There are so many Star Fox threads, but nobody is talking about how the Star Fox team killed fake Andross and had General Pepper and the Cornerians foot the billWhat other games have funny canonical endings?
>YOUR CARCASS IS MINE
>>738617162>destroy a ton of meteorites >charge the Cornerian army the same amount as downed Venomians for them
>>738617162Star Fox commits massive fraud all the time. They count asteroids they blow up as enemies slain.
>>738617162>83000>split between 4>barely breaks 20k each>this money is supposed to last until Adventures, which is a good +3 yearsI'd be better off flipping burgers at a space station grill than do mercenary work.
>>738617206her voice was so sexo................
>>738617284>Shoot down 3 targets with one charged shot>Note down two extra kills on the record to reward myself for my aimThe General won't know the difference
>>738617162WHAT?!?!?!
>>738617162How many responses does General Pepper have to the invoice? I can remember "What?" and something like "this is a steep bill".
>>738618362How much fucking jet fuel did 4 arwings and the great fox use for the entire mission? The US navy spent has 25 billion just playing battleship the past two weeks with no fighting
>>738618991That's how it works in real life. You get a medal for how well you survived, not just for surviving.
>>738619128Three, he says nothing if you were shit, if you were medium he says "this is one big bill...but it was worth it" and you killed 1k+ he says "WHAT?!?!?!".
>>738617162Pepper is a penny pinching asshole, that bill translates to 20,000 to all star fox members. They get below minimum wage for saving the lylat system.
>successfully assassinate the leader of an attacking terrorist force and utterly cripple their capabilities by destroying, and killing the pilot at the same time, 1,303 hostile vehicles>get paid $83kgood lord inflation in the future is hellish
>COME IN 'CORNELIA'>T H I S I S C O R N E R I A>P E P P E R S P E A K I N G
>>738619284bro that's the opposite, it's deflation. I bet a burger costs like 2 pennies or something
>>738617162>What other games have funny canonical endings?OP, did you make this thread entirely to seethe about people rightfully calling you an autistic retard?https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/738600213#p738603702
>>738618362>>738619148>>738619271>>738619284Did it ever cross your mind that the imaginary anthro space currency of the future might be of different value than the Almighty USD$ that you worship?
>>738619356Roger.I am heading back to Corneria
>>738619706no, because that's dumb, and America is the God that the entire rest of the world kneels before
>>738617162>Whaaaaaat?
THATS ONE STEEP BILL
>>738617284Those asteroids were very evil.
>>738619284The only practicing jew in Lylat loses his job at the end of 64 and gets turned into an alien zombie in Assault, so it’s safe to assume judeo-capitalism never took hold of the Lylat System.
>>738619271>Pepper is a penny pinching assholeAs all public servants should be. But he's also a retard if he's surprised by what the bill is at the end. As all public servants are.
>>738617162>What other games have funny canonical endings?The fact that James and Peppy trap Fox into generational debt>be James McCloud>needs a new ship for his 2 (two) other mercs>contracts the construction of a completely unecessary, colossal starship, Great Fox>has to take out an EIGHTY YEAR LOAN to finance it>ship gets built for his tiny crew and they become successful while twenty thousand leagues under the debt sea>signs it to his son before his mission to Venom>dies on purpose and sends Peppy back>Fox now has to make payments>years later Star Fox battles the Aparoids>Peppy goes full retard and crashes Great Fox into the Aparoid planet>The ship's bridge is somehow intact and able to fly home>DING DING DING TIME FOR INSURANCE. TIME FOR MORE LOANS TIME FOR MORE DEBT>Krystal realizes this and immediately dumps him
>>738619706I wish I had some Bison Bucks desu
>>738617162except the cannonical ending is killing andross' brain.dumbass.>>738617284Yuh? If those moved towards a settlement on katrina, aquas, or corneria it'd be a pretty big deal. taking out the threat early is worth paying for.
>>738619706Theyd still have to cover debts and expenses before distributing the earnings, plus Fox is a moralfag who probably pays taxes. It’s also explained in the manga leading up to Adventures that they run out of money and Great Fox falls into disrepair.
>>738620303Explain his unnecessary appearance at Adventures (they seriously could've use the original Final Boss Rare cooked up).
>>738618362>>this money is supposed to last until Adventures, which is a good +3 yearsYou do realize Adventures ENTIRE sequence started because Starfox was so fucking poor they could barely do anything right? It's why the Greatfox looks like shit and Fox is using that weird junker transporter arwing, and why Falco fucked off.Oh right.You faggots don't ACTUALLY play games.You just jerk off and seethe.Nigger.
>>738618362>>83000>>split between 4>>barely breaks 20k eachLets be real, it all went into Great Fox repairs.
>>738620616Rob as the officiant is hilarious to me
>>738620442mystic voodoo revival bullshit from space ghosts.It's sci-fi magic I aint gotta explain sheit.
>>738620616
>>738620372>Explain his unnecessary appearance>Somehow... Andross returned.
>>738620616>>738620710>Slippi cannonically (for now) fucks like a rodeo bullWhat a chad.
>>738619706Nope, Japan is obsessed with America, plus they still use the dollar sign.
>>738620521based
>>738620616>>738620710Slippy made a bunch of money being part of Star Fox, helping save the Lylat System. Then we he made enough money, retired, and went home to be a family man.
>>738621018If only we all could be so lucky.Shit's so fucked lads, can we make it?
>>738618673When did Pepe become sexy?
>>738617162I stood up and shouted KINO!
>in universe, the Star Fox team logo was designed by PigmaWhat are the implications of this?
This game has such a great ending.
>>738621394He was already thinking about James with angel wings.
>>738620710Look at that proud papa.
>>738621394Is this an official document?But you need to recall the OG starfox team was>James>Peppy>Pigma>and Wolf>maybe andross (i don't recall that myself but someone brought it up in a prior thread)So they used to get along pretty well, beyond some bickering on pay or such. Pigma probably had some loose respect for James as a pilot/commander but couldn't tolerate his selfless attitude and need to save everyone.
>>738621783When was it said Wolf was part of the OG Star Fox Squad?
>>738621394Is that a play on when pigs fly? If so that could be foreshadowing for his betrayal.
>>738621831After looking up a few wikis, I guess no where, but the new prologue intro had James' Arwing possess both a Fox and Wolf pawprint.So he could have been a protege of James.
>>738622235I thought the smaller paw was Fox's because he's his Dad and would do that.
>>738620303>SOMEHOW ANDROSS RETURNED>General Pepper treats fox like an immature amateur in adventuresNah
>>738621394he was one of the boys before becoming a traitorous swine
>Make a new arwing for command>It's objectively worse than the old arwing peppy and james useWhy?
>>738622605>Star Fox team is forced to take a pay cut after fucking up and killing robot Andross instead of the real one the first time
>>738622605The unifying theme of Command was, “Everyone turns into an egotist who isn’t a team player anymore,” so it makes sense that all the characters want to have their own shit.
>>738622605They literally can't replicate it. They lost the technology.
>>738622691command would be post assault retard bro.Peppy's arwing is even a perfect recreation of the Assault styled Arwing. Meanwhile Fox's is slightly different.Though it was certainly due to monitary issues. The Great Fox was nuked in Assault to open up the aparoid homeworld, so getting a new GF would not have been cheap at all.>>738622346>implying the most intelligent and gifted scientist in cannon wouldn't have genetic back-ups.dumbass. plus adventures was fox' second? third mission? not unreasonable, especially if he got an ego over killing andross and avenging his father.
>>738617162>only 1303
>>738623046assume corneria to meteo, katrina, solar, macbeth, area6, vemon.what's your highest potential?
>>738621394That at one point he had to be genuine.
>>738623046Better than my average
>>738619148I'm pretty sure that expenses related to mercenary work (transportation, ammunition, etc.) are typically covered in the contract irl, which would make the pay a little better.
>>738620521>Eliminate Galactic threat and the majority of his forces>Peace Reigns>so peaceful that it begins to affect you and your small band of expert pilots literally because there is no more war to fight.>you take smaller jobs instead of complaining but the accumulated losses begin to rack up ship repair becomes secondary to the upkeep of the Arwings>Slippy doing the best he can with what hes got eqiupment and even rob slowly deteriorate until finally someone leaves the team because he got sick of how everything is turning to shit taking the Arwing with them.>one less fighter and fighter ship but now you have wiggle room to keep going>this continues for an unperceived amount of time until General Pepper rings up the crew about Sauria and the mission which turns out to be an escort mission/planetary repair a real big mission but the mission requires finesse which is the cop out reason why fox couldnt even bring his gun because he legit would've killed everything effortlessly with it.Story and designwise Adventures was kinda fucked.
>>738623193When you say "highest potential" do you mean theoretically possible or what's realistic for a player? Either way it's very easy(but very boring) to guarantee at least 2k since you can grind out 999 on Solar alone.
>>738623520>at least 2k since you can grind out 999 on Solar alone.Can you? What's the trick?
>>738622980Why would he need to rely on a genetic backup when he could put up a convincing front and simply trick the Star fox team into killing a robotic copy of himself
>>738622235>the new prologue intro had James' Arwing possess both a Fox and Wolf pawprint.Nigger that's James's print with little baby boy Fox's below it
>>738623578When you fire a charged shot you get a bonus hit for every "enemy" the explosion makes contact with. Unfortunately there are a lot of things in the game that are flagged as "enemies" when they're actually just obstacles. For example in Corneria you can farm some extra kills by repeatedly firing charged shots at certain buildings. On Solar you farm kills by firing charged shots into the lava and hitting the solar flares. Since these spawn during the boss and the boss gives you infinite health you can very easily(but very, very, very slowly) work your way up to the limit of 999 by landing a few charged shots on the solar flare that spawns during each attack pattern cycle.
>>738623497>mission requires finesse which is the cop out reason why fox couldnt even bring his gun because he legit would've killed everything effortlessly with it.He went COMPLETELY unarmed right?Shouldn't these faggots have like plasma swords or stun batons or something at least?sure bringing a gun that can punch a hole through steel would be over kill for the primitive planet, but bringing nothing was equally retarded. Fox would have been quite fucked if he didn't luck his way into the staff.But yuh Adventures is kind of a cluster fuck and you'd think after everything Starfox did Pepper would TRY to help them with some first offers on guard duties, cargo protections, etc.
>>738623578I assume the boss of that level makes an infinite number of rocks to attack you. Of course your arwing is constantly taking damage, so you have to play well.
>>738623717>solar flares count as 'enemies'>cornerian buildings can count as enemiesWell that's news to me. interesting.>>738623647because there's a chance fox finds the real him and kills him? What a stupid fucking question. You ALWAYS have a back up plan (fake robot) and a back up for the back up (genetic back ups) this is basic fucking shit.
>anons are just now realizing that in order to make a profit, Fox had to scam Corneria for all it's worth before the war ended>hence why by Adventures, they're broketruly the zoomgroids around here can't understand what inference is.
>>738623912IIRC this was even explained in the manual.
>>738623912WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT REAL
>>738623912where's my annoying bee??
>>738623901Yeah, but considering everything that happens in future games such as Andross still being around and the Star Wolf team not being mamed it's safe to say they went to Venom 1 and killed the stupid robot andross
>>738623912>truly the zoomgroids around here can't understand what inference is.Inference is what they called that snow that appeared in TVs in the 90s when the wifi wasn't working right.
>>738617284>clear out the area so Cornerian army can occupy another front of the warFox and team were mostly just helping the Cornerian military push into Androssian territory.
>>738623774well the mission started off as diplomatic sending an armed person to a monarch would've probably looked bad and remember if he didnt roll that way Pepper probably would've said alright you're not on the job then so you wont get payed. the only reason the staff got a pass is because Fox legit kept his mouth shut about it, unfortunately the game fails to convey the stakes Fox has during the mission brief because Fox is a good sport about it and Pepper is his friend despite everything but I wouldnt be surprised if Pepper is the stereotypical hard ass that would dock your pay for retarded shit.
>>738617162Have you seen the cornerian army? they barely care if you friendly fire
>>738620521I thought that was common knowledge. You can plainly see the Great Fox being all run down and looking like shit.
>>738624430It was simply nepotism. Don't forget Fox and Bill are bffs.
>>738624128>Star Wolf team not being mamedthey got better with future meds.
Why didn't Pepper just hire Wolf?
>>738624128The cyborg prosthetics were only temporary. I'm sure Oikoni's face got better and Leon grew his eye back.
>>738624039AI most likely.
>>738618362We have no idea of the value of spacebucks though. It could be like 10x ours for purchasing costs.
>>738624479It's common knowledge to anyone who played the game, or even just read the manual that came with it. Anon is implying that most Star Fox "fans" are just furfags who fap to r34 shit instead of actually playing the games.
>>738624785sounds like an argument I have with a anon in certain threads about a game called Blaster Master.
>>738624419Pepper quite literally tried to conscript Star Fox at the end of 64, he was about as much a friend as a politician can be, which at the end of the day, he is.
>>738624479common knowledge implies people played Adventures and don't just jerk off to Kyrstal anon.Which do you think is actually more likely?>>738624419Isn't Saura at the complete ass end of the Lylat System and as far away from Corneria as Vemon, if not more so?A a diplomat can carry one tool for close quarters self defense on an unknown planet surely, even just a stun baton. The whole mission is pure luck that Fox wasn't attacked by the scalecunts really.
>>738624596Wolf probably got better deals, only 5 figures for 1300 kills wouldn’t fly with a hardass like him.
>>738621394>pigmaPigma shit up off your floor.
>>738625024Kanna is great. People need to buy the triology. Really nice dungeon diving games.
>>738625136it's because the game was built off the code of a game called Dinosaur Adventures which didn't have a blaster in it, nor space combat. They just haphazardly tacked it onto Star Fox and most of the things involving Star Fox was made on top of the previous cancelled game. Though it begs the question if his team even gave a shit about Fox when they're willing to let him search around a godforsaken jungle planet for hours with little direct communication.
>>738625335They knew fox was top tier in melee, he has handled worse.
>>738620521Stellar based
>>738625335I think we are all aware of the history and how shit had to be jerryrigged to make a half passable plot.And It was either take this job, or serve up frog legs for dinner that night, and I don't think they were going to agree to the latter option.
>>738617206>MY ORGANS ARE BURNING
>>738617284are 64 spBucks really that much (yeah, thats the cost per unit downed, dunno if the cost is different in the 3ds remake)?i mean 80K+ of something definitely seems like a big number, but can it be really THAT big?
>>738620616Command is just a bunch of fanfiction shit
>>738623497At least by the end of it, they presumably got enough money to bring the Great Fox and all four Arwings back into working order.
>>738625718I fucking LOVE the Asaault designs for Great Fox and Arwings. Super slick and high tech.I really want this design to come back.
>'this is one big bill...but it was worth it'It definitely fucking has to, considering those 4 dudes and their robot managed to give you the victory on the war you were having, fido!
>>738625103yeah but as you know the team doesnt like the binding contract that comes with that. Foxes team are Mavericks and they prefer to stay that way because they hate the bureaucracy that comes with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjvJ65yh-X8 Remember how he reacted when they finally showed up on Cornera after the army got fucking owned there.
>>738625815I'd take it if they got rid of Falco's dumb clown costume.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq86bVrMojQ
>>738618673>Nipslippy Toad
>>738621213God I always loved the music at the end of Venom and the way MISSION ACCOMPLISHED hets stamped across the screen.>Nothing... Nothing's wrong.Kino
>>738626760Moments like that are why I'm alright with the devs trying to make this iteration of 64. They just need to keep the credit sequence with them running against the backdrop of the Great Fox against the horizon desu
They just better not fuck up the Area 6 soundtrack.
>>738626760Everything about it is really awesome, I'm not sure if they can top it. The flyby pan to GF and crew in orbit is all simple but perfect. Making it more "epic" or complex might ruin it. But I guess we'll see.>>738627251https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vMJi-bJCSg&list=RD1vMJi-bJCSg&start_radio=1
>>738621213>You've become so strong fox.
>>738627435I hope they keep the creepy as fuck bad ending with Andross. If I recall they made it look way too goofy in 3ds
>>738627868>lookI still hate how they fucked up his laugh
Woman Ending
Since Fortuna was changed to Fichina in the remake, can someone double check my memory.In Assault the first planet you go to is Fortuna, right? With Andrew, and its a lush jungle planet.Later is an icy planet you need to ecure a weather base on. That was Fichina no?Then Zero continued that? Fichina the icy one, then later you could unlock a path to a foggy jungle planet that was Fortuna?Any guesses why they are shifting the planet names? If such will be relevant to the supposed new title?
>>738628445The thing is that 64 had an error where the ice planet had the name of the jungle planet from the SNES game.
>>738620442Fuck you for reminding me that you don't even fight general scales, was gonna replay it but fuck no now
>>738620616SLIPPY WAS A DUDE?!
>>738628516Was not aware of that, so it's course correction then alright.
>>738621213So was James an arwing force ghost or real?
>>738628848I always thought Arwing ghost butbI think they're going to somehow say he survived. Command will probably be retconned
>>738628665Why are you trying to force this retarded girl slippy meme in every thread
>>738629051Because they put chemicals in aquas water to make the freaking frogs gay
>>738628927Stop
>>738628848the implication is heavily the James was either a ghost, or Fox was under a stress based hallucination due to near certain death.>>738628927just give a new game with fox, falco, slippi and krystal. and use it to set this set up. toss in monkey brat taking over vemon. there ya go. command had enough to work with for future games.
>>738619706Oh god it's pandemic isn't it? I have seen an absurd amount of isekais and you can tell the good ones from the bad ones because the good ones don't compare gold coins with god damn Japanese yens.
>>738618362It literally says "sp$" It is probably some fucking spacebux like bitcoin where people pay .1 for a cheeseburger.
>>738617162>gets the annual wage of an intermediate software developer for saving the galaxy>for a crew of several people>shot down over a thousand enemies>well known war heroThanks Corneria, I'm not picking the phone up next time.
>be Some Random Dude™>accidentally luck your way into saving conscious reality
>>738628927who's the dad
>>738625815If they remake Assault, but after seeing how the Switch 2 remake of 64 looks, I rather not see a remake of Assault. Hell they'll probably ruin Krystal in the remake.
>>738629530wrong thread scrollstwat.>>738629548I never sais remake assault.Just put its vehicle designs in the newest game.
>>738629625>stealth thread circlejerkThrow yourself upon the pyre of Touhoufaggotry and other newfag behavior.
>>738619148Apparently, 0 fuel.
>>738628927Command was never canon
>>738628927This is legitimately a great ending to the 64 timeline
738629718>thread is to discuss starfox>and is doing so>retard inbred bethsedadrone stumbles in because his IQ is under 30 and can't read>seethesfind a ditch and drown in it you worthless shit
They need to make a sequel to this game
>>738629897>What other games have funny canonical endings?>newfag buzzword spamYour body belongs on the same pyre as Touhoufags and everybody else who makes stealth generals. You will never fit in on 4chan.
>>738629535wolf obviously
>>738617162people seem to be missing the small detail that those are MOTHER FUCKING _SPACE_ DOLLARS
>>738623497god damn it i'm going to have to actually play the dinosaur game aren't i
>>738630016All depends on why you feel the need to play it.It's an alright zelda clone, but the trial button masher dinos are cheating niggers much like canary mary in cloudy cuckooland.>>738629972stay mad over it.
>>738630098>u madoh no it's new to 4chan
>>738619872I don't think Pigma can be Jewish on account of you know being literally non kosher.
>>738617162i wonder if the jp version calls it space yen instead of space dollars
I don't understand What did the general mean by this?
>>738620442He got cloned/rebuilt in an official manga between 64 and Adventures so that may have something to do with it.
>>738629897Anon I made the thread funny elder scrolls endings are allowed too
>>738619271>bro thinks every member of starfox gets an even cut of the payoutlolno. that's 30k for maintenance costs, 30k for Fox, 10k for Falco 10k for Peppy and 3k for Slippy.
>>738630276the fuck is this from?but I think certain warrior cultures make bracelets/bands out of their cut hair. with the idea the locks are enfused with the enemies defeat/blood and their own determination thus that energy/essence is passed on to whoever possesses the charm.
>>738620303but those asteroids were likely caught in heliostable orbit billions of years ago, the odds of them being able to stop circling the nearest sun are incredibly small unless they were acted upon by something like a spaceship shooting big fuckass lasers at it
>>738628848nope, standard sci-fi dead beat dad, just has an arwing with a cloaking device.
>>738630381That Anime short made for Star Fox Zero.
We need an Outlaw Star StarFox game.
>>738630318Isn't Slippy Fox's childhood friend? He'd defnitely not rob him like that.It'd be 30-50k for GF repairs pending if the wing is damaged by the section Y missile.then fox would try to split the rest pretty evenly, fox isn't pigma, he values what everyone brings to the team.
>>738618991>shoot down one enemy mercenary (not even proper Venomian army>yep that's 50 kills right there! bill it!
>>738629983>fucks a man who's tried to kill her dad half a dozen timeswhat's her problem
>>738630518>star wolf isn't vemonian forces>despite andross paying them to work for him>pretending a high value enemy commander getting killed isn't worth several plebs>ignoring if you take too long the value drops from 50 to just 5.
>>738628848Near death experience anything else is somehow palpatine returned autism
>>738630485>fox isn't pigma, he values what everyone brings to the team.there isn't a CEO in the world who pays all his employees equally, especially when you remember how fucking shit slippy and peppy are at piloting. Fox would obviously get the most because he's the owner, and he also can justify it because he reinvests his share back into the business. Slippy gets paid the least but "maintenance" is all him so he's actually doing pretty well since he skims a ton off the top of that. Peppy has been with the business the longest so he gets paid more than he deserves. and Falco gets paid a decent rate, but considering fox sent him out in a broken Arwing he obviously thinks he's paying Falco too much.
>>738630659What's the in lore reasoning for fox to sabotage Falcos g-diffuser?
>>738617206Slippy was careless in the original but he had a mean streak that the sequels never really capture. Assault has like one or two moments but it's different when the enemies are hivemind and not like, other living beings.
>>738630723Falco was acting like an asshole so Fox gave him the off brand arwing his mom bought him instead of the real one.
>>738630728I think Slippy does still give the no mercy line in the level in Wolfs base.
>>738630659holy shit please kill yourself.It's a personally owned private small business. Fox isn't a scum bag. He'd pay them all well for their work and contributions.Take your kike faggotry elsewhere.>>738630728Slippy being a bright eyed optimist with a loosely hidden blood lust is a rare character trait. Hopefully the remake captures it.
>>738617162>singlehandedly ended the Cornerian Invasion by killing the top generals and the commander himself>They only get $20,848 each
>>738618673I forgot about thinking that Slippy was a girl
>>738630892you first champ. it's a business, find me a small business where the cashier makes the same paycheck as the owner. It makes no fucking sense for hired pilots to get the same share as the ace pilot & leader, they have way less responsibilities than him. There's a reason Falco getting shot down leads to a 3 mission break for him, but Fox getting shot down is a game over.
>>738630915Not $. sp$.
>>738630485See my headcanon is because Falco has a big ego and that fox probably pays everyone fairly that's why he eventually fucks off, because he thinks his efforts are worth more
Are (were) there any notable Star Fox forums other than like GameFAQs?
>>738631074>There's a reason Falco getting shot down leads to a 3 mission break for him, but Fox getting shot down is a game over.Yuh.It's called being a game. Numb nuts. If Starfox was reality they'd struggle without Fox but could still clear a mission or two as the Arwing is repaired. Plus they wouldn't even have the Landmaster o Blue Marine without Slippy, plus be woefully lacking in enemy intel.He is still pretty damn important. Fox might get paid more but he wouldn't take 3x the mount and not have Slippy be left with jack shit as well.Git ye gone hook nose.
>>738622605Doesn't it get laser upgrades based on route?
>>738631186Arwing Landing?
>>738630892So far I kind of doubt the remake is going to nail it. The "you're not getting away that easy" line is now "you can't escape the arwing"
>>738630659>considering fox sent him out in a broken ArwingFox told the nigga to check the g-diffuser and he said it was fineThat's on him
>>738631086Let's multiply it by 1,000 then just for arguments sakes. $83,992,000. That's on the low end of the cost for a single fighter jet that can't even travel to space, and they still have to split that among the 4 of them.
>>738631186Probably some subforum on a Furry site
>>738631843>Fox told the nigga to check the g-diffuser and he said it was fine>original game is 'Everything is fine'>remake: 'uhhh...yup everything looks good. i got it'minor change but showing falco slacking his maintenance and inspection does add to the game.>>738631821though that one is less good change wise.
if fox and crew are just mercenaries, why do they call pepper sir and treat him like the boss? that would be like you phoning up a plumber because you need his services and will pay him for it and when he arrives he calls you sir and boss
738632376>Why do the young bloods show respect and honor to the old experienced old gun who mentors themWowFuckWhat a mystery.Who could ever fucking guess.Dumbass, I hope you are trolling.
I only ever played star fox on the SNES (it was actually called starwing here), but when people say star fox, they're generally thinking of 64 aren't they? not nearly as much of a street fighter 1 and 2 situation, but similar
>>738632482Pretty accurate
>>738632376Fox was in military school before being forced to drop out due to his dad dying, that's how he knows Bill and why he has respect for Pepper.
>>738632482More or less yes.Some ultra autists might try to imply Assault or rarely SF2, but Starfox64 is the one with the best reputation.Kinda like Zelda with OoT or now BotW. Or Mario with 3, world, or 64.
>brutally kill his comrades until there's virtually none left>"I'm glad we're on the same team, Fox!"
>>738632567I see. I know different manuals in different regions just make shit up completely for the story description, and I remember one I read (UK) basically said fox and crew are rogues, just working for money and happen to be getting paid for a good cause for this game. nowadays I would be skeptical but as a kid I just took that as canon. I can't remember which star fox game it was for.
>>738632376Pepper is the client, mutual respect is good
>>738632471Ah I'm dumb, read it as Peppy.But in that case1. He IS still their boss. Pepper could kill their contract at any point if they step out of line or cross boundaries.2. Fox at least was in the Cornerian army and respects Pepper highly. Falco might have been in the army but don't recall. And Peppy has been a long time friend of Pepper.3. Guy is still a high ranking official, you treat them with a base level of respect.
>>738632762The idea of Slippy shooting up a city because he's being paid good money is funny to me
>>738632762I imagine that's why they figured they should do a remake that adds a bunch of cutscenes where they discuss the lore between missions, since so much of it only exists outside of the game and has been distorted by different localizations.
I love this game but I can't even get a single medal, let alone all of them
>>738633613katrina, sector y, and macbeth are easy as hell.vemon as well if you go the back way and quickly kill starwolf. that's 200 point there.definite skill issue.
>>738620442Nintendo has some bizarre obsession with making the final boss always the same guy in their games.
>>738634008Not true, Kirby typically has different final bosses
>>738628229Star Vixen
>>738617284Rainbow asteroids from another dimension too. Also TV static bugs. Also Greek looking ruin pillars underwater, bugs that live in the sun...
>>738634008Don't change what aint broke.Beyond that it's really just Mario and Zelda. Kirby, FE, Splatoon, Pikmin, etc have all had variety of bosses.
>>738628927Captain Falco
>>738632376Peppy and James were good friends with Pepper. Fox and Falco went to the cornerian military academy then dropped out when andross went apeshit.
>replay SF64 as an adult>the COCKY LITTLE FREAKS guy is LITERALLY just a zaku, complete with the same launching mechanismhow did nintendo get away with this?
>loreI will give a shotHow did the people on Sauria know who starfox and cornerian is and are when they are just tribal society/technology?The best tech they have is just an airship. How are they even aware anything outside of their planet?
>>738634412gundam is based. referencing it in your space character drama is double based.All you need.
>>738634412He also has triangle Char eyes.
>>738634412Bro earlier in the stage there's a RED robot that Peppy calls "HE'S QUICK"this stage was literally a gundam reference from top to bottom.Oh yeah and the boss's robot is white, like the gundam
Takaya Imamura seems alright with these designs, no matter what the 4 of them will always be Star Fox when they’re together.
>>738634351>mario and zeldaWhen?Paper Mario barely counts and Miyamoto threw a bitch for all over it when he gained control to smooth everything over.
>>738634545Falco is relatively skinny in this image, but has a giant dump truck ass.
>>738634008They should've kept Drakor.
>>738634497They show char in the direct, killing him is a side mission
>>738634564Reread my post anon.>muh miyamoto seethingPlease sincerely kill yourself you worthless illiterate papernigger.>>738634487I don't recall much of Adventure...but did the S.O.S. Kyrstal sent out ask for Starfox? Pretty sure it was just tossed into space and Corneria intercepted it. Then Pepper offered it to Starfox due to their great skill.Right?
>basically finish developing the game>shiggy wiggy walks in, nose white with mexican nose candy>"Yeah okay guys this shit's cancelled lol, we're making a new one on N64 instead in 2+ years">"Also fuck off Argonaut you're not working with us anymore"I'd be fucking livid
>>738620616"MEESA LOOOOOOVES YOU!"
>>738634698I always saw this guy as a knock off digimon in the worst way possible and not sure why.
>>738634910Krystal answers an SOS and then gets captured, Pepper calls on Starfox because it looks like the planet is falling apart and it would be bad for the system if a planet just went and exploded.Running into Krystal along the way is just kind of a coincidence.
>>738635391Was it the Metal "FUCK YOU" Arm?
>the shiggy schizo finally arrivedIgnore him.For ONE thread.Just ignore him.
>>738635417I love how the plot line of Krystal trying to solve the mystery of her dead parents is completely dropped.
>>738624692nothing gets past you
YOOOUUU PAAAAY THIIIIS MUUUUCH
>>738619271how do you know the Space Dollar currency just hasn't been raped by usury and fiat? General Pepper was right to make Corneria the 109th planet to banish monkeys
>>738635512That's too low!
>>738635597>*bumps up the price by 1 scarab*
>>738635205This was back when franchises commonly had a release every 2 years as well. I still don't understand the thought process behind that decision. I bet Miyamoto really didn't want Miyu and Fay to be canon.
>>738631148I dunno if it's still canon but he fucks off because they're poorfags and drama over Katt according to that one manga.
>>738635439partially yuh. I like it'd be wargreymon he reminds me the most of.>>738635540Dash Bowman bros?!The fuck???
>>738635792Okay, I'll sell it to you!
>>738635597>>738635792Protip: She'll accept 20% off and no lower.
WHERE IS THE CREATOR?
>>738635974>she>right? I really do not recall adventures
>>738635512>pay more than what it's worth>think that le merchant will give a comment on why I'm overpaying>instead just snatches my bugs without hesitationMore heartless than a jew and chink combined
>>738636072She's female, she has an old crone voice.
>>738636136>he hasn't met a real reptilianlullmao
>>738636014God is in Heaven.
>>738633613300 hits on Area 6 is literally impossible.
For a new game would you guys prefer Aparoids to return? Anglars? New threat? If new pitch your ideas. Or Andross?
>>738636508I just want a fucking remake of 2.I like the mechanics of that game.
>>738636480Its very possible Just break your hands
>>738636508The Aparoids are the only ones with potential. If you're going to make new army Lizards from the same place Leon is from would be cool. Or robots that aren't animals could be fun too.
>>738636508Bring in him:>>738634698
>>738617162What's the joke though? They're mercs, that's their job.
KekThere are precisely zero fire emblem characters with a greater cultural impact than the star fox crew lol
>>738636014HALT! WHERE IS THE CREATOR, AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH HIM?
738637563li'l bro is fighting a war that doesn't exist.Fag,>>738637496It's not really a joke, more stating a lack of delligence by Starfox.If you beat Starfox64 on the easy route you face a mecha Andross, who is fake. But still get paid a hefty reward.You'd think Fox would at some point, at all, would bring up the Andross killed was a mechanical copy/replica. So that the Corneria army could look into it more dig a bit and see if that was his new body or a distraction tool to take heat off him. And if fake (it was) find his real body and kill him.But that just doesn't seem to occur at all.
>>738637563I would laugh my ass off if Blizzard made the Star Fpx team a boss fight in a raid.
>>738624039There's no need to be upset
>>738637563>SFfag throwing peanuts at FEbrother Star Fox hasn't gotten a non-64 game since the DS, and that was somehow worse than the shitty FE game on that same console
>>738638313>FEfags>lying, once againTo no one's shock.Both you stop being niggers.
Not bad. I dont abuse the charge shot along the ground, feels too dishonest and not a fun way to score. Has anyone ever tried an absolute minimum score run where the starfox team basically does it for free?
>>738639405>the charge shot along the groundexplain. I don't know 64's quarks all that well.never tried a minimum kill run but maybe if I emulate it soon I'll give it a chance.
>>738639472Not just minimum kill, minimum score, as in stalling out the bosses until they are worth dick all and routing in such a way to where you kill the least amount of enemies. In starfox 64 you can get extra hits by charge shotting the ground in certain areas and against certain things and basically produce points out of thin air.
>>738639472You get a bonus point for hitting an enemy with the charged shot's splash damage. so if you kill an enemy with the lasers, you get 1 point, but if you kill them with a charged shot detonating nearby, you get 2 points
>>738639405negroid gaming
>>738639605Nah im talking about charge shoting the floor against basically non enemies
>>738621394That's fucking dumb desu, no way Peppy and Fox would be okay with proudly flying it on their ship if that was the case. They'd have that scrubbed off first thing in the morning.
>>738639605sure I know that much.>>738639539though wasn't aware you could create ghost kills basically.I know wreckage juggling is a thing too, but not aware of how to maximize that either.
So how do we feel about one stage in 64 being an extremely blatant ripoff of Independence Day?
Look I get being disappointed with Zero but it's not a bad game.
>>738636508I'm biased towards Andross, but mostly because of the untapped potential of seeing his psychic abilities (telepathy, telekinesis) in full display. Barring that, I wouldn't mind seeing someone else take over as the new threat.
>>738625718It kinda seems like they cribbed a bit of Assault's version for the new design. Even if it's supposed to be a direct remake, I'm glad they're not just reusing the designs from 643D for everything like they did in Zero.
>>738628848Stress-induced hallucination. James never shows up again, and he's not the kind of person to stay out of things. Notice how his Arwing disappears into the darkness in the webm while Fox's Arwing doesn't.
>>738617162How'd I do?
>>738639946>Switch2 is the era of greeblesGonna be funky. It looks good though.
>>738640068>two short of sectorY medal>less than OPNot grand. an effort was made.
>play 64 for the first time two days agoI get it now. I scoffed at Star Fox fans, couldn't understand the autistic fervor for "just a rail shooter".It's a very cool game overall.
>>738634545The last thing I want is for Krystal to be added to the team. It just doesn’t make any fucking sense and completely breaks the group dynamic. Feels forced. If they must retire peppy at some point I’d rather they get a character that actually keeps each species different instead of a canon gf for fox but it feels wrong to not have a wise veteran on the group.
>>738628848https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_man_factorIt happens in real life too. One of the most fascinating mysteries of life, in my opinion.
>>738640210Star Fox fans make no sense when Jet Force Gemini and Sin and Punishment exist.
>>738640218It's been 33 years, the whole crew is wise veterans by now. Even Fatboy Slippy.
>>738640218I'm fine with Krystal being part of the team but Nintendo should play up her mystic elements and have her Arwing be stylized for scouting and recon purposes.
>>738621394Did Star Wolf ever have their own logo or is this the first one?
>>738640218Krystal will join the team and drive a wedge between Fox and Falco
>>738640479Surely they had one in Assault and Zero. Given they were more detailed and high tech.Lord if I could remember them though.>>738640387Agreed with this.
>>738620616FUCK FOX AND FALCO I HAVE A FAMILY NOW
>>738621394secret gay ex who killed james for rejecting his proposal
>>738640803I did remember Panther having his own logo on his Wolfen which was the rose.
>>738625697star fox was never high art to begin with, give us more fanfiction tier stuff
>>738618362For what it's worth, at least 25% of that was from shooting rocks and space debris.
>>738641036Yuh but Panther was the only one. Plus it was a personal decal, not team, which was the question.
>>738640479>>738640803The first time I can remember seeing one was in Starlink. The purple left half is the insignia of that game's native space pirate faction, the red right is presumably a wolf skull or something.
Krystal would have one shot me as a kid if I played Adventure. Tribal Tattoos + Blue Fox would have made me obsessed.
>>738641189Starlink is such a weird game.Nintendo didn't need to allow that extra mile but they did.And yet people have histrionics as if they don't care about the IP.
>>738639946I still find it funny how the Great Fox is never shown at its actual size. To hold all four Arwings side by side, the Blue-Marine, and the Landmaster, not to mention all of the parts and tools needed to maintain them, the engines, the crew quarters, etc, it would be at least the size of the Enterprise-D.
>>738640479Doing a Google search only brings up fan-made emblems, so yeah this is the first time Star Wolf has had an official emblem.
>>738641572It's probably been an issue of hardware limits if anything. Granted I don't recall how much it was shown in Zero nor its scale.
>>738641189>>738641423>Wolf>motivation is to conquer the galaxyThat was a surprisingly off-character plot. Just playing it made me wish for a Star Fox Freelancer-esque game.
>>738641738It's pretty much at the same scale in Zero as it is in 64, most apparent in the mission where you have to escort and protect it from enemy ships and Cosmic Dodora.
>>738641423It's been 8 years since Starlink, dude, and there's been jack shit between that point and this remake. The game was made by Ubisoft, all Ninty had to do was give them the OK and I guess get them in contact with the VAs from Zero. It's a great inclusion, especially considering the DLC pack made the other wingmates playable and gave them full voice lines for the campaign missions, but Ubislop did all that work. I don't know how that's supposed to be interpreted as some grand gesture to the fans on Nintendo's part. It reminds me of how Platinum had to ask for their permission to include the bonus Arwing in Bayonetta 2, or how Shiggy would've been fine with leaving Star Fox 2 to rot in digital storage for eternity if the SNES Mini's project lead didn't cajole him into permitting its inclusion as a bonus.
>>738641953It still shows they have interest in the IP, don't want it forgotten, and see value in it. If Nintendo loathed the IP they'd just deny the motion flatly.As for Bayonetta, yuh? They'd need rights permission to use the Arwing model, just allowing a Fox outfit doesn't guarantee anything else, so gotta double check if other stiff is fine.As for Starfox2 define 'cajole', I've not read interviews around that myself.
>>738642082It's more the equivalent of letting somebody borrow that power tool you can't remember the last time you used. There was no effort or input on their part, other developers came to them.>define 'cajole', I've not read interviews around that myself.https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/News/2017/September/Nintendo-Classic-Mini-SNES-developer-interview-Volume-1-Star-Fox-Star-Fox-2-1273086.html
>>738626760>Nothing... Nothing's wrongone of my favorite lines in fiction I'm not even lying
>>738640387Would take away from Slippy's role like she does in Assault.
>>738642219>Miyamoto makes a joke about it. as he is known to doI really hope you aren't so autistic you can't grasp this as a joke anon.
>>738642447Show me the part where he says from the start they were going to use it as an opportunity to finally release Star Fox 2.>The Nintendo Classic Mini: Super Nintendo Entertainment System’s producer said he wanted to include it. He said it had been through debugging and was a complete game, so it would be a waste not to put it out in the world.That obviously sounds like the project lead had a personal goal to see it released and was the one who had to broach the subject. Don't be a disingenuous little faggot.
>>738642364Not really. Slippy's part of the main four and the team mechanic, so he can provide intel and info on-demand. What I mean is Krystal scouts on ahead before missions begin, and joins you occasionally as a guest like Bill/Katt. She can also give mission briefings on Great Fox, and take center stage when Andross/someone else meddles with magic instead of technology.
>>738642768Honestly magic shouldn't be in Star Fox as a setting
>>738642797NTA but at best, Krystal should be adept at dodging and receive bonuses for no lock charge shots
>>738642797It's fine desu. Stuff like her staff and the Krazoa spirits disappeared from the series after Adventures, leaving her with just telepathy in Assault and Command. Telepathy/ESP is a staple of sci-fi, from Dune to Gundam to X-COM to Mass Effect to Starship Troopers. That's not even getting into The Force from Star Wars, the franchise Star Fox takes most of its inspiration and flavor from.Even if the Krazoa stuff had ended up sticking around, it wouldn't have been out of place; Star Fox had plenty of mystical elements even back in the SNES era. Peppy had telepathy, he used it to sense enemies at a few points in the comic. Andross did too, it was the explanation for how he enslaved the Venomians and made obstacles appear out of thin air on Venom. The manual said Monarch Dodora was the living spirit of Fortuna itself. 64 and Zero both have the "Is Fox's dad really dead? Is he a ghost?" thing. Hyperspace sometimes involves some weird shit, like the blurry space bird that leads to Out of this Dimension in the SNES game, or Meteo's psychedelic rainbow warp in 64.
>>738642584Yuh and?Obviously the guy in charge of the project will think of ways to make it more enticing to consumers. But nothing about Miyamoto's remark has him ACTUALLY regretting or loathing the idea, as you try to pose.He was asked if they could finally release starfox2, he agreed. It wasn't some huge tug of war, or fight of ideals like you imply. He just made a joke over the game being a known but unreleased title. He's done similar constantly through his career.You fags need to stop pulling words or malice into his actions.
>>738642913>Peppy had telepathy, he used it to sense enemies at a few points in the comic.The fuck? That's really wack.>>738642797people like you are boring as Hell anon.So many sci-fi series have magic, mysticism, or telepathy.
>>738642926I never said anything about "regretting or loathing the idea," I said Miyamoto and Nintendo didn't give enough of a shit to remember it in the first place until other people brought it to their attention.Slurp Shiggy's cock some more, anon. You owe it to him for these dozens of brilliant Star Fox titles we've been getting, after all.
I never knew this fucker was saying "good luck", always thought "grid lock" and didn't understand what he was on about.
>>738634008It's a very Japanese series consistency thing. Like how every Dragon Quest game has a generic "demon lord" with a new design, every Castlevania game has Dracula...
>>738643426>every Castlevania game has DraculaNo, that one was pretty thoroughly subverted not that far in.
>>738642287>You've become so strongIt's actually quite meaningful
>>738642287It blows my mind how emotional the true ending is for me despite being simple and cliche. I tear up every time. 64 just clicked in a way no other game in the series has.
>>738645035Cliches are cliche for a reason. Because they're simple and truthful, like a melody that never loses its beauty.
>>738642584>Don't be a disingenuous little faggot.On /v/? No can do
>>738639472You get hit+ bonuses whenever you hit something with the charge shot's blast radius.The wording is intentional: you can kill a singular enemy fighter with the blast radius because you hit a nearby wall with the charge shot and it'll still award you hit+1. In fact, score runs never use homing charged shots because of this; unaimed charged shots are faster and award more points.There's also the fact some terrain features also award hit+ when struck by a charged shot despite being indestructible
What are some other levels in games that make you feel as hype as you do in Area 6?
>>738645926Sector Y is the closest thing to area 6. But its not really close.
>>738632309in the original Japanese version he does mention it being off but brushes it off
Am I the only one that likes the Lylat voices?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSDJMB5cghI
>>738647293Probably not, but I think it just sounds kinda silly. Would've been interesting if they made an actual conlang for it, even if it was just a "simple" one. Big fan of conlangs.
>>738645926That level is a masterpiece in game design>Level is the biggest killfest in the game, really feels like you're up against the entire enemy force and they're throwing everything at you>Your allies are confident, excited and cocky>Gayman and the Commander getting more terrified as you go on>Great Fox helping out with its huge lasers>Andross jumping in your comms to taunt you>Venom slowly getting tantalizingly bigger as you advance
>>738643218Location confirmed, sending surprise
>>738647604Versus the SNES version of the lead-up to Venom where it was a proper humbling and a massive difficulty tweak.
>>738621635Kek
>>738635468It's heavily implied that Andross (or at least his army) destroyed Cerinia, leaving Krystal as the sole survivor. My guess is they left her alive so they could use her to channel the power of the Krazoa to revive himself.
>>738641572I remember there being a shot of it above the Cornerian city at the end of 64, pretty sure they show off just how massive it is there
>>738620521Consider that the entire reason James was betrayed was because he wasn't paying his crew because everything went to maintenance.
>>738636480Skill issue
>>738639405>Has anyone ever tried an absolute minimum score run where the starfox team basically does it for free?Honestly, I'm going to try that lol
>>738654886Same anon here. Stage 1 completed
>>738656657that ain't falco
>What other games have funny canonical endings?Blast corps, destroying entire cities because they can't just have a truck take turns.
Would Star Fox work for Andross if the pay was better?
>>738656657Meteo and Fortuna down
Smashification Ray!
>>738658030>pretending the problem is the legs when falco looks like a fucking pheasantretard
>>738658240falco is a pheasant...
>>738618673Slippy should have been a girl from the start, and I'll die on that hill. I know that he's supposed to be the young, boyish engineer type, but adding a low-stakes girl that none of the group are really sexually attracted to who can kinda hold her own in a fight and is a brilliant inventor would have really rounded out the group. Hell, it even adds a neat dynamic with Krystal later.
>>738658004Still only at 1 point after Sector X and Z. Bolse is going to be tricky though
>>738630162Kosher is about dietary restrictions. Jews don't eat pigs because that would be cannibalism.
>>738658523>a low-stakes girl that none of the group are really sexually attracted to who can kinda hold her own in a fight and is a brilliant inventorSounds like some Velma Dinkley trash
>>738658240>”Personally, I prefer the ground!”
>>738629739What the hell is an SPW?What the hell is a speed of M4.2?
>>738659337M4.2 (in atmosphere) implies Mach 4.2
>>738658843Apparently, I fucked up because you're supposed to have your allies shoot down the missiles in Sector Z. Whoops.Apparently, there are videos of low score runs in the 20s.
>>738659337Spacehorse PoWer
>>738630723In Jap Falco says there's something off about his ship but that it probably doesn't matter
>>738623497But how did Fox and his crew manage to get all new Arwings and upgrade the Great Fox for Assault?I mean shit at least I can believe Adross remanent forces hanging out in space building up power.
>>738639946It still looks a lot more like the 64 version than assault.
>>738619284Could be something like Starsector. A new battleship there costs 1 million, but the setting uses space bitcoin. The devs confirmed that individual transactions for everyday people take place in fractions of credits.
>>738640052>Stress-induced hallucination.That magically knows the way out of an exploding fortress?
>>738660087>Trust your instincts.
>>738658973Are you saying that the idea of space frog velma is unpalatable for general audiences? There would be so much porn made. Shit that might be the only way to get all of Nintendo's space bounty hunters to "do their job" in a way that doesn't make them look bloodthirsty and ruthless; A game thats just mission based and Scooby Doo in space fighters with Captain Falcon, Samus, and Starfox would probably work. You could even introduce Mach Rider as a wildcard character, with a similar reveal like Samus had
>>738628848He was a real space ghostHe came back from the afterlife just long enough to guide his son
>>738622980> The Great Fox was nuked in Assault to open up the aparoid homeworldPepper (or whomever leads Corneria afterwards, I forget Assault) is a stingy bastard. If Aparoids are a galactic scale threat then paying out a new GF shouldn't be the least of the fucking reward.
>>738659657I imagine Pepper had to basically hand them an IOU at the end of 64. The capital city of Corneria was demolished, most of the military was trashed, there was damage across the system, planets like Aquas and Zoness had their ecosystems fucked by pollution and would require extensive restoration efforts, etc etc, and all of that would take top priority. Fox is a bleeding heart and would accept the standard token hiring fee for the time being, knowing that Pepper was good for the rest of it, but that was one of the motivating factors behind Falco's decision to split. By the end of Adventures the system government had recovered enough to properly remunerate Star Fox for their accomplishments during the war, on top of another paycheck for saving the planet Sauria, leading to Fox's decision to shell out for the fancy new Arwings, Landmasters, and renovations to the Great Fox.
>>738659657From the money they got from the adventures job.
>>738617373>Fire several charged shots into a boulder before destroying itThat'll be sp$512 + tip
>>738635794I don't think it was malice. I think it was just that the 64 was so close to release and didn't think it would sell.Dunno why they didn't just use it to make Starfox 64 2 tho.
>>738629548>Not wanting to see Pigma painfully turn into a biomechanical monster in hyper-realistic graphics.
>>738640348I like Star Fox and SnP.Not sure why you included JFG
>>738640218Peppy mostly exists to be the mentor guy. Swapping Krystal in is fine. They just have to make her an actual character.
>>738661957Because its a space game I think despite being completely different types of gamesNow I feel like a more realistic looking JFG would have been unanimously well received compared to Star Fox.
>>738662118Oh, but Jet Force Gemini is a significantly worse game than the other two.
>>738662018Hard disagree. Peppy is more than a mentor he is a father figure and also the old grumpy patriarchal figure tasked to keeping the three "boys" on the team on track with their duties. He has a distinct role and relationships with each member of the team independent of just being "the mentor". Krystal meanwhile has no obvious characrer traits and more importantly clear relationship dynamics with the other characters. Yeah she and fox are romantically attracted to each other but what do they do with each other when they aren't gazing eyes at each other or when a mission isn't happening? What exactly is krystal's dynamic eith the other teammates? Like you said they have to make her an actual character but with the lack of development and history she had in the franchise I'm equally as willing to have peppy's replacement be any new character.
>>738662397Just admit you hate women, bro.
>>738662250True, but I love that game unconditionally
>>738640068>missed medal on Corneria>missed medal on SY>Aquas is fine, one of the best levels to optimize but very hard>Zoness should be 250>Looks like someone stole a few missiles in SZ>sub-300 A6>Perfect Hard Venom6/10, you tried, but not hard enough.
https://youtu.be/jbVYXZDrsiE
I don't know if the modern /v/ brainrotted zoomie can appreciate what a masterpiece SF64 is, but the 3 kiddos who get it are in for a treat. As a boomer the most disappointing thing about this remake is how memorable the game is, so it feels like I played it yesterday when it was 50 years ago
Reminder than in Command the replacement Great Fox is just an old cargo hauler hastily converted into a carrier that has zero in the way of defenses and explodes from a single missile.
>>738658843Remember to post your invoice when you're done. God speed anon. How the hell are your allies all so healthy
>>738630728I liked Slippy in Assault. He tells Falco off and makes him shut up.
>>738662604I love women but I dont like Krystal. Even among canine furries she's mid
>>738664020post five better canines than her
>>738635512NOEEWW, THAT'S TYOO LOWWW!
>>738635512>steals toys from children and makes them buy it again>steals ancient artifacts from old people>steals high tech gizmos from you that are required to beat one specific puzzle and then never used againWhat the fuck was his problem?
>>738664363He needed money to help his mother in the hospital.
>>738658359>a pheasant named after a falcon
>>738620521I thought the Star Fox team's dynamic in Adventures was cool.
>>738664645I thought he was named after a German pop artist
>>738664645How silly, it's like a house cat named after a lion, or a horse named after a cupcake.
>>738635540Monkeys have been persecuted their whole life unfairly because of their beliefs. 109 places hated them for no reason at allThat's why they needed Venom for themselves
>>738661285Probably the highlight of Assault with how fucked up it is.
>>738641834This was being steeply discounted for weeks and was even $5.99 for a few days before it was sold out.Why didn't I buy one when I had the chance? :(
>>738665062And he somehow manages to survive in at least one story path in Command.
>>738640218Peppy's fucking old, dude. The only reason why he's flying with Fox in 64 is because there's literally no one else.>>738635205Miyamoto's always been a screw-up that's tanked partnerships for Nintendo, I don't know how he's managed to get away with it for so long.
>>738663417Which makes zero sense since the SF team should be rolling in cash after assault.
>>738640052https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUTYjy9qB1QHe's probably a ghost since Andross can see him as well at the end of Zero
>>738643218REBORT
>Trying to play SF64 on the Switch>Controls are funkyShould I shell out for an N64 controller or will I get used to this, game doesn't explain shit
>>738665720What is training mode?
>>738662397I mean, everything you said is more indicative of Krystal being used poorly, not that Krystal shouldn't have taken Peppy's spot as pilot while he became an authority figure. His arc from 64 through Command is one of the few things that doesn't need any adjustments.
>>738664756>HEY EINSTEIN, ROCK ME AMADEUS!
Star Fox should take more notes from Wonderful 101.Make Fox into Red, Falco into Blue, Peppy into Nelson, and Krystal into Alice.There, all fixed.
>>738666143I only agree in the sense that Krystal being cold and detached was never conveyed well. These are the exact same archetypes between both games already, we don't really need to change the others, they're already like that.
I really wanna see them keep the new art style for a sequel, because there's only three ways it can go and all of them are hilarious.>Krystal keeps her huge knockers, it looks weird as fuck.>Krystal loses her knockers, people rage.>Krystal is ignored again, extreme rage.
>>738666445Krystal’s tits should get even bigger
>>738666445Krystal, whether you like it or not, is unequivocally the most popular Star Fox character, so it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. But Nintendo is so fucking politically correct nowadays that even if she does get added, I don't see them giving her large breasts.
>>738666674They've spent the last ten years giving their characters fatter asses and bigger tits, the fuck are you on about?
>>738666598I'm not sure you can make them much bigger than Assault without it looking weird as hell.
>>738617162How come not more people talk about Wild Blue Skies?
>>738666895No release date.
>>738666895>64 but gay furry
>>738666895Most people aren't gay and these designs are clearly made for hard gay faggots.
>>738666895Designs like this really just remind me of how fucking retarded gay furries in particular are, because they are incapable of making designs that appeal to others besides them. Kings of Hell had this same exact issue.
>>738639405>dont abuse the charge shot along the ground,This takes way more skill than youre leading on, and is intentional design to give the game more skill. Except for some exploits like on solar
>>738617162>Hire mercenaries to deal with an issue your alleged military is incapable of dealing with>Get upset when they asked to be paidI'm nooticing...
>>738665062Top 10 moments nintendo got DARK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Bq9hAlsLcReminder that Scales has always been and was always going to be a jobber
>>738624247Underrated
>>738667768>Designs like this really just remind me of how fucking retarded gay furries in particular are, because they are incapable of making designs that appeal to others besides them. Kings of Hell had this same exact issue.KoH is a game that's supposed to cater to them and only them though. (No, it being not straight up porn doesn't mean it's for everyone). I'd say it's more like Tribal Island/Changed where they're blatantly fetish games that try to get passed off as normal games but even the normal gamers aren't fooled by that.
>>738668481Oh if only you knew.
>>738668481>Tribal Island/Changed where they're blatantly fetish games that try to get passed off as normal gamesdo they though
>>738668342And you retards said this was the better version? This looks like a clownshoes production more than Adventures was
>>738668893It's charming, fuck off
>>738668342>Get his back broken and is promptly forgotten about.Absolute jobber.
>>738668591To be fair if you knew nothing about Changed Puro is a completely innocuous character. Even then, I assume most kids would recognize him as a Roblox character.>>738668679I distinctly remember the write up GOG did for Tribal when it released on their store as painting it like any other game while all the comments called it out. Changed bills itself as a difficult game while ignoring the entire TF aspect of it.
>>738669324It just makes it ironic when people act like he's this GigaChad that cucks Fox, despite being the easiest boss fight in video game history in Adventures, and in Dinosaur Planet he breaks his spine and is never seen again in the beginning of the game
>>738623193Without the solar/aquas cheese, 2k is probably attainable. Scored my best last night a little tipsy.This is a mid corneria (shouldve restarted desu but thats my austistic code of honor is to never reset) asteroid, and macbeth that i couldve gotten an extra 70 points with a sum of best scores on each level.
why did they make the easy route the most fun one?
>>738669953*sum of best on all levels, as in +20 here and there
>>738647293Never knew about this all these years.https://youtu.be/_nHR4RsMc0g
>>738658843 here. I fucked up royally in Bolse, mainly because you're supposed to have your allies shoot down the missiles in Sector Z and go to Area 6. Oh well, I still did my best in Venom.>>738663664>How the hell are your allies all so healthyKeep in mind they come back one stage later at full health after being knocked out
>>738670497Also, the invoice. Pepper doesn't say anything if your score is low enough lol
>>738619425>smug.gif>no (you)s>thread livinghave that pity (you) that you desire
>>738670497How long did you have to wait to kill the first boss?
>>738620710I cant believe Slippy is the father of pepe the sad frog
>>738666674>Krystal, whether you like it or not, is unequivocally the most popular Star Fox characterYou have the situation mistaken. She's popular but not because of anything star fox. She's popular because of horny furfags. >>738666856She doesn't really have that much bigger breasts in assault. They just shrunk her waist and made her near barbie toll proportions. In adventures Krystal had a more believable female build.
>>738665062I found this more silly than scary. Pigma's face here ruined the tension a bit and I couldn't take the situation seriously during the fight.
>>738665824On the contrary. Krystal should not have been used as peppy's replacement if they couldn't work out how she would be used as a member of the star fox team. For assault she's just there and doesn't provide any interesting banter between characters and her telepathy is very useless and barely is any different from just analyzing the current situation.
>>738634351Ganon is almost always the final boss. Links awakening, minish and majora are the only games without him
>>738634723HES QUICK, BE CAREFUL!
>>738628848
>>738671835I don't know the exact time, but at least a few minutes
>>73861716283392 / 1303 = 64i fucking kneel bravo kojima
>>738670497>>738670581Lmao. Thanks bro. I almost wonder if there is a better way than this
>>738673676I never made that connection.
>>738672525In a series where you mostly shoot at big ass fucking heads in space its completely in tone with the series. FAKE fans getting filtered yet again
>>738672427>You have the situation mistaken. She's popular but not because of anything star fox. She's popular because of horny furfags>visually appealing characters that stand out get the most popularOK? Not seeing your point.
Man Nintendo was really on edge with the GameCube, no? There were at least two games where financial bankruptcy are an important plot point, Star Fox Adventures and Pikmin 2.
>>738666895thinly-veiled gay furfaggotryno saturday morning cartoon vibes at all
>>738631086Spacebucks?
>>738635205>Cancelled Twilight Princess two for a shitty shooting gallery mini gameYou don't hate Miyamoto enough
>>738640338Thats just the guardian angel of the person manifesting
>>738666895The design tells me its gay porn adjacent so no thanks.
>>738657761Pretty sure Fox is at least half in it for the revenge instead of just the money
>>738658973more like lucca
>>738632376Have you never hired a service worker before? They do call you sir.
>>738635205Look at the context. The N64 was coming out later that year and the PS1 was chewing into Nintendo's marketshare. Releasing a 3d game that looked worse than PS1 games wouldn't be good optics and would confuse a lot of parents buying video games for Little Timmy.>The Nintendo games look worse and are coming out later? I'm not getting the Nintendo 64.
>>738660087Fox knew the way out because it was the way in, in reverse. The hallucination of his father helped him realize it.
>>738672986It's almost perfectly 50/50.>Zelda 1, Ganon>Zelda 2, not Ganon>ALttP, Ganon>LA, not Ganon >OoT, Ganon>MM, not Ganon>Oracles Games, not Ganon on first game, Ganon on second>WW, Ganon>MC, not Ganon>4S, not Ganon>TP, Ganon>PH, not Ganon>ST, not Ganon>SS, not Ganon>ALBW, Yuga possesing Ganon>BotW, Ganon>TotK, Ganon>EoW, not Ganon
>>738660087It was a manifestation of his instincts. His father's words basically spell it out
>>738670497Couldn't you skip bose entirety by having allies steal missile kills in sector z? I feel like even with a stray last minute missile or two and all of venom 2 you could save a lot, albeit it'd be way harder
>>738678415>Zelda 2, not GanonThey all work for him>4S, not GanonGameCube version has ganon final boss >ST, not Ganon>SS, not GanonBoth games use ganon/dorf substituteswith maladus/demise that he may as well be there, hell Demise is the progenitor Ganon>EoW, not GanonStill a boss. Even though he’s not the final boss each time, the experience of fighting him is usually there in some form
Don't let the thread die yet.
>>738675938"Thinly"
>>738680118>EoW>Still a boss. Even though he's not the final boss each time, the experience of fighting him is usually there in some formMight as well throw in LA because of that one part of the final boss.
>>738681334Ok post your high score
>>738679726Yes, but they only go after the missiles if they aren't being chased by an enemy (which they almost always are)
>>738682148
>>738681334I'm just amazed and delighted we can actually have Star Fox threads again.>>738682148I posted my SF64 top score earlier, so here's mine from SF2.
>>738683586Yeah.
>>738683581Spam break on a6
>>738686210*brake
Bump.
>>738617162>things I didn’t realize as a kidEveryone is in the sub on aqua. That’s why they also scream when you die
>>738628229>>738634141If only Command was about choosing three campaigns: Star Fox, Star Wolf or Star Vixen (unlockable). And you would only have three endings (with Star Fox being obviously the canon one where everyone is happy)
>>738634141>Star Vixen>Immediately crash their arwings
>>738669324>>738669794That's because Drakor, the semi-final boss of Adventures was going to be the true big bad and Scales' boss. I would have preferred this and save Andross as an optional non-canon secret boss.
>>738647293>goyim goy goyim goyim goy goyimWhat did Wolf mean by this
>>738690125Weren't the Krazoa going to be the true antagonists?
>>738647293The death sounds in Lylat are funny.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILEHG_16Wwk
>>738690289Not sure, they would have been boring with what we've learnt compared to Drakor.
>>738690125This level is basically where they ran out of money for the game and Nintendo stopped answering their calls or something
DE TACH the rear ve-hicle
>>738691239More like Rare had to scramble and boot the game out the door before the sale to Microsoft was finalized
>>738618362You're forgetting ship repair and maintenance for the Great Fox, four Arwings, a Landmaster and Submarine, ship mortgage payments(If James hadn't already paid it off), fuel costs, docking and berthing fees, food, clothing, medical supplies, legal fees(contract negotiations), insurance, and taxes.I really hope that Space Dollars are really strong otherwise those potential costs are eye watering.>>738620525This anon gets it.>>738625629I'm assuming they're like ISK from EVE Online lore wise where it's really strong and only a couple SP$ can feed a large medium class family for a year.Financing Starships yet alone having an effective form of cash in space are each their own can of worms.https://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/starshipowner.phphttps://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/money.php
>>738641834Instead of another fucking xwing it would be nice to get a lego arwing.
>>738639749it was one of those "James' friend pigma died when he betrayed us" thing, and the logo is in memory of the pigma they thought they knew
>>738618362>assuming 1SPD = 1USDFor all we know, 1SPD = 1 million USD. It's a fictional sci-fi universe after all.
>>738693496What if they are yen?
wtf is planet Papetroon??? That's not on the map
>>738691725yer' very lucky
>>738683581Should be able to get 300 on Meteo. Still very good.
>>738691239The thing that actually murdered the game's development was the Microsoft buyout.
>>738693993Nintendo let it happen.
is this canon
>>738692196I wish people would have instructions and what pieces for mocs like that.
>>738694043So, would tendies all circle jerk grabbed by the ghoulies and Perfect Dark Zero?
>>738693817Backported lore from the Star Fox comic by Benimaru Itoh. Basically a planet of Australian outback.
>>738694409>Fox is AustralianWhat in the goddamn?
>>738694462He is Mel Gibson
>>738694462>MISSION ACCOMPLISHED>Report in ya cunts.
>>738694340I would not call that game bad. It's basically just DMC but for kids.
>>738694335lot of motherfuckers sell MOC instructions on their patreon lol bastards
>>738694043Because Rareware wasn't their priority.
>>738694887And that's why they lost in the GameCube era and had to rely on gimmick shit
>>738694937The GC was born with shit marketing. Having your games with the Rareware stamp didn't help the N64 beat PlayStation.
>>738694779I hate these greedy cunts. The internet used to be filled with people who did things just because they were possible and because they wanted to. Now every modder thinks he is going to get hired by Bethesda, or that making a mod is going to give him clout in the community. Now, even lego enthusiasts are trying to make money off this shit? IIRC, lego gives out instructions for free on their website now.
>>738695149Yeah, everyone's trying to build a portfolio or make a hustle or some shit. I wish people'd just be happy with like optional donations but no, no, let's wall off everything
>>738695096And yet they still made up a quarter of their best selling titlesAdventurers was also in their Top 20 best sellers for the GameCubeNintendo should have focused on prioritizing getting them, letting them go the way they did left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths for a very long time
>>738694293This is just china fucking over America, is this the true deus ex? Did assault predict Covid with the aparoids?
>>738669324Anglar army sucks so much ass, no wonder why they always go back to andross.
>>738672427>They didn't make her boobs bigger, they just made everything except her boobs and ass smaller.A distinction without a difference. Her proportions in Assault are teetering right at the edge of being grotesque. Not even saying "you can't make her boobs bigger" so much as "you would need to adjust her body to keep up."
>>738683586Nice score mang
>>738694340Even the died complain about n64 games like dk64 and tooie. Geist was a GameCube exclusive and everyone forgets that shit existed.
>>738695730Damn, nice job anon
I've come to realize most people who complain about Star Fox don't even play Star Fox. The N64 sequels told a complete story and nobody who whines about returning to Lylat Wars even gives a shit who Dash Bowman or Amanda are. The various "retreads" are all trying to do different things and make sense as to why they exist. Like, hell, I hate Zero, but I understand what it was doing and respect it (trash story *execution* nonwithstanding; what they were trying to do made sense).
>>738695907Expert New Game+ is really fun, I don't know when I'll get good missle damage RNG like that in a faster run though, I always seem to waste a lot of in-game time moving to stop satellite viruses.
>Like 2, 64, DP (not SFA), Assault, and Command>Zero is meh>Can't stand 1Did I get filtered? Will EX solve my woes?
>>738695943Zero tried to make cornerian government out to be scummier, but the rail shooter format doesn’t lend itself to plots more complicated that Star Wars esque black and white morality.
>>738683586>>738695730>only 5% damage knocks off nearly 25% of your potential score>but then you realize Andross would have likely targeted the major cities first, which contained a far greater percentage of the population...Huh. Clever.
>>7386960451 is to the snes what goldeneye is to the n64. It was a killer app at the time that did what seemed impossible for the console,But now it’s just a simple curiosity that doesn’t stand the test of time.
>>738695356>two of the Top 20 are Star Wars gamesInteresting.
>>738696045Why don't you like 1?
>>738696067It does that, and it tries to pull some timeline convergence stuff between the Argonaut and Japanese games which is kinda neat, but the dialogue really fails it. It leans too hard on you already being invested and keying in on the changes and nuances while simultaneously asking the player to not mind it undercutting itself to wink and nod and gesture at the gimmicks.It's a real shame, because I think that if they went in with less extreme gimmick focus and were more willing to put effort into the writing, the revised version of the branching map makes for a great way to tackle more complex storytelling. I think they realized that they goofed with the writing too, given the remake is so focused on it.
>>738695943>I've come to realize most people who complain about Star Fox don't even play Star Fox.Alot to unpack here but I myself played Adventures and moreso Assault a lot back when I thought we were gonna get Star Fox Wii. Adventures's story was ass and Assault's was a bit half baked if perfectly serviceable. The Star Wolf teamups and final battle were pretty cool.>The N64 sequels told a complete story and nobody who whines about returning to Lylat Wars even gives a shit who Dash Bowman or Amanda are.Because Command's story was embarrassingly bad, I've never played the game but literally EVERYONE I've seen play it and mention the story says the same thing. Shit plays out like bad fanfiction.>The various "retreads" are all trying to do different things and make sense as to why they exist. Like, hell, I hate Zero, but I understand what it was doing and respect itZero might have been good if Shiggy Miggy had just let Platinum make a fun and replayable game with good controls, instead they were forced to make a tech demo with a retarded dual screen gimmick so Nintendo could "prove" why the Wii U Gamepad was innovative. I liked the gamepad but Zero's gimmicks were godawful.
>>738696193I mean I still think Goldeneye is fun and I didn't play it until 2009. It's clunky as fuck but the design holds up.>>738696264Slow.I feel like the low frame rate gives me too little control over fine movements.Visual feedback is poor.
>>738696261Shadows of the Empire was legit massive for its time
>>738696189Kinda annoying that missile damage ranges anywhere from 5% to like 40% depending on which ones hit, the Total Time is kind of insane with how much it contributes to a high score if you can get it as low as possible.
>>738696371>First partI meant the people who whine every time a new game comes out. There's nothing wrong with criticizing them. I also think Adventures is ass. I mean the sort who parrot canned critique.>Because Command's story was embarrassingly bad>I've never played the game butPlease form your own opinion.I think the dialogue is super ass, but the actual *narrative* is pretty good.>Less gimmick focusI agree in the sense that they let jerking off the gimmick overtake actual level design, but the gimmick itself ended up pretty good. Removing the gyro and second screen wouldn't make it better.
>>738696264I adore SNES Star Fox but fuck this boss specifically lmao. Also really annoying that you don't get a targeting reticle in the third-person view.
>>738696543>Score Attack devolves into Time Attack after a certain point.Classic design problem.
Do regular non-sentient animals exist in the Lylat system?
>>738696760Yeah, but they all have human skin and hair.
>>738696574>I meant the people who whine every time a new game comes out. There's nothing wrong with criticizing themCriticizing them for what exactly though? Not being happy with Nintendo's continued refusal again and again to just make a new game that moves the story forward while bringing natural evolutions of the gameplay to the table (Star Fox 2 did this wonderfully before being canceled btw)? Not really sure what else you mean, unless you're one of those guys that thinks people just want Star Fox 64's story beats over and over like Nintendo apparently does.>but the gimmick itself ended up pretty good.Why is repeatedly pressing the minus button to swap screens on my TV better than just playing it like a normal Star Fox game though? Also fuck binding all of the Arwing maneuvers to the right stick instead of keeping the intuitive scheme everyone liked.
>>738696760Half the enemies you fight in the first game are alien wildlife
>>738697000>Not being happy with Nintendo's continued refusal again and again to just make a new game that moves the story forward while bringing natural evolutions of the gameplay to the tableCharacterizing it like this when 64 only shared the basic premise and names, 3D was just a cool tech demo + giving Dylan a shot at making his own Arrange Mode for 64, and Zero was a game jam that tried to reinterpret Star Fox 1 and 64 as a single entity is pretty fucking stupid.I also wish they did something weirder, but shit like>They remade it for a fourth time!!! Woah!!!is disingenuous nonsense. A funny meme that retards who don't actually play these games took seriously.>Are you saying gimmick make it better?No, moron. I'm saying the game's level design and enemy patterns are far bigger problems than the gimmicks themselves. The existence of the gimmicks are fine, but the game drowns in them.
AH...SOMEONE WANTS TO PLAY.
Quite, I'm jerking it!
