What exactly was the message of this game?
>>738704765Believe in yourself! Chase after your dreams!
>>738704765always remember to not forget the memories you forgot
>>738704765They literally say it in the game
>>738704765Most video games don't have messages these are always reserved for more intellectual writings that you see in books and movies. Some will cope and pretend like New Vegas convey a hidden philosophical idea but you ask the developers themselves and they'll tell you it's just their Fallout table top campaign (Van Burren) turned into a real game and characters like Ulysses are just their self inserts."War never changes" is just an ongoing theme at this point to sell as many Fallout games as possible. It's not a message, it's a marketing solgan.
>>738704765Old world problems in a new world. The end of the age of cowboys, one way or another, being atavistic or being progressive (Industrializing/nation building not socially progressive) both ends the age of frontiers and cowboys.We're doomed to have civilization foist upon the whole world, but, it's not the end, for man can still change within civilization.
Dean Domino is probably the coolest character in any video game.
>>738704765the message is Benny maky not be a fink but I sure as hell am. Shot that fucker in back of the head
>>738705940>maky*mayfuck, I might be tired
>>738704765something something chop your dick off
>>738704765Does a game really need a message?
>>738704765Conflict always same
>>738705925Dean is a cuck malding for over 200 years because Vera chose Sinclair over him in the end
>>738704765I don't know I never played it
>>738705991what was bully's message?
>>738705996have sex, incel
>>738706083[Barter 50] Maybe we should pay to get you laid, Dean
>>738704765that not everything is actually in your control as the player, and that you can't please everyone. at least that's the message I got.
>>738706050damn i didn't know bully was based af
>>738706192[Speech 1000000000000000000] Blow it out your ass, Dean Domino is the coolest character ever.
>>738704765not everything is a gay marvel film, not everything has to have a message
Let goBegin againTake all the gold and put it in your bathtub in Novac
>>738704765It’s about letting go of the past to get a new beginning. The DLCs even told you that outright
>>738706875Last time I played I couldn't do the gold trick, I think they patched it
>>738706734Marvel films don't convey any message they are smart as the average new vegas player
>>738704765Democracy doesn't work and just ends up pissing everyone off.
>>738706246It's more based than any other Rockstar title.
>>738706916The DLC campaigns are about that. The main game has nothing to do with it, it's more about how ordinary people get caught up in the crossfire between imperialistic powers
BearBull
>>738704765War Never ChangesLet Go of the Old in favor of the New (4 would ironically reverse this message)The New FrontierReturn of Civilization, and choosing how you want to go about that- Democracy (NCR)- Autocracy (House)- DIY (Independent)- Antithesis and Synthesis (The Legion)
>>738707067All the followers quests are about how they are haunted by their past and that they need to let go of that to get peace.It’s also the theme of a lot of factions like the Boomers, the BoS and the Khans were the best ending they can get is about moving on from the past to start anew
>>738707287I know for a fact with Arcade, Raul and Lily you can tell them that their past is important, that it meant something and that they should honor it. Cass can't reclaim her past, but she can avenge herself. Don't know about Boone since I never even bothered to entertain that edgy cuck and I just randomly murder him in half my runsBoomers don't have a "move on" ending to my knowledge
>>738704765if you kill everyone, you can still win.
>>738706875Dead Money is such a kino DLC. My favorite by far.
>>738707627It's a great filter
>>738707558Boone learns to forgive himself and to try and do right by others for so long as he's on the mortal coil instead of beating himself up.Boomers shift towards opening up trade and having limited contact, now with their bomber, they feel more confident and like they've bided their time.
>>738704765damn human nature u scary
>>738704765Don't fuck with the mailman
>>738704765Become a tranny and wander the Mojave in search of gay shit to do
>>738705925Just don't let Dean's aviators and smooth voice distract you from how much of a petty scumbag he is
>>738707627Ruined by companions that talk literally once every 30 secondsHell, it having companions at all is utterly antithetical to the gameplay and atmosphere is trying to have. LR is better
>>738707558It is not as much ignoring the past as not being haunted by it for them. They are anchored by what happened and clinging to it tend to be the worst decision, best example of that would be Lily. But even for Cass the vendetta option gets you the «worst ending» and for Arcade telling him to help the Remnants will make him a hunted man. For Raul, he can embrace his vaquero identity or settle, in both cases he makes peace with what happened.For the Boomers, the leader also directly ask you to help them adapt to the changes in the Mojave
>>738706963they made you slow walk even carrying a body part but you can just blow him up at the door and make sure there are pieces on both sides of the force field
>>738707067>The main game has nothing to do with itThe DLC beats you over the head with it in case you somehow missed it in the main game. Each of the major factions have some fixation on pre-war America and have a goal to either reclaim or recreate some part of it.NCR and the Legion want Hoover Dam because it's a symbol of the old world (Caesar mostly can't let go of the fact that failed to claim it), House himself is a part of the past that refuses to die and only cares about restoring Vegas to its former glory, the BoS only cares about preserving old world tech and is dying because they refuse to change, etc.The reason Lonesome Road is the last DLC is because it's about a new place that formed and developed without being tethered to the past, which is why Ulysses likened it to a new America and why the Courier was sent to destroy it.
>>738708450>Each of the major factions have some fixation on pre-war America and have a goal to either reclaim or recreate some part of it.No shit, it's a Fallout game. The question is whether the point is about letting go or not and the main game is decidedly neutral about that . Hell, when it comes to the NCR, it's not so neutral, it's almost explicit that they shouldn't give up despite everything because their campaign is a question of survival for them
>>738708638>Hell, when it comes to the NCR, it's not so neutral, it's almost explicit that they shouldn't give up despite everything because their campaign is a question of survival for themIt’s not ? The game keeps telling you that the NCR is stretched so far and wide that they can’t control all that land effectively. Chief Hanlon sabotage the war effort because he thinks that they can’t hold the Mojave and that it’s better for the Republic in the long run to recenter on California
>>738704765war....war something or other and the house always wins
FNV lets you kill every woman you see. This shit would never fly in the modern era.
>>738706963Which trick? You can always just stealth boy around Elijah and sneak out, even when overloaded with gold.The real treasure from Dead Money was always the paper money you can win at the casino, though. It's worth a huge amount.
>>738704765Fascism is the correct ideology
The message I got was that people will constantly cling to the ways of the old, often ignoring the mistakes made over and over that lead to destruction. The NCR is replicating the exact government that led into the apocalypse, Caesar's Legion is pulling often times the worst lessons of the society they emulate, House is literally a relic from before the war continuing to treat the world as his own to define, and, ironically, despite independent trying to find a new path, it's basically the Courier saying, "No, I'm better than all these people, I'm going to be the one that figures all this out!" Which failed in the past too.You also see this in the DLC. Dead Money is about literally letting go of the past, whether its grudges, greed, or trying to find answers for questions that never had them to begin with. Honest Hearts is about remembering what's important, but not desperately clinging to past rage and hate. Old World Blues is focused on the scientists looking at their old lives, constantly thinking their experiments are the path forward, despite it just being habit at this point that leaves them lost in a cycle. And Lonesome Road is all about tying the tragedy of the past to some source, some person, and refusing to let that go despite the world having moved on.It's also about finding a balance between the past and the future. You have to pick an ending, you can't avoid what happened in the past that led into the apocalypse. Each faction has major flaws no matter what. But you pick one that feels like it's taking the next steps forward, remembering what actually needs to be remembered, and hoping it doesn't all come to ruin again.I dunno, that's what I got. Not sure if NV even has a core theme outside of "War never changes", but I felt there was a lot of focus on how the past haunts us, shapes us, but allows us to build something new at the same time.
You're valid.
>>738712684But you can also be a woman. Girl on girl violence is good and hot.
>>738713006Now that I think about it, it's pretty weird how an RPG with as many mechanical layers as FNV doesn't have a female hygiene system. Imagine needing to constantly be on the hunt for pads and tampon substitutes, lest your pants turn red and you attract predators while out in the desert.
>>738712798None of the factions are facist. Well, maybe the Enclave, but they aren't a major faction.
>>738712684I'm a woman.
>>738713605I know. That's why you get called a bitch so much.
>>738706875I actually rarely take the gold in dead money because I usually have so much caps at that point that I don't need it
>>738713837That's probably because you start your playthroughs by heading straight to Vegas with 9 luck and cleaning out all the casinos.
>>738704765War never changes. That's always been the message of Fallout and it's the same for New Vegas.
>>738704765>What exactly was the message of this game?
>>738713605>I'm a woman.X to doubt
>>738713981MGS4 obliterated that message. PC gamers are gonna wake up when MGS4 releases on PC soon.
>>738714158They're completely different messages that tackle different aspects of war
>>738714247I disagree. One makes a statement; "War never changes". The other makes an antithetical statement; "War has changed". They are diametrically opposed messages. They contradict and conflict.
>>738714363The methods and mechanisms behind war changed, the underlying reason for why war exists have not. They don't contradict each other.
>>738706963No they didn't, what are you talking about
>>738704765never forget
>>738714505Lemme say two things.>Humans haven't changed over the last 50000 years. We still eat food, fuck and poop.>Humans have changed over the last 50000 years. Our diet is different, we fap to porn, and poop in toilets.
>>738714895Both are true.
>>738715076One can be more meaningfully true than the other. Saying humans are still the same because we still breathe air is a trifling observation. There's such a plethora of differences among modern humans that they outweigh the similarities twentyfold.
>>738714158>>738714247>>738714363>>738714505Ffs, not this bullshit again>war never changesA statement about how no matter what changes, humans will always fight for the same dumb reasons>war has changedA statement about how the Patriots' AI systems have engineered war to a point it's become an artificial micromanaged ecosystem serving the interest and economy of the US - through the use of biochemical altering nanomachines, ID locked weapons, fourth-gen warfare via private military companies, etc. to secure planned outcomes - and equivalent to a kid playing with his action figures. It takes actual relics from before war was commercialised to take SOP down.Fallout and MGS4 are making completely different observations at different points of view. One is remarking about how human nature remains the same across history, the other is remarking how that human nature is being being puppeteered by institutions to fundamentally change the nature of war. The very thing that makes Fallout say "war never changes" is gone in MGS4. They're not the same message, but they're not mutually exclusive.
>>738704765you can kill the "essential characters" and the world with keep moving, no one is too important
>>738715975>Saying humans are still the same because we still breathe air is a trifling observation.It's not saying humans are the same, but certain things never change. No matter how much the ways of humans change much of our nature will always remain the same and will continue to impact us in large ways.
>>738716165Yep
>>738704765https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr87O1IzF-A
>>738709159And Hanlon was clearly portrayed as in the wrong. The NCR needs the power of the dam and they need the water supply too since they used up their own. Further it's abundantly clear that if the Legion wins, they'll continue westward eventually. The NCR wins in Vegas or it dies
>>738704765War Never Changes
>>738704765Todd never changes
>>738704765Any problem can be solved with the right combination of drugs and guns.
Drugs sex and rock and roll radiation Get big or get hit ya dig?
>>738704991>war>war never changes
>>738706963>I think they patched it
>>738704765>Boys are icky, you don't want to be an icky boy do you?
>>738723458>shitalian schizo babble
It's letting go
>>738704765bears n bulls
>>738705996But Dean only wanted Vera to get to Sinclair's fortune. He also banged her a bunch
Why did dead money filter so many people?
>>738719889Eh, Mr. HOUSE is still a good ending for NCR, they lose their egomaniac warhawks and Mr. House is always willing to negotiate and write new contracts. Of course this time they'll be more favorable for him.
>>738725002The speakers from what I've read lol
>>738725002All your gear being taken away at the beginningThe speakers, which were not an issue at all if you have an IQ of at least triple digitsFailing your companion's quest lines because dialogue options actually mattered and if they hated you they would turn on you at the endNot being able to take all the gold at the end (ironic given the theme of the DLC)The cloud making exploration "hard" and having to scrounge a little bit for chips to get resources
>>738725065Mr. House ending where Hanlon becomes a senator, and you use the Barter option to negotiate with Oliver, is easily the best outcome for the NCR.>Hanlon cleans house with anti corruption campaigns and getting warhawks out>The power and water from the Vegas area is still sent to the NCR at fair rates>Fair trade practices and regulations are enforced against the Brahmin barons allowing NCR to actually fight them instead of being held hostage>NCR citizens are welcomed in the Vegas area allowing for mobility and trade, making the NCR wealthier and healthier and gives them the stepping stones to actually improve themselves>House guarantees he only wants the Vegas area, and that the NCR is free to continue into Colorado, allowing for further expansion>Stops the Legion and polices the Mojave so it's safe and no longer a continuous threat to the NCR which started the Mojave campaign in the first place
>>738725065I think that any ending that humbles the NCR is a good ending. It doesn't necessarily have to be House, but he would probably be the best middle ground to do it since Legion victory would be a clusterfuck for everyone and I don't see an Independent Vegas being as big as a threat as House to the NCR. In particular one where Hanlon goes back to the NCR and becomes the Mayor of Redding and starts getting into politics more to fight the corruption, and where Kimball, Oliver and their people get torn apart by the people after failing the mojave expansion. Not like it matters since Bethesda nuked the story out of existence, but it's nice to imagine.
>>738704765>What exactly was the message of this game?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-jHc-cQPg
>>738705925I don't like that passing a Speech check makes him despise you irrevocably. It's just misunderstanding of how to implement skills in game design. There's more to human communication than rhetorical bullying.
>>738725002People become too over reliant on their gear and consumes rather than their perks and character skills. When I first played Dead Money back when it came out I despised it since it made things more stressful but I've come to appreciate it now in recent years. The game basically forcibly reverts you to the same state you were at the start of the game and things are actually dangerous again organically in a way that you never get again after you finish it. The difficulty is entirely reliant on your build and stuff like implants can greatly mitigate the hellish scenario so it's more of a knowledge check than anything. The speakers also filter people but outside of one in the vault that can be annoying to reach in time most are pretty reasonable to deal with.
>>738725002Imagine if the mysterious hallway chirp also exploded your head, but you came back just before your head exploded.>>738712774>paper money you can win at the casino, though. It's worth a huge amount.Nigga, the chips allow you to print infinite sustain of health and weapon condition as well as ammo.what do you want paper money for besides wiping your ass?
>>738704765da bearda bull
It's letting go...It's letting go...It's letting go...
>>738725545the funny thing is that by the end I had a shitton of sierra madre chips and I walked out with like 300 buffout, med-x and stimpaks
>>738704765Richie Marcus likes balls
>>738704765Trans rights.
>>738707090>>738712859Kino
>>738727352>infinite sustain of health and weapon conditionI naturally have that already in the form of the healing items and weapons I find. The paper money lets me buy fucking giga loads of ammo, which I then break down and turn into magnum ammo.
>>738729513You could do that with ammo from vending machinesI get free ammo from the Legion every 3 days.
>>738725002Retards looking for xp wins during conversations and not reading them
>>738704765>Avellone said in a recent interview that it was a prequel to Van BurenI called it. Everything going to shit is the canon ending btw.
>>738704765Avellone is a hack
>>738729792>>Avellone said in a recent interview that it was a prequel to Van BurenHuh?
>>738728142Yeah, it's not a hard DLC at all, even on Very Hard. But the base game is even easier by comparison, and people were used to that, so any level of adversity, no matter how small, made them angry. You can go and find tons of threads on gamefaqs from 15 years ago complaining about the unfair difficulty of Dead Money.
that the factions were all aping pre-war ideologies and that war never changes
>>738729854He had a lot of great ideas but I think in execution a lot of them weren't the best
>>738729921I only saw a clip of the interview but it's in there. The interviewer is a dope, just a heads up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTYLWLAakaE
>>738704765The United States of america was a mistakeliberal governments suck ass and only bring destruction whenever they go
>>738730075I watched the interview already and to my memory he only said that a lot of stuff in Van Buren was partially canon to New Vegas, which fans already knew for years, Avellone just reaffirmed it.
>>738730228I don't think that's true. He said that was the next Fallout game they wanted to make. Also. Bethesda doesn't have the source code for NV.
>>738730143The US is almost certainly a doomed country currently so I guess you should be happy
>>738730303>I don't think that's trueIt literally is, there were tons of things from Van Buren that were changed/reused in New Vegas or simply referenced like the Twin Mothers, Ciphers, and Colorado BoS
>>738704765The main story doesn't have one beyond "One guy can change the tide of an entire war". The DLCs have a strong message of "Look, Bethesda makes these games now. Get over it loser."They really hit you over the head with the direct, spoken to the player, message that you have to stop living in the past an accept that the world has changed. That's not a subtle message given the context that the game was released under.
>>738730532I don't think you understand. The events of VB did not happen yet in the NV timeline. Lonesome Road was designed with the idea of a Van Buren sequel.That's why the locations are referenced. And why there is a nuclear reset option. Here is a better video on the subject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIGR-57cb0I
>>738704765Drugs and violence are cool and legal
>>738705996Dean was fucking Vera, while she was dating Sinclair, how is he a cuck lmao
>>738730064Still better than 99% of the RPGs today.
>>738730875Doubt. What he most likely meant was that he simply wanted to create potential for conflict/stories in a New Vegas 2 or follow up game, not necessarily "Van Buren". Technically New Vegas takes place after Van Buren since Black Isle had plans to make Fallout 4 about the second war between the NCR and Legion, which is what New Vegas is about. And then were tons of things in New Vegas that changed things from how they were meant to be in Van Buren. It's possible a New Vegas follow up would have been inspired by ideas from Van Buren but so was New Vegas.
>>738731146I'm somewhat excited for the next game Avellone is working on
>>738712774>paper moneyThis, you can get like 100k worth of pre-war money.
Why didnt Mr. House just have the Courier put mind-control head exploding devices from Vault-Tec into Caesar and General Oliver?
>>738731423Well we could have gotten more info if Mantis wasn't an idiot.There is no mention of the new plague wiping out Utah / Colorado in NV, which would be a pretty significant event. Hoover Dam was supposed to be a Mutant settlement, which could still be done with the mutants from Jacobstown and Black Mountain. They wouldn't be contained if the Mojave collapsed.There is no mention of the railway system which was going to play a major role. Joshua Graham was introduced, and he even has burn marks in the VB concept. All you would need to do is have the Legion invade New Canaan and wipe out his tribe. It's easy to spin it around since it was never finished.
>>738726009Filtered. The whole point of his character is that he's an insane cuck.
>>738732628>There is no mention of the new plague wiping out Utah / Colorado in NV, which would be a pretty significant event.Yes, because Van Buren isn't canon and likely wasn't seriously planned to be brought back, it's ideas were just reused. Theres also stuff like the twin mothers who were meant to play a decently significant role in Van Buren's main quest but in Lonesome Road the lore was changed and they were wiped out by The Legion. Again I think the most rational explanation is that a New Vegas follow up would have recycled ideas from Van Buren just like NV but it wouldn't really have been Van Buren.
>>738733094Well, Chris chose the words "Van Buren" in reference to NV2. The last DLC references VB. So what else would a NV sequel be? Sure it's up to interpretation, but there is more evidence to suggest it would be a VB reboot. But it's not happening so there you go.
>>738734382The entire game references stuff Van Buren, not just the last DLC. I just doubt it would have been "Van Buren" in the form we know because there was too much that was changed and reused in New Vegas for a Van Buren proper be to made, but something inspired heavily by Van Buren like New Vegas definitely could have been possible. But yes it is all just speculation and the information we have is pretty sparse.
>>738707067Because the Courier may as well be player in terms of story. The game is telling you to let go of your preconceptions of “America” and to accept what it has become, to let go of who you are in the outside and be someone different when you come inside. Ulysses just about shatters the fourth wall trying to hammer the courier over the head with it at the end of Lonesome Road, telling the player there will be no coexistence and to choose a definite path forward for America. No matter how many die or how destructive it is, he sees it as the ultimate way of advancing the Mojave out of conflict, an escape and an end to never ending war. It’s up to the player to come in an convince Ulysses that HE needs to let go, and to let humanity go forward and find a way for themselves that isn’t paved with hellfire.
The most important part of the Avellone interview was that he spoke directly against /v/'s accusations of him being against wasteland society advancing and that he was going to use the tunnellers to do that.>I'm not against a post-post-apocalypse setting. I just think there's so many stories left to tell in the post-apocalypse that we need to take our time.>I didn't want the NCR destroyed like the TV show did. I wanted them reset to a point that they couldn't realistically take over America within the next 20 years.>I haven't seen a single person realize how the tunnellers would have been defeated. There's a reason we never see them in broad daylight.
>>738704765Games don't have messages you dumb shit. Nothing has a "message". Things just exist. Retard.
>>738737131>/v/'s accusationsProbably mostly Bethestards
>>738737859Bethestards are the neo-cons of Fallout fans, incapable of imagining the setting with BoS bases everywhere and always at the ready to go do neo-con shit across America. NV was right to murder the faction because 4 and the show have completely mangled the faction, sure it depicts them as stupid, but it never portrays them as the indirect lapdogs of the Enclave like they are.
>>738737587>Nothing has a "message"I disagree, I've got a "message" right here for you anon
>>738704765I don't really recall one. I suppose if there's one to take then it would be on a quest-by-quest basis, depending on the options you chose. This is what makes New Vegas an actual roleplaying game unlike Fallout 3 that forces you to play a certain character. The DLCs are a bit more focused, particularly Dead Money, but it helps that it was based on a famous beloved movie.
>>738704765That depends on how (you) played. What did you learn OP?Making the bold assumption that you're still here in the thread you made.
>>738704765What did Obsidian mean by this?
>>738704765Old bad, New good.>>738730784>The DLCs have a strong message of "Look, Bethesda makes these games now. Get over it loser."And look where that lead us.This disdain for people who don't simply bend over to the "New World" and try to continue/revive the Old is why I've grown to dislike NV over the years. It's a defeatist mindset that's extremely harmful.Fan games like Sonora that simply don't give a fuck and carry on like the Bethesda titles never happened are more worthy of respect IMO.
>>738737859>>738737131>>738738106they are referencing Ulysses dialogue of how Tunnelers breed rampantly and can take down deathclaws and could take over the Mojave through sheer numbersI haven't played LN in a long ass time but I do recall a line like that, can't find it though
>>738739838Yeah, but at the same time, it’s also implied that the only way they are allowed in the light of the divide is because of the thick dust cloud covering it in sandstorms. They’re creatures with a lethal photophobic insensitivity, sure they could capsize Vegas one day. One day. That’s what it’s left as, it’s another reinforcement of everyone in the wastes having to live with the mistakes of the people before them and the bullshit that brings with it, it will be ultimate test of the wastes. It’s raised more as a question as to what the current power players could even do to stop them, the answer is absolutely fucking nothing, it’s another reason that Ulysses feels so strongly that he must force the wastes to “evolve” just like the Master before him, because he knows humanity is woefully underprepared for what comes 200-300 years from now, even if they do rebuild the world, it’s fucking mole people, dude.
>>738732067The show isn't canon o algo
What's the best way to deal with Benny in your opinion anons?
>>738704765That the game was rigged from the start.
>>738739838Ulysses is retarded so it doesn't matter
>>738704765communism is actually good you fucking chud!
>>738704765War, War Never Changes>>738707265>NCR>DemocracyCorrupt yes.Legion is just Slavery, it's the dictatorial aspects of Roman society which is awful if you care about the people if New Vegas they are essentially raiders but less degenerate. Raiders enslave, rape and kill any opposition.Even the Great Khans are better than the Legion, its implied they start an empire of their own in the north around Wyoming or something after one of the endings>During the Battle of Hoover Dam, the Great Khans quickly evacuated Red Rock Canyon and headed north and east into the plains of Wyoming. There, they reconnected with the Followers of the Apocalypse and rebuilt their strength. Bolstered by ancient knowledge of governance, economics, and transportation, they carved a mighty empire out of the ruins of the Northwest.
I got spurs that jingle jangle jingle
>>738741734bloody mess, sneak attack shotgun to the facehe is a very vain man so he wouldn't like looking gored up after death.then cannibalize his corpse
>>738704765kill shit burn shit fuck all forms of governance you're the boss
>>738744442I got SPERGS that jingle jingle jangle
>>738744442Get out of hereeeeee and get me some money toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF8YkyhupPQ
>>738744645Mr. New Vegas is an AI voice made up by Mr. House. He doesn't exist.
>>738704765that Leo is a bad man and you have to take meds to keep him down
>>738704765>shit sucks but people in the past didnt have magic ways to make it suck less they just had more convenience while they race to doom
>>738705996Complete opposite you retard. Dean is a psychotic sigma male who only cares about fame and fortune. The woman was an inanimate tool for him to use. Sinclair is the cuck, both literally and figuratively.
>>738745483Dean couldnt stand that Sinclair didnt give up hope and become jaded and sociopathic like he had, and Vera chose Sinclair and hope in the end despite Dean thinking he had full control of her. He slipped and fell in the vault though and she overdosed waiting for him
>>738704765what doesn't kill you gives you amnesia and precognition
>>738704765The problem with telling the point of this game is that it's personal to my character and the choices I made. Which faction did you choose? How did you weigh the options? Answer those questions for yourself to discover the "message".
>>738706875Side with Elijah and wipe the slate clean.
The message was that Benny was right and any form of clinging to the old world is doomed to fail.
>>738704765double tapping is not enough
>>738704765Politics will always divide people and gambling is a profitable hobby.
>>738704765Drink Sunset Sarsaparilla
>>738725002Annoying enemies and stealth doesn't work
>>738739609Rich guy hates taxes. That's the joke
>>738704765Why they made you not kill yes man?
so does radiation actually cause shit like giant ants and geckos or whatalso why dont the wastelanders make radroach suits and block radiation
It’s good?
>>738750727Because Yes Man is a failsafe if you happen to slaughter every fucking human being in the Mojave Wasteland, since New Vegas lets you kill anyone freely, except for children unless you have the modThat way you won't softlock yourself from finishing the game
>>738704765It was rigged from the start.
>>738750729>so does radiation actually cause shit like giant ants and geckos or whatin real life i mean
>>738750973They could of have a ending that the courier can leave the mojave and dont even bothered with the characters
>>738706916>>738706875>>738705996Dlcs are not canon
>>738704765Something about violence, and how it's fairly consistent. Or something like that. I dunno, that was my takeaway anyway.
>>738704765something bout jesuswoke nu fallout is fucking gay 3 and nv and somewhat 4 had edgy christian themes
>>738704765Just because the game is rigged doesn't mean you can't triumph.
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>>738751672Actually it was something they planned during developmentYou would just go to the Mojave Outpost and go to California to chill, credits rollThere’s a mod that recreates this ending and it’s pretty funnyYou just ask Major Knight at Mojave Outpost and game ends lol
>>738725002Antisocial sperg redditors can't into understanding conversations and basic gameplay
