I'm not really all that surprised that Skyward Swords getting the "It wasn't that bad/people didn't understand it" treatment.
no one is saying this.
>>738598956People try to push things they are nostalgic for as being unironically good without realising they are manipulating themselves
>>738598956All games get that on a long enough time line, because there are always some people who enjoyed the game, tie their identity and self-worth to the games they enjoy, and therefore can't admit to the product's faults and must insist it is just a misunderstood masterpiece. After all, if the game is not a masterpiece, then that means they must not be a sophisticated and superior individual, because sophisticated and superior individuals could not possibly enjoy something less than superior.You'll see the exact pattern with FF8, DS2, RE:CV, etc. In a couple years we will see defenders and apologists of RE3R, Forspoken, Dustborn, and even Concord without a hint of irony.Hell, I am sure we can even find some people who defend and argue with all the mental gymnastics possible that Atari's ET is a misunderstood masterpiece and everyone who dislikes it is a hater who got their opinion from someone else without ever even laying eyes upon its actual glory.It's all just fragile egos seeking validation that they aren't lesser people for liking something that is generally disliked for good reason.
>>738598956This game showed that the zelda formula was outdated, so they made breath of the wild, (ubisoft style game) which is by far the most successful zelda of all time (both game wise and princess wise)
>>738598956I never HATED it, but it is the weakest 3D Zelda.Still, a 7/10 being the lowest is not that bad.
Probably because the same thing happens with every mediocre game that happens to belong to a popular IP. Resident Evil 6? Wrath of Cortex? Fallout 3? Dark Souls 2? Any of that ring a bell?You're just recognizing patterns.
I went trough the tutorials, killed some enemies in a cave and wrestled with the shitty bird controls to move the plot forward, is there anything to look forward to after this.
>>738600274no, drop it and keep complaining about video games on 4chan
re-releasing the game with functional controls did a lot for the game's reputation
>>738600274this >>738600446 but unironically
>>738600274good temples and bosses
>>738600274Depends on if you're a depressed old faggot
>wind waker has 10 hours of fluff nothing fetchquesting>twilight princess has filler spam a button dog sections and look for orbs and explore every nook and cranny before you can actually go through the areas normally and do things>skyward sword has ten minutes of impriso-NOOO! NOOO! THIS IS MY BREAKING POINT! TURN ZELDA INTO A UBISLOP FRANCHISE IMMEDIATELY! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE, THE ZELDA FORMULA HAS FAILED!
>>73860027410 hours of enjoyable content with 25 hours of padding around it
>>738600993all three of them were just the long march to the death of the franchisebreath of the wild was the ozempic it needed
>>738599857>weakest 3D ZeldaYou mean spirit tracks?
>>738598956Zelda especially gets a lot of this, probably from kids who grew up with a game becoming adults. Skyward Sword is uniquely because Breath of the Wild is so bad, it makes Skyward Sword look good by comparison. It isn't good, but if their next game looked like it was trying to be Skyward Sword 2, that would be an improvement.
>>738598956>things that aren't happening for $1000
>>738602192pretty much thisBreath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom lowered the floor, so Skyward Sword went up in people's minds
>>738598956Skyward sword was objectively a good zelda game but the main issue is that Zelda Games are formulaic as all hell and it was getting really fucking boring to hit the Boss in the Eyeball 3 times to unlock the boomerang every 5-6 years
>>738598956>Anon hears voices in his head againNobody is saying this about SS because it is rightfully a 6/10 not hated but generally forgotten and worse than it's predecessor in everything except maybe tone and atmosphere
>>738599356I fell for it with TWW>wahhh everyone hates it's graphics but it's actually the best zeldaBut cute graphics is all it has, the rest is pure garbageI think the same is happening here but with wagglan'
>>738598956Happens with ever bad game. Metroid Other M and Sonic 2006 have dedicate defenders desperately claiming they're ignored masterpieces.
>>738598956If you have ubishit Zelda and mousou Zelda suddenly skyward sword, somewhat og Zelda, doesn't seem so bad.
>>738603737Oh, so it's BOTW derangement syndromeAs always
>>738598956>carries your game
>>738598956It's quite good
>>738599857It also led to the Outer Wilds.
SS took the trend of hand holding zelda to new lows. The ending trying to get you emotional about the literal soulless robot that ruined the whole game felt plain insulting. The music was pretty nice.The complete change of direction with botw it's one of the best things Nintendo ever did.
>>738598956It was worse than TP but not bad on a 1st playthrough. The combat gameplay is the best in the series but the overworld brings it down heavily. Only good dungeon was Ancient Cistern
>>738604956Not saying much, considering TP is the best.
>>738598956Because most of the bad things with the game had to do with the fuckawful control scheme and Fi's unwanted 'assistance'. The HD port added in proper stick controls and reined in Fi considerably, so those complaints were assuaged.
>>738603543Theres a big difference between Sonic 06 and Other M.
>>738601812Is Link Between Worlds a 3d game? It's also got 3d models. So does the Link's Awakening Remake, and Echoes of Wisdom.
>>738605205Aside from being from different companies, they're both equal. Equally shit.
Unrelated to Skyward Sword but I’m in Tears of the Kingdom (old screenshot as it’s complicated to transfer from the Switch) and I pretty much unlocked all towers so I was thinking of proceding with fixing the four species’ zones.I’m at the Goron’s, not getting burned alive for breathing and they note the heat decreased so sales have been poor but I know I’ll need anti-fire gear soon.Thing is: I’m poor as fuck.I have a bunch of rare gems like opals, diamonds and ambers though.My question is: can I sell them or will I brick myself because something later down the line will need them?
>>738598956Best game in the series. Played it on my brothers switch when I borrowed it. I had lots of fun and thought the art direction was interesting
Me either. A lot of it was overblown normies hoping from Skyrim onto Zelda expecting it to be Skyrim, then shitting up the room and the rest of the series with their expectations when Aonuma looked into it.
What’s even there to hate about skyward sword?
>>738601731This but unironically. I genuinely can't see how people like WW and TP. SS at least has good dungeons and music.
>>738606465Selling gems is the primary way you make money in BotW/TotK, yeah. They're otherwise used for late upgrades to gear or for making stupidly strong elemental arrows, so if you don't have a use for those two start cashing them in.
>>738606796Thanks
>>738600446this but only half unironically ;^)
>>738606465My general rule of thumb is unless you KNOW that an item is meant to have no use in the game, you should only sell half of each of your stacks. If you still don't have enough after that, sell half again, down to one. Only sell the last one if you still can't get there.Works in every game.
>>738598956SS is still the worst Zelda game.
>>738606905No prob. You've probably noticed already, but as you progress through the game enemies will start to get replaced by tougher variants. Silver and gold enemies always drop gems, so if you can kill them quickly (backstabs, drowning, contraptions, damage stacking, etc) it can be worth it.
>>738607015Understood will do that
>>738598956The worst part was the shitty controls. I played the switch version and it was a lot better. I like it more than the Ubisoft Zeldas.
>>738598956Skyward Sword was always good. Only faggo zoomers thought it was bad. It turns out when you grow up eating shit, you develop shit taste. Many such cases.
This board doesn't like videogames at all so their opinions are worthless
>>738606673>Waggle controls means Link may not swing in the direction you want, especially if you don't have a Wii Motion Plus (TM) controller/attachment>Fi constantly re-tells you things you just heard and solves puzzles for you>Every time you boot up the game you're forced to go through the descriptions for materials the first time you pick each one up>You can't skip cutscenes, even on Hero Mode playthroughs (which require you to beat the game to unlock)>The sky is largely empty with not much to do up there>There's only a few areas that you have to constantly revisit instead of go to new ones>Zelda is kind of a manipulative dickhead the entire game>Demise being introduced as the origin for Ganondorf's hatred removes the agency of the King of Evil, turning him into just a reincarnation of another guy, which is lame>Silent Realms are stealth segments, not to everyone's cup of tea>Underwater controls are fucking annoying and there's an area of the game that makes extensive use of it>You have to fight the Imprisoned three times>Faron is a huge asshole to you for no reasonI think that's the gist of it?
>>738607065Oh that’s good to know. I’ll have less worried about in BOTW I spent them recklessly and then they said Mipha’s Trident could be repaired. They didn’t say it costed gems.Never used that again after repairing it
>>738598956Skyward Sword has a shitton of problems but it still feels like a Zelda game, whereas BotW and TotK feel like a new "modernized" IP inspired by Ubisoft and Bethesda games.
>>738601812Spirit Tracks would be a great game if not for the train. All the on foot sections are solid. Well, the flute is kinda annoying because it's poorly explained.
the only good parts of skyward sword are>groose>the scrapped twilight princess temple>the shop girl thirsty for links dick>impa's design
>>738598956Aside from the toe monster and the flying, I really liked it. Motion controls were cool.
>>738605205Not really, they're both black marks on their franchises. Albeit gameplay-wise Sonic 06 had mostly good intentions with a very rushed execution, whereas Other M had bad intentions with a mostly polished execution. Both had dogshit stories.
>>738606673QoL aside, biggest issue I have with SS is the amount of recycling. In particular the third act is a bunch of filler ending with a final dungeon that's a hodgepodge of recycled assets. Though BotW's and especially TotK's filler are off the charts.
>>738608264>exaggerated comment about good things>insisting the only good things are superficial dumbass shit
>>738607909>especially if you don't have a Wii Motion Plus (TM) controller/attachmentI almost called you a retard until I glanced at that last line that implied you literally didn't know and were just repeating info. The game REQUIRES you to have the motion plus. It physically will not let you play if you don't.
>>738608814>implying implications
>>738599372They just want to have their Majora's Mask moment.
>>738598956I always liked it.
>>738600274Unironically has some of the best dungeons in the series and best bosses (although Zelda typically has underwhelming bosses so that isn't saying much).
>>738610067It's sad how Fujbayashi went from ludo dungeons in the Oracle games and SS, to the lame BotW/TotK dungeons. Either he lost his touch or Aonuma tied his hands.
>>738598956Was it a fetish monster? >tries to eat you>tries to step on you
>>738608890It's more like that it's been so long since the original release that I just plain forgot. The game came bundled with a gold Wiimore that had Wiimotion Plus built in, so there really wasn't much of an excuse. But those are the complaints I've seen over the years.
>>738598956people will meme about the zelda cycle and nostalgia and whatever else, but thats just memery and bullshit to hide that in fact things can get worse multiple times in a row and people prefer the previous less bad thing.no one will say skyward sword is better than oot, mm, ww, or tp. it has flaws and issues. but its also better than the travesty that botw has wrought onto the franchise.skyward sword isnt the best, but its better than botw and i will die on that hill
It's probably the last actual Zelda game for people who don't like the botw formula. I should finally play it sometime.
>>738598956I never understood the hate for Skyward Sword because people always complained about all the things I loved about it.The ACTUAL problem with Skyward sword is how much filler there is. You have to do the sacred realm a bajillion times, 3 different imprisoned fights, there's so much backtracking and it feels like unnecessary padding. But man, the highs are so high. Best dungeons in the series, I especially like the Ancient Cistern, Koloktos is maybe my favorite Zelda boss.
>>738606465You should mark Talus locations, they drop gems and respawn after a blood moon so they're a good renewable source of money
all zelda really needed was a bit more challenge in both combat and puzzlesyo be fair botw gave that, but it threw out the baby with the bath water
>>738611748The hatred comes from people wanting to feel the same experience from when they were 5 and played their favorite and wanting a game for literal children to grow up with them. The game does admittedly over explain things and has its issues but it was for low mobility 8 year olds first so the motion controls had to be simple given the specs of the wiimote and the primary audience. It does over explain small things to a degree but Zelda is for 8 year olds. Same people cried about the combat or the puzzles in BOTW and the shitty building mechanics in TOTK. They're for 8 year olds dude.
>>738610246No, but its very pure as a monster. This is not malice, that is just destruction made manifest, with all that it entails.
>>738611748I recently played through it, my only gripes were having an imprisoned fight back to back within 40 minutes, that felt too soon, and also the part where you're using water to put out the fire at the entrance of the fire sanctuary, it's so arbitrary to have to run back to the waterfall twice, then travel all the way to faron and ask to borrow the water dragon's bathtub.One part of the game entails you retrieving a cauldron of pumpkin soup to deliver to the isle of storm's guardian. Huge missed opportunity not to just allow the player to borrow that cauldron instead of the other one.
I didn't play it but if it used the wiimote to look during regular movement it would probably have been a great game.
>>738613220>One part of the game entails you retrieving a cauldron of pumpkin soup to deliver to the isle of storm's guardian. Huge missed opportunity not to just allow the player to borrow that cauldron instead of the other one.Wasn't that soup delivered inside the husk of a massive pumpkin? I gathered it was eaten alongside the soup, so you can't exactly reuse it.
>>738598956It has the best Zelda/Link relationship of the series but the game is held back by its linearity, awkward controls on the original, and I feel like a lack of innovation. It makes sense to me that BotW came out after Skyward Sword, because SS kind of feels like "Jesus, this needs to change."
>>738613468I didn't think it was an actual pumpkin, but even if it were just put water in it and let me fly it over to Elden instead of isle of storms.
SS would be like an 8/10 zelda game standing with wind waker if it didn't have a bunch of retarded shit bogging it down. I don't care if its linear and shit but having Fi yapping about every single fucking thing like the annoying bitch she is made it one of the worst zelda games.
>>738613661I think Spirit Tracks had a great Link/Zelda Dynamic since Zelda is your fairy companion in that game. She could even help solve puzzles in the main dungeon.
>>738612609Oh shit really? Thanks!I have no second thoughts now! Time to buy armor!
>>738613661>>738614189I second Spirit Tracks. I liked the connection of Zelda and Link in Skyward Sword but Spirit Tracks has one of the best Zeldas period
>>738598956this game is fucking horrendously bad.
they were already doing this with sonic unleashed and star fox assault
>>738611748>don't understand the hate>lists what people hate about it
>>738605286But anon, Link between Worlds is clearly not the weakest 3D game :^)>LA remakeobviously remakes don't count>Echoes of wisdomI'll tell you when I play it, but from what I've seen and heard, it's probably better than Spirit Tracks
