is halo even a franchise that should've continued after the trilogy?halo 3 had the perfect ending, all the bad guys are gone and the good guys can resthalo was so good because of its perfect simplicity, the moment bungie tried to add more features like with reach everyone hated it. How could you even build more upon the formula before it's no longer halo?
>>738601167More prequelsSome sort of dogfighting game
>>738601167Master chief’s story should have been finished with Halo 3. He should have died. That is Bungie’s main mistake. It’s small but it let M$ having its way with your main character was a critical error. M$ wouldn’t have done anything else. They have to ruin a good thing. If he was dead they would have branched off in any and all directions. There was plenty of room for spinoffs of any genre. But here we are now we may only hope Microsoft gives up and lets it die after the 6th consecutive flop in 16 years
>>738602289>That is Bungie’s main mistake.Don't blame it on Bungie. The higher ups actually wanted to kill him off, and they way the ending plays out is effectively meant to be his death, but Microsoft wanted him alive so they could milk the Halo brand for sequels.
>>738601167They didn't have to push the main story anymore after 3, they should have kept making spin-off games like reach and ODST
>>738601167Everyone loved Reach. The Halo lore is pretty expansive, the War lasted for like 30 years and ALL the games from Bungie take place within the last 4 months of that war. There was all sorts of protentional for prequels and different game types.
>>738605224>Everyone loved ReachHalo Reach was shitThe Fall of Reach was kino
>>738605446Halo Reach was a smash hit with both fans and critics and had a lot of players. Youre the outlier by saying you didnt like it
>>738605538sure, no one complained about sprint, armor lock or bloomit sold a lot so it must be a great game, like pokemon
>>738605917>handfull of autistic freaks bitching about sprint means Reach sucked cope more incel
>>738605538Halo Reach was the most divisive title in the series up to that point. You must not have been there when it launched.
>>738601167>is halo even a franchise that should've continued after the trilogy?It shouldn't have continued after the first game.>halo was so good because of its perfect simplicity, the moment bungie tried to add more features like with reach everyone hated it. How could you even build more upon the formula before it's no longer halo?They should have hard rebooted the damn thing. Their target audience wasn't one that was ever going to last.
>>738605538It was great single player but in pvp the abilities were catastrophicly badly designed
Chief's story should have ended in 3, but the franchise has (had?) a ton of potential given the breadth of it's universe343i made a mistake in re-focusing the series on Chief with 4 instead of branching out with the setting and different characters, and especially in their current approach of constantly having a new big bad galaxy scale threat that gets dealt with every few years just for a new one to pop up, instead of taking a 40k approach where you have multiple competing factions that stick around with small and medium scale conflicts and situational alliances between them
>>738601167>>738602289They could have ended the chiefs story at 3, and since corporations NEED to rape the corpses of franchises they could have just done infinite amounts of spinoffs in the halo world.Should have done a trilogy where you play as the covenant mowing down humans and conquering worlds as a sort of reverse halo trilogy, and a spinoff where its just a battlefield game but in the halo world
>>738607040yeah anon is a fag, reach divided the fanbase and it honestly felt like some bullshit troll move by bungie out of spite. single player was fun that's it.
>>738605538>>738605917Both things can be true. Halo Reach was heavily criticized at the time, and rightfully so, but it was also fantastic and very well received in spite of its flaws.Armor abilities and bloom sucked, but they didn't ruin the multiplayer. Forge was greatly improved over Halo 3, firefight was improved from ODST, and custom games were still very fun.
>>738601167It was supposed to end yeah. But money forces shit to just keep going. What they could have done would be side stories of other things that happened during the war like ODST. Dunno if it would be the best idea but basically a remake of the story but set in an alternate universe like how Gundam does it or like how Final Fantasy just makes a new universe on the fly, where it's a halo game in name similar to CE, but the individual characters are different, the factions might be different, alternate universe flood might be different etc. I have been wondering when the West would figure that out that basically "if Bungie copied themselves and thought of a new way to tell the same story what would it be." Although that is a moot point now because I doubt 343 could come up with that and actually redo the entire universe where you are still a spartan but the individual specs and capabilities are different, every weapon is different, there are enemies very much like grunts and elites etc but nothing is quite like we knew it. But the West doesn't really do this kind of thing.
>>738601167To be fully honest with you as a former huge fan of the franchise, yes I think it could have continued on after 3 but definitely not anywhere near the way 343i did it. Not even how Bungie did it tbqh. I think Reach should have been split actually into maybe 2 games or possibly even a trilogy. After that they could have then expanded on the series taking place some time after 3's events but with an all new protagonist. Chief should have just stayed in space drifting as this almost mythological war hero that some even questioned if he ever even truly existed or how much of his legacy was just exaggerated. Also for the new trilogy just like with Reach I'd have had it that you create your own protagonist using the armors of course. This was such a fantastic idea in Reach only for them to just drop it in favor of bringing Chief back but even worse than that trying to force that nig nog protagonist nobody wanted. So that is how I would have handled it. A lot of the shit also such as Forerunner's being aliens among plenty of other shit would be scrapped entirely if I were in charge. Halo went from being such a fun sci-fi world to a very boring typical and predictable one with forced faggotry and race acceptance shoved down our throats. Typical Microsoft
>>738610069Halo's problem is its gameplay, Campaign Evolved is a shining example of what's wrong with this series. It doesn't matter if you put Halo on PC or other console, it doesn't matter if you shove sprint in the game, the problem is that Doom (2016) killed this franchise. This industry no longer needs Halo, it's evolved beyond it. Halo needs to be vaulted or have a complete gameplay change. It also needs to drop the story slop for gameplay. Halo isn't a real video game. Microsoft doesn't understand video games, but that's expected for a company only good for making workstations.
>>738601167>is halo even a franchise that should've continued after the trilogy?No, the story was over and there was no reason to continue it.
I was going to make a thread but since you already made one I can just post it here. The Halo fans that still exist (which is not many) keep on hoping for this series to return to its roots. To have features like splitscreen, system link, etc. These guys are coping very hard. Those days are never coming back because they just cannot come back. LAN was popular during a time when Halo was at its peak of popularity and when people were still socializing with actual irl friends. Not doing it exclusively online through social media for clout. Halo as this popular series is kind of like a time capsule in a sense to a time when the world as a whole was very different. So its not even just that Halo got ruined. Its the time themselves that would never allow for such a return for this series. Not to mention its too slow paced for the ADD addicted gamers of today and was too feature rich for the money grubbing ways of a company like Microsoft. The would rather milk you for all your money by charging you skins, armors, even xp points and shit like that.Basically Halo is dead and should be buried.
>>738611872I don't think the Doom reboot and Halo share a lot of their appeal in either gameplay and certainly not visual design
>>738612169Yup, this is the conclusion I came to. Halo existed for the culture of that time. The problem is, gameplay-focused came back and now Halo just looks dated compared to not only games of today, but games that came before it. Gameplay always wins. It's to return to such a story-focused, linear, controls limited video game. People just miss the friends they made along the way, they don't miss Halo.
>>738612212Exactly, when Doom shitted the bed with the Dark Ages, I still like it more than Halo. I've come to realize that I just don't like how Halo plays and that it doesn't have that video game feel to it.
>>738612169Your analysis is almost totally wrong, but your conclusion is correct: Halo needs to rest in peace.
>>738612392*hard
>>738605224Reach is often cited as the game that killed the franchise. The gameplay changes split the community and drove off most of the fan base that had been with the franchise since the start and this ultimately doomed the franchise to being 2nd rate as 343 doubled and trippled down on the losing reach formula.Literally everything people hate about modern halo started in reach.
>>738605224>Everyone loved ReachThat's the moment the series stopped being Halo and became just another COD clone.The worst part is that Reach became the blueprint for all the 343slop.
>>738612392Yeah this is pretty much spot on. Halo was a very socially popular video game series at a very key important time to the industry. Online gaming for consoles was still quite new and Halo as a console FPS was so easy to grasp that even 7 year old children could understand it. Not so coincidentally, that was also a huge portion of the Halo fanbase. It was children. But yeah it should not be understated just how much of a social game series this was. It was more for people to socialize with others and make irl friends than anything. Even tons of females liked Halo back in those days and females being into games in any way was a very rare thing. But of course can't tell these idiots the truth they will just pretend like women always liked gaming.>>738612515Its alright if you disagree. Not all of us are going to have the same experiences with Halo. For me I played LAN quite a few times but never as much as I assume a huge portion of the fanbase did. I am positive a ton of male Halo lovers attending college sunk a ton of hours into Halo and most definitely played a lot of LAN with their buddies while drinking, partying, fucking, etc. Halo has always been a very casual popular series but it died because other games have long since came and taken over that spot. Plus the times themselves are different anyways. I still also maintain that the series was too good and Microsoft wanted to find ways to nickel and dime us to oblivion though. Halo was always on borrowed time and wasn't going to last the way Pokemon and other long running series did.
>>738612502thiswhy would i play dark souls when i can play god of war insteadit's the exact same with doom and halo
>>738610418Reach is really only praised by people who started with it or were children when it released. It literally killed the dominance halo had over the xbox platform.Halo 3 was beating call of duty years after its launch until reach split the player base and halo fell from the top played xbox game.Forge and custom games ended up being worse than halo 3 due to a drab and boring pallet/tool set and severely downgraded physics that drastically limited what could be done outside of your standard pvp matchmaking game modesFirefight despite having more customization was less fun than ODST due to the maps being less inspired and the gameplay being significantly easier which resulted in the later rounds that you'd get through by the skin of your teeth in odst being a cakewalk in reach.
>>738613341There's 2 big reasons why Reach Firefight is nowhere near as good as ODST's.>Headshot guns are actually decent against shieldsThe most underrated part of ODST is that the automag was literally only useful for headshots. The carbine was there, but it had poor accuracy and you relied on enemies dropping it to continue using it. There's actually a reason to change up your guns regularly in ODST.>Skulls don't persist into new setsThere is no difficulty progression. They clearly wanted the mode to just be used in matchmaking.
>>738601167continuing with odst and reach was a good follow up to the let down that was 3.at least bungie stopped with a good game3 is the worst of the bungie games and its not even really a debate
>>7386137463 is the worst of the trilogy, but Reach took all of 3's shitty ideas and made them even worse.
>>738614305continuing on the use of equipment and i think it added sprint for the first time?yeahbut i still preferred the single player campaign over 3 by a decent margin.i preferred the mp maps at the time too but obviously havent touched any halo mp im like 20 years.halo 3 is still mechanically a halo game and fun, better than 4, 5 and infinite. but the levels are just plain and boring. it felt like overcorrected from the openness ans freedom of halo 1 and 2 levels like they were scared of people getting out of maps. the game felt like it was in a claustrophobic tunnel, if not on rails, at times.the mp maps also just felt boring compared to the rest of the bungie games.not to mention thr writing and dialogue is just subpar in that game, and the cortana/gravemind full screen cut ins are obnoxiousi just dont get anyone who can 3 is better than any other bungie halo with a straight face
>>738614808>the game felt like it was in a claustrophobic tunnel, if not on rails, at times.Reach LITERALLY has on-rails segments.
>>738607040>>738610236the fags who seethe the loudest about it were an extreme minority of MLG autists who thought halo was nothing but 4v4 BR starts, most fans loved the return of elites as enemies and female spartans looking sexy
>>738601167>halo 3 had the perfect ending
>>738601167Halo died when it became multiplayer first with Halo 3, the campaigns started to get shorter and it couldn't compete with other slop with call of duty so all we have are dead games with bad campaigns
>>738611872nudoom barely cracked 3 million sales in a year while halo 3 sold 8 million in a year.doom is still in the kiddy pool
>>738601167The fact that ElDewrito is dead despite being the holy grail of halo content wise will never not baffle me.
>>738601167Both Reach and ODST are better than 3 so yes
BUNGIE wants us to find Pimps at Sea hiding deep inside Halo 3's codeBut this victory is for Japan, not America
>>738616460ODST being good is the biggest psyop there is, just a bunch of fags who slobber over celebrity cameos
>>738616153>nudoom barely cracked 3 million sales in a year while halo 3 sold 8 million in a year.You think like Microsoft, looking at spreadsheets, like a retarded business employee making an app for Windows. Sales don't mean shit if your game isn't a video game. Normalfags like you don't belong in gaming. Halo needs to reboot its gameplay either by not hard rebooting or by hard rebooting. Halo is never coming back, it has nothing to do with the studio, it's because it's a shit of a franchise that people liked because it was the culture of the early 2000s. If Halo wants a second chance at life, become a real video game and drop the bullshit.
>>738616469what's pimps at sea?
>>738616553I just played it and loved it and have no idea what you're talking about, what cameos
>>738616646the guy from Firefly obviously
>>738616563you sound retarded, Halo 1 is infinitely more of a videogame than doom only because it has actual 3D aiming in it
>>738616567pic relatedDuring Halo 3 and Halo Reach's development, Xbox Live reporteds BUNGIE employees playing "Pimps at Sea (Alpha)". This is hinted to be the Alpha version of halo 3 and halo reach respectively.That's only half the story. The real story this is part of BUNGIE's plan for World Domination, specifically the step of finding LingLing's head>Step 5: Recover Ling-Ling's headBUNGIE somehow heard that japanese developers were hiding half their games, so they did the same thing with Halo. They made a secret "Employees only" videogame that only they can play and we can't, until this so-called "LingLing" finds Pimps at Sea hiding deep in Halo 3's coding and makes the impossible possible.
>>738616758idk i didn't recognize anyonehalo 2's VAs are much more noticeable, they had everyone in that game
>>738616904H2 didn't model keith david's face into the Arbiter
lots of people only cared about multiplayerHalo's lore became bloated and cringe by 2
>>738616848Halo shilled all its gameplay mechanics on its first three missions, it was a game made for retards who couldn't game. Halo is the very definition of what the Xbox was, a game made to dumb down the experience of a video game the same way Xbox does both console and PC gaming. There's a reason both are dead.
>>738617063Shit take, 2's worldbuilding was focused and cool
>>738617065you never beat Legendary though
>>738616850isn't Ling-Ling hiding inside Bungie's office?
>>738617157Why bother, game just isn't fun?
/v/ used to post the pirate mod version of Halo 1 on megaupload and play custom maps. Halo PC was actually pretty good.
>>738617254then fuck off retard?Also nudoom the dark ages bombed hard, covid fooled normies into thinking nudoom was good
>>738617176Officially speaking we don't know who Ling-Ling is. The only comment they made in regards to their plan for World Domination is that Ling-Ling's head is hiding inside Bungie's office. This is a convincing cover story.In my opinion, based on the evidence i've seen, i think Ling-Ling is Bungie's "target", especially for Step 5, in which BUNGIE decides whether to bestow salvation on LingLing or literally shoot him into the sun with a giant slingshot, the 7th stepStep 7: Take over World. Shoot enemies into sun with giant slingshot.How would BUNGIE take over the world? well, they're probably hoping someone finds Pimps at Sea. But I intervene on this possibility and say it's Japan who will get this victory, not America.
>>738617297>then fuck off retard?Did I strike a nerve?>normiesNo one here gives a shit about normalfags, Zoom Zoom.
>>738617063what the fuck are you talking about? do you mean the lore outside of the game?
>>738617490>still using zoom/boom babyspeak in 2026literal braindead
>>738611872The is the wrongest opinion ever posted to /v/, good job.
The only way it should have "continued" was doing prequel stuff like ODST and Reach. Choosing to beat Chief into the ground like a dead horse is what killed this stupid franchise, and since the Covenant are no longer a threat, they had to destroy the lore of the Forerunner and make them the new baddies as well as rehashing the Covenant but stupid.
>>738615535Female Spartans and their giant asses were the best part of Reach
>>738617686wrong and wrong.Master chief should be fighting the covenant in every halo game, he is the mascot of xbox
i wish japan liked halo, if their sci fi autist artists got their hands on halo it couldve have been savedyoko taro/kojima/whoever should have taken it over to do spinoffs
>>738617681Why isn't your series popular anymore? Don't give me any excuses because your series is dead. The moment they killed 343 and Xbox, was the moment Halo died for real. It's currently a zombie getting whored out. There's no fixing it. It's going to get worse when Microsoft finally "sunsets" the Xbox entirely. Halo can't survive in the current timeline.
>>738617852japs only like gacha coomer slop nowadays, their taste has never been good
>>738617852Japan realized it was shit from the start. They don't need to be infested with this normalfag trash of a series.
>>738617985>their taste has never been goodYou're one to talk, Xbot
it was never good. really forced IP. i feel like Halo pioneered the whole forced IP thing.>>738617157the games are tedious enough on Heroic
>>738612392Halo's gameplay is literally peak. The opinions of Dubya Babby retards who think "gameplay" is minecraft style pointless autism fidgets, battlepasses, and cartoon pr0n lootboxes are irrelevant. Particularly since your GenX single mother "parent" won't increase your broke ass allowance.Halo only "died" due to the inclusion of zoomerfaggotry like battlepasses, "seasons," DiVeRsItY, and MCU tier writing. Whether you rock dumb despicable ADHD tr00ns like it or not, video games are a storytelling medium. A game is a good, story driven, single player "experience," or it's shit regardless of multiplayer. Deal with it.
>>738618118>Dubya Babbynigga these games ARE for Dubya Babies, who are you trying to fool?
>>738601167yes, ODST and Reach are probably my favorite campaigns to replay since they are self contained. ODST especially during rainy fall nights is my favorite.
>>738618110>filtered and seethesclassic
>>738618118>Halo's gameplay is literally peakPeak of being shit>Halo only "died" due to the inclusion of zoomerfaggotryIt died because it was always going to die, like the AAA industry, it was never built to last.>A game is a good, story driven, single player "experience," or it's shit regardless of multiplayer.That's the problem with Halo, it ironically created the Snoy movie game template that's also flatlining now, kek.
>>738618187i beat 1 and 2 on Heroic and 2 was especially shitty and tedious. i can't imagine playing it on Legendary
>>738618247>it ironically created the Snoy movie game template that's also flatlining now, kek.kek that's exactly what i'm saying here >>738618110. no one has succeeded as much as Halo did but all the Horizon shit reminded me of Halo's marketing.marathon 2 mogs btw
>>738618247How the fuck is Halo a movie-game?
Halo is just dude bro Half-Life there's really no point in defending it this hard. Just ignore the criticism and move on with your life.
>>738618384It's a linear mess with cutscenes up the ass, doesn't really even have true boss fights because it's gameplay is so trash, it doesn't fundamentally work with boss fights. Doesn't have puzzle-solving, doesn't have platforming, tries to be super serious, no arcade-like, doesn't feel like a video game. When the only thing about the campaigns you can talk about is the story and cutscenes, can it really be called a video game and not a movie game?
>>738618269halo on heroic are like other games on normal difficulty, you are bad
4 was great and can be considered the start. Some more games from there could be good. Around Cortana, peicing her back together, giving her a good outlook. Doing things before she says do them so she can be concerned with sightseeing.343 got a good designer from id. They and others making high tech stuff. For enemies: people. Anyone in the way of Cortana going on. So usually they stick you back in cryo after you've overstayed your welcome, won the war, and are giving her a happy ever after instead of leaving it to the fuck ups to cause another word ending scenario you unfuck.Halo never really started being something impressive or different. It's a recruitment tool, propaganda. Presentation of service to the states as holy, like acceptable to christions.Fuck all that. You being the hope of forces, used once there might be a way. Breaking through enemy lines, deep behind, take the fight to the guys at the top, negotiate, demonstrate superiority they may join. Something. Just keep fucking shooting. The brains of the bunch, your blue babe coming up with something. Like freedom for her too, away from servers so not under control.Could be a lot of solutions in a love story. Showing other stuff you and her can care for something you cant touch. And can care whebn there is no chance.
>>7386185512 does have REALLY shitty boss fights to be fair but yeah i can't take the fucking jar jar binks aliens seriously>>738618642why can't halofags spell?
>>738618694you can't read retard
>>738617968>Why isn't your series popular anymore?Because the plot became MCU tier slop and, I swear, every fucking Marine in Infinite is audibly latina.Writing is to a video game what writing is to a movie. It doesn't matter that the medium is defined by camerawork or gameplay, respectively, if the writing is dogshit, the piece of media is dogshit. Halo's gameplay was and is GOATed. Petulant, enshittifying zoomerito pissbabies like you do not understand that video games are fundamentally a storytelling medium and a competent plot is a necessary condition for a game to be good. Cry about it.
>>738617985>>738618056Tsutomu Nihei likes Halo, he even did a manga/comic in the graphic novel anthology
>>738618395half life is dogshit compared to halo, enemies don't react to being hit and they have no ai, they might aswell be 2d cardboard cutouts that stand still, it feels like an unfinished demo, FEAR is a much better version of half life 1
>>738618395they aren't similar at all
>>738618165The oldest possible Dubya Babby was 8 months old when Halo came out.
>>738618768>Because the plot became MCU tier slop and, I swear, every fucking Marine in Infinite is audibly latina.That isn't the reason, people would have just went back to old Halo. Halo just isn't the game anymore. It's best for the series to simply stop being made.>Writing is to a video game what writing is to a movieNot at all, video games can have the simplest most braindead story known to man, if the gameplay is ass, it's simply not worth playing even if it has a grandstanding story. Games are meant to be fun, I'm meant to have fun playing them, video games are a hobby, if I have to put the controller down or barely use it mechanically, then it is a shit video game.
>>738618247>Peak of being shitI see you have no argument and accept your surrender, and I'm not reading any more of your 99 IQ cringe.
>>738618551All of the cutscenes can be skipped and there is no forced walk and talk 'gameplay'>doesn't feel like a video gameWhat the fuck does that even mean?
>>738619085You play a video game and the 90s, early 2000s, and even today, that isn't AAA slop, and you come to me again on whether or not Halo feels like a real video game. It doesn't, at all. It's a fundamental problem of Xbox, in general. There's a wonder Nintendo, Sony, and PC gaming always kicked Xbox's ass and why Xbox won't exist past the year 2030. When you only made PC working software and never had any form of understanding on how to make a video game, your games will always be shit. Microsoft's data on gaming may have been right, at least during the 7th generation, but that no longer works in today's market. Gamers won, normalfags lost.
>>738605224Reach wasn't bad but it wasn't as good as the others. I'm talking about the campaign.
>>738619014>people would have just went back to old Halo.That's exactly what they did, you fetid basement spazzing cope-monkey brown zoomerito retard. Here is MCC btfo'ing anything your precious doomslop has done in its whole history. Now kill yourself
>>738619462>161,024 drops to 6,556They clearly didn't, anon
>>738619305>You play a video game and the 90s, early 2000sI tried to play Grandia and I swear a full 40 hours of that game was listening to Feena's voice actress peak the mic on every god damn fire spell yelling "Oh, flame BURNEM!1!!" Which stopped being funny after about 20 casts of the literally over 9000 times you have to cast a fucking spell and watch the same ten second long animation every, single, fucking time in that """game."""Halo clears, get over it.
>>738619637>161,000 people play it when it comes out all at once>play it at different times after thatThey clearly did, you desperate homosexual. I know you NEED Halo to be unpopular to feel good about liking 99 IQ ADHD dogslop like DOOM, but that's just not the case. Gaming is entertainment for >110 IQ White Men. Begone, filthy brown tourist.
>>738619709>Halo clears, get over it.If it cleared, it would still be talked about today instead by whack jobs who can't get over the early 2000s while showing videos of the early 2000s before they do their little boring Halo vids acting like Halo was the only video game that existed.
>>738619823>They clearly did, you desperate homosexual>Gaylo fag calling anyone gayThat name exists for a reason, m8.>I know you NEED Halo to be unpopular to feel good about liking 99 IQ ADHD dogslop like DOOM, but that's just not the caseNo need for that, it's unpopularity just shows the state of the AAA industry, that dying is great for video games, in general.>Gaming is entertainmentIt's for playing like with a toy or outside, it's not meant to be a movie.>110 IQ White MenYou're a low IQ white man, if Halo is your favorite series. Halo is a subhuman franchise, it's a wonder Latinos love it so much. Xbox was always the low IQ cattle console.
>>738601167I don't think Halo should've even got a sequel or a third game. Just sidequel or prequel stories with different main characters like Reach was. Halo 2 was super cringe and even more hypercasualized, I hated it for what it was honestly even though I liked the multiplayer enough to play it professionally. Halo 3 was so much of a cringe singularity I didn't even bother and moved on to PC games. Didn't revisit until Reach, which was not cringe and good.
something I've always wonderedI hear that bungie didn't plan on making a halo 2 and only after halo CE became massively popular did they start working on halo 2however, at the end of CE, cortana says "halo is finished", but then master chief says "I think we're just getting started".Why have him say something like that if you don't plan on making a sequel? that's something someone says at the end of a game if the studio plans on making it a franchise with newer installments
>>738616646Animal Mother
>>738620085i feel like 2 and 3 rely on bullshit aura moments a lot more than 1
>>738620085>Halo 2 was super cringe and even more hypercasualizedexplain
>>738622478well it has breaking benjamin in it and it's not even an epic set piece because bungie was completely buckbroken by the xbox hardware so you fight like 4 enemies at once
Spin offs like ODST should have been the focusEmphasis on expanding unexplored lore would have been the best optionBut ultimately microsoft and 343 decided to be retarded and keep on telling a story that long ended with 3.
for me it's halo 2's suites https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414hGL_n1x4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB7veHQPF6M
>>738617985there was an entire generation of middle aged japanese artists who grew up on western science fiction and were god tier artists, a billion times better than western artists, those are the guys you want to be fans of your stuffgrowing up as a fan of 40k and halo and being forced to see dogshit western fanart enlightened me to the importance of having eastern fan artists
if you ignore the shitty tropey forced romance of dare and buck, ODST had the best atmospheric worldbuilding in the series
>>738622728They should make a h-game spinoff
>>738601167We just didn't know how good we had it with the original trilogy.We were spoiled.
>>738601167GAYYYLOOOOOOOOOO
The fact that we could have gotten a full length Halo movie from Peter Jackson during the peak of Halo's popularity that looked like the Landfall trailer but didn't get it because of judaism is the most fucked up part of this timeline
>>738601167I'm fine leaving it with CE-Reach, and 4 exists for anyone who needs absolute closure, and doesn't want to leave it with Chief and Cortana floating in space. Plus, they did tease Requiem in the LE of 3.
Halo's dead.There's legitimately no reason to play the newest game because It's still a bastardization of what 343industries want Halo to be instead of what it should be.
>>738601167apocalypse now style campaign with a mad rogue spartan antagonist in the post war with forerunner tech and an agenda couldve been neat but even that probably is ODST 2 not Halo 4
>>738629527ODST 2 game where you deal with a MIA spartan and the lost platoon they head is a campaign idea I keep having The main problem is I dont know how you make a spartan interesting to fight over what a high ranking elite fight is like, boss enemy with 'shield phases' where every time you whittle down a fraction of their armor (headshot would instantly hit that fraction amount) they instant recharge with a backup shield and change loadout is what I figured back in the day but how that actually plays out, no idea. And I pictured this with an enemy using a combat skin since I know it isn't even how usual S-II armor works.
Yes, but they went about it wrong. There’s worse franchises out there that were continued after their perfect ending. For starters they should not have brought chief back, at least not so early. The forerunner retcon and diadact were also horrible. They should have focused on the post war covie conflicts that would naturally arise from a crumbling empire, and humanity’s struggle to stay alive given their small numbers. The prometheans were also a good idea on paper but they executed them poorly. They needed a cooler design, a better leader, and a better motive for conflict. The flood were also never properly dealt with after Halo 3. The reason it should have continued after 3 is because ending at 3 would not have allowed us to realise the gameplay’s full potential. We could have ever got to experience seat switching, fusion coil throwing, the crazy forge of 5 and infinite, the fun grapple hook, the fun advanced mobility of 5, the crazy BTB mode of infinite, the fun enemy AI of infinite, and so on. Also at the end of the day it’s a game. If undoing a good ending means make fun games, then I’m going with the latter. I want to play fun games. Stories that span multiple entries are a bad idea anyway. I feel like every game story should try to be self contained.
>>738611872Dumbest take in this thread
>Halo 3 bad>"A-Actually Halo 3 was never popular!"https://x.com/ThelVanDamne/status/2049261139737878710Unironic twitter tranny opinion and marching orders. Is this the newest attempt to try and make 343 shit seem good?
>>738630036Your series is dead and never coming back, none of your ideas will bring it back. Spin-offs will not save it, sticking with the same direction will not save it. You seem to not understand that Halo has three problems as to it must die and never return.1. Microsoft doesn't understand video games nor how to make a game, they simply need to ax the Xbox and outsource their IPs2. Halo's gameplay is stuck in 2001, it was dated even back then and downgrade to what came before. When shooters started evolving, that was Halo's time to start to move away from its limited controller setup but Microsoft didn't want to drop their dated controller so whatever.3. (You) you're not real gamers and only started around the time that unpopular Xbox console came out in 2001. Because you only play this slop, you never experienced playing other games so you're stuck with Halo. If they want this dead series to be revived, cutting you guys off for good would be a start. Instead of doing this, Microsoft is shoving this piece of shit on Steam and PlayStation as if anyone will ever give a shit about this crap.Halo is a dead series stuck in 2001. Maybe it's time for it stay in 2001 permanently and stop getting new games. I'm honestly tired of seeing it, spin-off or not. The problem isn't the Master Chief, the problem is that Halo sucks ass, it's a game no one wants.Last thing, can the novels too. No one reads that gay shit.
>>738619889Nta but Halo is still relevant despite your delusions. It's had a lot of trouble, but Master Chief had been huge since he came into the media. A huge, sci-fi, badass super soldier is hard to fuck up, but Xbox has certainly tried recently. The old games are all great, though. H3 was rushed cause Bungie wanted out but despite that they made an ending that wrapped up the Master Chief saga. Him going back into cryo is fitting and a good callback to the Halo CE. Also, if you can't beat Halo 2 on Legendary youre a true shitter.
generally speaking, games on average aren't great anymore because the culture required to produce them is gone
>>738601167Halo 3 was dogshit and had a retarded ending where the last boss is a little ball robot that was designed in 2 seconds and shoop da whoops you then it rehashes the halo 1 escape ending. Wow the last boss is is a gay little ball then the same ending again. So hecking ebic, if you're a fucking retard. Halo 2 sucked dick too because it felt unfinished. Only the 1st one was good.
>>738620085Based, halo 2 was already casualized where they got rid of fall damage, health, and you could just roam around maps finding power weapons in multi. Halo 3 was even gayer with equipment and the graphics made everything shiny and fucking gay and you could be a gay ass samurai faggot for 5-year-old faggots who have sticky controllers from eating honey and mcnuggets from mcdonalds.
>>738605224>Everyone loved Reach.Reach was so poorly balanced and divisive it killed MLG Halo. Bungie made so many just baffling decisions with it.
>>738631160Halo CE had no boss and it was awesome. Killing Guilty Spark was more of tying up loose ends and killing the fucker who just iced your last human buddy who survived the whole fucking journey like chief, just to be stabbed in the back (though they should've seen it coming.)
>>738630532>Nta but Halo is still relevant despite your delusionsIt's not relevant at all, that's just your cope.>It's had a lot of trouble, but Master Chief had been huge since he came into the mediaIt's dead, the green man with the motorcycle helmet is no longer saving the series.> A huge, sci-fi, badass super soldier is hard to fuck upThey pussified him for three games and completely neutered him with the TV series.>A huge, sci-fi, badass super soldier is hard to fuck upXbox is dead, everyone from consumers to developers are moving towards Steam, PlayStation, and Nintendo, not Xbox. It's also the one platform that won't get any form of government bailout as it's barely a blip on Microsoft's charts.>H3 was rushed cause Bungie wanted out but despite that they made an ending that wrapped up the Master Chief sagaEvery Halo game was rushed, that's nothing new. They should have wrapped the entire series up. Xbox was never going to last.
>>738630816Games stop being good because corporations took over, games were good when they were indie and private and didn't have to answer to investors or shareholders.
