Holy shit, the Arwing is fucking HUGE.The proportions on Fox still look weird.
the arwings are supposed to be actually huge. they put em up in hangars like planes. also yes I do not like hyperrealistic fox. starfox assault is probably the best design.
Was it ever explained why he had 2 auxiliary seats in each wing and why there's air in space?
>>738691397have you ever stood next to a fighter jetthey are also quite big
>>738691397>the Arwing is fucking HUGE.well yeah it's like a jet plane
>>738691601True, at least it helps justify the size of this mothership for just 4 peopleWell... here is the Great Fox redesign.
>>738691397Oh yeah one more star fox thread we have always cared about this ip deeply and organically!
>>738691397>Holy shit, the Arwing is fucking HUGE.You mean they finally made it LOOK like a fighter jet which its based on
Why are they even animals? Why not use humans? You won’t even see the animals in game, only on cutscenes.
>>738691397it's big
>>738691858This but unironically.
>>738691397The scale of Arwings was fucking weird until Assault. It looked so small in Adventures.
>>738691953science fiction game.also the game used to have "lylat dub" instead of "english dub". you hear them talk like the animal instead of yapping in english.
>>738692058Big nose though
>>738691397imagine how good it will look in ryujinx 2
>>738692221>images you can hear
>>738691827The Great Fox is FUCKING PISSED!
>>738692302probably will be the first nintendo game with decent hdr
>>738691858There is only so much Star Fox.
>>738691827Too much paneling and techo details make it lose personality. I liked the rust bucket aesthetic more.
>>738692302>ryujinx 2Haha! Never ever!
I just want the 7 of them together
>>738691601>starfox assault is probably the best design.He looks ugly in assault. His teeth especially are creepy looking and shark like.
>>738692058The arwings always looked too bulky and weirdly proportioned in assault. The other games they looked and felt like things that can actually fly in the sky.
>>738692056I miss her so much
>>738695153His in-game model doesn't look bad. That's his CGI render.
>>738691858>do a barrel roll is probably the most 4chan thing ever
>>738695417His design isn't good. Not a fan of his head design and outfit.
>>738691397Have you ever seen a real fighter jet? Those things are huge.This is an F-15. It looks kind of small and cute without a size comparison. But it is fucking huge.
>>738691397I would be all over this if it wasn't for a remake
So they just place the Arwing on its own frame and wings without any kind of legs or wheels to support it on the ground?
>>738693159>I liked the rust bucket aesthetic moreIt only had that design for Adventure.
Huge
for those of you who want krystal, faye and miyu how exactly would you incorporate them into levels? Like assume we still have the same game play but instead of 3 other wingmen you have 6 of them out there with you, as are as effects on your gameplay only Slippy has done that throughout the series, falco finds different paths for you on some levels while peppy is the help option, what use in a setting like this could the three ladies provide to you in the field? ROB even has the free power up function
>>738695219>The other games they looked and felt like things that can actually fly in the skyNone of them look even remotely close to being feasibly aerodynamic. If anything, Assault's Arwing leans into the G-Diffuser being the thing actually keeping these craft in the sky.
>>738695972Swap wing mates. Each mission you choose which you want on your team and they all have different dialogue. Wingmates still recover health in between missions but they fully recover and get like a bonus or something if you voluntarily let them rest between missions.
>>738695972Primarily play as the classic 4, but maybe every other level you play as a guest character on a solo mission or something.
>>738691397I remember the ship scales were huge too in Assault, only in Adventure the proportions were wonky
>>738695153>>738695219>>738695472Settle down, Patch.
>>738692056I bet if they brought her back they wouldn't even bother bringing back her original voice actress, which makes me kinda sad. I'm not against recasting when it's appropriate, but she's obviously passionate about the character
>>738691397Yeah, you'd be surprised how big jet fighters are IRL.
>>738691397That's a pretty modest size compared to a modern jet.
>>738698969Assaults Krystal VA was better
>>738691397Go to a museum and stand next to any fighter jet from the last 50 years, theyre fucking massive
I mean it really is that simple.No new games until you eat your 64 remake.If you want your assaultsnoy sequel then PAY UP
>>738701227I vote for no star fox ever. A bad remake is worse than no game at all. Deus Ex fans have a spine to stand up against this shit. I guess you don’t.
>>738701227Make your own Star Fox.
>>738691397I feel like the G-Diffuser really bulks it up from the side view.
>>738691663because Mario works on different natural laws than Star Fox
>>738692221>adventures Arwingliterally a blunt with wings.
>>738692302reddit meme that doesn't make sense
>>738691827Great Fox is still too small. To fit all four Arwings in a row side to side, along with the Landmaster and Blue Marine, and all of the parts and tools to maintain them, along with the engines, weapon systems, shield generators, crew quarters, storage for food and drinks and clothes and other needs, it would need to be around the size of the Enterprise-D.
I purchased and completed Starfox Zero
>>738701227Yeah, people don't really understand that this is how executives and shit view these kinds of things. I've tried to tell people this same exact thought process but for other things, but no one seems to grasp how it works.
>>738691397That looks really fucking tiny for a fighter. A Russian Flanker is ~72 feet (~22 meters) long.
>>738701659I am trying to play Command and holy shit, even with a D-pad patch, its still the worst controls I have ever seen the fact that I have to suffer through this game twice to actually get a good ending is ridiculous.
>>738693159>>738701642Meanwhile, Command's Great Fox...
>>738691601>also yes I do not like hyperrealistic fox. starfox assault is probably the best design.stfu pussy
>>738695525To be fair, most vidya jets are in games where it's just jets in the sky without much in the way of concrete size comparisons aside from the occasional empty runway takeoff.
>>738701862I like to think that the Anglar Empire launched their offensive soon enough after Assault's events that they had no time to build a new Great Fox and just hastily converted a cargo hauler into a carrier. Would explain why it's as fragile as a blimp.
>>738701862>we have White Base at home
>>738701770Giving the player a shitty ending on the first playthrough by default is seriously one of the most baffling and fucked up decisions ever. You're basically telling the player "Fuck you, play it again" and thinking that they will, and not just turn the game off and never play it ever again, or just sell it. It doesn't matter how short a game is, if the player doesn't like it and considers it a slog to get through, the likelihood of them sticking around is next to zero, and that's even if they bother to beat the game in the first place. If I got an ending like that on my first playthrough, I'd never touch it again after that.
>>738691397This promo render epitomizes the apathetic feel of this remake to me. The people making this don't think it's cool and they don't give a shit. The person who designed the arwing didn't think about landing gear and the person who composited this image didn't question it and make something else. It's kidslop and they want to go home.
>>738691397Why did they fuck up their legs? I can kind of understand the photorealism graphics but why the weird anatomy changes?
>>738692221I could literally hear the ship calling me goy through the screen
>>738702142
>>738692386There is no good hdr implementation. Its broken by design.
>>738702142I think the thing I dislike the most about it is that it's not only inconsistent, but it's barely even attempting to be digitigrade. Fox's legs are just too short so he looks really stubby, and Falco's proportions feel off. He looks more like a dork with bad posture now instead of the hot-headed ace pilot that used to belong to a biker gang.
These pins are so cool.End of June can't come soon enough.
>>738695818This is probably the biggest fuck up ever for assets in a rareware game. I don't understand it. I'm not crazy about star fox adventures's art style but it was very competent. This looks deliberately retarded against everything else in the game.
>>738702142They're animals.
>>738699634It is genuinely fucked that jets irl are bigger than fucking armored cores
>>738701227>>738701682Yeah nah ask the Resident Evil fags how that's working out. Vote for remakes, receive endless remakes.
>>738702649Make-believe technology can be as big or small as it needs to be.
>>738691397>>738691827source on these images?>>738695914this looks like cropped pornsource if so>>738702068they can always explain the lack of landing gear with some anti-gravity techno mumbo. maybe the arwing isnt balancing on those blue diamond pieces and is actually hovering just above the ground.i don't mean to sound like i'm covering the multi-billion dollar company's ass, but this is star fox's formal re-introduction to normies outside the mario movie. its no surprise they want to play it safe by straight remaking 64. also regarding the realistic new aesthetic, i think they're terrified of looking anything like star fox zero which went for an HD 64 style. that, or they want star fox to follow in the metroid revival's steps and cater the series towards adults more.
>>738692056Didn't she cuck Fox and join the bad guys in Command?
>>738703121Yeah she hooks up with Panther
>>738702756They've gotten like three new RE games in 10 years
Finished Zero.Unironically enjoyed it, just a couple of major drawbacks for me.Andross and the drone.Is there brain Andross? Or is it just the Robot thing?
>>738703303I guess furries aren't into ntr, no wonder no one talks about that game.
>>738691397why'd they take away the robot legs
>>738703389How does Zero play on emulator? Are there any mods that unfuck the controls.
>>738703389Did you get there via Bolse or Area 6?Area 6 > Venom path is the canon route with Brain Andross.
>>738703121In one ending, which is the default ending you get on your first playthrough. In two endings she gets with Fox though. It's a really cheap and shitty way to encourage a player to do a second playthrough.>>738703392Unfortunately some are (especially the Spanish and Asian ones), but no one cares about Panther, so you just get lizards instead. Vast majority of it is commissioned though.
>>738702290they're real animals this time around. the problem is that this prioritizing of realism fucks up their form and ignores their center of gravity. falco and fox with their thin stubby legs look like they'd struggle to walk irl in any way like they do in your pic.my dream is that we get a sonic movie situation where they listen to feedback and delay the game so they can rework these designs into something like pic rel
>>738703389>>738703512Oh, wait. Zero. Nevermind. There's no brain fight.
Is this remake made in-house or a 3rd party? I doubt Miyamoto actually directed this.
>>738703584meant for >>738702142my brain fried and thought your post had the pic in >>738702290
>>738703584Nintendo isn't apt to listen to feedback like this, unfortunately. Doesn't help the game literally releases in a month, so despite me wishing they'd fix some of these issues (Katt's design, their weird proportions, etc.), the chances are second to none.
>>738701642Also, while we're talking about the Great Fox's size. In Brawl, It's severely small, compared to the Halberd. Kirby's canonically 8" tall, which would make the height of Halberd's main body somewhere between 28 - 32 feet tall, excluding the bridge. The Arwing, itself, is huge, compared the Halberd's Combo Cannon, and Sakurai expects us to believe the Great Fox to be smaller? My ass!
>>738703507Ran really well, except when I absolutely had to use the separate Gamepad view, dunno if it was my 5700x3D, it's probably just that it's hard to emulate, it dropped my FPS to 45ish.Don't know about mods, I powered through it, since I'm a gyro defender I actually enjoyed it for the most part.However I do agree Nintendo should've added controller configuration, whether it's button remapping or disabling gyro, but Shitendo being the way they are, they think they're always right.
>>738702649jets don't have to be that big, the f-16 at the left is pretty small (comparatively). the f-15 and f-22 there are just really, really fucking big. russkie jets are even bigger
So we're really getting a remake of a reimagining of a remake of a remaster of a remake of a reboot from a cancelled sequel. Can't Nintendo just admit they can't get that same magic in a bottle which is why they keep doing this to starfox64
>>738703392>>738703121It's not 'NTR' or 'cuck' if the bitch breaks up with you
>>738703676Outsourced
>>738703676It's Star Fox. He's been breathing down the neck of the franchise since 64 3D. I wouldn't be surprised if the critical reception towards Command is the reason why he felt the need to become a helicopter parent for the series.
>>738703507ntaits playable. dunno about mods. motion controls are pervasive in zero so unless you've got a controller with gyro and an emulator that supports it, some segments will be a slog.
>>738701227I don't fall for that shit when Capcom does it with Darkstalkers, I won't fall for it when Nintendo keeps doing it with Star Fox.
>>738691827Looks like a spider.
>>738703676Considering they keep on referencing PAL, it's most likely European.
Realizing why the controls for 64 on the Switch are so fucking weird and clunky is because they're tailored specifically for the N64 controller
>>738695972As much as I dislike Command I think it was a good idea that each pilots arwing had different stats and I think unlocking more characters ingame could unlock ships with more interesting abilities. Fox: The balanced shipFalco: Upgraded lasersKatt: Agility. You can dodge a fatal hit twice.Peppy: Barrel roll reflects shots Slippy: Slow auto repair Krystal: Telepathy. You see outlines of hidden ships. Includes ships hidden by cloaking too.Wolf: Enhanced boost (also does damage) Leon: Temporary CloakingPanther: Higher speedPigma: Increased bomb capacity Andrew: Radar JammingNeed ideas for Miyu and Fay
>>738695153Assault Fox is cute.
>>738704260It's not that weird on the 3DS version
>>738701227no pc, no buy
>>738702342Where do you get the pins?
>>738702649>>738703832F-15 is almost as big as the B-17
>>738704432that's kind of hot
>>738701862Less retarded looking than the one in 2, but significantly more bland.
>>738704554is that Xan's ship from UT99
>>738704283Miyu can have Rapid Lasers, normal strength but they're the same firing rate as in Zero.Fay can have Overshield, her Arwing is slower and less maneuverable but she can tank hits.
>>738702649The F22 is similar in size to a Gundam.
>>738704554>"General, can we have the Attack Carrier"?>"No, we have the Attack Carrier at home">the Attack Carrier at home:
>>738704381Well yeah, they're tailored to the 3DS. Nintendo for whatever reason thought it'd be a good idea to map the default controls of SF64 on the virtual console exclusively to the N64 controller, so even if you use a Pro it's still fucked up. Genuinely no idea why they would do this.
>>738702068All they had to do was copy the landing mechanisms here
>>738704009Reception for Command was so bad that like ten years after the fact, the faggot auteur who wrote it out of spite for what happened to “his series” actually basically apologized and said “command was always intended to be an alternative universe/what if and it isn’t canon”
>>738704893Imagine writing something so universally despised that you have to apologize for it and declare it non-canon. Not that it really fixes anything.
>>738705396Just go into hiding at that point lol
>>738692381>American boxart Great Fox
It's baffling this thing didn't get a Starfox, that it just skipped this generation entirely. The time the system pushes a gimmick that would organically elaborate on series conventions, basically the one gimmick in Zero that generally works very well, the motion aiming to let you move and shoot independently, and it gets zilch. At least we got a new Sin and Punishment. Speaking of moving and shooting independently, is that a thing in the remake? They describe mouse controls, but it looks like it's just replacing the analog stick, and then there's co-op where it's one sideways joycon for movement + the aiming joycon. Obviously someone doing it themselves would be holding a joycon vertically, but is that even an option?
>>738705928We got Link's Crossbow Training instead
>>738691397What the fuck? They've always been huge.
>>738705396At least he has the excuse that Star Fox makes new continuities every other game anyways
>>738706471... Does it? It's been 20 years since the last original title for the series that's progressed the story in any meaningful capacity.
>>738704783Yeah noticed this when I played. I did a quick playthrough anyways on Switch but now I've switched to the pc port and it's much better.
>>738705928What you described is all we know, plus compatibility with NSO N64 controllers.
>>738701862I fucking hate the cloud runner so much it's unreal
>>738704873This game was really pretty for something that came out in 2002, especially compared to the N64 version.
>>738706632It just feels like a really cheap and sleazy way for them to try and get people to buy the N64 controller
>>738703813Kirby isn't 8" tall in Brawl, though. He's about half of Fox's height iirc. Brawl Halberd is just huge.Sakurai really likes Kirb & co. if that wasn't obvious.
>>738706830I know.. and its $55 which is crazy
>>738707230anyone arguing measurements in Smash is a retard.Olimar is cannonically an inch tall (including the antennae). Smash does NOT follow cannon heights.Hell does Kirby even follow that old fact of Kirby being eight inches tall? I doubt it frankly.
>>738707373>>738707230Isn't smash actually just the imagination of a kid playing in his room with toys? I feel like this was established in the first game, or at least it was the implication.
>>738707461More or less.>Subspace Emissary never brought back because Sakurai didn't like people leaking the cutscenes online prior to the game's releaseI wish Japs could get over trying to control every facet of everyday life.
>>738703832>jets don't have to be that big,They do if you want stealth and payload. The F-22 and F-35 being fat fucks isnt an accident.
>>738707461The first game sure. Loosely hinted at in Melee.Not sure if it remains cannon in Brawl and after.>>738707572Leaking and data mining culture is faggot shit.Nothing is a mystery or hidden anymore.Sakurai has a point to a degree, but he shouldn't fully kill a mode over that annoyance.
>>738707687>Leaking and data mining culture is faggot shit.>Nothing is a mystery or hidden anymore.Honestly, I agree. It gets more frustrating the older I get, too. People need instant gratification. Doesn't help when people do it intentionally, either. You couldn't go on /v/ without seeing the ending of DK Bananza, and that's just a minor example.But yeah, at that point he basically admitted that the people responsible had won, and threw in the towel to the point of affecting future projects.
I think the new Katt is hot in a grungy wayI'd tap
>>738707687Yeah it seems with Ultimate these are just the actual characters now. Which is a little lame, I feel like a bit of whimsy was lost.
I think Fox and Falco could use some moderate refinements in the face, but overall I'm pretty happy about the new direction. The digitigrade legs is actually pretty awesome to me.
>>738708025See now THIS is a furry
>>738707572Good, SSE was boring and stupid as fuck. If I wanted to play Kingdom Hearts I'd play Kingdom Hearts.
>>738707687>>738707891Brawl and onward they're trophies. Remember in Sora's trailer when the light of Smash burned out everyone turned back into trophies.
>>738691397she's a big girl
>>738705928>Emulating a flightstick with Wii Motion Plus, maybe with a simple spring-loaded plastic base to dock it to, turning it into an actual ghetto flightstickGenuinely would've been so goddamn kino. I'm convinced that deliberately squandering the opportunity cursed Nintendo to rot forevermore.
>>738703045it's all ai you moron
>>738708608>>738703045The arwing image is on the Nintendo.com Star Fox page, its in the background as you scroll
>>738708778That doesn't necessarily disprove the AI accusation
>>738701659how was it? It's the only star fox game i've never played
>>738708025face needs modest work. and legs need to be bulkier.Otherwise the designs are fine to me.Always reach out to NCL when you have qualms with Nintendo.https://support-jp.nintendo.com/app/ask_opinion>>738708472Oh I'm aware they are trophies. But that doesn't mean a kid is playing with them/moving them around.>>738708608>>738708815Holy fucking seethe you snoygger.Horizon remake is using AI and proudly just as a reminder.Get your ass back under the fridge you roach.
>>738708926Anon I know you aren't really like this, let's be civil
>>738692221this is based on that year's lego x-wing
>>738708832Not him, and been years. But it's really not that fucking bad.Just aim using the gamepad 90% of the time. As the initial trailer and direct on it stated. Arwing flys well, you can hit near 180 degree shoots on each side and top and bottom.Landermaster's new gravmaster mode was cool.Walker mode I think was a tad awkward but been years.I do wish more people discussed Guard because it's a bloody fucking fantastic tower defense game.
>>738698969I like her too but she's already too old. Even Charles Martinet had to retire from being Mario.
>>738709102He didn’t though. He was forced out. I am pretty sure that old gay fucker would have bing bing wahoo’d until the day he dropped dead.
>>738704260I've always had such a hard time playing N64 on anything that isn't an N64 due to the controller differences that I bought the NSO N64 controller for the Switch NSO. I'll definitely use it for this remake too whenever I'm not doing mouse controls.As an example, old muscle memory was so bad that I could never get used to the ocarina buttons in OoT3D and MM3D.
>>738691397>the Arwing is fucking HUGEIf anything that's pretty small for what it is.Like, the Arwing is smaller than an F22, for instance.
>>738691601Nu-Fox is the only Fox since Melee and Adventures that doesn't have fucking ugly facial proportions. His face looks all smushed into one corner. Real foxes are cute and have aesthetically pleasing proportions, like Nu-Fox.
>>738709508Indeed, everything is a conspiracy theory, this is how we keep ourselves feeling important and intelligent.
>>738710060Your mario sucks, afgani or whatever your name is.
What lines are you going to miss the most? For me it's >Anything Shogun in Sector Y says>Are you gonna listen to that monkey?>Your carcass is mine>FOOOOOOOOOOOX THATS ONE OF OURS
>>738705928To be fair Wii got TWO mainline Mario games, TWO mainline Zelda games, TWO different continuities of Metroid. Not even Switch 1 got that. So there had to be a trade off somewhere.
>>738710127No one really debates that. But that doesn't mean Charles was forced out, schizo-kun.
>>738710189You're right on (3D) Mario since Bowser's Fury was not a full game, but if you're counting TP as a Wii Zelda, then the Switch 1 got three of them (BotW, ToTK and EoW) so it balances out. Both got a Prime and a main series Metroid.
>>738710127I love how every anon on this board is some game company's big wig when someone needs to vent their seething rage about something at someone.
>>738710339>Both got a Prime and a main series Metroid.And both were absolute trash.
>>738707572SSE was shit even back then, like an inferior Kirby game.
>>738711018Dread destroys Other M in every way. I have no strong feelings about Prime 3 vs Prime 4, I just find them both alright but notably inferior to the first two.
>>738691827Dang, the Great Fox look as good as it did in Assault. That is hard to do.
>>738710181>YEE HAW! YOU DID ITThis one not being in is a fucking war crime.
>>738705928What drives me nuts remembering Sin & Punishment is that Star Successor's control scheme was mostly fuckin' excellent stuff for a rail shooter. Now we're a couple generations later, the Switch 2 still doesn't have any support for an IR system again and entirely relies on gyro instead, and a relatively similar control scheme in the SF64 remake is.. mouse mode only. Like, it took seventeen fucking years for a Nintendo exclusive to do this again and it's Joycon Mouse bullshit on a game that never needed it and isn't balanced for it.
>>738691827Why does she look so angry!?
I have a theory. The game's vehicles are all numbered.First you have the Arwings:>01 - James>02 - Peppy>03 - Pigma>04 - Fox>05 - Slippy>06 - FalcoThen it goes to the Blue Marine>07And finally the Landmaster>12Where are vehicles 08-11? This game has a ton of attention to detail, so this does not seem like an oversight.We know the first digit is not a category, as the Blue Marine is literally just numbed plainly after the Arwings.I think the Star Fox team may get upgraded Arwings (Arwing II?) at some point.The Japanese website has the cutscene of Star Wolf showing up on Finchina in their usual Wolfens.But in Battle Mode, the enemy Star Wolf players are actually flying the upgraded Wolfen II ships, oddly.I do not know when or how they will get the new Arwing versions, maybe for subsequent playthroughs?We know that Nintendo has more to show with the game. Once scene suggests there could be a model viewer.So maybe we will be able to choose which version of the Arwing and Wolfen we want to use for multiplayer?
>>738702345What do you mean? The point was that peace had basically led to Star Fox having jack shit for jobs and burning through their reserves.
>>738714409Kojima came up with the idea called 'details.'
>>738714409That valley going down the arwing's nose has to serve a purpose. No idea what it could be though. But I do love how the G-Diffusers give off a fuck ton of heat so they have to open them up like they do.
>>738714409It would be cool if they were not just a bonus but were included in the story. They could have them ready for the hard mode Venom route right before the rematch with Star Wolf. No need to change anything about the level design so it would work within the apparent confines of this remake.
>>738714541Have they released the original concept art of the Arwings for the original SNES Star Fox? Most of their design conceits are funnily similar to the constraints that birthed the F-117, as both of them needed their shapes rendered on extremely primitive 3D software.
>>738714541charge shot
>>738693601>78* don't forget R.O.B. 64 piloting the Great Fox.
>>738715194>both of them needed their shapes rendered on extremely primitive 3D software.Not quite, there were also more complex designs with swept edges in contention, but ultimately Have Blue won the arguments and went to the model testing phase.
the only way we're ever gonna see Miyu, Faye and Krystal ever again is if Miyamoto is serious about Star Fox for once instead of using the series s testing ground for certain things, 64 was the testing ground for nintendo games having voice acting, it's the most dialogue heavy game on the N64, Adventures was it's' own thing before they decided to use Star Fox for it to test out yet another engine, Assault was to test interest in the series in general and to try and get in on the 2000s edgelord craze where guns, sex appeal and mild swearing were all the rage, even Sonic wasn't immune to that see shadow the hedgehog, then came command on the DS, effectively a swan song for the franchise as they didn't know where to take the series, interest was at a low and Krystal was wildly despised for her sex appeal and replacing Peppy as the fourth pilot and bringing the furries into the limelight, they straight up admitted the game was effectively concepts they at best and a cheap cash grab at worse. Star Fox died there as a continuity, ever since then Miyamoto has decided that if Star Fox is to be used they have to sell it with the only profitable game it had, 64, so they constantly use 64's story, for the 3DS, for the WiiU and now for the Switch 2 because it's the only time star fox turned a profit for them kinda like how if gold and silver flopped Pokemon would just endlessly recycle the same 150 pokemon and kanto over and over and over again only, instead they still do that AND do new pokemon too because of massive profits.This game will be ass but they're banking on 64 kanto and Fox's successful reception in the mario movie to sell this piece of shit.
>>738716170I feel the choice of remaking 64 was made in part simply to give the game a short development cycle and have it out early on in the Switch 2's life. You can tell from the visuals that it most likely isn't a game that started on Switch 1 like MKW and DKB. And yeah, they've been trying and failing to reboot the series since the past decade so this is yet another attempt.
starfox 64 was such an incredible game
what was it that made assault so hated?was it the story and how seriously it took itself?was it krystal replacing peppy and even using his arwing?was it fox being rather melocalic and pensive compared to his usual hot shot self?was it the passage of time showing just how old peppy, pepper and the star fox team in general have grown between 64 and now?was it star wolf being down to 3 members because Pigma got kicked out and Andrew tried to succeed Andross and failed and died in the first level? Was it because the ground combat, standing on wings and shooting segments were these sandbox maps with annoying enemies?Was it the OST?
>>738716749>Was it because the ground combat, standing on wings and shooting segments were these sandbox maps with annoying enemies?this plus the lack of branching paths and very little rail shooter stages.
>>738716517It truly was and is. I've only come back to it recently with the PC port, since playing it way back nonstop in middle school, and it absolutely blows my mind how great it is, especially being able to play it now with sharper graphics, a larger screen, etc.We were blessed with that recent recomp and I'm glad I got to experience both the OG and the port in my life time. I don't need other Star Fox games if they're not in the realm of 64, which is the only one I've played.
I was always flabbergasted by how they made command a game that's essentially exclusively an all range mode game, only times you aren't in all range mode are when taking down missiles and the final boss.
>>738702057You would have never survived 90s Konami games. Play any difficulty under Normal and some don't even let you finish the game, telling you to fuck off and try again
>>738710021Nothing will top the Melee designs.
>>738716875I still think 64 had the best looking Arwings and none of the other designs I've seen thus far have changed my mind. The sleek, sharp look while also relatively small in size were what made them iconic to me. I wish there was a small toy model I could buy and hold around and play with, diecast or not.
>>738717319For Fox yes but not for Falco.
>>738717485What's wrong with Falco?
>>738717580He just looks better in later smash games than in Melee.
>>738691827I trust this thing covering me in Area 6.
Part of me wishes they'd use these SF64 remakes as a chance to bring back cut content like additional underwater levels, a turret mode stage where you fire at shit from the Great Fox and an on foot stage.
Fox needs his future wife
>>738701227I will be buying 5 copies when they are back in stock. I'm very happy they sold out on Amazon, looks like it's the year of the Fox
>>738704260Yeah, I'm playing the game at the moment and I completely remapped the controls>Swapped down and up because FUCK inverted >Face buttons were remapped to resemble control scheme C for SNES Star Fox>Y shoots, A bombs, B brakes and X boosts Makes the menus a bit jank but the actual game plays a billion times better.
>>738717838>additional underwater levels, a turret mode stage where you fire at shit from the Great Fox and an on foot stage.Fuck off, non-Arwing segments are shit. The Landmaster gets a pass for having two good levels and (mostly) controlling the same. Aquas is boring and we don't need more chicken walker style bullshit.I am in favor of more stages. If they were hiding a sort of hidden "second game" you unlock by completing every map + Hard Venom that would be kino.
>>738708832It's kinda good, but the forced gyro with the gamepad for aiming has a pretty annoying learning curve. The on-screen reticle is kinda off so when you aim at stuff, you'll miss, unless you look at the gamepad so you have to glance between the gamepad and tv all the time. Unfortunately, it doesn't really work that well. Aside from that SFZero is a pretty well made game that sold extremely poorly because it was released only on Wii U and right at the tail end of the console's lifespan where nobody cared about it any more.
>>738710181>I CAN’T BELIEVE I LOST TO THIS SCUM!
>>738703905Tell that to the chud complaining about Saros.
>>738710181I'm going to need the hammiest>I CAN'T STOP IIIIIIIIIIIIIT!to stay.
>>738707606Fat Amy is slightly smaller than the Viper>>738715194Have Blue and by extension F-117 were polygonal because they were chasing the Hopeless Diamond shape which was the theoretically maximum frontal aspect stealth shape.
>>738691827>GREAT FOX WILL COVER YOU
>>738693601They should just remake Starfox 2 after this.
>>738719456It's called Command
>>738703571>It's really cheap and shitty for the choose your own adventure game to show you that the path of least resistance will lead to utter failure in all things.I don't understand you kids.
>>738691827Gah, they over-greebled it. Same with the Arwing, really. They should be textured in the same style as their Smash Bros Melee appearances, just HD'd up and all that.
>>738719562I don't recall the routes in Command following any particular logic that will let you foresee where the story will go. Krystal deciding to cuck Fox last minute in the default route didn't seem to be an inevitability for instance. In fact I would say part of the charm of the game is witnessing whatever wacky thing will happen next.
>>738708832It's okay. The gimmick is simultaneously neat and annoying, should have been able to opt in or out. Some of the stages are fun and others are just really boring. Having Corneria be one of the weakest levels probably gave people a real sour impression.
>>738719758You can never have enough greebles.
>>738719786>Fox acts like an absolute turd and just does whatever his first impulse is, down to letting Oikonny, of all people, bait him into a fight.>Fox broke up the team in the first place out of prudence and fear for Krystal's safety despite her own desires, but he's cool risking himself to smack fucking OIKONNY around.>The empath, noticing her shithead boyfriend hasn't changed at all, deciding to leave him is KEKOLDRY and TOTALLY RANDOMYou're failing to follow a children's video game, dude.
>>738720326She'll leave Fox for Oikonny himself in this timeline.
>>738701682Option 3: get 1 million people to buy 10 shares of the company and then gape the execs.>that doesn't workEngine no. 1 did it to exxon mobil.
>>738720416Beta bucks wins in the end, they'll enjoy chilling with Andross's emmpire money
>>738720416The swagger of a man who browses r/feetpics
>>738720416>Are you gonna listen to that MONKEY?
>>738691953>why not make generic npc goycattle media #9638185?
>>738710181>sorry to jet but I'm in a hurryI will miss the smug as fuck delivery
>>738691827>Great Fox is fucking pis-->>738692381>>738705587lmao. so glad someone beat me to it
>>738721816>Getting a new game they said>it'll be like old times they said>WHEN THEY SAID "LIKE OLD TIMES" I DIDN'T EXPECT THIS! AAAAAAA!
>>738707868Really? Id double tap that.
>>738695659looks kind of stupid, doesn't it?I don't think SNES Star Fox ever showed parked Arwings.SNES Star Fox 2 introduced the chicken walker thing which is obviously pure fantasy.Star Fox 64 showed the Arwings in a hangar on some sort of suspended launch rail thing. I don't think Arwings were ever depicted grounded in that game, either.Starting with Adventures, the Arwing was depicted as VTOL capable, basically like an X-Wing. it had some shock absorbers underneath the cockpit and a piece of landing gear that deployed from underneath the nose, also very similar to an X-Wing. it might be present in the 2026 design but we can't see the nose in the OP pic.
>>738720326Or, you know, Command is just badly written.
>>738704873of course I would make a post about Adventures' Arwing having a landing gear and VTOL without reading the thread and seeing that someone posted a webm of it... I love /v/ lol
>>738691397have you seen how big fighter jets are irl? If anything that would be small for a star fighter
>>738717897The day that Fox and Krystal are allowed to get hitched again in the modern era of video games and Nintendo is the day when balance will be returned to the Force
>>738714409>Pigma built his teammates' Arwings before his ownHe was a true bro; they must have done something bad for him to betray them.
>>738706443they were definitely smaller in the n64 version but you could argue that the scale in that game is non-literal early 3d graphics.also I'm pretty sure when Fox stands next to the Arwing in Adventures his head comes up past the nose so it's a lot smaller there, too.
>>738714409>08 ¿Katt Airwing?>09 Fay Airwing>10 Miyu Airwing>11 ???Maybe they'll give Peppy or Slippy their own Lanmaster tank.
>>738691397haha look at his lil legs
>>738722823Nah, he's just a PIGGER
>>738717897Marina from Splatoon gives me hope that they'll keep designs as sexy as that one.
>>738722451People say this, but never give good reasons. At worst I'd say some of the dialogue is weird and annoying.
>>738723182Kursed
>>738710181my evaluation of the remake hinges mostly on how they handle>Nothing... Nothing's wrong.
>>738716517it's really warmed my heart to see how much /v/ and others online love sf64 the last few days. it's a very special game.
>>738723217Kursed ending isn't so bad when you consider:>it's just an intentionally bad ending punishing players for making the wrong choice and not have krystal go back to fox>"kursed" itself is a giant mistranslation, in the jp script she renamed herself to "krazoa", a reference to sf adventures and thus not nearly as edgy
>>738723217>Localization name changeIt's Krazoa in Japanese.It's a goofy idea, but it follows through with the rest of the game. Krystal's arc in Command is that she cares about Fox, but her ability to read minds is ironically making her cold because she's sensitive to hypocrisy. She wants to be with him, but he pushed her away and, in a few routes, is just being a selfish little cunt of a man. She's trying to define herself in spite of her situation. The Kursed ending is just showing that pushing Fox away entirely is just going to cause her more pain and eventually doubling down will lead to her shutting everyone out and becoming miserable.
>>738717979>Aquas is boringrespectfully disagree>>738717838I think there was a concept for the final boss of Area 6 being fought high in the atmosphere and falling to the surface of the planet when defeated, I'd love to see a modern game engine take a crack at depicting that. could be pretty kino
>>738723247If the ending fails to make me tear up the remake is shit. The line you quoted and James saying "You've become so strong, Fox" just before you exit the tunnel gets me every dame time.
>>738723737I think it would have been neat if James and his men flew prototype Arwings that took on this shape.
>>738701227If slurping up 64 slop from the trough is the only way to get more Star Fox, then I don't want any more Star Fox. This is a fraud ass franchise that is better off dead.
>>738723606>I think there was a concept for the final boss of Area 6 being fought high in the atmosphere and falling to the surface of the planet when defeated, I'd love to see a modern game engine take a crack at depicting that. could be pretty kinoi remember watching this, jump to 5:50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ7baJdOI8Q
>>738723182Dash doesn't get enough screen time.Amanda is too shallow and "girl slippy" for what they were trying to do with her.Lucy is a nothing character.There's too many meme endings and some of them aren't clear enough for people to understand they're meant as bad ends. Most of the endings give too little info even for the broad, interpretive nature.
>>738723423>"kursed" itself is a giant mistranslation, in the jp script she renamed herself to "krazoa", a reference to sf adventures and thus not nearly as edgyHow the fuck does this happen when StarFox Adventures was just 5ish years before and was a fully-voiced acted, in English, game written by native English speakers? Someone asleep at the wheel there?
>>738723217how is that bad writing? Krystal IS retarded
>>738723540Are her telepath powers actually ever mentioned in command, I forgot.
>>738714409The Blue Marine was made out of Arwing parts the Landmaster was not. It may be an unrelated numbering system.
>>738724693Command was written by idiots.
>>738691397>The proportions on Fox still look weird.
>>738724693they didn't give a fuck about it, that's all
>>738724693Treehouse massacred a couple games from ~2002 to 2012.>>738724825>The writing is bad because the translation sucksWhat
>>738725243Rocket isn't the size of an actual man. Fox's feet are too small to support his stance.
>>738692000>Pusses out on using nuclear warheads on smart bombsgeg what a bitch, no wonder Andross fucked off from these Cornerian faggots
>>738702270Anything is better than AutoHDR shit or whatever the fuck Kirby Air Riders did.
>>738714409
>>738691397He looks so fucking tiny, I hate it.
>>738691397Does someone at Nintendo hate women? There has only been one woman in a Star Fox game in the last 20 years, and in Star Fox 26 they gave her a hideous glow-down.
>>738701227No star fox ever if they're going to keep recycling.
>>738727461We still don't know what studio was responsible for this, but Katt reeks of westoid treatment. No Japanese designer would make her look like that on purpose.
>>738727589I'm also going to be checking the credits for the writing staff. the fact that the lip flaps are synced to English even in the Japanese version of the game makes me mighty suspicious
>>738727589The whole project stinks of being outsourced to a Western mercenary developer, and some blue haired cunt named Lilith probably oversaw the design changes to Katt.
>>738691397>A-wing from star wars is so cool let's just make a game based on that>copyright? change it to Arwing>give it 3 polygons
>>738692056Why did the AI put the tail the left asscheek
>>738727461>forgetting krystal
>>738727589>>738727683>>738727748>Crying about "western influence" in Star Fox.>The series where more than half the games were developed by Westerners.
>>738727934>A-wing from star wars is so coolSomebody post it
>>738728743And all the western games were shit
>>738728298Krystal has not been in a Star Fox game in 20 years. Star Fox Command is over 20 years old. That is how badly Nintendo has fucked this franchise, the only unique entry in the last 20 years was an official release of a canceled SNES game from 35 years ago.
>>738728743>>738729242You shut your whore mouth, the original Star Fox was a groundbreaking achievement.
>>738729296She was in Smash, at leastBut yeah, realizing Command is 20 fucking years old was not something I wanted to accept
>>738729603It wouldn't be so bad if Nintendo had actually kept putting out games instead of leaving Star Fox to die on the vine during the Wii era. There should be like 15 Star Fox games at this point but Nintendo treats ever single one like it has to get 64's sales or the franchise goes on hiatus. The highest selling Star Fox game since 64 is still Adventures which means the "keep remaking 64" strategy isn't even working.
>>738691397I hate the redesigns so fucking much
>>738729242>Star Fox 1, 2, and 64 3D are badNah
>>738691397he worst fucking arwing design I wish you could unlock updated version of the original on snes that was peak Craft
>>738723737This was the best arwing to be honest
>>738729797Pretty much. I'm probably repeating myself ITT, but I genuinely believe that the critical reception towards Command is likely the reason why Miyamoto has been incredibly hands-on to the point of seeming like an overbearing parent on the series, and in doing so, he's just hindering progress on the series. I really don't think it would even be that big of a deal to people if they brought back all of these characters in a new game without trying so hard to properly introduce them to people. But we're at a point currently with media in general where you need origin stories or people don't seem to care about new characters, or they feel lost.
>>738730484>but I genuinely believeSo nothing concrete just speculation
>>738730586What the fuck isn't speculation on /v/ you sperg
>>738730743You did some whole jewish schpiel on absolutely nothing factual
>>738730484The critical reception to Command was extremely positive. It just sold poorly.
>>738730831No it wasn't you fucking liar. Everyone shits on its melodramatic story.
>>738731031Remove extremely because I misremembered, lmao.But yes, it was received positively. Better than Zero and Assault, if nothing else.
>>738728743there was only one good star fox game pal
>>738726935>disassemble the Arwing wrong>The G-Diffuser just fucking kills youNo wonder the top brass of the Conerian military turned these things down.
>>738716749>Was it the OST?Definitely not, Assault's OST is awesome.
>>738722451The Goodbye Fox ending is legitimately a fantastic ending to the series and IIRC, is the only route where you assemble the boys together one last time
>>738716749Assault is right up there with 64 for me. Adventures and Command suck ass though.
>>738731516The Goodbye Fox ending is the only one with Peppy back, but it's treated as a surrender to old comforts and not solving anything. You only get it if Fox acts selfishly with Krystal but looks out for Peppy. It's the ending where his treatment of Krystal is made parallel to Peppy's treatment of Lucy, where the Girls ending acknowledges there's a rift that needs mending through honest discussion for both pairs. Instead of actually dealing with the issue, Fox gives up his responsibilities to have Krystal be his housewife, LARPing as James when he's unwilling to make hard choices like his dad did. His and his friends' children are locked in the cycle and have to clean up his mess.It's a Bad End and it's crazy to me that people don't see it.
>>738731031Even ignoring the story the game itself was terrible
>>738691397the arwing looks so nortubel tier
>>738732516You sound like a cuck. I am sure you prefer the endings where Krystal runs off with panther and Fox dies alone and broken.
>>738731031I love that the controls are so fucking awful that even with the D-Pad control mod, it still requires a shit ton of touch controls and they’re still finicky as fuck. I ended up dying several times to motherships because it just wouldn’t acknowledge the roll.Also the shared time limit between missions is awful too. At least you can kill yourself to get more time.
>>738732687>No thoughts, just "KEK KEK KEK"There's two other endings where they get back together without Fox acting like a complete loser and ditching his bros.
>>738732803You playing on original hardware or an emulator? V4 works well on my DSi, I only need touch for the bombs.
>>738695153his uniform is way cooler though
>>738732939I am using a 3DSCan you give me a link?Whats the roll command? The version I have uses both shoulders as fire along with X (iirc) and has break on B and Accelerate on A. Arwing movement on the D-Pad. Everything else is touch.
>>738731279A lot of things can just fucking kill you if you disassemble them incorrectly. This isn't a sci-fi concept.
>>738733102Huh. That sounds like V4. Might be V3 or it behaving weirdly on 3DS since the screen doesn't map 1:1? I know it's a little finnicky on Melon, and both vanilla and modded hit "dead" spots on my DSiXL sometimes from the upscaled screen. But the normal places for grabbing this kinda thing should have V4 by default.
>>738731420OST had good sounding orchestra but the composition was worse. I prefer how the music sounded in 64 since the temp are usually higher and feels more like gameplay music.
I hate how outrageously huge military vehicles are.
>>738729603>picYou know what's always bothered me? Krystal never uses her staff after Adventures. It's a pretty useful device, and she seemed to have sentimental attachment to it, so it's weird how it just disappears.
>>738734539Why? If they could be compact they would be
>>738734817>billions upon billions of tax payer dollars>can't even be arsed to make the fucking things a more reasonable size
>>738735543They are a 'reasonable' size already. Look up what's in them and how much smaller every component has gotten over the past 50 years. Plus these things have to carry ordnance and fuel which is also large or takes up a lot of space (700+ rounds for an auto cannon in a plane or ~50 120mm shells in a tank + 4 dudes)
>>738734652Because the people writing the following SF games didn't bother giving her any character other than "the girl". Blows my mind because even just the one paragraph of background from Adventures gives you a couple of points to jump from.>Last survivor of a destroyed culture from outside of the Lylat system, confirming other inhabited systems exist>Andross probably had something to do with it, likely before the events of previous SF games>btw magic powers are real in the SF settingShe also gets hers staff back and immediately starts blasting, which I respect.
>>738734539Bigger planes = bigger payloads It’s not like a video game where you can pick up ammo as you fly. Nothing burns money faster than an empty bird in the air.
>>738735543>why isn't real life like my marvel movies?!
>>738695153whoever made this model has never seen a canine's teeth, why the fuck does he have shark teeth?
>>738735897Right? She actually has a lot going for her, but they can't think of anything to do with her besides trite relationship drama. You could easily makes a whole game out of the survivors of Cerenia showing up one day. >She also gets hers staff back and immediately starts blasting, which I respect.In hindsight, it makes perfect sense she was down to join a mercenary group.
>>738735897The problem is that even with as little focus as she got, the series was turning into The Krystal Report. It's really hard to balance depth with intentionally simple characters and short story segments.
Star Fox should have ended with a game where the gang finds Krystal’s people, stop Star Wolf from raiding their holy temples for magic gems, and Fox leaves the team to go be Krystal’s husband as she assumes the role of Queen of the blue vixen aliens.Basically, they should have done Atlantis, but where Milo isn’t a bitch.
>>738737364Yeah, Command has a good grasp on the characters (aside from Leon and Panther for some reason), it just gets shit because people misunderstood what the endings were saying.
>>738703389>star fox 64 pepper pays you 64 sp$ per unit destroyed>in star fox zero it's 640 sp$ per unit>the just added a zeroBravo kojima, i kneel.
>>738728743>westStar FoxStar Fox 2Star Fox Adventures>eastStar Fox 64Star Fox AssaultStar Fox Zerohere's where it gets weirdStar Fox Command and Star Fox 3D were made by Q-games, a studio started by Dylan Cuthbert, he's a westerner, but his studio is based in Japan and is staffed by Japanese people. Command was written in Japanese first and was localized into English later. I can see why you would consider them western, but to me I see them as Japanese, because I don't know if Cuthbert's influence is enough to classify them as western games.
>>738737672>to be honest, you need to have a high IQ to understand cuck endings where you are abandoned by your girl and your friends and are described as being a pathetic loser
>>738724693Command's gameplay sucked ass and the team probably treated it like shovelware it was.
What's going on with the paw prints on James's Arwing?At first glance I thought it was supposed to be James's hand print next to child Fox's hand print, which would be really cute. But they actually look like two different species.If you look it up, the smaller one is a stereotypical fox paw print. The bigger print looks more like it could belong to a lion or a dog.
>>738738745Its Panther’s, he fucked James’s ass too
>>738738540Youre both retarded. Command forced you to get the shit endings as a lazy way to motivate the player to get the true ending. You know how 64 was naturally infinitely replayable by being fun and short? Yeah. Command just sucks.
>>738704020>>738703831How do you account for the gamepad view on emulator and how often is it necessary/optimal to use it?
>>738738848>falco, the egocentric team maverick who abandoned the team several times is the only one who stuck with it and assumed Peppy’s role as mentor to the next generation
>>738739071Unable to get sex from Fox who settled down with Krystal, the heinous Falco settled for grooming Marcus.
>>738691397A large part of that is due to the G-Diffusion systems (the blue parts), which manipulates gravity and inertia, as well as a major power source for the Shield system.
>>738691663Who pumps the Batmobiles tires and why does the crab sing in Disney's Little Mermaid?
>>738739178>gay furries stop daydreaming about molesting children and/or animals for five seconds challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
>>738739317Stop samefagging
>>738691397That's like the size of a pickup truck, not remotely large.
>>738738848While this became a moot point since they rebooted the franchise afterwards, they initially said ending #3 i.e. the one you were forced to get on the first playthrough was the canon one. Unsurprisingly it's the one that reunited the standard Star Fox team at the end with the only notable shake-up being Krystal joining Star Wolf.
>>738738442If we're talking "westoid influence," it doesn't get more influential than the director of the project.
>>738739510$800 car payment tards wish their pavement princess was that big
>>738738540>No retortConcession accepted, cuck.
>>738726935Is that a reference to the Super FX chip that the SNES Star Fox uses?
>>738739220>Who pumps the Batmobiles tiresAlfred
>>738739521They never said it was canon, they called it default, which it was. Technically fighting robo andross in 64 is also likely as a default ending because if you don’t do extra objectives, you’ll end up there.
>>738738745starwolf was his sub before starwolf became older and was the dom for starfox
I keep liking the designs more as the shock wears off.
>>738739626Does a bear shit in the woods?
>>738738848>Having a CYOA is lazy because. It just is!I don't get you spergs. You can immediately get whichever ending you want after the first run, which is the easiest set of stages.
>>738691663Kid, it ain't that kinda movie
>>738699634Heres an F-15 overlaid on a WW2 B-17
>>738726935SOVL
>>738727589>but Katt reeks of westoid treatmentreally should stop using that antiwhite slur anon
>>738740656bloatmaxxed american military industrial complex exists for one purpose: to spend as much money as possible to maximize the kickbacks between circle jerking top brass and industrialists
>>738718087SARRRRROS cope fag
>>738741505To be fair, making the F-15 a fat fuck future-proofed it in a way the other teen-series fighters never managed. More versatile than the F-22, more capable than the F-16.
i'm surprised how sleek modern fighters look, they look like they are straight out of an anime or game
>>738727589>but Katt reeks of westoid treatment
>>738714409deepest lorecould 8 be Zanzibart...?
>>738743803a zanzibarwing
>>738743882Nintendo games truly are the most deepest and powerful. Starfox 64 remake should cost at least $100 and paying less is stealing from Nintendo I hope they release a DLC package for $100 that includes no content, just as a thank you. Maybe we should make another thank you nintendo from /v/ collage to show them how much we true fans appreciate buying the same again for the 5th time
>>738714409Bandai, make a model of this Arwing and my soul is yours.
>>738738848What kind of stupid name is Marcus? It's up there with Sasha (male)
>>738743993>Origin of name is disciple / devotee of Mars, the War God>Given name of the only emperors Rome ever had that was actually good as his jobBut sure, it's a dumb name because it doesn't have the unga bunga onomatopoeia of a name like Chuck or Dick
>>738739930Pretending command was bad because it was a cyoa is some leftist levels of internalized dishonesty
>>738744289I was thinking Bill would've been a better choice.
>>738708954nta, but AI accusations are just unreliable in general unless people can point to very obvious artefacting or hallucinations. The reality is people aren't as good at knowing when something is or isn't AI as they think. And, no, I don't say that to shill AI, it's just an unfortunate fact about human capability - we don't have an in-built AI radar.
>>738732803https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq86bVrMojQ
>>738738848I thought this was a good cap off the series... Conceptually. If Command had good gameplay.
>>738732803>Also the shared time limit between missions is awful tooabsolutelya couple years ago i pirated my ds and replayed the game with infinite time (not infinite turns, mind you), and it is so much of an improvement, i don't know what they were thinking
>>738701862Looks like it came straight out of Silpheed.
>>738714470I mean it looks retarded because I said it looks retardedIt could look decrepit for the story but the greatfox needs to look cool because its the greatfox
Star Fox is so fucking cool
>>738707572I think it's something to do with protecting the product and the brand, when the motivation should ideally be to make kino for kino's sake. With cohesive interaction between narrative and gameplay, you make something that needs to be experienced to get the full effect. If Sakurai didn't want people leaking cutscenes, he should make them less important and not missing entirely. Like I'm not experiencing the microwave hallway from MGS4 unless I'm hurting my thumb. Kind of an egregious example, but you know what I mean Gamer™.
>>738719562Dude stop, the ending in which Fox and Krystal have their little son, the only ending people latch onto due shipper fever is gotten by NOT interacting with Krystal as much as possible in a second playthrough, it's utter nonsense.There's no defending Command's choices and its mechanics.
>>738744863Correct.
I like the revamped look so much that I am actually thinking of buying Switch 2. What other interesting games does it have?
>>738739680It's probably some WayneTech bullshit but now I'm laughing imagining Bruce forcing his geriatric butler to pump them all by hand and check that they're all even.
>>738691663Yeah, him keeping the cockpit open confused me too, even if there is an atmosphere where he's operating, wouldn't that massively limit the maneuvers he can take?
>>738745280>ignore woman>she comes crawling back>has your baby and abandons any silly notions of being a mercenarykinda based actually
>>738717580Looks more like a parrot.
>>738745765Apparently he's actually a pheasant
>>738745457Bananza which is a donkey kong game for braindead toddler and mario kart world which is... fine but worse than 8.
>>738745890Huh, that tracks.
>>738739510>>738739581>FUCK YOU, CORNERIA!
>>738738848Would you guys play a game starring Fox's son and this team?
>>738739852It's called Stockholm syndrome.
>>738746580Yeah, that actually sounds interesting, especially old man Falco.
>>738717485>>738717640You're right. He looks kinda weird in Melee.
>>738745457do you have a switch 1? if yes,air ridersthat orbitals game that is exclusivepokopiasplatoon raiders
>>738746580Maybe, if it wasn't cringe as fuck. Cowboy frog looks fun, Old Man Falco also has potential to be amusing.Unfortunately, "story about the kids of the previous cast" has never NOT been dogshit. It's not possible for it to be good.
>>738746403
>>738747135>Unfortunately, "story about the kids of the previous cast" has never NOT been dogshit. It's not possible for it to be good.Yeah, even if the kids are written decently there will always be unfair and unfavorable comparisons to the parents just because of nostalgia. Might as well just make a story about an entirely unrelated set of characters at that point.
>>738746580>starfox 64 but it's fox's son and his teamsure why not, make them fight dash instead of andross
>>738747135That's why you skip a generation like Jojo. Do Fox's grandkids, show the long term consequences of 64, make them wildly different instead of playing it safe. Could still include old man Falco if he's cool and the team dynamic fits around him. I imagine his persona wouldn't be that different. Gives me Getter Robo vibes though, with how Jin became the new professor after being a pilot for so long.
looking back, it's weird we couldn't play as team wolf in the N64 multiplayer
>>738747529They probably didn't bother modeling them
>>738747706oh for the on foot mode, you're probably right.
>>738691953Back in 1993 animals were seriously a big deal. The muppets were like the king of children's entertainment. I know alot of zoomers don't know that but the muppets were the thing everyone watched.StarFox was originally half American staff half Japanese and their video documentaries on youtube going into the muppet stuff from said StarFox SNES american dev.
>>738747982Someone watched too much star wars when designing the adventure version. That long main body is just the X Wing.
Reminder that the game sold out for a bit on Amazon.Star Fox is coming back.
>>738748384I don't know if it's a good indication but it sold out on Meccha, too
>>738747982The SNES Arwings unironically have the best design, followed by Adventures. Everything else looks too tall and/or stumpy, more like toy planes than actual starfighters. The Adventures one is kind of generic but at least it has a cool silhouette.
>>738748105>>738748495Adventures Arwing is also meant to look like a junker, so Fox may have fixed it up himself, or at least found the parts to do so
>>7387392201) Fuck you, you disingenuous little bitch. It is not wrong to want to know particulars of a setting. 2) Fuck Morrison for that strawman bullsht when he's one of the most obsessive freak as DC fans on the planet. >>738739680>>738745517You're both wrong. It's Harold. And on that subject, it annoys me to no end that the Star Fox team doesn't have a support crew. This 64 remake is unintentionally hilarious because they want to go for "realism", but we're still expected to believe for even a second that all this shit is maintained by just these five people? Bullshit. Extremely not how that works.
>>738748493>it sold out on Meccha, tooWait really? That is awesome if true. Have a screenshot or source for that by chance? Or was it just something you had heard?
>>73874798264 still my fav don't @ me
>>738701642I think it's too big, if you look at the size of the Arwing hangar, and think what is the rest of the space used for.
>>738747982Ranking from best to worst:>Starlink>Assault>Command>2026>SF2>SF1>Zero>643D>64>AdventuresYou should have put the Arwing II that Fox uses in Command instead of the older Assault-based one.
>>738748764https://meccha-japan.com/en/nintendo-switch-games/180325-game-star-fox-nintendo-switch-2.html
>>738748384Star Fox fans deserve slop. All of you can go straight to hell.
>>738749163>How dare you buy one of three new games in 16 yearsShould have bought Zero
Great dad you have, Fox
>>738749163If we support this game, they might do something new in a year or two. They might even remake, Star Fox 2!
>>738748894There is no way in hell you actually believe anything you just said
>>738749347>T&B-H9Tits and booty?
>>738749163Or in other words, yiff in hell furfags?
>>738749415He meant the Arwing designs, not the games.
>>738749457I'm aware.
>>738745457I loved DK Bananza, personally, but it is easy outside of a few post-game challenges. I'd recommend it if your enjoyment of a game doesn't hinge on difficulty.
>>738749347Better leave your son in debt with a cool mothership than leave your son with gambling debts, or worse drug dealing debts.
>>738748672I wonder if they could have fit Miyu/Faye somewhere as maintenance mechanics or something. But they are too afraid of such status quo changes
>>738749683Star Fox are a mercenary team, so is Star Wolf, implying the existence of more such organizations. They could be brought in as a friendly rival merc team.
>>738714409remember, starfox 2 predates starfox64 and was canceled at the last moment not to compete with 64fay and miru add 2 more
>>738749759>Nintendo create a Gamer Girl team of Fay, Miyu, Katt, Krystal
>>738722957it's a game, who tf cares about such autistic consistency, the main point is to have fun
>>738749936>it's a game, who tf cares about such autistic consistencyWE do motherfucker
>>738749320>>738749396>NOOOOOOO, we HAVE to buy the slop or else we won't get any more slop!You "people" have no standards. Fucking pathetic.
>>738749936Where do you think you are right now?
>>738750093Neither do you given that you're a BR Hue that pirates every game
>>738750031Who's WE? How many voices reside in your head?
>>738749849>not to compete with 64Brother the N64 was out so releasing an SNES game made no sense SF64 or no
>>738750140About 6 or 7
>>738708832Perhaps this was because my last SF experience beforehand was Assault, but it surprised me how unafraid Zero was to kick the player in the balls with its time limits and resource scarcity if the player didn't learn to git good with the controls. And those controls indeed have a learning curve that was difficult to adjust to at first, but acceptable once you get into the swing of things; still wouldn't chose them over 64s, having to constantly swap screen focus gets old over the course of a playthrough.The helicopter sections plain sucked though, especially when leg mode already gave you a means to slow down the pacing. I think it should be carried over into future games.
>>738749859>starfox team>starwolf team>starkrystal team>starcaotix teamwonderful
Can it run?
>>738750134Even if I did pirate games, I wouldn't even pirate this. Under no circumstance am I tolerating yet another Lylat Wars rehash. Either make something new, or fuck off. Simple as.
>Fox, stop destroying their supply routes and pushing back against their main invasion force>what you need to do is search for a giant clam right nowyea no wonder this nigga was losing the war
>>738750236It's almost sad that Nintendo (or rather Miyamoto) refuses to re-release Zero with regular controls.
>>738691827Looks great, can't wait to see the Wolfen
>>738691397Not really
>>738750345Killing the clam is on the "brutally mog andross and win the war single-handedly" route however
>>738750345>you beat andross' army in sector y and saved an entire wing of cornerian fighters in katina?>nah, you're on your own storming venom, we can't spare a single soul
>>738748105>>738748495Star Fox as a team are literally broke because the system is at peace. It's not inspiration from whatever, they literally can't find work to have their planes worked on, yes, planes IRL need constant weekly maintenance too. Planes like the F-22 raptors need work done on them every four days. This is why Slippy became the mechanic.
>>738750345>Hire a mercenary group to win you a war>Foot them the bill
>>738750375Would had been a good strat to re-release Zero so it got a wider audience and reintroduced people to the mechanics and then use the resources for the current remake on a sequel.
>>738750489?At the end of SF64 you hand Pepper an invoice for services rendered.
>>738750487Now explain how a plane not getting proper maintenance turns it jewish by elongating the nose
>>738701227What level of irony do you have to operate on to come up with "assaultsnoy"?
>>738750309Absolutely not. This was the dumbest shit ever.
>>738701227Okay.I want the star fox franchise, not the star fox 64 franchise.So if they want the star fox 64 franchise, I don't want to support it.
>>738750487>Star Fox as a team are literally broke because the system is at peace.I refuse this. It's an entire solar system, and you're seriously trying to tell me that there's NO military conflict going on at any given time? Bullshit.
It seems like Imamura was the one who pushed to make a continuing Star Fox storyline and now that he's gone, would anyone at Nintendo care enough to make a new one, even if this does super well?
>>738750309Mechs are so fucking retarded. Shit like this does not help.
>>738750340Your opinion matters less than a pirate's, furfag.
>>738750487How is this related to rating how the various Arwing designs look?
>>738750672My thing is that Star Fox was so integral at saving Corneria they should have been included in the Cornerian defense budget and put on long term contract.
>>738750672Even if they just grafted on a whole 'nother setting to the setting, Assault does a good job showing that a single planet can sustain a campaign all on its own. It only even became a high-stakes solar affair at the very end when Andross showed up.
>>738750684He kinda killed it with Command's multiple endings; the only option now was to recreate Starfox ether as a 64 remake or a retelling like with Zero.
>>738750672There are a few inhabited planets>Corneria>Corneria base 1>Corneria base 2>Destroyed and Corneria occupied factory planet>Devastated and Corneria occupied Vacation planet>Destroyed and buck broken Venom >Peppy's home planet not featured into the games only mentioned in a game manual presumed Coreneria aligned Who is fighting who there
>>738750684Well, Miyamoto personally has it out for the concept of story in video games, so I guess we'll see if the rumors of an Adventures-styled game come to fruition. The sad part is there's a lot you can do with the setting, but they've been remaking the same game for a decade and a half now.>>738750824Command was meant to be alt universe/timeline shit anyway, you can easily pick it back up if you gave it to a writer that genuinely cared.
>>738701227>even having a wallet Call me when it's been emulated or decompiled, paypiggy
>>738750672StarFox are really not Mercs, that's some new thing from the most recent remake. Star Wolf are the mercs. Star Fox was originally called "a team for hire" for the Cornerian Military. Being an actual merc breaches multiple laws to the point you need an active hideout on the edge of Lylat.
>>738750813>>738750827There's also Star Fox Guard which is about a corporate dispute over mining rights, even if it was a meh tower defense game.Plenty room of gradients of conflict between that and "Andross wants to blow up Corneria again."
>>738745890An Edwards's Pheasant, yes.
>>738750789general pepper literally asked starfox to join the cornerian army in the ending of 64, and starfox refused because they "prefer to do things our own way"
>>738750813You mean Adventures, but your point stands. Multiple inhabited planets means mercs are NEVER under any circumstances hard up for work. If there are people, there's someone who will hire you to shoot something. >>738750789Y'know what? Good point. How are these fuckers not on retainer? Samus is with the Galactic Federation. Maybe Fox is just a shit businessman.
>>738701227>>738701682I voted for more THPS with my wallet back when 1+2 came out and all it got me was another even shittier low-effort remake
>>738750992Correct, they take contracts, not orders. There is a difference between being on a long term contract and being conscripted into a military force.
>>738750976Petty corporate disputes are probably not enough to sustain a carrier and state-of-the-art fighters though
>>738701227It's pretty clear that next to every new Star Fox game is just going to be a Star Fox remake. Konami did it like 5 times with Castlevania throughout the late 80s and 90s so it's not anything new.
>>738749347>Solar System lightspeed travelI meen, inside the asteroid belt, it'd take a couple minutes.
>>738750976>even if it was a meh tower defense gameMeh? As far as tower defence games goes it's actually pretty great, if perhaps a bit limited in content. Like it won't hold your attention for too long, but what it has is of rather good quality.
>>738750963what does that have to do with not finding work tho?
>>738750963Nope. Nuh uh. We're not doing this bullshit again. It was fuck awful stupid when they tried to pull this crap with Metroid, and it's even dumber with Star Fox. They are are a paramilitary group that engages in active combat for money. They're mercs. Period.
>>738751026More like Pepper is stingy with the funds. He freaks out when you hand him the bill after playing well after all.
It's kinda sad they're almost certainly never going to add infantry combat again.Imagine disabling an enemy base in your plane and then boarding it with a Star Wars firefight in there.
>>738751034Blame Activision for killing VV
>>738751172Because no matter how fucked up Zoness is, or the rampant AI and mines that pollute sector X, unless it's a job authorized by some official who is actively in the Cornerian military they cannot take up the job. They also need a job that pays a shitload too, see >>738749347
>>738751210>never going to add infantry combat again.Based if true. The landmaster/blue marine or, may Allah forgive me, the chicken walker are already bad enough but they're fine for one-off missions for variety. On foot is just trash and should never go beyond a meme unlock for multiplayer.
>>738751209To be fair to Pepper, most of Corneria's military, not to mention the planet itself, took a massive beating and rebuilding all that has got to be astronomically expensive.
>>738751185Based. It doesn't matter whether Nintendo considers it "canon", it's the coolest option with the most potential and therefore (should be) real. Like with cybernetic legs.
>>738751340Hence not being able to pay Star Fox to sit around on retainer either
>>738750489>>738750557This kids don't remember N64 General Pepper letting out a shocked "WHAAAAAAAT!?" sound as the final scene of the game, if you scored enough points.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApQcKyFzGH4
>>738751340Star Fox probably saved a ton of money by doing jobs that would typically require the heavy elements of his fleet, thoughbeit.
>>738751340That's what taxes are for.
>>738750976Guard makes this whole thing even stupider because it turns out Pigma is the one attacking Grippy's facilities. Fox is dumb as hell to not be trying to get some side hustles going, even though the team's main competitor has multiple businesses. Get it together, McCloud. >>738751210Assault came out before third person shooter gameplay was standardized, and the game's detractors actively refuse to acknowledge configuration C, so Star Fox is NEVER allowed to try that again, ever.
I wish I was an anthro.
>>738751420If you get over 100,000 he'll say: "This is a steep bill! But it's worth it..."
>>738750992I like that they had Fox cut pepper off there. 64 had such attention to detail.
>>738751580The video in the post you replied to already proves you wrong since that's the middle voice line for <70k space bucks
>>738751608>mfw I realized the room and cornerian soldiers were a flat image, the only 3d models are the SF team and Peppy
>>738751576Same. Being a human close to eviction fucking sucks.
>>738751637Hmm. Guess it's random then.
>>738751576>>738751686I wish you two were anthros and my wives (male)
>>738751313Landmaster segments were always more fun than the rwing parts though.
>>738751719It's not, it's based on your score.
>>738751210>It's kinda sad they're almost certainly never going to add infantry combat again.No it isn't. There's a shitload of TPS games on the market and fight combat games are basically dead outside of Ace Combat.
>>738751682this is how my dreams end
>>738751776>rwingopinion invalidated
>>738751785It is random. Because if you get over 100,000 he'll say the middle one. I know so because he did it with me.
>>738751420>Score determined by # of units destroyed x 64>low score = silence + STAMP OF APPROVAL>medium score = "This is one steep bill! ...But it's worth it!" + STAMP OF APPROVAL>high scoree = "WHAAAAAT!?" + STAMP OF APPROVALIt is a mercenary group, after all. They did this for money.
>>738751881I name thee a liar and a charlatan, I used to have a routine of coming home from school, playing SF64, and then getting on with the rest of the day, and he did the hank hill hwhaaat every time unless I got fewer than 1k hits.
>>738691397It's about the size I'd expect, maybe even a little small for a jet. What really trips me up is the size of the Bluemarine, because it's the same size model on-screen but all 4 Star Fox teammates fit inside it, so it must actually be WAY fucking bigger than the Arwing or Landmaster AND everything on Aquas must be titanically fuckhuge to make the Bluemarine look so small in comparison.
>>738750375I have a sneaking suspicion that the only reason this game got greenlit was because of the facecam stuff counting as "innovation".
>>738751608>>738750992>>738751026Fox knows Falco would never put up with rank, discipline, or pomp and circumstance of the army. Peppy probably has his own reasons he's never going back to the military. He feels like he used to be more of a rigid military guy but something changed the trajectory of his life. (James or Pigma)Slippy... I don't know. The original source material makes it kinda questionable how he ever even made the team. He's described as unreliable but hard to dislike. I suspect he became one of Fox's best friends at a pivotal time in Fox's life, and is just good enough an engineer to hold his seat in the unit. Would probably actually do just fine in a uniform.
>>738751952Since you're so aggressive about this from the start I name you a faggot and retard. It's random.
>>738693601>Fox portraid as a fucking faggotNo wonder why furfag retards are on suicide watch due to the new designs kek.
>>738750992What rank would Star Fox have if they had accepted the offer?
>>738703389Imagine getting paid in Argentinian shit currency...
>>738751974I suspect the same, or rather, the graphics being so high fidelity in general. Nintendo has never put out a game that looks anything like this before, so that probably counts as "innovation" to a senile old fart like Miyamoto.
>>738704303Kys retarded faggot
>>738751881Well you better get your copy preserved and analyzed because everyone else's wasn't random at all so you got an ultra rare 1/1 sf64 cart
>>738752274>samefag replied to the wrong post seething
>>738720416Charles Dance but monke
@738752336Your bot broke. Go fix it.
>>738751420Rookie
>>738751952Nobody asked about your life story lil zoomie.
>>738752392>only one medal>calling anyone else a rookie
>>738752392I always preferred the Venom I mission, even though it's not the "true" ending.
>>738752470Zoomers weren't even a twinkle in the mailamn's eyes when SF64 was being played
>>738752392>only has a medal in corneriahmmm?
>>738751210I agree. This, and bounty hunting as a game mode.>Space detective mode where you have to figure out where your target is and possibly what false identity they're using.>Hunt them down and sortie against them in a space fight.>Disable their ship and board it to secure the VIP.It'd be so damn kino if a dev with half a clue did it. Imagine if you could do the whole "I can bring you in warm, or I can bring you in cold" routine, with a chance for them to actually give themselves up if you've been playing well enough and wiping the floor with their mooks.
>>738752386WingwingwingDAMN IT!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkjR_9WVAHcThis is what we 90s kids heard when we played the 3D game "Star Fox."
>Kill all the monkeys>The galaxy is now at peaceWhat did they mean by this
>>738748862No you're right, it's the perfect balance between cool and rustbucket. The newest design just adds lots of clutter.
>>738752709Whenever I see a rabbit speaking in media, I'm immediately reminded of the noises Peppy makes in this game.
>>738752563The fuck is a mailamn, retard?
I would purchase Starfox 64 for the Switch if it was an option. But it kind of blows real hard that I'd need to pay for a yearly subscription to get temporary access to the game. At least I'll get full access to the remake. But I'd kind of want to have the original.
>>738752825teh spelilng mistaeks wlil continue untli moral imporves
>>738752825I think he meant mail man
>>738749859>japan is woke now so they're all trans
>>738752825Ask your mother, lil zoomie :)
>>738692000it's a big boy
>>738752658>>Space detective mode where you have to figure out where your target is and possibly what false identity they're using.The Krystal hate is tier-based this time. Absolutely broken.
>>738753204The Star Fox Adventures toilet paper isn't real. I call bullshit on that.
>>738753204
>>738753141I know what you meant and there's no space either. Try again from your fourth device.
>>738753287Oh, it was real
>>738749415>>738749537I really dig Assault's Arwing. Favorite out of the core series.Starlink's take actually really appealed to me, like you can see Assault's DNA there. Pic rel is a really cool revision someone made a while back that I fell in love with. It just appeals to me.Command is up there since the example from the pic was of Peppy's and James's Arwings, which were based on Assault's.After that you have the 2026 Arwing, which I really dig as well. Really excited to fly it in the new game.Then you have the SNES ones, where are admittedly harder to judge since they are just pixels, but overall I like the shape.The classic styled N64 ones I never found super appealing. The 64 3D one was the worst of that trio. 2026 gets a pass because the art style gives it a very different look.Finally, Adventures. I just really dislike the worn-down look of it and the super long nose.Command's Arwing II from my post I would rank between 2026 and Command's Assault Arwing variant.None of them are bad. Just the SF64-styled ones were always just "okay" at best for me.
>>738751210We shall see. I think we will go back on-foot at some point.
>>738753447They knew the game was shit you can't make this up. Also what's in that bottle? It's a kids game so it can't be beer.
>>738753590Adventures was hard-carried by how good it looked for a 2002 game.
>>738753447Wait Adventures was rated T? Why?
>>738752651Fortuna medal is so easy, that must be most people's first one.
>>738753447Fuck you know I think it was circuit city that gave me a shadow plush when I bought sonic adventure 2. wtf I forgot stores did this
>>738753447This was basically shitposting on furries.
>>738749347Honestly a mercenary buying his own battleship just sounds like a cover story for someone that's actually a still in Corneria's army but does off the book dirty jobs to keep the army's image squeaky clean.
>>738753653Have you tried looking on the back of your game case?
>>738753590>>They knew the game was shitMedia literacy momentIt's literally just that you'll be playing the game nonstop that you'll be cooped up in your room and you'll be so obsessed with it that when you go to take a crap that you'll have to read through the guide on toilet paper>>738753653Fat furry titties
>>738745280I literally talked about that in this thread.>>738732516
>>738753686i'm 100% sure it is
>>738752709Fox (tenor male)>Good Health = Da damn damnda damn damn!>Low Health = Damn it duh DAMN IT!!>Crash Damage = DAMNITDAMNDAMndamnitdamndamnda!Falco (bass male)>Good Health = Wing wing wing dammit!>Low Health = DAMN!! Wingwingwinwinwiwindamn WING WING!!>Crash Damage = GROAN!! DAMNDAMNDAMN d-WINGDAMN!!!Peppy (alto cute)>Good Health = Wink wink WINK! Woodwink wink!>Low Health = Damn it! Wink per damn at!!>Crash Damage = SCREECHING WINK!! We got FINGered!!Slippy (baritone youth)>Good Health = Rib ribbit! Rib ribbit!>Low Health = WHIBBIT!? WHRibbit, ribbit...>Crash Damage = WHRIB IT RIBDIBIT rribbi dibbit ROOOHHH!!
>>738753590Jones is a novelty/marketing gimmick soda brand whose penchant is having a bunch of wacky themed flavors.
Another Star Fox thread hits bump limit. Losing count. Good stuff, what a time to be a fan.
>>738754132I do have to wonder if these threads would be anywhere as successful if it weren't for the movie stuffing Fox back into the zeitgeist followed by the game reveal
>>738754278not at all
>>738754278The Galaxy movie did its job. It was a big-budget ad, and advertised it did.
