>so umm.. we keep cloning this little girl because we don't know the password>and we do experiments on them because>and oswald spencer is a good guy nowWho the fuck wrote this nonsensical garbage?
Why did Nesker think the girls blood would have the password to the computer?
>>738603192Why was Gideon even harvesting her blood in the first place if they could just take her to input the password?
>>738603457For a nice drinkWho knowsConsume product and get excited for next product
>>738603007Bro the entire re universe premise is dumb. Bioweapons are retarded. A single drone with a mini nuke is more powerful and cheaper to make than a fucking Nemesis/Tyrant. The games are enjoyable because they have low budget syfy videogame plots with fun gameplay and likeable characters.
>>738603007We're at a point where the REmakes have better plots than the newer ongoing titles.
There's not a single Resident Evil game with a good story, they're all stupid and nonsensical. The characters are all mostly boring too, I genuinely don't understand why people become obsessed with them. The only exception was Ethan's arc in Village, which was actually pretty good (despite the overall plot still being nonsensical).
>>738606575>The characters are all mostly boring too, I genuinely don't understand why people become obsessed with them.In the case of Jill Valentine, sure. But Leon is fun as hell because he actually has personality.
>>738606665>Marvel quips = personality
>>738606746We stopped playing the original after the remake made it obsolete.
>>738606575>>738606012>reductive faggotryFuck off if you don't want to discuss the topic at hand you mentally retarded nigger.>300 posts later because nobody here ever fucks off when told to, because for some reason the lowest forms of human shit imaginable also have gigantic egos they feel the need to defendThank God for the ability to hide posts, get back in the garbage bin where you belong.
More like El Piss, amirite?
>>7386065757 was great except for Mia being super secret operative for The Big Bad Wolf Inc. without her husband noticing
>>738603007I don't mind the plotholes in a RE game but blatant retcons like>oswald spencer is a good guy nowdid rub me the wrong way
>>738603007Wait...RE plots are retarded, no way...
>>738603007>oswald spencer is a good guy nowall he did was secure his weapons supremacy doesn't matter who else has BOWs if he can just cure them
>>738606817>weWho? The normies? The shills? Or the gay faggots?
>>738607824>The normies? The shills? Or the gay faggots?No need to call out the fans of the original like that, even if it is true.
>>738603007you think cute kids make good test subjects and then they activate your innate parental instincts by being cute and turn you goodsame thing happened to the jew in bioshock
>>738603007Wasted potential the character
>>738603007>goodguyMore like a "fuck you" to everyone that took his research.
It feels like the story for Requiem was constantly changing throughout production because the writers didn't know what the fuck they were doing, like they got new ideas but left the old ones in. The little girl clones have nothing to do with Elpis but they're still left in the story for some reason.
>>738603007On one hand, the series for the most part has always had questionable plots. On the other, RE9 in particular really upped the ante in that department.>Victor and Zeno need Grace alive to obtain Elpis. They leave her alone to survive in a facility filled with hostiles.>Everything about the "I didn't hit her Vitals," with Emily.>Nathan sending Grace alone and to Wrenwood in general. If he is honestly in on it or was ordered by high ups were in on it from The Connections, they needed to be more explicit or clarify. Maybe they will in a future DLC.I still liked the game, because at the end of the day, it's a videogame, so everything is just for that.
>>738608448You don't understand broThey thought spencer adopted one of the clones so they made more clones because they didn't know the computer password
>>738608502>Nathan sending Grace alone and to Wrenwood in generalI don't see the big deal, it was just a crime scene, there was a cop to protect her from any hobo or junkie who'd want to get in there and if she want to work for FBI she needs to get her shit together anyway.
For all the brainlets here who played the game through youtube shorts>spencer was working on memory transfer>he tried to transfer his memroies cloned little girls brains>gideon thought he adopted grace bcause she was a successful clone that inherited his memories>he studied her and put her through stressful situations to see if he could decipher the code
>>738603007The team tasked with coming up with some ass-pull to keep the series going so they can make more games.
>>738603007me, did you rike it?
>>738603007>so umm.. we keep cloning this little girl bec-Say no more.
Idont care, I love resident evils, theyre fun dumb and full of cum
>the story is all a big misunderstanding from the villainsthat's kinda cool... right?
>>738609780How does this explanation make it any less retarded?
>>738603007dont worry about it. RE Engine REmake HD Remake HD coming soon and the timeline will be rebooted once more.
>>738603007>EL PISS XDthey were just goofing around when they wrote the plot for this game
reddit evil has bad writingnews at 11
>>738610875It will be revealed that the Megamycete was actually a mutation of the true progenitor originating in the caves of lithuania
>>738611178That originated from a meteor crash landing eons ago.
>>738603007Ignoring all the retarded retcons I think victor was a fun character. Zeno had potential but he feels like a last second addition to the plot.
>>738612568Zeno did absolutely nothing other than smoke and have less than 10 lines of dialogue
>>738607468 That is a stretch at best. Oswell buried Elpis away because he decided to go all in on the godhood plan. The only reason he didn't destroy it was because he knew someone else would make their own BOWs to compete with Umbrella, and Elpis was his "ultimate weapon" to wreck their shit if they dared to fight him.
>>738606012Actually bioweapons are not stupid. This argument of "a drone with a mininuke" doesn't work because most countries are not going to nuke their own cities and production bases without very good cause. The point of the bioweapons is to get them into a country whose defenses are otherwise capable of shutting down traditional means of attack. At that point the bioweapons either eliminate the enemy, or the infected country has to do what it absolutely otherwise would not do, bomb itself.I mean, seriously, did that concept elude you? Are you one of those stupid fags who goes, "Dur, what good is an AR15, the government has nukes!" as if a government is going to nuke itself and absolutely destroy its economy and international trust.
>>738612568Those were some nice jackets eh
>>738603007>and oswald spencer is a good guy nownobody said that
>>738608502>>738603007>we need a 'nobody' but also le twist; aka grace
What do I do with my leftover points now that I've unlocked absolutely everything ever
outbreak remake when
>>738613060There's no way RE5 Spencer and RE9 Spencer are the same character, c'mon now.
>>738617215https://youtu.be/v2jnCfPy49Qdon't say i never got you nothing
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>>738617327just retcon enough to dumb twist>there is ANOTHER lab>next to the last one, that nobody knew about>no the bomb was to cover the real secretit doesn't really change much, one last thing he made before going senile, probably written that he was only faking for the camera
>>738613567So use a chemical weapon then.
>>738606862Its not reductive to point out that RE is at its peak when Chris punches boulders and wesker throws sunglasses.
>'Extreme?'>Is it?delivery was so real
>>738619092I miss DC douglas and I miss the rest of the OG cast. These new VAs suck aside from maybe grace and victor.
>>738603457same reason Leon totally avoided Emily's vitals. The game was rewritten repeatedly.
>>738606012Drones didn't exist in the 90s when this franchise peaked much less in the 70s/80s when Umbrella canonically started trying to sell BoWs.
>>738613567nta but bioweapons are stupid and most of all, ineffective, as proven by the games themselves. Leon himself has a big bioweapon bodycount. Why the fuck do you need a licker for a example? You can kill it easily like a dog, and it's fucking blind. It's stupid. I can dismantle every single bioweapon but I'm not gonna bother.
>>738619663Leon is not the average person. Average people in resident evil cannot deal with basic zombies let alone anything more
>>738619247miss the old cast so muchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS_rowAAij0
>>738619792So? Just get a few commandos like Leon and it negates your billion dollar bioweapons. If your arguments is that you use them against civilians, then anything will work and you don't need special bioweapons. Also Grace was supposed to be an average civilian and has a bodycount. She literally dismantles lickers with a bottle of acid lmao.
MY FUARKING HEROES
>>738606012Its ok when resident evil has the most dog shit plot you've ever seen, but DmC? No.
>>738621284is dante only there because of netflix
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>>738603007Menacing dude that dies like a bitch. Shame about the plot but the VA gave a good performance
>>738619937Although overall I agree with you, a single licker kills a whole of spec ops in the Ark, and then Leon almost at death's door kills 6 in the same room easy peacy. The main cast are basically super heroes, applying real world logic to RE is silly.
>>738606012The only game that ever tried to make BOWs seem reasonable as investments was unused parts of the first game, (airborne T, the Tyrant being able to control zombies it created) everything after that is just an excuse to have zombies and monsters. You can't think too hard about it.Though the idea of the T virus and everything related to it just being byproducts of the actual goal of immortality eugenics research does sort of handwave it enough most of the time tbf.
>>738603007RE9 has the worst story in vidya after Dragons Dogma 2. It literally makes zero sense.
>>738619663I always assume that the reason bioweapons get killed so easily in RE games is because if they didn't then the plot would just endIt would just be 'and then the tyrant shows up and kills everyone instead of just walking at them'
>>738619792most special ops like umbrella, bsaa etc easily takes on bioweapons
>>738613567Who said anything about nuking your own cities you retard? If we're going down the road of "you can't just attack your own cities with a nuke!" then it follows that you wouldn't cause a zombie fucking apocalypse in your own cities either because that shit could wreck the whole continent. Anything a monster centric bioterror attack can do, traditional military weapons and vehicles can do better. A las plagas type deal that can quietly take over a population under mind control has uses, but a 30 million dollar gorilla lizard mutant that can be killed by a shotgun is a complete waste of money.
>>738608502Yeah it's pretty bad in RE9. I'm of the opinion that the plotholes are mostly a result of trying to smash together two different stories at once. If it had been JUST a leon game or JUST a grace game at the start then things would've worked out much better.
>>738606012Not OP. I just want to say that you are too dumb to live, that is all.
>>738606012Shut up, you cancerous little retard. The lore was one of the best things about these games.
>>738606575You have absolutely garbage taste and should fuck off because clearly this series isn't for you.
>>738621723grim
I do not understand what Gideon was even planning to do. Once he has it explained to him Elpis is a cure he just continues insisting he'll use it to somehow do something else.
>>738612872>Leon and Grace make a daring escape from the Elpis computer room>Zeno stands around smoking for 20 minutes>They just come back in
>>738628087He was going to use it to cause chaos. Bioweapons are the WMDs of the setting. Imagine if someone in our world had a button that could turn off nukes. He'd be able to do anything.
>>738628196Oh so he's Heath Ledger then
>>738628196Yes but Gideon's intent was to continue what he thought Spencers goals were. Spencer sought world dominance and immortality. He didn't want to just fuck with people for no reason beyond the chaos of it.
>>738603007It's written for redditors who also get excited about consuming slop remakes, don't worry about it
>>738606817still crying over that crowbcat video?
>>738619465>He doesnt know that we've had FPV drone bombs since the 40s
Wait, so they were actually clones of Grace?
>>738603007The writer only watched the Anderson movies. That's your reason.
>>738626575>>738626690>>738606862Everyone look at how mad these rump roasted retards are Lmao
>>738619247i like new Leonalso seeing him going from a naive rookie cop to a certified bow curb stomper is great
>>738628414Following this, Gideon's goal should've been to use Elpis to make himself into an immortal God...although that still really isn't what Spencer wanted because he was a narcissist, the point was for HIM to become elevated over others.
>>738630134>make himself into an immortal Godspencer...wesker...
why was zeno so lame compared to wesker
>>738603007The girl was cloned as a product line of immortals that would help Spencer achieve immortality.The experiments on them were to help sequence the blood which held the key to immortality. Memories would be stored in the blood, and then, upon transference to a new body, that person would then live with all the previous knowledge of the deceased.Oswald Spencer wasn't a good guy, he just became an anti-villain. He wanted to be a jerk, but he was confounded by old age. His old age and his shit health got in the way of his ambitions, so he turned his dreams away from evolving humanity to preserving what little time he had left (immortality). He was an antagonist to humanity, but because of his wealth and old age, became a protagonist of immortality.
Why did the mask guy make people into zombies? If he needed Grace then why would he put her in harm’s way like that?
>>738603007the fans wanted more stupid shit so Capcom gave them re6 2
>>738603007They keep cloning the girls because they suspect there’s something special in their blood that can help them figure out the password. More specifically, they’re trying to continue one of Spencer’s experiments that involved injecting his blood and the T-Virus into these cloned children in a attempt at passing his consciousness down to them so that he could become immortal, but it never ended up working. They never realized this, and assumed that because Spencer spoke so highly of Grace, that she was the only successful clone, and that they could unlock Ellis by using her, or making a new successful clone from her blood if she ended up dying. And Spencer isn’t a good guy, he was just remorseful. Try playing the game with your eyes and ears on next time, because it’s embarrassing that so many grown adults look at this simple plot, and are still confused by it.
>>738632351How do you get get the password from the clones anyway? Like at what age should you ask them? What if they lie? What if you had x2 born at the same time and they give different answers?
>>738631823More importantly, it’s incredibly obvious why Spencer named his adopted daughter Grace. It’s very clear that he meant it in a biblical sense, what with all of the other biblical allusions throughout the series, and even 9 with the ARK and NOAH. Grace is the unconditional love, mercy, and forgiveness that God offers towards sinners, despite how unworthy they are of it. I think Elpis might’ve started out as a plan to fuck over the Connections, but through time, constantly failing to become a God like he wanted, and the fact that he realized he was much happier being a father than he ever was chasing his delusions of grandeur, he truly came to regret the life he lived, and hoped that one day Grace would be able to right his wrongs and make up for the damage he caused, even if he knew it was too little too late and that he was far from deserving forgiveness.
>>738603192It's implied that thanks to Spencer's whole blood memory transfer shit they did some obscenely retarded long game plan of trying to do the same thing without actually understanding the principles or how to do it properly. And presumably they thought that Grace had to be adopted by Spencer entirely because he actually managed it with her somehow, and they'd maybe be able to swipe or copy the password from her with more clones.Honestly not only is the plot still pants on head retarded, but the notes that are REQUIRED READING to even hope to comprehend it are even worse because it's a few project statements followed by gigantic leaps of logic from the villains that don't even get properly explained, you just have to imply and contextualize them alongside Grace's Report.
>>738619937>billion dollar>he doesn't know
>>738632741Basically, they grow these girls as genetic clones in artificial wombs using the same genetic material as each other, and raised up to a certain age. Once they reach that age, which is approximately the same age as Chloe, Marie, and Emily, they are selected for testing, and get injected with the T-Virus mixed with Spencer’s blood. This usually results in mental abnormalities, transformation, and an incredible resistance towards damage, but other girls end up being more resilient against its effects, like Emily and Chloe. There’s no real reason to assume they would lie either, since none of them seemed like the type to do that.
>>738621723But it’s specifically the olive skinned DMC1 Dante.
>>738603457They suspected Chloe and the clones from the orphanage were a vital part of Spencer's plan and that they would have some kind of genetic memory to know the password to Elpis. They researched further and discovered there was a specific person, Grace, that they had an incomplete medical history that they through was the real key. That's why they took and tested her blood, to confirm she was the person specified in Spencer's notes.
>>738608502>>Victor and Zeno need Grace alive to obtain Elpis. They leave her alone to survive in a facility filled with hostiles.She escaped. Victor tries to recapture her in a missable scene in the Head Researcher's office (The puzzle box that needs acid.) but she eludes him.Zeno just smoking in the Elpis room after Leon and Grace escape is dumb though. >>Everything about the "I didn't hit her Vitals," with Emily.Very dumb.>>Nathan sending Grace alone and to Wrenwood in general. If he is honestly in on it or was ordered by high ups were in on it from The Connections, they needed to be more explicit or clarify. Maybe they will in a future DLC.This is more on Grace. The whole desk jockey going to do CSI shit at a no longer active crime scene is fine, but when she finds creepshot stalker photos of herself with a key and a note saying, "Come into my rape dungeon little girl." and not calling in backup is fucking dumb.
>>738634253It’s not that dumb. We saw pretty clearly that it took the sunlight AND a 50 cal to kill Marie, which made her melt into goo. Emily basically got knocked out by Leon’s pistol, since she basically turned into a giant Tyrant fetus, and was also nearly indestructible as one. I think the line itself might just be a bad translation, but it’s clear that they foreshadowed Emily surviving.
>>738608502>They leave her alone to survive in a facility filled with hostiles.yeah this was retarded once it was revealed that Grace was just a regular person and Gideon somehow managed to suppress her from being turned after being bit.
>>738636193I fine with Leon having 28 years of experience and being able to very quickly recognize a Tyrant's exposed heart and not being so cold as to kill Emily right in front of Grace.But just the writing that leads to Emily dying, mutating, getting put down, Grace getting so despondent she walks into Victor and Zeno and goes with them, the entire structure of the dialog between Leon and Grace when he tells her, "I didn't hit her vitals.", and the Emily cocoon when they go back to administer Elpis, it's all structured and delivered in such a stupid way that it makes it dumb.
i'm either retarded or this shit sucksi've only finished one run on the easiest and keep getting one-shotted like 20 min in now by rag heads or running out of ammo and time on viktor
>>738626537you can tell they were going to make a leon open world game from the middle section in raccoon city because of elden ring's successthen just scrapped it and forcefucked it into the middle of a perfectly good game
>>738608735it's pretty unrealistic that they'd send a girl with personal investment and PTSD to the place where her mother was murdered, let alone someone as evidently traumatized as grace. that said, this is like one of the least retarded things happening in this game
>>738638374the blue and red enemies, and randomized hatchet refills are artificial difficulty
>>738639209they're a bag of bullshit. it's not even worth doing them right with melee or parrying. you just have to brute force them with guns because otherwise you're going to take damage
>>738628196>Bioweapons are the WMDs of the settingThat doesn't make any sense.
>>738606012Only militaries have nuclear weapons, and can't deploy them without the origin being known instantly. Bioweapons can be used by terrorists discreetly.
>>738606012I think you're mistaking what's the fundamental premise of the series for the plot of the game
>>738638374I've gotten to Victor on rank 2 twice now only to be oneshot by his RPG and I stopped trying. It's not nearly as good as RE4 Mercenaries which I liked enough to S+ every stage with every character.
>>738631674He was nothing but an imitation.
>>738603007I'm glad this thread exists because I'm having trouble figuring out this plot. So Spencer gets regrets, creates a cure for for all disease, and then he for some reason locks it in a superbox? Why? Wouldn't he want to share it with the world as soon as it was done? Or was it not finished? If it wasn't finished who completed it? And then was his plan to adopt an orphan girl, give her to mama Ashcroft, and hope that she would tell the daughter the password? Again, why? And what was Gideon's plan to get in? Why was he harvesting that blood? It seems like he mostly just wanted Grace to enter the password herself?
>>738628196Wouldn't governments just go back to the nuclear stockpile?
>>738631823That's the best explanation I've heard. Kudos.
>>738612568I ended up quite liking Victor as a villain. I was hoping he would survive to become a new recurring character. Killing Wesker was a mistake. The connections are boring as fuck.
>>738619247Victor's VA is pretty good. I liked that soft spoken creepy giant man.
>>738603007They killed off my favorite Outbreak character...Alyssa deserved better.
>>738606012>nuke a target area>the environment is will be polluted for years on end thanks to radiation (hope you weren’t planning on taking over)>entire world gets an excuse to point all guns at you because you’re a menace and public enemy #1 for actually firing a nuke post-ww2Jeets are a bio weapon and look how effective they’ve been at dismantling Canada from the inside out in the past few years
>>738628094One of the funniest moments in the game>all that shit to have leon more broken and dying than old Snake in the microwave tunnel>all of it just for grace to understand what the password was>they return there and zeno be like “ took you quite time, my compliments for the failed escape”
>>738643085it wasn't a nuke canonically
>>738606012If bioweapons are so retarded then can to explain the reason for the mass migration of these african, muslim and asians being flooded here en masse?
>>738608502I can buy Emily surviving due to a regenerative immortality and the fact that Leon spent less bullets on her than the average zombie. But him saying he missed her vitals was retarded
>>738644379> But him saying he missed her vitals was retardedIn a meta sense he is not wrong.Any of us saw any glowing points? Weird protuberances? Slimy hearts? Glowing bleeding enourmous eyes?Nope,not a single weakpoint
>>738640072Spencer mostly wanted to make sure the Connections didn’t get it, which was difficult because they had taken over nearly every part of the company at that point. And though Gideon and not-Wesker thought Grace was the key to unlocking it, she was just a rando orphan that Spencer adopted out of guilt. Her figuring out the password was just pure coincidence
>>738638374It's trial and error, enemies are more or less RNG. I kept getting fucked at the care center on rank 2 because of blister heads randomly popping up in the lounge area or the blue and red colored npcs showing up in groups. If you want to take out the red ones have them follow you to an area where there's an explosive or throwable weapon like an axe or pipe which will one shot them instantly. Alternatively just shoot them in the leg and spin kick them so you can hack them to death with the hatchet.
>>7386065757 and Revelations 2 are the only half-decent stories in the series. The entire fandom is basically tricked by character designs into thinking that something interesting is going on.
>>738609780Everybody ITT missed the whole plot.>>738603007Oswald isn't "good" - he's just having insurance in case of competitors. Umbrella does experiments, because it's what they do.
