second phase of aeonglass leaked
>>738607485I HATE DEFECTI HATE DEFECTI HATE DEFECTI WILL NEVER PICK RANDOM IN MULTI AGAIN
>>738607667my deck was shit as well, one of those runsshouldve probably been more scared of elites
>>738607667>>738607834Gonna cry, wokies?
>>738607834I hate everything about defect, I'm going to write F2 to ask for allowing to exclude certain characters from random because I'm NEVER EVER EVER EVER AGAIN playing that stupid rust bucket
>>738608194the entire game is woke tho
>Miniature Tent>Meat CleaverIf I fail this run I officially hand in my gay card.
Fellas, is it gay to love a gem?
>>738608459huh TIL
>>738608765every time I play gem it either hits Battle Trance or Expect a fight
What in the goddamn
>>738608872Eidolon value
>>738608872>turn 15
wooooow
hostin defect supremacysteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244612384789/76561198012392867
a starting relic glam card carried my whole run yet again
>Fresnel Lens early act 1>Brightest Flame on the Hologram character>Miniature Tent>CleaverGood fucking lord this was a complete snooze. I was just cycling darkness orbs for lulz.>Oh no I only have 1 energy left>Oh wait, Hologram back Brightest Flame into solveYawn. This is the first time I've ever actually seen Brightest Flame in about 80 hours of playtime btw.
>>738608765>gem completely ignores bound>other, far worse cards turn into curses the instant this fight startsHate
>>738609931Stampede used to ignore both bound and Pact's End requirements. But turns out this worthless power was just too good so they "fixed" both interactions
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244613548176/76561198801173979 A10
>>738608872Anon? Your Compact+?
>>7386104302/4
>>7386097842/4
>tfw you don't get a single hellraiserTriplicating mayhem and stone armor was pretty fun but didn't work out for me in the end.I should have taken the sai instead of the spiked bracer
>>7386104303/4
>>738609674necro sucks at this guy to be fair. artifact fucks up a lot of her damage.
no idea how I managed to win desu
Is stoke actually viable here with dark embrace, X2 bloodletting, brand, thinking ahead, and a little card draw? Or should I just take a second brand for consistency
>>738611263Shrimp is nuts.
>>738611406I've literally never built an exhaust deck before
>>738611474>>738611406yes. exhaust synergies are extremely powerful.
>>738610709I had a run with Hellraiser, Mayhem, and Soup. Shit went so crazy. Yeah Sai is so good.
>>738611474Dude Crimson Mantle ranks among the best cards in the game, and Brand is good in basically all Ironclad decks.
>>738611526It might have been a dumb question but I've always avoided the archetype in sts1, and exhausting the carefully sculpted deck for a random hand feels like a trap even if it works in theory
>>738611651yeah, most new players see this and ask why anyone would ever want to remove cards from their deck. turns out it just works.
>>738611409I had Shrimp on The Bomb in one of my runs. It's basically free 13(16) damage to all enemies for 3 turns.
>>738607485don't carenot playing woke game
>>738611756bring it back you bastardIt was good but not "Ancient Pyramid/Snecko Eye" good
>>738611409Shrimp is always an option when I don't want it and never when I do. I've had one run so far where I took it with end of days+. So satisfying just instantly nuking half of the fights
>>738611409
>when literally none of the ancient options synergizes with your deck
>>738611929It was good when you had a decent chance of seeing snecko or 4th energy in your run so you could afford to take heavy skills.
>>738609856Easily best neow relic. Took it on Parry and took a few forge cards including sword sage. Turns out the game is really easy when you can do 60 damage and 60 block for 2 mana
>>738611929they should also bring back Clothesline, and change Dark Embrace back into an Uncommon. It's ridiculous how often you have runs where you don't see a single Blood Wall or Flame Barrier. Ironclad needs more cards that activate when you exhaust them, like Sentinel was. Howl from Beyond is fucking garbage and only activates ONCE.
>>738611406Stoke is viable in general. It's a good outlet for bloodletting because you can exhaust your shit cards into random upgraded cards. You can also randomly stumble upon an Ashen Strike that, after your stokes, is now doing a zillion fucking damage. It seems mediocre at first but for comparison I'd say it's definitely stronger than brand, especially in a deck like this with no self harm payoffs like inferno or rupture.
>>738612320when that happens I usually just think of block consistency, draw manipulation, or just more power so I can farm more elites for their relics
>>738612320it's tiresome
>>738613304relax goes with every deck :)
>>738613304Relax is quite good. Especially when you upgrade them. Tooth is low risk as long as you don't pick all attacks or all blocks. You'll likely upgrade that rare card reward you just got.
>>738613304>trash>garbage>pickable with extremely unlikely synergygreat design choices. 10/10 megacrit better hire more activists
>>738613437>>738613489it's not even enough for that beettle to stagger him
>>738613304Tooth is okay. Use it to remove cards that are bad but would be okay if added back upgraded like starter cards.
>>738613304act 3 made up for it
pael releasing a big stinky wet fart in front of ironclad's face giving him the eye
words cannot describe what I'd like to do to this silent
>>738610430ggs rip reagent and iron
>>738615267ggdeck duplication couldnt have showed up at a better time
>>738615267My ass could only find Pillar of Creation at that last fucking shop and GUARDS only halfway into act 3. I feel like I was a massive burden
What would you pick here boys?
>>738615530wave will do a lot of early work for you
>>738615530iron wave
>>738615530drum of battle and then look for energy and keep deck slim
>>738615486you keep giving vuln on enemies for me to gain strength.one thing I don't understand, WHY SILENT KEPT PLAYING EVERY SINGLE SKILL POSSIBLE ON SUBJECT FIRST PHASE
>>738615530drum of battle for 4 card draw but only if you have a way to exhaust it
>>738615641many such cases
>>738615641to spice things up
>>738615641>>738615802>mfw I had no cards left to play and the silent kept scaling the boss' damage that I was powerless to mitigate
>ironclad deck that only has a couple pommel strike+, two flame barrier+, bloodletting, offering>beat the act 2 boss because of a ritual potion (I had 0 scaling)>man I need something to scale into the endgame>boss reward>hellraiserohhaven't played a hellraiser deck since like day 2 of the game
I wasnt frequenting /v/ the last weeks. whats this about Anita whore working on this game? qrd?
>>738615641lmao it was funny sry
>>738615934>cant just search for anita + slay the spireintentionally dense or is it the a1 silent?
>>738615860my starting hand was 3 strikes, bloodletting and stoke
>>738616116I'm just lazy and want to be spoonfed
>>738616285I'll serve my cock with a spoon and that's as far as I'm willing to goTake it or leave it
>>738616224Ironclad I don't feel so good
>>738610207F2 it to MegaCrit
>>738616358thats kinda gay
Man I was hoping for soup to farm a bunch of strikes with juggling for my pstrike. Sad.
>>7386155301 cost dash is fine too
>>738613304Fuck relax unless you have toxix egg, ripple basic, or intimidating helm. 15 block is just not enough for 3 energy.
>>738611406>>738611474>>738612651oh god oh fuck
>>738616509on some runs you just want a bit of block and some energy to help you through the early act, especially if the other options are also not great
>>738613734Regent player, I like Pael's eye. Even with no synergy just skipping a bad draw is really strong and fun to play around.
>>738616385funniest thing, I'd likely survive that fight if I drew inferno before Crimson mantle. Demon tongue was saving me 1 hp from Mantle instead of 3 from 3 Inferno I had on me, that's what killed me in the end lmao
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244622296822/76561197997192985let us compare and compliment our decks
>>738616608>controllerwhat the fuck
>>738616704ick on eck
>>738616509I haven't liked relax. Even if I can play it I run out of relaxes, maybe it could add 15 of them.
>>738616639I liked it when I started the game but after I got to a10 it just seemed way too weak. 15 block for 3 energy makes you take a ton of damage in act 2 even if the next turn is nice.
>>738616608>stoke ate feel no painit's over, billions must self harm
>>738616509>>738616770relax is good if you can play it from Havoc or Cascade
>>738616871Yeah it's obviously fine if you can circumvent the cost too. Forgot about that. It was pretty good in a run I had with mummified hand and some powers where I could force it to reduce to 0.
>>738616509I’ve had a Silent run where I used Relax with upgraded Shadowmeld to gain 30 block with next turn setup, but yeah by itself, 3 cost 15 block is a tough ask.
so close to the "50 - 50" again
Almost lost this run because I bottom decked subroutine in my power focused deck that lacked energy. But music box with splash saved my ass. Kinda wish I trimmed the deck down and made that my main focus with holograms but I realized how good the interaction was too late to pivot my deck. When the 0 cost attack from splash gets copied by music box it also costs 0. Got me some pretty crazy turns like playing 2 bludgeon+ for 0 on turn 1 with marbles.
>>738617575Forgot pic. My other options with vaaku were awful (enthralled and fog) that faggot almost killed my run
A10 again steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244623650617/76561198801173979
>>738616704I play with controller from my couch most of the time. It's faster than dragging cards but slower than using keyboard hotkeys
lobby when
So Fishing Line is the best Neow artifact now, right? It seems really good.
>>738618631It's terrible. It just means like 1 random upgrade in act 1 unless you suicidally farm hard hallways
>>738618631the glam one is the best, either a strong card earlygame card or a game-winning highroll if you get lucky
>>738618631>Upgrade a random cardEven if you take a card every combat in Act 1 you're pretty likely to hit a Strike or Defend (and early on the cards you get aren't that likely to be stuff you really care about upgrading), and if it's a card you DO want to upgrade you'll just upgrade it at a campfire thus reducing the amount of potentially good hits for the relicSand Castle I will gamble on if I have some decent cards and removed something last act, but not that even though they probably average out to the same amount of strength
>>738615530Depends on the map. If you have a high value dangerous path, iron wave. If you have a low value safe path, drumt. got jebaited by glam drum into 4 elites and splatted
>>738618631lowkirkenuinely worse than talisman to be quite tbqh with you fampai
>>738616686beautiful decks,gg
>>738619797our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our decks, especially since they're a good size and all
>pick rare start>get two curses
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244628098221/76561198091556171hosting
>>7386214632/4
>>7386214633/42 minutes to start
>>738621330strength loss doesn't effect attacks by your summon
>>738621604no shit but you only start with one osty attack and you cannot afford having 4 damage strikes
>>738621664i had this start once and it wasn't that bad. you really only have to worry when you get a scaling enemy. summon and unleash solves everything else.
does anyone else just fucking hate the necrobinder? the cards just so bland and boring. every card reward is a pain in the ass because they're all so dull and feel like they do nothing on their own.
>>738621330I had a run in multiplayer where I had Pael offer Clone and I had this, so I pivoted hard into turtling and Osty attacks while 8 Shared Fate helped the others
>>738622068oh no not the mid damage commons (death march might as well be a floor 1 damage common)! i can't believe necro is the only character to have this!
>>738622068>SnapAdding Retain doesn't require hitting or Osty, so other characters that get this via Splash or similar methods get a 1 cost adding Retain card instead. For Necro you can add Retain to high-cost shit that do not come with or gain Retain normally, like End of Days>Death MarchSoul spam, Silent Speedster, and so on. Speaking of Silent, this is basically Necro's Memento Mori>ScourgeThis is the Pommel Strike / Backflip / Glow / Coolheaded of Necrobinder, enough said
>>738622068Skill issue
>get a good Defect run off the ground>the big bitch in act 3 offers me glam dust>pick up 2 copies of glam Capacitor+Why is there a limit on orb slots? If you're OP enough that you have like 12 orb slots, you're OP enough that you're going to win the run regardless, so let me have the maximum amount of fun with it.
Why does this game have the LGBTQ+ tag on Steam?
>>738623180i think the devs are seething that their game is never going to have a positive steam rating ever again.
>Not Recommended>298.0 hrs on record (164.0 hrs at review time)
>>738611860
>>738623964>putting clone on a card that doesnt work when theres 10000 of itcringe and not gamblepilled, hes doing you a favor
>>738623180because you, the player, are a fag
>>738621463my deck was kinda shit but tanking was fun, only took a decent hit once
>>738616608
>Put shrymp on not yetWow it's like having a better black blood!
>>738624652>Tank without Barricade or Unmovable.Ballsy. But the Debilitate + weak stacks helped there.
It's Big Bang time
>>738624837Debilitate is probably my favorite card in the game, especially when you're able to play it as much as you were. I'm honestly surprised I didn't get damage leader because of it + Tracking
>>738624837a single body slam is the only signal I need to go all in on defensebut the gorget and stone plating helped
>>738617531one more...
>>738625851>sub 1:1 K/DKWAB
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>>738626391
Tress is so fucking strong when it high rolls HOLY this game played itself
>>738626569steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244633771693/76561198091556171
>>738626626Happened again.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244634285712/76561198091556171weird, last try
>>7386268512/4
>>7386268513/4
>>738615934This should explain everything
>>738615934I loved STS1 but I have no reason to defend this shit
>>738619157Well, even an upgraded strike or defend isn't exactly useless for act 1 and early act 2. I don't mind if it hits those once or twice, I can get rid of the non-upgraded ones, and it's highly unlikely that I would manage to remove all strikes and defends from my deck anyway.So call it 4 upgrades to cards you actually care about. Compare it to Silver Crucible, which is more front loaded but comes with a hefty drawback. I'd say it's pretty well balanced.
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244636933131/76561198091556171rehost
I can't believe our host fucking exploded
>0 gold exactlyYou love to see it
almost had a cool osty build with danse and high five but i forgot i took paels tears and didn't realize until i was struggling in the last combat before the boss then i died to the boss because not enough hp to cover me somehow bricking all my defends to land turn 1 and 4 instead of the first two turns hes attacking.
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Man, that must have been the best Fur coat pattern I've seen. Only 1 actual fight, and in a ? room.
gg on lizard, boys
ggs nice whistle pick
>>738613304People seriously undervalue Pael's eye, you need to have a good understanding of how your deck functions, but being able to fix bad turns or get rid of statuses is extremely usefulIt's no Pael's blood though
>the 3 ancient options aren’t just bad, they are detrimentalWhy are you like this tanx?
Is Darv even real? I’ve literally only seen him twice in 80+ hours of gameplay
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244643901773/76561198801173979 hosting last one of the night for me
>>738618631No it’s completely variable since you actually need a power to other high value cardGlam only replays on the first use
>>7386343242/4
>>7386343243/4 starting soon
>paels tooth with minitiature cannon when my whole deck so far is strike, two defiles, and veilpiercerfeel like energy would still be better and i don't know how i scale this to act 3 unless i roll reaper form but fuck it would be fun
>1-cost 32 damagestrike build
>Double pearl>Second floor shop>Toxic egg>Shit gets silly really fast as I get Corrosive Wave, two Adrenaline+, unironically pick fucking Outbreak (Accelerant where are you?)>Smoke four fucking elites in act 2>Nonu gives me giga card draw with two enchanted Adrenalines>Cruise through the entirety of Act 3 applying 100 poison, gaining 100 block. Took lietarlly zero fucking damageThe game essentially played itself. It was ridiculous, and actually a little boring, but hey, once every full moon you get a run like this and you have fun.
>foul potion on fake merchant gives you 300 goldholy
>>738607485Time's up? or not yet?
>1 cost do 64scaling has been achieved
>>738637113devilish
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE HAD HIMCONNECTION TIME OUTHOST PLEASE REHOSTI have 7 Strength down pot + 1 energy & 2 draw pot if you guys need either of them
>>738634324you guys okay? need a rehost?
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244648767850/76561198801173979 rehost
>>738638456YES PLEASEWE HAD AEONGLASS DEAD TO RIGHTS THEREGET ME BACK IN
ggs gotta be patient with the hourglass boy
Grand Finale carry, amazing runThanks for saving us with your Glam No Escape start, Necro. We'd be screwed in some of these fights otherwise because trying to loop Grand Finale alone was not doing enough, spectacular as it was to see happen over and over again>>738638891I don't have it easy when it comes to patience most times, sorry
How can they make game challenging for top1% autists without ruining it for everyone else
>>738639995Make A10 hard, make the rest easy
>>738640268Chinese would be extremely angry if they did this
>>738640268But that is the case currently>>738640349But that is the case currently
>had Suppress+>had Mind Blast+>enter act 3>Music Box>get the deck duplication ? event>reflexively do not duplicate because it fucks you over 90% of the timeFUCKFUCKI was waiting for this exact scenario and I fucked it up
I got a very girthy scythe
>>738640404Wrong, on certain characters very good players have 95% winrate. For them a10 is too easy
Dropped this game for CZN.>gacha>animeYeah but its the better game now
>>738640436unironically reload the floor
>>738640629I was autopiloting so hard it was too late
>>738640612Funny, I dropped CZN a few months ago, why do you say "now"?
>mummified hand just magically knows to hit leg sweep every timeI feel so spoon-fed>>738640612This feels like one of those parodies of WoW UI add-ons from 2010
>>738640612>gachaKill yourself
>>738640612good riddance
Regent card reviewVenerate - 1 mana do nothingMeteor - 1 mana (paid in advance) 1 strike throw shitty potionHidden Cache - 1 mana do nothing, turn 2 do more nothingGlow - Lose 1 manaCollision course - 1 mana deal 11 or -1 card laterCrash landing - 1 mana deal 21 brick your entire deckSpectrum shift - 2 mana get good cards insteadQuasar - 1 mana (paid in advance) get a good card insteadCharge - 1 mana transform your deck into better cards, your friends kill themselves rather than be associated with you.Guards - 2 mana remove your hand and pretend you are playing better deckConvergence - 1 mana do nothing, get 1 mana back later as apologyKnow thy place - throw shitty potion, -1 cardProphesize - draw 6 do nothing because you have no mana retardVoid form - download mesugooki mod, pretend you are playing better character, jerk your tiny penis to her feet.never do anything retarded chudjack character. overrated because retarded potato youtubers worse at other ones.
>>738640715Sortie, its slay the spire mode but better
>>738641693Every time game has damage numbers going over 10k it means devs don’t balance it and just give players bigger number = gooder
>>738641852Oh you don't see those numbers in sortie, that's for the "save data" content, basically perfect decks with perfect synergyIn sortie the highest you see is around 5K ish?
who hostin?
>>738623180>>738623264If you're interested in the actual reason, it's because chuds have been giving it that tag with their pathetic protest reviews (to warn other retards that the game is dark woke) and steam just updates the tags based on numbers.>>738624587this is also true
>>738641928The only anime card game I played and enjoyed was Library of Ruina. But even then they were caving into retard crowd demands, nerfing every single encounter, including one where you got locked out of equipment you used on different floors(actually forcing you to think how you will divide your best decks instead of bringing A team to beat everything), changed Argalia deck despite it being most interesting set of cards they made and made being drooling retard a viable way to play(single character instead of team)This absolutely soured my experience with any anime style sts-like games
>>738640612Get the CZN mod
Why did the jannies keep deleting the Anita threads. I was having fun.
anyone up for a lobby?
>>738644176host it
>>738644262was planning to, asked if it was worth hosting oneBETA BRANCH A6 steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244657250218/76561198143673966
>>7386442952/4
>>7386442953/4
>pick Hefty Tablet>shop immediately after first fight>decide to buy a Shockwave instead of removing Injury>upgrade Shockwave>next shop>remove Injury>purchase REND>upgrade Rend>Event: Symbiote>Deal 27 damage>Deals 12 additional damage for each unique debuff on the enemy>On top of VulnerableHOLY
>>738644295me each combat
why Ironclad feet don't look even close to how good they are in Stomp art? This is almost as bad as bandaging Silent feet
>>738640612the second sts2 finally dropped i uninstalled this shit and I haven't looked back
I'm writing F2 because this bothers me.They clearly UNDERSTOOD what needs to be done in camp model but combat model legs look like trash
>>738644295GJ lads, who the hell nuked the boss for 1.6k
>>738645927necro with cloned hang
>>738645934didn't you have something like 16x hangs
>>738646091wasnt me
>>738646091me neither
Why Chinese rioted to remove doormaker instead of demanding Silent to look like this, are they stupid?>inb4 they are not pedosActually they are
Some runs genuinely baffle me. Floor 5 double nibbit 100 fucking hp with armor ups and insane damage into fucking this floor 6. Go fuck yourselves Megacrit
>>738649258what, you don't find hallway fight hitting you for 25 turn 1 to be fine?
>>738649258defend defend enfeebled and its ez
>>738649258your fault for taking wing boots
>>738650220wing boots can be great but not if you use it to path into b2b advanced hallways fights
>>738650220yeah that too>takes wingboots>walks into every hallway fight
If Neow doesn't offer me a rare card award, I'm not playing
Is musicbox regent good? Maybe.
>>738650265>>738650275Just checked the seed.The other two options are greed (the shops are at the end of the act) and booming conch (does nothing on hallways).The first event was a hallway fight obviously, that delicious 10%The layout is pretty garbage too. Anon could've played it a bit differently blowing all his boot charges to not get raped but the seed sucks.
I didn't expect such a thick atmosphere from a card game but I was pleasantly surprised, played one run with the Ironclad and the game seems very good, I'll let them cook for longer before sinking my teeth in, still have things to do in StS1
>>738654237regentwink...
>>738654237giwtwm
>>738654237Gayest post on 4chan
>>738654237change Regent to mesugaki and you have my attention
>>738649061Have you seen the chinese modding discords/telegrams?They're all bimbos/blacked.Only the ones who post on twitter do lolis.>>738649258Act 1: Only the first three floors are guaranteed easy encountersAct 2: Only the first two floors are guaranteed easy encountersAct 3: Only the first floor is a guaranteed easy encounter.After that the game can pull any encounter from any non-elite encounter from that act's pool, even the bullshit hard stuff.Floor 3 hunter killer is an asshole.
Someone host
>>738655786ew women
I lost with a claw build, the game is bad.
EARLY MORNING A10 HOSTIN FOR THE MOSTIN:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244678661703/76561197977064021
>>7386562583/4
I'm still at A2, does that prevent me from joining higher ascension multiplayer games?
>>738656258ah crap too late
>>738656258game crashed, I can't rejoin...
>>738656258rehost
REHOSTIN FOR THE MOSTIN:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244679948614/76561197977064021
>>738656690Games already started butYou can join any , everyone will be placed at the difficulty of the lowest player
If a goopy card is exhausted outside of playing let's say by a fiend fire or true grit, does it still come back?
>>738653382music box+bombardment+void form is funny
>>738657397
Every time I'm going for an osty attack build I'm getting my bony ass rimmed.
https://www.nexusmods.com/slaythespire2/mods/858is there any way to get this mod without making an account?
>>738656917I'm waging right now so I can't join for another 2 hours sadly, I was just wondering.
>>738657771because it's shit bro
>>738657871just create a burner gmail
>>738657771bone flute is essentially mandatory to even try and even with bone flute its difficult to scale up to act 3 bosses. shit needs too much energy and draw.
>>738657871https://filester.me/d/4GOMvZE
regent restoring the ability of clad to think and function like he did before the curse through the power of true love and gay sex and then they both show up to vakuu's chamber as a dynamic duo and teach him a lesson
>>738659619thanks amigo
>enter Aeonglass fight with 15 HP from a bad Queen fight with my goofy Defect deck>procceed to farm his statuses with compact and win easilyLeL bring back door
>>738660797dont worry, they're going to add some equally annoying and 'not fun' gimmicks to aeon glass, just give them some time, they hate fun
GG A10 ain't nothin
>>738660797
>>738656891>GG>do nothing>damage leader
>>738660848>Generates artifact(x players) every turn
>>738656258>>738656891>>738660901gg mostin team!Ironchad carried the team at the end, while I (Silent) got stunted up to act3,I went to the end of act 2 with 5 shiv cards while making a shiv build, the only saving grace was Knife Trap given by an act 3 elite...
>awakened one... punishes me for playing powers? wtf they're limiting the type of deck i'm allowed to play???>time eater... punishes me for playing cards? i'm not even allowed to play my cards?Can't meme bout donu and deca because they were unequivocally easy
>>738661030donu and deca were a scaling check
>>738661030Awakened one had strategy, you could play powers but you had to deal with it getting stronger, you could also play them without any issues after it revives.Time eater sucks.Donu and Deca were fine.
does game audio have a slight buzzing fuzzy noise in the background for anyone else
how does this work?
I got time for another A10 multi run, get in here homos:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244688802659/76561197977064021
>>738661308>Time eater sucks.
>>7386613713/4
>>738661006>Wail>Enfeebling Touch>Dark Shackles>Mangle>infinite block from BeaconOur team was staked to deal with everything with zero problems that's not phase one Subject that for some reason always appears as boss in multiplayer games, hmmmmmmmmm...
>>73866135362 +5str x2(pen) = 134
A6 BETA BRANCHsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244690932065/76561198143673966
>>7386627562/4.Do we start or wait, Sir random
>>738661371Re-hoststeam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244692612125/76561197977064021
What solving block and star generation, but finding no damage does to motherfucker.
this is cruel and unusual
>>738664603It's cruel.Not unusual.US Supreme Court has said that's fine, just can't be both.
>>738664603Why are shop prices rigged? I noticed if you save scum with courier the prices are different depending on purchase order. It still always fucks you over from buying certain combinations or that last relic.
>>738665682The seed progresses to the next number after each purchase. It doesn't preroll the cost of the next item.
>>738659619Good mod. Now just needs mesugaki regent and sexy silent
ggs
someone tell that nigger navegreed to stop talking like a homosexual with his annoying as fuck vocal fry
>>738665817that doesn't answer my question. Why are the prices rigged to be just barley more than the gold you have left?
Can someone tell me how I actually git gud at this game? Is it just trial and error + luck?
>>738666423Understand which cards are good against what. So best watch or read what pros say how to play given character
>>738666563>Understand which cards are good against whatYeah I get that, but if I never know what I'm gonna be up against how can I know?
>>738666705Enemy pools is not very big, you will quickly learn what you can find on each act or just check wiki for encounters
>>738666705you build your deck in a way that it can handle any of the potential threats ahead
>>738666705The enemies that can appear depend on the area and floor number. Check the Bestiary to see each act's enemies. Check wiki for the exact enemies in each floor range.More important is preparing for the boss and potential elites(also area dependant). If you're fighting elites in act 1, you want AOE for Phantasmal gardener or Phrog Parasite. Act 2 you probably want draw for Entomancer.
>>738666705Enemy groups are all act-specific, and they always show up in the same groups and 99% of the time they do the same attack patterns (some enemies are slightly more random). There are 3 Elite encounters per act and you can't get a certain Elite fight twice before fighting the other two. Also if you look at the map or the top bar it tells you what the boss of the act is.So you need to make choices to become strong enough to deal with each room potentially being any of these, while growing strong enough to beat the boss. It's about overarching decisions instead of moment to moment ones. So right now identify what non-boss fights you tend to struggle with the most on [X] character, and when those fights go well, think about what made it easier that time. Just having one or two cards that are a bit better for certain fights helps. And of course it's better to blow your potions than to die
>>738608194Not that guy but yes. My last run was a flop and it was entirely my own choices that screwed me over so I can't even properly blame the game.
>>738667032>>738667248>>738667275But what if I manage to build a deck for a lot of the encounters in act 1, but in act 2 and 3 my deck is going to be useless? And how can I build a deck when I have no control over which cards and relics I get?
>>738666058yesterday i walked into a shop with 173 gold and saw a tent priced at 173 gold. Sometimes it just werkz, sometimes you get fucked. You're interpreting misfortune as a conspiracy against you because you're a fag.
>>738667714Cards either deal damage, deal AoE damage, gain block, draw cards or gain energy(discard/exhaust/balls/etc. too but not the point). This will be good against act 2 encounters if deck is doing fine against act 1. There’s also limited number of cards per character so you just need to find damage/block/energy/draw solution that works with your existing deck
>>738667714That's why the skip button exists. If the cards aren't useful, don't take them.
>>738667714>But what if I manage to build a deck for a lot of the encounters in act 1, but in act 2 and 3 my deck is going to be useless?The random fights in act 2 aren't that much of a step up compared to the random fights in act 1, unless you were really just shitting out single target 20+ damage in one attack, then the bugs that reduce that to 9 will probably be a pain in the ass. The hard pool has one or two that could suck I guess. But your boss reward, whatever relics you got in act 1 and your ancient relic should be enough of a step up to get them. For the elites in act 2 if you think you're not strong enough then don't path into them early on and try to get better cards first (or avoid them as much as possible if you're still not confident).Act 3 the fights are obviously harder, but you're not building a deck in act 1 that can beat act 3, you're building a deck in act 1 to beat act 1. Don't pick extra shit unless it's generically good and you have a way to get to it (draw power) and play it (something that gives you more energy) because it'll bloat your deck and make you less likely to draw other cards you might need for certain fights.>And how can I build a deck when I have no control over which cards and relics I get?Make the best choice (or no choice by skipping shit) that you can right then.
>>738667714In my non-A10 opinion, Damage is the most important for Act 1, and immediately Act 2 will test your block, so you should focus on that next. That way you have the damage necessary for Act 2 as well.Hopefully with the Act 1 boss, Act 2 elites, and shops, you should be setting up a win-con for Act3/Bosses.
>>738668308>>738668418So a major part of success depends of if I'm lucky with my card and relic rewards? Makes me feel a bit less shit at least
>>738667714Also it most works like thisStarting cards are trash, everything that’s not havoc or body slam is better than starting cards so just picking ANY common card will make your deck stronger.Then when game gives you uncommon/rare cards you pick those that are either universally good, solve specific things or synergies with what you already picked. After playing several times with less experienced people I’ve noticed common mistake, they pick “value” cards in act 3/2 that dilute their game plan because it can be good in very specific situation that never arrives
>picrel + photon cut with glam, and cosmic indifferenceI think I'm cooking.
>>738669685transfigure is a cool ass card
>>738672568My problem with Transfigure is that when I have a card that is good with it, I don't have the energy budget to play it. And if I have the energy, my cards are not worth replaying for an extra energy. Not to mention it's draw order dependent.
>>738672762It's worth playing on almost anything.>Play it on a bodyguard>Bodyguard is now 2 energy 10/16 summon>But if you have Danse Macabre or one of the three other things that Necro benefits from playing 2+ cost cards, it counts as two triggers>So it's now 1 energy to make a 2 Energy 10/16 summon, 8 block, get back right hand hand, etc.
>>738673027eh you need a lot of energy or danse/helmet to make it worth putting on "anything". if you're taking transfigure as your boss reward and the value you get out of it is putting it on bodyguard then its not really worth it compared to other rares.
>>738672762Transfigure is basically designed to be used with cards like Sow and Bury, activate Dance Macabre, get more use out of Borrowed Time, and of course you can use it on X-card costs. It's also another card that basically exists to make stuff like Sculpt&Veilpiercer even stronger.It's more synergy-reliant than people realise, at least if you want to make it truly busted.
I love when everything goes right in a run
has anyone ever managed to punch dagger make it so? is it as beautiful as it sounds?why am I always 20 gold short whenever punch dagger shows up FUCK
>>738673787Yes. Yes it is.
someone host pls. Daily or whatever ascension
Hostan, any ascensions welcomesteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244710553341/76561199214357271
>>738676106new link cause I closed game or smth accidentalysteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244711070311/76561199214357271come join
>>7386765172/4, I'll wait 1 or 2 more a bit longer
>play a couple games>lose miserably>go workout>come back>play a run>rape the gameSomeone explainAlso neow is a furry is genuinely great now
>>738676106>>738676769correction: we've got room for one more. Be there or else
How the FUCK do you win A10 in duos?Shit is abysmal cock and ball torture. My bro and I have been trying off and on for weeks.
>Electric Shrymp>Afterimage>Footwork>Shivs>Knife Trapnice try Aeonglass
>>738667783I'm not interpreting anything as a conspiracy. You just can't read. I already said that the price changes based on the order you purchase things with courier just to fuck you over. The relic costs more if I buy different items just so I can't afford it. You're just misunderstanding my point because you have room temperature IQ.
Defect kinda just deletes the new bossPretty sure they could fix this problem if they changed the cards from status to curses, even if that's at odds with the mechanical difference between the twoIdk how else they'd fix this issue
>>738666423probably the most important thing that the game fails to explain is the easy/hard hallway encounters. The first 3 combats in act 1 are "easy pool" combat encounters. Then every combat you hit after is from the "Hard pool". In act 2 and 3 only the first 2 combats are easy pool then the rest are hard. You want to prioritize paths that minimize hard hallway encounters. Even elites are generally better because they pose a similar potential HP loss but with a much greater reward than hard hallways. Normal combats are the least productive type of floor you can take in general and hard hallways just being normal combats with a greater HP loss makes them the absolute worst type of floor.
>>738666423get a lot of card draw, some energy, and one or 2 big fuck you like murder or the red guy's hammer card that costs 3
>>738607667Have you tried picking the good cards?
>>738677926Giving Defect an entire archetype centered around abusing status cards might've been a bad idea.
another win for the Clads
>>738668589no, it's understanding how cards add value to your deck as a wholeyou only ever need to have a damage solution and a block solution, but getting the answers to those problems while growing in power is the goal of the gameif you play well you can pretty much win every single run, blaming luck is for the foolish
>>738657871Finally the guy finished the mod
GG Clad and Necro, fun run.Pillars of creation + Dance blade+ + Beat into shape was a great combo.In the final fight, I accidentally exhausted Decisions, Decisions lol
could have taken 0 damage from all three bosses since I thought Osty blocks mid rot damage and just didn't play any block
>>738677671Duos are far harder than trios, quads, and solos, because the balancing shoots up to expect two cohesive decks.Trios/Quads allows for one deck to carry a little harder while other decks find their footing, especially with multiplayer cards generally being OP as fuck.Solos deal with far more balanced scaling.In short, you suffer.
>>738680462wrong screenshot
>>738680512>Flankinggetting Silent cards from that event is so good
>>738680464>In short, you suffer.trust me we've been
>>738680417Necro cards on clad are fun
>>738680658I also find it hilarious that everyone always picks green cards, if possible, from that event. Silent is very balanced btw
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>>738681176liar
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244717624268/76561198801173979 hosting cuz other anon is a dingus
>>738681319steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244717125208/76561198093809138 erm ackward
overall low asc Phylacetry Unbound is unfair. Literally took damage in THREE encounters, zero in act 3.
>>7386813732/4
>>738681373>connection timed outare you on the latest patch of the beta branch?
>>738681609yes
>>738679727So any build can be good?
>>738681373>>738681403Any slots still open? I can join in ~5 minutes I think
Can someone help me pick
>>738681952at least snap adds retain to a card
>>738681373>>738681403both links say game no longer instead of game started or lobby full. Anyone hostan?
>>738681952Osty counts as a minion, surely
No, I just don't get the fucking Regent. I've made it to A8 with his ass but only by pure luck. Rolled back to A5 and I've been trying runs all day to see if I can get any consistency. I can't. The damage is never there unless I get a Sovereign Blade going, and that requires (from what I can tell) shittons of Summon Forth or Cosmic Indifference to get it back in the deck. Minion summoning is a lot of fun but I get no consistency out of it, after lots of tries. Monologue and other similar cards I've received absolutely no value from. Star builds are so fun but they never seem to mature into sufficient damage for bosses. There's something very wrong with my gameplay.
>>738682740Just create stuff bro
>>738682740You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.(Low asc cause multi, but it would've worked in any asc, it was a high roll run)
>>738682842>playing Ironclad>if enemy is not dead by turn 7-8 then something went horribly wrong>playing anyone else>this is turn 12, boss might start to scale enough to deal damage to me in 4 turns or so
hostan?
If I don't win this run I'm done
>>738682842>icon at the top is still the doorWe will get it back bros...
slaying steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244720623226/76561198006368528
>>738683452You can always brick against bowl bugs, eat 22 to face, then two floors later meet Mytes
>>738683570~5 mins, pls
>>7386835702/4
>>738683578The deck is also strong. I have ONE (1) strike left.I SHOULD win this.
>>7386835703/4
What a fun run this ended up being. I got serpent form from Neow and pathed through 6 ??? rooms in act one hoping for slither, but no such luck. Then I got the mug from tez and pathed to shops but no royal stamp either. I did however get crazy lucky and get turn 1 serpent forms in like every boss fight and elite which was whack. Game really had it for me, especially when I got the axe so that meant double snake form.real fun run this was.
>>738683570full. we wait for regent to get back n we go
>>738682842Oh damn it works
yippee! my first a10 victory!
>>738681373sorry bro I had enough damage to finish at the end but I fucking thrashed first like a retard
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>>738684526It's alright. I was trying my absolute hardest to get Debilitate again but it seemingly vanished from my fucking deck. It was fun while it lasted. Getting toxic egg as my first relic was also probably a curse in disguise, all of those upgraded skills I took bloated my deck a bit too much.
>>7386846613/4 starting soon
Defect has to pick up a copy of Flak Cannon or Compact to survive a run now that Aeonglass exists.
>Thread made a day agoRipIt lasted a long time thoughSee you guys next big update or something
>>738686117>thread is used mostly for people to actually play vidya with one another the horror
>>738655529this is all we have for the mesugaki atm
>>738685686They arent terrible cards to have in a lot of annoying fights.
>>738686432you cut out the panel where ironclad immediately uses it as exhaust fodder since it costs 2
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>>738686117time to move to /vg/ and enjoy our chill slow thread
Surprisingly smooth runEarly upgraded Hatched and Discovery hard-carried the run until I got decent cards for proper scaling.
>>738685686aeonglass dies to a million defect decks that don't involve flak cannon or compact
>>738686432loli regent should have drill hair. Any other depiction is wrong and gay
>Clad with a super fun Hellraiser deck>Silents spamming shiv, killing everything>me: Refine blade+Hegemony+Relax "might do something in 20 turns!!" deckwell, at least I was relaxed. GGs team
>>738683570unlimited strike works
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>>7386889802/4
>>738682740Either go Stars or Creation (especially with Arsenal, gaining 1 Str per created card is retarded scaling).
>>7386890633/4
queen got burnt
hostin steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244732417760/76561198093809138
Not playing this gay woke shit no matter how many times you shill it.
>>738680882Regent is more overpowered than silent
>>738682740Nah I agree his design is just fundamentally retarded. Stars is the gayest gimmick.>oh I got an overtuned card from the pile of complete fucking nonsense enough to overcome the characters inherant disability. Win the game.
>>738691254>look mom I posted it again!!
Lobby where
>>738691850>starsAre you stuck two months back in time? Regent's card creation is currently retard strong.
>>738692086>pickek
>>738691998lobby here steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244733539291/76561198801173979
>>738692086Yeah nigger I know its strong. Strong enough to overcome the characeters otherwise retarded nature.
omg bros I did it, this boss is so intense, I'm shaking
what are these dogshit ass card rewards bro i already have two of these
>>7386921823/4
>>738692086I haven't played Regent a whole lot yet but doesn't card creation still usually use stars too? The couple runs I did that it was spamming quasar and double dipping on pillar of creation/child of the stars
>>738692182>Check another tab>Come back in thread isn't on auto>Its fullDarn
>>738692414Some of it does. You're always gonna want some star generation on Regent.
>>738692319were you hoping for eidolon
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>>7386929682/4
gg
>so busted im taking four elites in act 2 and have taken 0 damage after the first 3>history course event shows upsometimes this game just wants you to win
>>738692968>No block cards>No block cards>No block cards >Hope you like eating big damage :)Painful. Absolute robbery
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244736192892/76561197997192985LOBBY FOR MANLY MEN AND WOMEN
>>738694523in the fish boss I got Dominate in the first draw, waited to get 15 vuln on it, and then Dominate was literally the last card in the 2nd draw. Abysmal luck.
>>738692182where you fuckers at, we won
>>738692182steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244733539291/76561198801173979 rehosting I guess
>>738694701host left the lobby? I dunno
>>738694756game no longer exists
>>738694756actually try this link steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244736391576/76561198801173979
timed out
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244737299599/76561197997192985REHOSTING
bros... why didnt they start the podcast by listing their best win streaks again...
not sure why this is happeneing
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ggs, my silent build was ass but there's nothing a couple flankings can't fix.
That Electric Shrimp on Reanimate carried me so hard.Also I keep forgetting Time's Up is an attack rather than a skill, thus it procs Lethality and Reaper Form. GG.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244740494960/76561197997192985china will grow larger
>>738698079
>>7386980792/4
Multi is fun because I can finally take fun cards like Mangle
is this a known glitch?>play begone>before the game asks you to select a card, quickly press the card you want to retain until next turn>it wont and cant get transformed that turn>end turn, watch it retain>its also big as fuck now
>>738699281oh, the card becomes unplayable, nevermind. I wonder if you can discard it / transform it still though
>>738699281>he doesn't know about bigger defend
>2 losses in multiplayer>Lost the two runs I did in single player tooAlright one more run for today and then I'm outsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244744565306/76561198042507437
>>7387013213/4 here. Hop in Its at A4 but thats whatever
Had a couple of shit runs with the Silent on the current public, I can't pinpoint what's bad about it, but nothing ever came together in any kind of satisfying way. Necro is super easy, even John Spire is reliably good now, so what gives?
>>738623964Dirge is for shrimp, you silly faggot
>>738701676shes in a shit spot where shes hamstrung by the way the game is designed currently and is either completely dogshit worthless or afk autowin simulator with basically nothing in betweentheyve nerfed all the wrong parts of the character basically
>>738701906Bait
just won a run with stardust felt so fucking good dealing 9x36 damage, hidden cache is OP>inb4 A1fuck you
>>738701676Silent requires understanding she has loads of ways to do damage, and how to build around them.Recently had a run where I got a Beacon of Hope early, so I was mostly taking defensive cards to help my co-op partners.Ended up also taking out several elites because I was backflipping/prepareding/etc'ing my deck so swiftly i'd build up massive Murders, while also getting chip damage from my speedster.If I had an accelerant and a couple of noxious fumes that would have also been a viable way to splash in damage that I see a lot of Silent's not appreciating.Meanwhile my most recent solo silent run got Bullet Time as my first card, so I ended up focusing on thinning my deck while getting predators, dashes, and other quality cards that are a bit clunky to play.I think the biggest issue Silent has right now is that a lot of her damage doesn't really scale well without rare cards, as opposed to Ironclad, who scales fine with uncommons, Regent who scales okay with uncommons and ridiculous with rares, and Defect whose rares are broken and uncommons are kinda trash.
>>738703049Congratulations anon. Stardust is what makes people realize star builds can actually be fun. As you experiment more you will eventually find out that Stardust isn't even that great, which is kind of amazing and pushes you to trying more Regent cards/builds/ideas.
Aeon glass is countering my shiv deck.>It's time eater all over againIt's over....
>discussing multiplayer runsopinion discarded
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244747442887/76561198801173979 a10 im fucking miserable
>>7387036303/4
Of course
>>738704132lmao
Holy shit what an Osty run
>a2
>>738704608Sorry man, I haven't been playing a lotta necro until now, been busy with ironchad
>decide to skip block on the floor 2 reward>buy relic instead of block at floor 4 shop>don't see block ever again>die halfway through to the second elite because fresnel lense but no block cardsnice i love guessing wrong on a 50/50 on floor 1 and dying for it.
>>738706690why would you ever skip block early?you got punished for being greedy as fuck
New tierlist dropped
I'm now a4 on regentI do not actually know how to play regent, how do I play regentseriously I have no idea how my runs have been successful, only thing I'm sure of it that meteor shower is busted
>hurr just play act 1 well and the rest of the game is easy :^)tired of pro players (read: japanesefraudport) saying this shit. dude has one run thats a little lucky and gets busted instantly and then acts like every run is like that and like you don't have runs where the game doesn't really hand you act 2 boss damage or block
A6 BETA BRANCHsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244753530557/76561198143673966
>>7387082762/4
>>738708276>>738708307oof nice try, I always forget the infestation hits your HP and not the HAND
>get a really good start with glam on a good card>blow it because I got too overconfident and didn't prepare myself properly against a hard hallway fighti'm shit at this game
just died twice in a row in Act 1 with Necrobinder on ascension 5.>whispering hollow event>transform 1 card>it's fucking EidolonI can see why some people would throw things at their monitor when playing
>>738709590sometimes the gamble pays off sometimes it doesn't
Black blood is, without question, worst ancient relic in existence
>>738709964Toasted Mittens says otherwise.
>>738709985Mittens gives you strength
>>738707638>tier descriptions a wall of textLet me guess, Nave?
>>738710146Correct
>>738707638vocal fry faggot is an absolute tard
>>738710069What good is strength when it deletes your good cards
>>738710278It can make your less good cards viable. Black blood literally doesn’t do anything
>>738710307black blood can easily heal you over 70+ hp in a single act, allowing you to be more aggressiveyes it's shit, but you're never telling me mittens are better
>>738709272Nah. Hard hallway fights are designed to damage your runs. Especially if you get a bad draw. That's not player skill dying because you run into them is just part of it
>>738710069Strength doesn't go as hard in spire 2.No heavy blade, no pummel. Have to get lucky on events to get the multi hit colorless cards.
>>738710365Mittens gives you strength and activate your exhaust synergies. None is taking 10 fights in hive so your black blood can heal 60+ hp
>>738710473> no pummelYeah, you just have non-exhaust AoE version now
>>738710516>let's gamble on a rare single cardlol
>>7387104861 Strength per turn does jack shit. Oh did you need to block this turn? OOPS exhausted flame barrier/bulwark/Deaths Door! Don't worry you got 1 stength for it, hit them for 7 with strike!
>>738710473I miss limit break.
>>738709964It lets you sustain multiple offerings. So it's almost like that card that draws and gives energy for maxhp, except you don't lose maxhp. The downside is you actually need to find the cards.
>>738710608You know what does even less? 6 block per fight
>>738710703It's block that always lands and spills over between fights, unless you're somehow full hp.It's better than shit like relaxes>end your turn, don't full block>maybe do something next turn>can't even be replayed in bosses
>>738710847You can cheat out relaxes
>>738710847>Unbreakable means you can play it and get 30 block>Gives energy and draw next turn>Can be played for free with havoc or cascade>>738710608>Upgrades multi-hit attacks>Can be countered by padding your deckWhat are these bad takes? Its about time for you two to start posting receipts of your win rates
>>738710903
>>738711014I kneel black blood-sama
Any lobbies?
>>738711014I kneel
>>738699281it happened to me yesterday, but didn't have time to F2 cause MP. Except my card was stuck in the middle of the screen instead of becoming larger IIRC
>>738711095I'll make one
>>738707696see >>738683012 (me)You can get by with a very simple plan if you get the right cards. Block by creating cards, Bulwark, or Reflect (I like Glitterstream a lot, too), deal damage with random bullshit, vigor multihits, or blade.
>>738711597A6 BETA BRANCH (can increase the diff if you want)steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775244758501106/76561198143673966
>>738711014
>>738711629nice try, I fumbled again
>>738712635GG i kept getting poison cards in act 1 and then I got no shivs but kept getting offered accuracy in act 2 lmao.We can go again desu. I can be on regent.
>>738712652I'll pause for a bit, maybe in a few hours
I'm terminally offline, are people unironically hung up over this bitch 10+ years later
>>738712906that's your daily attempt at derailing?
>>738712906Well it turns out she hasn't gone away, she's still doing damage to the medium, only more covertly.
>>738713058No that's me coming across a screenshot and contemplating the horseshoe theory"durr, CANCEL this thing that I don't like!"
>act 1>already got ice cream, borrowed time, sleight of flesh and oblivion
>>738642446Nta try Chrono Ark
>>738707714I hate players like soiport that boast and use reductionist outlooks to talk about game difficulty (or any other game design aspect for that matter), especially when you tune in their streams and play like shit.The other day I watched Baal on stream and he won some runs (by a landslide), then lost some runs because he experimented a bit, got complete and utter dogshit offered (like seeing 24 cards on rewards and 22 were garbage commons or something like that), wasn't able to put anything good together and eventually lost. He's a very accomplished player and is still figuring some parts of the game out. That gameplay felt real to me because at the end of the day, even if sts1 a20h was more difficult, spire 2 is still an overall difficult game on the grand scheme of things.The discourse of "you just pick bleh and win!1! game is ezpz you can't lose!" feels like fake dishonest discussions from fags trying to compensate.
My clad winrate has skyrocketed but at the cost of my Necro winrate. The fuck is going on lately ive been getting molested with Necro. It doesnt help that im trying to make Osty attack playable when its just garbage. Clad lately feels so much more consistant
>>738716062My exact experience lately too. I don't know if it's skill issue.
>>738716062>>738716323>NecroOsty just has shit scaling without loads of demesne.Friendship seems like it should be enough, but you badly need the draw to make sure you can play enough osty cards for rattle, and god forbid if you don't have at least two calcify.Osty damage is best done through Necromastery and just playing a very defensive deck, but even then you're still better with Sleight of Flesh.Unfortunately Sleight of Flesh is too good, so something is going to have to change.
>>738716820>Unfortunately Sleight of Flesh is too good, so something is going to have to change.Literally the central damage piece of my last win.
