Just tried playing Deus ex for the first time and holy shit its genuinely so insufferable and unfun. It doesnt stand the test of time at all. The combat is frustrating chance-based bullshit, and the stealth is incredibly boring and bland. There is no way anybody enjoys this game for any other reason than for pure nostalgia.
>>738649556Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>738649614Is this some shitty quote from the game?
>>738649556It was pretty shit in terms of gameplay when it game out if you don't do stealthStealth isn't that bad compared to what the fuck was out there and no, MGS doesn't count as a stealth game since it was basic as fuck - kill a guard and it vanishes forever but get spotted once and keep killing guards and they have an infinite supply and know where you are at all times
>>738649689you are a massive faggot and should consider suicide
>>738649556has more story than Minecraft just deal with it
>>738649556
>>738649556Just get the laser pointer to the pistol without any upgrades. It gives 100% accuracy.
>>738649764The story did seem really interesting. Its a shame I wont be able to experience the rest of it due to how ass the gameplay is.>>738649726The stealth didnt seem to be any different from any other generic stealth system in video games from what i played. Then again, i rarely ever play any stealth games so what would i know
>>738649962>The stealth didnt seem to be any different from any other generic stealth system in video games from what i played. Then again, i rarely ever play any stealth games so what would i knowDepends on the gameFor what was supposed to be a FPS with actual shooting mechanics, it delved into the stealth quite goodShame that it's broken like it's sequels due to being able to go into vents to reset the AI
>>738649556skill issue
>>738650109Ah yes, the luck-based combat system is totally a skill issue
it's good gestalt fun but you should beat the first level at least
>>738649556>The combat is frustrating chance-based bullshitYou sound like an absolute moron, just hit them on the head, you can literally do the entire game with just the pistol.
>>738650173NTA but it's not entirely luck based - if you invest into pistols you can usually hit torso shots 99% of the time within a second of aiming unless you have a bad gripThat said, the fps mechanics were pretty bad and if you dislike the rpg parts of needing skills and weapon mods then I can see you getting frustrated by it
>>738650226Too bad the game only gives you like three fucking bullets for each gun lol>>738650174ill try again, but entering the base entrance just to see a bunch of unavoidable enemy spam makes me really dread playing more of it
>>738649689You obviously didn't even reach the top of the statue of Liberty.
>>738650285>ill try again, but entering the base entrance just to see a bunch of unavoidable enemy spam makes me really dread playing more of itare you stupid? you set off an alarm and are crying because all the enemies are reacting to the alarm? you know theirs like a million other ways into the statue that don't involve you going in the front door and setting off the alarm
>>738650174Yeah, I think the game's biggest problem is that the first level is really abrasive towards new players. It didn't bother me when I was 13 but zoomers don't have the kind of attention span it expects from you.
>>738649556hahaha you are stupid
The first level is easily the worst in the game. Big, empty, only two real ways to enter the statue. Deus Ex is a game you need to be patient with. You are playing for the story and atmosphere, not the gunplay or the stealth individually.
>>738650173It's not luck based, though.
>>738649556LOL FILTERED BY BAD MECHANICS LOL REAL GAMERS LOVE BAD GAMES LOL LOL LOL LMAO EVEN ROFL LOL
>>738650285>Too bad the game only gives you like three fucking bullets for each gun lolyou can't be serious about this
>>738649556Another pleb filtered.I love how Deus Ex gatekeeps itself and keeps the retards out.
>>738649556Be honest with me, /v/, did you even know you can disarm enemies by crippling their arms?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYlSwWTmLgs
>>738651363Yes, I've done it accidentally before.
>>738651404Never seen it happen in over 100 hours playing vanillaMust be because shotguns are dogshit and I never use them
>>738651363Yeah. It's not worth it because enemies running away will still alert everyone around them. Just knock them out, it's better.I didn't know the guns lose all ammo though. I wonder why that is, it can't be a balancing thing, right?
>game was such a flop that the bulk of the people who actually played it are on /v/
>>738651628and reddit
>>738649689Maybe you should try getting a job.
>>7386516464chan and reddit are the same userbases.
>>738649556Stick with the prod. Use the GEP gun for a silent takedown.
>>738651790really
>>738651356does the fact you only play games that most other people think are dogshit fuel your fragile ego?
>>738649556>There is no way anybody enjoys this game for any other reason than for pure nostalgia.100% correct.
>>738651907the game in question being considered one of the best, if not he best videogames of all time
>>738651907My enjoyment of the game fuels your tears, that's more than enough glownigger kun!
>>738651996So is it a niche game that filters out plebs? or is it a mainstream game everyone loves? make up your mind
>>738649556theres a reason people have only posted the same 2 screencaps for two decades
>>738650173Just go find the laser pointer and add it to your pistol. There, all luck 100% removed.
>>738652251>or is it a mainstream game everyone loves?probably this>make up your mindthere are many anons in 4chan!
My brother in law who is several years younger than me and missed out on all non Nintendo games up until about 2007 when he was old enough to get his own Xbox and started branching out, finally got to play Deus Ex around 2017 when he bought his first gaming PC. He fucking loved it and played through it multiple times choosing different paths and dialogue options, builds etc. He had 0 nostalgia for it and played it at a time when it was already deemed very old and retro. Still saw it for what it is, a masterpiece of world building, conspiracy, incredible soundtrack, interactivity etc. Only a braindead retard with no imagination and no taste could turn their nose up to what is widely considered one of the best games of all time.
>>738651356This. It's funny when zoomers try to act like le epic rebelz for not liking good old games, and I'm just relieved they're staying away from things I like.
UCATCO?
>>738652414>zoomers try to act like le epic rebelz for not liking good old games>meanwhile I'm le epic rebel for liking things nobody likes
>>738651485Shotguns are really good on master level, because skill affects the spread for some godforsaken reason.
>>738652486No, Savage
>>738652540>for liking things nobody likessuch as?
>>738652719The game this thread is about, that took 9 years to sell a million copies?
>>738652784>nobody likes>got named GOTY>sold 1 million in much less than 9 years>has sold more than 5 million copies by todayhmmmmmm something doesn't add up with your claims anonmaybe you need to lie down a bit
OP isnt wrong, its ehy indont bother with Thief because Ohhh the clunkiness. I've gotten spoiled by modern games. But Deus Ex on one hand is worth it for the story/chars and atmosphere alone, enough to deal with the aged gaming. and you dont need to stealth it anyway, just bust caps in them terrorist niggas, embrace your inner Ghermann
You can just explode most enemies with the gep gun in the first level it's not even that difficult geeez
>>738652948Nobody played your flop. It's floppier than your penis when hard cocks aren't visible.
>>738649689Stay out of the ladies' room.
>>738653059guess 5 million means "nobody" in urdu
>>738649556stay out of the ladies' restroom
>>738653093>>738653294Oh yeah? Why?
>>738653110>7 billion people on the planet (more, ackshually)>5 million bought it>that's 1 in 1400 peopleThe odds of having identical twins are almost 6 times that of meeting someone who played Deus Ex.
When you get to hong kong the game becomes a hack and slash, don't worry about it and play for the story.
>>738653324move those goalposts more and they will end up tearing your abdomen lmao>>that's 1 in 1400 peopledefinitely isn't "nobody' though, as you claimed multiple timesso you admitted you are wrong
>>738649556Filtered, it's aged like a fine wine. Stick to your movie games, kid.
>>738653347dragon's tooth is so unfair, man
>>738653435Post a picture of what you think goalposts are. I bet it has to do with soccer.You're being a faggot and arguing semantics. 1 in 1400 people isn't TECHNICALLY nobody, Poindexter, but it's functionally nobody.>>738653503>long drawn out cutscenes that would be even longer if the actors could actually ACT and didn't turbotalk in monotone>anon doesn't like moviegames
>>738653347>>738653530>can level heavy weapons to advanced from the start>get the flamethrower in like the 2nd level>set people on fire and watch them run around like retards>extinguish them by knocking them out from behind as a non lethal takedown>WAIT WHATGame2Hard needs instant gratification
>>738651363I just incapacitate them with the tranq gun
>>738653594>says that NOBODY played it>point out it sold 5 million>w-well that doesn't matter because actually 5 million is nothing>but it's functionally nobody BECAUSE I SAID SOhahaha
>>738653752It's functionally nobody because it's half a percent of the population.>BUT THAT'S SOMEBODYImagine being poor like you.
>>738653315My vision is augmented
>>738653901>n-no ucould afford an education that made me realize that 5 million ain't no nobody
stealth is gay anyways. its always better to go guns blazing and experiment. fuck stealth archery bullshit. play it however you want
>>738649556Deus Ex is one of those games where if you say anything bad about it you're just stupid. Get filtered kid.
>>738649556OP name some games that you like
>>738649556If you had any patience you would be jumping across rooftops, sniping enemies from across the map, turning invisible, hacking security cameras, EMPing mechs, etc. by now instead of posting this shitty thread.
>>738654097>could afford an education>ain't no nobodyTELL ME MORE
>>738653315Your mother?
>>738654364"ain't no nobody" is a perfectly viable sentence in southern american dialectsand even those rednecks wouldn't claim that 5 million is "nobody", especially when it comes to vidya salesbecause they don't speak urdu and all
>>738651601I'm sure it's a hack of some sort where they just spawn a gun in and forgot to give it ammo.>>738654349/v/ is just filled with instant gratification plebs.It's why a solid third of the threads up at any time are shit like gacha. the kind of people /v/ used to bully a decade ago because they are the lowest common denominator gamer, worse than a CoD pleb.Deus Ex systems work perfectly fine if you can read, but the OP is of the generation that asks chatGPT to think for themselves.t. 29 y/o boomer.
what are your opinions on gmdx? i think it makes some pretty retarded changes like getting rid of some passwords in order to force the player to use more multitools and adding completely fucking pointless locked doors like in the cemetery, but i like the changes to augmentations, active items and a hotkey for grenades.
>>738654530I live in the South, and you'll get called a faggot, get beaten, and put on the first bus to a fag-friendly town (probably Philadelphia) for talking like that.
>>738655372I really liked the one I played years ago; and when I recommended it to a friend he had a completely different experience than me.Turns out there was a development split at some point and now there's two developed versions with drastically different views on the game.GMDX 9 I thought was fantastic, but my friend absolutely despised the version he played.
>>738650285Being filtered by the very idea of stealth is impressive
>>738655650stealth games are glorified walking sims
Just another parasite.
>>738655650Most people would rather play good Stealth games.
>>738649556retard
>>738653347>>738650567>Play for the storyStory is the weakest part of this (amazing) game. Gameplay is top tier from the start and only gets better. OP is a faggot and a retard and has never played a game that requires him to think. No yellow paint to tell him what to do.OP quit being a brainlet and use your imagination. You are given a task and multiple ways to accomplish it.
>>738651692Ok, where ?
>>738658308>Story is the weakest part of this (amazing) game.Main story, maybe.But Deus Ex was way ahead of its time with all of the shit you find in emails and what characters are speaking about.
>>738658521Yeah your right I'm being pedantic. I think the plot is weak after le twist with Paul but the setting, dialogue, and characters are still unmatched.
>>738649689And there it is.Why would you ask that if you didn't know it to be a famous saying? It's not even a particularily odd thing to say. Here's your Yous retard.
>>738655407in south pakistan maybe lmao
>>738655761so are most vidya because you walk a lot in them
>>738649689Just another parasite.
>>738658415Majestic 12
>>738649556>The combat is frustrating chance-based bullshitSkill issue.
>>738649689>didnt even play the game
>op gets absolutely annihilated dialectically: the threadYou need a triple digit IQ to be deemed capable enough for Deus Ex discourse.
>>738662376literally, you need to upgrade the correct skills
>>738649556I don't understand when people tell me the games that i liked playing are bad in general if i still spend long hours playing them. Large portions of /v/'s gen Z and presumably gen alpha posterbase continually say nothing i liked stood the test of time. But in 99% of cases they cannot point to any modern example that did it better. Whenever they point to a game they think did it better it's also dumbed down to oblivion.I'm not speaking about Deus Ex exclusively but just older games in general. Although one thing i notice about those who hate the older DX games is that people who liked the Jensen games ignore the fact that those games had all sorts of undesirable cinematic slop traits like playing cutscenes for takedowns instead of allowing you to perform it yourself. Or significantly dumbed down the creativity in gameplay.
>>738651790go back
>>738649556Deus Ex is almost perfect. The only flaw as a game is the same one all Imsim has in that the bosses are trash, JC/the GEP gun is simply too strong.
>>738663803Howard Strong slander? Shame...
>>738649556Zoom zoom zoom - Ozoomzoomzooom
>>738653093
ok can we just post memes now
>>738664069>>738664132Jesus christ, deus ex fans have the worst sense of humor. genuinely reddit-tier memes
>>738664451
>>738663550To what? 4chan? They're literally the same people. Don't act like you're cooler than reddit while posting twitter threads, Nintendo threads, and gooner threads. You're the same people.
>>738664572>They're literally the same peopleliterally notgo back brother you'd have more fun in there
>>738649556Sorry to hear, i think it's fun
>>738664629nice, somehow I didn't have that one
>>738649556>>738649689>didn't even finish the first mission
>>738664726bold of you to assume she'd even installed the game
>>738649556You've got ten seconds to beat it before I add you to the list of NSF casualties.
>>738664726>NOOOOO, you cant judge a game until youve invested 1000 hours into it!! it getz good at the 500 hour mark!
>>738664627>r/4chan posts 4chan shit>/v/ posts reddit shitWhat's the difference? You post on one, think you're clever, then repost it on the other. You might think you're somehow cooler, but reddit and 4chan are the same caliber of tranny faggot losers.I'm not putting myself above that like you are. I know my peers are faggots and retards. You can't accept it, which makes you a bigger faggot and retard.
>>738649556You're brown
>>738664825
>>738664819>>I'm not putting myself above that like you are.lolI only said that your comparison is crack, sensitive anon>What's the difference? the fact that just because some silly anons are also redditors doesn't mean that all of them are, maybe that
>>738649689That's faggotry. Fagottry, built into OP.
>>738664806wow didn't know it took 500 hours to finish liberty island
>>738665042You may not have an account on reddit, but you're literally the same type of person. Accept it. Reddit and 4chan are two sides of the same troon.
>>738665132I can't accept a thing said by a redditor bro, sorry>accept itmaybe prove it first
>>738665112Because i dont know your shitty reddit chungus memes? fuck off
>>738665195>4trannies aren't predditors>you're posting on 4trans, and are a predditorWhich is it?
>>738665360what are you, a goldfish?>>738665042lol
>>738649556To you
It's one of the greatest games of all time, but I do admit that I see it as maybe a rung lower than I used to simply because it was noticed and run into the ground by the anonbot meme faggots.
>>738649556>be OP>put skill points into anything but firearms>use the pistol thinking it will be a no recoil weapon you can spam shots with right out the gate>wtf this game sucks
>>738665945I never asked for this
>>738665945
>>738654097>could afford an educationlet me guess, LOYNO?
>>738666837loyes
>>738665945>>738666602Detroit, as envisioned by HR, was much more implausible than Hengsha.
>>738649556seethe, incel
>>738649689jesust mate. just kys right now that was embarrassing. maybe fortnite is more your game if you got filtered by deus ex
>>738649556>There is no way anybody enjoys this game for any other reason than for pure nostalgia.True, but this place is full of nostalgia fags
>>738666929fooking carlos!
when the power dropsgo inand go inand go in like the US Marshall and his thrEE daughters AND we lose the vaccineget pills against my orders, get moving
>>738649556>There is no way anybody enjoys this game for any other reason than for pure nostalgia.played for the 1st time during covid lockdowns and I loved itthe gameplay mechanics are a bit janky but they're adequate, plus the rpg layer of skills and stats is very well designed and amount of interactivity puts most games to shamebut the star of the show really is the level design and writting/worldbuilding - the former is immaculate and ties every gameplay system together with mission/quest/activity flawlessly ; the latter can be a little kitchy at times, but it is always simultaneously very entertaining and surprisingly layered
>>738649556Just play it for more than 10 minutes, anon. Every game has unique controls you have to get comfortable with.
>>738649556I played it last summer for the first time and really enjoyed it. I'm a weeb so I have to force myself to play western shit but I'm glad I finally forced myself to play it. I don't know why, I also enjoyed the gothic series and some others, I guess cause you can more easily mess up your stats in a lot of these games so they need more planning. This game gives you plenty of skill points though, I only remember being limited in the beginning.
https://voca.ro/1dpADkAPyFtOSoon, I will be pure light! Pure energy! Helios and I!
>>738668741>>738668475Deus Ex has such amazing level design that in a second playthrough I found myself barely using skill points because I could navigate everything easily just by exploring thoroughly and being smart with my resource usage. I mostly put points in explosives to max out my GEP gun, but I was left with a bunch by the end.It's crazy how many keys and passwords and little hidden hatches there are. If you use LAM ladders and grenades/GEP gun rockets to open up doors you really can breeze through most levels.
>>738649556The combat becomes less janky when you invest points into the skills.
>>738669289That's the thing. True level design. Even forgoing the vents/laser tripwires/power boxes for a minute here. You can find almost every password/login to nearly any door or pc. You actually don't need to use the hacking skill or multitools. Meanwhile a lot of other games just assume that you are going to hack everything, because their devs can't wrap their heads around the idea of actually putting codes in. HR being a good example, the base hack is unlocked by default and game depends on it for progress. Forces you to use hacking to get through certain doors; it actually even rewards you for hacking every door, even ones you do have codes for. And a lot of those doors straight up don't have codes that you can uncover anyway.
>>738669289>>738670417Some boring losers have done a 0 items run of Deus Ex before, it's certainly doable just don't expect to have fun
>>738670171>expecting zoomers to understand game mechanicsNo wonder they got rid of skills in Human Revolution
>>738658308Disagreed, the story is amazing too.
Anonymous, thirty years oldno residenceno girlfriendno futureno
Deus Ex, like most good sci-fi, analyzed and satirized (then) modern-day events and and political trends and extrapolated without making it seem like political pandering or caricatureEvery time I play it, it seems prescient to modern events, but that's because the future is a function of the past if one is smart enough to see it, which the writers were.I only played it for the first time in 2012, so there was no nostalgia for me.If a game like Deus Ex could be made by a major studio in modern times, then it'd be a confirmation of a new golden age of gaming. But only indies are capable of scratching the surface of the depth of Deus Ex which is a shame.
I'm like op, but less gay. Playing deus ex for the first time currently. I must admit that I bounced off the game like 7 years ago and never even finished liberty Island. Now I'm back and loving it, currently trying to escape from the research facility with the little green niggers. I think the difference this time is, instead of exploring every single square centimeter of the map for potential loot and content, I just let myself get drawn to whatever seems interesting to me and let the chips fall where they may. If I miss a secret datapad or pair of lock picks so be it. It's a lot more enjoyable to just play rather than try and get everything perfectly on a first playthrough. 35 years old btw.Story is interesting. Prescient, even.The same thing happened to me with Thief when I got to the thieve's guild, but then I got back into it and beat it last year and loved it.
>>738649556>>738649689well done
>>738649556I'm not gonna stand here and listen to you badmouth the greatest game this board has ever known
>>738649556If u want your guns to hit shit then start over, "untrain" all skills and then put all skill points into small guns or whatever its called. Now your pustol will actually hot what youre aiming itAnd btw play the tutorial, it has story parts in it that ure missing otherwise
>>738650173Not luck based. If u havent leveled up in the skill for that weapon type then crouch and wait for 10 seconds and ur reticle will shrinkOr just put all ur skillpoints into guns and it will work like any other fps
>>738650285Sounds like u dont like stealth. Start with a new character ans put all stat points into guns.
>>738649556What a shame.Rotten way to go.
>>738673879https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKF0IYwhrjkthis conversation is particularly propheticI also like how often JC Denton gets owned in these conversations, he's smart but obviously brainwashed
it literally isnt chance based, there is an accuracy meteruntrained it will take a while to aim but you can crouch with a silenced pistol and take out most of the grunts with a single headshotif you get some gas grenades you can throw them at the wall of the base which will make soldiers run out and open the door, allowing you to skip the first island altogether (but you miss out on a fuckton of xp, money and items by doing this)
>>738673879The game basically took all right wing conspiracy theories of the second half of the 1900s and put it in a video game. Its like john birch society: the game
>>738649556>people who know how to play the game enjoy it more than I doNo shit.
>>738675193I know how to play the game, its just that the gameplay systems suck
>>738674779>he's smart but obviously brainwashedGuy's literally an artificial human grown in a tube and implanted with fake memories.
>>738675046It goes way deeper than that, the whole AI think is 100% relevant today.
>>738649556>It doesnt stand the test of time at all.zoom
>>738658308>Story is the weakest part of this (amazing) game.Deus Ex's story is the one thing keeping it relevant today because the gameplay kind of is a jank ass
>>738675747It's jank, but it's not ass. See Cruelty Squad, which is practically a sequel in its mechanics and themes.
>>738675860>See Cruelty Squad, which is practically a sequelBrother.That is ridiculous.
>>738675860Cruelty Squad is also a jank ass, feels like you need more weapon slots and more augmentation slots>only 1 slot for legs>brouzouf left the server
>>738676056No, he's right, Cruelty Squad is definitely a modern day Deus Ex thematically if not in its JANK ASS gameplay
>>738676056It's okay to say you haven't played it.
>>738675534Well yeah sure, but the video you linked >>738674779 is like straight out of a john birch society pamphlet
>>738676372I've played it. You're just retarded is all.
>>738676261Lmao so every game with bad gameplay is a spiritual successor to Deus Ex
>>738675713Yes, so what? I play many, many old games, some much older than deus ex, and i can still easily enjoy them. >>738675860I enjoyed cruelty squad quite a bit. It certainly feels far better to play than deus ex, thats for sure.
>>738649556Just play on easy. Nobody plays 20+ year old games for combat
>America is finally waking up to the jeet menace
>>738649556>frustrating chance-based bullshitaaaaand you're retarded
>>738649556They hated him because he spoke the truth
>>738676629Well the thing about deus ex is it does shooting (badly) it does stealth (badly) and roleplaying (semi-competently) but it was THE FIRST to do all 3 (Fallout sort of counts but it's not 3D or real time) so it gets a pass from a lot of boomersZoomers have games that have shooting, stealthing with some light RPing as STANDARD so nobody really thinks twice about it
>>738678273>shooting, stealthing with some light RPing as STANDARDSuch as
>>738649556you are completely right anondon't let anyone tell you otherwise
>>738675860Is it really? I've been burned once by buying E.Y.E.Not every game with augmentations or a theme of transhumanism is just like Deus Ex, and they shouldn't really be compared, I think. E.Y.E. is a good game on its own right but there's few actual similarities between schizo's bizzare adventure in his own head and spying&conspiracy simulator. You are absolutely not supposed to take it slow, for example.Does Cruelty Squad have similar level design and stealth like Deus Ex? Are there like, alternate routes that require codes and stuff you can actually find?
>>738650567>big emptyTIIIIIME TO TAKE 'ER HOME 'ER DIZZY HEAD...
>>738678273Theres a laser sight in the first area you can plop on your gat and suddenly the game is fun.
>>738649689No he's just asking a question
>>738678637Literally any modern action-adventure sloppa
>>738679430Can't expect zoomers to find items and also read item descriptions (and also rebinding the laser sight key because the default sucks)
>>738649556It's an old ass, janky RPG. Yeah the gunplay and combat is straight up not good, but it still is a pretty deep game with a lot to it. If you get used to the systems and get immersed into the story it's a lot of fun.Btw it's really not chance based at all, it just has a strange aiming system and you have to play the game very tactically.
>>738651907"Deus Ex is dogshit" is about as popular of an opinion as "Citizen Kane is dogshit".
>>738649689That's terror.
>>738681658Citizen Kane is dogshit, but I think Deus Ex has enough to like in it to please any kind of gamer>music>atmosphere>setting>worldbuilding>story & characters>even the hammy voice actingAre all worth a consideration if you straight up hate the gameplayHow can a shitty 90 minute boomer flick even compete?
>>738654809Deus Ex systems work fine but even as a masive fan of the game I gotta admit there's some massive jank in there. The aiming and the gunplay is shit, and there is a bunch of stupid shit like how you have to hit guys in like a specific vertabra in their back to knock them out with a dart or baton. It's a great game but it's the sum of its parts.
>>738678963Cruelty Squad borrows a bit from Deus Ex as well as Hitman but is definitely its own thing. The levels are almost all assassination missions which you can go about however you want. Not as heavy on hacking and passwords but plenty of side entrances and creative use of augments. It’s far more focused than EYE’s game design.
>>738681782>Citizen Kane is dogshitNah it's an incredible movie, it's just very unconventional in its structure and storytelling (it was at the time, and it still is now). It's basically the same story as Deus Ex where it filters plebs automatically because it's dated, unusual, and it doesn't hold your hand, but once you get past that it is very rewarding and interesting.I seriously have never heard a good argument against it being a good movie, it always just boils down to "boring"
>>738682712Now do The Wicker Man. The proper one not the crap remake.
>>738649556lol
>>738682968Wicker Man is a black comedy that satirizes religion
>>738683236Are you doubting the word of our lord and saviour?!?!
>>738649556what a shame
>>738649556I thought the gameplay was fun, and found the story to be meh.Sure it has memorble quotes, accurate commentary on society, and Illuminati alien shit was cool, but the overall plot was kind of basic, and endings were half-arsed piss that's barely a conclusion.
>>738683730Honestly the actual substance of the story is a lot of rambling schizo bullshit. The depth is in how interactive the story is
>>738682712I hope you realize citizen kane was mostly praised because it had a lot of production techniques that were unique at the time.
>>738684291NTA, but yeah. A lot like Deus Ex had unique gameplay for 2000 but not so much in the modern day.
>>738676934That makes me one ugly son of a bitch
>>738684291It did all those new techniques flawelessly and on top of that it's just a really good and interesting movie too. Everything about it is really well executed, even the stuff that seems weird and clunky at first is actually completely intentional. It looks great, the acting is great, Kane is a great character, there is so much to love. I feel like people dismissing it is just because it gets hyped up so fucking much so people who really can't handle a weird artsy unconventional movie from the 40's end up seeing it and they end up getting filtered. Basically the movie is so overrated that is became underrated
>>738686486I did a project on Orson Welles in high school, mostly this movie, so I watched it and I thought it was good.
>>738649556you're right. but the game is more than the wonky combat.In fact, the combat gets better as you put points into skills, making your guns less rng based.Play the tutorial, it teaches you everything.
>>738685409Deus Ex actually does have a level of interactivity and immersion that you practically don't see today, not even in the new Deus Ex games. Only Fallout: New Vegas and Baldur's Gate 3 compare really.
>>738686765>Deus Ex actually does have a level of interactivity and immersionDuke Nukem 3D also had that, it's not what made Deus Ex stand out
>>738676934It's nice to see some things are still considered holy in this day and age
>>738686486>Everything about it is really well executed, even the stuff that seems weird and clunky at first is actually completely intentionalI say this about the Star Wars prequel trilogy
>>738686882It's true for the prequel trilogy but only half the time. A lot of the weird shit in those movies are legit fuckups but there is some genuibely interesting and clever shit going on too. I recently rewatched them and I was stunned that Hayden Christianson as Anakin is actually straight up good because I finally understand what Lucas was going for with him but there is still a bunch of shit with his character that just doesn't work dramaturgically
/v/.I... I......I thought you were a GEP gun
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>>738688245>gep gun is so OP it trivializes the game>now to demonstrate I shall use it as a less expensive and louder lockpick>meanwhile nobody mentions the flamethrower that can take out 90% of enemies in one trigger squeeze for like 9 ammo
>>738649689Based bait
>>738689807Why does any of that matter when your pistol kills them from outside of their hearing range at a much faster and farther rate?
>>738689889Deus Ex actually has a very terrible bullet drop mechanic. So your pistol shot outside its max range will hit the feet regardless of how you aimed the shot. There's no bullet drop but it will always hit legs if its out of range. One way to stop you from carrying a sniper rifle in a 1x1 inventory slot.
>>738649556you just dont like old games.
>>738690134I think most people like good games regardless of when they were made
>>738690213a ton of people here get filtered by ps2/ps1 games because they are too old.
