I genuinely have no idea how anyone finds this piece of shit fun.
>filtered
>>738569421Being filtered by insanely shit game design is justified.
>>738569328I played it in 1998/99 when I was a massive FF fanboy and found it boring as fuck
>>738569761we understand you're a nigger, yes.
>>738569328This game was ahead of its time when it came out. The only flaw was that it was too easy.
>>738569328It was the first niggas on a chessboard game I ever played. The music is incredibly good. Good sound design. The class system is cool. Some of the demonic boss fights spooked me as a kid. It felt like a much more mature game than the other FF games at the time, even with the botched translation.
>>738569860That's because it is boring and glacially slow. While also being pure dogshit from a design standpoint. Unsurprisingly it had the same director as Vagrant Story, another game with abhorrent and utterly nonsensical mechanics.
Why is Delita considered a hero but Dycedarg a villain when they both did the same thing?
>>738570140Because Delita won
>>738569328People tolerate the shit srpg gameplay because they like the job system autism.
>>738570042TO came before it(and most of the team that made that game, made FFT), so it was hardly ahead of its time though, even if it was somewhat superior a production.Even then, TO was also just another iteration of things already being done with the genre. FFT was just exactly in its own time, or even a little behind depending on what you think about its implimentation of things.
>>738570042>ahead of its timehow??
>>738570042>ahead of its timeFire Emblem came out in 1990, this shit is behind on it's time
>>738569328Challenges are fun, zoomy. What was that? You wanna go back to your powerwash simulator? WHAT KIND OF FAGGOT R U :O
>>738569328>>738570187It's fun when you view it less as a strategy game and more as FFV-2 since the Job system feels like a direct evolution of that game's.
>>738570064>Good sound designthis guy gets it
>>738570165Well, until he got stabbed like a BITCH by his wifelmao
>>738572941Nah, Delita lived and became one of the best kings in history.
I am so sick of this retarded >pretend to be a zoomer, pick a popular classic and make a thread saying "IT'S BAD UNC"posting metaKILL YOURSELF
I dunno, I loved it when I played it years ago.
>>738569328It's literally the best game ever createdThe recent Ivalice Chronicles Remaster made it even better
>>738569328Normal people aren't autistics who feel the need to grind everything until it is maxed. But you'll ignore this and continue to pretend you aren't the problem but the game is.
>>738572973That's so pathetic and pointless I don't believe anyone would actually bother with it. But then again, I look at people posting online and realize it just might be true.
>>738572970>his dying words are wondering if Ramza had a better time riding off into the sunset like Indiana Jones and if he should've gone with himKWAB
>>738573051that make these threads all day long, earlier today there was an FFX one, same fucking gay template
>>738570140Depends by whom, in the public eye they are both heroes and Dycedarg died at the hands of a ruffian/terrorist.If you mean in the wider sense of the story Dycedarg wanted to amass power for the sake of having power itself, while Delita wielded that power to make Ivalice a better place.
>>738573057He didn't die. We know he lived for a long while afterwards.
>>738573057>Thinks that someone who survived political war espionage intrigue died by being stabbed by a small dagger by a girl with no training while wearing the best armor money can buyI know you're not too bright but come on...
>>738573051It's a thread, we should just hijack it and talk about the game.What would you add in FFT to make it better?
>>738572970Delita had nothing but his legacy. He had no friends or loved ones by his side when he was king.But the prologue implies he won't even have that anymore. Historians were uncovering more books that'll show the true history.
>>738570479>TO came before it(and most of the team that made that game, made FFT), so it was hardly ahead of its time though, even if it was somewhat superior a production.TO was more focused on giving the player choices. With FFT you're there for the narrative ride.
>>738573289You mean the history where Delita is a just and noble king?The fact that a literal chosen one was going around killing demons at the same time doesn't erase all the good Delita accomplished.
>>738569328Play Sword of Convallaria.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UBDfszxzHUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5_H8S3eLF4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxuLL8bVpO0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNTF7zQcGdghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1K3knaRcM
>>738573272>What would you add in FFT to make it better?I would do the one thing many games of its genre skipped and fucking Vandal Hearts had - visible equipment on sprites so you don't have inspect every character to see what they're wearing.
>>738573450is the singleplayer actually worth it, though? I don't care for the gacha aspect.
>>738573057He lived. He killed Ovelia. Are you dumb?
>>738573452It does with hand slots (although only when the items are being used) as for the body don't you think it may fuck with the design?
>>738573289I guess that's the point of the overarching story.Ramzan was true to himself and despite being branded a heretic by (((((them))))) he died surrounded by friends, while Delita despite being becoming king employed the same subterfuge as corrupt politician did and lived the rest of his life in fear of getting a dagger in his back.
>>738573483nta and the answer is no. there's nothing special about convallaria's mechanics and the story is barely passable. infact, convallaria's mechanics are somehow less interesting. they removed the ability to turn your characters for example
>>738573298fft's story is just the chaos route of to rewritten to make the protagonist seem like less of a do nothing pussy.
>>738573272>What would you add in FFT to make it better?The Tweak mod basically fixes all problems I have with it.Maybe some flavor stuff to make generics more important like you getting an extra amount of money/unique-items per battle based on the level of human units were on the bench, justified as "doing other deeds" so there's an incentive to train them too or add a few more in your party during map or story battles.
>>738573572>t. fake history propagator
>>738573272TIC remaster already fixed everything
>>738573272More jobsLess shallow storylineMore stagesFind a way to make monsters feel better to use
>>738573572They both lived actually, according to the Durai Papers. The stabbing each other thing was just a little lover's quarrel no big deal
>>738573272>What would you add in FFT to make it better?The secondary skillet gives you a passive based on the class.For example a Black Mage who has Knight as subclass gets access to swords and armor, a Dragoon with a thief subclass gets +1 to speed and +5% phis/magic evasion, etc.
>>738572973I've always strongly preferred Tactics Ogre. Even toy games like Shining Force were more fun for me.
FFT is a truly great game but LUCT is better (so is MotBQ, but very few people played that one). The remake of that one just filtered bads who couldn't grind their way out this time
>>738574272I don't know if I hate the new UI that makes it look like a cheap phone game or the clearly fed-to-an-algorythm "upscaled" sprites.
Delita became everything he hated. Ramza never compromised his morals and got to ride off into the sunset with his cute little sister/lover. Ramza won.
>>738569328it's a loud minority. the advance titles are much better gameplay wise but shit story
>>738570042>ahead of its time tactical jrpgs had been a thing since 8 bits you fucking larper
>>738574541We can scream about soul all we want, but the new Job menu is infinitely better than the old circle one. Now it actually conveys information.
>>738573483Yes, it's worth playing, however you'll need keys to progress the story. At first you'll have experience several narrative branches, your choices will determine the ending, then the story follows a linear path.
>>738574431Too meta for this series, it would be good for a stand-alone game if they really balanced it somehow but that stuff tends to be broken by people and then you need do patches and then people complain you nerfed or buffed the shit they didn't want changed, etc. They would need to go all in on making a hardcore tactics game and try to aim for that particular demographic, while Tactics is already pushing it when FF has a large portion of the fanbase who do not want that much difficulty or learning shit. I think even the story is too complicated for most people.
>>738569328matsuno slop
>>738574580It's all perspective. Delita was able to be beloved by all of Ivalice, only feared by those who knew him personally. Ramza was hated by all of Ivalice, only loved by those who knew him personally
How many autosaves are there, guys?
>>738574272Did they add the missing War of the Lions content yet?
>>738569328Seethe
>>738574853True but I feel it would make up for "bad" classes abilities, who the fuck wants the Knight's rend as secondary, or the gimped Dragoon Jump?
>>738574912Lol
>>738574971Cid ThunderCock indeed.
>>738574690>>738574909How is the new translation in TIC?
>>738574272Ramzan sounds like he's constantly trying to hold in a fart, and they gave Delita the most stereotypical young bongland fag voice possible.Agrias is okay though, maybe a bit too HAM
>>738574690Looks like convoluted shit. The info you want is in the status screen not packed into the job selection menu.
>>738575067Closer to the original script.Matsuno wanted the flowery prose that WotL had but someone told him that most players were retards who can't read if it's not in commoner speech.
>>738574661>the advance titles are much better gameplay wiseAnyone that says this is a registered retard. The advanced titles have half of the mechanics to play around with and the enemy ai is somehow even more retarded than the one in fft.
>>738575067They reused the pretentious and inaccurate translation of the PSP release.
>>738574912>did they add the bad content to scam people into buying a shitty PSP port?lol
>>738573085This
>>738569328I mean, if you don't like strategy or final fantasy, what exactly do you expect?
>>738575320But the scam was this "remaster" anon, get your facts straight.
>>738575067it omitted the queen reference so it's still shit>>738575179>Matsuno wanted the flowery prose that WotL hadwhy didn't he write it that way in japanese then?
>>738574912>>738575320See? The golems fox+grapes that shit very quickly.
FFTA is a really good game and highly underratedI know this is about FFT but I just wanted to get that out there
>>738575438>what exactly do you expect?Some (you)s
>>738575586It's not underrated at all
>>738575475He did write it like that in Japanese, a lot of lines are ambiguous or interpretable so you need the context of the story to guide you to what they are saying, in English there isn't exactly a way to do that without going for long spiels, WotL tried but caught flak by everyone for making the text a few letters longer than the l I t t l e m o n e y translation.
>>738574912There are some mods like for adding the Dark Knight and Onion Knight classeshttps://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasytacticstheivalicechronicles/mods/34
>>738575465PSP is absolutely the worst version.
>>738573272Make items unique instead of just numbers go up.I want a sword that allows me to cast haste, or a cape that adds Regen without having to be 2 battles from the end of the game.
>>738575873Why?I loved finally playing it widescreened.
>>738575902It's funny because that's the Vandal Hearts 2 system where you learn skills from weapons and can be transferred between the same weapon type upon mastery.
>>738575873But it's the version the remake is based on, they lied multiple times through their teeth about that but the proof is there for everyone to see.
>>738569328the story is just>i don't want to fight you>I don't believe you.>huh? but i really don't want to fight you. will you believe me this time>No, fuck you for being a Beoulve.>but like i don't want to fight you tho, lay down your arms please, y do we fite?>Don't care, fuck nobility.>ok :(from start to finish. oh and>HAHAHA, I LOVE POW'R!>but like i don't want to fight you tho...>POW'R!>please listen! demonic power bad! stop!>POW'RRRR>ok :(
After playing and modding both FFT and TO extensively you know what I realized? /v/ is fucking retarded.
>>738575661being ambiguous doesn't mean fake old timey language. when japs want to make someone sound antiquated they make them talk like samurai, which they didn't do in the original script.
>>738575946reminder there is literally NO reason to skip vh2 anymore. you can change the dual move system to a classical turn-based one now.https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5400/
>>738576086>Workplace makes you work>At the end of the month they don't pay you>You get angry at them>They hit you with "but we don't want you to be angry at us, can't you just keep working for free?"You'd be reasonably upset too.
>>738576157I'm into FFT modding but I don't know the first thing about TO, what mods would you suggest?
>>738576086That's not what happened. That doesn't even work as a metaphor for what happened. Ramza's reticence only exists for what? Chapter 1? And that's because the narrative of what he was taught by his brothers and at the Academy began to shatter as he started to encounter actual people with actual problems. By the end of Chapter 2, he's already accepted that every major political installation is corrupt and he has no allies and by Chapter 4 he's made it his life's mission to grind them all to dirt. And that was before they kidnapped his sister. By the time he kills Dycedarg, he feels zero remorse at the death of his house because his house had become corrupt and therefore deserved to die. Because, surprise, despite his brothers shitting in him for being half commoner, Ramza upheld Barbaneth's qualities of knighthood more than either.
>>738576382You overestimate bootlickers. It's selectively bred for behaviour. They are happy their masters don't hate them (they do).
>>738576534You know what's doubly funny? The game straight out tells you that the Crown was forced to pay out reparations for the war but that those reparations didn't come from the noble houses. The nobility just taxed the fuck out of the commoners. During a famine. And then called the commoners uppity rebels when they said "fuck this, we're not doing it." Like Weigraf said, the common people fought just as hard during the war but unlike the nobility, they didn't have a castle to go back to.
>>738576439Your own. You'd have to join a discord to get anywhere and doing anything close to the modding FFT gets is not realistic with 0 tools. You could have a less retarded TO version of your own with tweaks to patch out glaring flaws but anything as extensive as One Vision would take years.
>>738572403FE and FFT are both SRPGs but they're completely different iterations. Personally don't really like FFT style SRPGs and I hate that it's the format most people use these days.
>>738575927Cropped screen.Lag.Butchered sound effects.Shoehorned in extras that don't fit the rest of the game.
>>738576449>By the end of Chapter 2, he's already accepted that every major political installation is corrupt and he has no alliesThat's bullshit because one of the first things to happen in chapter 3 is his visit to Zalbag.
>>738574272does the remaster changed the way stat growth works (permanently and being tied to the current job)?because it feels ass to level characters as anything but a ninja/mime
>>738577186No
>>738575586I wonder if they'll port those too
>>738577186How many of these games have to come out for people to realize that leveling as specific Jobs is such a negligible part of your power you can safely disregard it?
>>738577329
>>738577186>does the remaster changed the way stat growth works (permanently and being tied to the current job)?No. It's not Tactics Ogre: Reborn.
>>738577372That's not what they complained about.
>>738576449NTA but I don't think Ramza had no remorse, up until the end he tried to talk his brothers back to the right path but was only partly successful with Zalbag.Killing Dycedarg was a spur of the moment decision because he turned into a Lucavi before him and he knew he needed to be put down to not endanger any more lives.It also has possibly my favourite quote from the game "we are the sum of our deeds not of our names" never once did Ramza go "nobility bad" if anything he was more pissed of because he thinks nobles should enjoy their position of nobility BECAUSE they are of noble heart and a paragon to people and for people to rally behind.
>>738577479Yes it is.
>>738576898To tell Zalbaag that their lord brother and Duke Larg were in collusion to force war at the hands of some unknown party. An indictment Zalbaag disowns him for>Ramza: I was there, Zalbaag, and I know all that followed. Princess Ovelia was ultimately to be slain, but someone intervened. She lives, and is now in Goltanna's care. Had the assassination succeeded, the Crown would surely have named Duke Goltanna a traitor and rallied its banners against him.>Zalbaag: And who would go to such lengths?>Ramza: (sighs) The one responsible is... Our lord brother, Dycedarg.>Zalbaag: Do you stand here accusing our brother of having some hand in this business with the princess?>Ramza: So you knew naught of this? Even so, you must know what Dycedarg is capable of!>Zalbaag: Enough! Who have you become, that you do not trust your own brother? Your own flesh and blood!?>Ramza: Zalbaag! You speak of trust, yet am I not your brother too? Why will you not trust me?>Zalbaag: What have you ever done to inspire my trust? The mistake was my own. Until today I had looked on you as a true brother. But your mother's common blood forever stains you common. You are not fit to bear the Beoulve name! Begone from my sight!
>>738577626You don't have to CTRL+V the script. I obviously know the game better than you do.
>>738577512It's not. Your reply missed the point of optimization being a chore. There was never an argument about optimization being needed or the benefits being negligible.
>>738577485Fair but also Zalbaag is basically what Ramza was in Chapter 1. He believes fully in what the Beoulve name stands for. The only reason he started to question Dycedarg was because he overheard his conversation with the Knights Templar where Dycedarg basically admits to poisoning their father and he launches his own investigation. Which, to Zalbaag's credit, he's not so brainwashed as to ignore evidence of corruption when he sees it but it was only by luck that he overheard that conversation. He did not take Ramza at his word even though Ramza believes in what he's doing so much that he willingly threw away his prestigious name and made himself the most hated man in the country. Which, yet again to Zalbaag's credit it, he did at least invite him in after he was branded a heretic even though he's a devout of Glabados
>>738577774You have a strange idea of optimization if you spend hours doing something for 0.0001% return.
>>738569328It's absolute crap.Making you grind to unlock points to spend on moves that should be unlocked already is the worst fucking game design ever.And the USA version increases the cost of grinding points you need to unlock moves.
>>738569328the story is really good
>>738572910>posts ai sloplol
>>738570064>niggas on a chessboardNoac. Will remember that. There's an actual chess tactics coming, where chess pieces have stats. The idea is great, the execution likely lacking.>>738572910Why? I don't remember any great sound design.
>>738578307You have a strange idea of argumentation if you think dancing around the main point is seen as anything but dumb. By optimization I obviously meant character optimization and not my time's optimization. It should be obvious since the original anon's post was about character stats while leveling up.
>>738578341>And the USA version increases the cost of grinding points you need to unlock moves.Lol, idiot.Also, why should they be already unlocked?
>>738578447>I don't remember any great sound design.you just don't get it
>>738578835Coming off of FFTA and hearing the sound effect of the shield blocking an attack with the relevant animation had me smiling when I first played FFT.
>>738578835Pls tell me there's a yuna mod for fft
they should have doubled the party size so it was more like tactics ogre what the HECK were they thinking.
>>738578950I get why some people like the TO approach but the jrpg party size helps make FFT feel faster. I like both depending on my mood but I certainly wouldn't change FFT. The maps are also too small for 10 vs 10 battles.
>>738578912I dunno but this is the coolest thing I've ever seen and I hope projects like this are completed someday. I'd love to replay every FF game in FFTs engine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8TxAIonigs
>>738579126This looks excellent. The sprites are fantastic. Terra is skinny.
>>738579126DOPE
>>738578950>tarnishing my FFT with 14's bullshit
>>738580947FF14 has been a weird crossover central for some reason.
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>>738579126it's insane level of effort, but re-creating entire games would be redundant. I like the idea, though.
