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I used to hope it would be affordable, probably in the $400 range. But after seeing pic related, I instantly felt bad asking for such a low price.

As you can see, the poor Valve employee here is clearly financially struggling. He has only enough money to buy a former star's Beverly Hills house. He has only enough money to NOT use that expensive house as it is... but instead, to pay extra to get it demolished. He has only enough money to pay extra to build an entire new house which ONLY includes an underground parking, a swimming pool, and a tennis court.

If you have ANY empathy for this Valve employee, you would feel bad for him. Los Angeles is known for having extremely bad traffic, and an easy way to fix that would be to build a helipad.

Helipads take money. Luxury car collections take money. Trips to the Côte d'Azur take money.

Can we all agree that the Steam Machine should cost AT LEAST $1000, so we can GUARANTEE Valve employees can finish building their very humble homes once and for all?

Valve employees like this one have spent the last two decades doing wonderful things for us gamers. They have crafted SO MANY unique cosmetic items and intriguing chests I got to acquire in Dota 2 and CS2. Without these very useful cosmetic items, I don't know what the gaming world would look like today.

I really hope they raise the price of their innovative piece of hardware so I can contribute even more to these VERY talented, and VERY deserving Valve employees.
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>>738658779
Hope he didn't design his new house with archviles and chaingunners
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bump
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>>738658779
>Dario Casali
He did the Questionable Ethics levels in Half-Life. He can burn Bev Hills to the ground for all I care.
(He did Residue Processing as well which sucked though)
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is this supposed to be it?
well wouldn't have minded to boink that lady in that house
>May 13, 2019 (aged 97)
Carmel Valley, California, U.S.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdUjvb7XjOI
DORIS DAY's Beverly Hills House & Nate'n Al's Delicatessen - Daze with Jordan the Lion - 375K subscribers 196K views 5 years ago
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>>738658779
>Can we all agree that the Steam Machine should cost AT LEAST $1000
make it at least $2000

>>738662404
different house
>https://hookedonhouses.net/2020/03/31/doris-days-house-carmel-estate-auction/
boink boink
special place just for me and her
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>>738662404
My question is do these Valve employees deserve such high salaries? Sure, Half-Life 1 and 2 were good. Some other of their games too. But that was like 20 years ago. What do guys like him do at Valve for so long, and get paid so much they can live like literal kings?
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>>738658779
>doris day
who
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>>738658779
How the fuck is he that rich? He hasn't even done anything for like two decades.
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>>738658960
Guaranteed filled with the most "fuck you" monster closets.
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>>738660919
Residue Processing isn't a bad level, it's hard to judge it fairly because it's immediately after "fuck you, we're taking all your guns."
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>>738663312
Royalties maybe? He's one of the og devs after all. Carmack, Romero and Adrian still receive royalties to this day so I guess there's something similar going on here
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Dario hasn't worked for valve in like 5 years. LA to Seattle would be a fucked up commute. It does kinda raise the question of what has he been doing that he can afford a Beverly Hills mansion.
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>>738663312
Making over 500k a year for almost 30 years would make you quite rich anon.
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>>738663672
According to that link the house was sold for $7.4m. That's almost half of the $15m you'd make on 500k a year for 30 years, assuming you somehow spent nothing and dodged taxes.
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how many levels of irony do I have to be on to use this website anymore
you kids are insane
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>>738663106
>deserve such high salaries
pointless question

unless something is tightly regulated (hoarding and pricing of food. even this has a lot of leeway) then you can do whatever you want

how much employees make in a company should never be a topic of discussion from the perspective of the people / a state unless they are slaves yanked from these people or some type of forced labor is happening or they are low IQ and literally can't advocate for themselves
> Migaloo is now taking orders for a luxury submersible superyacht called the M5 that most multi-billionaires can only dream of owning. The company is asking 10 figures for the seacraft limiting its clientele to the richest of the rich.
> There were 2,540 billionaires in the world as of last year, according to Forbes. And less than two-thirds of them are even worth as much as the M5’s $2 billion asking price. To put this sum into perspective, the M5 will cost more than twice as much as the world’s most expensive yacht, Lürssen’s $800 million Dilbar, and more than four times as much as Jeff Bezos spent on the $485 million Koru.
https://robbreport.com/motors/marine/migaloo-m5-luxury-submersible-superyacht-2-billion-1235488126/
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>>738663860
The stock market has grown 6x in size since 98, with just a conservative financial advisor he could've turned a third of his lifetime salary into 20mil. That's with a conservative estimate of his pay, valve year end bonuses have been rumoured to be >100% of a employees salary.
I'd guess he went further than just passively playing the stock market. his mother also wrote some kind of famous poetry series in Britain, might be catching residuals on that.
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>>738663106
Why would you ever justify a worker getting paid less?
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>>738663672
The guy was studying economics in the UK and made Doom maps as a hobby before he was hired by Valve, where he was a "Level Designer".

The guy is not a Software Engineer. Nothing justifies some "random modder" to get paid that much. Especially not when the company he worked for hasn't been making games requiring his expertise in "level design" for years.
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>Steam Machine will be overpriced for normal gamers but interesting to see reviewed
>All Valve's recent work of FEX and native ARM64 Steam Client
>Valve already confirming there will be no AMD based Steam Deck 2

Future is ARM based Steam Deck 2, Intel and AMD are overpriced and would rather chase unlimited AI datacentre bux then provide affordable consumer hardware. Chinky flagship smartphone SoCs, which are already powering various chinese android gaming devices are competitive with the OG decks. As long as Gaben insists on good mainlined Linux drivers I welcome this.
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>>738664561
>has both niche technical skills and artistic sense and can get shit done
I honestly respect that more then some leetcode grinding code monkey.STEMlord.
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>>738658779
I don't understand what you're upset about. Valve makes too much money? They host the only service in all of gaming that has evaded enshittification for multiple consecutive decades. I don't care how little your job description implies you should be doing, there's no way anyone at Valve is sitting around doing nothing waiting to have work assigned.
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>>738665275
What have they done? They release shitty Dota 2/CS 2 cosmetics and make "game events". They try to coerce players into spending more and more on useless crap. They've been doing that pitiful shit for decades.

I can understand how someone like the late Vince Zampella can be paid that much, because he was actually GETTING SHIT DONE.
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>>738658779
Valve is such a shitty company and normies fall over backwards to defend their kike practices.
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>>738666028
>What have they done?
Fought enshittification with more success than literally any other company in gaming.
Did so with control over something as fundamental as a storefront.
They easily deserve ten more years of coasting.
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>>738666453
I love how everyone forgets Steam/Valve is the root of all enshittification.
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>>738666547
What do you think enshittification even means? "Company I don't like"? Valve started off with purely paid products and bridged into Steam only after it took off. Steam itself has always been the same amount free, the storefront works as well now as it always has, and I can't name a single feature that they actually removed rather than replacing or improving. Enshittification means using a free product to get your fame and then making the free thing shit because it was never profitable to offer something so good for free.
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>>738666453
>force people to use invasive software like Steam to access their games
>"update to Windows 10 or higher, because we won't support Windows 8.1 anymore and you'll lose access to all of your games... whoops"
>create addictive multiplayer games
>introduce lootboxes (which fall under "child gambling" in European legislations
>introduce paid cosmetics and inspire ALL other studios to do the same and create the cancer of gaming in 2026
>make updates for your multiplayer games, but instead of improving them, you make the games somehow shittier and shittier with each update... despite having bigger and bigger funds to make improvements
>release shit hardware
>re-release better models of shit hardware to make people buy twice, like the Steam Deck OLED (similar predatory tactic used by Nvidia when they release improved cards in quick succession)

The list could go on and on.
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>>738668813
I didn't realize epic was still paying shills.
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>rich people bad because... BECAUSE BAD MKAY?
Don't care, still using Steam
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>>738663106
It's from unethical practices such as gambling and dodgy investments. Arguably worse because it dodges gambling and financial regulations.
At best it's anti-consumer. Assuming he works at Valve that is.
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>>738668813
Steam is better than literally everything that poses itself as a competitor or alternative. Under these conditions, anyone complaining about being "forced" to use Steam is just being retarded.
Also, I don't think lootboxes or cosmetics are an inherent problem for games. I believe it's easy to make them a problem, but the idea that they're always automatically problems is only spouted by people who want to shut down discussion.
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>>738658779
Man probably wasn't satisfied with how many skeletons were in all the closets and figured he could do better.
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>>738663106
That is such a reddit thing to ask
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>>738669235
You don't think lootboxes are a problem?

It literally sows the gambling seed in young, blossoming brains. Kids start playing Dota 2/CS2 for fun, but they end up with a severe gambling problem that transpires into sports betting or straight up casinos later on. This is not MY opinion, but the opinion shared by various professionals and legislators.

As for cosmetics...

If you don't understand how cosmetics make games shittier, then let me remind you of Team Fortress 2. The split second Valve noticed people were throwing money for useless cosmetics, they turned the game F2P and have used that system for decades now. Why would they spend money on making GOOD games that take time (like Half-Life 2) and have a single $50-60 fee per customer... when they can just milk people out of hundreds of dollars PER PERSON per week for useless crap that takes an afternoon to model in Blender?

It's so much more profitable to sell cosmetic junk than create good games like they used to. And THEY are the ones who initiated that shit practice and inspired all other studios who do that same shit. So you end up with shit quality games that are purposefully bland in their base version, just so they can milk you with flashy paid items later on.

If you think this is good for the industry, then I don't know what to tell you.
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>>738670615
>You don't think lootboxes are a problem?
No I don't, and I think all the legislators getting up in arms about them are fucking idiots. Any kid who wants to start gambling in counter strike needs to either ask their parent or steal their parent's credit card. This is like saying the very premise of internet porn is dangerous and all forms of image and video upload should go through the government because kids can google "naked woman" and get 5 billion results.
>but cosmetics!
If you're about to tell me that you specifically blame Valve for the spread of F2P with microtransactions as a model of gaming, please fuck off. Real money cosmetics predate TF2 hats no matter how you want to spin it, and the rise of F2P with MTX would've happened with or without valve.
I also don't consider it directly negative for a game to be free and have microtransactions. This usually lets me get more out of a game for less money.
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>>738671398
Yes, Valve is to blame for the spread of microtransactions. They were the biggest storefront on PC at the time, which means many people already had funds on their platform or were at least familiar to putting funds on their account. This means the environment to just click away and buy cosmetics was already set in place.

On top of that, there were not many other launchers at the time. Perhaps Blizzard's BattleNet. But such small, intricate launchers were not really platforms where mass microtransactions could take off due to the fact people didn't put funds on those launchers, simply because there was nothing to buy.
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>>738672683
>Yes, Valve is to blame for the spread of microtransactions.
Are you unironically arguing that valve is at fault for MTX because they made people willing to spend money on games via their computer, like in general? Are you high?
Valve didn't invent MTX nor is it remotely sane to blame them for "making it easy to engage with MTX" just because they made a functional fucking platform. The rise of a functional game buying platform on PC was absolutely inevitable, Steam being that platform is a miraculous aversion of the horrible fate this otherwise would've been.
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>>738670615
>>738658779
stop seething about steam daily you mentally ill snoyjeet shitskin
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>>738673053
Oh yeah, it's pretty clear under whose payroll you are. I should have sniffed it way earlier.

"₹10 INR have been deposited in your Steam wallet"... I guess?
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>>738673741
steam is absolutely not popular in india, despite being the most populous country, but console gaming epecially playstation is
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>>738673741
You are arguing that if Steam hadn't existed, nobody would be easily able to spend money on video games and thus MTX wouldn't exist. This is your argument as far as I can tell. If understanding your argument this way makes me a "shill" then the term is meaningless.
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what the fuck?
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>>738666028
Damn this is how I find out Zampella died. We're never getting Titanfall 3.
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>>738658779
Is there something special or interesting about Doris Day's house? I doubt she still relevant enough to warrant including her name purely for clickbaiting.
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>all these people talking about microtransactions and shit
>casali mostly worked on singleplayer games or valve's very early multiplayer games
lol
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>>738663106
High salaries have never and will never be a matter of merit.
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>>738675410
I blame Valve for the spread of microtransactions and for shifting the industry away from physical media. I am not here to speculate about what would have happened in an alternate timeline. No need to respond, as I can predict your response will be a variation of "Valve is the best company ever... THEY are right... everyone else is WRONG... hurrr".

>>738676249
To be honest, I'm not quite sure who she is. It's just some interesting news I saw. Doris is not that relevant. The point being how Valve game developers can be paid so much as to buy expensive luxurious homes in Beverly Hills... while the company hasn't released anything meaningful in decades. Like, I understand Facebook/Google-type companies who pay their engineers big bucks (and offer stock options) because they actually deliver the goods. But, in my opinion some washed out "level designer", probably making some Dota 2 sets for the last decade or so should NOT be paid that much, and I would NOT feel confident giving my money to that same company in exchange of overpriced hardware made-in-china.
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>>738677252
>I blame Valve for taking something that was literally inevitable and doing it in the least awful way possible
Good to know you realize your opinion is completely worthless.
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>>738663106
>deserve
Communist crybaby bullshit



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