Why can't Sega remake Sonic Adventure 1 or 2?
It wouldn't work. SA1 and 2 are products of their time that can't be replicated today. The current voice actors aren't as good, Ian Flynn would ruin the dialogue, and the character designs from Shadow 2005 onward aren't as appealing.
Why would you want a remake? tell me, op
>>738563195i like these games but i never really liked how momentum works in them. you try spindashing down a cliff and you don't gain any momentum at all. it also kind of sucks sometimes trying to control a character when they reach their max speed
>>738563497ok I know that old good new bad, but Sonic Adventure was so fucked in the porting process
>>738563379>current voice actors aren't as goodHave you rewatched any of the cutscenes from those games recently?
>>738563195You're wishing for demakes? Are you nuts?
>>738563852Yes, they were all great. The voice actress for amy in the adventure games would be preferred over not cindy robinson. I replayed adventure 2 last week btw
>>738563195>Rouge with no sex appealDon't make this happen
>>738563852>>738563993>playing japanese games with english dub
>>738564243Sonic is honorary British.
SA1 was shit but Sega needs to remake 2 since they can't do any better
>girlboss amyDon't make this happen
>>738563195>no underboobinaccurate
>>738563195I don’t need that. Just let people play these games on modern hardware. Either put them on PSN and eShop or NSO. Dreamcast NSO or GameCube NSO.
>>738563852listen the eggman guy they've had ever since is great and everyone recognizes him, but SA1/2 eggman is too unique
>>738563497so we can have ten billion outrage threads once they inevitably nerf rouge's ass and titties
>>738564243まさにその通りだ、同志オタクよ!
>>738564453they will also completely remove jiggle psychics
>>738564123Too late!
>>738563379Anything but the gameplay
>>738563195I remember a few years back there were rumors that SA1/2 were getting remakes largely developed by Sega of China (who had previously handled the modern ports of Sega's other Dreamcast titles), but they were apparently doing such a shit job that the whole project ended up getting scrapped.In retrospect, it's weird that Frontiers' cyberspace stages were made up of reused Green Hill, Chemical Plant, and Sky Sanctuary assets from Generations, and then a fourth environment type made of unique urban highway assets with cars, GUN helicopters, and tanks. I can only imagine that last environment was probably using leftovers from the scrapped SA2 remake, because I can't really see Sonic Team bothering to make brand new assets for only a handful of layouts when they were clearly fine with reusing shit for the other 75% of cyberspace.
>>738563195They just don't want to
>>738566380wasnt sonic heroes also happening?
>>738563195Why the fuck would you want worse versions of Adventure 1 and 2?
>>738563195Iizuka said he's not interested in remakes because the amount of work that'd go into a fully-realized remake of a game from 1998 would be the same as making a brand new game, and at that point they'd rather just make something completely new instead.Of course, Iizuka has said many things over the past two decades that were either wrong, or contradicted a few years later anyway, so they'll probably be made eventually.
>>738564481>hating on kino sonic engrish
>>738563195>Remake SA1 and 2>both come in 1 game>all characters removed>you only play as Sonic with Boost gameplay>Shadow is playable in bonus stages/final story secondary campaign of SA2
>>738566569The last thing I remember being said about the Heroes remake (i.e., by the guy who was leaking all that other Sega shit at the time - I forget his name) was that it was either being considered, or in an early planning stage. One of the two. Not really something Sega had fully committed to.
Manifest a decomp and eventual pc port of both games
>>738563195Because Egoraptor, Projared, and western game journos would make fun of them again, and Sega is pants-shittingly afraid of that for some fucking reason.
>>738567680There's already pc ports and large modding scenes for both.The pc port of SA1 with the modpack that fixes up some bugs and makes it look like the Dreamcast version is the best way to play the game, imo.
>>738567005>no chao garden
I always had a wishful dream that they'd fix Sonic 06 and pit it out renamed 'Sonic Adventure 3'. But that would never happen...
>>738567817Either no Chao Garden, or a really shitty one where you only have 1 Chao to take care of. There's no Garden area and it plays closer to a tamagotchi.
>>738564243>heyyy guuuuuuyswhy is jp sonic so zesty?
>>738563195Asking for a remake.You fucker. How many Starfox threads are need to open your eyes???Those fucker surly ruin it and desecrate our childhood memories.
>>738564243Sex goddess
>>738564332Why she looks like sonic but recoloured and with a skirt?
>>738564421Deem Bristow and Long John Baldry have a similar enough register to eachother's portrayal and are the GOAT English Robotniks as far as I'm concerned
>>738564367This kill the SEGA
>>738567005
>>738567817>Chao garden are paid DLC >Or >Preorder bonus
>>738564123Should be space chanel 5
>>738567005You say that as if it's supposed to turn me off.
>>738571292desperately need to bounce Surge up and down my bwc
>>738564481>Ohaiou gozaimasu Ken sama
>>738571372Everyday I pray for that......Get in the line
>>738563649You can't mock nostalgia or "old good" while asking for old things, nigger. If new things were good, you wouldn't be asking for old things over and over
For all the talks of remakes I would love if a developer actually made a remake of a game but included cut/planned content that didn't make it to the final product because of deadlines.I am 110% certain that there were a lot of ambitious ideas that Sonic Team had to cut from SA1 because it needed to be a launch title. I would love to see the same core game and, rather than changing or removing shit, just keeping all the stuff that's already there in the game but then adding new stuff.
>>738563195SA3 or CD2 would be nice if the Devs and directors are competent enough.
>>738567770Lame.Nowday's noone wants to take a risk except if you try to make a concord and dustborn like garbage
>>738564502The jiggle and bouncing physic was the bread and butter of the game
>>738564481>同志オタク(草)
>>738564481>あなたは決して女性にはなれない。
>>738563195They unironically don't want to. In interviews they've been very clear about them being aware people really REALLY want Adventure remakes, they just have literally no interest in making themWhy? Fuck if I know
You think you want adventure remakes but you REALLY don't. Trust me
>>738573059How much butchered remakes need to open the blind masses eyes?Starfox fans are eating shit right now.
>>738565334Still would.
>>738563195The Adventure games are awful.
SA1 is actually a combination of two different projects that were in development. A lot of the platforming concepts came from the more traditional 3D Sonic project (Sonic Jam has a lot of unused character animations from this project, which would later be refined and used again in SA1), while the adventure fields and narrative focus came from the rpg project (Jam's hub world was originally built as a prototype area for this project before being repurposed for Jam).>Takashi Iizuka felt that Sonic fans had been let down because Sonic Team was not focusing on Sonic enough>Sonic Adventure begins development in 1996>Sonic Adventure as a 3D game adaptation of Sonic begins development as a showcase for Dreamcast hardware. Transparencies, volumetric per-pixel shadows and volumetric fog features, ninja lighting, FMVs, voice acting, etc>Dreamcast goes all out on transparency and lighting, supports 8-bit destination alpha blending with 24-bit sourcing 32-bit z-buffer. SA1-2 used diffuse+specular lightning based on palette indices like some Saturn games>Iizuka was able to request more RAM for the console specifically for Sonic Adventure. 24mb of RAM - 16mb working RAM and 8MB for textures. Saturn only has 4MB>Yuji Uekawa redesigned each character for Dreamcast >Seiyuu chosen by Iizuka. Jun'ichi Kanemaru as Sonic, Chikao Ōtsuka as Dr Eggman, Nobutoshi Canna as Knuckles, Taeko Kawata as Amy>Early in its development, the team had conducted research abroad to get ideas. The chosen region was South America>Tulum resort town on Mexico’s Caribbean coast, Machu Picchu, Tikal Mayan citadel in the rainforests of northern Guatemala, Cancún in Mexico were heavy and obvious inspirations for Mystic Ruins >Chaos according to Iizuka the director was made to shock, surprise people, something you would say "this is only posible on the Dreamcast">The hub worlds' emphasis on exploring to find new areas and power-ups was inspired by The Legend of Zelda
>>738563195The CRT/VHS quality is necessary
>>738575982>Iizuka loves Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy>Iizuka had a dream of becoming a manga artist, which ultimately led him to Sega after realizing manga wasn’t a viable career>In 1996 when the Burning Rangers development concluded, that whole staff went straight over to Sonic Adventure>Sonic Adventure was inspired by Sonic Team's Adventure in South America>Chichen Itza and Tikal provided the aesthetics concept of the shrine of Knuckles's race, Chaos and the serpents drawing on the walls of the temple; Cancun and Tulum provided the concept of Emerald Coast; Cuzco provided the Altar of Emerald; Machu Picchu provided the design of Windy Valley; and Ica provided the the aesthetics for Sand Hill>Lost World and Windy Valley were rebuilt dozens of times>Sachiko Kawamura designed the Chao Garden and an upgraded version of the A-LIFE system from NiGHTS where you evolve Chao>There are some people on the Sonic Adventure team whose entire job was working on the Chao>Sonic Adventure's entire team was composed of Sega's top-class employees, and it wasn't uncommon for them to be working on other projects at the same time as Sonic Adventure. Their competence meant that, as the development went on, they'd often undertake individual sections on their own; as a consequence of that, no one person could really see the whole picture of the development, and when the game was finally finished and they played it, it was like, "Ohhh… so that's what's going on here.">Lost World became the standard of quality for the other stages. Many stages were remade and redesigned dozens of time before Iizuka and Naka were happy with them.>Fumie Kumatani, Jen Senoue, and Kenichi Tokoi were Sonic Adventure's Sound Team>Senoue' main theme "Open Your Heart" was re-wrote nine times>With SA1 they had pushed the Dreamcast close to its limit, so they knew it would be difficult, from a hardware perspective, to surpass that for SA2
>>738563195Why bother? Even at the time the game was somewhat divisive, and very few people today care or would care about the non-Sonic levels in either game or Adventure 1's hub. You really think people would be impressed by the orca in Emerald Coast or Green Forest's automated wood hallways because of an increased polygon count. It wouldn't be 1999 or 2001 again. You mean you just miss the late 90s/early 00s. That's fine. A lot of people do. But you're better off watching the "Steal My Sunshine" music video than hoping Sega manages to reproduce and preserve whatever qualities you like about the Adventure games.
>1girl, rouge the bat, on back, 1boy, povI love being a gamer.
>>738576551Gamers rise up
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>>738575982>>738576016based trivia anon
>>738563928I see Sonic has learned how to summon his, I guess the Eggman ring experiments weren't for nothing after all.
>>738578328summon his Persona*, fuck.
>>738577486This was the most soulful thing in any Sonic game and they haven't done anything like it since
>>738563637>you try spindashing down a cliff and you don't gain any momentum at all.This is false.
>>738563195The talent that existed then no longer exists. Simple as.
>>738563195They're both already ported to PC, so there is simply no need.
>>738563195I always wanted a Rouge game that played like Sly Cooper but with more verticality because of her flying and wall climbing, and with a ton of dress up options.
>>738566380Some Adventure 2 stage layouts were in as well
>>738563195They’d remove Rouge’s tits and void out Amy’s skirt, so no.
>>738583502And don't forget to include the jiggle and bouncing physic.Oh, and a bunch of latex suit too.
>>738564315Kill yourself frog faggot.
>>738563195Remakes are fucking gay.
>>738586979Agree
YEAH ROUGE, SHE'S SEXY AND SMOOTH
>>738587087I want to lick every drop of sweat off Rouge body
>>738563379>The current voice actors aren't as good, Ian Flynn would ruin the dialogue,Agreed. All these years later, it always sounds wrong listening to the Sonic characters speak. They nailed it with the adventure cast and every other VA they've hired since then just doesn't sound good. That said, I would easily put up with it were they to remake the Adventures.
>>738563195It's the craziest thing in the world to me that Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were both produced in their entirety before 9/11. Both games have post 9/11 vibes all over
>>738588543Because of the massive amount of urban destruction?
>>738588543>>738588915Iizuka was a machine back in the day>1994 Sonic 3 & Knuckles>1996 NiGHTS>1998 Sonic Adventure>2001 Sonic Adventure 2>2003 Sonic Heroes>2005 Shadow the HedgehogHe burned himself out with Sonic Heroes and hasn't been the same since
>>738588915A lot of stuff. Eggman is literally a terrorist in 2
