one ring finger, back buttons are also limited

You have a ring finger and a pinky, and they're also on both sides, so you can press every four buttons at once. Which is basically impossible with face buttons unless you're one of those lunatics who hold it flipped
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>>738544434
Can you use the left trackpad for motion controls in fighting games?
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>>738547718
Doubtful as it has a single plane direction of movement, but what EXACTLY do you mean motion fighting?? Wii boxing??

No, you probably can't emulate 3d movement with 2d input.
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>>738545257
>it's comparable to mkb
It's not. If you're playing menu-heavy games with a controller for some reason, trackpads are better than none, but still not nearly as good as mkb.
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>>738547718
It would probably be better to map motion inputs to the back buttons, that way you can kind of emulate a hitbox of having access to every direction at once
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>>738547260
Wait what the fuck? That's sloppa?
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>>738547850
>what EXACTLY do you mean motion fighting?
You know how in games like Street Fighter you use the d-pad to do special moves? I'm wondering if you could do it with the trackpad instead by tracing the movement.
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>>738547493
Yes
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>>738547260
Can POE2 even accommodate the back buttons (not that you need more than 1 or 2 buttons in POE2)?
Also, last time I checked they haven't even implemented hybrid controls in poe2 (you can't use controller for combat then switch to mkb for inventory management). So would the trackpads even work?
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How is the d-pad compared to the dualsense?
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>>738548026
Should be doable. The guy who visited LTT with his DIY steam controller plays Skate with a trackpad and traces the movement
https://youtu.be/eNb55ZwnCRc?t=1127
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>>738545239
>Feels so good resting on my pp
Finally, a real Anon from 4chan's glory days of 2008.
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>>738548124
If that's the case, you'll need to use a config that uses full mkb layout.
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>>738545252
>LARPing
>the right analog is never used
How would I control the camera in a 3D action/adventure game without a right analog stick?
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>>738548026
That's....not fucking motion controls dumbass, thats dpad input.

And yes. Haptics Being on can help, giving clicky feedback as if its an actual dpad. Or use the actual computer dpad.

Motion controls is stuff lime gyro, or vr controllers,
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>>738548686
>That's....not fucking motion controls dumbass
Holy fucking retard. Amazing how confident you were typing that.
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>>738548124
Absolutely. On steamdeck I just emulate keyboard with WASD on analog. Sometimes I emulate keybinds for skills on the right trackpad. You create an on-screen (invisible when not being setup) cluster of keys and those are mapped to your skills, the haptics tell you when you cross between keys so you know where your thumb is relative to keys and can accurate cast skills. But sometimes I just use triggers, shoulders, back buttons and two face buttons. Steam Controller has 2 extra back buttons so I'll be able to restrict skills to just should/trigger/back mercifully and not have to make concessions.
Ideally PoE2 had hybrid input so I could have joystick movement and emulate binds with everything else. But oh well. Diablo can hilariously.
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>>738548026
With the trackpads you can bind complete combos to a gesture. So like Shoryuken combo could be mapped with just drawing an S with your thumb. Basically gonna make fighters stupid easy for casuals.
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>>738548686
nta but they're generally called motion inputs, motion controls is a bit misleading because it also refers to wii and gryo stuff but I get what he meant
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>>738548686
>PCfag being confidently retarded outside of his narrow gaming niche
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>>738545252
>You only have one ring finger
Ring and pinky retard
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>>738548015
Image gen gets better every day, you gotta keep up or you'll get taken for a ride.
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>>738544434
This is going to be a band aid solution to so many games on steam and I am all for it. The amount of games that are 98% usable on controllers but need a mouse every now and then is staggering
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>>738548158
Dual sense dpad is fucking awful so probably better but I don't think anyone has these damn things yet
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>>738544434
Sucks it has always online DRM that steamgoyim love defending.
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>>738549908
Are you retarded or merely pretending?
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>>738544434
Excluding the trackpads which are very niche, what's the advantages of this thing over something like the 8bitdo Ultimate 2?
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>>738550217
None
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>>738549795
Hi, my drm seems to be broken, can you help me turn it on? It works on Linux without steam installed at all, and lizard mode works on my phone. PLEASE HELP ME TURN ON THIS DRM!!!
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>>738550136
Can you use xinput on the hundred dollar brick on windows without having steam open?
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>>738550217
Nothing.
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>>738545312
I know, I meant trackpads on a controllers are sold like the 2nd coming of Christ, I wasn't convinced the combo suddenly made trackpads relevant and seems like it hasn't still
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>>738544434
>symmetrical sticks
Never even got to the starting line
It's trash
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>>738550365
>It works on Linux without steam installed at all
it doesnt tho, you need either steamos (which also has always online DRM) or the FOTM "gaming" meme distro
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>>738550472
No
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>>738550678
Then it requires steam open at all times.
Thus, it has literal always-online DRM.
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>>738550554
Unfortunately I guess my os counts as bazzite, never heard of rocknix, and you didn't address my android.

WHERE IS MY DRM I PAID GOOD MONEY FOR DRM!! I WANT WALLS FOR MY GARDEN, BUILD A WALL!!

>>738550217
Isn't this kinda like asking what the point of a plane is over a car besides flying???

If you absolutely hate the idea of pads, and want to violently resist having them, yes, 8bitdo would be preferable.

If you have even the slightest willingness to use pads ever, sc is better.
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>>738550818
>and you didn't address my android.
"lizard mode" is literal corpo buzzwords for basic bitch input that is not even xinput nigga
the fuck are you chimping out over? steam scammed you and you're happy to defend the yacht company
then again nobody expected anything better from steamgoyim lol
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Grip sense to enable gyro is legit a massive gamechanger, I believe the biggest thing holding gyro back from mainstream adoption is that people find it annoying when you accidentally move you controller around because they forget they have gyro enabled. Having it active be a conscious choice like a button press instead of the default is just way more intuitive.
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>>738544434
sounds fine but they should open up the god damn protocols

this thing needs to be accessed by every platform
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Is it possible to bind an action on touch sticks but then break that action if i moved the sticks instead?
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>>738544434
I've been playing Deep Rock Galactic with mine since it arrived. Works really good with gyro on by default and disabled by releasing either grip (so I can take a drink etc without spazzing out).

It really is mouse-like precision, I love it. Only weird thing is it wants to do a "firmware update" every time I move it between devices. Weird. Must be a glitch.

>>738550749
You can set its no-steam config to be a regular gamepad iirc.

>>738550554
Is this the chart he made before his apology video where he admitted he was wrong on multiple points?
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>>738550912
I don't care!! I was FALSELY sold a controller that should have drm!!! I want it to NOT WORK AT ALL unless it has steam running period!! That's the REAL scam, give me my drm!!

#wheresmydrm
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>>738544434
Glory to the Sacred Valve, gAben.
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>>738551160
Hope you're at least getting paid by valve because this is outright embarrassing otherwise lmao.
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>>738544434
The Dualshock 4 did the same thing in 2013, but I don't see you raving about it and no game made good use of the trackpad except to use it as 1 or 2 big buttons.
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>>738551247
>Dualshock
There was no steam logo on it
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>>738550970
I find I activate it by accident constantly with grip sense=enable. Instead I make it always on and make releasing grip disable it. Works great in deep rock galactic anyway. Sniping those fester fleas just as well as with mouse, maybe a little better even.

I wonder if they have any way to make grip sense sensitivity adjustable somehow, or if it's purely on/off. On the bright side the back buttons are perfectly positioned for my fingers.

I think a better solution for some people will be using back buttons to activate gyro, like on games where you don't need to constantly have your head on a swivel.
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>>738551247
If anything the wii controller was more innovative in that regard because using the controller as a sort of "gyro mouse" is legit one of the best mice I have seen that aren't a literal PC mouse.
Thankfully that feature carries over to the switch 1 and 2, but it sucks basically nothing uses it and on the switch 2 nintendo straight up just added a normal mouse mode.
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>>738551247
Now try the touchpad on any steam device and get back to us and tell us it's the same thing.
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>>738551220
It seems to me that this is a troll, or a mentally ill person, he does not have a controller or linux, because he does not even understand how all these things work.
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>>738549427
If you're the one who made that sloppa, can you remake this with the new controller?
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>>738551247
I was literally a touchpad defender for the Dualshock 4 and saw great potential in how swiping could be used for less common real time actions like turning on a flashlight, opening the map or switching sub weapons. Then almost nobody used it for that and it just turned into "big button press lmao"
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>>738550912
>"lizard mode" is literal corpo buzzwords
Not exactly. It's meant to draw parallels with "lizard brain".
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>>738551247
PS4 didn't allow you to make good use of DS4's features because it's a console and they don't trust console players with the responsibility to change their own controls.

Also its touchpad was in completely the wrong place to have any practical use, that's why it was just treated like a button.

Ironically only PC let anyone make proper use of DS4's features, but it still lacked sensibly-positioned touchpads and had like 3 hour battery life with sticks that shit the bed after a few months.
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>>738544434
EVERYONE REMEMBER TO ALWAYS SET YOUR IN-GAME STICK DEADZONES TO ZERO! YOU DON'T NEED THEM!
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>>738551678
It's a literal corporate buzzword when it just means "the controller is running without the steam overlay and thus nearly fucking useless".
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>>738551685
>Steamgoy already running an AI generated argument about consoles when we are talking about PC specifically.
This is why nobody likes steamies.
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>>738544434
I'll wait for the 8BitDo or Gamesir version that's actually high quality
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>>738551825
Why? The name fits to what it does. Lizard mode is the mode that activates when higher functions have seized. It's "running on instinct"
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>>738552000
>steamies
Tendies really couldn't come up with anything better than just ripping off the nickname that makes them seethe
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>>738546960
DS4Mapper is adding suppport for it.
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>>738544434
pretty annoying how I have to use SISR to play my gacha slop though, I don't understand why virtual USB xinput emulation isn't built in
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>>738551402
>I wonder if they have any way to make grip sense sensitivity adjustable somehow
Main steam settings - Controller - Details - Calibration and Advanced Settings - Grip Sensors.
I ended up finding it on accident today. You can adjust how close your fingers need to be as well as set an overlap for the activate and release points so you don't get flickering if you have your hand right at the transition point.
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>>738544603
>it doesn't have outdated 20 year old Microshit firmware

Good.
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>>738545252
>You only have one ring finger
You have 2 ring fingers and 2 pinkies for the 4 back buttons. Plus the existing face buttons for your thumb.
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>>738545312
How do you activate trackball functionality on them? That's kind of the Steam controller's whole thing with the trackpads.
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>>738544603
SAAAAAR
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>>738548158
It has a smooth plastic finish like the xbox controller which I personally dislike and it doesn't have the tactile click like the best dpads (or even the shitty switch pro) but it's otherwise better than average. It doesn't feel mushy and you can't press opposite directions at the same time.
The rest of the controller is so high quality imo its a shame the dpad isn't perfect but I'm only mentioning it at all because pretty much everything else about the thing is basically exactly what I hoped it'd be. I feel petty even mentioning it.
If I could change it I'd also indent the center a little like the dualshock/sense.
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>>738545383
Lots of people play FFXIV with a controller and that has more skills than WoW
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>>738546083
part and parcel
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>>738544434
Welcome to the club.
I've lived in a post Steam Controller world since 2015 or something.
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>a controller that defaults to mouse and keyboard controls is bad on a pc because I DUNNO WAIT THATS ACTUALLY AWESOME I CAN CONTROL MY WHOLE PC WITHOUT STEAM BEING OPEN?!?!?
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>>738555597
I can't stand using a controller in that game without these features. It's actually pretty good with a steam deck.
There are just so many things you can't do easily without a mouse that you wouldn't even think about until you have to. The track pad mouse is perfect.

I've got the two right back buttons set up to cycling target, and targeting my focus. The left ones are backspace and show keyboard (which I'm still not good at typing on)
I use the left pad as a radial menu for selecting each party member. very good for healing.
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>>738556192
Go to Steam (top left) > Settings > Controller > Advanced Settings > Desktop Layout
Then you can set the whole thing to whatever you want (including Xinput)
Hell, you can also assign many different action sets to store several layouts all at once. All you need is a way to change between them. Something like the left pad turning into an area menu when R5 is held down.

I haven't done too much testing with this, but I know this works when Steam isn't currently running, and on the old Steam Controller, your configurations are stored on the controller itself, so that's probably the case here too.
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>>738548512
By holding the shoulder buttons like God intended.
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Is the trackpad really that great for aiming? Is it better than the gyro that few games support?
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>>738556192
If I wanted kb+m controls I would use a motherfucking mouse and keyboard, why the fuck would anyone spend a hundred dollars for something a chinkoid DS4 third party controller can do but better and with no always-online DRM?
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>>738556631
>the gyro that few games support
you can have the gyro act as a joystick. the trackpads are more for mouse emulation
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>>738556631
trackpad is mediocre for aiming, gyro plus flickstick, with touchpad for tiny adjustments is the way to go
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I've been using Steam Input between my Controller 1 and Steam Deck for a decade now. Steaminput has been my primary method of control that entire time, even when using a different controller, I still feed it through steam input for customization.

Here are some freebies for you guys:
>Grip sense to activate gyro can be used to turn the Steam Controller 2 into a bootleg racing wheel or flight stick
>If you take your left stick and set it to mouse region and bind the stick to left click when pushing the stick, you have created stick movement for any Diablo style game that can handle hold and drag movement
>Mouse regions can also be used for games like RTS or Tycoon games to make your cursor only appear in a specific area like the space of the UI with a lot of clickable settings or a mini map or something like that
>Game has inverted camera and no settings? Just invert it on your end lmao
>When aiming in shooters on the trackpad make sure to set the rotation to your liking, base it on how your thumb naturally drags across the trackpad
>If you're playing an N64 game you can but A and B on the back of the controller and then use ABXY as the 4 c buttons
>Some games tweak out when handling mouse and keyboard inputs simultaneously, but many games CAN handle both and you can get bespoke advantages like analog movement and mouse-like aiming simultaneously, or if the game controls slightly different on KBM vs Controller you can utilize both control schemes (in Ty the Tasmanian Tiger the boomerang shoots where Ty is facing for controller players, and where the camera if facing for KBM players, if you bind left mouse click and the throw button from the controller separately you can use both on one controller)
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>>738547203
SDL 3.4. SDL versions before that don't support it.
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>>738556667
so you don't like thing, why stay in thing's threads? you now may leave this thread without further comments
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There's a single anon that keeps the threads alive by sperging and posting FUD. He's so insistent that I'm starting to think his main goal is keeping the thread alive and not convincing people to not buy Valve hardware.
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>>738556631
the trackpad is a meme, it's only really there because steamgoys are lardwhales too lazy to plug in a mouse to use it on the couch if their pc needs it
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>>738544603
SISR is RIGHT THERE
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>>738556746
>You can use the games in-game keybind settings to your advantage. The steam controller has 12 buttons between ABXY, dpad, and the 4 back buttons which covers 1 through = on the keyboard, but if a game accepts shift. crtl. or alt+input modifiers (Shift+1, shift+2, alt+3, etc) you can then rebind the games additional inputs as shift, crtl, alt 1-12 and then handle up to 48 keybinds via 12 inputs
>You can also set up virtual menus on the trackpads as a line, box, or circle full of menu inputs, these can handle tons of inputs all on one trackpad and are super useful for situational menus in CRPGs and MMOs and tycoon games and such
>Also consider the games UI and how it works, in Diablo the character and inventory screens are on opposite sides to complement each other, same with 2 other menus. You can bind inventory and character to one button and open them simultaneously
>You can create a wavedash macro for melee with the trackpad if you set the trackpad to work as left stick on touch and have it pulse jump as an interruptable turbo and shield as an uninterruptible turbo as long as you time it all out to activate at the right time, you can probably make it a button too but I like being able to pulse slip sliding around the stage by sliding the trackpad around
>The Steam Controller 2 trackpads are the easiest to click down they have ever been, it's dumb intuitive to do fighting game inputs on the trackpad of the Steam Controller 2
>In all situations where you are using a trackpad for aiming, it will feel best to pull as many inputs as possible off of ABXY and onto other inputs like trackpad click or back buttons
>In general, many control schemes can be altered so you aren't pulling your thumbs off inputs at all during normal gameplay and it's the best way to play any game you can manage it for
>Gyro camera isn't just nice in shooters I use it in a bunch of 3rd person games like WoW as well because it's nice to make a micro adjustment without moving my thumb
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>>738556746
>bind the stick to left click when pushing the stick
Why not just use the triggers? Pushing on joysticks sucks.
Otherwise, good tips.
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>>738556985
You can have it activate when you move the stick, or when you touch the stick, no need to click
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>>738556631
Mediocre. What makes it great is when you pair it with gyro.
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Made a new wojak from a pic a friend sent to me of him receiving his epic new chungus device from gabe. Hope everyone likes their big black masterpiece.
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https://github.com/Alia5/SISR gonna shill this thing. Its not perfect by any means but it beats the "controller mode" that is used when minimized from big picture mode. Still a work in development
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>>738557153
embarrassing and irony poisoned
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>>738557153
I look like this
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How hard is it to replace the buttons with the playstation face buttons?
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>>738556931
>Hit Steam+X to open the keyboard in any game. There's a bunch of Steam+ keybinds, that's the most useful one, and only one I remember right now.
>BUT it will just open the keyboard, it will not open the chat box in your respective video game. I recommend a binding which opens the text box AND then activates the keyboard after. It's a lot faster than moving a dpad around to type, so you might get the impression it can be mastered and become relatively quick, let me tell you it cannot. Even once you get fast at it, the trackpads each only cover one half of the keyboard so if a word is only spelled using one half of a keyboard you are bottlenecked for speed. It isn't sufficient to keep up with live chat in WoW or anything like that but it will be handy if you're on the couch and they ask you to name a character.
>If a game like WoW, FFXIV, Guild Wars 1 or 2 etc involves holding down right mouse button to turn the camera, you can bind RMB to activate when you touch your right stick (which is bound as mouse) and BOOM, camera stick
>There are press modifiers like hold press, start+press, or double press, these are super useful to layer multiple inputs on one button, in games with camera zoom I often use hold start and hold select to zoom the camera in and out, I bind it as a turbo as well so it just rapidly inputs mouse wheel up or down and works just like a zoom
>It's great for browsing the web, you can use the left trackpad like a scroll wheel
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>>738557153
>I made a wojak of my friend to post about him behind his back to my other "friends"

Why the fuck are you proud of acting like a woman?
>TEE HEE I MADE FUN OF STACY TO BECCA AND CLAIRE! NOW I'M GONNA TELL STACY ABOUT BECCA'S ABORTION BECAUSE BECCA'S A BITCH!
God I hope you get your face caved in with a stovepipe.
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>>738552000
NTA. I spent a shit ton of time trying to get use out of the ds4 touchpad with ds4windows and steaminput. The positioning just made it uncomfortable to use no matter what I did. The steam deck made me hopeful a controller would learn from the placement on it. Was a bit surprised Valve said "I'm going to do it myself" when they announced SC2
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>>738555597
ffxiv was designed from day one to work on controller to be fair, and even then you still want kb+m for menus, chat, whatever.
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>>738544434
You still haven't received enough izzat from Gabe, have you, visajeet?
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>>738557153
The small reddit man on the controller is a nice touch, wouldn't be clear that thing bad otherwise.
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>>738557153
damn, your friend is jacked. mirin his pecs
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I KNOW XINPUT IS SHIT. BUT IT JUST WERKS AND THE ALTERNATIVES HAVEN'T BEEN MADE COMMONPLACE YET SO IT'S ALWAYS HASSLE TO USE ANYTHING BUT XINPUT. THIS IS HOW TECH WORKS, NEW THING WON'T REPLACE OLD THING UNTIL IT BECOMES HASSLE-FREE.
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>>738557906
Another fun one. Press start with the keyboard open and it moves the keyboard. Doesn't work in Steam UI. Only in-game and on desktop
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>>738559405
THEN BUY AN XINPUT COMPATIBLE CONTROLLER AND STOP WHINING LIKE A BITCH
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>>738559405
Fucking either stfu and get a standard controller, use one of the SEVERAL work arounds provided or fuck off.

This xinput shit is a horse beaten so hard its a jelly like pulp.
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>>738557906
Two more before I ride off into the sunset bros
>Any bindings on the number pad will still be at the mercy of numlock, please keep that in mind
>You can turn the trackpad into a trackball for old trackball arcade games like Centipede
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UPS got it yesterday but now they're saying I won't get it until Tuesday. Am I being punished bros?
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>>738561531
the delivery guy took yours home to play with for a couple days
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>>738558196
I had consent, seethe. Obvious virgin bait.
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>>738546956
I'm not allergic to kbm. I'm just getting old and want to lie down.
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>>738544603
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>>738544434
asking unironically
what use are the trackpads on a controller like this other than an extra eight face button inputs
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>>738562802
They allow for extra steam input choices.
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The worst part about gyro on all controllers is that most games don't allow you to use gamepad control with gyro. So your gamepads binds will be KB ones and not XABY. Or they will switch between KB and XABY every time you move gyro or press gamepad button. This is very annoying.
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>>738562802
I'm sure they come in handy when playing older PC games that were never designed for controllers in the first place.
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>>738562802
You can use them in flight simulators
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>>738562979
but the games were likely designed for actual mice instead of trackpads
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>>738563120
You can bind some complex shortcuts with steam input. With swipes
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>>738563120
And? Is that supposed to stop me?
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>>738544434
>a track pad thats already been on controllers is causing retards to pass & shit themselves
Oki
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>>738563243
i mean it'd likely at least make it harder, i guess
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>>738563120
Your thumb across a track pad is basically 1 to 1 a mouse. It's a thumb sized mouse on a miniature mouse pad, because your thumb IS the mouse
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>>738548015
It's not slop if it's good
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>>738546098
Correct
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>>738563570
It's over for americans...
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>>738556915
requires steam to be open
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>>738547493
No
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>>738545946
AI post
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Has anyone here tried using it for DS emulation? There are some games like TWEWY and Phantom Hourglass that I was considering it for due to the trackpads.
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>>738544434
Barely anyone who actually wanted to use this were actually able to buy it. Most of the current sales of this are from scalpers that bought in bulk.
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>>738562802
they can be nice for menuing
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>>738556667
so you can navigate your os from your couch if you want to watch and or play stuff on the tv with other people instead of sitting at a desk by yourself

…(You) do have other people, right anon?!
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I can't wait to personally hand Gaben my $600 for the gabecube while we're on his yacht together
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>>738546204
I don't think that many people have an LED fetish like that.
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>>738562802
Can be mouse, mouse in a very specified region, virtual menus which you can cram with like 20 inputs for menu heavy PC games (get to label them and even add little icons if you want too), the trackpads are unironically filthy for fighting game inputs, can turn them into a trackball for trackball arcade games, scroll wheel, it works really well as a camera in first or third person games because you can smack the trackpad as an input that feels wayyyy better than stick clicking so you can put something like jump on the trackpad in a platformer so you can handle the camera while jumping still

It's a crazy useful input you just gotta learn steam input by fiddling around to get use out of it
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>>738544567
I've been saying this for fucking years.
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>>738563792
well, it sucks ass on the steam deck. I know that. just fucking use your mouse
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>>738544434
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>>738563792
It definitely works, you just have to be pretty proficient at setting up steam input fuckery and it might be a difficult first project.

There's a mouse region setting, where the mouse will stay in a specific area. You want to set it up so that it stays roughly in the square of the touch screen without straying out too far but also not having too limited of a range of motions within the touch screen. This will make it so that putting your thumb down on a part of the trackpad will essentially have a fixed location on the touch screen, you'll also need to change a setting where the mouse resets to where it was before the mouse region and have it stay where it's at as that'll probably feel better for orienting yourself. Depending on the game it might feel better to have the touch screen activate on click or on touch or have touch be a different input entirely.

t. Made Kid Icarus Uprising work with the Steam Controller 1
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>>738563792
I haven't tried it but a mouse region for each half of the touch screen is probably the way
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>>738544434
>It doesn't even have x-input
this, steam controller is shit
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>>738547260
you cant switch from mkb to controller on poe2 and you cant use the trackpads when you use the controller input lol
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>>738565964
Retard-sama. You're supposed to wait until every device you use has its own special driver for this one specific controller.
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>>738566180
meme all you want you know im right, i just think valve are faggots for not putting on xinput to be on when you turn off steam for universal use they would have sold more i would have instantly bought one
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>>738566281
okay, buy the chinese controller, use windows, support xinput, eat the bugs, and live in the pods then.

Your life is designed for you.
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>>738566307
well why would i buy a controller that doesnt work for the majority of the games i own off steam, if anything me buying a steam controller because its from steam is eating the bugs which is what you are advocating
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>>738566518
he's just a steamie
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>>738566518
then dont buy it and continue using inferior technology. the rest of us will enjoy our superiority
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>>738566518
That's the question you should've asked before you clicked on this thread and started shitting and pissing.



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