How do we bring back the dungeon crawler?
>Don't make them a gatcha>Give them more of a focus on the characters (for example the party chat feature from DQ would be sweet in one of these)>More of a story>Hot anime girls>Faster movement
>>738546817Making a new Etrian Odyssey or Elminage
>>738546817Try Vampire Crawlers, just came out and it’s an ok game and cheap
>>738547024>anime girlsWould be an instant non buy. I like turn based tactics but never played valkeria chronicles because weeb shit
>>738546817Didn't dark and darker do pretty well during its beta? Whatever happened to that game
>>738547024so something like Shining The Holy Ark?
>>738546817There needs to be a much greater emphasis on:>trapfinding>avoiding encounters you know are too deadly to tackle>managing inventory, including abandoning tools in order to have space for treasure to bring backMost of the Wizardry games the Japanese love and base the whole JRPG genre off of focus WAY too much on the endless combat encounters, which is absolutely NOT what early D&D (i.e. the fucking RPGs Wizardry was inspired by) was about.
>>738549697I don’t play it any more and I don’t know how popular it still is, but it just released a new season or reset or whatever a few days ago, so it must be getting played by someone
darkest dungeon did a great job reinventing the dungeon crawler.I think you could steal a lot of game design elements from DD and make a completely different kind of dungeon crawler. Too bad everyone only sees and copies the rogue lite elements and the position based turn based combat.
>>738550352Sadly even red hook couldn’t replicate darkest dungeon, the second one was garbage, not because of the stage coach or the progression that most people complain about but because the classes almost all felt like shit to play and half of the skills in the game were far to niche to ever feel useful
>>738546817I would've loved Dragon's Dogma's expac island as a whole game, as much as I love the traditional turn based RPGs I think that could've been a good way of keeping the idea aliveMaybe add EO style map drawing on top, every game could use more of that
>>738550675I'm not a huge fan of rogue lites and the gameplay was not to my taste either but I still recognise that the first Darkest Dungeon was a really great game, just not to my taste.I wonder how well you could copy the vibes and mechanics of prepping for a dungeon run and slowly working through a dangerous dungeon in a more traditional RPG
>>738546817Stop making every game about loot, and start making it about unique or emergent experiences while exploring.
>>738550675Speaking of DD, any good mod recommendations for that one?
>>738551139>dungeon crawlers>"Stop making every game about loot"Yes, we should follow the footsteps of all those indie LGBTQ games where we delve dungeons to beat capitalism or find our inner lesbian. That seems like a much better motivation to risk one's life in a deadly crypt.
>>738547024>>Hot anime girlsno fuck off
>>738551203I never modded it, would love to see just a mod to fix the balance of skills/classes, especially for the second game
>>738549520It's mediocre as a card game and dungeon crawler but it does a good job tickling your endorphins.
>>738551238shut your fucking face you uncle fucker
>>738546817Elven Bimbos>>738552623kill yourself
>>738552258Yeah, it’s not super amazing but it’s cheap and fun for a while, sadly I don’t know any decent middle of the road games that are dungeon crawlers, it’s all just super light games like vampire crawlers or intensely autistic grindfests with overloaded mechanics like labyrinth of refrain
>>738547024>more focus on characters>more storyIsn't this what jarpigs are for? The attraction of dungeon crawlers is that they're straight RPG gameplay: exploration, killing shit, and bringing back loot.
>>738552905faggot gayass
>>738549614You're a midwit
Too many DCs go all in on the geartism and combat while ignoring the atmosphere or characters in the actual journey.You really need to think about what should the experience be like traversing this.
>>738546817suggestion: let people build their own dungeons with a powerful tool and share them online like doom wads or nwn modules or warcraft3 maps
>>738546817I'm actually pretty disappointed there aren't more Legend of Grimrock clones out there today.Hell, even Labyrinth of Refrain was really fun for a while.Galleria was rushed as fuck, basically killed the genre for a while. Fuck NIS for that one.
>>738558720I was working on a very simple version of this but there's no working game to go with it and I will never finish it, so it's really just a shoddy mapping app.
make them easier
I love dungeon crawlers, but a few things over time have sort of worn them out for me even if they might be a tradition or just common in general, those being:>Lack of visible characters you can watch get progressively kitted out.>too many characters to control per turn, I prefer 2 - 3 at most.>Grimrock and some others breaking pace by inserting too many puzzles>usually somewhat uninteresting visuals, locations, and enemies both visually and tactic wise
>>738558720wizardry five ordeals has user made dungeons the editor is browser only though and possibly not fully translated
>>738546817Download Dragons Dogma
>>738549614Enjoy ugly bitches anon, more power to you
>Give it FF12/Xenoblade or Action RPG combat>Make the combat rewarding>Put in cool dudes, funny dudes, cute women, hags, and muscle mommies as the playable charactersThat's all you need, desu.
>>738563409>Action combat>playable characters>Gacha imageYou just want more gacha slop anon, fix yourself
>>738563307that female that looks like nu-cloud is ugly, the mulatta on the right is actually the most attractive character
>>738563663>brown>attractiveOk anon you dont like the hot asian but you love the brown. Ok anon. Even she knows your lying
It would also be cool if we got more dungeon crawlers in other settings. A science fantasy one could be kino.>>738563568I think it's an original character. Also, I hate gacha games and only "enjoy" them for the fan art of the characters.
>>738563849Looks almost identical to a zzz chara, also stop jacking it to gacha girls its sinful, do it to regular anime games instead
>>738563810i bet you coom over Sheva because it's made by japs
>>738563931No it brown also resi is exempt from anything because the devs are westaboos
>>738564010you just posted an image with a brown elf on the left side
>>738564118Different, she is a cartoon and her brown has pointy ears. If you can't tell the difference you are gay.
>>738564167You seem low IQ
>>738564252You seem more pressed about defending your brown queens than staying on topic.
>>738564316it's very common with low IQ autists to only find simplistic and stylized cartoon people to be pretty
>>738546817By buying Deep Dish Dungeon day 1.
>>738564423You would rather fuck right than left? That's what your saying right? Your precious wrpgs have hot characters right? I may be autistic but at least my brain recognises attractive people vs turn on the blinders to prove a point
>>738547024You're just describing Labyrinth of Refrain though the character focus isn't the actual party members. Still a great game.
>>738564640why did you compare her to Tifa rather than that female cloud looking character?Realize you were wrong?
>>738564838cause they are the same style of character from the same franchise buffoon
>>738564939But Tifa is attractive and the other one is ugly
>>738565019if ur gay yeh
>>738546817The current generation of ADHD corporate zombies would enjoy Dungeon Crawlers? Lol.
>perfect template for roguelite slop everyone loves>the best anyone can do are MMO simulators or pixelshit indie games with awful art and game designGaming is dead.
>>738565054i'm gay if i don't like mtf looking trash?
literally it doesn't get any better than NWN modules
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>>738546817You’re welcome to crawl through a dungeon at any point :)
it would be fun to have a dungeon crawler focusing more on the gameplay and characters instead of story or gear or progressionlike being able to choose a voice, disposition, advantage/disadvantage, fears, talents and having your characters work together or fight and banter and using things like dousing fire with water that you need to carry, rope to swing across large gaps, fire arrows, making traps and disarming enemy traps, luring enemies with food, sound levels mattering and so oni only need a barebones story like >in the world of gugelheim the great wizard insanius has sent you to the black abyss to retrieve the sword of ultimate wisdom in exchange for your souls returned to youand boom you're off
>>738546817I love how dripped out the knights in this are. Alex goes around with that fancy ornament on his head, in a role where he'll probably take some hits right on the noggin.
>>738565546>character creator>romance options>the dungeon while the focus, isn't everything in the game>there is a world to explore outside>3rd person, over the shoulder view>extensive clothing system>uses a system similar to DaS where other players can enter your world to co-op or PvP, travelers you can meet really>so that griefing and ganking isn't the solo focus of online multiplayer would require systems to encourage working together>parties, guilds, contracts, events that require cooperation>music instruments you can play
If I try Daphne should I just use the steam release or will it give my pc aids
>>738546817Play xandu next
>>738549614based retard
>>738549697>>738550260game was amazing for the first like 4-5 teststhey just hacked it up thoughapparently it's getting decent again, haven't played in some time
