>VC1 released on the PS3>Was a unique war time strategy jrpg>For some reason the two following sequels were PSP games>3 never leaving the land of Nippon, 3 being really good, 2 being dogshit>Series pretty much died even though it was pretty cool>A few years go by since 3 Sega decides to re-release VC1 on Steam (During when Steam was getting a shitload of JRPGs being ported over)>It sells amazingly well(mostly due to it being a very cheap buy)>And thus reignites interest in the series>Sega in their infinite wisdom>Decides the best way to capture this new audience is to...>Release the shitty spin off Valkyria Revolution that TANKED the series >Only on... PS4/Vita! Completely skipping the platform that reignited interest in the series!>To correct this massive flop... >A year later they released VC1.. Remastered.. which changed nothing... I guess Switch players could play it!>Not so long after that they released VC4...!>Xbox gamers didn't buy it because all they played was cod>PS4 gamers didn't buy it because all they played was fifa>Switch gamers didn't buy it because they don't buy third party>PC players got burnt hard and gave up on the series after saving it
>>738641478TL/DR. HE'RES SYLVARIA BLESS IN A BUNNY OUTFIT.
ah yes, the mistake that caused the series' downfall was not bringing the shitty spinoff Valkyria Revolution to PC. That's the reason VC4 flopped.
Never finished this until now because my PS3 died before completing itYou guys weren't kidding about how overpowered scouts are
>>7386414782 made sense to me but the gameplay sucked3 onwards was just full on retarded anime cringe
I really like those games but they are nothing compared to MY goat.
>>738641973So fucking underrated. I would one day like to see this appear on steam.
VC gacha when?
>>738641973>>738642021i've never heard of this game
>>738641478>Xbox gamers didn't buy it because all they played was cod>PS4 gamers didn't buy it because all they played was fifa>Switch gamers didn't buy it because they don't buy third partyWhat you describe is the exact climate the first VC released in. The only reason for VC's death is SEGA's mismanagement of their teams.
>>738641478I don't fully agree with your analysis, but it is true the series was badly mismanaged. It's a shame, too, because it had potential.>>738641778The other entries kinda-sorta try to address that issue in various ways, but are never entirely successful. VC3 probably does the best job of balancing the classes overall.
>>738641478>Completely skipping the platform that reignited interest in the series!Are you sure? I remember the PC version being a buggy disaster that was never patched. It blows out your ears with static at random times and then crashes if the map has more than a handful of units on the go.They probably correctly assessed that they were incapable of a 1st rate PC port and decided against it. Then when it sold badly on console it was shitcanned. No point pissing more money up the wall when it's a confirmed flop.Face it. The "steam will save us" meme is just a meme. It mattered when games locked to PS3/WiiU - the badly selling consoles - found a larger audience on PC. But it doesn't work when you're talking about the PS4 (and switch) - the biggest selling consoles since the PS2. If it sells badly on those platforms, it's gonna tank on PC.
>>738641778Strategy RPGs all have the same issues. Movement is like 90% of a unit's worth. The one that can move twice as many spaces in a turn is god tier. Combined with the infinite freeze time on aiming and the overkill headshot damage, it made scouts absurdly good. Snipers can't move much and they miss even when the circle is entirely over the enemy hitbox so they are a waste of a turn and unit so many times. Shocktroopers can't rush down the enemy and the damage falloff on their guns is so large it takes two turns to do what a scout can do in one. Lancers, bad movement, can miss point blank... See the pattern? The scout is the only unit you can rely upon to move into position and hit what you aim at.
>>738643709you are THE most schizophrenic poster I've ever seen
>>738641778it's more that Orders are overpowered, since they make scouts nearly invincible and let you blow up tanks. But it's funnier this way.
>>738641478So VC4 is not worth it ? I got it in a bundle with VC
>>738641478100% correct and i'm still mad it cost us a potential good game series. Im dearly loving 1 and 4 tho and this will never change.
>>7386445594 is just as good as 1. Its should have been their second game and not psp exclusive.
>>738641583BASED. THANK YOU.
>>738644853Aaah nice. Thanks for the infos, will I miss anything if I didn't play 2 and 3 storywise or is it self contained ?
>>7386445594 is great and basically a direct sequel to 1story drags alot halfway through but the gameplay improves so much that I didnt mind really
>>738643938VC attempts to mitigate movement superiority with the way you can retreat and recall units from base to base, but there aren't many maps where that's truly useful compared to just pressing ahead with your scouts.
>>738645140I wish it wasn't Gallians all over again.
>>738641478But what made the first game so good and the rest of the series not so good? What if we are gaslighting ourselves about the quality of the first game
>>7386450463 and 4 take place at same time as 1, while 2 is the only actual sequel. I've only played 1 and 4 but I don't think 4 had any references to 3, besides maybe very minor stuff
>>738645605nah, VC1 was a great game, not perfect, but great. the problem was they never tried to move on from VC1. every game since has been obsessed with VC1 to an unhealthy degree. The series has potential but they need to just make it like Ace Combat or Final Fantasy where the games aren't all set in the same world and they only revisit previous worlds every few entries.
>>738645948They need to do like Ace Combat and put a jpeg of a dog in a cutscene for no fucking reason other than to make me almost break a rib by laughing.
>>738645605It was an above average game at the end of the day. It was also released at the time when people are itching for a new XCOM game and this was shilled as anime XCOM. The lore and characters themselves weren't that original but it had good execution because it is contained into one game. When the devs tried to expand the lore in the subsequent games, it just falls flat because the the world is ultimately shallow in the outset. The gameplay was ultimately flawed because it severely limits movement of characters and it dependent on map design for it to become enjoyable. The future games had shit map design overall.
>>738645368The game's scoring system doesn't really reward any playstyle other than fast clears with minimal turns, which again just reinforces the scout rush being the de-facto tactic on every map.
>>738641778if you thought scouts (read: alicia) were broken with your webm, then wait until you see this one. it's even from the same stage
S C O U T RUSH
>>738641778>>738646347>>738646240lowkey miss this game, lads...
>>738645948>The series has potential but they need to just make it like Ace Combat or Final FantasyI agree with this take. The series needs a fresh take where you keep some of the mythos but tell new stories on new settings.It was a fun mix of military drama and soap opera with great visuals, sounds and gameplay. I buyoughted it day 1, replayed it a few years ago on the remaster and the only thing I didn't like was the new content with the retarded new difficulty for the missions which felt fan-made and out of place.
>>7386414784 was bettet than first. Better gameplay and better side characters. Main story was very animu though like first one and failed to be taken seriously.
>>738641478Barely an RPG at all. It was Hogs of War but with anime girls. Hogs of War is a PS1 game.
>>738645447a different timeframe/ war is asking way too much of them
>>738641478Why not remaster vc2 and 3? And make vc5 a different universe like fire emblem?
>>738645948What I imagined the series would do when I played it on PS3 back in like 2008 was advance from notWWI to notWWII to notVietnam to notVotoms ect and each time the game would change to reflect the changes in advancing technology.
>>738646713knowing the japanese, probably deleted the source code
>>738641478I wish someone would make a actual war game like this, without the weaboo shitjust dirt and smoking and beards and kids drunk on red wine trying to dynamite a wagon full of krauts
>>738641478>PC players got burnt hard and gave up on the series after saving itExtremely delusional
>>738646768It's called Brothers in Arms.
>>738641478It's one of many sunk "military anime" franchises, nobody cares about this stuff anymore unfortunately
>>738641478>>For some reason the two following sequels were PSP gamesThat's because the PS3 was doing poorly because of price point. Valkyria Chronicles was a year one PS3 game.The limitations of the PSP had to compromise gameplay and its sequels were inferior to the first game. Don't be misunderstood, VC3 wasn't a good game, just better than the second.
>>738646739WW1 aesthetic is great though, be a waste to move past it to all those settings that get done a million times over like that. Stick Grenades are way too cool to only be used in one game.
>>738646417>lowkeyKill yourself.
>>738647697This jit GENUINELY wants you to slime yourself out
Just give me another game with Raita's art. It doesn't have to be VC.
>>738645605>But what made the first game so good and the rest of the series not so good?The first game is a flawed gem. It's good, but it's got some glaring issues, scout rushing, floaty controls, glitchy tanks, ineffective units, trope ridden cookie cutter anime story (it's serviceable, but it's definitely generic in terms of characters and themes despite the novel setting). It was one of those games where you overlook it's flaws because it was so refreshing at the time.The sequels, instead of polishing the game mechanics to make it excellent, leaned even harder into cringe generic anime trope (they have a hot springs episode in 4, ffs.)https://youtu.be/gZ7KOqP3_LU?si=0imZrnslSvO5swpr&t=359Ultimately I thought the 1st game was quite good but none of the sequels appealed to me because it is a flawed game and the flaws were never removed by the sequels. They focused too hard on it being an anime first and a good game second. With the sequels, I can watch all the cutscenes on youtube or read the wiki and miss nothing.
>>738645605VC2 and VC3 split maps into "zones" because the limitation of PSP hardware. This turned massive battlefields into little skirmishes. The max deployment of these games were 5 where VC1 and VC4 had 9-11.There were also new classes and unit types but they were still niche and required way more grinding than just universal exp.The problem with VC4 isn't the gameplay, it was the story. It still reused the same war setting as the first game just in a different place. Then there was the whole subplot of using special little girls to fuel your nuclear bombs that sounds so stupid it has to be Japanese.
Aliasse is the best, the most fresh, got the least baggage, with the brightest smiles, and the friendliest Valkyria ever!
>>738648493
>>738647356They were released on PSP to shorten the production time. Sega wanted the sequel to hit the stores at the same time as the anime aired to capitalize on the publicity. Developing a other high-quality PS3 title would've taken so long people would've forgotten about the whole franchise. Also, they wanted a game people could play during commuter trips or at school, with a coop mode. Westoids and their retarded opinions never factored into any of it.
For me it's juliana eberhardt
>>738647356VC3 is better than the first game.
I just bought VC1 on sale for about $2. What am I in for?
>>738649008Interception fire, interception fire everywhere. Also chapter 7 will probably filter you.
>>738649008You are in for a fun time.Man, that's a good deal.
>>738641778>>738643938just stop minmaxxing and use girls you think are cute or realistic squads that contain all classes
>>738649302The cute girls are all scouts....
I didn't finish it because it's too hard for me and I refuse to use some scout cheese tactic
>>738646768this I like the gameplay but anime story and characters are cringe
>>738641478>For some reason the two following sequels were PSP gamesBecause VC1 bombed spectacularly on PS3.>PC players got burnt hard and gave up on the series after saving itSteamies don't buy video games unless they are at bargain bin discounts like the VC1 port
>>738641478There was no rise and there was no fall. All the games are good but people simply did not care about them. Personally I love Valkyria Chronicles. At least the main ones, not the spin-offs that tried going action.
>>738641478You forgot to mention that 4 launched with Denuvo on Steam and it still has not been removed, and never will
>>738649589how did PC save it when it sold less than on PS3?
>>738649357Rosie is a Shocktrooper however
VC4 is marginally better than 2 and 3, but it's still a shit game that doubles down on a lot of the retarded anime shit from the PSP games. It has worse characters, a worse story, and I think the missions are generally pretty bad. It also introduced a fucking enemy tank that does interception fire on its own turn, which is just cancer.
>>738650441Remember that she's voiced by Hedy Burress, the woman who also voiced Yuna in FFX. Kinda funny.
>>738650441She's a hag.
Shocktrooper supremacy
>>738650495She's younger than you, Anon
>>738650575>Over a decade past expirationYuck.
VC2 is great, faggot
>>738649008Codename S.T.E.A.M beta.
>>738650575>Woman presented as mature, already successful and much older than everyone else>Mid 20sEvery fucking time, do Japanese people die at 30 or something?
>>738651096The game is supposed to take place in the 30's or something. Not much to do in life after you hit puberty after all.
>>738650441>>738650495Legoman did so much porn of her
>>738652857>so muchHe barely did shit. Rosie has tragically little porn.
We fucking love raita bananas here
>>7386450461 and 4 have crossover DLC missions, they play at the same time. 2 is a sequel to 1, i played it but it's absolutely not important for anything other than seeing Alicia in mom mode. 3 never came out in the west and there is nothing mentioned about it in the other games anyways. Revolution DOESN'T EXIST.So yeah, just enjoy 1 and 4, the DLCs are worth is but i think they come as a bundle anyways so you might have them anyway.
>>738654092Got it. I wont ask about Alicia because I have not finished VC 1 yet tho it's obvious who the baker want to bred with.
>>738654232VC1 also has an anime btw, made after the game.
>>738654360is it good ?
Why is she so perfect, bros?
VC was never good. It had a generic anime story (the sister's death was the most forced sad thing ever) and the gameplay was an unbalanced mess (scout rushing). At best it was a one and done game and was only ever revered because it was the first and no one knew any better. 2, 3, and to an extent 4 all showed the series had nowhere else to go but down.
>>738656197>anime game has...anime story???OH NO HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN
>>738651096jap games be like, "here's a veteran from that war 10 years ago, in the ripe old age of 25"
>>738656197Shut up, Darcsen.
>>738654416of course not, they throw in a shitty love triangle
>>738648657there was more - during initial announcement of VC, they also announced it for PSP by mistake. This generated a lot excitement for much bigger PSP playerbase at that time, and when it was corrected later, caused backlash against Sega and VC. Sega read this as a hype to release furniture game for PSP instead.Also there was tied in anime for VC1 and OAV for VC3. I found it interesting that they never did VC2 anime, as this had the biggest anime feeling in academy settings.
Are there any other games that did the "turn-based strategy, but real-time when moving an individual unit" gameplay mix? I thought that was very cool when I played VC back in like 2008 or 2009, but I can't think of any non-VC games that copied or iterated on the idea. I think a VC where the 3rd-person shooter gameplay was more fleshed out is would be my GOTY most years.
>>738656487No this is the only series of its kind.
>>738654416i liked it a lot, its pretty faithful
>>738656197asshurt gallian
I like 1 and 22 had slightly stupid setting but gameplay was alright and story actually moved forward 3 wasn't all that bad but it's more of the same(including the god fucking damned story) and i dropped it mid thru(lots of useless yapping and story without any stakes in it)Ive tried 4 but theres barely any difference with 1 and it's again same retarded war which already ended in 1
>>738656253>anime story means automatically badTry watching a good anime for once and don't set your standards based on bad video games.
>>738656857in 4 you were playing as different side of the war - the supposedly 'neutral ally' of Gallia (that still wanted to fuck up Gallia by kidnapping country leaders in first game, but officially you didn't fight against the,). And that country was also doing some fucked up shit to its citizens.
>>738657174>good animeDoesn't exist.
>>738656487Codename Steam
>>738641478I want them to make a remake for Valkyria Chronicles 3.
Remake VC1 , save selvaria, make her romanceable, along with ohers, make bank on big tiddie silver haired goddessis that simple dickheads
>>738641583The series died with her, Sega was so retardedly short sighted, almost as much as Konami and Platinum were with Jetstream Sam.
>>738656528>>738656487there were some niche tittles on PSP and Vita that had exactly the same combat system, but i can't remember the tittlesone of these was a combination of Nonary Game with VC combat, where one of your allies was a traitor that you had to vote out
>>738658267Lost Dimension https://store.steampowered.com/app/626600/Lost_Dimension/
>>738657174>good animeSo not Steins;Gate then, lol
>>738657767I would literally pay a full $70 dollar for it on release(and I'm a third world poorfag so it kinda means something). VC3 is my favorite one story-wise and cast-wise, maybe even gameplay-wise with broken abilities(like Valkyries) being usable but limited, I would love to play it in the VC4 or even VC1 engine, the psp one is outdated as fuck.
>>738646876*hidden and dangerous 1/2
>>738655973Reminder she is descended from filthy invaders and genociders.
Just like I didn't know I needed a Death Stranding / STALKER game, I need a Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker / Valkyria Chronicals 2/3 game.
>>738641610No the real reason VC4 flopped is because they didn't port 2/3.Sorry, but just like Uncharted 4 flopping: You can't skip entries on PC.
>>7386417784 tries to fix it, but it's still a rush game. They really should get rid of the ranking system if they make a 5. It just encourages rush strategies.
>>738642223TRPG based in WW2 where you kill Hitler. It's very janky, to where lowering your equipment weight gives you more turns/speed (I think it's speed only) in terms of square movement to get around the map and get into cover easily.It has it's issues, and given it was Atlus pre-Persona 3 (IIRC), it had a limited print-run in the West whereas the original Japanese copy can probably be gotten for cheap given it wasn't really popular in Japan either given X360.
>>738645046You miss some references, but no.2 is anime high-school bullshit you can skip. 3 is the best story in the series but only the main story is fan translated.
>>738657174You aren't wrong, but>reddit;gateDoesn't help your point much.
>>738649008Animu WW2 and Alica Rush.
Banana Boobs thread?
>>738657224>that still wanted to fuck up Gallia by kidnapping country leaders in first game,I don't recall that, but they DO do a joint exercise with Gallia (Squad 7).If anything, 4's story nosedives when it leaves the Eastern Front to do frogmen shit because they wanted to shoehorn Animu Hiroshima into the game.
>>738645605It's a bit overrated yeah. It came out during a time when the industry shunned turn based strategy and the anime ww2 idea was fresh but the gameplay isn't great. It was a good starting point for a new series but then they shit the bed with the psp game.
>>738660017I can see why they pivoted to the PSP in Japan (it was still on fire there) but VC1 had a big western fanbase and Japan was lukewarm to it IIRC, so it's utterly BAFFLING they decided to spit in the West's face and make it PSP exclusive (at least you could pirate it...?) only to then be shocked people pirated the shit out of it in the West to where they didn't translate 3.
Why was the anime so dog shit?
>>738659879that was imho a nice touch, showing how wary they have to be from their supposed allieshttps://valkyria.fandom.com/wiki/Chapter_09:_A_Midsummer_Incident
>>738641478should i play these? in which order?ALSO: if i can only play one of them, which one?
>>738656360>>738656642Keep whining about your dead franchise I guess.
>>738646347It took a lot of restraint not to cheese every single stage with scouts once I realized how broken they were
>>738641478>For some reasonSales for the original PS3 release were only mild, SEGA didn't think they should invest on the series' future on costly hardware, the PSP was the right and cheaper alternative in their eyes.VC4 only came back to home console and PC due SEGA gambling on the series' resurgence after the re-release of the first game on PC and PS4 doing surprisingly well.
>>738660385The original is the goat. It was the reason none fifa players bought a PS3 in europe.
>>738641478VC4 is really good though. The franchise deserves more credit.
>>738641478Literally just needed dating like Fire Emblem and Persona and it would've been huge
>>738650441Based hag enjoyer
>>738660917Depressing truth
>>738660917>Sir everyone is going for the racist hag!
>>738650449VC4's mc is the worst.Like literally flanderized version of Welkin. Even Avan has more personality (at least Avan is a hot-headed yankee)
>>738641478I didn't really like the story of VC4 (first game in the series I played) but the side stories were so much fun I ended up liking the game based on the side missions and the overall gameplay instead. Gonna play VC1R at some point, too. Sad games like this barely exist these days.
>>738660385Release order. They build on each other with references.If only 1: 1 or 3 (though 1).
>>738648040Disgusting to think he's been wasted on FGO trash for so long
>>738661050I thought he was fine. But the whole waffling when it came time to nuke the capital was stupid, especially since all that waffling the game goes:>OH! OH! CEASEFIRE! CEASEFIRE!As if the Empire wasn't already dealt a blow earlier by Maximillian's death (IIRC it happens like 2-10 gameplay hours before the ship even reaches the capital).
>>738660385Start with VC1. VC4 is a bit more polished in terms of look and gameplay, so you might feel let down by VC1 if you decide to pick it up one day.VC2 and VC3's gameplay have shorter feedback loops and less epic setpieces since they're handheld titles. You can only fully appreciate VC's feel once you start playing the main console ones, IMO.
I'm still waiting fro sega to remove denuvo from 4 so I can buy it. no I don't care that it's been cracked. no I don't care that it's been on sale for under $10. I won't pay a single cent for malware. sorry not sorry.
>>738660385I'd say play chronological order. Start from one and end up with 4. If you don't want to play the lesser titles, just play 1 and 4 in this order.>ALSOIf you only want to play one, play the first one.
>>738657767I still remember back in like 2016 or something sega made a survery and at the end they put >Here's where you can write a request for localization/ports of other Valkryia series titles _________________________.>We aren't going to pretend that's not why you are filling out this survey ;)and they still didn't do shit with VC3
>>738641778The goal of each stage shouldn't be "reach this area with one unit, and you rank higher the faster you do that" and instead should either put a minimum kill requirement or have other required sub objectives like collecting keycards found across the map or disabling barriers/opening doors my operating switches found in heavily guarded areas.I was considering making it so that your entire army has to reach the goal as a win condition, but then you'd only bring scouts with the current system.
I finished VC2 recently, I liked it but the forced grinding and RNG-based promotion / upgrade system pissed me off. Is VC3 any better in that regard?
>>738663226Yes, one of the biggest reasons 3 is superior to 2 is that it gets rid of that awful promotion/upgrade system.
>>738641778VC1? Yeah. After that though devs wised up and started putting shit like gatling bunker or OP robots at chokepoint that could shred scouts like paper so you can't just spam them with orders anymore.
I wrote a whole fanfic about the cold war that immediately follows EW2Valkyria being treated like walking nuclear weapons slash celebrities, Valkyria having families regulated by international treaties, the huge religious schism after it gets out that the Darcsen were oppressed based on a lie, Selvaria's grave being kind of equivalent to that war crime shrine in Japan, all good shitI'll miss this series a lot
>>738643709I finished VC1 for the first time on steam, in windows 7, had no problem with it. Sounds like a ((you)) problem.
>>7386445594 is ok outside of the loli nuke plotline. That shit was retarded. Also, nu- Sylveria was cringe.
>>738663198the minimum kill requirement is whatever you need to clear to get that one unit to the flag without dying. the game is just poorly balanced so you can often just run past them without caring. also I'm pretty sure 2 and 3 did have maps where you had to open doors and shit.
>>738648040I prefer it when he used to draw flat lolis instead of cow monsters.
>>738661050raz should have been the MC
>>738663279That's good to hear, I was getting really burnt out towards the end of VC2. I made the mistake of grinding student events mid-late game, so my credits were all over the place and only a few characters were able to get an advanced promotion without grinding.
We need another game but with Tanya-like character as a protagonist
Edy...
>>738646347>>738660579I just never used orders or upgrades, for me they are built in easy mode
>>7386603851 and 4 are the only ones really worth playing
>>738659304>reddit;gateCope. No anon, the AI isn't lying to you.
>>738641478fuk yea vc thread
>>738667163Frieren and Vinland Saga don't belong on the reddit list. Ontological evil and viking warrior ubermensch make reddit squirm
>>738641778After that dreaded tank battle with Maximilian, I stopped playing this game straight.
what do you all think if they set a new game before vc1 insteadit was mentioned that welkin daddy is a hero from the previous war and raita had old sketches of a medieval looking ww1 and since we have melee units in 2 and 3 why not right?
>>738646450Aika my love..
>>738663226fixed a lot of the shit in vc2 and its the best vc game imca's ending is the most satisfying ending in the entire series
>>738667163didn't you get the memo anon? everything i don't like is reddit
>>738668298anons say that 1 and 4 are the only vc games worth playing
>>738666412yeah I never really use them when I play (other than maybe medic evacs if I fuck up real bad) but I knew about that particular strat and how funny it was, so when I replayed the game with a friend who didn't know anything about the series and when we got to that stage I was just like "hey want to see something really funny?" and then domed selvaria like in the webm
>>738641478I really like the premise of the gameplay but the story and characters kind of sucked ass and the whole storybook look got tiring pretty quick. Definitely would play another if it was you know, good.
>>738668392up to if you want to experience the entire series its not inconvenient to play the psp games since you can emulate them with anythingand 3 has long been translated so I dont see why not unless you cant stomach old graphics...
>Holy shit, kids in war?>War academy? BASED?>.....>Lolis with superpowers appearUninstall
>>7386644044 has an achievement for making all the units veterans. But it's less hassle since you can just grind map one and unit rush them if you get around like level 20-30 before doing it. You gotta command them like 20 times each, so you're just going to sit near the end after killing a few units to 2 turn them with all the commanding units out. Then switch if you don't care about S-ranking the map until you get them done.
>>738667163>Slop reviews
>>738668974did you not play the first game? It's anime as fuck with magical girl nukes blowing shit up
>>738668965what i am asking is: why do you guys disagree?
>2008>Everyone i know including me is xbrahmin after the disastrous launch of the pstripple>For some reason video does the rounds of an asian dude on justin.tv from the show Fourplayerpodcast crying at a character death in VC1>Everyone else thinks its something to ridicule.>I see a man feeling genuine emotion from a gameI bought a PS3 from Gamestation and Folkore, MGS4 and VC1 from Blockbuster on the cheap and thats when i learned it was the team that made skies of arcadia and i ascended.
>>738643709>PS3>badly selling consolesyou fucking retard, it outsold the 360.
>>738668392VC3 is the best one of the series but you can just go play them yourself and make your own opinion anon. You have a brain for that reason
>>738669049you'd prefer a video game journalist?all that bot is doing is counting how many times a topic is mentioned, the worst conceivable case is that he made a mistake.
>>738668974>I'm just going to play this anime game>and expect anything other than nothing from the storyYour fault
>>738669457that's not something you need a brain for. the constraints are other things
I bought a PS3 for this game and got filtered by the tank mission where the 2nd half is getting 1 shot by valk bitch. FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS well spent, at least I got to play the good version of star ocean 4 (there are no good versions of star ocean 4).
>>738669334the platform and the shitty mechanics of 2 that kept people out of the psp games
>>738670230nah it was always the anime aesthetics even though VC1 is just as anime as VC2.Cute pigs with wings and magical girls are fine but school setting is where normalfags drew the line
>>738669451Once it got back on track after a weak early generation, the first 2 years for the PS3 were a struggle, VC1 was released in that timeframe.
>>7386414784 is fucking dog shit and I'm tired of people pretending it's in any way comparable to 1. I legit think 4 is worse than both 2 and 3. Definitely has the worst cast that's for sure.>>738660385Play 1 and forget the series exists.
>3 being really good, 2 being dogshitBiggest lie with this franchise.
>>738670383And VC was released on steam in 2014, after the 7th gen had already ended. It doesn't fucking matter.
btw just to mention vc4's rebalance mod
I dropped 1 when the flying pig showed up.
>>7386705782 is not dogshit but 3 is indeed very good.I think most people don't like 2 because of the sudden change from actual war to generic japanese high school sitcom
>>738670684Is it as good as Gallian Crossfire for VC1?
>>738669435>Fourplayerpodcastthat's a name I haven't thought about in a long time
>>738669451The PS3 sold like shit for many years and was joked about having no games. It caught up years after its hayday
>>738670814We will always remain scooter brothas.
>>738671105Wrong, retard. It was outselling the 360 from the start everywhere apart from the US and other anglo countries, since the 360 was a mutt system. Not only that but people had to buy multiple 360s which inflated the sales numbers. The PS3 had completely outsold the 360 by 2013, but even before then every other country chose the PS3.
I'm honestly surprised SEGA haven't tried rereleasing some kind of complete collection with all the main 4 games. Feels like a wasted opportunity since most people haven't had chance to touch 2 and 3 with them being locked on shitty handhelds.
>>738670338the anime hate is just dumb when its anime right from the start and its artist being known for hentai
>>738658047Killing off Selvaria was the biggest mistake the devs made. Every single game afterward tried "big titty evil bitch" and it just wasn't the same.VC4 did twin flat mesugakis which sounds good on paper but they were written so poorly.
>>738669481
>>738667859>Frieren and Vinland Saga don't belong on the reddit listReddit will twist anything with messages they don't like into AKCHUALLY being 'leftist'.>Chuds lake the media literacy to understand that the Frieren anime is making fun of themect
>>738672006I mean everything about 4 is poorly written.
I beat this last night after dropping it for a couple or so years. For some reason I didn't even bother with the trenches and mortar fire stage, I looked at the briefing and said "I'll do it some other time". Picked it back up now and forgot about a lot of the mechanics like orders until the final boss. Ended up having a shock trooper mag dump into Maximilian with an aim, defense, evasion, and damage order from full health on his second phase. God damn, trying to hit those towers with a Lancer was blood boiling.
>>738667859vinland saga absolutely belongs on that listanything past season 1 is pure reddit
wait is vc4 bad? i got it for a couple bucks during the christmas sale. its seems okay so far but i just started.
>>738672006>VC4 did twin flat mesugakis which sounds good on paper but they were written so poorly.VC4 did another Valkyria with big tits used by the empire but fell in love with a general that cared for her and she lives, can't believe you brought up the very real regret they fell over killing off Selvaria but didn't point out Crymaria is literally an attempt to repeat that character where she lives instead.
>>738672589It's good enough, bitches just like to feed onto their tribalism within a series.
>>738672589it's more VC so if you liked the other games you'll probably like this one too.A big change that makes it better than VC1 is mortars. They make mindless scout rushing way harder, assuming you're playing vanila without any of the balance mods.
>>738672589If you like VC it's worth playing.But if you wan to be critical, it doesn't really do enough as a sequel, the elements it introduces are good, but it's like the series stayed dormant for all these years, it doesn't feel like a number 4, but an expansion to 1, it even goes backwards in some areas compared to 3.
>>738641973Oh shit, core memory unlocked. I played the hell outta this as a kid.
>>7386707283 has everything bad about 2 and makes it worse. What always gets me are the retards that complain about 2 being too anime when 3 has a literal fucking samurai running around. The fencer classline is fucking cool though. Love anti-tank hammers.
>>738672589I found the gameplay to be less fun than 1 due to the shittier mission design and it by far has the worst story and characters in the series which is made worse given it's just a lazy, low effort rehash of 1.
how many of these weapons would actually make sense
>>738672747To be honest I forgot about Crymaria because I blocked most of the game's story from my memory except the lolis and Minerva being a colossal bitch
>>738673432>3 has everything bad about 2 and makes it worse.name them
>>738668348Oh yeah lol
>>738673808Mastery grinding (or whatever it's called) is way WAY worse than grinding for certs.
I don't get the hate for 3. it had the best class balance in the series. scout rushing was less dominant and you had to engage with enemies on the map more. orders weren't as op as in 1 but not as nerfed as in 2. it was the only game in the series with controllable valkyria mode which was fun. you also got to pick which girl you wanted to end with. what even is there to complain about?
>>738646347lol
>>738673789Minerva was the best part about that endingThey don't set off the nuke and she still hates the MC's guts
>>738675669that's only one thing though. In literally everything else VC3 is better than VC2
>>738669451Only at the end. During VC1 and MGS4 era (2007-2008) it was selling like shit because "get a second job"/$599 US DOLLARS (not adjusted for inflation in 202X).
>>738672589No. 4 is fine. The story is a bit shite for what they were trying to do, but it's fine. If you enjoy the series (or just 1 in general) it's more of that.
>>738651096she's a bar singer anon. late twenties (27 is late not mid) is near retirement for any kind of female performer who isn't a mega-star.
>>738641478Is the remaster of the first game at least good though?
>>738679387>only at the endAgain, wrong. It literally wouldn't have outsold the 360 if it magically started to sell only in the final few years, not how it works. It was outselling the 360 globally from the start. It's only anglo nations where the 360 was outselling it.
I feel like there should be an American football mod for VC 1.
I just want hot anime waifus in my strategy games. Is there any other waifu strategy games? Esp upcoming
>>738671385360 won during the prime of the generation.
Imca.
>>738682579>the primeMore like the start. It was all over after the kinect launched and xbox shitted itself and never recovered.
>>738661050This. What were they thinking with that faggot? All the other MCs were great, but I can't even remember that bland loser's name
>start playing this 2 days ago>enjoying>see this thread>everyone just says you can beat every stage by not playing the game and just picking scout...
>>738683515You control the buttons you press.
VC2 gets way more hate than it actually deserves. It's actually better than VC1 in many ways.
>>738684119such as
>>738683150Honestly the main girl pissed me off more than he did. Though saying that 4 didn't have a single character that I didn't just straight up hate. One of the worst cast of characters of any game I've ever played. I swear they were trying to make everyone as unlikable as humanly possible.
>>738641478Sega is the worst-managed extant company in gaming. I loved VC1. Grinding was so much fun. It was a puzzle to figure out the most efficient way to grind certain repeatable missions.
>>738641478Do japanese even know you can play games on computer?
>>738684279I kinda wish they'd make a VC game and actually flesh out the progression more. Like something similar to Fire Emblem with multiple advanced classes and different gear and levels. VC1 as an RPG is incredibly basic.
>>738685538
>>738684343Anon, it's not 2008 anymore.Minecraft, Yuuchuubaas and Veechuubaas slowly taught the Japanese about PC while Sony did everything in its power to murder Playstation in Asia.
>>738685583>>738685538i will now play your game
>>738681916>It was outselling the 360 globally from the start.Incorrect.>It's only anglo nations where the 360 was outselling it.Correct. Which is why it BTFO of the PS3 until they finally got the slim (reliability and price) down. I know because I bought a MGS4 PS3 in 2008, Anon. I was there. The PS3 was a distant Third until Mattrick torpedoed the brand.
I still don't understand how clashing works. Is coin power the only thing that matters?
>>738686672my fellow limbus and vc double thread reader
>>738686767Aww shit
>>738641583god bless raita
>>738683515They are all retarded. Typical "common knowledge" from people who never actually played the game.If you actually try that shit, you are going to get slapped into the ground.
4 is so lame compared to the first 3 didnt even have a proper artbook with all cast image with their tanks
>>738685608Apex legends being the reason gaming computers started becoming a thing in japan is extremely cursed
I really liked VC's story until in went full retard with bullshit giant tanks and anime powers.
>>738672589>>738673236>>738673490Fuck no. It's easily the best in the franchise and has the most refined mechanics by far. All of your squadmates get their own stories too, which is a massive improvement and adds a lot of personality to everyone. That said, the main cast is definitely not as memorable as 1sOnly mongoloids claim 4 is bad.
>>738687685Scout rush is quite a bit more difficult to do in 4. It absolutely is true in 1 thanks in part to how stupid OP Alicia is.
>>738641478why did the VC franchise jump straight from 1 to 4? have they ever heard of 2 and 3?
>>738687891Not interested, nigga. People always claim it's easy as fuck, but in truth it's borderline speedrun shit with you needing to do X in turn Y so you can then go to this specific spot and user order Z to kill whatever so NEXT turn you can etc, etc.Only queers and trannies play like that.
>>738687843you think only 4 did that?
I like VCI think it's fine if they never get another story or game. It feels like a "complete" gameIt's not like Fire Emblem in the regard that it needs 50 retarded sequels
>>7386881171 didn't, and no one cares about the other two. What's your point?>b-b-but Largo and his veggies a-and..Fuck off. Only a fraction of the squaddies in 1 got stories. In 4, literally everyone gets to participate in one.
>>738687843>and adds a lot of personality to everyone.This is a negative because everyone's personality is fucking awful. Rather shallow characters than outright bad characters.
>>738688303>waaah everyone badMiss me with that simpleton shit. Bet you couldn't even explain why it's bad if I bothered to ask.
>>738641478The og game was not a bad game, but also not such a good game, the franchise sucks because you can't play as the empire, only on the Oswald DLC
>>738687779Why would you want a realistic VC? The giant stupid tanks and magical girls are the best parts.
>>738649302>RealisticRealistically, lancers' direct inspiration were a waste of resources and performed about as crappily as they do in-game. Literally only exist to look cool in promotional shots.
>>738688713Lancers are great, you're just using them wrong.
>>738688198
>>738641478I remember buying the steam port and immediately hating it and I have like 15 minutes played on it to this day
Reminder that Selvaria was designed by a porn artist and thus is LITERALLY made for sex.
>>738689393All the vehicles were too. Raita is a massive tankfag.
>>738641859>2 made sense to me>gay ass high school tranime festivals in the middle of civil war
>>738641583They should just reboot the series already so they can finally let her survive like they clearly always wanted her to.
>>738689393>porn artistthat's redundant anon, might as well call him an "art artist".
>drove tanks for two world warsbest hag
>>738659227>3 is the best story in the series but only the main story is fan translated.old news grandpa, the fan translation was completeted couple of months agoi finished replaying it recently and i did all the DLC
>>738645709>I don't think 4 had any references to 3, besides maybe very minor stuffThen they've done their job as the Nameless squad is supposed to be secret and unrecorded.
>>738680665but she is a popular star
>>738689907Frankly I hope it just gets retconned entirely. A Penal batallion just doesn't make sense for a country that doesn't have a standing army. You just can't make it make sense for the uwu we just defending our countwy faction to do that.
>>738690396The first and second games imply Galia isn't much better than the Empire in morals, it simply doesn't have the weight to throw around beyond its borders. The real goodie-two-shoes faction are the Federation.
>>738689945no, she's "local famous". girls like that hit the wall and vanish. when i say mega-star i mean like "the invading army soldiers are fans of hers" level of stardom that doesn't really exist in a pre-television society.
>>738690684>The real goodie-two-shoes faction are the Federation.The guys who tried to kidnap a young princess?
>>738690684>>The real goodie-two-shoes faction are the Federation.>Put a girl as a living power generator in your prototype ship>Intentionally send this unit to the capital to do a warcrime and force a surrender out of your enemy while also potentially killing thousands of innocent peopleYeah real goodie-two-shoes there. We don't see much of Vinland either but considering their hand in the creation of the Snow Cruisers, I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones that suggested using them like suicide bombs.
>>738641478>Valkyria RevolutionI got it for 5 bucks. Is it decent enough despite not being strategy?
>>738690684>Federation>good guysthose giant ships are powered by valkyrian lolis and are also made to forcefully explode to their objective. Also>Claude did the only sensible thing of not detonating the nuke>gets fucking court martial’d and he fell to depression, quitted the army and just went low afterwards
>>738641478>Valkyria Chronicles>Valkyrie Drive>Valkyrie Profile>Valkyria RevolutionWhy is it that after thirty years they still haven't made a better "Valk" game than Assault Suit Valken?
>>738688198>Only a fraction of the squaddies in 1 got storiesThat's a positive.
>>738690928Ambassador-what's-his-name was a double agent; his ultimate goal was Gallia falling in with the Empire, which is obviously not conductive to the Federation's overall aims. Though yeah the loli-powered tech is pretty sketchy.
>>738691821What I find the most fucked up is that the lolis are civilian contractors on paper. They TRY to save face by saying they can only enter willingly but it's easy to convince a child to do that. "You want to help the war effort don't you?"Then giving a sly side eye to the other scientists, knowing that her fate is to be used as a bomb.
>no vietnam war with cute girls and loli agent orange
RAITA
Embracing my wifeFuck off Zeri
>>738691113It is until the later battles where bullshit like this happens and the level expected jumps by 10 each mission.
>>738691367I also want Valkyria with mechs and I'm disappointed it never happened.
One reason it does so poorly is because they keep killing off the Valkyria themselves. It wasn't until 4 one got a happy ending.
I want to drag them into a rape dungeon
>>738693238Alicia got a happy ending. She counts.
>>738693486getting mgs4 hoe vibes from this>t. guy who has only played mgs4
>>738693238My wife also got a happy ending (with me)
>>738641478>PC players got burnt hard and gave up on the series after saving itI actually really liked VC4 and it tied with VC1 for me. They offered different narrative experiences, but were both really good.VC1 is a romance story, primarily, whereas VC4 is a thriller story where bad goes to worse, to better, then plummets. It's a rare game where I became invested in the struggles of the characters involved - they reasoned intelligently, did the best with what they had and STILL got fucked by circumstances beyond their control repeatedly. I loved every second of it, despite the pain it caused me. Raz is a big damn hero.
>>738694135
>>738688713AT rifles were reasonably effective early on.the 'lancers' aren't those silly kamikaze javelin sticks the Russians and Japanese used, they're closer mechanically to bazookas. they just look like a lancer rod because "muh knightly tradition". VC4, due to using an Anglo-American squad rather than a Franco-Dutch one like the first game, made a note to make them look more like recoilless rifles because "the Vinlanders(Americans) don't have a knightly tradition so make their weapons less stylistically mediaeval".
are the girls in 4 as cute as the ones in 1?
>>738646240Score should've been a combination of turn numbers, enemies killed vs units lost, and bases taken (including the optional ones).
>>738646446>>738646683I want a Pacific theatre game. island-hopping with a squad of Vinlander troops. replace tanks with boats and trucks.
>>738646240Definitely could be fixed by having more varied objectives rather than Capture the flag. Stuff that you can't just walk up and boop to win.
>>738651096there are several characters (including women) who are in their 30s-40s. there's also a guy who's in his 60s. >>738656334the game has one Shocktrooper who's 12. literal child soldiers, no comment is ever made on it
>>738646446>>738646683I want an Empire game>Set in the 1950s/1960s>Federation has aggressively expanded across the Imperial borders and the concessions they've made have weakened the Empire militaristically and economically>Families have the real power because the Emperor has none due to post-war treaties that weaken the power of him to prevent another war>The Emperor himself is young, ineffectual and expected to be a puppet by the families to sign off on things because the bureaucracy still demands it>Internal and external conflicts create major problem and a near civil war>Cold war with the Federation quickly turns hot>Third faction playing both sides trying to jumpstart a new apocalyptic reset>Heavily Valkyr based and consider them to be Guardian Angels or the stewards of History correcting human behavior>Use a lot of ancient techRevelations in Valkyria Chronicles 4 has kind of shown that the Federation and Vinland aren't exactly good guys either with their willingness to use the Valkyria like batteries and WMDs. They could easily be pushed into pressing against the Empire near to the point of destruction out of a misplaced sense of 'justice' for their warcrimes in the Second Europan War. Add in themes like Sins of the father and there's plenty of stuff you could explore here.
>>738688412Because everyone is an obnoxious asshole or a whiny pussy or fairly often both at once.
>>738670174the trick to it is to position your tank between her and your other units. her AI exclusively wants to position her between Max's tank and your nearest unit, so if you make that your tank she'll just stand there staring at your tank doing nothing. she also won't move unless Max or your nearest unit to Max moves.
>>738683040which happened several years after VC1 launched. the Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 in EVERY market save for Japan from 2006 until 2009. >>738671385is a zoomer retard who wasn't there.
>>738673705they've got silly outward designs but at their core it's just bolt action rifles, MP40/M3/PPSh/StG44 clones, and bazookas.
>>738641478in an alternate world this would be Sega's Fire Emblem yes I know about the Shining series. Should've at least waited a few decades before moving to school setting I guess.
>>738688069that's how war strategy works, anon. you think strategists only ever react to what's immediately happening?
>>738696589>New Sega Title with VC's gameplay but Shining Force's Horse PussyI'd buy it.
>>738687716what do you call this aesthetic?
>>738655973same VA
>you are sniper >enemy commander just got out of tank>you have the clearest shot you ever had in your life>one bullet to turn the war in your favor>you notice a little blue haired jewish girl get out of the tank too>the blood of your ancestors compels you to shoot this nobody wasting your only opportunity to take the commanderrosie grieved harder than welkin did and she didnt even know the girl
>>738697121>aiming for welkin>bad RNG roll, shot misses wide and nails the Darcsen off to the sidethanks for the spoiler, by the way
>>738698032It was his sled from when he was a kid by the way.
>>738644451The game desperately needed a mechanic where you needed to take and then HOLD a position for a turn or two for it to count as fully captured, would have completely fixed this issue.
>>738689517>on a portable device meant for high schoolers to play>is a sequel with some of the charm of the first gameI didn't say it was good
Why is 1 on steam but not 2 and 3?
>>738700850No one cares about 2 and 3.
>>7387008501 got a remastered rerelease that was on all platforms, 2 and 3 have never been rereleased anywhere (and 3 never got a translation either)
>>7387008502 and 3 are psp games that haven't gotten ported off the handheld
>>738701297Did 2 get an official translation? When was this?
>>738702729it did but it was one of those dub only lolcowizations. I think at least 30% of the hate for the game was just people annoyed at avan's english voice.
I love these games because I just love anything that romanticizes Western history and I am all for being patriotic for a fictional early 20th century European principality, but the gameplay just feels more like a mere formality the more you play it. Where is the actual strategy? If you're not just abusing three units to destroy everything on the map while the rest of your platoon sits in spawn, you're losing.
>>738697121>your squad could literally get run over by a tank and get revived in the next round>>be little blue haired jewish girl>gets shot once>dies
>>738689754where can i learn more about this?
>>738704382https://github.com/akorov/VC3ReTranslation
>>738704439my cute child soldier wife
>>738705262ignore the quote, I clicked anon's post to bring up the post box quicker and forgot to delete the digits
>>738641478VC2 was fun and I'm tired of people saying its dogshit. It fucking plays the exact same way as VC3 bro.
>>738641478It definitely didn't help that trannylators completely butchered 4's translation too. Total trannylator death.
>>738696495hammers and lances?
>>738705262>>738693486i want these ones
>>738706367Lances are just funky bazookas. I dunno about hammers, haven't played the PSP games
>>738682203>Mogudan in charge of some blue haired waifuOfc.
>4 games about how Darcsens are oppressed and mistreated>no Darcsen protagonist
>>738707451Ain't Mogudan the Reifag that's been consistently drawing Rei porn for literal decades?
>>738707542Congrats anon you got the joke, and yes he also did worked as scrapped princess artist plus bunch of stuff that people forgot.
>>738698665I think armoured tech would be effective in thisas you can lock down capture points along with an mg unit as long as you dont get hit with anti infantry rounds or by another armoured tech or a fencer
>>738707508Isara is effectively the tritagonist of the first game. if you want to be pedantic she technically gets more playtime than Welkin in gameplay because she's the one actually driving the tank, whilst Welkin is just giving battle orders.
>>738705347It was the most challenging of the games with some interestingly arranged missions. I liked how the smaller areas forced you to consider when and where to deploy your guys, and what the enemy is likely going to do, to avoid being immediately massacred. It felt more like war and some victories were really hard-earned. VC3 was considerably easier and the bigger games never asked for much brain use
I need both games to be 6 dollars on the ps store again so i can try them.
>>738707684you know, i really mis the aura of people just throwing porn into games
>>738646347What the fuck, Selvaria is supposed to evade attacks without smokescreen
>>738707508best wife is a darcsen
>>738709560alicia has undodgeable shot but it doesn't look like it proced in that clip, but idk. I know it works, I've done it myself, but things are just a mystery sometimes
>>738690684The federation are the people who took in all the Empires Mengele's and funded a regime change operation in Gallia so they could provide the insurgents with experimental weapons for field testing. They're as much a bastard as the other factions.
>VC3>villains want to create anime Israel>goal is to stop themUnfathomably based
>hide behind sandbags, get pelted by enemy gunfire>peek out of cover and blow someone's brains out>"YATTA!" ※\(^o^)/※
>>738696257It doesn't matter, VC1 sold a million units on the PS3, which is more than on PC. You're the zoomshit who wasn't there, faggot. If it was just Japan it the PS3 wouldn't have outsold the 360. The PS3 was outselling the 360 in Europe and Japan. Only in the anglo nations was the 360 outselling the PS3. The prime of the generation also for sure wasn't
>>738712013Problem, retard?
>>738685804Again, wrong. The PS3 launched at a disastrous price point, had a harder architecture, weaker multiplatform versions early on, and still remained competitive worldwide. The 360 had a one-year head start, a much lower launch price, stronger early online infrastructure, better early Western third-party support, people had to buy multiple due to reliability issues and massive software momentum in the US/UK. And yet the PS3 still outsold it, which doesn't make sense unless it was selling either as well as the 360 or outselling it in other markets. This whole narrative that the PS3 wasn't competitive during the first few years is just completely wrong. Even without the games people still bought it due to brand loyalty. Just not in the US. You can't make up for 3 years of bad sales enough to actually outsell the 360 otherwise, because the sales were in reality still very competitive. Just not enough for sony. It's a meme that the PS3 was dead, because it was only in anglo places where the 360 dominated. It was only the anglo countries where "everybody around me has a 360" was an actual thing. The PS3 getting MGSIV (and Demon's Souls for those in the know) in 2008, which is still early in the gen, helped greatly. The slim and kinect coming out were the nail in the coffin for the 360.
The series would have had multiple endings with each girls. For me, it would have been marrying the princess from Valk 1 as the war hero. Alicia as the cuckqueen concubine
I really and truly believed a psp collection was coming to steam after they released vc1 to steam with a large degree of success. It still baffles me that they took that steam money and immediately went crawling back to sony players the fans that killed the franchise in the first place and developed an exclusive game for them, which they of course didn't buy.
>>738689754eh damn thats nice I'll replay it today to see the translated dlcs
>>738713829Ah yes Sony fanboys are to blame, not SEGA for releasing a shit game.
>>738641478this is sega we're talking about here, the creators of the infamous sonic franchise
>achievement unlocked: first of many>use R&D for the first time >67.2% of players have this achievement
That's literally a game for children, I don't understand why abyone would play it over xcom
>>738718975Because people were sold on an anime xcom but it's another jrpg slop game with arbitrary damage and action economy. There's no reason to play this trash
>>738718975The majority of people but but never play let alone finish games
>>738718975>>738719101I always love retards saying shit like this as a gotcha to say that the game is bad but they're too stupid to realize literally every game ever is like this.
>>738719347>literally every game ever is like this.No xir, only your shitty jrpgs are like this
>>738719370lmao dumb tranny
>>738719394>N-no you're the tranny! Not me for playing gayrpgees!Ruh roh
>>738719520lmao
>>738687716I like how the girls in VC2 wears shorter miniskirts in their field uniforms compared to their school uniforms (Magari especially)
>>738688198VC3 had some interesting side stories for the characters but you have to go out of your way to explore them, most of them don't come into the main story unless like the important story beats. So it gets pretty jarring when you're at a climax of some act, and suddenly all these side characters (like grannies, bartender, some random guy from not-Japan) suddenly joined in for a "hurrah" moment. Or when the first tanker in VC3 got replaced with the second tanker (Clarissa) and it came off as "what the heck, you're the shop keeper from the regular army why the hell did you get sentenced into the penal squad?".Tho I enjoyed VC3 bit more since the Nameless squad has more autonomy in the latter chapters (after the regular army started targeting them as well). Idk it's more interesting to see a detachment or battlement that's isolated from the main army and just doing their own things. Also Imca and Riela are just cute
>>738648493>puffy_vulva.jpg
being assigned as a morale booster for all female soldiers with my sexual skills
How do I into VC3 on PC? I don’t know which version of the game and English patch to download.
>>7386445594 is fine but it's story is the definition of retarded at times. Especially during this one scene where it wants you to feel bad for a fellow squad after 90% of the get wiped out because of their officer's incompetence even though they actively sabotaged your squad earlier on
>tfw the Civil War in VC2 was completely justifiable because House Randgriz literally lied about being Valkyrur descendants for centuries >yfw realistically, there would have been Darcsen rebels that also wanted to take over Gallia because of this>tfw these facts get ignored because Darcsens are fantasy anime Europe's Jews so they can do no wrongBonus:>tfw in VC4 it gets revealed that the Darcsens were actually the good guys and the Valkyrur were bigoted super nazis
>>738721352Get PPSSPP emulator. Got to retro game talk, create an account (it's free, no bs), search for valkyria chronicles 3 and see that it is marked as english patched. That's it.Download the iso and run it with PPSSPP
>>738721912Thank you for the spoonfeed, fren.
>VC1 has Skies of Arcadia characters>surely that means Sega hasn't forgotten their game>almost 20 years later and nothing
>>738724503women saluting is oddly arousing
>>738724798I mean they've also forgotten VC itself. Yakuza and Atlus games are the only games that exist to Sega.
>>738719701Makes sense, girls at my local private school typically roll their skirts all the way up to boy-shorts level because it's much more comfortable + range of movement.
>valkyria chronicles Mention the fucked up Troon localization
What purpose do the cat ears serve?
>>738727478Ear flaps. Like those on an ushanka.
Mmmm Banana
>>738727478they fold down to cover your ears in cold weather, but mostly because it makes my penis the big penis
>>738646347>nothing personnel kid>gg no re
>>738661050I remember when someone posted this and people said "Yeah, Claude was a bit of a mess"
>>738691821>Gallia falling in with the empire>The ambassador is a double agemt working for the EmpireYou fucking liar. Townshend is part of the Federation's high council. They approved kidnapping thd princess to annex Gallia to the Federation. He got an elite Fed company for that.
>scout rush>I win!!!
>>738646347I just shot her with a sniper and was extremely surprised when the mission just ended like that
>>738730043it's hard to improve on perfection
>>738656487Hogs of war did it long before, pretty neat old game
>>738656487Worms.
>>738641478I liked their tank designs, especially Welkin's.
>>738730043I know VC doesn’t have the best writing but the one in VC4 was indeed worse.
>>738727478They look cute. Also nice ass.Same reason why some males have nice collarbones. And nice ass.
>>738711665>they literally featured lehi and Yirzhak Shamir stealing a nuke to create an ethnostate for the darcsensKino as fuck
>>738670775is goodperfection if it also skips claude's bullshit and raz cus he just doesnt shut the fuck up
>>738641478Vc1 kinda sucked. Played it, scout rushing was the optimal strategy because actually fighting units was usually suicide. Enemies always grouped together and had way more HP and attack than you so unless you get the drop on one, you're always at a disadvantage with no real strategies to take them out. Ignoring them is piss easy though.Never bothered with the rest because being unique doesn't mean a whole lot if the gameplay is bad.
>>738641478I think these games need more side stories about the different soldiers. So many of the characters go undeveloped. At least in Fire emblem the characters get their intro chapter to get some characterization.
>>738736672just aim for the head. outside of extenuating circumstances you can kill at least one guy a per movement this way. you can reselect the same character as well during the same turn as long as you have enough command points, so if you think you overextended you can just pull her back to your lines.
>>738736672>scout rushing was the optimal strategy because actually fighting units was usually suicide.What? Annihilating the enemy is easy. It just takes more turns than scout rushing, and your mission rank is tied purely to how many turns you take.
>>738736672RETARD. One of my biggest complaints about this series is how all the equivalent enemies units are shit compared to yours. Their stats are shit, they never aim for headshots on purpose and the biggest most obvious thing, they have no potentials.
>>738737135Fuck no. 2 and 3 had sub-plots with dedicated missions for almost every side character and they were nothing but an annoying chore to run through. 98% of the support cast in each game is just an annoying freak show. I'm the commander, I don't want to know whose these cunts are, I just send them to die
>>738641478I got it but I bounced off of it pretty quickly.Despite some improvements with new soldier types (I can only remember 1 off the top of my head, maybe there were more?), I felt it didn't do enough to improve upon the formula.The rank system is just shit, honestly.I think in general people want to spread out their little soldiers and move up as a team, but the games really incentivise you to just tard in Rambo mode with a scout or two.That aside, the characters also felt worse. The lack of a Largo-type character (a grizzled veteran instead of a team of teenagers) was sorely missed.The main cast were dull cardboard cutouts with lackluster designs.Thanks for reading my blog.
>>738670684This sounds awesome
>>738641478>Accidentally make a good game>Double down on all the cringe anime weebshit nobody liked from the first instead of making a good fucking game>Series dies
>>738675675>scout rushing was less dominantThat's LITERALLY it. Scout rush retards got filtered hard because they don't know what to do besides their cheese strat that no longer works, so they call the game sour grapes.
>>738739565The game expects you to use the units as they're made to be used. Scouts SCOUT out the enemy positions and the best way forward, shocktroopers then storm those positions and capture objectives. Tanks break heavy defenses, lancers eliminate enemy tanks, engineers support. I played like the devs intended, had fun, and A-ranked every mission in every game in the series. I never even used orders because most of the time they're just useless waste of turns. Being "forced" to abuse scout rushing is some sad cope by people who suck at video games.
fuark I missed out on a VC thread?
>>738739189>they have no potentialsEnemy potential activated: Sweetheart. He has a cute wife waiting for him to come home. Killing this unit will make you feel bad.
>>738732367This is supposed to be a tank made in their version of WW1, isn’t it? Looks like a late or post WW2 tank.
>>738739565the way you are "supposed" to play the game is by planning on how you get to the objective as fast as possible using the tools you are given. that means identifying which units need to die and which ones can be ignored, using snipers to clear a path, using the tank to run over sandbags, using lancers to blow up tanks that you can't kill with your tank, and only running your scout in to capture the flag when the path has been cleared. doing everything with only your scout was only really possible with order cheese which was only in the first game. people complain about scout rushing but they refuse to play the sequels where it was fixed.
>>738743776In 4, If all you care about is A ranks you can do equivalent things in even more braindead fashion thanks to the more lenient A rank turn counts + the APC and Direct Command, such as Shocktrooper rushing.The thing that really killed this sort of approach was in 2 & 3 thanks to tighter maps layouts and the shifting between sections.
>>738743398It is a cold war tank made in world war 1. It has autoloader, underwater mobility, sloped armor and can run at 38mph with 800 horsepower. All of that at 32 tons of weight.Ridiculous.
>>738693486what if YOU are the one being dragged into THEIR rape dungeon?
>>738641583Did anyone get the new Swimsuit figure (left)?
>>738744209Best girl and I won't take no for an answer.
FUCK DARCSENS
>>738696968Also Welkin and Kakashi
>what constant baby making sex does to a mfer
>>738746408I didn't even clock it was him until hours in. his voice definitely sounded familiar but I couldn't put a finger on it until he yells out in pain in one cutscene, and it sounded exactly like the voice clip used for Kakashi taking a hit in every Naruto video game. now I can't not hear him whenever Welkin talks
>>738746408oh, and Sakura's VA does the princess. >>738746340isn't that Marina? she's not a darcsen
>>738713071>Again, wrong.Oh no, Sonygga is delusional.PS3 was shitstomped and distant third until Mattrick torpedo'd the brand chasing Nintendo's waggle console and TVTVTVTVTV.COPE **AND** SEETHE **AND** MALD about it, dude.
>>738721824>>tfw in VC4 it gets revealed that the Darcsens were actually the good guys and the Valkyrur were bigoted super nazisThat was VC1 dumbass
>>738689754Damn, where was this in December when I went through 3 to get to 4?Is the Lore blurbs translated as well? Because 3 was only like 20% translated. Everything else was Nip. They blamed it on UMD limits, but that can't be right since they finally did DLC.
>>738746894does it count as a reveal when the story makes no attempt at all to show antidarcsenist ideology in a sympathetic light? all the antidarcsenic protagonists are shown to just be ignorant, and that their beliefs are nothing more than childish superstition right from the outset. like their beliefs are a simplistic objective character fault rather than a reasonable and realistic reaction to life events.
>>738747005>Is the Lore blurbs translated as well?you mean the news papers shit or the character profile infos? everything is translatedjust load your old save with the new fan translation and do the DLC and post-game content
My wife Aliasse
>>738657174Die secondary
>>738641478This would have been perfect if they copy pasted Operation Darkness but kept the gameplay.
>>738713071360 mogged ps3
>>7386414782 sucked and revolution was impressively bad. I don't care how hard Raita makes you coom, that tit monster stuck out like a sore thumb.They made 1 entire good game and then floundered miserably chasing an even younger audience than the one that they accidentally appealed to.
>>738646240Imperial Onslaught gameplay mod
>>738641478The problem was that it was basically a sword art online rip off
>>738750172it wasn't a younger audience, it was a Japanese audience. during the development for 4 they mentioned the clean divide in expectations between the western and Japanese canvases; the Japs wanted the school comedy stuff and more magic, whereas westerners wanted a more gritty and realistic military focus. the PSP games were a deliberate ploy to appeal to the Jap audience whilst 4 was supposed to bring the series back towards the serious military drama that westerners wanted. they didn't do a good job of it, obviously, and proceeded to blame the fans for not buying the game.
>>738641583REMINDER that she wishes to be the prince's toilet and licks his urine off the urinal.
>>738750172>and revolutionThe concept is fine. The issue is the gameplay is mediocre for a hack and slash, gunplay is worthless (since you need to hack and slash) and the story is complete garbage for a Revolution that ends with the main character and their collaborators being deemed traitors for breaking independence (plus the world map makes no goddamn sense with the rest of the series).Should've been renamed something that wasn't part of the series. Probably wouldn't have gotten as massive backlash (but probably flopped worse)
>>738751503I love how every day this image gets proven more and more correct.
>>738642204It had a card game, similar enough to gacha shit, it's also dead.
>>738751503>grityeah that sounds cool>more magicsure whatever>school comedy shitfucking nips
>>738752247>VDWhat did they mean by this?
>>738641973BASEDBASED BASED
>>738641973>still not backwards compatible
>>738751503Too late, Nikke and GFL2 cornered the waifu with guns market and everyone else has to fight for scraps.
I want to play a decent anime fps gamu but there's none. wtf are asian gamedevs doing?
>>738756841>gachatrashabout the only similarity they have is they have girls holding guns in the artwork. VC are full-on 3D strategy games.
>>738700850>1 bombed at release, boomers mad>slowly sold well post-launch and lots of people rented it and loved it, making it a cult classic>meanwhile sequel is made for psp, bombs in japan but does well overseas>genius retards at sega decide to make the next sequel japan only, bombs>series is dead now, they give the IP to the shittiest developers alive and they make the most cursed spin-off of any game ever>series is actually fucking dead now, people just wanted VC2 on PS3 again and would have bought it>one of the sega devs begs for another chance, says they'll port it to PC>this is around the time of Dark Souls getting that insanely successful petition proving that PC gamers want Japanese games ported to PC>sega says ok, port does really well>dev says they should port it to PS4 next and that they should make a sequel>sega says ok>port probably bombs, sequel is cringe(but sells ok??)>series dead againalso the sequels never hit the same kind of wholesome soul, the first game was truly a bit of a masterpiece imo
>>738756841Those games are nothing like VC.DESU if Sega ever makes a new game I want it to be PC exclusive and with more tactics.
>>738756841Nikke is a 3d game now? Did they change the gameplay
>>738749568It didnt Ps3 had more games especially VNs and other obscure stuff never localized The xbox controller was better ill give u that
>>738757019> wtf are asian gamedevs doing?Pumping out dogshit titty gacha
>>738742638That's what I said. I just played them recently too. Everyone pretty much already said all the reasons why 4 just didn't hit the same for me though. I really loved 1 and wanted to love it too so it makes me feel bad.>>738724798Skies is good then? I had never really heard of it so when it said that Aika was from a far off land I thought it meant anime America. I totally fell in love with her though so I feel obliged to try it.
>>738746169No, but I own the one on the right
>>738760778skies of arcadia is great. you'll want to play the gamecube version which lowers the obnoxiously oppressively random encounter rate. the gamecube version also makes an item called the white map much easier to get which further lowers the encounter rate.that was the one major flaw the game had, this beautiful sky world becomes a nightmare to explore because of the random battles.
VC5 when?
>>738761538(lol
>>738641478>Retards honestly believe it's because games released on the PSP and not the fact that the I.P itself is a Sega JRPG first released in the brown era Be grateful it even got five games and a remaster
>>738641478>subtitles don't sync up at all with japanese voices Is there a fix for this?
>>738705794>It definitely didn't help that trannylators completely butchered 4's translation too.How bad is it?
>>738761982those names are silly>ZwolleItaly stayed out of the fight in that universe?
>>738757292>>738758171>>738758791You guys overestimate how many of you are out there. Between shooters, non waifus like xcom, and gacha, the demographic for anime waifu gunfags that isn’t already throwing money at the above 3 is small, small enough that nobody st Sega even dares to milk VC via new gacha let alone make a real game. This has nothing to do with taste.
am I missing something or are shocktroopers and snipers basically useless?
>>738641478Hot take but VC4 is the best game in the series. >Great gameplay>mostly great Squad>great script>great missions>Literally Caulder from advance wars bbeg who was lame but the supporting antagonists are all Sylveria tier.They even toned down the ANIME aspects of 1 for the western audience.Its a true shame its mostly forgotten.
>>738765341taste and popularity are not synonyms.>>738765563if you consciously avoid scout rushing, they're vital for actually securing areas and making paths for your softer units. I like to have a fireteam of 2-3 shock troops put angles on choke points to prevent the enemy from sending their guys down them, and then manoeuvre my snipers around to deal with the enemy heavies.
>>738641778Initial PC release version was the best way to play it, since 60fps affected enemy interception fire. You wouldn't last long trying to run it.I beat it that way, and it was a terrible shame when the "bug" got fixed.
>Wildwood Warfare at Klodenjust started playing, is this mission supposed to be extremely difficult
>>7387657364 is just 1 again, almost every plot point and character.
>>738765936is that the one where you have to get Welkin and Alicia across a river to the tank whilst the rest of the crew try and protect the tank?
>>738766330its the one where you have to take a base but once you get there like a boss tank spawns (Lupus), I had to just purposely kill my own units so I could grab every lancer i had from the barracks
>>738765736yeah
>>738646347so this is that Japanese gameplay I've heard so much about.
>>738766629Nigga it's a strategy game.
>>738766432oh that one. just don't move the Edelweiss past the checkpoint where the first tank spawns (where the base you can take is). the Lupus will never leave the barracks up the road, it'll just move back and forth 10 yards, wasting CP, and never getting in range of you. You can use your lancers and scouts to circle around to the cliff overlooking the barracks (the cliff with the AT gun) and take potshots at the Lupus until the mission ends. as long as you're on the cliff, his cannon cannot get the angle to actually shoot your guys up there. I think it's because there's a few mines just outside the barracks on the road leading down the hill, which causes the Lupus' AI to refuse to push forward. makes it a turkeyshoot.the game really tries to convince you to use the Edelweiss as a lance for your attacks but you're usually better off just sending in shocktroops and lancers to clear a path.
>>738693486I need a pair of sadistic, smoking hot petite firecrackers who are psychotically devoted to me.
>>738747416I don't know what to tell you, the darcsens were literally a primary antagonist in VC3 where they try to fund not-israel by stealing a nuke.
do i want this?
>>738756549That's because no one will ever care about this atlus jank
>>738767775It has denuvo. Just get the PS4 version or pirate it
>>738766432here's a quick doodle plan of what I'm talking about. start 2 Lancers alongside the Edelweiss on the main road, and move them up to take out the tank sitting at the checkpoint just up the way. you then hang right to go up the back road (the one with the hedgehogs and some mines blocking it). it leads all the way up to a cliff overlooking the south side of the main enemy camp/barracks. at the same time, start some scouts at the second spawn and work them around the lake, taking care of the AT gun on the north side of it. there's a crossover point with the main road that has a shortcut onto the back road where your lancers should be. leave the Edelweiss pretty much where the enemy tank was, and use your engineer to go up and cap the base that's right there. I'd suggest swap them out for a shocktrooper if you don't have one already, and have the shocktrooper follow the scouts onto the back road to meet up with the lancers. you can also leave your engineer with the Edelweiss if you have a shocktrooper available already. up on the cliff, all you have to do is take out the AT gun and the one guard with the scouts, and then position them (and the shocktroop) aiming down the hill that leads directly into the enemy camp. the enemy will try and send guys up the hill to hit you, but your squad's autofire will rip them apart because it'll be 3v1. make sure at the end of your turn all of your guys are pulled back a bit from the edge of the cliff; use the cliff to break line of sight from the enemies down below so they can't pick you off. especially important with the Lupus who will shell you if he can get sights on.
>>738641583based
>>738757807You can't buy this on steam in Japan btw. So many games are cucked to console there.
>>738768150Are you Japanese?
>>738650575like he said, hag
>>738641478Blah. The Empire did nothing wrong and there were noticeable bugs in the Steam version with falling through a map for the first game.Blah also on its retarded anti-nobility shit and its "poor little minority or indigenous" lecture.
>>738693486reminder this guy is a hentai artist and he pulled some charterers over.
I tried a ton of western and japanese tactical games and nothing out there feels as good to control and play as VC. I'm not sure if the games are good or bad but that alone counts for a lot in my opinion, because it's a video game and it should feel good to play. Surprising how often that's lost on devs, especially western ones
Make sure you're keeping tabs on the VC3 EX retranslation project
>>738641478I’m gonna give this game a try hopefully after I fix my pc.
>>738767775yeah. there's a bundle with vc1 as well if you don't have it already
>>738768763you need a 5090 to full overrender VC4 :(
>>738641973That was a fun game.
>only Eng and JP dubsif any game needed a German dub it was this one. I definitely would've played it in German with eng subs.
>>738765837Yeah, 60 fps was fine, but 144 fps would do crazy shit with the tanks. The bug had to be fixed.
>>738641478Cute, but nah. They just stopped making them and stopped making them fun. Simple as.
kinda wild a vc thread lasted nearly 3 days lads... good work
>>738765820Your reading comprehension is too low.
Leena sex
>>738641478I loved 4 because you got more units to play with, evil ones too as well as Valkyries. Those evil twin stereotype girls Nikola and Chiara are so fucking hot. I can fix them.
