Why haven't you learned Japanese yet?
>>738686292Gemini will learn it for me
>>738686292My attention span is fucked and my head can only squeeze in my few existing hobbies.
Why the fuck would ever I learn their bugshit language? THEY should learn EnglishRemember hiroshima and nagasaki? Stay in your place
lol who cares nigga you wasted your life learning this shit when i slam it into AI and it translates it for me perfectly better than you could
>>738686292retarded language only spoken by one of the worst civilizations on earth
What's the sentence structure? How do I talk good in japenese?
>>738686292Why do localizers love to turn scripts into capeshit dialogue?
I wanna learn Japanese but moreso to recapture that childhood nostalgia of being a young American kindergartner military brat stationed in Japan. I miss the sites, the wonder of not really knowing where I am or why everything is so strange but liking it anyways, Seeing a bunch of anime that I would later find online and all those candies that I loved that might be out of production. Being a young boy with a crush on a Japanese girl who kissed me. I know that everything has changed drastically and no matter what, I was a young kid and even if I went back in time to that era, it would be so different now that I am an adult, but fuck I miss it and learning japanese was one way for me to relish the nostalgia while I remember it. I hope I can rekindle that when I relearn japanese as I am preparing to go back in college. Haven't studied nihhonese since the first couple months of COVID
>decide to learn japanese 2 years ago so i could watch my jp chuubas without clippers>use livestreams as my sole source of listening comprehension>sound like a girl now whenever i talk because of all the feminine speech patterns and lingo i always hear
>>738686292Dont want to bother learning 2 or 3 alphabets that I'll realistically never use. Wanted to learn japspeak so I begrudgingly learned hiragana but then the lessons went on to katakana and I said fuck that. Would be nice if there were good resources to learn with only romaji or hiragana, because I'm just not interested enough otherwise
Every time I go to Japan I do great keeping on top of my studying, it's so easy, but every time I return to America it's difficult to get the daily immersion and also I get incredibly depressed from leaving Japan and returning to America.
>>738687382it takes like 3 days to learn all hiragana and katakana lol
>>738687382You would use the alphabets in Japspeak. That's the point.If you want to speak Jap but don't want to learn alphabets, then what the fuck do you want to learn then?
>>738687645To speak it. Why the fuck would I want to read it? The english alphabet is more efficient anyways. If somebody came up with a course which used only romaji and focused on listening comprehension and interaction it'd be a top seller
>>738686292Cause im never gonna live there. Probably wont get a chance to visit either...
Ai,bruh
>>738686292I tried but got burnt out after an hour of anki a day and trying and failing to wrap my head around grammar. I'll give it another shot eventually but I think I might just be retarded. I fucking hate grammar.
>>738686292It's crazy looking back at stuff like this. There was so much good-will that people really did just believe insane rewrites were okay because they must've gotten permission.
>>738686292I'm trying, but it's been 3 years so far and I'm losing hope.
>>738687535I am not gifted in language-learning by any means (performed very poorly in foreign languages at school), but 3 days sounds very generous to me.I think I memorised all the hiragana in an afternoon.
>>738688814I find a powerful motivator in hate. I hate them. Should be easy to hate them more than you hate your own ineptitude.
>>738689058the thing is, you can just brute force the kana somewhat. just familiarize yourself with it over a weekend, its ok to not remember everything after that 3 days because you will be seeing them so much. you'll correct yourself when you get it wrong and eventually you will remember them 100%
>>738689058Took me a few weeks but Im not much of a weeb anymore and only saw hiragana in my textbook and used it during lessons. Then forgot a lot of it after a month of not studying. Same probably would've happened with katakana had I kept going but I just lost motivation. Not visiting Japan anytime soon and have no reason to use the alphabets outside of the lessons
>>738686292i'm officially certified in japanese, pic related.>WAAH IT'S THE N4n4 is all you need to move to japan technically, as far as government requirements go, for the highly specific visa i'm aiming for.Japanese gets easier the more you learn. It has a bunch of casual filters built into the language to prevent people from understanding it.Things like, "Wait, japanese people write wa as ha but pronounce it wa when used as a topic marker?" filter beginner learners.Japanese is full of this, eventually you get used to it and learning more japanese becomes easier.
>>738689652zased n4GOD
I have no one to talk to so its kinda hard to actually immerse myself in the language
>>738689827at my level (learning n3) there's the 末 and 未 thing...the "bullshit" aspect of japanese never goes away, but you learn to love it.another beginner mistake is シvsツ and ンvsソ>>738689930play japanese videogames. or talk to a japanese AI. AI2U is a good videogame that does this with japanese language support.i should do this desu.
>>738686292I'm hard at work to finally get my N1, but it's too hardworst part is you're only halfway there after getting it, so it's quite disheartening
lack of self motivation. i see shitloads of untranslated games i got from myrient before shut down, but im too lazy to do anything right now.
>>738690079literally grab the shin kanzen book and grab some practice tests, then look up the grammar points as you read. look up words you don't get in the dictionary. there you go. easy enough
>>738689652>Things like, "Wait, japanese people write wa as ha but pronounce it wa when used as a topic marker?" filter beginner learners.no it fucking doesn'tthat's one of the easiest things to remember what are you talking about
>>738690256Yesterday someone was bitching about k/s/a
>>738690079>>738690169past examshttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LBMkmeL9OuTzuSf043Mtw_Y2vvVx5LMLlooks like the google drive for shin kanzen master got shut down, thankfully i have all the files.
>>738690256you literally fell for the bait
>>738690368fuckwhat do I do now?
>>738690397run to the nearest tera in geta and dogeza in front of the giant buddha statue 108 times to apologize
>>738690459on iti'll wear my eboshi too
>Got to lvl 60 in Wanikani, burned 1105 kanji and4341 vocab words but barely studied grammar at all in the process. So even though I have this amount of JP "learned" I am still functionally illiterate.Uhh, you guys happen to have any good JP grammar book recommendations? I don't need immersion content atm since I've got more than enough material if I really wanted that, from VNs, vtubers, to sadpanda, to japanese.io.
>>738690885Read Genki 1
>>738686292>not necessarily a bad thingWhy do all these comparisonfags always deepthroat localizerdick so much?
>>738690885Genki 1 - > Genki 2 or Minna no Nihongo -> Tobira (universities usually stop here) -> Shin Kanzen Master is the pipeline.Shin Kanzen Master is the series of books specific about jlpt grammar, so if you're looking to pass the jlpt n3 or higher, you'll want to read the book.however..game gengo also has a video on complete n3 grammar and complete n2 grammar. i'm not sure what /djt/'s take on it is yet though.
>>738690993because its true
As a non eop, Japanese has a lot of ways to convey tone in text that simply don't exist in English, and localizers have to cope by making the dialog over the top because if you translate literally it sounds pretty dry. Even the "literal translation" in the op is ornamented, not as much though. It's only when the localization starts to remove or make stuff up that I draw the line.
>>738690885Is wanikani good?
>>738691383Eh, its pace was okay. And for better or worse, I liked that the site had little writes up and mnemonics to try to help you remember the characters better. And I'm pretty sure you can go through a core 2k deck on Anki a lot faster than you can with Wanikani - with Wanikani I'm at about 950 days of daily reviews - but I would have probably burnt out before even completing that 2k deck with Anki in comparison. Early on, I had tried to do about 10 new cards a day, then at the middling portion I tried to just add as many new cards as possible, got blasted with a huge 300+ reviews a day, then tried to slow down my daily reviews to about 200 a day and that's more comfortable for me.
i got filtered years ago... do i try again bros?
>>738691202just by playing gaymu, reading mango, and watching animu you can pick up the grammar on your own. n3 is doable without opening a book, but reviewing for the exam is recommended. dedicated study is strongy advised for n2 and n1 since some n2 grammar points are relatively uncommon (i.e. you don't hear people using だけに, だけあって, ことか, あまりのXに/で, にあたって, に先立って, etc. every 5 sentences or so) and you need to be careful with groups like にともなって/とともに/にしたがって/につれて, and half of n1 is formal/literary stuff which you won't see often unless you're into reading books or stiff ceremonies (かたがた, かたわら, そばから, てからというもの, の至り, 極まりない, が最後, を皮切りに, かと思いきや, ようかまいか, こととて, にあって, XあってのY, をもって, にひきかえ, etc.)the real challenge is actually using the fancy words you're forced to cram but that's beyond the scope of the jlpt
>>738687905>If somebody came up with a course which used only romaji and focused on listening comprehension and interaction it'd be a top sellerIt wouldn't because it's a dogshit idea. If you want to learn japanese then learn their alphabets instead of doing retarded corner cutting. If hiragana and katakana is already too much then don't bother
>>738686292I want to intensify my reading skills but fuck me my other hobbies (drawing) eat up a lot of my time. I've just began doing immersion nowadays after weeks of grinding kanas but my current interests (western rock music) don't really align as much. Or maybe im too fucked up in the head to have a proper schedule
Cutesythea!
>>738690169>>738690305thanks, will check later
>>738692617playing ai2u in japanese right now. hit with pic related.it's actually not that hard to understand.
>>738686292i don't know where to start with kanji, it's overwhelming.
>>738687905Okay, so you've got your romaji text book and you learn 'inu', 'ookii', 'geemu wo suru', etc. etc.Then what? You can't read, so you can't increase your vocabulary through exposure like a normal person. You'd need a series of books written for and by autists who want to speak Japanese while remaining illiterate for some reason.Do you have your romaji 'senmonyougo' dictionary?You're denying yourself the easiest way to learn a language (reading) and stunting yourself for no logical reason.
>>738692630>waste your time learning 2 unnecessary alphabets in order to learn to make noises. nevermind that those noises are common to many languages which already use your superior alphabet. what, you wanna just learn to make the noises? why would you want to do that?lol
>>738690169Kanji is so retarded and the whole fact they stole it make it even more retarded, so no way fag
>>738687143>he fell for the "don't use ore and kuu because it's rude! use watashi, boku, and taberu instead" meme
>>738686292EN Mae is way better
>>738694654Congrats, you're the lowest common dominator that these marvel quip writing localizers are targeting.
>>738693675shin kanzen grammar n3, n2, and n1. and while you're at it you can also get the 3 dictionaries of japanese grammar (they're in english)for listening, just listen to animu, dramas, etc. listening tests are recommended if you're gonna sit the jlptas for your reading speed for the N1, it should hover at around 130 characters per minute to stand a chance (natives read at 400~600/min for comparison)
>>738687143It's far easier to just change your speaking patterns than it is to learn it from scratch.It's like complaining you have to change graphics settings on a game after going through the effort of downloading the 500gb mess.
>>738686292I was doing great with hiragana and katakana, but then the hyeroglyphs filtered me. It's been 4 years and I still want to give it another shot, but my schedule is too busy between being a student, working, having a social life, and getting some actual rest. The last time I touched vidya was 2 weeks ago for around 40 minutes.
>>738694624I still use watashi after more than ten years of study.Good enough for Perfect Cell, good enough for me.
>>738694617everyone says that when starting outby the time you're halfway done, you start bitching when there aren't any runes. e.g. shit like バッタリ, ポカリ, コロコロ, きっかり, ずばり, もじゃもじゃ, ホロホロ, こそこそ, そこそこ, パッと, しんどい, メラメラ, ズラリ, すんなり, すいすい, ホッと, がらん, がらがら, がやがや, ざっと, ちらっと, ニヤニヤ, きちんと, ぶるぶる, もこもこ, ふわふわ, カラカラ, こんがらがる, はったり, etc.
>>738686292I have no interest in living in Japan since it seems like a suffocating place to live and as such have no purpose for learning Japanese. Yes, anime and vidya in original tongue but if enjoying works in their original language is the entire purpose for it then I'd also have to learn French, German, Russian, Mandarin, and Korean as well which is ridiculous.
>>738698821You likely consume a million times more Jap art than you do French/Germ/Rus etc.
>>738690305Thanks. Will check later.
When you're a beginner, kanji are daunting, but once you are trying to read books for native speakers they become your best friend.Vocabulary is going to be an issue far more often than anything else from intermediate level and beyond and kanji really help in giving you an idea of what a word means even if you can't actually read it.
>>738686292The more I studied Japanese, the more I began to dislike the culture to the point that I developed a disdain for it even. They're excessively fake people. Eventually decided that they're a bunch of fags. Also realized that I'm never really going to use it anyways and lost motivation to continue learning it
>>738698995I consume more Japanese animation than European animation but also more European literature, film, and music than Japanese literature, film, and music. Video games are just a total mix. In any case, I'd rather spend the effort to learn something useful to my day to day life and I don't see how Japanese could be that without moving to Japan.
>>738694793That's Fire Emblem's target audience
what's the point I enjoy reclining my seat back and storing my luggage in provided spaces too much to ever fit into japanese society
>>738686292I already didNow modern japanese media is either pozzed beyond belief or aimed at retarded ZOOMERS sao now i barely use it aside from playing old shit or watching old animeThere is also manga porn but I barely read those nowadays
if you cant write 憂鬱 then you should be hanged
>>738686292Soon.
Not too long ago I used my phone to make translated notes for Yoot Tower's Statue of Liberty expansion pack and posted it to my site with pictures and other notes. I don't think anyone cared, but I'm still proud of it.
>>738699374>Now modern japanese media is either pozzed beyond belief or aimed at retarded ZOOMERS sao now i barely use it aside from playing old shit or watching old animeThat's not even that bad of a problem, since there is a good chunk of good old JP media to consume anyway.
>>738699424That would be depressing if one couldn't.
>>738693852start with this一 - oneニ - two三 - three
>>738700071you lost me, can you go a little slower?
i passed n2got a translator jobstill paid pennies in this shit economyknow enough to enjoy shit i care abouti dont have much motivation to keep studying, for n1 or in general.i kind of have grown to hate japan
I just need to get into the habit of reading consistently but right now I have a problem with that because1) Playing a game while learning will take painfully long, I actually want to enjoy the process instead of making it drag forever, I also don't want to start with baby-tier shit because it's not interesting2) Ultimately it's irrelevant for me outside of gaming, I don't watch anime, I don't read manga and the occasional jrpg in my native language has a good enough translation/localization, I also will likely never visit Japan so yeah the effort/time investment payoff looks pretty grim for nowgo on without me bros, unless someone has advice on how to deal with this apparent lack of intrinsic motivation
>>738700491Was it the fakeness, the naive childish people, the cringe pop-culture, the endless consoom of faggy little trinkets, the uptight rules/regulations, or something else?
>>738701117too many things to countonly reason i havent left yet is i work from home and i can pay like 20 or 30k to get girls to sit on my face and shit quite easily
>>738700762>I don't watch anime, I don't read mangaWhy not? That's like half the reason to learn Japanese.
>>738701370I used to watch anime when I was younger and then I just lost interest and never picked it up againManga on the other hand just never clicked with me despite trying to get into several of them, I'm always open to recommendations and I approach it with an open mind, regular books already cover most of my reading needs
>>738686292can't read shit but I can understand le spoken language just fine
>>738701610read Dungeon Meshi
>>738700491Well I came here on JET, got hired directly as a CIR after I did my 5 years and yeah work sucks since I had to take a pay cut to keep the job (JETs honestly get to live like kings) and I have to pretend to be a silly piece of playground equipment for kindergarteners every other morning but I love Japan and all the cool shit I get to do. Oddly enough learning to speak toddlers probably improved my Japanese more than anything
>>738686292The time investment vs other productive things I want to do keeps me from getting further into kanji>>738687521Well yeah it's easier to learn a language when you surround yourself with it
i haven't forgave them for Pearl Harbor
>>738701610read Aho Girl
>>738702003how long have you been here, how old are you
>>738702140Came here at 25, currently 31.
>>738686292I don't need to learn anything, we have technology.
>>738702265well if youre not sick of the teaching life and genuinely like it nothing i say matters
>>738702292Sing ABCs for an hour with kids that barely can barely speak Japanese isn't teaching, CIRs do translation and interpretation work and can also handle things like organizing English related event for schools/the city. I guess I do "volunteer" to teach Japanese to adults once a week, but I don't do much teaching.
>>738702269Your MTL sucks because the JP is referring to Boey and not boys.
>>738686292It's too hard and I don't think I would ever use it>don't read manga anymore>barely watch anime>most played games are competitive or euro indie gamesI can't even remember the last Japanese game I played besides MHWorld. It just seems worthless and like something you'd only see through if you have
>>738700762Motivation doesn't exist it's just habits and energy. If you maintain good habits to increase your energy potential and use it thoughtfully you'll be more receptive to whatever it is that attracts you. Either way you'll never want to do something difficult at first but if you form the habit you'll actually start to learn about what you enjoy working on instead of being dominated by a reflexive dopamine loop like a spiritually brown person.
>>738703913Although my translator is basic and archaic, I blame the japs for using retarded names for their characters.At least I don't need to see the trannyslators garbage.
>>738686292Japan is rapidly becoming a cucked nation, that's why.>inb4 /pol/No. That was my actual reason why I stopped learning it actively 2 years ago. I don't like the trajectory the country is on, it's all going downhill, there is not a single light at the end of the tunnel. So I stopped.
>>738686292I'm trying but I'm retarded when it comes to languages. Been studying for over a year and still can't understand shit when listening to teppei.
>>738686801Failed writers with massive egos who are also resentful ideologues who believe it's their jobs to be Soviet Commissars genociding the evil counter-revolutionaries.
i just de-reddit the dialogue in my head and get back to an approximate translation.I've been doing it for years and years with anime subs already
>>738706705and to think there was another sane individual on /v/ all along
>>738686292>it is likely to give characters more personality >not necessarily a bad thingTrannylators are bad but fuck retards that defend this shit even more
>>738686292i'm almost finished with my kaishi 1.5k deck and im kind of worried about the next step. i heard people say you should sentence mine after completing kaishi instead of starting another core vocab deck. i'm just worried because i'm not good with "free form" plans, i like the structure that a premade deck provides. how would i go about mining new kanji? can i just set it up literally how kaishi 1.5k does it? with the kanji in the front + a sentence including the kanji, and the definition in the back? do i just copy the definition from a dictionary or something?
>>738686292I'm lazy and retarded.
Test
>>738686292I'm NEET again so I have the time. The issue is that I have realized that without some kind of tutor to teach me the basics of anything I just can't seem to get things at all.
>>738707842you don't need a tutor man. especially since japanese has so many resources online in english. just follow something like https://djtguide.neocities.org/guide#Introductionor https://learnjapanese.moe/that will teach you everything you need to do, the rest is on you to develop the discipline to do it consistently. learning japanese has never been easier, there are way more resources now than there was 10 years ago
>>738689290>the stereotype of females acting scared and helpless>this doesn't make sense to the westWhat the fuck is this kike talking about?
>>738686756Imagine a sentence in English and then reverse all the words.
>>738686292Because I don't play Japanese games, they're extremely limited and generally boring if you're not into platformers/action games.
>>738708053>there are way more resources now than there was 10 years agoLiterally all that has changed in terms of resources over the past decade is that more Japanese shows started having available subtitles.What the fuck else has changed? Grammar? Japanese the manga way into DOJG is all you've ever needed. Anki decks? It doesn't fucking matter if you do core2k or superspecialドラクエonlydeckbecause委員会isscary1.5k, 95% of your anki time will always be spent on mining decks if you're not retarded anyway. I guess you can pump shit into jeetGPT and get an interpretation that may or may not be completely fucking wrong and just hope for the best, but that's not really an improvement.
why bother learning another language when we have universal translators now?
>>738708474so i can watch my cute jp vtubers live
>>738708236Jeet and Kikegpt will always be incorrect due to "sensibilities" they try to protect people from, its fucking useless, its Tay-chatbot levels of tiresome allover again. The only way you could turn AI into useful context-level tutor if you used a document with all the phrases you want to practice and train.
>>738687382lol. Hiragana and Katakana are literally baby shit. At least get filtered by Kanji, where you have to learn 2000+ unique ones.
>>738708558we have live translators now too
I'm too old, unmotivated and cynical. If it were 2000 again and the current tech (online learning) was available, sure, I'd love to learn Japanese and enjoy my time with new games and a great internet. I don't feel like there's much to look forward to these days, though so I'll just continue to live in the past.
>>738708592true, however its only because there's not a good way to figure out how to read Kanji at least on the western internet, someone should organize an online database with different Kanji being categorized into two forms for learning purposes:>Place you encounter the Kanji in real life at/type of context.>Sound-based reading, as in, categorized by the sound the Kanji make.these two would speed up learning massively.
>>738686592If they did that it would become wokified better to gatekeep
>>738708676>Decide I'll teach myself Japanese 15 years ago>Get to Kanji>Almost immediately give up>Continue to regret never trying again to this dayNow I'm in my late 30s and feeling dumber than ever in general.
>>738708615if you are talking about live machine translations, those will never be accurate. you need the whole script before translating japanese since the most important part of the sentence comes at the end, not at the beginning. so a japanese sentence could sound 1 way 90% through the sentence, and then be completely different with the context provided at the last 10%, that fucks with LIVE machine translations. the only way i could see it being possible is if there was like a 5 minute delay in the livestream, and if ai translations become powerful enough to translate fast, they could have a buffer period where they translate the whole sentence before showing it to you
>>738708765I decided to teach myself Japanese 23 years ago. I bought some physical flash cards and started hammering kanji into my brain with RTK, and then I burned out around 500 kanji and gave up for a decade. Then I learned Japanese.If you have regret, just fix the problem, retard. It's really not that hard to wake up every morning and tell yourself "if I don't do my anki reps today, I'm a retarded faggot who wasted the past (day/week/month/year) of studying".
>>738708765runes aren't that hard. it just takes time. plenty of tricks to them. even stroke orders can be guessed easily. 98% of the time from the basic rules + patterns from the remaining 2%
>>738699192I am not as knowledgeable about Japanese, but what is your reasoning? I've seen a lot of Westerners say this about Japanese people/their culture, but from my experience, it's often English speakers that are fake and aggressive, yet I still hold Western culture in high regard.
>>738698519>>738699126If you have low IQ you think kanji is bad, if you have high IQ you wish everything was in kanji calmost like chink.If you have low IQ you think kanas are good, if you have even average IQ you quickly realize katakana specifically was a goddamn mistake and needs to be erased from the language as soon as humanly possible.
>>738708474
>>738712615damn... shes cute AND eloquent
>>738708765>feeling dumber than ever in general.lmao, you still have more than half of your life ahead of you and don't want to try again? Do you enjoy your own dumbness, your comfortable self-pity?You're already living your life, so get to it, an hour a day is better than none in the next decade.
>>738712493no. japanese is a fucking mess without kana. man'yougana was scrapped for a reason
>>738713002>Falling for literal kike propaganda.Grim.
>>738707548>how would i go about mining new vocabThe easiest way to do it so to use this program https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader
love these shit ass threads 500 posts of dunning kruger slop occassionally broken by 200iqs and nora >>738687143>>738686621>>738690305
>>738708763Just go through RTK and then a vocab deck, with an hour a day you can learn 2500 kanji and 10k words in a year with zero hiccups
>>738713420What you have to understand is shitskins are ruled not by trust and honor but by izzat, it's also the same for literal jews by the way.For a non-jew white or a japanese person, being able to do something is the point itself, this is why you see so many craftsmen and inventors from these races across history, if they do it, they do it properly, and god have mercy if they have autism for a particular something, because they will move heaven and earth to make it possible even if it's for something the rest of the planet would consider pointlessly inconsequential, and likewise failures are something not to be ashamed of because you can always learn from them and continue improving further and further in a lifelong attempt to reach perfection.It's almost the complete opposite with shitskins and jews, with them it doesn't matter if they "cheat" by literally throwing it at AI and calling it a day, they did the thing with a fraction of effort you did, therefore they are better, massive mistakes be damned, who cares about inaccuracies in slop anyway? They got their pay and got away with it, you should be kneeling to them for being so smart to cheat the system in fact. Just please ignore when infrastructure literally starts falling apart at the seams from so many corners cut and so much corruption pocketing resources meant for maintenance and building new infrastructure.It's similar with chinks and gooks by the way, but chinks have their own specific flavor of brain worms that focuses more on reputation and gooks are extra fucked because they have the worst of both chinkoid izzat and the shitskin izzat.
>>738713959grok tldr this for me
i live in japan have studied japanese for many years but recently i learned that やめろ means END FASCISCMyou learn something new every day
>>738713515>how to end up with hundreds of anki reviews every day that you will get 90% wrong
I'm genuinely incapable of learning other languages
>>738714135unless you are diagnosed with a genuine learning disability, no you arent
>>738713515rtk ignores so many useful things it's not funny>readings. completely ignores phono-semantic compounds, one of the things kanken autists prioritize>the structure of compounds. they fall into 5 categories: similar, opposites, left modifies right, left is complement or object of right, left negates right. another point kanken autists take advantage of>words. the quintessential building blocks of a language>kanji meanings. instead you get arbitrary keywords. i.e. it won't explain 状 as letter/document (e.g. 招待状, 召喚状, 書状, 令状), 状 as form (楔状, 環状, etc.), 状 used in stuff like status and situation (状態, 状況)>offers arbitrary stories instead of examining the naritachi and etymology. no diagrams or pics that aid recall like pic related either>does nothing about ateji, aka when the runes are not used for their meanings. 多分, 滅多に, 真面目, 滅茶苦茶, 矢張り, 矢鱈, 出鱈目, etc.tl;dr rtk is trash
>>738699240Absolutely not, this anon is right >>738694793You're a genuine idiot.
>>738686292I don't have a use for it and I don't want to learn 3 different writing systems.
>>738715623Of course it ignores them, they're not necessary to learn the kanji, spaced repetition is the most efficient when you're learning as few things as possible and RTK is laser focused on getting you to associate a kanji with a keyword in the most efficient way possible, everything else you can do after learning the kanji and starting to learn vocabYour complaints are equivalent to bitching about why a starter pack doesn't contain advanced material, because it's a starter pack
>>738715623nta but, i did a trimmed down/condensed version of rtk called rrtk 450 and it helped me immensely with learning new vocab, so it's not all bad. it was really fast too, completed it in like a month
>>738716180>Of course it ignores them, they're not necessary to learn the kanji,the things I mentioned aid recall. e.g. much easier to remember 水泳(suiei) if you already know 永遠(eien)>associate a kanji with a keywordyou're literally wasting months of your life to learn arbitrary keywords instead of learning to read. congratulations
>>738716985>you're literally wasting months of your life to learn arbitrary keywords instead of learning to readthe whole point of something like RTK is that some people CAN'T remember these squiggly lines and match them with a word. these people would waste way more time if they just tried brute forcing learning vocab since they don't even remember the kanji. if you were one of those people who were able to learn everything through vocab, then great for you. but there are genuinely people who could study every day for months of vocab and not remember anything because they just see kanji as weird squiggly lines, they don't retain the memory whenever they see similar looking kanji. so it would be better for them to take a couple months to do independent kanji study, then move onto vocab. as opposed to grinding vocab from the beginning just to be stuck with a 40% retention rate at 200 vocab for MONTHS
>>738713064yes anon everything is propaganda and evil and out to get you. we truly live in hitler times
>>738686292The "literal" translation is also wrong. Eop peons just can't catch a break
>>738717217I couldn't remember 檜 if I didn't think of a tree 木+会う(あう)'s old form(會). luckily it's called hinoki tree in English as well, so it's not hard
>>738718148Ok, this is what you want in your games right?>(Hey!/wait a second/exclamation of exasperation), that's a discourtesy (sentence ending particle used for conformation)>For me (particle that marks the topic of the sentence, providing contrast to something/one else) lightning magic is usable (potential form of the verb use, but notably using the object marker on "magic" when this grammar typically uses the subject marker particle instead because of potential verbs actually being intransitive, thus showing the ergative nature of Japanese)>Boey (followed by an adverb that expresses disdain), nothing but fire magic is usable, is that not so (use of the typical double negative for conformation)
>>738720009Yes, I know I wrote in conformation instead of confirmation. I am a dirty phone user. Eat my dick.
>>738718148>>738720009>>738720108This made me realize they missed the message. It's not that Lightening Magic is better than fire. It's that she can use 2 types of Magic while he can only use one.
