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>After seeing how bad Prime 4 flopped many Japanese fans have expressed concerns about the future of the series, citing how it would be better if it wasn’t a Nintendo IP
Do you agree /v/? I honestly think Sony should buy it, they would do an amazing job with it
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Sony ? So Metroid can get the "better man" cinematic experience ? lol no
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Prime 4 wasn't bad because of Nintendo. Or rather, it was bad because Nintendo didn't get involved. Nintendo doesn't have anyone in house that can make a good Metroid game so they hire other 3rd parties to make the games for them, and it seems neither Bandai-Namco or Retro were capable of making a good Metroid game.
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>>738551294
sony would make it a trannie filled extraction shooter with no campaign and would make samus bald and black.

the problem is not nintendo, the problem is retro, dread was made by jp and was great. retro needs sacked yesterday
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Nintendo just need to let go of their ego since they don't have the quality anymore to justify it, and let new guest studios make entries.
no more nu-retro
no more m*rcury steam
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>>738551294
dont say bad things about nintendo please, it makes me feel bad because they gave me a good childhood.
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>>738551452
bandai couldn't do worse than retro.
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>>738551294
I don't want a new Metroid game about a single father, so I'd rather it stick with Nintendo.
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>>738551452
Addendum: I think if Nintendo were smart, they'd actually hire indie developers to lead teams of Nintendo employees in making Nintendo games. Very few indie devs would pass up the opportunity to make the next big Metroid, Zelda, Star Fox, F-Zero, or etc game, they already come with the talent and vision to make a good game, and you boost their potential creative output several times with some of the best programmers/artists/musicians in the industry.

They already do that with Sakurai and Smash Bros (though Sakurai isn't exactly an indie dev, he has his own dev studio separate from Nintendo). Give the Fast Racing RMX guys a crack at a new F-Zero. Give the Hollow Knight guys a crack at a new Metroid. Hell, give the Pal World guys a crack at Pokemon since Nintendo owns 1/3rd of it and can strong arm Game Freak.
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>>738551452
Retro is Nintendo. Just like Naughty Dog is Sony
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Eeeeh, Sony would sit on it and do nothing because it's a platformer IP and Prime would end up implementing PvP in some way completely missing the tone of the series. It would need a third-party publisher interested on releasing games.
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>>738551294
Under Sony, Samus would be like that Karen of Returnal
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>>738551681
God no seeing how the dead cell devs ruined castlevania it would be a disaster
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>>738551294
oh boo hoo
where are most other IPs these days?
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>>738551681
They literally can't do anything for mainline Pokemon games without Game Freaks consent. It was literally part of the tera leaks (since proved legitimate due to Wind/Wave) that Nintendo actively was bringing up the idea of other companies like Square Enix or Koei Tecmo making a mainline Pokemon game and Game Freak categorically shot them down. Pokopia was likely made as a compromise.
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>>738551452
>Prime 4 wasn't bad because of Nintendo. Or rather, it was bad because Nintendo didn't get involved
Okay so Star Fox better be amazing
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>>738551681
I’m pretty sure this ends up very bad more frequently than good
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can you imagine how fucking boring and gay a sony metroid would be
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>>738552026
Other M and Prime 4 are Playstation-coded
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I think it's a combination of both Tanabe's and Retro's incompetence that made the game suck. The game relied on feeling like Prime when the game was not designed to be like Prime.
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>>738551294
Given that it was some studio in Texass that made Metroid Prime 4 I'd have to say no.
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Making Metroid games is easy. It's got a very simple formula.
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>>738551294
Get the niggas at Sunsoft involved they made Blaster Master and Hebereke
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>>738551396
Metroid is probably one of the only IPs Sony wouldn't butcher since they could spend the entire time building her up as some badass slay queen.
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>>738552332
t. delusional sonyfag
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>>738552201
Austin, Texas to be specific. All the actual Texans left Austin and it's now full of Californians.
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nobody cares metroid, no matter they do
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>>738552297
I only ever played Blaster Master Zero and it was very linear. Metroid is best when it's got actual exploration elements.
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>>738552484
Blaster Master on the NES and Hebereke are textbook Search Action games
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Retro studios are fine, and they should lead development of the next Prime. The development of MP4 was just really hellish and just not well put together at all. Certain pushes from the top lead the game to having a tacked-on open world and terrible characters.
It's *one* miss. They'll do better next time
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>>738552451
The new gold standard for Metroidvanias is Hollow Knight, Rabi-Ribi, and Blasphemous.
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>>738552484
Zero wasn't made by Sunsoft
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>>738552418
I'm not sure how I'm a sonyfag when I think that there's only a handful of games they wouldn't instantly ruin. Those games need to either have a woman or person of color as the protagonist and Metroid fits the bill.
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>>738552559
Retro can't make shit without a tard wrangler in charge. They tried to make Harmony on Wii U and failed.
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>>738552754
>Those games need to either have a woman or person of color as the protagonist and Metroid fits the bill
but sony never gets those right, its always netflix type roles
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>>738552907
It's insane how nintendo hold on to studios like retro and let them waste so much time on dumb shit like Harmony. I hope retro gets their act together
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>>738552754
Samus is cool and sexy, Sony would change her
I'd be afraid they'd turn Metroid into Menopausal/Saaros shit
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>>738552754
>Those games need to either have a woman
Trans woman or lesbian FTFY
The first thing Sony would do with Metroid is confirm that Samus is trans and give her a black girlfriend resembling Bazz
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>>738551294
every series would be better without nintendo
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nah, Nintendo is the right company for Metroid. The only problem is that they don't have enough in-house teams in order to make a Metroid game because it's not their biggest priority, and they have to hire external studios to make them. Probably this will change once they finish the new building and hire more developers
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>>738551294
We already got a Sony Metroid, it's called Other M.
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>>738551294
Sony would make Samus a tranny, add woke shit and then turn the game into a shooter game, Ridley would be comic relief

The problem with Metroid isn't Nintendo, the problem is it isn't Nintendo making them, the first bad games were made by Mercury Steam
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Samus should play as fast paced. She's essentially a super soldier. Being slow doesn't really fit her mainline Metroid games. Other M had the right idea but wasn't well executed. I prefer if they tried again and had better controls. Also having her being a mute in the Metroid Prime is odd since it treats her as someone with autism since she doesn't talk/interact with the people that are directly talking to her.
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depends on what studio develops the game
>Guerilla: Samus won't shut the fuck up, and it's an open world game with tons of cringy background characters.
>Sucker Punch: Open world revenge story with tons of random side things to do to improve samus' armor and weapon
>naughty dog: Samus need to help space jews
>santa monica: Samus is a mom and needs to help her child
>insomica: Samus has a bunch of set piece quick time event, side quest about helping gay humans. also she's really ugly
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>>738552907
A cancelled game and a flop isn't good reason to can a studio who started the games in the first place. This would be like telling Capcom to pawn DMC off to Sega after DMC2 released.
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>>738552072
This. If those games were released on Playstation, Snoys would hail them as the pinnacle of gaming.
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>>738553718
Oh, and I played Metroid Prime 4 a few days ago. Got so bored by how slow and slogging it was I stopped playing after two hours.
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>>738551294
Let's see
>Under microslop MP4 would have either gotten canned in the planning phase or rushed and shat out, made some profit, then gotten the studio axed anyway.
>Under ziony the game would come out in 2040 and be nothing but CINEMATIC cuckoldy fetish and lesbian goyslop.
>Under valve the game would still be on early access, only have one level done, and it will never get finished, but it will get a MOBA mode where valve can sell you casino tokens pretending to be game cosmetics.
>Under EA/jewbisoft/whoever the fuck the game would just be a hero shooter or extraction slop with casino lootbox elements.
>Under chink devs the game would have no gameplay and sell you safehorny suits as gacha rolls.
>Under crapcom the game would just be RE3make.
>Konami would not give a shit because it's not one of their AA lovechild franchises, a train game, or a rhythm one, so they would just throw it at either pajeets or rando westoid indie devs, whoever asks first.
>Under bamco the game would be the exact same but with less content and nearly triple the price with cosmetics DLC.
>Under shartlus the game would not be out until 2050 and by then faglus would have either declared bankruptcy or sold out to chinks and gooks harder than they already have.
>Under SE the game would have a third of the content it does, have a gorillion niggers, and only now you would be hearing of metroid prime 4 part 2 being announced.
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>>738553305
Most of Retro's key talent left years ago. What Retro needs is restructuring to get rid of activists and dead weight.
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>>738552680
Anon this is a blue board.
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>>738552754
t. delusional sonyfag
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Jesus Christ.
Considering what else could have happened with Metroid under any other owner, it's in a decent spot.
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>>738553391
She would end up with a black lesbian at the end.
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>>738553856
Yeah they left to go make Halo 4 and Destiny 2 LMAOOOO they already removed the dead weight from the looks of it.
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>>738551294
Hell no. For all its other faults, at least Samus in Prime 4 is still Samus.
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>>738551681
After slay the spire 2 I completely lost all trust on westoid indie devs.
The ENTIRE westoid vidya industry needs to crash, die, and stay fucking dead.
>Hell, give the Pal World guys a crack at Pokemon
They still haven't finished palworld itself, the game itself is full of bugs still, and you expect them to be competent for anything official?
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>>738553718
>Samus should play as fast paced. She's essentially a super soldier
so like Dread and to a lesser extent Samus Returns?
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>OP is just a snoy begging for games in a VERY slightly subtle manner
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>>738553775
>A cancelled game and a flop isn't good reason to can a studio who started the games in the first place
it should be
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>>738554068
No that anon is a faggot.

Bring back floaty physics from Super to make the series feel strange like she's actually on another planet, then when you get super speed the difference feels bigger
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>>738554068
Yes, but in 3D. It can be done. The problem is finding the right studio. Years ago, it would've been Platinum but not so sure nowadays.
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All right, we all agree most devs would shit a worse product than Prime 4/Other M
But who could actually deliver? It can be with Nintendo/Retro assistance if you want
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>>738554095
>subtle manner
>"sony should buy nintendo ip and make games!"
kek
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>>738554013
MP4 is one of the most disappointing games of all time, so not really. Dread is the franchises only saving grace in nearly 20 years.

Funny how both Metroid and Castlevania are completely fucking mismanaged.
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>>738554183
>No that anon is a faggot.
no he's right

>>738554212
>The problem is finding the right studio
as of right now there are basically no good game devs left
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>>738554279
Absolutely! And it could be SO MUCH WORSE.
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>>738554279
>and Castlevania
I find a lot of irony behind the fact the best castlevania has to offer happened under nintendo hardware, and the franchise only went to shit when it tried to "modernize" with lords of shadow.
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>>738554279
>Funny how both Metroid and Castlevania are completely fucking mismanaged
God the new castlevania game doesn't even look like a castlevania game. I'm so fucking mad, but at least there's still Bloodstained and I pray to god that it turns out as good as Ritual of the Night.
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>>738554219
I could. Give me a job at Nintendo and I'd make a Metroid better than Super.
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>>738554228
Yes, sarcasm is a thing.
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>>738554464
Retro Studio is somehow hiring, so give it a shot
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>>738554219
The AM2R guy. The one man they should have hired.
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>>738551294
Without Nintendo? No

Without Tanabe and Sakamoto? Yes, these two stopped giving a fuck about what the elements that made super and prime all time greats
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>>738551452
>it seems neither Bandai-Namco or Retro were capable of making a good Metroid game.
Not when they had Nintendo's Tanabe telling them what to do.
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I really believe now with Tanabe gone they are in better hands, the game may be the best looking Nintendo game so far and the music is still good like in previous entries
They just need better level design and get rid of the yapping or fully commit to a good story if they want to have chatty characters
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>>738554587
>austin tx
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>>738551452
Retro is a first party studio and the project was headed by an EPD officer
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Low effort xitter thread, translated with the retarded tool called Grok. I'm brapping it, with no survivors.
*BRRRRRRAAAPPPPPPPPP*
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>>738554587
>nintendo is letting these dumb fucks hire more people
>retro is still not closed after prime 4
good god
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>>738551294
Nitendo is the reason it's still alive to this day actually
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>>738554587
Wasn't being serious anon, I'm a talentless faggot. Would be nice to work in gamedev someday though
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>>738554670
My optimistic outlook is that the new Retro guys have come out of the MP4 hellpit as better developers. They seem to have made every mistake possible during development. There's just no way they didn't learn something from that.
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>>738555007
and the shitty writers were only contracted for prime 4 so they already moved on
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>>738554587
>>738554751
Fun fact: They already hired some devs from the dead Bluepoint
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>>738551396
Why are you so fucking deranged about Sony?
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In the sense that they clearly don't know what to do with the series half the time, yeah, they are holding the series back.

>>738551941
It's base 64 + cutscenes, a challenge mode and online multiplayer. It's a hard thing to truly fuck up, but I do expect them to flub the cutscenes, because Nintendo can't into story.
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>>738554212
I adore Platinum but I wouldn't want them to make a Metroid game. Maybe Capcom should do it because they make fun fast paced action shooters vaguely like what 3D Zero Mission should be.
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>>738555125
>Sony is technically going to be making the next Prime game
>because it's actually ex sony devs
lol what a timeline
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>>738551515
>dread was made by jp
MercurySteam: A Spanish developer
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>>738551294
So far every single nintendo game was proven to be better off in the hands of others, so yes. It probably would be
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>>738552680
>Rabi-Ribi
No one cares about this, and no one ever did.
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>>738551294
it might prevent a much darker tone but without nintendo. metroid would have died long ago. it never was a big seller
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>>738551294
metroid is literally a ripoff of alien
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>>738552559
nah eat shit tranny
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>if Sony was in charge of Metroid
It would end up the same as their other IPs that failed to sell
bamco, please review this series!
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>>738551294
Prime 4 flopped because it was Prime 4, not because it was a Metroid game.
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>>738551681
If indie game devs are so good then why not just play them? Do you really need to see your favorite copyrighted characters that badly?
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>>738552680
>Rabi-Ribi
>metroidvania
lol
lmao even
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>>738551294
Wasn't talking about the game quality, but the audience size. Feeling that Metroid doesn't have enough reach because it's only available on Nintendo hardware.
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>>738552680
>Metroidvanias is Hollow Knight
absurdly low bar if true
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>>738551294
Nu-nintendo sucks yeah but there are a ton of good metroidvanias on steam we don't need the company that calls itself Nintendo.
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>>738556517
That's a bit more reasonable because he's talking about different audiences, not different people actually making the game. I still think the Nintendo audience is generally more suited to a wacky space adventure than the Sony gamer dad audience. There's a risk of it being not dark and edgy enough for someone who wants more The Last of Us.
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>>738551294
It's hard to think of a first-party IP that wouldn't be better without Nintendo at this point. All of their IPs are either second-party, given the Disney Vault treatment, or being actively ruined by hacks like Miyamoto and Aonuma who everyone else is too much of a pussy to ever say no to.
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>>738551294
Metroid Prime 4 is just bad, the other games did fine even if on super low selling consoles.
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>>738551294
I just don't care about Metroid Prime. I never played one past the first one because it felt too slow and boring. Metroid Dread is the direction Metroid should continue going.
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>>738551681
But Nintendo isn't smart, so not only do they not hire indie devs, they don't hire people who like video games at all in the first place.
>thats retarded
Yep, just like 90% of the other shit they've spent 20+ years doing "because Miyamoto". Not even because Miyamoto said to, but as an attempt to validate him by enforcing views he vaguely espoused on random aspects of their business plan.
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>>738551452
>Prime 4 wasn't bad because of Nintendo
>It's just bad because Nintendo can't make a good metroid game themselves and also can't pick a good third party studio to make one
Sounds a lot like it's bad because of Nintendo at that point.
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>>738557019
>It's hard to think of a first-party IP that wouldn't be better without Nintendo at this point
I disagree, the rest of the industry is in a way worse shape and there's only a couple of studios that could do better. You can discard the entire westoid industry to begin with.
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Other companies have made better Zelda games, better Mario games, and better kart games.
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>>738557283
They have iterated over Nintendo ideas and made a few improvements while fucking up in several other areas, yes. Hardly better.
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>>738557175
>they don't hire people who like video games at all in the first place.
Nigga they have put up a game a month for over half a year now.
NDSgroids really are insane.
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>>738551294
yes
metroid would be better under nortubel
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NDS thread yet again, snoys should go play saaros or some shit
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>>738557281
a tendie will always disagree but mario kart was awful and the rest so bad its not worth mentioning
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>Prime 4
>extra cinematic
>extra talkative
>gameplay is nothing of note
>fails
It's already a Sony game. I would love to hear some retard tell me how this is better for Metroid than Nintendo owning it.
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>>738551396
Jesus man
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>>738551294
Yes. Same deal with pokeshit
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>>738551396
meds schizo
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>>738555264
>Mysterio tricked Norman Osborn into thinking he slept with Gwen Stacy so an AI of Harry Osborn could trick Norman into thinking he had other kids
...Comics are dumb,
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>>738551396
The four previous replies to this post are from the same faggot.
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>>738557343
No, this is literally something Miyamoto said. He doesn't want to hire an "avid gamer" because he thinks if even one of your main hobbies is gaming all you'll want to do is recreate the games you've played.
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>>738557883
>because he thinks if even one of your main hobbies is gaming all you'll want to do is recreate the games you've played.
that's just true tho, that's why the "avid gamers" releasing slop for the kikebarrier and spamming shovelware on steam can only copy nowadays
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>>738557995
I understand your general position, but the only way you arrive at the conclusion that people who enjoy video games are the problem is by being deliberately obtuse.
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>>738556540
Considering how only Prime 1 passed any kind of bar (due to glitches), it seems high enough.
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>>738551294
>>738552332
>>738552754
Can you give me some examples of Sony's PS4 and PS5 games that lead you to believe they're capable of making a Metroid game that isn't consantly bringing the pacing to a screeching halt to talk your ear off or drop another unskippable cutscene?

Or maybe you could tell me how Samus might benefit from being more like these "classic" Playstation female characters that are still being celebrated today, such as... y'know... redhead?
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>>738551294
After seeing what Sony and Microsoft did to their franchises, hell no. Sony is slowly recovering realizing that that AAA shit is a disaster, Microsoft is dead in the water. Only other company I would accept taking Metroid would be Valve. Only a retard wants anyone else to own Metroid other than Nintendo, you can't give me any reason why Sony and ESPECIALLY Microsoft should ever own Metroid.
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>>738551294
Who gives a fuck what Japan thinks, they don’t buy Metroid games. It’s more popular in the west

>sony would do it justice
Lmao
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If Sony owned literally any Nintendo IP, that IP would be dead.
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>>738551681
I'm mildly surprised nothing else like the Necrodancer crossover had happened where Nintendo basically takes an indie company and goes "Hey wanna make an official spinoff?" Cadence of Hyrule was pretty decent for what it was, and some of the boss puns were good for a chuckle.
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>Sony
Why? So they can do literally nothing with it?
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>>738551294
>Sony
>They'll turn Samus into a dyke
>They'll fuck up her face by giving her a man jaw just like they did with Mary Jane in the spiderman 2 game
>pride flags everywhere in the game
>more miles mckenzie tier characters except they'll be cucks and faggots
Ew....
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>>738558550
It really should be a common practice. Sega did it with Sonic Mania and the results were stellar.
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>>738551294
Metroid has got to be the most 'What-If', 'Oohh the potential' series ever. The performative Metroid fanbase (they've never actually played any of the games) need to get off the smoke of their own fantasy and delusion.
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Why stop at selling one IP to Sony? Sony needs to buy the entire company and merge it with Playstation. Let's face it autendies: Shitendo cannot make good games anymore because Shitendo refuses to make good video game hardware. Only on Playstation can Nintendo games finally thrive.
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>>738558550
Unfortunately that would require Nintendo to understand that people who like their games and IPs are not the enemy.
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>>738558338
>Can you give me some examples of Sony's PS4 and PS5 games that lead you to believe they're capable of making a Metroid game that isn't consantly bringing the pacing to a screeching halt to talk your ear off or drop another unskippable cutscene?
unironically returnal, which would be a good template for a metroid game
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>>738558761
>Sega did it with Sonic Mania
And then sega forbid the devs from further bugfixing or making more content for the game.
This is always used as an example of "good" practices without knowing sega fucked them in the ass anyway, you're retarded.
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>>738558880
>"good"
Who are you quoting?
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>>738558830
>snoys have so few games (none in fact) to the point they are already portbegging like on the ps4-wii u era
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>>738558871
I don't want granny Samus
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>snoys fantasizing having games on their barrierstation 5 thread #83120480
lmao
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>>738558761
Sonic Mania being a massive hit also pissed Sonic Team off really badly, so it's unlikely the Mania devs will ever be allowed to touch the franchise.
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>>738558929
>barrier
What is this new buzzword
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Does PS5 really have so little to play that you have to beg for Nintendo games? Pathetic.
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>>738558550
I play Cadence again now and then, thinking one day I'll clear a daily run. Danny really fired on all cylinders for that soundtrack. I thought when they announced that we'd get more fun spinoffs like that, but the closest thing to that since is uh, Pokopia I think.
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>>738551294
>the biggest thing holding back [20+ year old franchise] is copyright
Yeah, no shit.
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>>738558790
>what-if oh the potential
You are the one who has never played a title apparently. Metroid has gotten Super, Zero Mission, Fusion, Samus Returns, and now Dread, all of which are good, great, or fantastic. There are other middling entries but few true dogshit titles. There's "potential" for them to finally make a game that's as good as Super again(unlikely) but there have been plenty of respectable entries just in 2D. It's on a definite upswing after the improvement between Samus Returns and Dreaad from Mercurysteam.
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>>738558761
I think it would have been the perfect approach for revisiting Star Fox 64. Making new levels with the N64 style assets instead of just doing a straight remake of all the same levels with UE5 hire this man graphics.
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>>738551396
>OP got so butthurt he samefagged FPBP 4 times
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>Metroid Prime 4 flops
>Universal and Sony are now in a race to see who can make the Metroid film.
>universal wants to make it horror centric.
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>>738558928
you can already play as actual samus instead of the granny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULGbtq0GauM
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>>738551294
Modern Nutendo blows. The few people who knew how to make games are gone. Miyamoto is a talentless hack who took credit for other people's work.
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>>738558965
Capcom called the PS5 a barrier because MH wilds sold like shit
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>>738558961
Yes, and what good did that do for Sonic Team? Maybe if they finally decided to stop being so jealous and spiteful of foreigners after thirty years, they might find themselves in a position that's a little less "laughing stock of the industry."
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>>738559196
They’re right the ps5 doesn’t sell games
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>>738559003
>between Samus Returns and DREEAYYYYEEAAAD
not arguing, that typo just made me read it that way
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>>738558965
Capcom CEO got butthurt about MH Wilds flopping and scapegoated the PS5 over it, calling the cost of the platform a barrier to sales.

All of their Switch 2 releases have sold monumentally worse.
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>>738559079
Yeah, through a mod.
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>>738552332
I do not want Samus making quips
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Okay well Dread came out and was pretty good, Sony sure as fuck hasn't made anything even close to that in a while.
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>>738551294
Been following this guy for years. His vids and tweets go stupid deep into Metroid. Dude is 100% right. Metroid would’ve blown up way harder if it wasn’t shackled to Nintendo’s ecosystem.
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I'm down for a Metroid game developed by id software
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>>738558986
>commie is already showing his retardation
Ohnononononono pffft
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>>738558921
Did you like my post? I worked very hard on it.
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>>738551572
They were trying to make MP4 a open world game so they most certainly can do worse than Retro.
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>>738559278
I respect that
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>>738558880
>abloo bloo bloo
Don't care, not gonna stop wanting good games.
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>>738559413
They're owned by Microshit now, I don't want Microstank on the franchise. Xbox needs to die and they need to start outsourcing their IPs while being hands-off. Anyone who legits want current Microsoft on Nintendo IPs need the bullet, worse than fucking Snoys.
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>>738559413
>I want bootleg sekiroslop but in first person.
How about no.
You should suck on a 9mm pacifier instead.
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>>738559413
METITEM BROS WE WON
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>>738558761
man, I gotta love how people always glaze sega for hiring fans that one time but always ignore the part sega treated them like shit that they don't want to work with them anymore because they rushed them to make origins, also refusing to let them fix the collection and handed sonic mania sequel to arzest
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>>738551294
LMAO. If Sony or Microsoft owned it they would have killed it ages ago
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>>738558965
Capcom called the PS5 a barrier for success after MH Wilds had zero legs
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>>738559731
You're right anon, collaboration with indie devs should never ever ever happen ever again in a million years because some Jap got butthurt.
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>>738551294

Metroid isnt dead. But Halo and Marathon is.
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>>738555308
It still has threads on /v/ every once in a while and when I replayed it last year I had a blast. There is still nothing else like it, not even when looking at the devs recent works.
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>>738559826
I would rather have westoids all exist the vidya industry forever, indies included.
No westoid should work on a video game ever again, only people with japanese blood and citizenship should be making games, gooks and chinks should fuck off too.
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>>738559957
I would rather you just grow up but clearly neither of us are gonna have our way.
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>>738559997
When you grow up you realize westoids are all incompetent and don't deserve to exist anon.
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If I was in charge of Prime, I would add more mobility options for Samus. I'd add sprinting via Speed Booster, crouching, wall running, ledge grabbing, and wall kicking. Then I'd design a Perfect Dark style multiplayer mode that utilizes level design with these movement options. I'd allow bots and teams for both PVE and PVP experiences. Gamechat can be a thing but it hides your screen unless you're on the same team. There's death match, coin hunters, capture the flag, and bounty hunt. I'd even allow creatures as a toggle on and off. Depending on game mode monsters and mini-bosses give points/coins.

Single player I want to utilize a new engine where in an area all rooms are rendered. So that way shortcuts and sequence breaks can be easier to design.
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>>738558761
>Sega did it with
we are still in this stage believing this retardation? kill yourself
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>>738559717
it's over for diorroidcels
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>>738560078
see >>738559826

or keep samefagging that's fine too
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>>738557676
but hey, paul's dead so it's all good
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>>738551294
After what I saw happen to castlevania I wouldn't trust any western dev let alone an american dev
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metroid would be dead without nintendo. so many dead franchises out there and metroid join them if nintendo didn't own it. what happened to halo or recore 2?
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>>738558852
Mario X rabbids
Fzero 99
Metroid dread
Zelda echoes of wisdom
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>>738551452
How powerful is Myles Fucking MacKenzie?
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>>738558871
Returnal isn’t similar to Metroid at all, the only thing it has I. Common is a female protagonist
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>>738560362
HATE Myles. The sniper guy is okay though.
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>>738559280
> All of their Switch 2 releases have sold monumentally worse.
Reminder that the re collection sold best on switch, they literally thanked switch two for helping pragmata, and PS5 pragmata sales have fallen behind S2 in Japan
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Metroid Prime would have been like a 7/10 as an original IP rather than people just being relieved that they hadn't turned Metroid into a Quake clone. Nobody can make good Metroid games.
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>>738560115
>samefagging
you are mentally raped and it shows by still believing that retardation of "sega hired random fans!!!!!"
kill yourself
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>>738560530
>"sega hired random fans!!!!!"
Who are you quoting?
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>>738560521
Quake with Metroid abilities sounds fun.
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>>738557281
Just because other studios have also fucked up doesn't mean Nintendo has been a good steward of their own IPs. We already know for a fact that F-Zero and Star Fox are better off with other studios. And Nintendo has now ruined Zelda so severely that it would objectively be better off with Capcom again (and I'm not a huge fan of modern Capcom either).
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>>738560873
Fzero fags and foxfags deserve nothing tho.
You should be kneeling over even getting a game at all.
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>>738560873
Star Fox would get the Rachet and Clank treatment without Nintendo with the gameplay being thrown out for cinematics.
>F-Zero
When the fuck is Sony giving me a new WipEout game?
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>>738560601
a retard that said >>738558761 "SeGA dID ot wid sOnC m-[faggot noises]"

fucking 2026 and still believing that nonsense, kill yourself
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>>738558761
Sonic Mania pissed Sega off so much they fired the devs and made their own 2.5D classic game.
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>>738561173
Who said they did it with fans? That was a direct reply to someone talking about doing with with an independent developer.

I think you need to take a break.
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>>738561283
>>738559243
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>>738559243
Can you blame them after what the fuck we've been doing to our video games?
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>>738561283
>made their own 2.5D classic game
What game was that? Because Superstars was made by Arzest.
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Everything will be better without Nintendo and the soiboy american army of fans, trannies and roasties aka the core nintendo audience.
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>>738551452
>>738551396
>>738551294
Retro was busy with Donkey Kong. Bandai-Namco was in development hell. So Retro too over trying to put together whatever Bamco was trying to do and make it work. Retro created Prime, so people being stupid about "they dropped the ball" are just ignorant on the matter.

Development process would be that Nintendo pitches an idea, Retro designs it and tests it, and then they send that back to Nintendo. When Nintendo approves then Retro sends design documents to the several outsourced studios tasked with finishing Prime 4. The reason every biome in Prime 4 feels genuinely unique is because a different studio built each different biome, based on rules set forward by the creators of Metroid Prime. Prime 4 is honestly such a good action game and all the nitpicking has nothing to do with the gameplay.
>But Metroid should run around the world alone and shouldn't interact with anyone!!!
According to who? Some of you retards seriously just want the same thing over and over. If you don't like Prime 4 you can still play Prime 1 or Super.
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>i want a better company looking after metroid that isnt ninte-
>SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY

not a cult btw
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>>738561395
Yes, I can blame them for being fucking retards and chasing trends that aren't working for any publisher at all. Are you looking forward to your live-service JSRF and Crazy Taxi?
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>>738561398
Yeah, that
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>>738561284
>lying already
read the "sonic mania" part, you dumb nigger

I think you need to kill yourself
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Being a Nintendo franchise is a double edged sword.
On the one hand it keeps things alive. Most franchises from the 80's that weren't made by Nintendo, or like Square/Enix aren't really still going strong. There's always a refreshed interest in Metroid (along with F-Zero, Starfox, Kid Icarus and so forth) because of Smash Bros.
On the other hand Nintendo are Nintendo, and they have their stupid fixation on "innovating" franchises, instead of just making sequels that fans want. Sometimes this works, and you get Wind Waker or Mario Galaxy. More often than not, you get Metroid Prime Federation Force.
Metroid in particular really seems to suffer from this attitude of trying to cram some kind of gimmick into the formula, because Super Metroid was such a perfected formula in the first place. People really just want bigger, better Super Metroid.
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>>738561452
Nintendo has a cult, PlayStation has a cult, Valve/Steam has a cult, you all have a cult, that's both a good and bad thing. Look at the bright side, at least you ain't Microsoft. Those faggots need to pay people to act like a cult for them, that's embarrassing.
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>>738561492
>>738560530
>"sega hired random fans!!!!!"

Who said fans, anon?
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>Would [INSERT NINTENDO IP HERE] be better if Nintendo would fuck off?
Yes.
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>>738561483
How well was that game received?
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>Primefags beg for a new entry for over 15 years
>they finally get it
>it’s the drizzling shits

Metroidfags deserve nothing. Nintendo should do them a favor and only dredge it up for Smash games like Punch Out and ROB.
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>>738561421
lmao SEETHING
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>>738561663
Dread was great and I absolutely deserved it.
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OP seems upset.
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>>738561473
Jet Set Radio will at least have a single-player mode. Crazy Taxi though, I'll wait on the remake of it over that live-service crap.
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>>738561559
Playstation itself hasn't really had a cult-like mentality since the console wars. It's more like individual IPs published by Sony have cults (TLOU, God of War) that experience infighting but will also take a fat shit on outsiders if necessary.
And even they've shat on Sony for a lot of dumb shit they've pulled over the last decade.
Nintendo is a literal hivemind. It's fucking creepy.
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>>738561663
I told them to let it lie and let Retro make different games. They weren't even the same company after the Prime trilogy, and they were doing a great job on the DK games anyway.
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>>738551294
MP4 literally does all the stuff a 1st party Sony game does with quips and dialogue. Except not as frequent.

It kinda shoes how hypocritical games media is because they only started pointing put how annoying it is when Nintendo did it in one game. Yet Sony does it non-stop from Uncharted, TLOU, Horizon, Ratchet & Clank and GoW.
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>>738561663
Only Metroid that matters is 2D, if they ever want to make another 3D one, how about not making it first-person this time.
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>>738561793
>remake
Are you really that desperate to spend money?
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>>738561808
There 100% are people who are slavishly loyal to Playstation hardware, and don't even know why.
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>>738561669
If you're a nintendo fan (aka a cuck) you're either an american soiboy, a roastie or a tranny, this is a fact.
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>>738552559
I can only pray that the people responsible for the worst parts of MP4 get fucking thrown out.
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>>738561808
>Nintendo is a literal hivemind. It's fucking creepy.
It's a great gate keeping like with Valve/Steam. I wish Snoys were half the cult, maybe PS1, PS2, PSP, and PS Vita Sony wouldn't have died if they had enough back bone to shit on them and chase away normal faggots. Maybe the price hiking will fix Sony and its fanbase.
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>>738561808
Nintendo fans can't stop arguing for five seconds, if you've ever actually spoken to them.
The entire time I've been a Nintendo fan (N64 through current day), Nintendo fans have been pissed off about something. Nothing was EVER as good as the Super Nintendo.
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>>738561663
I feel for the Primeguys but Dread was a great game overall. It had its issues but it was a respectable single-player entry that is easy to replay and that's already more than you can expect from any game ever in this age.
If you knew anything about this series you wouldn't be posting this you little brat.
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>>738561875
Yes
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>>738561825
Seems like they were planning to let Retro make something else until they realized whoever they originally hired to make Prime 4 wasn't going to deliver.
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>>738561663
>she thinks primefags are metroid fans
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>>738551294
>couldnt even sell 1 mil

shitch poo lost and got raped
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>>738562010
Well... hopefully it's a good remake.
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They need to go back to the beginning. There shouldn't be a single word spoken, no characters. Just a vague mission brief, isolated exploration in foreboding locations, with tense or atmospheric music.
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>>738562094
Great way to sell 50K copies
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I hate how a single shit prime game rung the dinnerbell for insufferable contrarians to circlejerk about how games pretty much everybody loves is actually shit (shortly before derailing the thread arguing over the 2D metroids.)
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>>738551294
Metroid without Nintendo got us dead and prime 4
Fuck those piece of shit games
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>>738562189
Right, because the dialogue was a major selling point of Dread and that's what everybody liked about it.
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>>738562204
They do this with LITERALLY EVERY IP IN EXISTENCE whose latest entry isn't good.
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>>738561596
see the "sonic mania" part, you dumb faggot and then kill yourself for being retarded and new
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>>738561492
Anon?
>>738561596
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>>738561452
>OP glazing sony
>"R-RENT FREE TENDIES!!"
retard
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>>738562357
>see the "sonic mania" part
What about it?
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>>738562396
>gives a suggestion and ask for others
>SNOY SNOY SNOY SNOY

shitch poo lost and got raped btw
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>>738561663
Hard to believe Star Fox is now a more valuable IP than Metroid.
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>>738562508
How's Marathon?
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>>738562365
dumb faggot, aka (You)?
>>738561492

>>738562442
that you should read that part, know that your retardation if hiring fans is retarded and kinked with that game
but you are a too new so you should just kill yourself instead
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>>738562524
It arguably always kinda was.
Twenty years of franchise mismanagement aside.
Starfox 1 and 64 were like big games at the time. Metroid has only ever been Nintendo's sleeper hit. The Japanese don't even like Metroid.
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>>738562649
>hiring fans
Who said hire fans?
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>>738562270
nta and I agree with your opinion overall but the fact that Raven Beak hypes himself up so hard as ADAM really adds something nice and funny to that game that wouldn't be there otherwise. If it was like Fusion and you couldn't mash through to skip then it would be dogshit for replayability but thank god that's not the case.
Dread struck the right balance between impactful cutscenes that didn't drag too long and gameplay focus otherwise.
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>>738562508
>snoy melty because people don't like the idea of sony working on a nintendo game
And people say nintendo fans can't handle mild criticism lol
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>>738562697
>Dread struck the right balance between impactful cutscenes that didn't drag too long and gameplay focus otherwise.
100% agree
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>>738562508
You're crying because we don't agree with your suggestion?
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>>738562737
>metroid is doomed
>give ideas
>SNOY SNOY SNOY

kek shitch poo lost and got raped btw
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>>738559425
>wanting ideas to be available to the free market is communism
get a load of this goy.
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>>738562508
Your suggestion sucks, get over it.
>>738562837
Your idea sucks, get over it.
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>>738561556
>On the one hand it keeps things alive.
Sure, if you ignore the mountain of IPs they've killed off.
>along with F-Zero, Starfox, Kid Icarus and so forth
F-Zero hasn't had a new game in 22 years, Star Fox hasn't had a new game in 20 years, Kid Icarus has had one new game in 35 years.
>because of Smash Bros.
Smashfags only play Smash (if even that), not other games. Every time a new Smash comes out and the board is flooded with awful rosterfag spam for the next 5 years, their ignorance of other games is readily apparent.
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>>738562837
lol yeah yeah, go play saaros or else you're going to lose another barrier exclusive, snoy
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Sony can't even handle their own IPs well.
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>>738551294
No. Others would make Samus trsns and give her a black cock and face change into a man and the whole game and message would be of her complaining about others not accepting her as trans.
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>>738562652
>Starfox 1 and 64 were like big games at the time.
StarFox 1 was a big game, yes. 64 was like all the N64's best-sellers, inflated because of how little competition there was on the system. It's telling that it could only match the original SNES game in sales, not surpass it, despite being a bigger fish in a much smaller pond.
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>>738563207
It was an early N64 game, when people were simply excited to play games on the N64. Metroid didn't even get an N64 game.
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>>738562697
There's also the type of voice that's heard. Adam's harsh digital voice in Dread and the more soft female "recorded to logbook" in Prime are kino. The various spoken alien languages are cool too. It all adds to the vibe. Going from that to fucking Myles yapping your head off is unreal.
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Didn't the writing team have some former Playstation writers?
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>>738564149
Worse, Ubisoft.
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I'm not sure what the argument is supposed to be here
all nintendo games have anime tier dialogues and stories that are only acceptable because of the gameplay around them
as "IP" disconnected from nintendo and the weeb cultists metroid is trash
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>>738551294
Dread was kino
More of that but longer and bulkier. Id like a Metroid Dread sequel with a map and exploration design seen in silksongs act 2
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>>738562901
>doesn't understand what free market is
>doesn't want privte property
lmao this commie is a RAPED one AND a kike
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>>738551294
Prime 4 could have been a good game if it didn't have so many former 343 retards work on it.
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>>738561446
I want to cope and say that Retro got handed a half baked yet also somehow burnt and stale cake and was expected to finish it.
But at the same time the NPCs and Miles was entirely on them so...
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>>738562693
read the "sonic mania", then kill yourself for being so new
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>>738561446
>Some of you retards seriously just want the same thing over and over.
That's true of every franchise and they're not wrong. Some people finish a game and think it's not enough, it was too short and they want more of the same. Others think "been there, done that" and want something new every time. Can't please both.
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>>738551681
I don't know if I trust western indie devs enough. I mean, imagine how many of them wouldn't be able to hold back the urge to put 20 million trans flags in the next mario if they had the chance
>>738551873
>ruined castlevania
>the game isn't even out yet
okay nigger
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>>738551294
Metroid would be dead if it wasn't a Nintendo franchise, the things that hurt the series the most is not having a stable home like kirby or xenoblade and habing executives with shitty ideas managing the franchise

paper mario can shrug off a decade of bad games because its freaking mario, but a decade of bad metroid games will put this franchise on ice for 20 years
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this is such a stupid statement
nintendo of japan proper hasn't had much interest in working on metroid
there are the original games, the gba ones, and other M
the prime series and dread were made by westerners, even prime 4 being helmed by vets from many vets from western games from the current landscape of gaming

basically, nintendo DID let westerners take control of metroid because its just a series the japanese side of nintnedo doesn't really understand themselves as its not even a series many japanese players don't care about either
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>>738564886
Why?
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>>738564819
>doesn't understand what free market is
>thinks concepts are privte property
lmao this commie is a RAPED one AND a kike
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>>738565136
because you are retarded, kill yourself
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>>738565510
Who said fans?
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>>738551294
>many Japanese fans have expressed concerns about the future of the series
THESE CUNTS NEVER LIKED METROID IN THE FIRST PLACE WHICH IS WHY IT GOES FUCKING 10 YEARS BETWEEN GAMES
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>>738565602
It probably should have said "the few Japanese Metroid fans purported to exist."
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>>738565556
read the "sonic mania" part and kill yourself for being this new and retarded
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>>738565089
>even prime 4 being helmed by vets from many vets from western games
Who were instructed by Nintendo to make the game open world. Who were instructed by Nintendo to give the Federation shitters such a prominent role. Who for better or worse (it's worse) were not allowed to make the game they wanted to make because they were instructed not to by Nintendo.
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>>738565834
>read the "sonic mania" part
Why?
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>>738551452
Iam pretty sure thats not what happened, everything in prime 4 was because Nintendo scrapped the first version of the game and then got faggots from 343 to work on the game. who then tried to gaslight and quip thier way to a new audience which was thier biggest mistake.
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>>738566162
>343
That's crazy, my first thought upon seeing the trailer was that it looked more like Halo and not the good kind.
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>>738566104
because it shows that you are a retard still believing the retardation about its devs and sega, kill yourself
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>>738559521
eh at least they wouldn't have had a miles or sny of the cringy writing so we
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>>738555308
Only because the 'theming' weirds people out. It succeeds perfectly at making a knockoff Touhou adventure platformer with crazy boss rushes.

>>738556437
In what way would it not count? The updates since release mean it plays like a 'proper' Metroid and doesn't have artificial scaling.
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metroid prime should aesthetically look like alien isolations flashback level and play like as if isaac from deadspace had super strength mixed with vanquish
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>>738563007
>the mountain of IP's they've killed off
As opposed to what? Do you realise how many video game franchises from the 80's are just flat out gone, all but vanished from memory?
When was the last time anyone ever heard about Montezuma's Revenge or Lode Runner? When was the last time anyone heard about Rush n' Attack or TransBot?
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>>738566472
Believing what?
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>>738566162
Except we know that isn't what happened, the problem is that Nintendo insisted that Retro complete Bamco Singapore's design.
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>>738551294
It'd be better without western devs
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>snoy sour grapes
>the thread
>the shitter screen cap
lul
lmao
never ever niggers
-2million karma to ziony
Prime4 was perfectly fine btw.
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>>738567359
Fuck off famitsu schizo.
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>>738551681
>Pokemon since Nintendo owns 1/3rd of it and can strong arm Game Freak.
They couldn't even fucking get Square or Bamco to help make Pokemon because Gamefreak flat out told them to fuck off.
GAMEFREAK ALONE Killed Pokken2 from being made as Nintendo and Bamco both wanted it.
>indies will save gayming
Look Cabdance of Hyrule was neat, but I'd not trust them to handle a full on major release. Smaller titles or spin-offs sure.
Plus Nintendo DID offer the Fast Racing guys F-Zero, they turned it down.
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I genuinely don't think there's much of anyone I would trust with Metroid. I feel like a lot of large Western studios would introduce too much blunt movie-esque character storytelling and then get confused when people hate it.

Team Cherry I think would do a good job.
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>>738567454
>Immediately recognizes a Famitsu resident
Way to out yourself
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>>738567489
I'm out of the loop here, what's Gamefreak's reasoning from blocking Square and Bamco, and preventing a Pokken 2? Just arrogance? Weird when they allowed Pokopia and Pokemon GO
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>>738567621
>NDSfags get routinely raped by reality so hard that they started to recognize which cock is whom's when it's up their boipussy.
Wild to think about.
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>>738567359
I wouldn't say perfectly fine but I enjoyed it a lot, I can see why people didn't like it and I disagree with them, it really helped that it played the smoothest of all Prime games and I wish they would go back and touch up all the older Prime games to play as well as Prime 4.
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>>738554587
lead concept artist

its a shame it is in austin
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>>738567621
It's easy to spot when you type like an absolute schizophrenic
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>>738567112
read the "sonic mania" part, lurk more and then kill yourself
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>>738567681
They hated Harada like the rest of Nintendo
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>>738567863
>read the "sonic mania"
Why?
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>>738554047
>'''westoid'''
there you go being antiwhite again anon
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>>738567930
because you are a retard, kill yourself
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>>738554279
trying way too hard.
cope more.
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>>738567580
>I genuinely don't think there's much of anyone I would trust with Metroid.
For 2D metroid there are many companies that I think could do it justice. Team Cherry is not one of them because Nintendo would demand strict deadlines. For 3D metroid it's weird because there's nothing else like it gameplaywise that I know of. No one is doing FPSs like that so who could they even hire?
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>>738567949
westoids are subhumans that deserve nothing
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>>738555125
deeply concerning.
Nintendo really needs to put a boot up these faggots asses to ensure they focus on making a good fun game and keep out any antiwhiteism.
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>>738568008
Fang stop being a retard not every one is going to like every nintendo game
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>>738553775
The Retro that made the Prime trilogy and the Retro that made Prime 4 are totally different studios.
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>>738551873
Igger ruined it first
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>>738568008
Boring as sin, look at Doom Eternal for some real FPS gameplay.
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>>738568173
>doom maternal
>good
at least larp properly and say quake like all other zoomers
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>>738568262
Doom Eternal had great gameplay though? Sorry you got filtered by the IQ requirement.
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>>738568262
NTA but funny you say Quake since I watched that webm and that enemy reminded me of the fiends, but slower.
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>>738568018
I unironically think Bungie has nonlinear FPS exploration in their capability, Marathon has nice moody maps
Respawn had some Metroidvania experience but I think they're too much of a contractor shell studio
half-tempted to say id because they're the only large studio that experiments with shooter combat and 2016 felt a little prime-y at times

if you gave hakita a team i would also be interested in that even though he's mainly a combat guy, i think some mobility in 3d metroid is a promising idea
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>>738563449
I still wish that the ADAM/Ravenbeak talking sections were just you activating the station and leaving, then the voice-over plays in the background while you explore so that it interrupts gameplay less. But what we got was still a fine compromise.
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>>738557883
>>738558086
In what way is Miyamoto wrong?
Look at near every fucking indie made for ten years. All by avid gamers and its near all spiritual successors to old games, or riding the newest trend.
It's not that gaming is bad, but if its your primary hobby it absolutely does effect the types of games you'll desire to make.
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>>738568392
>Bungie
I hate that I agree with this but I see the logic there, there were plenty of sections in D2 that I enjoyed before I dropped that dogshit due to the crap that surrounded it. If you could distill Bungie to just the decent lore respecting and non-linear FPS members and support them then there is a kino 3D metroid title within their capability, I just doubt it would happen in practice.
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>>738558550
Thing is, Cadance exist because the Necrodancer guys found Miyamoto at a con one time and grew a pair of balls to just go up and pitch their idea.
Nintendo didn't reach out to them.
So how many devs are just gonna go up to Miyamoto, Nagomi, Koizumi, etc and just say 'heyI got this crazy idea how about [game idea]?'
Not sure how the Advance Wars remake happened, did NoA reach out to Wayforward, or the other way around?
Plus Nintendo would want to use such to breach new genres for their IPs too.
So the Into the Breach guys pitching a Fire Emblem game would 100% die, but a splatoon spin-off might pass as example.
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>>738551294
Absolutely not. It would just be another COD-style slopbortion.
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>>738559280
you lost and flopped sealiontranny.
sony is dying in real time.
Suck an egg
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>>738568008
This is fucking nothing man. Tell me what you were actually trying to prove here. Other anon is right that nuDoom looks better, but that is more of a knock to what you posted than praise of nuDoom. Imagine being that much worse.
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>>738564920
>20 million trans flags in the next mari
Nothing wrong with that
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>>738551294
and ruin it like god of war? no thanks
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>>738560358
>Zelda echoes of wisdom
this was by grezzo anon.
A long time Nintendo partner, not exactly the same.
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I'd rather keep retro studios and mercury steam than ch*rry studio or another generic indieslop """"dev"""" or "that man" retards want nintendo to hire
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>>738568932
>or "that man" retards want nintendo to hire
already hired
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>>738560873
F-Zeri just got (( anon.
It exists to rebuild the brand. We'll get a new major release this gen.
F-Zero99 will be the series Fed Force.
A questionable spin-off that will lead to a resurgence.
Screen cap it faggot.
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>>738561556
Fed Force wasn't even that bad.
Tired of you niggers and your histrionics.
Post your fucking copy to show you even played it.
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>>738561808
>snoy lying and coping
sony fans are the exact same niggers faggots everywhere.
be it for tvs, camera, playstation, music players.
You faggots are the exact same dick sucking ass weasels everywhere and people have had proof of this for as long as internet forums existed.
Rot in a ditch.
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>>738569074
the game where the final boss is a brainwashed samus trapped in the form of a giant ball that also serves as a tutorial for the multiplayer sportsball mode that nobody played?

that game isn't that bad?
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>>738563007
>just ignores F-zero99 and kid icarus upraising
faggot troll.
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>>738554587
>Austin

Would not wish that on my worst enemy.
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>>738551294
Metroid would 100% get better games if Team Cherry, Gemayue or the troons behind Rusted Moss worked on it. I say this unironically. Even the best 2d metroid game doesn't hold a candle against Rabi-Ribi or Silksong. Dread and Samus Return especially feel like walk&talk moviegames compared to these titles
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>>738567681
Gamefreak are just salty li'l cucks.
I haven't read the full leaks but from other shit like employee reviews all the upper management of GF KNOWS they suck as a dev team ad that they are dead as fuck without Pokemon.
It's not even arrogance, they know they are ass, but too fucking stupid to genuinely improve.
So keeping Square or bamco out of the main games is just self preservation to them.
As for Pokken2...that I have no idea, especially since Bamco later did Pokemon Snap2.
Gamefreak are just pure ass hats.
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>>738569359
Holy shit this game is worse than I thought lmao
true QUALITY
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>>738569359
Go back to playing air riders fang
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>>738568028
being antiwhite rots the soul.

>>738568080
Don't need everyone to like their games, but deliberate trolling deserves to be shat on.
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>>738561735
It had good parts. But the level design left a lot to be desired and the EMMI parts are just annoying.
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>>738569556
That webm feels like trolling. Don't tell me you paid money for that, man.
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>>738569150
The mode worked on my machine, found plenty of matches.
And yes the game was fine, needed some itteration and improvements, but because you fags cried and whined over a spin-off we'll never get a sequel.

>>738569510
>no argument
very boring.
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>>738569556
Not all of it is trolling alot of people genuinely dislike prime 4
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>>738569685
What, you need a play-by-play for how shitty that webm looks? Sure, even though you'll hand-wave it all like a deluded faggot.
Samus was standing still when the hitscan laser fired and it still missed.
It took 4 seconds for the thing to try turning around after shooting.
It took 7 seconds for it to even try shooting again despite samus sitting still and activating a keypad.
The laser it finally did fire went through samus and didn't damage her at all for no reason at all.
Most egregiously, this construct that exists to guard this room is positioned so that it will be crushed by the elevator if it is ever called down at any time, and does not attempt to move when the elevator is called. So has the elevator never been called before since its creation and assignment to guard the room?

I'm so fucking glad I didn't take a chance on this shit-ass game, anyone that bought it needs their head checked.
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>>738570008
>when the hitscan laser fired
>hit scan
Wrong.
Right of the bat.
Completely dismissed, try again snoy. Play real games for once maybe.

>>738569689
>people genuinely dislike prime 4
Sure I won't deny that. I have my own complaints. It aint the best Prime game, but it's no where near this abhorrent unplayable abomination shit posters try to make it out as.
But when faggots just start bullshitting reasons to be mad I'm really not going to give a damn.
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>>738568262
Doom Eternal is alright atleast the enemies dont fucking telegraph thier attacks for eons and stand around taking thier turns dying against you.

hell the Metroid Prime 1 Space Pirates are more threatening them what Iam lookin at. Not to mention the sick battle theme that started when the engagement starts.

https://youtu.be/RdebQ-y15Dg?si=Ve5saS8eUUr856dF
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>>738551294
All Nintendo needs to make the normies like Metroid is to make a ZSS game, its the truth, this would actually sell 4+ million
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>>738570162
>hand-waved like a deluded schizo
Yeah that's what I thought. Concession accepted, glad you wasted your money.
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>>738569685
>>738568008
>>738567359
Huh, what happened to "nintendo fans arent whiteknighting this game? They totally hate it"?

I guess nintendo fans love snoy movies after all.
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>>738551294
Nintendo has a really bad habit of not making games for some of their ips, but every company has that problem so I don't think it would do particularly better with another dev since the Metroid series doesn't have great sales historically from what I rememebr
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How is Halo not a "snoy" game by that definition? Explain that, Anti-sony fags
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>>738551294
>I honestly think Sony should buy it
Are you that desperate for Samus to become a butch lesbian and all gameplay devolve into movieslop that plays itself?
People only have fond memories of Metroid because Nintendo is at the helm, any other publisher would have raped the franchise into the dirt already.
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metroid has always been dogshit and is not even worth discussion
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>>738570162
>but it's no where near this abhorrent unplayable abomination shit posters try to make it out as
Believe it or not a lot of people think that even I hate a lot of popular games that others think are timeless classics let stop attacking people just because you don't agree with them
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>>738570351
>Are you that desperate for Samus to become a butch lesbian and all gameplay devolve into movieslop that plays itself?
Well, 90% of their modern games are just that. Look at the tranime games like fire emblem or xenoblade, the casual slop like kirby and yoshi, and the absolute toilet that was prime 4.
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>>738570336
the voice chat
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What a stupid fucking thread that I refuse to read.
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With Sony in charge, we would never see another 2d metroid.
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>>738570459
>tranime
Projecting that axe wound a little too hard, Snoyim.
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>state your delusional ''''issue''''
>your issue is factually wrong, and called out
>seethes
Wow gee. Just like the last fucking 8 years of Nintendo discourse.
Do a flip faggot.

>>738570197
No. They don't at all.
Nintendo just needs to make good solid games. The sales will come from that.
Dead Space was raped on the alter of mass appeal.
Monster Hunter was.
Assassin Creed.
Among many more IPs.
I do not want that happening to Metroid or Xenoblade.
The series can keep going while being 2-3mil due to Nintendo actually budgeting well.
Stop wanting shit to be highly popular by brute forcing it, that NEVER ends well.
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>>738570573
>nintendo games arent snoy movies!
>meanwhile, in reality
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>>738551294
Nintendo made the only good game in the genre.
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>>738570573
>Dead Space was raped on the alter of mass appeal.
I miss dead space :(
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>>738570880
Nah the IGAvanias are also good
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>>738570880
Nintendo didnt make hollow knight, silksong, or environmental station alpha.
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>>738570743
Not surprising you hate a natalist game, considering you'll never have a womb, ACtroon
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>>738571271
>jrpg
>game
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Isn't a Sony lead Metroid game just Other M but with a lesbian relationship that's abusive but held up as brave and stunning?
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>>738571339
Aka metroid prime 3.
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>>738571317
>ACtroon
>a woman
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>sealiontranny lies and makes up bullshit to shitpost
>once again
>gets called out on it
>again
>meltdown and sealions twice as hard and dumbs his cope folder
>gets his pet janny to save his pedomanic defending ass
>again
>correcting the lying turd is now '''flame warring'''
What a shitty faggot board holy fuck. You jannies are an embarrassment.

>>738571046
I never really cared for Dead Space, but I also don't want any Ip to be bastardized. No one wins from that result. And I wish cunts on this site were less ecstatic over an IP suffering just because they have no interest in it.
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>>738551294
I mean dread was pretty great so at least they have 2d metroid down.
>>738551452
I dont know why they though Bandai was a good fit for metroid.
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>>738571317
>using pizza tower to shoitpost
>when you never played it
Shameful behavior.
And yes JRPGs are games. You malding won't change it.
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>>738571436
Never claimed to be one. Hope that clears up the confusion.
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Super Mario Galaxy 1 was the last example of real Nintendo magic and since then it's all just been cope. Nothing comes close to Double Dash, Melee, TTYD, you guys all know this. Everyone wants to pretend Nintendo is some kind of chad industry giant that it hasn't been for 2 decades
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>>738571153
We know, that’s why the other anon said Nintendo made the only good game in the genre
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no it's entire claim to fame is being nintendoslop
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>>738571517
Sorry if you disagree, but when you get down to it, jrpgs are the proto movie games. They do everything that movie games do, but slap waifus on the cover. That is the only difference.

Come to think of it, guess what gacha games use to hide their poor casino gambling sim gameplay? It is sadly an effective selling point.
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>>738571502
I don't think Bandai was even a bad choice.
The studio has a lot of great talent and works in a ton of genres, so it could have been something quite unique....though the issue is Bandai chose to take the offering and immediately shit on it by giving it to one of their worst studios for full on projects, when singapore was best as a support studio. Why Bandai did that who the fuck knows. But equally Nintendo clearly sees talent there as they bought out the singapore studio. So we'll see how Nintendo utilizes them, as just a support branch or if they'll try to build it up into its own creaton center.
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>>738571520
No, you just flinch whenever someone called you a tranny, and it bothers you so much that you call everyone else one.
Or maybe you're "FtM"
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>>738571567
But those games easily trump metroid in quality.
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>>738571473
>I also don't want any Ip to be bastardized. No one wins from that result
that's why I wanted castlevania to stay dead because I knew they would ruin everything about it
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>>738551294
>Sony should but it
Yes, I too would love to see Metroid get the same treatment as Uncharted, original God of War, Ratchet and Clank, Jax and Daxter, Crash, Spyro.
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>>738571543
Galaxy 2 and oddyssey mog galaxy 1
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>>738571630
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>738567359
Dude, I defend nearly every Nintendo game including the new Star Fox game. Stop trying to defend this turd. We didn't need a Prime 4, we told Primefags for years we didn't need a Prime 4, 2D Metroid is back and incredible, people want a proper 3D Metroid we never really got. Hell, Kirby got a proper 3D game, it's time for Metroid to get one that isn't Metroid Other M 2.
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>>738567983
Why?
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>>738570336
Halo might actually be worse than Snoy games, honestly.
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>>738571648
Bleak outlook but probably not inaccurate given the netflix show and the new game.
I think the dev team behind Infernax could do a really solid Castlevania though. Even if it'd be closer to the original releases than SotN and beyond.
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>>738551294
Metroid is in a bad place, because it doesn't know what it is.

Originally, it was just Space Adventure Cobra mixed with Alien.

Then, Prime came along and did something different.

Now, it's a classic franchise trying to be modern while keeping its identity. So, it doesn't fit. It's like trying to be modern Simpsons. It belongs in a time and place, and that time is over.
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>>738571713
I will do as I please. Thank you very much.
I enjoyed my two play throughs of Prime4, despite its flaws. The game as a solid foundation to build upon. I'm not just going to dumpster on a game simply because that's the popular thing to do.
>we don't need Prime4, or 5
>yet the next 3d metroid shouldn't be Other M 2
Okay. So in your opinion what SHOULD 3d Metroid be? Genuinely asking what you envision for the IP.
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>>738571787
>Bleak outlook but probably not inaccurate given the netflix show and the new game
I'm also like that with soulcalibur, banjo-kazooie, and many other games I'm just tired of seeing my favorite series get raped and I don't trust these new devs at all
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>>738571903
>wacky quipping npcs and empty deserts, and forced linearity and unnecessary backtracking are good for metroid
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>>738571903
One that plays like a fucking 2D Metroid game in 3D, what the hell kind of question is that. I want Samus's power-ups to work like they do in the 2D games, I want to fight 3D versions of the 2D Space Pirates over the generic Halo ripoffs in the Prime games. I want to fight the real Metroids in 3D that require an Ice Beam to even kill. A full non-linear 3D Metroid game on a world similar to Zebes. I was never a fan of how Metroid went 3D.
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>>738571920
Would modern bamco do soulcalibur that badly? really?
Banjo I get fully, rare is a complete husk and the only devs to lease it to are....gears for breakfast/hat in time devs? and.....maaaaybe bubzy 4 devs if it turns out alright?
There's also nintendo but they'd demand it be exclusive and obviously no. plus takes time off mario/dk/etc

738571949
>sealions and strawmans instantly
>doesn't even attempt to answer the posed question
Wow geeee. Imagine my shock.
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>>738572095
You said prime 4 was a good foundation for future games. I pointed out everything wrong with your assertation. Quit flamewarring for once.
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Metroid would be better without Nintendo
Pokemon would be better without Gamefreak
Halo would be better without Microsoft
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>>738572031
Okay, so what exactly is wrong with the general idea of other M?
Fast paced combat, plenty of abilities, even speed booster, shine spark, and screw attack. Samus feels strong as Hell near the end.
Just trim the fat on the cutscenes and such. Don't go full retard by denying your full control scheme and fuck up missile usage, or forgetting Gravity Suit is purple.
Would be fine, yes? Or do you imagine a different bias of gameplay?
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>>738571787
>I think the dev team behind Infernax could do a really solid Castlevania though
I'd rather let inti creates do it since the curse of the moon games are really good

>>738572095
>Would modern bamco do soulcalibur that badly? really?
do you really need to question it?

>Banjo I get fully, rare is a complete husk and the only devs to lease it to are....gears for breakfast/hat in time devs?
despite everyone hating yooka-layle I though it was alright with the exception of the character designs
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only flame warrer is you sealiontranny. And you damn well know that.
>no see my strawmanning and faggotry is a real argument
It isn't.
The combat is great in prime4. Scanning is good. Environment has good design/aesthetic to them. etc. Just needs expanding and more interconnections.
Now post your ac6, silksong, and pizza tower playtimes.
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>>738572223
It played like a crappy Ninja Gaiden game, not like a Metroid game, the controls also sucked. I want a proper 3D Metroid game.
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>>738551294
>Metroid Prime was allegedly a system seller
>3 games and nobody EVER talk about them
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>>738551294
Everything wrong with Prime 4 would've been magnified if it wasn't a Nintendo property.
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>>738572220
>Metroid would be better without Nintendo
No
>Pokemon would be better without Gamefreak
Maybe
>Halo would be better without Microsoft
Yes
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>>738561446
I, too, like to go on the Internet and make shit the fuck up.
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>>738551294
>I honestly think Sony should buy it, they would do an amazing job with it
Sony is already making their own "metroid" and it's one of the gayest and boring shit I've ever seen
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>>738572315
>these things are good because.... they just are!
>no i wont elaborate
Compelling.
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>>738551294
We already know the answer to that, because nothing after Zero Mission was made by Nintendo. The verdict is: "In the shitter."
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>>738572347
>I want a proper 3D Metroid game.
Okay.
Please define this.
What is a 'proper' 3d metroid? Dig into the details, the mechanics. Not just vague ideas. I'd actually like a discussion on this God forsaken board for once.

>>738572309
Inti isn't the worst choice actually. Master Master is good as was Gal Guardians.
As for Soulcalibur, yes I do need to ask. I'm not knowledgeable on Tekken to understand why 8 is pissing everyone off.
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>>738572497
The main issue here is Nintendo lacks an internal Metroid team. Few of the older heads had a desire to fully tackle it and the upcoming young ones wanted to do their own ideas (like nagomi and splatoon or the ARMS director).
All these new hires should give Nintendo the staff to sort out an internal team for a lot of those untouched IPs.
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>>738572612
Unironically fromsoftware should make a 3d metroid, but dont make it like dark souls. Make it like armored core. It is a far better series that fits the sci fi nature better. The combat in ac6 is much more rewarding than prime 4, since prime 4 has abysmal enemy variety and the enemies are all braindead. Fromsoft meanwhile had to release multiple patches because too many people were being filtered ny balteus.
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>>738572612
>Please define this.
I already defined it. What is 2D Metroid, how do you make that 3D?
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Metroid should be third person action/shooter game. Like Vanquish. She should be running around dodging shit with her super speed and shooting everyone at the same time. The Prime series limits her too much and feels played out at this point with no new ideas.
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>>738551294
Prime 4 was never going to be good with that clusterfuck of a development cycle and the fact it took half an ice age to go from announcement to the first tidbit of gameplay to final release.
Dread had a much leaner and less disastrous development it did fine, clearly the lesson is that 9 times out of 10 a game with a nuclear disaster level of development fuckups is going to be a, at best, mediocre game.
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>>738572721
I'll give you low enemy variety, but they are plenty threatening, especially on hard.
As for fromsoft making it...possibly good idea. They do well at loose horror/unsettling aesthetics to keep the player on edge. So that'd do quite nicely with Metroid being isolation based and with spoopy sections here or there. Can't really remark on ac6 type gameplay as I not played it, but zipping around quickly and launching missiles/beam barrages is pretty close to 2d. Certainly a good idea.
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>>738572858
>they are plenty threatening
Lol every webm you showed had enemies literally standing still for 99% of the time.
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>>738572848
Who the fuck even owns Vanquish? You'd think they'd hire Plat for a sequel after the grand hit that Automata was just to farm easy attention.
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>>738572612
>Inti isn't the worst choice actually. Master Master is good as was Gal Guardians
bro have you not played the curse of the moon games?

>I'm not knowledgeable on Tekken to understand why 8 is pissing everyone off
I'll be honest it's been a while since so I mostly forgot but I remember them changing the gameplay to the point where it was basically a different game in term of balancing but my other and main concern is them censoring it
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>>738573025
I played the very first one but it was years ago, don't recall it well.
As for tekken understandable.
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I dont recall any good combat in prime 4. Even the fimal boss was one big stinker, like they ran out of time and just shoved in whatever.
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>sealiontranny posting his cope folder
>again
sad li'l fag
You never even played Prime4. Or any game.
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>>738572095
>and.....maaaaybe bubzy 4 devs if it turns out alright?
I love Demon Turf and Demon Tides but they're a different kind of 3D platformer than Banjo. They're not collectathons and trying to find cake pieces and keys was the most boring part of the first game. I don't think Banjo fans would like a game made by that studio. They could do a great 3D Sonic though.
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>>738573141
Did you post the wrong webm? That looks even worse than what i posted.
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>>738572995
>Who the fuck even owns Vanquish?
me and I remember it being very fun
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>>738573108
Prime 4 bosses were mostly better than the past prime games though. I love prime 1 and 2 a lot in particular, but I've always found their bosses kinds ass. Not every boss works in prime 4, but there's definitely good ones in there like Xelios and every fight against sylux besides babysitting one
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>>738573306
The problem is that none of them are challenging to fight. Even the sylux fights are as barebones as something youd fight in mario 64. It just compounds with all the rest of the games issues.
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>>738573306
Also just want to add: the Xelios boss them is such a fucking banger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jExisFUOvzQ
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I don't think a world exists where Metroid is ever anything but niche. Like mecha.
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>>738573107
>I played the very first one but it was years ago, don't recall it well.
replay it again
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>>738571768
because you are a retard
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>>738573305
funny joke, you know what I meant.

>>738573206
I see. Collect-a-thons are pretty rare these days ir seems so couldn't recall many games doing that in the last few years.

738573220
whatever makes your bald head shine lad.
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>>738573393
None of the past prime bosses are hard either dude. In fact, they're even worse because they're usually twice as long so they end up feeling way more fucking tedious. If you want the bosses to pose a threat you play hard mode
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>>738556437
it is, by all definitions, a metroidvania.
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>>738572612
Tekken is a non-factor since the man behind the series, Harada, left the company. But Harada has said before that Soul Calibur is a series that sells well, the problem is that everyone involved either left the company or got promoted to a position where they can't make a new game. So there's no one at Bamco both interested and capable of making a new game.

>>738573025
Tekken 8 made every character's gameplan more similar, reduced execution requirements, made combos too long and nerfed movement heavily while making moves go farther and track better. The result is every character wanting to get point blank to do their mixup over and over, when the series was famous for being more about moving all over the stage fishing for your hits. Moving backwards and trying to dodge sideways are both heavily nerfed now.
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>>738573490
Thanks for the clarification anon
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>>738573490
>Moving backwards and trying to dodge sideways are both heavily nerfed now.
Alright...what was their logic here? Too complicated for casuals?

>>738573481
Why feed the troll man? That's such low effort bait.
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>>738573476
Prime 4 takes place 20 years after the previous games. It shouldnt be making the same mistakes as older games. Hard mode does not remedy it. Look at this >>738573438

Slow ass moving enemy, barely attacks, painfully simple in all metrics. Its why i recommended fromsoft as a dev for future metroid titles. Ibis and cel spider and balteus run rings around these bosses.
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>>738573581
Games were better 20 years ago. Not a real fucking argument
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>>738572721
>Fromsoft meanwhile had to release multiple patches because too many people were being filtered ny balteus.
I liked the bosses but normal enemies are nothing special in that game. To me that was a game where you could beat many stages by rushing past normal enemies, maybe firing homing missiles at them without even paying attention, to then fight the bosses. I wouldn't want a Metroid game like that. I wouldn't want that auto aim system to come back either, they should go back to the combat from the previous games.
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>>738573610
Thats just a defeatist argument.
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>>738573647
Some enemies were easier to deal with, but dont forget that there was great variety, even excluding fellow AC pilots, the game always kept surprising you with new enemies.

Defending the strider still leaves me awake at night.
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>>738573564
>Alright...what was their logic here? Too complicated for casuals?
Tekken 7 at the pro level at the end of it's life was being dominated by Pakistani players. Arslan Ash played extremely passive running away all the time and devs wanted to nerf that. Nevermind that part of the reason he played like that was that aggression was so strong it was scary to fight up close. There's also this weird logic that also motivated drive rush in SF6 and all the anti-fireball tools from SF5 where devs think zoning and runaway scare away casuals who just want to rushdown and be aggressive all the time.
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>>738573581
Why?
Assuming you are a prior anon, you stated you loathed IPs being mangled and raped.
Prime games by default are slower more methodical games. There is quite literally no issue or flaw in that.
Not so say Nintendo couldn't make a NEW side series in Metroid that is 3d, fast paced, and high energy. BUT. If so it should be a completely new series, not just warping Prime into something it isn't.
This obsession to homogenize everything is beyond tiresome. Not everything needs to be frantic and fast paced.
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>>738573774
>Prime games by default are slower more methodical games.
This combined with the fact it's a series inspired by Alien, makes me think a horror dev would do a good job. Give metroid to Capcom, get the RE devs on it.
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>>738572721
>>738572858
Hard disagree. Metroid prime could absolutely benefit from being harder, but I do NOT want them to be spastic missiles spam games. Prime games are slow and methodical where the biggest highlight is exploring and observing your surroundings. Harder doesn't have to mean faster combat
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>>738573873
>>738573774
You dont have to turn the games into missile spam dbz fights. But the game should always leave you on edge. It is an isolationist experience and you should fesr death at every turn.

I am going to say something extemely controversial, but this is why i like the romhack Metroid x fusion. For all of its stupid problems, it actually makes you teŕrified to explore because you could run into any number of sa-x clones who can kill you in seconds. This is what the original.metroid fusion shouldve been, and that mindset of narrowing dodging death should be the foundation for prime.
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>>738573873
Harder doesn't necessarily mean harder no. Can just be enemies being more aggressive and making players watch their distance/peripheral vision more. DS1 and DeS aren't fast combat but are fairly tough by demanding the player not just rush around or else they'll die to a drawn mob or traps.

>>738573868
Capcom is an interesting call yes, but not a bad one.
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>>738574049
>>738574206
I don't disagree with either of you. The suggestion was to make the combat more like armored core and that's specifically what I was calling a bad idea
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>>738573873
i strongly believe prime would benefit from having higher mobility potential
look at titanfall 2, you can play it at a slow shooter pace or engage with mobility mechanics and move very fast. something like dread isn't that different either, you either platform around at a "normal" pace or try to tear it as fast as possible with speed booster and junk
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>>738574323
Dread is 2d metroid and that series has been fast paced since super. It's a different series and I'd prefer it to stay that way. Prime having fast combat would clash with the core design of the games
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>>738574265
I was more referring to how aggressive enemies can be. To this day ibis remains one of my favorite fights since i spent hours trying to beat him before the patch.
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>>738574323
BZZZZZZZZTTTTTTT FUCKING WRONG FAGGOT
Because Fed Force should be kept alive to be Nintendo's answer to Titan Fall. So you are actually half correct, just the wrong side series.
Look in your heart, you know this is factually accurate.
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>>738574397
i didn't say fast combat per se just fast mobility as an option
a lot of games where you can go quite quickly do not obligate you to move quickly. super as well is quite sluggish and floaty unless you know what you're doing
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>>738567128
Ah yes, the non existent dev team's design.
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>>738551396
Notice how bing tendies instantly think of Snoy cause it lives rent free in their heads instead of the obvious implication there being indie like the REST OF THE FUCKING GENRE.
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>>738572421
>>738570336
>>738571786
>>738566286
>>738566162
>>738560315
>343 seethe
Lol
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>>738574783
>nintendo bought a dev studio that doesn't exist
Weird thing to say anon.
It's well known now which part of bamco did the first go of prime4.
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>>738574820
>the obvious implication there being indie like the REST OF THE FUCKING GENRE.
Literally none of then know how to make 3d metroidvanias though
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>>738575018
They know their way around most genres. Why not give it a shot?
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>>738551294
Just make Samus a goddamn bounty hunter you fucks. Stop making her a merc that exclusively works for the shitass Galactic Federation. Gimme a big overarching bounty I'm aiming to tracks down and collect with a few smaller bounties to pick up along the way.
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>>738574820
>Quite literally choosing to ignore the fact that OP brought up sony
>just to be a fag and seethe
Incredibly fucking tiresome.

>>738575103
I'm not going to shit on Team Cherry because I did quite enjoy HK/SS but I don't think they'd mess well with AA time lines/deadlines. They enjoy taking their time and going slow. Which has worked out pretty well, but they'd be a pretty poor fit.
I really doubt Metroid fans would like a Metroid game in the simplistic art style of Ribi-Rabi.
Cup head devs could probably do decent...but again they work really slow, but the art style certainly makes up for it.
Your best Indies for Metroid would be Wayforward or Inti Creates. Both have solid art styles and can hit more constrained deadlines. But after Advanced Wars rebootcamp that's a can of worms no one would want to touch let's be honest. Least not till their next Shantae game to see if they still have talent.
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>>738551294
I think it's obvious Nintendo hasn't really known what to do with Metroid after Super. Part of the problem is also Samus herself, but that's minor.
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>>738574826
Prime 4 was shit but it reminded me of how much worse Halo is, the boss fights in Prime 4 returned me to what video games truly were about. Even Doom the Fart Ages is better than Halo. After seeing Campaign Evolved, I toned out so hard that I don't think I can ever go back to Halo.
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>>738576552
*tooned out
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>>738551396
This literally already exists too.
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>>738551294
Another day, another snoy who hates Nintendo while salivating at the mouth at the chance of playing Nintendo games.
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>>738576585
*trooned out
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>>738576595
I still have no fucking clue wtfh this is.
I'm also the only fag to remember The Order 1886 I'm pretty sure
Only because gaymexplain shilled it so hard and inorganically once it released despite ever discussing it once before hand. while shitting on bayo2. the faggots
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>>738576552
>>738576585
absolute inbreds.
TUNED out
TUNED
As in a musine tune.
Turning it off.
Not listening.
TUNED out.
Stupid esls.
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>>738554047
you didnt care until someome told you that anita was in the credits, proving that you are more interested in pushing a right wing agenda than you are with good games
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>>738576717
I'm tired, give me a break, this is still better than Halo despite being the worst Prime game.
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>>738576761
Not him, but fuck you.
Antiwhiteism needs to be completely purged out of this industry. It IS decaying and rotting all these once great devs to the core. Stop being a cuck and taking the denigration of your people in stride. It's pathetic.
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I don't know what the fuck is going on itt
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>>738576680
>I'm also the only fag to remember The Order 1886 I'm pretty sure
I remember how shilled it was too.
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>>738564861
No, the NPC and miles were a thing by Namco, including the Bike and overworld.

>>738572424
It's not made up, they've explained this countless times already. Look up the credits to Prime 4.

https://www.mobygames.com/game/245261/metroid-prime-4-beyond/credits/switch-2/

Scroll down past the Retro Studios credits and you'll see every studio that helped finish Prime 4.
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>>738577076
A certain notorious faggot of this board made it to seethe about Nintendo.
A(rmored)C(ore)Fag)got)/Sealiontranny.
He's been impotently seething at Nintendo for 17 years and shitting up every Zelda, Metroid, and Xenoblade thread.
You either ignore him, or intensely mock him.
You'll notice him by his terribly feigned ignorance, constant deflections and what-abboutisms, plus trying to weaponize TF2, Hollow Knight/SS, or pizza tower to shit on Nintendo.
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>>738551913
>>738567489
I’ve been thinking it for a while, but
>Gamefreak directly is why there’s no Pokken 2
has me convinced Nintendo needs to just send in a team of Nintendo Ninja Niggas and unperson anyone within Gamefreak’s office over the age of, like, 45. There’s legit no saving these fuckers, and the franchise is forever fucked until Ohmori and Masuda’s heads are on pikes. The scourge of Gen X and the Boomers is a global phenomenon that will be written about in history books. I know the idea of Japanese business suits having sticks up their asses is a stereotype, but to this level is absurd.
i’d make an exception for Morimoto and Unno, though. they’re alright.
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>>738577508
Gamefreak will forever be the cause of its own undoing.
They hate that they are eternally bound to Pokemon, yet have too much '''pride''' to let anyone else touch it, yet too stubborn to properly train up and teach employees.
It's such a fucked situation. Iwata really needed to fucking bitch slap them all when he had the chance, as he was likely the only person capable off given how much work he did with them.
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>>738551294
It'd actually be worse. Nintendo is one of the lesser offenders when it comes to filling key positions with women and fags, which is what killed the hype for this long before the game came out.

I can personally say that I love the trilogy but they had an uphill battle in convincing me that this was going to be worth playing, and they failed.
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>>738551396
FPBP
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>>738569475
can't wait to play the next metroid game in 2040!
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In other topics.
We know Metroid6 is in development.
Guesses to what it will be?
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>>738551294
Correct me if I'm wrong. But wasn't Metroid Prime 4 developed by a western studio, just like the previous Prime games?
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>>738578829
Half right.
Started out in Bamco Singapore.
They fucked up.
Retro (texas usa)offered to take over and fix it, to debatable effect.



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