>let's remake the original with the same stage layout and enemy placements>put more cutscenes in instead to bloat the gameWhat a backwards way of thinking. I'm playing an arcade rail shooter, not fucking movie slop
>>738642080Video games that were light on "story" has always faced this problem where the devs don't just want to make something cheap and sell it for cheap, they want to make something that's more comparable in scope and price as their other games.
>domesticated pug snout.jpg
>>738642080>More content and world building to flesh out the world? NO THANK YOU >:)What causes this?
>>738642268>releasing game with the exact same gameplay for $60No thanks
>>738642268>I want lore that I can become an expert on by reading Fandom articles, finding holes (where there probably aren't any) and then asking "are there any lore reasons for why ______ doesn't _____?"
>>738642080>presses Skip CutsceneHehe, nothing personal 4chan user that was never going to boughted anyways
>>738642268I don't need to know more than the intro sequence from star fox 64 desu
>>738642391Then just play the original
>>738642080Doesn't matter, you're not the target audience, tendies will buy it anyways
>>738642327>Unironically paying $60 when retailers are price matching the $50 digital price
>>738642418>enjoys both>was there on day one for 64You're out of your league, cunt. It's kino and you're afraid
Furries ruined star fox. I can’t enjoy these character designs knowing that millions of autistic men are cumming to them.
>>738642450I was there for the OG too.This demake has absolutely no soul compared to the OG
>>738642268>bad guy wants to rule the galaxythat's all the lore that matters in star foxdon't pretend otherwisethe series has always been just above a tech demo in terms of story depth
>>738642268The original did a good job and letting players fill in the blanks with minimal explanation. If anything the new cutscenes run the risk of OVER explaining the setting and ruining the mystique
>>738642502Then you must've grown up an only child. Nothing but hype for me and my literal bro.
>>738642556>i can't enjoy it because i'm an only childWhat dumb logic is that
There is no reason this couldn't be a fully original game>but it's been years since 64 came out and people don't know the seriesDo people need to play Ocarina of Time to enjoy Breath of the Wild? What a stupid argument.
>>738642441>Unironically paying $50 for a game you can just pirate in just short10 years
>>738642080god i hope they dont do this shit to f-zero (they will)
>>738642748F-zero is deadCaptain falcon is now the smash bro guy
Just play Event Horizon instead. Or, hell, replay the original. Seriously, what is this shit.
>>738642742>wait 10 years to pirate Star Fox 64 Remake >A Remake of said Starfox 64 Remake gets released on Switch 3 in VR
>>738642742Or just play the OG
>>738642080>let's remake the originalThey remade 64 a billionth time. If they remade the original, which was influenced by 70s-90s rock bands, shit would have actually had a chance on a console no one bought.
>>738643789>>738642080I still don't get why they went with more realistic designs for the characters
>>738644252In some odd way, maybe they are paying homage to 80s and 90s sci fi and action movies but making them look like something a costume artists would make. They kind of do have that 90s Ninja Turtles movie look. I can kind of dig it but I just don't know if kids will vibe with this at all.
>>738642467I just ignore the furfags. Perhaps you are a closet furfag.
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>>738644252It's obviously a little stunt to gain attention for the game and it's actually working and to try something drastically different for the series because they literally do not know what to do with it.
>>738642080This is some of the worst aspects of AAA games and none of the best aspects of a Nintendo game. They want $50 for better graphics and more cutscenes when you could just play it on NSO or emulate it.
Badababdbab
>>738644252Because everything fun has to get hit with the Disney live action remake stick sooner or later.
>>738642080Big N makes movies now, get with the program.
>>738644637Why wasn't it a movie then?They also had a better design for fox in the galaxy movie
>>738644714They basically set this new game up for failure by showing people a much more appealing and likable version of Fox McCloud in movie quality, and then dumping their AI slop-like versions on us a month later.
https://youtu.be/NNxVhvoZLNI?si=UOpBzur8cIpPSMHWhile I don't think it's worth buying a Switch 2 over, I will admit this footage sold me more on the game. The fog of war as you enter the heart of the city in the Corneria stage looks insane.
>>738644854>ooh~ breddy graphicsYou guys make me sick
>>738644637>Big N makes movies now, Poorly.
>>738644996I'm not saying you should buy it, I'm just saying it looks good.
>>738642268Nintendo is infamously bad at world building. In their case less is definitely more. Keep it vague and let the fans use their imagination.
>yes, i really needed to know every detail about how james and peppy were betrayed by pigmaWho fucking cares... god
>>738645519I think the cutscenes will probably end up making the story worse.
>>738642546>the new cutscenes run the risk of OVER explaining the setting and ruining the mystiquethey already did by showing that James and Peppy were complete retards for ever trusting Pigma instead of having the guy put the tiniest bit of effort into pretending to care for the mission or the team
>>738642080Designing a railshooter stage enemy pattern is lost technology. We don't know how to do it anymore. We can only imitate the layouts our forefathers gave us.
>>738645085The problem with Star Fox isn't the brand itself, it's the fact that Nintendo isn't good with writing fully fleshed out narratives. Hence why ips like Zelda and Metroid often utilize the "less is more" form of storytelling. Where they rigidly sprinkle plot points rather than cohesively string them together in a fluid manner.Sadly you can't do rigid with Star Fox because it needs a fluid narrative. Nearly the entire franchise is a team effort that goes from one war zone to the next war zone. Where constant banter and conversations inform you of the next objective or the explain the psychology of characters.Star Fox 64 was probably a lightning in a bottle moment for Nintendo because they had never went that hard on character driven writing and voice work until decades later with Fire Emblem Three Houses. So every subsequent Star Fox game has been living in the shadow of 64 because it's the most dynamic entry story wise.Nintendo honestly needs to hire Capcom or Kojima to work on the writing and story for any future Star Fox game.
>>738646006>kojimaOh god, no
>>738646061Would you rather have another Star Fox Command instead anon?
>>738642268I just want a space shooter. Do world building in spinoffs and other side projects.
>>738647831Assault was a good directionMake more like this instead
>>738648172>Assault was a good directionPeople keep saying that but dont actually shoe any proof that it was. It was a sales and critical flop which caused the series to take a hiatus from home consoles.
>>738648682Like, story-wiseActual sequel.The gameplay was controversial though.You had some on-foot segments that were frustratingly bad, and flying your arwing didn't feel as satisfying as in 64.
>>738648856So you're saying the GAME part of this video GAME was worse than the previous GAME?fuck your story, video games are like porn it can have all the story it wants but it doesn't make one lick of difference if the bitch aint hot.fuck we need to bring regis fils amis back from the dead>if the game's not fun, why bother?
>>738646006>kojimaOh god, yes
>>738642216>doesn't know about fox domestication experiment
>>738642467Krystal did a lot of damage though
>>738649156>discussion is about the story part of the game>spergs out because "games are like le porn"
>>738642080>I'm playing an arcade rail shooterwhat's worse, you're supposed to be playing an ace combat with furriesbut instead you're playing a game in a genre that died 20 years ago and for a good reasonwhat a waste of a franchise
This is the Fox in Space furfags fault and all the retards in his comments praising him for making Star Fox dark and griddy.Nintendo is just giving you guys what you asked for.
>>738649628That was a parodyNo one actually wanted a star fox game to be like that from nintendo
wait, is this actually just a remake? With the same levels? That you can beat in 30 minutes?
>>738649857If you skip the cutscenes, probably
>>738649504>thinks a game where the characters are anthropomorphic talking animals named after the animals has a good story >thinks this story is worth discussingthink about this story for 5 seconds and you'll figure out how retarded you are.what do they eat on corneria? are most of the citizens named after animals? is there a crocodile guy named snappy? is there a gorilla guy named bananas? Why is Fox's dad named James, yet he named his son after the animal? When Fox, Falco, Peppy and Slippy go to the grocery store, what do they buy? Does Falco buy worms? Does Slippy buy flies? Does Peppy buy pellets? Does Fox buy half of a rotten deer carcass? Are there other kinds of anthropomorphic animals? You're seriously discussing the artistic merit of a tacked on, barely though out story, that only became popular because of the quality of the gameplay? A story in which there is an anthropomorphic pig named "Pigma"? We might as well be discussing the "story" of Paw Patrol or Care Bears. My fan theory, they're actually just wearing fur suits because James Mcloud makes an appearance in F-Zero without his fursuit.
Can't they just hand the franchise to Sakurai and let him give Star Fox a Kid Icarus treatment?
>>738650048>doubles down on reductionism
>>738650048take your meds bro
>>738650158Alright man, enjoy the story. I'm going to go play some rail shooters without a fandom of retards who should probably be watching and discussing my little pony instead of playing video games. I hope they put more sexualized animals in just for you.
>>738650324>I didn't even want this stupid game anywayokay
>>738650421>i'm only pretending to be retardedwe get it, you like to jerk off to cartoon animals
>>738650048That's just sillyStop being retarded
>>738649628AFiS isn't what I would call "gritty". It's grounded sure, but it's not overly dark or something
>>738642080>bloatNah, it'd be bloat if it was an open world where you had to explore the Lylat System for instanced challenges that reward you materials to upgrade your arwing
>>738651478Well, they do put in challenges in the game.So there's that.
Just play the OG
>>738642080>>let's remake the original with the same stage layout and enemy placementsdevil's advocate: if they had changed ANYTHING at all (bosses, missions and objectives, different enemies, different layouts and terrain, etc.) you'd have flipped your shit. don't fucking lie you cunt>cutscenespeople have for fucking ages asked for crew interactions faggot. hell, you have crowds clamoring for a dating sim where you can hook up with them
>>738650048>what do they eat on corneria?Food probably >are most of the citizens named after animals?Obviously >is there a crocodile guy named snappy?Probably >is there a gorilla guy named bananas? Yeah>Why is Fox's dad named James, yet he named his son after the animal?To correct the obvious mistake that was made dumbass>When Fox, Falco, Peppy and Slippy go to the grocery store, what do they buy? Does Falco buy worms? Does Slippy buy flies? Does Peppy buy pellets? Does Fox buy half of a rotten deer carcass?Sure why not?>Are there other kinds of anthropomorphic animals? Duh we've already been over this>You're seriously discussing the artistic merit of a tacked on, barely though out story, that only became popular because of the quality of the gameplay? A story in which there is an anthropomorphic pig named "Pigma"?Pigma balls
>>738642080as if you had already perfectedt those placements lolas if you wont be able to skip the cutscenes loljust die already eric this game is going to be goty
>>738646006This series doesnt need any narrativesI fucking hate fox in space fans with all my soul
>>738642418Why when this looks better and runs better and has new contentAre you fucking stupid
>>738642080>I'm playing an arcade rail shooter, not fucking movie slopI agree with you 100% but it's funny you should put it that way. The original Star Fox 64 is very similar to a movie... I'd just say it's a good thing in SF64's case whereas most games that aspire to be "cinematic" do a poor job of it so it became a pejorative.
>>738654592What's the new content?New pointless cutscenesMultiplayer that you only play for a few rounds until it gets boring?Spare me
>>738642268Unironically put that shit in a guidebook or a webpage or something. I'm serious. I'll read it. I might even buy it for twenty bucks. Like picrel that says James took out an 80-year loan to buy Great Fox (lmao)Games have pacing bro. More is NOT better. You have to squeeze it in somewhere. Would Super Mario World have been a better game if Bowser stopped the action to give you part of his tragic backstory every time you hit him with a Mechakoopa? No, because it would fuck up the pacing, right? Games aren't only defined by what they include they're also defined by what they aren't. SF64 has basically no bloat
>>738654979I forgot the picture because I'm retarded
>>738654979>Would Super Mario World have been a better game if Bowser stopped the action to give you part of his tragic backstory every time you hit him with a Mechakoopa? Nothen you press this button called start and skip the cutscene, faggotron
>>738655073so what you're saying is it would have been better
>>738655073That would mean you skip everything instead of having a middle ground
>Father and son paw prints on James' arwingCUTE
>>738655367Isn't that his foot?
>>738654592>runs betterermmm does it though? sf64 is decompedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXFL4rWuiNg
>>738655437a paw is an animal's foot, yes
>>738655367inspired a really cute fan art
>>738642080Why the FUCK can't I beat Star Wolf at Venom? And then if you choke and die, you have no fucking upgrades next time and just die even quicker. I only played tonight for the first time in literal decades, but I don't feel like I'll get past this.
>>738642080I’m genuinely in love with Peppy Hare
>>738655682https://youtu.be/mdekcS07Apc?si=a5wLCFxUQ0jEeHXSsimply gitgudalso you can fly a certain route after going underground and get blue lasers, a bomb, and 3 gold rings. but also if you gitgud your can easily take out Andross with single laser
>>738655558I mean, it's not his sons
>>738642080should have bought star fox assault and command.
unlike other nintendo franchises, dtar fox is clearly inspired by films like star wars, star trek, independence day, etcno wonder they're making it their tv slop franchise
>>738656123>cuck game that ruined fox and crystalno.
>>738656054I'mma be real anon, I completely forgot that loops were a thing. I'll take a few more swings at it in a few days.
>>738656203Don't forget Gundam. Some of the level references are a lot more obvious now I'm not 8 years old.
No, that guy is right. If an actually new starfox came out, I wouldn't care at all if the game started with another 30 second narration saying "the galaxy is in trouble because bad guy called Badgoon (who is a badger) wanted to exploit the planet of infiniteenergynia for the mineral called galaxydestroyerbutalsoinfiniteenergynium and now Fox, Falco, Slippy and the new recruit Giraffebob Longlegs try to defeat Badgoon by going through 7 to 10 levels located in planets in the Oncepeaceful System. The story was, is and should forever be just a tiny little vehicle for context and that's it. Just enough to justify an ending like James being cool at the end of Hard Venom or saying stuff like "Your father screamed really good after I put on my strap on"
>>738656340Use the loop any time you see a laser being shot at you and do hard turns with L/Z and the break. Yes, you're going to crash into the pillars a lot
>>738655367>keep limbs clear>this is a threat
>>738648856The new star fox with its bigger emphasis on story is going to show just how bad assaults story is. Sequels have been terrible with awful plots in other series and star fox is no exception.
>>738655367>>738655437>heavy breathing>"Now do one with your feet, James"
>>738642721>Do people need to play Ocarina of Time to enjoy Breath of the Wild? What a stupid argument.This will be extremely hilarious if OoT indeed ends up getting a remake shown in July
>>738656123What delusion is this
>>738650121Probably but uprising didnt exactly revive the kid icarus series. Just one game in 2011 and nothing since
>>738642080This is actually one of the smartest things Nintendo has done. Zoomies are obsessed with MUH LORE MUH WORLDBUILDING
>>738642742This. We are the truth winners...anyways I think its about high time I pirate games from 1999 since I went through the 1998 catalog...
>>738642268I don't need to know what made Peppy Hare determine that barrel rolling was the bees knees.
Mark my words.The next 3D Mario will have 4K graphics and plenty of cutscenes.The next 3D Mario will be cinematic AND rich in fun gameplay.The snoy shills and schizos won't have a prayer.
>>738642080it absolutely IS backwards>64 treats the story as context and does not let it interrupt the flow of gameplay and it was perfectly paced>remake sonyfies the story and treat it as content and interrupts the gameplay flow with scenesI usually hate it when people say this but they really did miss the point and broke one of the golden fundamental of what made star fox 64 good
>>738660328what part of people want to see crew interactions don't you get faggotron?
The thing I hate about this game more than methed out katt and the chicken legs is that the English voice acting is not only DOGSHIT but for some fucking reason all the cutscenes are animated to match it instead of the original japanese so if I want non dogshit voice acting then I have to put up with a fucking godzilla movie dubWHY DO GAMES KEEP DOING THIS
People bitching about the art style are fucking morons. Buffoons. Dead ends. Terminally online.
>>738661115and you think the ones you get in 64 weren't enough?
>>738661235You're not going to get your paycheck with posts this low quality.
>>738661235Oh wait, I know what they are. Redditors. They're acting like redditors. The art style is fine.
>>738642467You have men cumming to the characters of almost every game you play. The number might be in the thousands instead. But they're still there.
>>738661328Oh, the base concept of the game as a SF64 remake is fucking stupid. The art style is just not bad from where I'm standing. It's fine. It's better than bellheads.
>>738661115did we not get that in 64?
>>738661565cheesy one-liners isn't the same as a look into their lives when they aren't shooting around and blowing up stuffimagine if the fuga games removed the SoL segments between battles. it would feel like a slog
>>738662070forgot to say, we also got to see the prologue where james's disappearance gets fleshed outthey can also show what andross is cooking in his base on venom as you advance or something
>>738662070>it would feel like a slogYou're comparing a long RPG to a 2 hour rail shooter.
>>738644854Look at how they massacred my boy. #NotMyPepperGame looks worse then the original unironically.
>>738662232>fuga, a game where a tank just rolls into the next battle non-stop until next pit stop, is longconfirmed for not having played it lmao
>>738662193you don't need any more shit than what we got in the 64 intro though.why do you want to know any more details?
>>738662368>missing the only aspect that separates star fox from other STGsgod you're retarded. go play your caveshit or something dumb faggot autist
>>738662070Because fuga is a shit game that you only play to jerk off to the kemoshotasSF64 you play to shoot things
>>738662470And you go watch a movie nigger. Not every game needs 15 minutes of cutscenes after every 5 minutes of gameplay.
Why did General Pepper give Peppy tufts of his fur as a good luck charm?
>>738662626I think its supposed to be like humans sometimes giving hair clippings to give the other person they care for as a memento and thr least creepiest body part for the other person to keep of you.
>>738662626What is this from
>>738662594if it were up to autists like you, games wouldn't have progressed past castlevania on NES because "games are all about gameplay, who the fuck needs characters, a world, lore, etc. just mash A until the enemy runs out of health, then start the second loop stacked full of artificial difficulty to make you throw the controller at the wall"
>>738662774/v/ in charge of not playing the games they call remakes
>>738662818Command? No. Zero? No one played it.64 3DS? Again no, doesn't look like that. "Star Fox"? Not out.
>>738662789>cutscenes are the only way games have advanced over the yearsRetard
>>738662818That's not FROM the game you stupid bitch, it's from a promotional OVA
>>738642813I want to sleep with that Fox
>>738662923Of?
>>738662923Since you didn’t want to answer the other postYes, its a promotional ova that directly ties into the game everyone calls a remake like the drooling retards that they are. No surprise that /v/ wouldn’t know that
Going to play the original n64 version and watch the cutscenes on YouTube.
>>738663081of zero
