why is it so bad?
All souls likes are bad
>>738606664It's not, it is literally one of the best co-op games I've played in years. The only problem with the game is that it was some $40 side project with one $10 DLC. I would have gladly paid $70 if it meant more bosses, classes, maps, events, weapons, spells, etcMy friends and I would be a DLC expansion to this today if it was announced.
It's a co-op modernized sequel to a game that bamboozled its audience when they inserted a bunch of trannies, faggots, and fetish shit into the original game so gamers got hoodwinked the first time because they trusted Miyazaki not to take the sweet baby inc money but under a different name. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice?
>>738606664Its not bad its just worth way too much, theres barely any content and its not randomized enough, you kind of know what to exactly expect at every single location.
>>738606664There's no in-game chat so you need to have friends to get the most out of the game.
>>738606664It was fucking great though. I stopped after reaching 1000 hours. I was skeptical at first but now I'm really looking forward to Duskbloods.
>>738606664It filters shitters left and right. Leaving DoN3 was a eye opening experience.
because its elden ring
Elden Ring if it was a real game and not dadslop
>>738608071The fact that there's no way to communicate outside of pings and emotes is what makes this game great though. If you have shitters with you it's up to you to carry them, and those kind of runs are the most exiting because things can go south really fast.
>>738608297retard
its fine, the relic rng is a bad thing but it solves the problem of "i want to kill some souls bosses with friends/randoms who aren't shit @ the game every now and then" without having to interact with the horrid summoning systemif you're below depth 5 your opinion on the game is irrelevant and you're bad btw
>>738609119Oh, struck a nerve. Maybe you'll have more luck getting carried in Duskbloods, shitter.
>>738609296I'd actually argue that the game was kind of screwed over by the DLC/DoN relics being too strong. It was completely viable to make a weapon skill based build using one of the generic prison or night invader relics you can just buy.It made it so that the easiest way for everyone to play was just to use double balancers + gaol/invaders.
It literally isnt.>Nightlords are way better than the major bosses in all souls games of the previous 10 years, other than sekiro if that counts as souls>Normal bosses and random enemies are massively elevated by the character skills>Get to experiment weapons and statuses and tricks without having to commit a 80 hour playthrough>cinema attacks in the everdarks and some nightlords>fun builds with relics>deep of night mode is kind of shit but its a fun grind for some>plenty of characters to playI just wish -relics were better and not RNG-more real map variety like the dlc map-deep of night was a more fleshed out gamemode with more interestibg modifiers instead of just crutching on huge damage taken-balancer relics werent overpowered and used by half the don playerbase
>>738609727kinda agree but also i personally hate roguelikes with a deep passion and only play this game because its soulsin my biased opinion, anything that removes rng and adds consistency is good even if its somewhat overpowered but i see how not everyone likes this take
>>738606664Free to play game concept forced into a traditional game sales model (and treated like a budget side project in regards to the budget on top of that). It was never going to have enough content to justify the gameplay loop of "do this map over and over and over to slowly play a upgrade gacha."There are some genuinely good ideas here, if FS is going to insist on open world slop then for the love of god take a page from Nightreign and make map traversal actually fun. If you're going to have retarded anime flipping bosses then give players options for closing the fucking distance.
>>738609296>you're below depth 5 your opinion on the game is irrelevant and you're bad btwJust play solo and quit out/alt f4 when losing so you keep ur points
>>738610370i think you are fundamentally misunderstanding that part of nightreignThey didnt want a play-forever f2p style game. They want a game where you do a few dozen runs for some cool bosses then drop it once you fought everything and played as everyoneThe DoN mode is literally the laziest bone that could be possibly thrown for people wanting a longer term game
>>738610425i dont do that weird shit, i just win games
>>738610553>They want a game where you do a few dozen runs for some cool bosses then drop it once you fought everything and played as everyoneThe issue is that by the time the DLC dropped I was already tired of the game. I still haven't given the DLC a chance, I just don't feel like it's worth going back for.
>>738610083100% agreed. It's the essence of souls packed into a round of 40-50min. Fight mobs, loot, level up, beat boss.With relics you're able to control the RNG a bit and the nightfarers feel different enough with their kits. I just wish we would get a few more characters, weapons and enemies/bosses ties into your "better rng" statement. Still a great game, especially if you consider it was sold at reduced price from the beginning. Worth every penny.
>>738610683>man this game is very fun but got stale because its lacking content compared to how much ive played>"ok heres some new content for a handful more fresh runs and maybe some replaying afterwards">eh i dont think i want it actuallyi will never understand this behavior. A lot of people do it but i just cant comprehend it
There has to be a final anniversary update before From completely drops NR. I won't accept any other reality.
>>738610839Just burn out anon, it's not that hard to understand.Honestly I'm having trouble starting any runs of any Souls games these days. I'm just kind of tired of the formula I guess.
>>738606664It's a lot of fun and I think it breaches into gaming territory that has been largely ignored (fantasy co-op, decoupling fantasy from RPGs, hero designs outside MOBAs and shooters). I think most of the problems the game has come from the fact they just threw a bunch of unrelated mechanics together and accepted it as is, but the mechanics don't all necessarily work perfectly together. They took an RPG and modded it to include every popular trend in gaming that From had been ignoring while making Souls games. But should all those elements be in one game? The thing that probably sticks out the most is the stats (if you're not a huge Soulsfag, would you even know which stats affect which weapons?), but I also just think the notion of making a PvE game with a death circle is kind of silly. Co-op games are played mostly by casual players; people who want to run around with their friends and explore the world - putting them on a timer and forcing them to play seriously sounds counterproductive.
>>738606664https://youtu.be/gUrYat-0X-MThe soundtrack is incredible. I do not care if it is rollroguefromslop whatever, it is awesome.
>>738610869everdark heolstor on the 30th, trust the plan
>>738606664because it's not Sekiro
>>738611464I like that the game is hard and forces your ass to move.
>>738606664Isn't it coop rogueslop? That's the only reason I refuse to play it.
>>738609367Learn how to write first, retarded nigger.
>>738606664Because its a fucking asset flip
>>738613382Its filled with unique new skills and the highest budget bosses fromsoft has ever made
Man, fromdrones have no self awareness at all, imagine if it was other dev doing shit like this
>>738613536>imagine if it was another dev making a fun gameI thought nightreign seemed like a shitty scam but then i actually played it and realised it was kino and completely shits on base elden ring
>>738612269Filtered retard...
>>738613381Oh fuck, what a comeback. Learn to read between the lines, goylem.
>>738613785>completely shits on base elden ringOK you guys are just baiting me
>>738606664It's crazy how much I loved DeS, DS, DS3 and even Elden Ring but I also fucking hate hearing about souls games and soulslikes since the Erdtree DLC came out. I can't take Fromsoft discussion seriously anymore, it's like when you repeat a word 100 times so it loses all meaning. I hope FS will bury the series for good. I hope I'll never see "estus" mechanic again or doors that "do not open from this side". And don't get me started on the "forgive me Zanzibart... Z-Zanzibart..." nonsense.Give me one decent action game instead of a hundred soulslikes, please. Thank you.
>>738606664Filtered
>>738608392happy to make things interesting anon
>>738614756This looks so dumb, geez...
>>738614482Another normie cat poster with shit opinions.Maybe post your shit for updoots on pleb it?>love des das and 3 and ofc er Isnt it the most basic bitch youtuber opinion.If you loved ER, why not to mention DaS2?>inb4 ADAJust keep your shit opinions to yourself.if you still get triggered by zanzi shit posting, souls likes or soul clones (not a genre, not descriptive, just normie/journalist language) you're never been a souls fan to begin with.>just give me a action gameGo play mixtape you retarded trendchaser
>>738615026Just like fucking your mom. But it feels just as good.
>>738615026>>738615437Got his ass there
>>738615369You should shut up because you're wrong + clearly butthurt for no reason + probably brown.>why not to mention DaS2?Because it felt forced much more than Elden Ring which at least gave us some new ideas.
>>738606664it's good tho
Fun gameJolly co-op on steroidsCircle keeps you moving, funneling you all back together even if you fuck off in different directions to start. It gets made clear that working together is massively beneficial but doesn't discourage short breakaway solo tripsRelics keep builds interesting, even if the meta drifts towards stale bullshit, the option is there and its decently varied. And they're RNG enough to punish absurd min/maxers who feel they need it instead of working with what they have. Yeah, it's meant to frustrate them.DoN is actually a great challenge and skill filterTraversal is fun and the char abilities are unique enough to make them distinct from each other.It's a great game for just dropping in and out of. Play for an hour or two between other things.
>>738606664i really don't like the running around like a headless chicken aspect of it, I had a lot of fun with it gameplay-wise but that's kind of the filter for me. and I never bought the DLC because people kept telling me the map was shit and confusing like a big Noklateo
Got friends playing this game, some of them very good players. Apparently I have 1500 hours now fighting same around 10 roster of bosses. Something unique happens every single game and when you thought you had it all figured out, the game shows you that you did not.
your heroes
>>738618485I'm proud of you ranjeet.
>>738618669hope you get cancer
>>738614482>I love soulslikes and hate annoying retards on the internethttps://youtu.be/NG1XgL8m_mo
>>738616110>S-s-shut up, you're wrong.>you're buthurt>you're brownI'm tired of niggers like you who just repeat reddit takes in here. I'm from a 99% white country, and not those desert coons who think they are white adjacent.>felt forcedAre you a real female or just try to larp as one, tranny? I asked specifically about DaS2 because a lot of things from DaS 2 are in ER, and real souls vets say ER being DaS2 2.Also, if DaS2 feels forced, why doesn't das3 you mongrel? That's right, because of your fefees.I'm not giving my opions on my feelings, I'm giving you the raw facts. Go suck journo dicks, you don't play games at all.
>>738606664Because it was tge final and ultimate proof From was fully compromised. Instead of pursuing life ruining legal action against the seamless coop fags they went and made their own cooptranny abomination instead.
>>738606664Because you're a friendless loser.
>>738619526You sound very jewish and oblivious to the japanese state of mind. Thankfully not the whole world has the ill mindset of yours.