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why is it so bad?
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All souls likes are bad
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>>738606664
It's not, it is literally one of the best co-op games I've played in years. The only problem with the game is that it was some $40 side project with one $10 DLC. I would have gladly paid $70 if it meant more bosses, classes, maps, events, weapons, spells, etc

My friends and I would be a DLC expansion to this today if it was announced.
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It's a co-op modernized sequel to a game that bamboozled its audience when they inserted a bunch of trannies, faggots, and fetish shit into the original game so gamers got hoodwinked the first time because they trusted Miyazaki not to take the sweet baby inc money but under a different name. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice?
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>>738606664
Its not bad its just worth way too much, theres barely any content and its not randomized enough, you kind of know what to exactly expect at every single location.
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>>738606664
There's no in-game chat so you need to have friends to get the most out of the game.
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>>738606664
It was fucking great though. I stopped after reaching 1000 hours. I was skeptical at first but now I'm really looking forward to Duskbloods.
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>>738606664
It filters shitters left and right. Leaving DoN3 was a eye opening experience.
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because its elden ring
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Elden Ring if it was a real game and not dadslop
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>>738608071
The fact that there's no way to communicate outside of pings and emotes is what makes this game great though. If you have shitters with you it's up to you to carry them, and those kind of runs are the most exiting because things can go south really fast.
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>>738608297
retard
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its fine, the relic rng is a bad thing but it solves the problem of "i want to kill some souls bosses with friends/randoms who aren't shit @ the game every now and then" without having to interact with the horrid summoning system

if you're below depth 5 your opinion on the game is irrelevant and you're bad btw
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>>738609119
Oh, struck a nerve. Maybe you'll have more luck getting carried in Duskbloods, shitter.
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>>738609296
I'd actually argue that the game was kind of screwed over by the DLC/DoN relics being too strong. It was completely viable to make a weapon skill based build using one of the generic prison or night invader relics you can just buy.

It made it so that the easiest way for everyone to play was just to use double balancers + gaol/invaders.
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It literally isnt.
>Nightlords are way better than the major bosses in all souls games of the previous 10 years, other than sekiro if that counts as souls
>Normal bosses and random enemies are massively elevated by the character skills
>Get to experiment weapons and statuses and tricks without having to commit a 80 hour playthrough
>cinema attacks in the everdarks and some nightlords
>fun builds with relics
>deep of night mode is kind of shit but its a fun grind for some
>plenty of characters to play

I just wish
-relics were better and not RNG
-more real map variety like the dlc map
-deep of night was a more fleshed out gamemode with more interestibg modifiers instead of just crutching on huge damage taken
-balancer relics werent overpowered and used by half the don playerbase
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>>738609727
kinda agree but also i personally hate roguelikes with a deep passion and only play this game because its souls
in my biased opinion, anything that removes rng and adds consistency is good even if its somewhat overpowered but i see how not everyone likes this take
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>>738606664
Free to play game concept forced into a traditional game sales model (and treated like a budget side project in regards to the budget on top of that). It was never going to have enough content to justify the gameplay loop of "do this map over and over and over to slowly play a upgrade gacha."
There are some genuinely good ideas here, if FS is going to insist on open world slop then for the love of god take a page from Nightreign and make map traversal actually fun. If you're going to have retarded anime flipping bosses then give players options for closing the fucking distance.
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>>738609296
>you're below depth 5 your opinion on the game is irrelevant and you're bad btw
Just play solo and quit out/alt f4 when losing so you keep ur points
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>>738610370
i think you are fundamentally misunderstanding that part of nightreign
They didnt want a play-forever f2p style game. They want a game where you do a few dozen runs for some cool bosses then drop it once you fought everything and played as everyone

The DoN mode is literally the laziest bone that could be possibly thrown for people wanting a longer term game
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>>738610425
i dont do that weird shit, i just win games
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>>738610553
>They want a game where you do a few dozen runs for some cool bosses then drop it once you fought everything and played as everyone
The issue is that by the time the DLC dropped I was already tired of the game. I still haven't given the DLC a chance, I just don't feel like it's worth going back for.
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>>738610083
100% agreed. It's the essence of souls packed into a round of 40-50min. Fight mobs, loot, level up, beat boss.
With relics you're able to control the RNG a bit and the nightfarers feel different enough with their kits.

I just wish we would get a few more characters, weapons and enemies/bosses ties into your "better rng" statement.
Still a great game, especially if you consider it was sold at reduced price from the beginning. Worth every penny.
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>>738610683
>man this game is very fun but got stale because its lacking content compared to how much ive played
>"ok heres some new content for a handful more fresh runs and maybe some replaying afterwards"
>eh i dont think i want it actually
i will never understand this behavior. A lot of people do it but i just cant comprehend it
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There has to be a final anniversary update before From completely drops NR. I won't accept any other reality.
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>>738610839
Just burn out anon, it's not that hard to understand.
Honestly I'm having trouble starting any runs of any Souls games these days. I'm just kind of tired of the formula I guess.
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>>738606664
It's a lot of fun and I think it breaches into gaming territory that has been largely ignored (fantasy co-op, decoupling fantasy from RPGs, hero designs outside MOBAs and shooters). I think most of the problems the game has come from the fact they just threw a bunch of unrelated mechanics together and accepted it as is, but the mechanics don't all necessarily work perfectly together. They took an RPG and modded it to include every popular trend in gaming that From had been ignoring while making Souls games. But should all those elements be in one game? The thing that probably sticks out the most is the stats (if you're not a huge Soulsfag, would you even know which stats affect which weapons?), but I also just think the notion of making a PvE game with a death circle is kind of silly. Co-op games are played mostly by casual players; people who want to run around with their friends and explore the world - putting them on a timer and forcing them to play seriously sounds counterproductive.
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>>738606664
https://youtu.be/gUrYat-0X-M

The soundtrack is incredible. I do not care if it is rollroguefromslop whatever, it is awesome.
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>>738610869
everdark heolstor on the 30th, trust the plan
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>>738606664
because it's not Sekiro
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>>738611464
I like that the game is hard and forces your ass to move.
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>>738606664
Isn't it coop rogueslop? That's the only reason I refuse to play it.
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>>738609367
Learn how to write first, retarded nigger.
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>>738606664
Because its a fucking asset flip
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>>738613382
Its filled with unique new skills and the highest budget bosses fromsoft has ever made
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Man, fromdrones have no self awareness at all, imagine if it was other dev doing shit like this
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>>738613536
>imagine if it was another dev making a fun game
I thought nightreign seemed like a shitty scam but then i actually played it and realised it was kino and completely shits on base elden ring
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>>738612269
Filtered retard...
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>>738613381
Oh fuck, what a comeback. Learn to read between the lines, goylem.
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>>738613785
>completely shits on base elden ring
OK you guys are just baiting me
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>>738606664
It's crazy how much I loved DeS, DS, DS3 and even Elden Ring but I also fucking hate hearing about souls games and soulslikes since the Erdtree DLC came out. I can't take Fromsoft discussion seriously anymore, it's like when you repeat a word 100 times so it loses all meaning. I hope FS will bury the series for good. I hope I'll never see "estus" mechanic again or doors that "do not open from this side". And don't get me started on the "forgive me Zanzibart... Z-Zanzibart..." nonsense.
Give me one decent action game instead of a hundred soulslikes, please. Thank you.
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>>738606664
Filtered
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>>738608392
happy to make things interesting anon
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>>738614756
This looks so dumb, geez...
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>>738614482
Another normie cat poster with shit opinions.

Maybe post your shit for updoots on pleb it?
>love des das and 3 and ofc er
Isnt it the most basic bitch youtuber opinion.
If you loved ER, why not to mention DaS2?
>inb4 ADA
Just keep your shit opinions to yourself.
if you still get triggered by zanzi shit posting, souls likes or soul clones (not a genre, not descriptive, just normie/journalist language) you're never been a souls fan to begin with.

>just give me a action game
Go play mixtape you retarded trendchaser
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>>738615026
Just like fucking your mom. But it feels just as good.
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>>738615026
>>738615437
Got his ass there
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>>738615369
You should shut up because you're wrong + clearly butthurt for no reason + probably brown.
>why not to mention DaS2?
Because it felt forced much more than Elden Ring which at least gave us some new ideas.
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>>738606664
it's good tho
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Fun game
Jolly co-op on steroids
Circle keeps you moving, funneling you all back together even if you fuck off in different directions to start.
It gets made clear that working together is massively beneficial but doesn't discourage short breakaway solo trips
Relics keep builds interesting, even if the meta drifts towards stale bullshit, the option is there and its decently varied. And they're RNG enough to punish absurd min/maxers who feel they need it instead of working with what they have. Yeah, it's meant to frustrate them.
DoN is actually a great challenge and skill filter
Traversal is fun and the char abilities are unique enough to make them distinct from each other.
It's a great game for just dropping in and out of. Play for an hour or two between other things.
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>>738606664
i really don't like the running around like a headless chicken aspect of it, I had a lot of fun with it gameplay-wise but that's kind of the filter for me. and I never bought the DLC because people kept telling me the map was shit and confusing like a big Noklateo
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Got friends playing this game, some of them very good players. Apparently I have 1500 hours now fighting same around 10 roster of bosses. Something unique happens every single game and when you thought you had it all figured out, the game shows you that you did not.
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your heroes
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>>738618485
I'm proud of you ranjeet.
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>>738618669
hope you get cancer
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>>738614482
>I love soulslikes and hate annoying retards on the internet
https://youtu.be/NG1XgL8m_mo
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>>738616110
>S-s-shut up, you're wrong.
>you're buthurt
>you're brown
I'm tired of niggers like you who just repeat reddit takes in here. I'm from a 99% white country, and not those desert coons who think they are white adjacent.
>felt forced
Are you a real female or just try to larp as one, tranny? I asked specifically about DaS2 because a lot of things from DaS 2 are in ER, and real souls vets say ER being DaS2 2.
Also, if DaS2 feels forced, why doesn't das3 you mongrel? That's right, because of your fefees.
I'm not giving my opions on my feelings, I'm giving you the raw facts.
Go suck journo dicks, you don't play games at all.
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>>738606664
Because it was tge final and ultimate proof From was fully compromised. Instead of pursuing life ruining legal action against the seamless coop fags they went and made their own cooptranny abomination instead.
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>>738606664
Because you're a friendless loser.
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>>738619526
You sound very jewish and oblivious to the japanese state of mind. Thankfully not the whole world has the ill mindset of yours.



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