I'm not an Armored Core guy. Is it good?
>>738591316Yes it's good. The story is also unrelated to previous games so you can go in blind.
It's just Gundam Dark Souls. I played the PS2 ones when I was a kid, I remember it felt like the PS2 Gundam games to me. I like Gundam.
>>738591316just fucking try it retard man
>>738591316not reallyit's a mediocre mecha game and a mediocre action game
>>738591316>I'm not an Armored Core guy.You will be.
>>738591316If you've never played the series, you'll love it.If you have: it's a good game, the best in the series, but not the best From game.
>>738591687too bad all the missions were piss easy. had to work quite a bit to complete objectives in previous games.
>>738591316Did you play Ace Combat Zero? If you did go play AC6 right now
>>738591316I wasn't either but I can assure you that this is one of the best games I have ever played. Its definitely one of the best games of this current generation without a doubt and I would even go so far to say one of the best games ever period. In fact ACVI might even be the very best current gen game imo. I know its a low bar considering the gen but the game is still in fact extremely good. I'll be playing more Armored Core soon because this game was so good. I plan to play 4 and For Answer next and then will follow that up with the PS1 era games.
>>738591316It’s legitimately excellent.
>>738591316I generally dislike Armored Core games and I thought it was fantastic.
>>738591316That might be a boon because you don't expect it to be the exact same as a game you've already played. It is good. Flying your robot around firing a gun, shooting missiles and then going in for a pilebunker hit looks and sounds amazing. There seems to be a big learning curve where people early on don't understand boosting into the air or away from attacks and seethe, but it doesn't take much to learn what works.
>>738591687I don't know if it's the best FROM game, but it's definitely the best made FROM game. It's the only release they've ever put out that's actually technically competent.
>>738591903It is too easy, especially compared to other Armored Core games. Some of the secret NG+ and NG++ missions skew way harder than normal where I wondered how the fuck I was supposed to beat them. It's a little weird that this company released a game that's often too easy, but there's challenge in it if you look hard enough.
>>738591316You're going to catch on really quick that it's just a worse Dark Souls. It captures absolutely nothing about mecha that you're looking for. /m/fags just cope over it because it's the best we got.
as a person of core, only ac1-4 and their expansions / spinoffs were good. everything afterward reeks of souls influence
>>738592519surprisingly apt description, a fake mecha game for fake mecha fans
>>738591316No. It's just another rollslopper but with a giant robot coat of paint. That's why it was the worst selling From game since Dark Souls 2 and got abandoned almost immediately in favor of more Elden Ring content.
>>738592797oh damn
Anybody comparing it to Dark Souls is lying to you. It's a mission based action game with 3 axis combat where your positioning matters more than anything. Good customization, good going fast, good shooting big gun, good narrative good vibes
>>738591903I found it to have the most skill-heavy and thoughtful mission design in the series. It's not like previous games were bad by any stretch, but they were sometimes RNG-heavy, or prone to sloppy and tedious design.
>>738592696nobody was looking for mecha souls you fucking faggot
>>738592972>rollslopper but with a giant robot coat of paintYou're literally not rolling. You can tap a button to quickly boost in a direction like they've had since the first fucking game. If the game was boosting to abuse i-frames when a boss is attacking and hit them right after, I'd call it mecha Dark Souls. Boosting isn't invincible, and you aren't often timing a boost specifically to avoid a certain attack. That can happen if you have a low health no shields robot, kind of like the same thing would happen in older Armored Core games. The moment the game was announced, a lot of 40 year old men said "This will just be Dark Souls!" When it wasn't, they just kept saying the same shit instead of admitting they were wrong.
>>738591316These games are fun as hell and I wish they made more cause it doesn’t seem like they cost much to make. Also only trannies side with Ayre because they also think they have a woman’s voice in their head.
Now I'm Scary
>>738591316Does it play like dolls nest or is it trash?
>>738592607>It's the only release they've ever put out that's actually technically competent.100%, and now I realize it's still their last game that isn't a spin-off or expansion of Elden Ring. Looking forward to seeing how their next full game carries forward from AC6.
>>738593374It's faster Doll's Nest with better part variety (functional) and slightly worse part variety (visual). It's a good action game. Why do people need every game to be 1000% perfect in every way? Are they afraid of being made fun of?
>>738593374as in janky and awkward? then no
>>738592741This is so fucking retarded I cannot even begin to describe it5 and 6 are nothing like Souls, especially not 5. How the fuck is Verdict Day influenced by Souls, you colossal retard?
>>738592797You say that as if being a homosexual drooling retard ("mecha fan") is a desirable label.
So is Armored Core 6 joining the ranks of games you're just not allowed to talk about on /v/ because of two or three retarded schizos?
>>738593520sorry to hear you're terminally brown, hope your next life treats you better
>>738593569>two or threeMost of /v/ hates the fuck out of From Software.
>>738593675Oh, okay. Say by the way, I found this picture of you. Bro?
Daemon x Machina is better.
>>738593569just hide posts not worth replying to as they come
what the fuck is a FROM?these robots are awesoem
>>738593830Holy shit no it is not.I wanted to give this game a chance but it's absolute dog water. The on foot sections are an enormous slog, the bosses are MMORPG unreactive set pieces, the characters are not good, and the story is absolutely nothing. Build variety is extremely narrow and the boost controls have all these weird dead zones and end lag frames that make it feel awkward to even move around. I went through this game to the very end, and I kept waiting for it to get good. It never did.
>>738593675no we don't
>>738591316I like armor core and hate it so youll probably like it
>>738594116>old games were slow ans boring>AC6 is fast and funBased
>>738593830You can't even say that with a straight face.
>>738593675No. From is one of the few developers /v/ likes, but when it comes to things /v/ likes, there's two categories: popular shit with a loud minority of haters and unpopular shit no one dislikes because the people who would dislike it never tried it to begin with.So for example, /v/ loves Souls and Undertale and FNAF, but they're also super popular so they have a legion of haters, but /v/ also loves Planescape Torment and Deus Ex and God Hand, but nobody hates those games because nobody's played them.
>>738594116I like both styles, retardOr should I say I like all six styles. Every fucking generation of Armored Core has been distinct. Literally the only people who don't like this game are trans tryhards who want gamer cred or catboy spergs who can't stand the idea of playing something other than their one special interest game. It won best action game for a reason.
I think Arquebus Balteus is an all time great boss fight.Elder kino.
>>738594530>all that instant turningWow, guess AC4 is trash.
>>738594530>he's running a heavy ashmead and zimmerman build and wonders why his gameplay is slowlmao rofl
>>738594764>boostslop>skill
>>738594887lmfao tell me you've never played ac6 without telling me you've never played ac6look at this unranked scrub
>>738594887Both of these are fun, though.
>>738591316best action game of the past 5 years
>>738594970Dont see the problem. That looks pretty kino.
>No word on AC7>Any hope of AC6 DLC drowned in eldenslopI JUST WANT MORE MECH GAME
>>738595069>he's posting a single player part HAHAHAHAHA
game literally has infinite depth and more moment to moment decision making than armored core has ever hadunlike souls games you can't just go "Erm when frankleforph raises his big arm roll forward and use heavy attack" and always know the counter. At any given moment you can be anywhere in 3d space, have varying degrees of lock on or tracking, have varying degrees of fuel left, have varying degrees of supplementary fire coming at you and have to decide in seconds if you're climbing, falling, approaching, retreating, strafing, attacking, boosting, assault boosting, kicking, using your expansion, dropping a weapon because you're taking too many potshots - It's just not comparable. Balteus, especially pre-nerf, and especially especially arquebus balteus, are perfect exercises in 3d combat. Literally never been done better in a video game.
>>738593989AC6 isn't even a real AC game, it's Sekiro with mechs.>the story is absolutely nothingAC6's plot was ripped wholesale from Eureka Seven>Build variety is extremely narrowTanks are comically overtuned in AC6 because they removed turn speed and added stagger to be more like Sekiro instead of being an actual mech simulator.AC6's soundtrack is also complete ass. Do not remember a single track from that game.
>>738595393Who the fuck said anything about AC6?>muh staggerHoly shit fuck off. Stunlock loops in old gen were more of a disrupting, narrowing factor than ACS Strain could ever be.
I've never been a mecha fan but I always liked the hard style of AC.I liked the setting, music, story and characters of AC6.gameplay-wise, I don't like most fromsoft games.I wonder what it would've been like had it been developed by another studio.
>>738595447>letting people express themselves is..... LE BAD
>>738595447imagine going out of your way to look this up and save on your computer
>>738591316it's competent but it's not good
>>738592797this. it's pretty good
>>738595517you know your enemies also have strong lock on right? you're trying to make it sound like you just hit the enemy no matter what, which is not truealso holy shit just don't click the right stick if you're such a faggot about it, go cut your dick off
>Xenoblade>Fire Emblem>Elden Ring>Armored Core 6>Mother 3Any other games with dedicated schizophrenic freaks that prevent threads from existing on /v/?
>frogposterAaaaand it's retarded.
>>738596045rent free
>>738595956right yes, because I didn't come to the same conclusion as you that means i never fought and murdered zinaida and the mars retardi bet you had to go human plus to beat seraph rofl
>>738596076frogs living in your head rent-free?
>>738595874Metroid has ACfag.Any elves at all summons Noldorfag
Personally I'd move Last Raven up a tier but I like most of the series.
>>738596168I swear these people have to be Mossad misery agents, I cannot imagine something less rewarding than obsessively stalking threads for games you don't like
>That is who I am, not a mere ENERGY AT 30%>ENERGY AT 30%... is part of my existence!
>>738591316Hmmm, 67(72 actually)
>>738595956>kleinAre you serious?
>>738596412I think he might be.
forgive me for noticing but the mainline rollslops (DS and ER) are endlessly slurped by /v/, meanwhile From's attempts to deviate from the formula with a more fleshed out idea (sekiro, AC6) are subject to really retarded criticisms from a loud minority, and it's obvious these fags are autistic, so you shouldn't listen to them and instead enjoy fromsoftware's objective masterpieces
>>738596647Dude, klein was the worst example you could have posted. He is incredibly trivial to beat.>grenade launcher on tankGg
Remember to never use Mind Beta legs.
>>738596647Klein has always been easy. Did you just Google the final bosses of some random AC games and pretend they were hard? You could have posted Zinaida.
>>738596861How's it compare to spring chicken?
>>738591316One of the best games I have ever played in my life.
>>738591316It's my favorite game by a lot.
>>738596929Poorly. Spring chicken are the best heavy reverse joint legs.
>>738594116>>738591419>>738592696Why do people say it's like Dark Souls? I've never played any souls or Bloodborne/Sekiro, but I've seen gameplay and it's nothing like Armored Core.
>>738596948the only final bosses easier than klein are otsdarva and walter
>>738596948>>738596841What that other guy said. You could have posted zinaida, or even nineball from nexus, but you went for the low hanging fruit instead LOL
>>738596172I hope that remaster 3rd gen and 4th gen, I also need to build a cheap gaming PC too.
>>738597312Or even the last gank in old king route
>>738597161because underneath all the fancy mech parts and projectiles it's just mediocre fromsoft camera-lock dodgeslop parryslop staggerslop without the advantage of the compelling world and RPG systems of soulsbornes or the incredibly refined and mechanically-varied parry-and-prosthetics combat of sekiro
>>738597527who do you think you're impressing by behaving this way?
>>738597369Nah. I am good.
>>738597527Other games way before Dark Souls games have dodging, lock on, and stagger. Do you only play Dark Soul games?
>>738597527I forgot to add that even the first Armored Core game had dodging and stagger too. The stagger was even worse because it would stun lock you.
AC6 is average compared to generation 1
>>738591316>I'm not an Armored Core guyyou're the target audience then
>>738597679>>738597626https://youtube.com/watch?v=CLT8tF3a_QA&pp=ygUmYXJtb3JlZCBjb3JlIDIgZmluYWwgYm9zcyB0YW5rIGdyZW5hZGU%3DWow. So hard.>slowly roll forward with tank>klein just hovers around a little>barely even hurts youIs this the ultra difficult kaizo boss you struggled with?
>>738597626seraph is fine but why pick Klein, what about that guy was hard for you? generally curious, after all the shit you go through in 2 like the fucking underground lab why was klein hard for you
Can the "critics" of Armored Core 6 ever cite anything without hyperbole?
>>738597923>not even your gameplay
I never got the appeal of "big huge robots" that move like a sperg is waving their arms around holding action figures The fucking things have no weight to them. They just move side to side like theyre made of paper
>>738598007The only people who hate it are due to being filtered.
I redownloaded this last night. I hope this time it clicks
>>738598037>no sense of weightjust tell me you've never played armored core and hate the mecha genre, dude
>>738598128What was the problem last time?
>>738598128Use the hard lock (Pushing in R3). It makes movement much easier.
>>738598234this isn't universal tho, smart cleaner and route 3 endboss both punish hard lock pretty frequently
Share your ravens? Here's mine. I pretend it's just one machine and it switches to different modes, depending on the mission.
>>738598234hard lock changes how you dodge, it makes you a lot easier to hit since your left/right movements don't move you away at all, you preserve the same motionmeanwhile if you're facing a target and dodge perpendicular to it not only do you change your horizontal position you change spacing as well matters a lot more often than you'd think, and you can avoid a lot of hits by just turning it off
>>738593374No but it's not that different either, it's still got some recognizable Armored Core DNA just like DN. AC6 and DN are like the only good mech games to release since AC Verdict Day
>>738598305>Smart Cleaner and Iguana punishes you for hardlockNot for me. Which types (kinetic, energy) of weapons do you use and what is the weight of your AC.
>>738598312based immersive gamerthis guy >>738593312 is mineabsolute glass cannon but I just can't live without a boost over 370
>>738598521see >>738598431strafe circle is easily punished for heavier ACs especially, but it's mostly true for online playif you're not clicking off at least to assault boost you're gonna get hard read
>>738598431>it makes you a lot easier to hit since your left/right movements don't move you away at allHow? Do you not use quick boost or use upward thrust?
>>738598131Yeah dude being able to make pinpoint 90 degree turns and zigzag back and forth leaving a trail like a dumbass scribbling the letter s totally makes your multi-ton mech suit look like it obeys physics and has weight
Is every thread about any From game doomed to be forever plagued by From Derangement Syndrome outbursts?I'm tired of every thread being raided by the same handful of retards with an agenda.
>>738598660ew you're a realism fagyour boxy battletech turrets break square cube law and are the reason everyone clowns on mechs as impractical, your stupid things could absolutely get shot in the knees and get hobbled
>>738598735It's really bleak. The more brown people get on this site the worse it gets, and the number only increases every year.
>>738598615>Heavy weightsOK, I get it now. I rarely use heavy weights. I've only used a dual gatling and dual sneedle tanks when I first played the game. I only use light and middle weight ACs.
>>738598736The point still remains Gundams have no weight. Theres no point them being big robots if theyre just gonna move like that. Why even have legs when they dont even use them, they just rollerskate on the floor. It looks dumb
>>738594116I do miss this mechanic. It really put the focus of the game on tight maneuvering to get your target in your sights while staying out of theirs. It has this dogfight like quality to it. The sticky lock and instant turns make AC6 into something different. At close range it's almost like a fighting game where you try to execute your winning combo, and then at long range where you're manual aiming plasma cannons and shit it's almost like an arena shooter, very bizarre gameplay but it somehow ended up being very fun and unique.
>>738598976Look into OMEGAhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3392040/OMEGA_PHENEX_COMMENCED_PROJECT_SIX/
>>738598081Thats because he isnt using a head with a bio sensor. Kleins robot needs it.
>>738598898The purpose is infantry multiplication and the legs are for universality of travel and closer to 1:1 input for the pilot AND as a narrative device to further ground the characters to their machines which serve as extensions of the character. Gundams absolutely have weight, once again tell me you've never seen Gundam without telling me you've never seen Gundam, but we weren't even talking about Gundam - We were talking about Armored Core. Particularly I feel you would enjoy fifth gen - Armored Core V and Verdict Day, which relied more heavily on running, jumping climbing, and momentum. Skating mechs have been a thing since VOTOMs - Hell, since the original Starship Troopers novel, which is something Battlemech and Warhammer borrow from in excess.
>>738598976ACVI is just Pokken with robots
>>738599061I have already played the demo. It reminds me a bit of AC4 but with more flying. I also think AC4 was pretty shallow and had much to be developed (which happened in the form of For Answer) so I'm quite critical of this game but if the price is right I'll buy it and beat it, I had fun with the playtest although the levels are kind of same-y since there's literally no level design.
>>738597161It's the opposite. Dark Souls is just a more shallow AC on foot.
>>738599265what the fuck are you even trying to say at this pont
>>738591903i thought it was pretty lame how 90% of missions can be autopiloted through and also to get a letter grade you need to replay it instead of just getting it the first time around
Started this game for the first time last night. I'm not very far but it feels ok. I turned hard lock off but you still basically stick to the enemy anyway, so far at least. Not sure what mech i'm going to make, maybe some close range, lightweight menace.
>>738599256>armored core 5Huh its on the PS3. Ill see if I can track it down then and ill give it a shot
I bet all 3 routes with a light biped.I beat this game.All Mind and Ayre are my wives
I liked 5th gen's more tactical aesthetic and gameplay. I found myself actually needing to pay attention to what direction I approach enemies from, who to engage first, if I want to lead them away from backup or around corners, use the environment for cover, etc. VI is too much twitch action game and not enough mecha battle game.
>>738592653>Too easyYou must have forgot about pic related filtering so many anons. However, it is very easy once you learn all the mechanics.
>>738595393>AC6's plot was ripped wholesale from Eureka SevenWait seriously?? Sold.
>>738599404It was annoying as fuck that the mode that gives ranks is separate to the story mode. Especially since some missions are only unlocked on the third playthrough. I had fun in 4A progressing to a new mission but trying to get S ranks as much as possible.
The game is good, but the devs somehow expect you to play it three times to see all the lore. Especially given how no no-chill and anxiety-inducing it is, no way I'm playing it more than once.
>>738598334This one is actually indefensible. Cannot believe some faggot said this game has infinite depth.>>738597663Those mechanics individually are not bad, but combining them the way AC6 did made for a bad experience. Every fight in the game plays the same way, you tickle the boss with low commitment attacks until it staggers and then burst them down for massive damage. Lightweight builds get cucked because hardlock and no turn speed stat negates their biggest advantage while stagger heavily punishes them. This means everyone runs similar midweight/heavyweight builds. Look at that anon's webm ,the tracking is so good you can hit enemies that are off screen.
>>738595393>Using the sneedle tankI had to use this too my first time too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9fXajnaemY&t=46s
>>738599591I know some people cried that the tutorial level is too hard or Balteus or whatever. There are some roadblocks that require either being okay at the game or having a mech that can easily fuck them up. Still, normal enemies were generally cannon fodder. Some missions did feel very easy because they were just fights against enemies who don't pose a threat at all. It's not Animal Crossing, but it's too easy for an Armored Core game.
>>738597527>it's exactly like dark souls and sekiro, but it isnt like dark souls or sekiro at all!
>>738599691The NG+ and NG++ playthroughs are awesome, it is fun to revisit the old missions with much stronger weapons and parts + you unlock new missions, it is kino.
>>738599734you dont play games, and you did not play this game.
>>738599591Every action game thread has these people pretending to be so good that the game is easy. Half the time it turns out "they beat Balteus with gatling guns" or something to that effect.
>>738599814Trust me, I struggled with the filter chopper and Balteus too. But I, kept at it and learned the mechanics.
>>738592696What about mecha am I looking for, exactly?
>>738599815sorry, let me rephrase>it's almost like dark souls and sekiro except worse in every way
>>738599918Too be fair, I do dog walk Balteus now like it's nothing, but I've playing the game for 3 years.
>>738599827> Doing the same thing twice and then once more is kino.I respectfully disagree.
>>738599827My only problem is that there weren't enough routes. When I first played the game, I thought I could join Balem and was disappointed when you couldn't.
>>738600131>I respectfully disagreeI agree, if there were more routes it would have been perfect.
>>738591316>unknown mercenary pilot gets tangled up in a plot about the mcguffin material that starts with a C fighting multiple C-powered prototypes and beats the brakes off the best of the best while listening to "copilot"I played this before but fuck if it wasn't worth it the second time.
>>738600131You are not doing the same thing though, you have access to many more parts and can make a completely different experience out of it.
>>738600260Miyazaki said there is room for improvement, so when the next Armored Core games comes, it will have a much bigger budget after the massive success that ACVI was, so maybe we will see more dedicated route and choice options to join different factions.
>>738591316>I'm not an Armored Core guy.you're the target audience then
>>738600421I hope so
>>738591316No, it's the definition of mid. It's ok as a game under 20 bucks.
>>738597885>>738600484NPCs in the chat
nothing ever happens
I beat sekiro, and thought "let me try another FROM game" so I bought this and thoroughly enjoyed it, did all the endings
>>738601261Wrong board chud
>>738600260The warring corporations felt like shit they just included because other AC games did it. It was surprising that, with multiple routes, they didn't have one where you sided with a corp.
>>738601793That's exactly how it feels. They should have been the main focus.
>>738598312bow to your god.
>>738591687>Best in the serieslol
>>738600047whoa it's almost like it's a different type of game entirely
contra is just jumpslop with gunsmetal slug is just shootslop with tankszelda is just swordslop with itemsmetal gear is just sneakslop with a boxsekiro is just ninjaslop with a partymonster hunter is just patternslop with a catpokemon is just numberslop with mascotsshin megami tensei is just mascotslop with extra turnsbattletech is just luckslop with limb based combatace combat is just planeslop with dialognioh cave story is just jumpslop with grindingdigimon is just turnslop with visual novelnone of these "arguments" is worth responding to
Gen 3 > Gen 1 >>>> Everything else
>>738599457cheers man, every man likes his giant robots differently verdict day is a lot better than v, but v is still pretty solid, it's just a more meagre showing than verdict day
Redpill me on Rig Riot. Is it worth your time as an Armored Corefag?r
>>738602073careful posting silent line, someone will think that's white glint
>>738599458ALLMIND is not your wife
>>738599256You should laugh at retards whining about muh realism when Battletech and by extension MechWarrior are derivatives of Macross' Destroids with Macross being inspired by Gundam. You're welcome westmechfags lmao
>>738602310ALLMIND exists for all mercenaries.
>>738602069>nioh just therekek
>>738602545slut
>>738594957>Trying to shit on someone using hard lock-on AC6MPDon't.
>>738596216What do you think mossad pays them in?Also PC ports of the PStriple ACs WHEN???
>>738595956>KleinAt least mention AC1's twin nineballs, c'mon.
>>738603183>Also PC ports of the PStriple ACs WHENThere's no Armored Core 4 and 5 on PC?
>>738603183Could be an issue with AGETEC and also music licenses falling through. Pray someone from GOG takes up the task then steam will leech off of it>>7386033206 is the first game to be released natively on PC
>>738596172>Formula Front that lowI know its gimmicky compared to the rest of the franchise but it accomplishes what it sets out to do well. I would put it at least above phantasma.
>>738603420I've never notice.
>>738595874Yeah, most vidya in general has a dedicated schizo.Outer Wilds, Disco Elysium, and more recently HoMM Olden Era come to mind.
>>738603320AC5 is the one that doesn't make sense to me. Bamco was doing a bunch of steam ports at the time and Dark Souls was hitting new highs of popularity. Yet they let it die with the PS3.
>>738601952Wow, that is a sexy design anon. Mine has more white, some black and little bit of red. Black white and blue goes hard too, very nice.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4192760/GMODE_ARMORED_CORE_MOBILE_3/EXPLAIN TO ME THIS RETARDATION
>>738597527>if i use enough buzzwords, nobody will be able to articulate a coherent reply because they won't understand my post in the first placea daring strategycounterpoint: kill yourself
>>738593675>Mosta small group of discord raiders posting non-stop and samefagging may give that impression but that's just the tactic working as intended
>>738598334>uses a gamepad>Gets filtered by a standard feature of gamepadsWhy are consolefags like this?
>>738598334>Dual gatling>Dual needles>tires to make an opinion
I want to like it but a lot about the aesthetic seems goofy to meThe mechs holding giant guns in their hands instead of being attachedSome of the designs and attachments get ludicrously spindly so I can't help but think it should snap off in combat easily and looks like its a plastic toyFat tank bottoms zipping around like they're subject to Gmod physics and flying around like in >>738598334With how hard they all dart around in general it makes it feel like these giant machines actually don't have any weight
>>738605428>The mechs holding giant guns in their hands instead of being attachedWe have those, its just that for some reason, they're not present in 6, the one game they will benefit greatly with the ammo refill/checkpoint system that would supply Weapon Arm uses those precious ammos that made them almost a risk to use in the previous game.
>>738605356there's no build variety in ac6
Yes. Fast. That alone makes it better than 99% of the action games released in the last 15 years.I don't remember the last game I finished 9 times, 3 for all the endings then 3 more for the S rankings then 3 more with mods.
>>738599913Yes I do, you fucknig tourist faggot. I've played more games than you, and definitely more Armored core games than you.
>>738605757There's variety.......in single player. Lightweights are useless in multiplayer and energy weapons are shit too.
>>738605776For clarification, I absolutely loathe the other FromSoftware games.
Is it worth it on a PS4 slim?
>>738606072It runs well on the base ps4 at 30 fps. If you have the pro it runs at 60 fps.
>>738605582>He'd rather be ranked 11th than 1st as it has twice as many "1"s.kek
>>738605776I tried a few mods. It seemed most of them wanted the firing range spiked way up so you could actually use guns at a distance. I don't think any are replacements for the original game, but they do fix some problems I had with it.
>>738605943I'm s rank with lightweight in multiplayer THOUGH?
>>738606418How? I got rank B third grade and stopped playing online by using the C3 Melander with a linear rifle and hand gun.
notice how as soon as the shitposter got reported and banned the thread became a lot more fun?
>>738606281I installed the armory mod with a mod that gave more acceleration/max speed more akin to 4A. Armory had a shoulder railgun that was BUSTED but fun and a good energy rifle but it required so much energy that you could only use a coral engine so that was my build.
ACVII better have ACs that move and function like the coral AC boss. I need to pilot a Orbital Frame in the 2020s NOW
>>738605943Some of the highest DPS in multiplayer is from energy weapons and one of the best being the nebula plasma rifle, shits out damage without barely interacting with the stagger bar.
>>738606607>I need to pilot a Orbital Frame in the 2020s NOWYou could have that if you all-talk niggers actually bought ZOE instead of letting it die TWICE and getting 3 cancelled
>>738606490integrate verticality in your play style, when you hear the whine of the alerts it's really tempting to just go to the side, get a 370+ boost speed and just climb/descend while strafing like normal, or drop lock to boost forward to the sideI run laser drones, a kill confirm back weapon, and a pair of handguns that are a different rhythm - it's important to have guns with different velocity/firing rate to help mindgame people, try to fire half the magazine of one before integrating the othersave your expansion (assault armor is my preference) for if they try to come in with a lock or melee attack, it can stop ashmead mid draw if you time it rightalula best boosteralso ALSOdon't fire while you're in pre-lock, stay in your FCS's preferred range and wait for it to actually lock, there's no real audio cue so watch for the red crosshairs. if you ever see it drifting you won't hit when you firealso jump over and boost under guys it fucks with their tracking
>>738596861>Jumping forward and backward with one pair of legs>Jumping side to side with another pair of legsWhat is this webm even supposed to compare? The reason you take chicken legs is FOR the far jump forwards and back, but that isn't happening with the Nachtreiher legs?
>>738606741I know they do if you're using the right generator. But explosives and guns with melee are king in this game.>pic very related.
>>738606810>also jump over and boost under guys it fucks with their trackingI miss landing on top of mfers in the ps2 games
>>738591316Its ac for people who hate ac so yea you might like it
>>738606903But I like AC1 anon.
Stagger system was a mistakeNow every future ac game going to have this dogshit bloat of a system
>>738606508ac6shills need to get killed
>>738591316To much boss fight and normal ATs are a joke
>>738606962>Stagger is a mistakeIt's fun, it's energy weapons should be buffed or the generator's energy firearm stat should be buffed.
Stagger is stupid, it makes every fight take the same rhythm and pacing and funnels you into a narrow playstyle
>>738591316I hate it because Fromsoft is popular now
>>738606790>2010s Konami without KojimaIt was going to be shit
>>738607179Finally some honesty here
>>738606903But enough about Armored Core 4
>>738607129>funnels you into a narrow playstyleLike I said the energy weapons need to be buffed to offset the stagger.
>>738607194Kojima had nothing to do with ZOE
>>738606886samealso if you give your guns woodgrain handles they shoot 10% more accurately >pic rel, my 400 boost speed monster configuration
>>738607270I doubt that.
>>738606830The problem is BETA's jump assist is too strong and actually gives you air time. Which is NO GOOD. because then follow up boosts you don't get the jump assist until you land.Weirdly front/back, left/right doesn't impact distance.
>>738607290>also if you give your guns woodgrain handles they shoot 10% more accuratelyThat's bullshit, but I believe it
I have beaten every game since demon souls, most of them 3+ times. I didn't even pass the first boss in AC6.
>>738607363Do you know what a video game producer does? He basically vouched for Okamura to the higher ups and convinced them to greenlight it.
>>738593664This. AC6 is genuinely MASSIVELY dumbed down slop. The fact it’s getting ANY praise just proves how much this site has been compromised by BROWN trash. Let alone how fucked demographics are worldwide. Browns are a fucking horde that ruin the planet.
>>738606790ZOE2 MARS sucked ass and the PC port was even worse.Better keep it dead that allow Konami to releasing half assed ports without any kind of QA.
>>738607129There are a few fights where you're basically trying to stagger shit as quickly as possible to kill it fast enough, especially if you build specifically for stagger damage. Fights against most enemies are just shooting them until they die, and even enemies you want to stagger vary between fast, small humanoid mechs and giant scary machines. There's about as much variety as in other games, where you would generally find a decent gun and fire it at absolutely everything, only switching to a higher damage and harder to use weapon if something had a fuckload of health.
The coop mod with invasions showed me that stagger would be far less annoying if the level design especially for multiplayer were not almost all these big sprawling arena with little to no cover when the most fun in pvp with invasion was using the enviroment to your advantage to mitigate damage and stagger build up in the more building dense missions with tons of nooks and crannies. Being in an open arena when you have this kind of lock on, this kind of focus on stagger and so on is presenting these mechanics at their worst when they’re flawed to begin with. You can greatly improve AC6’s gameplay now before even needing to touch the mechanics if they changed with a more tactical approach in level design. Which in general I hope is the approach overall in whatever comes next. I want a world with extensions again and more shit like the emp smoke gun that has utility functions while also making sure they aren’t left as complete meme tier shit.
>>738591316Nah its shit. When a robot I dumped a shit-ton of ammo into got back up with a second heatlh bar and no visible damage I quit then and there.
>>738608430that doesn't happen
>>738608430>it's shit because I'm bad
>>738608430Anon did you get past the helicopter.
>>738608430When the fuck did a robot you just destroyed come back with a full health bar?
>>738609074NTA but 2nd tryHard lock on is odd to get used to as an old fag who is an oldfag to these games.
>>738593830No, but isnt it pretty to think so?
>>738609134Use the assault boost to get in close and use the sword. Here's a video to help you outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1rwqrkg_lc
>>738609124CEL does.
>>738609124Technically the Ibis Quebley thing.
>>738604412This was the era of normalfags flooding into vidya. Dark Souls was the game of that time. Its all anyone discussed online. Armored Core never stood out it was a niche game for a niche audience with an even smaller audience in the west. FROM was not know for anything but AC and a few one-off titles until DS came out and put them into the public spotlight. Even with V releasing retarded game journos kept asking if it was DS but with Mechs
>>738602147No one play this?
>>738609358>Quebleythe what now?
>>738609270Anon I ripped that chopper apart on my second try. My kid bought the game and he was hard stuck on it, he was pissed that I was able to win when I asked to give it a try. I had to break out the PS3 and show him my old AVCD stats as well as my all S rank PS2 games.
>>738591687>the best in the seriesNo one who's actually played armored core before says this6 is decent, but it undeniably watered down a ton of mechanics to make it more action gamey. less part and build diversity tooThe story was probably the best part but even then I'd say some previous titles still beat it out
>>738603320There’s like two phone game ports of games back from mid 2000’s on steam. The kicker is they released them AFTER AC6. So it’s a fucking taunt like “yeah we still are able to port shitty phone games of AC, but any of the mainline titles that would sell quite a lot relatively with the revitalized and new interest in the brand? lol”. ACV is the big head scratcher since that one and Verdict Day was published by Bamco so there shouldn’t be any license issues unlike perhaps 4A with Ubisoft and all the Agetec games.
>>738609726I read the post too quick.
>>738609662It's a mech from Gundam.
>>738595874There's an entire discord dedicated to shitting up Dragon's Dogma threads.
>Gen 1 anonsOldtards that think their games is good despite the shitty control>Gen 2 anonsIgnored and almost none existent>Gen 3 anonsMUH LORE! MY GOLDEN AGE!>Gen 4 anonsCrack Addicts>Gen 5 anonsPvPtards that think they own the series, not realized it kill it for a whole decade>Gen 6 anonsSoulfags that got baited into playing a Mecha game
>>738610051based
>>738609917It's all good
>>738610090>Gen 1 and Gen 6These are the only two that I've played, and I like them both. What does that mean?
>>738609617No, looks interesting. Played Dolls Nest though. Dark Souls exploration and encounters with AC combat
>>738591687>>738591903Are there any mods for for AC6 that makes the game harder? A rebalance of some kind?
does anyone have the large image posted on /m/ which is the bogdanoff timeline which took place before armored core 1 and goes through armored core 2?
>>738610431There's the Inferno mod.
>>738610524Thanks anon
>>738609982Oh, I have no idea about Gundam stuff, I've only played Armored Core 6 and I'm playing through AC2 and AC2AA now, how do you even get into Gundam, isn't there like a 1000 episodes and 50 sub-series of that shit? Its fucking intimidating.
>>738597161you have different builds based on weight and weapon types with certain strengths and weaknesses to each option. its very much like a souls game in this regard.
>>738610640I've only watch like 3 Gundam series. I would watch 08th MS team, it's my favorite and only has like 10 episodes.
>>738603183>>738603320>>738609842I want all the Armored Core games on Steam/Gog/Whatever someone make it happen please. I want them in a format with mouse and keyboard controls and support for modern display resolutions. Get the guys who did the System Shock 2 remaster to do it. That one was great.
>>738610650But that's every other game too anon. That doesn't make any sense.
>>738610640Most of them are kind of reboots like Final Fantasy games, so you usually just start with whichever one looks coolest. You don't have to watch any Gundam, but you also shouldn't worry that you're missing the story of one if you didn't watch 1000 episodes of Gundam before it.
>>738610948why dont you just fuckin relax guy have a beer and cigarette jesus fuckin christ
>>738599334This
>>738611229Anon, I'm not the one complaining about it looking like Dark Souls even though it's nothing a like
>>738610895Would be cool, but never happening. Just gotta emulate like the rest of usI have all my PS1/2/3 originals still, but don't want to set up a TV and break out my b/c PS3 to play them
>>738599609Its pretty obvious bro.I was kinda shocked how obvious they made it.I love Ayre.https://youtu.be/vcuYOpS9GsA?si=ZOzIvGhGqBq5wHTo
>>738607556That doesn't warrant your name being in the game's cover art.
>>738591316Mid 6/10>The Good-Movement is fluid and responsive-Rare kind of game -Good visual spectacle-Fun to fight another mecha>The Bad-Customization is very unbalanced-Too easy-The Story is retarded-Soundtrack is forgettable-Unironically too longJust a 6/10 game.
>>738611482No, it doesn't. Kangaroo Jack wasn't actually about a kangaroo named Jack either.Marketing doesn't have to make sense, it just has to sell products.
>>738608871>>738609124NTA but the most iconic boss in the game? The automated coral AC?
>>738610640There's two major timelines and a few splintersUniversal Century (UC) and Alternate Universe (AUC)The original Gundam starts with UC. The order is:0079 Mobile Suit GundamZeta GundamZZ GundamChar's CounterattackHathawayF91Victory Turn AThen there's the UC side stories which aren't relevant to the main timeline but take place in it.MSIglooWar in the Pocket8th MS team0083 Stardust MemoryUnicornG-SaviourThen there's AUC Alternate stories in the UC that don't interact with the mainline. but take place in an alternate version of the UC timeline.ThunderboltThe Origin Rise of the Red Comet/Cucuruz Doan's Island.GquuuuuxFor AU itsAfter War XWing GundamGundam 00G ReconguistaWitch From MercuryIron Blood OrphansBuild FightersSEED (AKA CE timeline)Gundam AGEMobile Fighter GThese are all one-offs you can watch without any prior knowledge on continuing characters minus SEED which you will need to watch SEED Destiny and the movies.Good luck.
>>738611654NOOOOO ITS GREATEST ARMORED CORE EVEAAAAR!!!!!!
>>738611843Filter number 4.
>>738595393the absolute state of tank players
>>738596861what if you aren't interested in spamming dodge roll?
>>738612154One thing that always annoyed me about the super weapons in AC is that we never get to use their parts after we beat them.We should at least get SOME part or weapon from them.
>>738598312
>>738611654I will give this bait a 6/10.
>>738610640You can't get around having to watch the original Mobile Suit Gundam (MSG, 0079) through Char's Counerattack (CCA, 0093) if you want to understand the main timeline Universal Century (UC), which comes in two flavors the original 43 episode TV series or the 3 compilation movies. Now the canon version is the compilation movies, that's the version later entries of the series use for continuity purposes, so if the two versions disagree on an event it'll be the movies that supersede the TV series for example Zeta Gundam will shows Hayato in a Guncannon like in the movies rather than a Guntank which he used in the TV series, but the TV series is the original and has many things the movies cut out for time, which are still considered canon, the movies touch up the roughest animation but its mostly recycled footage, like 80% of the footage is just the TV series again recut into a shorter format, as the original series was plagued with production issues and the quality was inconsistent and the movies addressed that by reanimating a few scenes, but they also alter some events for time, because its impossible to condense 43 episodes into 3 movies and get everything, so just know if you only watch the movies you'll have gaps.After that you have Zeta Gundam (Z, Zeta, 0087) which also has two formats: a TV series, this time with 50 episodes, and 3 compilation movies but those movies are a different beast, they change the ending and are more of a companion piece than a replacement, none of the subsequent series will use the Zeta movies for continuity purposes, its the TV series here which is canon here.Then you have ZZ Gundam (Double Zeta, 0088) which is just another 50 TV series, no movies to worry about here, then comes CCA which is just a single movie. After CCA you can pretty much watch the rest of the franchise without being too lost or confused.
>>738591419>dark soulsDropped. Not playing rollslop
>>738611654>Soundtrack is forgettableNigga you got shit taste.Contact with you and Rough and Decent are kino.Even the minor tracks likehttps://youtu.be/khOaWH1XvQM?si=hHevWkOyOthE9bTeAre fire.
>>738612154>Duel zim zamsAnon you're just as bad as him.
>>738610640You can start with the first one, like every other series
>>738612615I'm with him on this. It's no AC4 that's for sure.
I started this game last night. Should I bother replaying the missions for S ranks?
>>738612750You get a trophy, but that's about it. I'd just did it for fun and to use the preset builds.
>>738591316Souls games are better.Only play AC if you haven't played them.
>>738611843oh yeahbut no sign of damage is way off, this thing has less HP than first phase by a lot
>>738607549Was that on launch? With all the patches it should be easier now. Also, that's normal, the game is though to learn. Even for a veteran of the series I was surprised by the difficulty. The older games weren't difficult in this same way.
>>738607684It's the hardest game in the series.
>>738591316>I'm not an Armored Core guy. Is it good?It's better if you aren't an Armored Core guy, yeah.
>>738605943Nigger harris light weight kites and various forms of LRB builds are some of the most dominant builds in the game.
>>738612391>mfw the overed weapons in V/VD
>>738612921
>>738612615Absolute bottom of AC soundtracks. Still good, but not up to the series' standardsHere's a similar one to your pick, but better:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ctLtUlgIE&list=PLEq7ANGRTSgJu8erA0bOylZUNbEovDM6o&index=7And some choice tracks:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMNF9A2D-DU&list=PLEq7ANGRTSgJu8erA0bOylZUNbEovDM6o&index=26https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRxCgDaBvBU&list=PLEq7ANGRTSgJu8erA0bOylZUNbEovDM6o&index=25https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow_X0mXSf-Q&list=RDow_X0mXSf-Q&start_radio=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diTUPGCBobA&list=RDdiTUPGCBobA&start_radio=1
I love that half the people here rightly shit on game "journalists" for only using buzzwords and dogshit similes, but then turn right around and say "this game is dark souls but with x" or say "rollslop" unironically. Imagine how retarded you'd have to be to make an IGN journo look insightful by comparison.
>>738604582a weak port used for phones back in the day, remade for pc. could be used for modding
>>738593675Uh oh, what's this at number 7, 15, and 24?
>>738602147it felt okay. just needed to fix enemies spawning in and map quick travel. felt like hammer or other fangames but i would play again
>>738612634That gif pretty much sums up all my pre-AC6 matches against lighter enemy ACs who absolutely shred me by doing that shit.How are you supposed to deal with this scenario?
>>738612154https://youtu.be/xnGrXemDww0?t=4692Took me about an hour to beat it the first time. Fun fight.
>>738613321Jump backwards.
>>738591316>Is it good?Probably one of the best games from 2023.I'm not an Armored Core fan prior and the game pretty much made me a fan.
>>738613321boost backwards
>>738613321Back up, stoopid
>>738613439FROM just can't move past trying to recreate AALIYAH
>>738595393>it's Sekiro with mechs.>Sekiro's defining mechanic is the staggerShit someone who's never played Sekiro would think
>>738613439Same. As a stylefag, I felt spoiled by all the paint and wear options we were provided with, on top of solid gameplay. This is in the same timeline where Halo now charges you five bucks for a preset blue pallette.
>>738613546its so cool
>>738613026PURGING...PRIMARY UNIT HAS CONNECTEDSYSTEM IN JEOPARDYRECOMMENDING IMMEDIATE TERMINATION OF USE
>>738612615https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCLzxoPI0zoDoesn't even beat this
>>738613594Anon, if two things share a thing, they are the exact same thingUnless Nintendo does it
>>738613115This is how I know you're a tourist.It literally is the hardest Armored Core game. Because back then Fromsoft wasn't known for this stupid "LE EPIC HARDCORE IMPOSSIBLE GAME MAKER" and none of the other games were particularly designed to be difficult, but this one was designed with this new expectation in mind, and it shows immediately right from the first mission. They're clearly leaning on the difficulty meme as they're now expected to release difficult games.
>>738613793Harder than Last Raven?
>>738613793easiest armored core game
>>738591316Absolutely dog shit game, luckily I pirated it. It's completely braindead, you can just take 2 shotguns and instantly kill 95% of all the enemies, it's so easy it's ridiculous.
>>738613649I should boot up my PS3 again I had the blue magnolia/maggie DLC and she got lines for using them too. Can't find a video of it either.
>>738591392
>>738613793>They're clearly leaning on the difficulty meme as they're now expected to release difficult games.NTA, but I still don't really like this aspect of their newer titles.Their older games being challenging was great, but ever since DS3 it feels like they've been trying to push more towards hardcore CBT as opposed to the lighter S&M they had before.
>>738613546Rayleonard's AALIYAH is Stinger from Project Phantasma.Rusty's Nachtreiher is really just Otsdarva's LAHIRE model from From Answer desu.AC constantly updates designs from old games into the newer ones from time to time.
>>738613840I had to retry some bosses more times than I did Zinaida kek.But to be fair I exclusively used light ACs in 6. But, I mostly play light AC in gen1/2/3, too.So, maybe it's just me and if you're a tankfag AC6 get reckt, idk.
>>738613793>It literally is the hardest Armored Core game.Fucking wrong in all parts. Come back after you play the 3rd gen or AA.
>>738614054>dual zim fagyou ruined the game for yourself.
>>738613321why are you standing still?
>>738591316Zimmerman's even post patch absolutely decimate most things in this game. They are that damn good but also very fun to use.
>>7386142373rd gen is easy what do you mean? Nexus is ez, LR is hard.AA is kino but I don't remember of any terrible walls, except for Seraph obvsly
>>738613793>AC games historically filter 90% of players from being hard>UMMMM THATS FAKE DIFFICULTY AND UM JANK AND UM I'M TOTALLY NOT A SHITTER!!!!>AC6 releases and is easy as hell babymode casual shit>NOW THIS IS REAL DIFFICULTY OH MAN
>>738613546And that's a good thing.
>>738614237>AA>3rd GenJust read your mission briefingsAnd if you're talking about the special missions in 2AA I ran the add mag back part RJ legs to hop the blade wave and KARASAWA to beat Seraph. Most of 3rd gen can be beat with a tank build and the LIC Cannon with adjustments to certain missions like the train one.
>>738614519Her previous form is hotter. Bottomless is hot.
>>738614291How? I never played a mecha game in my life. I randomly grabbed two shotguns, a plasma cannon and some rocket launcher and I basically one shot everything. That's garbage game design.
>>738614810Even the bosses?
>last raven>hard
>>738613793No it's not, not when you don't have to keep your opponent in the lockbox, you just mash fire buttons while spamming quickboost.Last Raven is way harder than this garbage
>>738591316it's honestly boring. combat is just a dps race with some dodging
>>738615037I feel like the people who say that played the PSP version. Aiming with that one nub had to be brutal
>>738614971Yeah, you have those sort side ops or something, don't remember what it's called. Where you just fight bosses? I annihilated everything, it was extremely tedious because you had to wait to load in and that almost took longer than beating the bosses. I think the only time I died was against this helicopter, which was at the start, and when I got noticed by these camera drones.
>>738615037do I have to post a pic of zimmermans + needle cannon (or whatever became easy mode post patch)every AC game can be cheese'd
>>738614519>>AC games historically filter 90% of players from being hardYou see I just don't believe that shit. It sounds like it's a meme from peoples who didn't actually play the games.AC was never artificially hard, is my argument, something that AC6 absolutely is.Normies think oldgens are hard because of the controls, not because of the gamedesign itself or how the missions or bosses are designed. but only tourists wouldn't notice the games had custom controls options from the very first game and you can find a control scheme that works for yourself and your own brain. or at least that was the case for me, the controls are just fine and that's the only really difficult part to master.It's easy to fail missions due to a variety of bullshit like dropping in the water without hover legs, going out of bounds, shit like that, but from what I remember of my first playthrough of these games, it was very rare to fail missions because of straight-up running out of AP during a boss fight. And that's despite me building for cool factor and high energy (I like to fly), not AP or even really firepower.So again I'm not saying AC was completely easy, I'm saying it wasn't made to be particularly difficult ON PURPOSE (nuances, niger) which is CLEARLY what AC6 is doing with these fucking retarded bosses and the AP gauge getting artificially divided by 3 just so the devs have a chance to 2 shot you.If that's not really fucking obvious to you, you have shit for brains.
>>738615085>you just mash fire buttons while spamming bunny hopsBut enough about AC1 through LR
>>738615085Beating Old Gen was mostly done in the garage. You put together an AC that counters what the mission's asking for.AC6 has at least a bit more design to the bosses. I'll definitely take how Balteus fights over the boss from 'Destroy Massive MT' from 3.
>>738615451>copeac6 is still the easiest
>>738615037>...locking on>...locking one>...still locking on>...oh wait, youre already deadat least use the back laser canon that takes both slots
>>738615546Meanwhile in 4th gen, you touch the ground for a hundredth of a second so you can jump across the map at 4000 km/h while unloading all your weaponry.
>>738591316are you only playing because of fromsoftware?or do you like mechs in general?do you like customizing and constantly testing if the build works?do you like engines, cars, etc?
>>738615546only redditors and tourists call it "bunny hop", newfagYou still have to keep your target in the lockbox, so old games are harder
>>738615737Keeping the enemy in the lockbox was not hard outside of a few situations. And it was even easier with some FCSes and weapons like Machine Guns.
>>738615737>only redditors and tourists call it "bunny hop", newfagNigger it's been a bunnyhop since the 90s
>>738596861Nacht legs feel so good.
>>738615737You should stop this is getting embarrassing
>>738615737>only redditors and tourists call it "bunny hop", newfagLARP: ON
>>738607392You just have to time your QB when you land. Yes, you can't spam it. RJs are slower overall in exchange for being energy efficient and covering farther bounds. If you really need to you can still QB in the air just like a biped anyway, it is a QB itself that fucks up their targeting reticle so it will still dodge things.
I love how relentlessly everyone is politely shitting on the shitposters
>>738615886they look the coolest anyway. They will stay on until Rubicon burns
>>738612451Very nice touch
>>738615737>newfags getting mad at you for being correct
>>738615626You must not have bought the game day one
>>738615737>touristi miss Chatty
>>738615886>>738616059why would anyone use the nachts over the firmezas?cool factor and thats it?
>>738616193>Nachts over firemzasBetter defense, much better jump, and better quick boost.
>>738616098>Launch BalteusThey really shouldn't have nerfed him as hard as they did.
>>738615859>>738615910>>738616007>>738616091>>738616101:^)
>>738616304The problem is that most people, including me, didn't really know what they were doing. I had to use a machine gun and laser cannon tank to beat him.
>>738616395Newfagbros....
>>738616424That is one of the main point in the series, you need different load out for different situation.
>>738615660I used the laser cannon too if the mission was just a boss fight.the missiles are great cause the moment you lock on the fight is over. it makes the enemy AI freak out and go 100% on the defensive (most of the time the missiles will still hit anyways)back miniguns to clean up the level fodder and arm missiles for the AC fight at the end.
>>738616547>Load out for different situationsNot in AC6 or the first one. Once I understood the mechanics and stats, I could beat an entire campaign run with one build.Expect for the Escort Strider mission
>>738616395GameFAQs forums were purged of everything prior to 2008 and Geocities being nuked removed most record of the internet from pre web2.0, of course Jewgle isn't going to turn anything up.Newnigger
>>738616742nice cope
>>738616910>ummmm the AI said no so it must be no!Zoomzoom
>>738616742>>738616395>You can't find AC1 bunny hoppingLol, Lmao
>>738616742must be a conspiracy, fucking jews
Michigan... died of a bad fall.
yep, I think this is the best Armored Core so far. those who complain about "not enough" customization parts probably don't even know the difference between grenade launchers and bazookas. every part is unique and has its place, unlike in the previous games>b-but this meme part is straight up worse than all othersdon't care. also the paint designer is umazing
>>738616395It was a common term.
>>738617178he was a lot tougher when he still had his shield
>>738617250>difference between grenade launchers and bazookas.elaborate
>>738617369bazookas have proximity detonation and grenade launchers explode on contact
>>738617369Not himBazooka have proximity fuses and move much faster. They some times deal more damage and impact.Grenade launchers have a much high splash effect.
>>738617286not for the ac community
>>738617286>to continually jump up and down in fps to avoid attacksZoomer scrub retards made these entries. It was a very specific term for instantly buffering jump on landing so that no ground friction kicked in when playing Quake engine games circa 1996, every later use of the phrase to talk about randomly jumping around for no reason came from people hearing the phrase used re:Quake but not understanding what it meant
I'm playing for the first time. Why do people say it's like Sekiro? Should I be using a shield?
>>738617529>>738617535make sense. t hanks
>>738617151A lot of old community forums and message boards fell off the face of the earth with no records or backups on them anymore. Google also purposefully directs you to sites only they want in their engine. Its been bad for a while.
>>738617651>Why do people say it's like SekiroBecause of the stagger>Should I use a shieldno. Never ever use a shield.
>>738617779Got it, thanks.
>>738591316give me more mega structure kino like ac6
>>738617250Nah I'm still going to complain. We could have had Sniper rifles and Weapon arms. Part tuning would have been nice too.
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>>738617873AC6 is missing a lot. I still love it though.
>>738594501Incorrect. With /v/ it's >le popular so i le hate it because i am le contrarian xDDDor>le niche so i le love it because i am le contrarian xDD
>>738617865I want more forests.
>me armoring my cores
>>738595307Why are you a wigger?
>>738617640And that's why it was used for Armored Core as well. Its the term for using the boosters timed just right to keep you from a "hard" landing and being able to boost right back into the air and maintain your EN. It's the same mechanic.
>>738617873>TFW no SAMURAI2 armsWith how much they improved melee weapons imagine how much ass these would have kicked.
>>738599734It's one of the only games where Aim-assist is actually immersive and makes sense in-universe. The question is whether it's trivializing gameplay, and the answer is generally no because you can be doing other things while aim-assist handles tracking for you. If you think the aim-assist makes the game too easy, then that's a different question. "Indefensible" is an overstatement
>>738618196In VD I ran the Phys Blade arms because of the trick to get more damage out of them using falling speed. Good times in Co-op as well were I could one shot enemy ACs for noobs
>>738618004>forest inside the Layered megastructureKINO
>>738617865I like the environments to be Human sized, because it makes the giant robots look like giant robots. The megastructures just make me feel like I'm playing fucking Tokobot or something
>>738618473There's still places in the megastructures that look like they're designed for humans. Smaller walkways and doors.
>>738618575Not enough, you have to stop and really look to find those. I want the entire background to remind me I am inside a 15 meter metal monstrosity.
>>738614237that sneaking past the spotlight mission was bs. the jungle mission was fun with a rifle
>>738618428I really love how these games incorporated stuff like that. I remember learning I could make my shots faster in LR by boosting forward at the time of shooting and being amazed by it.
>>738612586The compilation movies have trash for character and plot development, too. Not even because they're condensed. They just straight up retcon stuff that the TV show did better.
>>738591316Not really, no, but compared to past AC games its not terrible either. The most annoying thing about it is getting pigeon holed into builds to progress through certain areas so if you want to just meme as a guntank covered in vulcan cannons you'll have a very bad time.
>>738619413Tomino hated the TV show because Clover bastardized his work to make it a toy commercial. The movies are closer to what he wanted but Bandai was not giving him the budget for a new run. Meanwhile Macross got DYRL and its one of the most beautiful OVAs of its era while not butchering the plot of the TV show. Punished Tomino needed to get the fuck away from Bandai
>>738612586There's no "canon" in Gundam, just Official. The TV series and movies are both Official in that both are considered valid at the same time, even when contradicted. "Official" is what you can expect to appear in other media and later works, and is not dependent on some set-in-stone timeline of events, simply by what Sunrise has acknowledged on screen.
>>738619627I really don't care what Tomino considered good, or bad in this regard. The movies did not tell the story as well as the TV show did.DYRL was nice, but ultimately an in-universe fanon movie.
>>738591316no that's an Armored Core game
>>738619809You can look at a lot of Tominos work and realize Bandai just kept Fucking him over. Its why Ideon is better than a lot of his Gundam shows
>>738620875Yes yes yes, I know these things. I'm not changing my opinion based upon that. The TV show was superior in terms of plot and character development.
>>738620875I've seen most of Gundam and am halfway through Ideon. You must be a retarded chud to think Ideon is better than almost any gundam especially 79
On second thought, after reading this >>738623186, I think >>738620875 might be onto something.
>>738619627>Punished Tomino needed to get the fuck away from BandaiThey basically gave him complete creative freedom over Zeta, its funny because when you read the Zeta novels he has a postscript on each volume and in the first volume dude is like "THIS IS THE REAL ZETA, THAT SHIT ON TV IS FAKE" then like 3 volumes in its almost a literal 1:1 clone of the TV series and he's like "Yeah sorry about these novels not being very different from what on TV, turns out my producers didn't hold me back like they did before so I was able to make what I wanted with the TV series this time, again I apologize for it basically just being the TV series again if you were expecting something different."
>>738625890Tomino really is the Japanese George Lucas. In that the only time he makes really good kino is when he's being tard wrangled.
>>738626093>f91>Victory>G-reconguistaAll of these were because of tard wrangling by bandai
>>738626162I didn't say he made nothing but bangers while being tard wrangled, you mong.
>>738626242>In that the only time he makes really good kino is when he's being tard wrangled.>the only timeYou literally did
>>738626334Incorrect. Learn how to read.I said he can only create kino when he's being tard wrangled, meaning when not being tard wrangled he incapable of creating kino.I did not say he creates only kino when being tard wrangled. It's the position of the word 'only' that offers all the contest you need.Remember; context clues! :D
inb4 you start screaming about my typos and calling me a street shitter/ESL so you can abandon the argument
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>>738598976>It really put the focus of the game on tight maneuvering to get your target in your sights while staying out of theirsThat's exactly how the sticky lock systems work in AC6, what the fuck are you on about?
>>738598976>while staying out of theirs.The problem is that rarely ever worked that way. Enemies broke this rule ALL THE TIME and would perfectly track you no matter what maneuver you did and know exactly how to stay away from the center of your aiming.
>>738591316AC6 was so fun I started playing the old onesI think anyone bitching about AC6 doesn't play video games, it's interesting to see the evolution in 6 and it was a very fun experienceI've been emulating retro from time to time since the 2000s and I have never heard of Armored Core before 6 somehow, hopefully they revive this series because it's pretty cool
>>738630391There are definitely some purists that I can understand being turned off by a lot of parts of AC6 but you also have to consider that will be a minority of a minority of the audience of AC6 in a modern context.
>>738630513As a series vet the only thing I really dislike about AC6 is the ACS overload and the bonus damage from that. The only real way to lock down enemy ACs and actually secure kills is to get the stagger. It's just too over centralizing and kind of punishes anyone who uses low build up weapons like Laser weapons.
>>738630798>series vetplease stop pretending you've been playing this game for 25 years you're just a frombabby who only knows about this from elden ring
>>738630798>didn't mention turn speedSuspicious.
>>738613546to me the base Loader and Steel Haze are both the best parts of different aspects of Aaliyah, split up into two different mechs.
>>738630973Why would I? The game is designed around not having it. They wanted a faster game. Imagine trying to keep track of Ibis with a turn speed. There's a reason why most of the bosses of oldgen games didn't move around a lot for the most part.
>>738630798>low build up weapons like Laser weapons.huh?
>>738630798I have no idea how you shitters come to the conclusion that energy weapons are weak when>LCA triple laser cannon>LCD laser shotgun cannon>LCS default laser canon>LRB overpowered piece of shit>NEBULA unavoidable bullshit>FASAN the real sniper canonall exist and are extremely potent
I wanted more 1vX fights like protect the drill walker mission and operation wallclimber Most of mission felt like boss rush here
>>738631604stop embarrassing yourself take the L and leave. you don't have to justify your shitty taste.
So which game should I start with? Release order? I had a friend trying to push me to start with 6 but I'm a bit wary because that was his first one.
>>738631604Dude, your quick turns?
>>738631695Friendly reminder that the basic laser rifle has the same stagger as the curtis linear rifle, whilst receiving energy weapon bonuses and having a longer effective range.
>>738591316>I'm not an Armored Core guy.Why not?
>>738632518Release order is quite nice, actually. The original Armored Core isn't that hard, and plenty of ways exist to make it even easier.
>>738591316>thinking about buying it (love mech shit)>see pic relatedI-it's getting a switch 2 port right?
>>738632518Silent line is the bestThen last raven 4 vanilla was boring but worth it for 4a
>>738632659Person who played released order here, if you’re using an emulator it’s possible to make it so that moving your camera and moving your mech can be keybinded to two seperate joysticks instead of being stuck together. I did this and it was so much better to play
>>738632518Yes.>b-b-but muh controlsJust rebind the fucking face buttons to camera, dpad to move/strafe, and remaining controls to triggers. Armored Core is the only series on a home console I have ever played that lets you rebind every button individually. Do not listen to anyone who complains about the controls or tells you to skip to Nexus to use analog sticks.>b-b-but I heard [x game] was the best and to just skip the restSometimes there is a game that stands out as exceptional, but I argue that the AC games are best experienced as entire generations of games. You don't get to appreciate the gameplay changes and differences in game design between each game, some of which get very drastic in the 3rd gen. Many of them even let you carry over save data so it's still worth it to play the ones that aren't as notable to carry over parts that you can't get otherwise.
>>738597527I don't understand why your post gets everyone's jimmies rustled. Its a fromsoft game, ergo, they have some similar design philosophies. Is it really all that hard to believe that some group of artists has a certain way about how they develop, polish, and present their final products? Armored Core has similarities to Dark Souls in spirit but not necessarily with execution. They are like 3rd cousins, not siblings.
>>738632617yeah but the laser boxer pairs perfect with quad-legs because you're not anchored when firing the full charge>drift in using hover mode>sting with one hand>sting with the other>both shoulder cannons at once while staggeredit's free. the only drawback is that you're made of foil.
>>738632646Sorry Sanae, but AC6 has a designated waifu character, now. Her own mecha, her own story arc, everything.
>>738631237that's a good trick
>>738628114I love how useless allmind is>accidentally gives the same serial number to two weapons>pie chart that doesn't add up to 100>immediately overtaken by iguazu >the various ways you can surprise herAllmind is gap moe
>>738591419>It's just>*goes on to say something that it isnt*classic
>>738635643he's right retard, maxiboost on feels the exact same way with the hard lock on and infinite turn ratesif you want another example this shit is just that one dragonball arena fighter which I forgot the title of
>>738632518Don't listen to this faggot >>7386331323 is your best bet. Picrel is the first actually good AC game but it'd probably be a pain to play first.
>>738633132>some of which get very drastic in the 3rd genMan, I remember just giving up on energy weapons when they made cooling down an overheated mech take up all your energy and basically turn you into a sitting duck
>>738591316Yeah, it's fucking kino
