why didn't games in the past have this?so many people probably quit gaming forever because they died in UT/Quake 1 time and someone said "gg ez noobs no re"
online gaming should be the wild west
>>738577503nobody used chat back then, except in mmos. when you killed someone else you made up whatever funny gesture you could i.e. teabagging or you had some games that would have situational voiced lines bound to hotkeys i.e. press f1 and your character would say 'i need ammo' like rtcw.
>>738577503Because the idea of you being able to say what you want, even if barely anyone sees it, terrifies them
The larger the audience of a game, the more restricted it will be due to The Tragedy of the Commons. It's easier to be a huge dick or fag in large scale games.
>>738577503If you fold that easy to a simple taunt you have no business playing a game about blowing each other up in the first place
>>738577503In quake 3 even bots were coded to shittalk you Get fucking real
>>738577831>a game about blowing each other upuh, you know video games aren't real, right?
I read it as>so many people probably died because someone said "gg ez noobs no re"at first
>>738577503>UT/Quake 1Unironically PC gamers back then had better manners. Like, people would talk shit SOMETIMES, but generally people were pretty nice to each other. Partly because if you were playing UT or even CS 1.6 or hell even CS:Source: You didn't have matchmaking. Meaning: You found comp. matches by using third party services, and joining a server that someone had to host. And if you were a turbo toxic asshole all the time, people just kinda didn't want to play with / against you. You essentially filtered yourself out. And again: That's not to say that back then we had no toxic behaviour, no shitheads, no flaming. absolutely we did. Without a question. But back then people were sometimes toxic. SOMETIMES. Now with matchmaking, people stopped caring. Why be nice, ever? You're NEVER seeing these people again, might as well yell at them. So now ways to moderate are more needed than ever.
>>738578334ut2004 even has built in voice taunts you can use, people just decided to become thin skinned faggots instead of just fucking dealing with it.
>>738578762back then people playing these games where white and male, then came minorities and women and now everyone needs to watch what they are saying like it's a fucking family gathering.
>>738578762Why the fuck should I be nice to people who constantly antagonize and hate me? You literally provoke me to be angry at the people that I cared and loved for the most and then they knowingly off each other and point their fingers at me, blaming me for hating them back and then antagonizing and grabbing hold to every word that I say without a care for their own actions."Cant take those words back now cant you, huh?"So you can hit me, kill me, bark at me, do whatever evil shit that you ever wanted to do, but its my fault that you do it?LOL, there is absolutely no other lesson here than you people absolutely fucking suck dick.Shoot me and be done with it.
>>738578879You are one of the people he's describing as the kind that would essentially filter yourself out
>>738577503sticks and stones faggot
>>738578921I was never thrown out of any server back in those days, and we called each other niggers or bitches constantly. Can't do that with actual niggers and bitches around though. Try not to be too offended by these words, faggot.
>>738578793Auto-taunts were a thing back in UT99 too."I am the alpha and the omega" is seared into my brain because Xan kept beating my ass in the campaign.
>>738578762Practically no one was a "turbo toxic asshole" stop using that retarded fucking corpo speak you fucking nigger back in the day since there was no need to. You still had your avenues to vent. Being able to be a cunt every now and then helps to curb this behavior since you get some continuous release. Not nowadays. It's either rage explosions or snarky passive aggressive shit forever since no one gets to be himself. Sure, matchmaking definitely fucks up behaviors, but it wouldn't be as bad without overmoderation.
>>738579451I will corpo your dirty asshole, golem
If you can't even handle some random shit talking or can't just mute someone. Then you have bigger problems than just that.You need to get off the internet all together and go see a Therapist or something. I don't know. I can't imagine ever being so emotional that some random words on the internet instantly make you cry. Insane.
>>738577503Surely people aren't that sensitive for real anon
>open 4chan thread>Possible Bad Message from [Anonymous] x 450
>>738579509these days you even get reported on 4chan.org for calling someone an n-word, that train has long left the station, now we have AI chat moderation and filters and censorship, can't even call someone an asshole online anymore without someone having a meltdown.
>>738579402>Can't do that with actual niggers and bitches around though.I dunno, you're sounding like a total little bitch right now, which casts shade upon your whole post, so I'm gonna have to say nah, your faggot ass would 100% have been filtered from any reputable servers.Granted, based on your post, you're probably also a third-worlder, so I guess it's to be expected that you wouldn't be kicked from the one server your favela hut in brazil would've had access to and shared with the 4 other people in your village that had a computer
bait thread
>>738579621Got banned for calling someone a Pahjeet a few months back.
>>738577585You're thinking of the 90s and early 00s. Now everything needs to be a safe space for mental patients.
>>738578879This, banter is a anglosphere thing.
>>738579640you sound pretty triggered, people like you are the reason we are having this thread, how about you grow some thicker skin, nigger bitch.
>>738579451"turbo toxic asshole" is not corpo speak. "Disruptive player" is corpo speak. Also:>matchmaking definitely fucks up behaviors, but it wouldn't be as bad without overmoderation.Bad take. Not true. This is like giant corpos telling you: "Oh we don't need regulations. If you get rid of the regulations, each company will just decide on their own not to dumb their toxic waste in the river, don't even worry about it!" The Idea that stronger moderation is even partly responbile for how shitty players are to each other is a downright laughable notion, and the Idea that it would get better if moderation was more lax, is demonstrably untrue. Any unmoderated online space quickly turns into an absolute fucking nightmare-world.
>>738579509>call someone a fucking idiot in a thread full of flaming and off-topic slapfighting>banned within 5 minutes and post removed>everything else stays upI must've replied to a mod or something
>>738579451You know, many people can just handle not being a cunt, without needed an avenue to microdose it. The assertion of>no one gets to be himself is flawed in this sense, as quite a lot of them just won't be dicks regardless, and are being themselves when they act above board.
>>738579845that's not what it's about at all. Even if someone is a complete cunt, it's on you if you are offended by it. Just mute them and move on, no chat filters or moderation needed. Every adult should be able to handle this, but we are treated like children who can't take a comment.
>>738579825>>matchmaking definitely fucks up behaviors, but it wouldn't be as bad without overmoderation.>Bad takeI'd honestly love if someone ever sat down and looked at the generational and platform divide that comes into play with this, because it's interesting seeing things like people post that MW2 Riot Shield argument and being all>oh man, it was so much better back then>it was great when people just got to argue and shoot the shit like this>no moderation, just mute if you didn't like itand I just remember at the time: such things like that lack of moderation are why PC players had such a terrible fucking perception of console multiplayer. Like it was just constantly seen as this piss-filled play pit that was full of teenagers and kids that wouldn't shut the fuck up and you just had to tolerate, and just muting was always seen as being a shitty half-solution to just giving them the boot.
>>738580004>Every adult should be able to handle thisAdults are handling the situation, the same way they always handle the situation: putting unruly children like you in time out when you're being disruptive.
>>738579738I get banned more often for calling anons Pajeets or shit talking India than I do for calling anons niggers or criticizing any other country. Fucking streetshitter curry niggers have infested the janny ranks.
>>738580083>wahh lack of moderation QQMeanwhile console players have to deal with real problems when forced to play with PC players, like the fact all the hacking cheaters come from favela monkeys or slavshits on PC
>>738580158so you can't handle insults? is that what you are saying? I guess it is judging from your repsonse. Try not to cry pls, and adult will change your diapers shortly.
>>738580158we actually have a motherfucker defending this shit in here, is there a discord raid going on I don't know about?
>>738580083Yeah, but at the same time, you mute those people and move on. You had a bunch of unruly kids spewing shit every now and then on PC too. You'd either make fun of them until they cried or you just muted them. The problem basically resolves itself. And really, it's not like the riot shield video was an everyday occurrence either.
>>738581064>You had a bunch of unruly kids spewing shit every now and then on PC too. You'd either make fun of them until they cried or you just muted themNo, on PC you always just had them kicked instead of having to deal with them.
>>738577503>why didn't games in the past have this?Because it wasn't legally required.Online games got away with "online interactions are unrated" for decades, meaning that UGC was automatically considered +18 due to the nature of unrated content. So if your child was playing a multiplayer game with a chat, it was basically your responsibility as a parent. This changed when California, Canada, UK, Australia and the EU around 2010-2014 started to legally require moderation in any way possible to fight child grooming - if it is simple to implement on a technical level. These laws intentionally picked this type of wording to assure that emergent technologies (AI, voice transcription, etc) are used when they become readily available. This is why around the early 2010s text chat suddenly disappeared for AAA games and why a ton of PC-first games only had voice chat in that era, because California sort of spearheaded this push for child online safety at first (then the EU, which has been drafting regulations like this before the UK, despite the UK getting more publicity for it). Now we've been in an era where voice transcription is super easy to do (ie, Whisper) for quite a while, so almost all law-abiding games will record your voice and transcribe it for moderation too, meaning they all have to have moderation to a degree and have to implement it. You can check the ToS of any AA(A) game in the past 8 years that has voice chat and you will see that they process your voice unless it has player run dedicated servers, in which case you would be technically required to moderate it.So what sort of moderation is coming after text chat and voice chat? Probably behaviour tracking. Fortnite has already started to ban certain emotes in combination with other emotes, because they could be construed as sexual harassment of minors. Or other odd markers, like how Discord bans you if you add too many minors at once.
