Visual novel would be a hundred times better if they had a smaller game attached to them, like a dodgeball game or bullet hell. They always feel so fucking barebones,that's why nobody calls them games.
what a dumbass
>>738580042That still wouldn't make the games, they would just be visual novels with play accompaniment to kill time and distract. TLoU, Uncharted and nuGoW are examples of VNs with play accompaniment and they're still shit.
>this is your childhood friend. she has tits and likes you.>okay now play this bullet hell segment before you can get the next sceneOp you are fucking braindead
>>738581985How about:>this is your childhood friend, she has tits and likes you>now play this persona mind labyrinth rpg segment to figure out what the correct dialogue option is to have sex with her
>>738581985Every game with a story is like this, though. Persona is rpg segments interrupted by VN.
>>738580042waaaah reading's too hard
>add bullet hell to vn>vn fans wants to skip the bullet hell part>bullet hell fans wants to skip the vn partWow, so much better now
>>738580042that just amounts to pretentious gameplay shit used by fans of the goonerbait to drag people into it
>>738581985this is unironically more soulful
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>>738584348You posted a game nobody talks about besides when it's about localization discussions
>>738580042>Visual novel would be a hundred times better if they had a smaller game attached to themThere's literally hundreds of visual novels with gameplay, what the fuck are you smoking?Not even stuff that are "technically visual novels", there's full-blown JRPGs with dungeons and boss fights and world traversal that are classifeid as visual novels in Japan and on databases because the story is told through sprites, text-boxes and CGs.
>>738585243>there's full-blown JRPGs with dungeons and boss fights and world traversal that are classifeid as visual novels in Japan and on databases because the story is told through sprites, text-boxes and CGs.post one
>>738585278Evenicle
>>738580042They would be better if they were adventure games instead of only cringe anime artwork and text, that's all they need. That's why Telltale games Life is Strange are better than all VNs.
>>738580042Every game should remove unnecessary gameplay and be a visual novel instead.
>>738580042There are countless visual novels like that.All Key mainline vn's since Little Buster have a minigame that even has it's own secret ending.
>>738580042VNs are for overweight niggas
>>738580042I have a game for you, bro.
>>738581985She has tits? SOLD
>>738580042No fucking way. If the VN is good the game takes you out of the story and fucks the pacing. If the game is good the VN wastes time and eats up resources.
>>738581985>complete challenge before progressing anon discovers video games
>>738580042What about VNs with puzzle sections like Ghost Trick, Hotel Dusk, Professor Layton, Ace Attorney and Zero Escape games?
So what would be the acceptable level of a small game and how much would it have to involve the player to be bundled in properly with a VN? If it has to be a game it can't be any of the current autoplay bullshit that some gacha games do, so a puzzlegame? Thematic tetris-clone? The sensible option would be that the minigame would be related to the VN story and you have to succeed in it to get the good option, or fuck it all up to get the bad option.
>>738585538Telltale didn't make Life is Strange lmao
>>738580042They made that game and it's a gem.
>>738580042you mean like this?
>>738580042If your vn has no gameplay, I can't take it seriously. It's sub-rpgmaker storygame.
>>738580042Why just a small game instead of VN + genuinely solid J-RPG?
>>738586923>gameplayPressing one button is no gameplay?
>>738580042They should all have a strip mahjong game included
>>738585278 >>738587080It's Kamidori btw. I thought it had English logo in the image.
>>738586298Telltale games and Life is Strange
>>738587127Yes
>>738581985Replace "tits" with "antlers", and this is just Deltarune.
>>738587551kek
>>738586264Those are just adventure games
>>738580042Princess Waltz has card game combat that was enjoyable.
>>738580042genshin impact and honkai star rail are visual novels
>>738586264"Detective game" isn't a genre?! I always assumed that was a thing...
>>738580042>Visual novel would be a hundred times better if they weren't visual novelsIndeed they would, incredible revelation.
>>738580042There's actually a good few visual novels that do this or more specifically had a fandisk that included mini-game. Unfortunately it's hard enough to get a Vinnie translated in the first place so most gameplayge are locked to Japan. Leaf is probably your best bet for vinnies with gameplay. You had mini-game collections for the To-Heart games and of course Utawarerumono is an srpg
>>738580042>bullet hellYuru Kill was mostly like Ace Attorney except some disputes were resolved with a shooter level. I think people who wanted a VN were pissed off that there are shooter levels, and people who wanted a shooter are pissed off that there's so much VN stuff. It's probably best to treat them more like books than games. If you decide you are making a game, it's worth thinking how long a "cutscene" is.
>>738580042That's why Baldr Sky is the greatest VN of all time.
