https://www.segasammy.co.jp/cms/wp-content/uploads/pdf/en/ir/20260512_q4_presentation_en.pdfSuper bros...
Qrd?
>>738704837They canceled the super game.
segasammy bros...
>roviowhy did they buy these retards again?
>>738704781meanwhile sony has greenlighted 5 more live service games
>>738704837Sega's been talking up a huge game that would define it for this generation, but decided to cancel its development.
>>738704837An unknown cosmically budgeted (estimated $500 million) project announced in like 2020, had Microsoft backing too. Nobody could really pin down if it was just one actual game or a collection of GAAS games they were working on, but it was going to be GAAS shit nonetheless. The right side suggests they're moving away from GAAS all together.
>>738704781I'm glad companies are starting to realize the IP's that got them to where they are are the ones people want to play, and not shitty new IP live service games.
>>738704863Oh no...
>>738704837Basically, they announced this in a 2021 financial report. Nothing happened, and now it's dead.
At least Sega are course correcting, lads.
>>738704940I'm pretty sure Sega bought them only because of their preexisting mobile development tools and infrastructure. Same kind of overtly optimistic nonsense as Sony buying Bungie because of their supposed GAAS expertise.
>>738705080Whoever they got on the payroll tard wrangling the retarded Japanese business boomers is probably one of the most important unsung heroes in the industry.
>>738704781Huh. I thought they decided the "super game" was a collection of GaaS like battle royale Crazy Taxi. Which would coincide with that slide. What's gonna happen to them then
>>738705249still alive, until they kill it
they joined the ack
>>738705249Crazy Taxi and Jet Set (both were heavily rumored to be GAAS) are still listed to be in production. They're probably getting hastily retooled into standard experiences. Unfortunately that also means they're likely going to be slop that suffered the same way like Redfall (side note, Microsoft was funding this lmao)https://www.sega.co.jp/en/release/211101_1.html
>>738704837>Sega announces a SUPER GAME PROJECT>Apparently they were dumping $600+ mil into a bunch of GaaS games>It was misreported as being one game with a $500 mil budget, but Sega would put out a statement correcting that later>The first game in that project was pic iirc>Reception for it was so negative and the development cycle was such a fucking disaster (there's a funny story about Sega becoming so pissed with the devs who were in the EU that they sent over JP reps to try and salvage/overwatch the project) that Sega ended up canning the game before release>Other F2P GaaS shit like Sonic Rumble Party and that Sakura Wars Gacha performed like ass as well>Sega realized that this was a dumbass idea (like everyone realized back when they first announced the project) so now they're backpedaling to focus more on making normal video games again instead of chasing the F2P GaaS meme
>>738704781Bamco should be next as they also had some super duper big game.
Huh, I thought Stranger Than Heaven was their mega budget title, guess its not.
>>738705270The Golden Axe redesigns they have teased don't really sell it to me. Hopefully they have reconsidered that, and get rid of the pauldrons, fix Tyris Flare's haircut and give her back her bikini armor.
>>738704781>>738705028>>738705029>Sega is the ONE dev to grasp this shit is dyingSince when did Sega grown a brain?But good for them
>>738704781Super game isn't a game, it was a multi game project, they're cancelling the initiative
>>738705338Japan can't into live service unlike China LMAO
>>738705380It obviously has a big budget still though
>>738705464Sega cancelling Hyenas probably saved Creative Assembly from total foreclosure
>>738705249They made some of the super games but as they are moving away they canceled future ones, or anything that still comes out will no longer be considered part of the super game project
>>738705464>Since when did Sega grown a brain?Losing millions helps you realize that a plan probably isn't working.
Bros... We'll never get to use our Apes in Sega Super Games now...
>>738705249Maybe the "Super game" was some kind of big meta game like Fortnite and all of those GaaS games were part of it, now they are different projects.
>>738705552They should probably stick to Total War and Alien.
Time to make PSO2 great again?
>crossworlds>we pay for it upfront>pay for DLC if we want (fair price)>online events>fun game>sells fairly well and will keep selling>sonic rumble>free to play>pay for cosmetics if we want (overpriced)>online events>this is garbage>a thorough disappointment
>>738705516China has its own problems, like the state mandated enshittification looming over every single Chinese video game. Look into what happened to Snowbreak, CCP officials suddenly decided to side with Chinese feminists and enforce their strictest obscenity rules over it for seemingly no reason, likely because of some behind the scenes drama between important party members and corpo suits, and in China the CCP always wins.
>>738705637NGS is way too dead to be saved.
isnt sega sammy the one brazilian kid that was a sonic freak that turned into a tranny with a boyfriend with a motorcycle and a muscle car?
>>738705637Make a new Phantasy Star (without the O, you can have the O but not mandatory O)
>>738705637How's NGS these daysI haven't touched it since they implemented bouncer since it was nothing like my pso2 jet boots so I lost interest.
>>738705714so bad that sybolt trooned out
>>738705589>Hire FGO dev despite people hating loathing actual game>Looks and plays like ass because is just a cheap FGO clone>Also treat old cast like shitBravo sega. At least game died in record time.
>>738704781reminder, super game was an initiative name, not a product codename
>>738705641It was probably a combination of all their GaaS shit crashing and burning mixed with the positive reception and sales of stuff like Crossworlds, Metaphor and Unicorn Overlord that convinced Sega to quit being retards.Money talks.
>>738704781>HeartbreakingThis is fucking great news, all the games announced at the Game Awards teo years ago are still coming, they just won't have GaaS all over them now.https://x.com/i/status/2054050332188270937
>>738705682pso1 wasnt mandatory online despite the name
>>738705832two*
>>738705589Sega's treatment of Sakura Wars is so funked. Just constantly sending that thing out to die with retarded ideas stitched onto it when SWfags just want a normal ass SW game.
>>738705338I miss the shitposting about Hyenas, a shame it never launched. the memes would have been glorious
>>738705249The Super Game was all of these games having GaaS support, they now won't have that garbage and will just be stand alone games (which they should have been in the first place)
>>738705762Thank god, huh.I don't think anyone will miss this crappy format.
>>738705338reminder that the total war warhammer developers all got resigned to this fucking shitshow
>>738705896it basically launched, there was a "closed beta" that just accepted everyone that applied because there was practically zero interest in the game.i played it for like two hours before i got bored. it's such a mediocre game that it isn't even fun to make fun of.
Based Sega, they actually see the sinking ship of GaaS slop compared to some of these other faggot devs
>>738705965i fucking remember thatThen they told us to fuck off dont buy dlc if we keep complaining about the amount of content/pricethen come running back promising to fix shitbut then they announced tw40k so all is good
>>738705641>>sells fairly well and will keep sellingSega has gone on to say multiple times that they were disappointed with Crossworld's sales.
>>738704781>Weak Performance of Sonic Rumble PartyShould've made a proper Sonic Mario Party clone you faggots. Man I hate how much time they waste on mobile slop.
>Companies are now realizing that overbloated budget AAA GaaS garbage is dying and making smaller scale normal games againOh thank fuck, finally.Can we get a new Valkyria Chronicles now?
>>738705637It's so crazy how much money they were making on PSO2, then they basically just decided to neuter it. Utterly baffling.
Best news I've seen tonight, GaaS games are dying
>>738706040it's sold at least a millionit's the kind of game that sells overtime, not all at once. same with team sonic racing but this game's actually GOOD.
>>738705879They can't admit when they were wrong and just bring back the reason it was popular in the first place, they had to "update" it to be a harem battle academy when that trope was already dying.I will die on the hill that the alt universe mobile game had a better story concept than the soft reboot. Unfortunately, it was FGO with a new coat of paint, so all the fun characters you meet in the first chapter just leave by the second one because they need to sell new SSRs.
>>738705832>No more GaaS Slop Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Bros We are so Back
>>738706054lol, lmao even.
>>738704940Angry Birds IP + Mobile Development studiosWorth something, but not the Billion they paid.
>>738706054A remaster collection of VC 2 and 3 would be such an easy sell. I honestly can't figure out why they haven't done it yet. Even port over that shitty ps4 VC game, people will still buy it.
>Sega Mobile Slop Games are being eliminated>Stopping support of GaaS garbage>Stranger than Heaven looks Kino>All the other Dead IP games are still coming without the stench of GaaS all over themThis is Heartbreaking again why?
>>738704940Rovio was like Sony's Bungie. Bought for their mobile game "expertise." Except they didn't really have any expertise (like Bungie) and were only bought because while Sega DID want a company with mobile game experience, there were none on the market at a cheap price.....except for Rovio. So Sega executives and investors said fuck it. Now Sega is stuck with dead weight like Sony is with Bungie.
>>738704781Just to clariffySuper games only meant the live service part of the upcoming reboot of Sega's old ip's, that part is pretty much dead and buriedThe main standalone releases are still fine and safe
>>738706054something about this animation made me expect ryona / gore
>>738706334They'll get something out of the IP with that new Angry Birds movie at least
>>738706329Sega and SNK are the kings of Jap dev studios that probably should've died over a decade ago but somehow keep coming back.
>>738704781How much money down the drain?
>>738704781>getting everyone internally out of GaaS besides this Rovio acquisition they need to find some way to make money off of >took a bunch of GaaS people and put them on full game development for existing IPs>also acknowledged that Sonic Rumble was a flopthis is strictly a good thing
>>738705721You are still stalking him?
>>738706379That's it? Wtf Sega. Give us more games than that.
I would've killed myself if that JSR reboot came out as a F2P gaas game.
>Shenmue 4 is cancelledwtf bros...
>>738705762attribute it more to Metaphor and Unicorn Overlord or Atlus in general, Crossworlds underperformed despite the reception it had and Sega said that upfront. They also said it vaguely a couple times too which is what grifters were using to say Atlus was flopping
>>738704781What did Sega mean by this?
>>738706063it's gacha trash anyway. that's like saying genshin shouldn't be neutered because it makes gorillions
>nintendo is the only thing that keeps bayo alive>Still don't buy whole IP to avoid sega fuckeryWhy?>>738706409Sega have bunch of shit unrelated to vidya like most big publishers, I think only capcom is pure video games + licensing.
>>738706334It's peak Japanese companies tripping over themselves to pander to the West during/post COVID. Literally bought them because they thought they were a foothold in to the Western mobile market.People ITT ask why we don't get Sakura Wars games or the PSP Valkyria Chronicles and that's because they're icky Japan market appealing media and Japanese execs only want precious USD bucks for the last 6 years. OP is where it got Sega and it's where it's getting others like Bamco with high profile flops like Code Vein 2. The elusive "western market" has Japan in a chokehold right now and the chase needs to die right fucking now. It lead to shit like Sega thinking JOIN THE ACK was a good idea to fund right until -someone- realized this is a trillion red flags right before the finish line.
>>738706556tbf what happened with Hyenas wasn't really Sega's fault. They thought they were in good hands with Creative Assembly, then when they went to go check on the progress and saw what it was Sega wenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuIZZQvySzw
>>738706508All these morons are sinking millions into making AAAA tiles, meanwhile Nintendo is remaking Starfox for the 4th time. What's sad is that it will sell pitifully low and still turn more profit than whatever cancelled title preflops before release.
>>738706102Then why did they not mention Crossworlds in their recent report?
>>738706701People will complain, but they know what sells. There's another Star Fox game coming after the reboot that's apparently a more experimental one, but if you just want to reestablish the brand and make a quick buck then remaking 64 again is the safe way to go.
Sega Main 3 salesSonic: 990kI assume mainly most of the sales are coming from Crossworlds while the others are probably from Frontiers and Shadow Gens with discountsYakuza: 1.38MThey been porting 0 and the Kiwami games to modern systems like crazy so it makes sense + Kiwami 3 (bleugh)Persona: 880kGuess P3 Reload is still selling well + P5 got a massive discount on Steam recentlyTotal War: 630kSorry im not up to date with Total War
>>738706102Team Sonic Racing had seven something years before we heard it only sold 3 million. Crossworlds will be lucky if it gets 3 million before 2030.
>>738706509...
>stranger than heaven isn't coming out until winterlolwill probably get delayed to 2027
>>738706701Star Fox could somehow flop and sell 10k copies lifetime and still make more profit than Sega's SUPER GAME project and Rovio purchase lmao. HYENAS was already a ~$100 million flush down the toilet because it didn't even release. Not to mention the opportunity cost of that money and the employees. The employees working on HYENAS could've made something else in that time. Hell, Sega could've put in the ~$1 billion spent on the SUPER GAYMES and Rovio into investments and come up hundreds of millions instead of being down the same amount.
>>738706859Peak thumbnail
>>738705338>there's a funny story about Sega becoming so pissed with the devs who were in the EU that they sent over JP reps to try and salvage/overwatch the projectany link? I wanna read the shitshow
>>738706810Most of the persona sales are probably P5 like usual, both games have been discounted to hell and back + retailers are doing shit like this now
I thought Ecco 3 was the super game?
>>738707097How does Reload compare to FES?
>>738705637As if, just jump ship at this point.
>>738707170Better in most ways. Some people argue it lost some of its atmosphere, I disagree on that. The new anime cutscenes are definitely worse. You can only use swords now instead of all weapon types, but the combat is significantly better and so is Tartarus which are the most important parts.
>>738705714DEATH DEATH DANGER KEEP OUT DEATH DEATH DEATH DEATH DEATH DEATH
Sega will likely just announce they're doing genAI games soon. Bamco just did with Sony.You're never getting the standard sustainable budget 2-3 year dev cycle back. The industry revolves around needing to fool investors into the latest grift to stay afloat now. Before it was NFTs and GAAS games both of which were present in Super Game, now it's genAI games.
>>738707170zoomers will tell you it's a vastly superior experience but it was actually put together by inexperienced devs that barely know how to make a gameeven setting aside how much worse the visuals are a lot of the time there's a mountain of baffling gameplay decisions including a whole auto-leveling mechanic that was clearly made by some intern that couldn't figure out how to edit the give EXP function and the script is some dogshit middle ground between the originals and the PSP version where everything the PSP version took out of the male storyline to put in the female social links didn't make it back in and the devs probably didn't even notice
>>738707308I've only seen the dorm screenshots and they looked like they forgot to bake lighting. Are the fanservice scenes like that one Yukari shower cutscene still in Reload?
>>738707337I already thought that the main team were making Metaphor while new devs were using the P3 remake as training for themselves.
>>738704781This company is a mess. They can't seem to focus on anything. One minute they say they are bringing back all their classic ips in a big way but ended up doing nothing. They move to big Gaas titles, cancel half and the other half flop. What is keeping them alive?
>>738707170A lot easier, misses the point with theming and art direction in places but it's still pretty fun and good overall
>>738707072
>>738707396they cut that one down a lot but it's still there, the yakushima stuff is still there but the graphics are god awful if you felt strongly about the atmosphere of the original game at all I would honestly just not bother, the cutscene direction is worse, the music is worse, the dark hour looks worse in every conceivable way, and if you liked P5 the game will piss you off on that level too because the combat is just a strictly worse version of it that and plays like it's off brand persona because it's another strange halfway between P3 and P5 that doesn't feature the good parts of either >>738707468No one that went to Studio Zero is coming back to P Studio unless they have to go all hands on deck to get P6 out in time. They haven't done that since P5 and that was also before the company was as uniformly silo'ed as it is now
>>738707337my main thing was replacing all english VAs and the fact that none of the animations have any weight. look at the all out attack, as they're running towards the enemy. it just looks goofy
Maybe im misunderstanding something but isn't this good news? Live service games are almost always shit. Maybe this means we'll get another mainline sonic game sooner, which is my personal hope.
>>738707536CA would've 100% folded if Hyenas releasedhiolyshit
>>738706054I can definitely see them coming back to the Valkyria Chronicles franchise again at some point
>>738707641>the music is worsehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Sn1nFGQQ8&list=RDj9Sn1nFGQQ8&start_radio=1
Where is the new Sonic game?
>>738706603>muh code vein 2 flopped because us westerners wanted pantiesLol. Lmao.
>>738707482Nostalgia merch. Hipsters love that shit.
As a PSO bro, this hurts like a motherfucker, but i will take the hit so GaaS satanism dies for good.
>>738705338>Sakura Wars GachaThat ended way before any of this.
>>738704781I'm 99% the super game was just a metaverse "sega all in one" launcher thing.They announced it when that was all the talk.
>>738707641>the music is worsethe music is so similar to the original P3 that atlus didn't even credit the new arrangements, they credited meguro as "Original Music Arrangement". don't talk out of your ass
>>738707792What style of sonic game are you hoping for anon?
>>738705603>NFTs
>>738706880it's probably was always coming out in 2027, Winter still means December, January or February, Feb 2027 would be perfect
>>738706334>dead weightNot if there's an ounce of creativity within the board of directors. An Angry Birds RPG made with the Dragon Engine could sell millions.
>>738707097It's either that or people whaling in Persona 5 X.If anything the franchise is doing very well with how little work they've been putting into it.
>>738707170FES is itself an abomination, so who cares if that's your measuring stick.
>>738707659it's great news
>>738707792I also don't get what is taking them so long. It's fucking Sonic, not GTA.
>>738706390It's ok, even though its literally anime WW2 with fictional jews getting massacred on screen, the characters all die cartooney deaths
imagine being a segatard from the 90s and growing up to witness this
>>738707792A Sonic Central has been rumored to be happening at the end of the month, so probably around that time just in time for it to be at Summer Games Fest
>>738707919insane cope
>>738706810>Crossworlds passed 1 million sales in october>We already went trough 2 fiscal reports which combines Sonic sales are of 2.69 millionGame may have already reached 2 million units sold at this point but they aint saying shit for some reason.Maybe they are waiting for Arle to release to announce it just like they did with Joker when they reached 1 million close to his releaseYes the hopium for year 2 is back
>>738707981> with how little work they've been putting into itAtlus has been edging people about P6 so long that the game is guaranteed to sell a bajillion copies at this point even if it's the steamiest dogshit.
>>738708006>>738707792who cares, sonic hasn't had a good game in 20 years. next one will be shit too.
>>738706325>Sakura WarsBROS?!?!?
>>738708063You don't trust Kishimoto's vision? He was reading xitter feedback from Sonicfags, you know.
>>738708072Sega has been shilling hard Sakura Wars recently so i wouldnt be surprised if a new game may be coming out
>>738708072Sega is getting ready to put a 3rd bullet in its head.Please look forward to it.
>>738708061I've had a feeling it's been at 2.5 million, Sega doesn't really like to post when their games pass a certain number of sales all the time
>>738708115I stopped caring after getting burned five times in a row. I'd even accept it if they played it safe so long as it's good, but I'm not holding my breath.
>>738708115>Twitter sonicfagsThose are the type of sonicfags that no one should ever trust and actively avoid them
>>738704837Killed PSO2: NGS for shit like Hyena's and promised ONE (1) game was a "super game" that was going to save them.This was like 6-8 years ago, BTW. So them cancelling it now just shows they haven't done SHIT since.Meanwhile, PSO2:NGS is about to hit 300 concurrent and they still fucking dripfeed 2 hours of story every 9 months in it.
>>738707785>song was written by staff that had no idea how it was going to be used in the game They probably thought nighttime was going to work like it did in P5, instead you will never go out and hear this while looking for anyone besides Tanaka
>>738708189>>song was written by staff that had no idea how it was going to be used in the gameWhere did you even read that?
>>738706325>>All the other Dead IP games are still coming without the stench of GaaS all over themWhere is he? Please, I miss him...
>>738708115I liked how they improved Frontiers with every patch and Shadow Generations was really fucking good, so I'm slightly hopeful.
>>738705080I bet you Hyena's WAS the super game and they just pivoted and forgot they promised a "super game" until now.
>>738708203I played the game and the lyrics have nothing to do with what you do at night in P3 lmao. They wrote a romantic nighttime song just like le persona 5 and there aren't even any girls to talk to outside the dorm at night in reload, just two old dudes like it was in the original where they didn't have a separate nighttime theme
>>738705054DAMN and that looked like a good game tooi remember where i was 5 years ago when i first saw that slidei was sitting on my friends couch when i was scrolling through my phonei saw the financial reporti read about SUPER GAMEdammit dammit dammit WHY did they cancel it ?? ive been waiting 5 years and now super game is not even coming out
>>738708045Which just coincides with the 35th anniversary, since Sonic 1 came out June 21.
>>738708215They can only buried IPs anon, they're not magicians that can bring back the vaporized IPs.Go sit in the corner with the Skies of Arcadia fans and weep.
>>738705589>reception to gacha game is meh despite massive shilling>somehow gets revealed that Baba, the Tales of Zesty producer everyone fucking hates and got shitcanned from Bamco was working on the game despite not being credited>massive backlash ensuesThe fact that it got exposed meant that a dev snitched on it in the first place kek.
>>738708253Why are you making shit up?
>>738708215slowly, they working on reviving Genesis and Dreamcast ip's, Gamecube/PS2 ip's will be next Trust :)
>>738708323*They can only revive
>>738708253Any cope's a goal right PSO tranny?
>>738705464They've basically been skirting bankruptcy since PSO2 Ep4&5.
>>738708323Then at least something for NiGHTS? Come on... that one turns 30 this year.
>>738708043Segatard from the 90s here. Sega was always incredibly dumb so nothing changed really.>no mainline Sonic on Saturn
>>738704781sega's new game lost to project nortubel
>>738708402>Then at least something for NiGHTS?Crossworlds.
>>738708442Son of a...
>>738708043it's a good thing though
>>738707792>>738708006I dont want another rushed disaster so im fine with it taking a little longer
>>738704781>Hyenas cancelled>Super game cancelled>Banking on nostalgia to sell Live Service slop when anyone who cares will just play the original games>Sonic has seen more success as a film franchise than it's seen as a game franchise in agesLegit, beyond more Sonic movies what the fuck is SEGA's next move beyond hoping their Live Service slop prints money?
>>738708416It's honestly really funny how I have zero interest in playing any of the shit Sega is trying to make.I assume these aren't even going to be new games, just low effort "remakes" like P3 and P4, but I can think of legitimately nothing I'd want to play less than a game like Crazy Taxi, JSR, or Golden Axe by nu-Sega. They have absolutely zero understanding of what made those games fun, because they fired all their arcade devs to pump out yakuza slop.
>>738708416Actually not bad, more IP use then some other Studios that let their Ip's waste away, they could be looking at a good couple of years, depending on when these come out.
>>738704781I just assumed Stranger Than Heaven was the super game
>>738708416Better than Nintendo, I actually want to play these games
>>738708486You don't need 5 years to make a Sonic game unless it's huge as fuck
>>738708416Please don't let the new VF be ass, I'm begging you Sega.
KINOOOO!!!!!
>>738708583If they starter after Frontiers, that's actually a lot of fucking time for a Sonic game
>>738708605Imagine if they add meter to VF
>>738708045I don't think we will see Frontiers 2 this year but i hope we get a reveal for it this june
>>738705724Not even treat the old cast like shit. They went out of their way to say the original cast would never be in the game at any point. Not to mention the game didn't even have mechs. It had shitty extendable mechanic limbs that looked like those things Fortnite uses for the child characters.
>>738708043What would you be expecting?>Jack shit on SEGA CD>Jack shit on 32x>No mainline Sonic on Saturn, did well enough in Japan but it was saved by game companies that weren't SEGA>Fumbled the Dreamcast fucking hard.>Nintendo practically kept SEGA and Sonic on life support for ~15 yearsThe Genesis/Mega Drive and the Saturn in Japan were the only times SEGA was ever winning. No 90s SEGA fan would expect anything less than them shitting themselves as soon as they got back on their feet.
>>738708636>VF: Now with Heat
>>738708579Imagine if Nintendo and Sega got together again to do a new F-Zero, Sega would probably be up for it with their Arcade devs
>>738708304>and that looked like a good game??? For all we know it was another F2P gacha game
>>738708062green bucket my beloved
>>738704781>Hyenas 2 cancelledAnd nothing of value was lost.
>>738708061>We already went trough 2 fiscal reports which combines Sonic sales are of 2.69 million>Game may have already reached 2 million units sold at this point but they aint saying shit for some reason.I think you're underestimating just how many Sonic games are represented by that 2.69m. Do you really think Crossworlds sold nearly half of every Sonic game when you've got games from the 2010s being sold on Steam and consoles?
>>738707536>volund reportslole
>>738705637Fuck no, it's time to make PS1 classic
>>738709084>bring back single player + multiplayer 4 man dungeon crawling goodnessIf only anon
>>738705603NFTs are so fucking funny, everyone wanted to implement them in their games but dev cycles were so long that they couldn't be made fast enough before they quickly became irrelevant.Literally the perfect humiliation for the rich and stupid trend chasers
>>738705029>had Microsoft backing tooOh, so that's why it died. Microsoft created the AAA industry, now Microsoft and its creation will both die. Glad Sega had a brain.
>>738709084>>738709262Blueburst exists.
>>738704837They announced a "Super Game" which people have speculated what is, and now it's cancelled.It seems from everything we've seen that Segasammy buying Rovio who made Angry Birds to make a Super Game that is known to be GaaS now, was meant to be Sega's own "Fortnite". A game as a "platform", which is the "1 and Only" Sega game that sucks in licenses, and they've canceled it because it was not shaping up, and their tests for smaller scale licensing hype and sales tanked with Sonic's mobile game and Crossworlds.Good news is, this means they need to rely on their other franchises (Yakuza, Stranger than Heaven, Sonic, Virtua Fighter) but the bad news is that this project could've been the justification for why Sega got a big cash boost in recent years, and why the last 2 Sonic games were up-budgeted.All I wanna see is a completely original 3D Sonic that's actually kickass, and they got so close with Shadow gens, but it's not original, and it's still a little rough around its corners.
What's wrong with modern nips? Why are they incapable of making gachas? You have chinks and gooks dominating the scene. Meanwhile, nips are axing a new gacha every other month.
>>738706102it takes me like more than 2 minutes to find a race now lmao shits dying
>>738704781I thought the Super Game was Hyenas
>>738709475They don't appear to have the same idea of gacha as chinks and gooks, generallyWhich is good. Just make normal video games for fuck's sale
>>738706264Also they were probably sizing up for a big "Fortnite" styled game, which is the deal Sega made with them. All around disappointing, because I'm not interesting in a "Sega Fortnite"
>>738709493>>738706785>>738706850I hope it does well, anyway... The consensus I've received from my friends is that it's kind of frustrating to play, with the last patch just being a step in the right direction... Ideally they'll keep supporting the game and balance it more...
>>738709475They don't have infinite money from culture grants or the ability to employ slave labor to rip animations from other games to save time.
>>738706785No individual game sales were mentioned in the report, this was mostly just stuff for the future
>>738709475no gook sweatshops in Japan
>>738705331God, I'm so fucking happy Xbox is dying, cancer since November 2001.
>>738709475>>738709710China and Korea both also overspend and overproduce while the Japanese are very frugal with money and production values these days.
>>738708253Hyenas is the "european FPS" mentioned in the original SUPER GAME report.
>>738709290It's amazing that a major factor that killed NFTs was a YouTube video thumbnail (not even the actual video since I'm damn sure most people didn't actually watch the full thing) making the rounds. But it's exactly what NFT faggotry deserved.
>>738707792another shitty botw/ubisoft clone
>>738709493I just found one in thirty seconds
>>738706579Sega did almost die in 2001, until their dying CEO pulled a total Hallmark Christmas movie move on his deathbed by bequeathing the company like $100 million from his personal fortune to keep them afloat and pivot into third-party development.
>>738709937SomethingAwful goons are too powerful
>>738704781KEKSIMUS MAXIMUS
>>738708416how long have they been working on those retro revivals and they're still TBD?maybe they keep scrapping their progress because I remember Crazy Taxi being rumored as a battle royale, which sounded terrible
>>738709475Because japs are cheap but also a different culture I guess? It's crazy how jp companies mimic the behavior of my aunt. Will penny-pinch for the most inane shit and sometimes even important stuff, but will gladly blow all that saved up money on some of the dumbest shit possible. My personal theory is that I think japs are afraid of making something big and still getting BTFO.
>>738704781They should make saturn and dreamcast games again
>>738706603>in 2023, Nixon was still living rent free in people's mindsI wonder if we're genuinely going to get Trump parodies and general seethig well into the future 70s.
All they need is to rerelease the Genesis, Saturn and Dreamcast with HDMI. Actual hardware. It would do well enough to make an easy profit.
>>7387055162 chinese games just got censored bruh china aint any better Korea is the real hope with stuff like stellar blade
>>738710752Trump's second term will absolutely be studied for years to come.Or maybe he's going to be lumped in with other populists across the globe, who knows.
>>738709475Sega has one or more gacha the miku one
>PSO REMAKE SOLD AT 30-40 BUCKS, MODERN GRAPHICS WITH JANK ANIMATION FOR SOUL>SELL EPISODE EXPANSIONS WITH RAISED LEVEL CAPS AND NEW GEAR/ZONE/STORY>ADVERTISE IT PROPERLY SO IT GETS AT LEAST A MILLION SALESPLEASE NIGGA
a new Shining Force game would sell 10 Shinillion copies
>>738704781Imagunnn mahh shokkk
>>738704781>You now remember that Sega genuinely still wants to compete with Nintendo and Mario
>>738705464They're smart enough to keep these potential flops from the public eye by canceling them in a hush-hush way like this. Other publishers were already in a sunk cost fallacy state; they thought they might as well release their "super" games, hoping that maybe someone would play the damn thing, but SEGA pulled the plug straight away.
>>738711137Even just an HD Port of Portable 2 Infinity would do amazing, especially on the Switch. Amazes me how fucking stupid and stubborn Sega is.
>>738704837Several years ago they decided to throw a bunch of money at a "Super game" project numbering in the hundreds of millions. Initially them calling it a "Super game" implied it was just one expensive game but it turned out it meant multiple high budget games. Supposedly Hyenas was one of them and they cancelled it. We also were told stuff like Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio were under the umbrella.A few months back there were some rumors going around that the "Super game" project was actually going to be some F2P hub you download and get access to these various games which may or may not have been paid. I don't think they ever really knew what to do with it because resurrecting old IPs in the modern day is very hard as many of them can't use their old gameplay and would need to be completely reworked into an unrecognizable game.
The super game is angry birds?
>>738710959Most of them are or will be a footnote but Trump is simply too important and too unhinged to ignore. People like Orban knew they had to appear serious with their grift and shut up otherwise while Trump and his cabinet have gone full cartoonish parody of evil politicians. You won't even need to exaggerate anything for emphasis in fictional depictions.
My unc works for Sega and he says the Super Game was a Persona 5 remake.
>>738708386Actually those did increase their money income, the real nukes were ep6 onward including NGS, or rather, especially NGS.
>>738705029>had Microsoft backing tooIt didnt. Why are you lying?
>>738710959People barely remember the Biden presidency even though it was one of the worst periods of American history ever. All will be forgotten with time.
>>738705516male(male)
>>738713214Because neonazis don't care about the truth, only about perceived enemies.
>>738705516THE biggest gacha earner to this day is still pokemon TCG to the point sensortower and other gachaslop revenue trackers flat out refuse to aknowledge the JP server exists and only does "global" for it unlike "combined all servers" they do for literally all other games, and pokemon still is on the top 5 if not outright top 1 most months.And reminder westoids ("global") are always the smallest spenders in gacha by a wide margin, with japan and chinks trading first place and gooks being on third.FGO still to this day also sneezes and instantly reaches top 3 if not top 1.And the budget for both games are literal peanuts.SD gundam, naruto mobile and monster strike are also always on the top 15 (though never above top 5) and everyone just kind of pretends they don't exist.Uma musume does spend a bit more budget but is also routinely the top earners.Meanwhile chinkgooks constantly need AAA budgets and flashy lights to barely compete with a literal flash game (FGO) and a literal goddamn card game (PTCG).>>738710923>Korea is the real hope with stuff like stellar bladeLMAO picrelGook blade also got censored shortly after release by the way.Eventually you just learn to never trust gooks because they WILL rugpull you.
>>738709393For a hyperniche crowd. If you make it and people want it, they will come. If they don't, they won't.
>>738708416You know, Shinobi wasn't a bad game certainly, but it really did underwhelm feeling more like an indie fangame with an odd budget than it did being a full SEGA release.
>>738706054>first shot is done with index, the rest of the clip is shot with the middle fingervery curious, is there a reason for her doing things this way?
>>738705603>NFTsThere was a time people called AI the next NFT, how I wish those people where right.
>>738704781Moving away from GaaS is great news for players, though.
>>738713538the mozambique drill technique, i believe, where it's actually faster to load by not having to put the entire hand into the motion. in a speedshoot drill scenario, even a quarter second saved per shot is invaluable. it's a fan animation either way.
>>738706297They were balls deep into the GaaS shit until now. Will probably take a bit for them to reorient.
>>738713234Wouldn't put it past people to think cheeto man was president in 2020-2024
>>738705965Creative assembly itself proposed hyenas and lobbied SEGA to fund it. Blame lies on their retarded executives not understand what their studio should do.
>>738705641>sonic fans are so raped they're now defending crossworlds' overpriced DLC and FOMO simply because another sonic game has even more of itsplash some water on your face man, there's better games out there to simp for!
>>738713538First shot is for precise aiming. The rest are to put accurate enough shots downrange as fast as possible.
>>738705054>Development of new FPS title at European studiowait isn't that hyenas
>>738713538notice how she doesnt let go of the bolt for faster loading
Shining force revival? not even on the table...
>/v/chuds aren't the pack, or freegunners, or wardens
>>738706297the industry has decided ports of PSP games with their original graphics are nonviable and you either have to paint over them with NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN graphics or not make them at all.P3P was probably done to gauge the reaction to applying shitty AI upscaling to all the art in a largely prerendered game. the reaction seemed lukewarm, sales probably were too.etrian odyssey HD meanwhile was widely rejected for being low frills and massively overpriced. that was probably sega's wet dream for the least effort they could put into a remaster and sell it, but everyone shit on it and it flopped.but besides the hurdles of dealing with PSP games, VC1 and 4 for switch probably just didn't sell that well or sega would've responded with more ports.
>>738706054>90% of the playerbase are Steamfags that bought V1 on heavy discount, or ultra purists that will only play VC1 even when VC4 was tailor-made for them
>>738705039The problem is that while Sega's IPs are well received, they tend to sell poorly.
>>738715363why would i play 4 after 1? theres 2 and 3 that i cannot play, yet i would feel im missing out on important stuff if i play 4 immediately after 1
>>738705434Any word on the 3d Streets of Rage?
>>738707792You are going to buy Sonic Frontiers Definitive Edition and you will like it.
>>738708063if you don't like a single sonic game released from 2006-2026 then you don't like sonic and never did. not a big deal, just don't insert yourself into discussions about it.
>>738706810>carries the legacy of Virtua Fighter, Shenmue and Spikeout on his back>mogs the Sonic franchise despite having fewer gamesHere's your new SEGA mascot.
>>738715507They are barely even connected, each game has a new cast.
>>738708062>Hashino leaves>P2 and P1 characters start appearing in official media more frequentlyI think we're getting a P1 remake next.
>>738705028>Sega's been talking up a huge game that would define it for this generation, but decided to cancel its development.That actually does encapsulate the current generation, doesn't it?
>>738715810Sony did the same thing on a 10x larger scale pretty much.
>>738708115Why would I care about Second Place Sonic? Yakuza is beating Second Place Sonic in sales, and Stranger than Heaven will make that gap wider. Sonicfags got too cocky just like they did against Genshin Impact, the Mario movies and Mario Kart World where Sonic ended up in second place hence the nickname "Second Place Sonic." But now, they're being cucked in their own home territory.
>>738715653Sonicfags always insert themselves into discussions where they're not welcomed. Fuck giving them a safespace. >>738708063if you don't like a single sonic game released from 2006-2026 then you're fucking based. that's a big deal, keep inserting yourself into discussions about it.
>>738705464CA's bullshit caused them to re-organise their europe division, drop Relic (seriously, they must barely be able to break even if that happened) and now have CA making money-making only games now.CA wiped out all of their previous Warhammer money on Hyenas. One hell of a loss.
>>738708636They will for sure add the health meter.
>>738715802God I wish, I want peoole to experience the double-Junpei fun of having both Masao/Mark and Brown on the team.
everytime i see the word gaas i pronounce it gayass in my head
>>738704781Wasn't this super game a giant financial sink? Or did it get cancelled early enough?
>>738715736>fewer gamesBre
>>738715802please god no more remake slop. go back to regular fucking ports that don't spiff up anything besides easily vectorized UI graphics. just port the PSP versions and throw em in a collection like capcom did with the megaman RPGs.
>>738716419>ignoring that the entire Sonic franchise is on Steam save for 3-5 games>ignoring that Sonic has way more games on Nintendo eshop than Yakuza>ignoring that there are 27 Sonic games on Playstation versus 15 Yakuza games>ignoring that there are 30 Sonic games on Xbox (SA1, SA2 and Unleashed) versus 15 Yakuza games>"Bre"Numbers don't lie. Yakuza is beating Sonic with fewer games.
>>738715653If you like a single Sonic game released from 2006-2026 then you've been naughty and need a spanking
>>738716440Persona 1 and 2 have terrible combat systems. This isn't a matter of "old bad new good." They've always been slow and terrible compared to other turn based RPGs of the time. They can benefit from a remake. In fact, Persona 4 should have never been remade in the first place. There was greater demand in Japan for P2. Remakes only work for games that have bad gameplay but good everything else. Remake culture started going out of hand when games that don't need remakes started getting remakes, but remakes as a concept isn't bad.>throw em in a collection like capcom did with the megaman RPGs.The Mega Man RPGs have legendary combat systems unlike P1 and P2.
>>738709064I mean most everybody who cares about the older Sonic games probably already owns them right?
>>738708632They were probably R&D the next game even before Frontiers' release
>>738716885you're right that P1 could be greatly improved by a remake. the problem is that the remake will be made by current atlus and sega employees, who are talentless, and will make a worse game than the original. P3 reload sucks, but everyone bought it, and we're going to suffer the consequences for several years.if i were to huff industrial grade copium, perhaps they'll learn from what people criticized about P3 reload like they learned from criticisms of P1P and P3P, but i don't think so.
>>738716696Count from 2005 on then you faggot. Everybody who cared about the Sonic games from pre 2005 already pirated them before you were born.
say what you want but Sega has cut and run on two of these live service guaranteed flops now which means write-offs, whereas Snoy keeps churning them out like the CEO is affected by a gypsy's curse compelling him or something
>>738717721Oh no SNOY has cancelled a ton of these you have no idea how many they had in development
>>738716385it wasn't even far enough along to announce anything about it, not even its name. Hyenas seemed far along, though.While it is lost money, the cost to go gold, pay for servers, ads, etc, would've been substantially more. Plus like>>738717721said, tax write offs. Sony is the guy in the casino that just pulled out his life savings to go all in on red and lost and Sega is the guy who lost half his paycheck but snapped out of it in time and walked out with half remaining.
>>738717789>released like 10 flops so far>more like Horizon: Even Uglier and GaaS on the way>and this guy is saying they cancelled more on top of that Sounds like bullshit, but I believe it
>tfw you lived long enough to see live service games dieFeels good man.
BASED! FUCK SEGA! I HATE MODERN SEGA SO MUCH! IT RUINED TONS OF GREAT IPS NONSTOP! I HOPE IT DIES BEFORE TRANNIES IN IT RUINS EVEN MORE GOOD IPS FILLING IT WITH NIGGER GAY TRASH>>738705637>again
>>738715736Sega of japan was unironically pushing yakuza as their flagship ip in the 2010's, understandable if you see your mascot series never did well in japan, but honestly, im glad it didnt end up that way.Yakuza might be a great series and all but i dont think it would have survived being the mascot series in the long run cause despite the quality games, they never reached the sonic numbers globally + nagoshi leaving changed the direction of the series, they just needed to stop being retarded about sonic and give proper dev time to sonic team.
>>738715930To clarify, it's because the re-releases for 0 and the Kiwami games and seemingly Kiwami 3 being the lead for this financial report compared to Sonic console release being Crossworlds only from last year
PSO2 NGS is pretty much officially dead according to Sega. Moving 100+ f2p personnel basically means the Phantasy Star crew. They are the only f2p team they gave that large. Miku and other games are small skeleton team.
Sega really don't know what they're doing.
>>738715653>2006-2026You couldve saved yourself if you said 2023-2026
Why hasn't Atlus been the golden goose they promised themselves to be?
>>738718782Atlus and RGG are both stretchesd incredibly thin. It's like when Sega relied solely on PSO2 for cash during their bad period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w7DCQx7ezYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Dw8Og8XjcI miss it...
>2026/3>Both new titles and repeat sales performedbelow expectations
>>738718868
>>738705338Honestly it's for the better. If Sega is going back to making regular games again they're already two steps ahead of the competition, which are still trying to gaslight themselves into thinking they can make the next Fortnite or Overwatch.More Sonic games. More Atlus support. Better Yakuza support. This is the road to recovery.
>>738718907It's largely their F2P sector not their Full Games sector. Think PSO2 NGS, Miku, Fist of North Star.
>>738712860you lost tranny
In resume:They should never have buyed Rovio
>>738719051Nah, it`s full game.
>>738717789>you have no idea how many they had in developmentWasn't it 12?
The new Bonanza Bros will save them
>>738719156Atlus and RGG and everyone else is doing good. Its their F2P teams doing very bad. They try to make it seem less bad than it appears to shareholders.
>>738717789>releasedHelldivers 2Marathon>released and cancelledConcord>lol lmaoFairgame$Horizon Hunter Gatherers>cemeteryThe Last of Us OnlineGod of War OnlineUnnamed Bend Studio gameTwisted Metal OnlineSpider Man: The Great WebUnnamed London Studio's game (studio closed)Unnamed Deviation Game's game (studio closed)Payback by Bungie
>>738705516China censors itself without the help of Blackrock. They are even worse.
>>738704781>Live service slop being put down in favor of single player gamesHow is this heartbreaking
>>738719591because OP is a southeast asian
>>738704781Kek so long gay Gwizz
>>738719591Phantasy Star is dead forever and never getting another single player game.
>>738719591Fall of miku
>>738719906Colorful Stage?They at least said their already stablished f2p's are stil doing great
>>738719591If you need to ask then you're already part of the problem.
>>738717721>>738717835its funny you mention tax writeoffs, because in the quarterly report that covered concord's catastrophic failure they explicitly couldn't mention concord itself as a writeoff, for one tiny little detailbecause sony japan took that as a tax writeoff, leaving SIE itself like retards taking the full losses to the face
>>738720002Summoner Wars makes more money than it. It's over.
>>738720349>because sony japan took that as a tax writeoff, leaving SIE itself like retards taking the full losses to the facekek
>>738706810>meanwhile on capcomONE new IP mogs sega hard.
i still think back to the hyenas pitch deck that was leaked and i have no idea how the fuck it was green lit. sega falls for some real retarded shit but at least they don't release the terrible games that will damage their brand i guess.
>>738704781[Good News]
>>738720513>but at least they don't release the terrible games that will damage their brand i guess.sakura wars...yakuza kiwami 3...basically any sonic after 06 minus maybe mania...PSO2 NGS...
>>738707097no wonder Switch 2 version flopped. why would anyone buy that game and its dlcs at full price when you can buy it at psn or steam for this ammount?
>>738707170keep in mind reload makes you pay extra for the answer dlc. that's part of why it's sold for so cheap.
>>738704781good, now make the real pso3 and EOS NGS
How hard can it be to make a PSO Classic?
>>738708416Might get crazy taxi and jet set radio. Got zero faith in 40k or total war in general now.
>>738720898cheap fucks probably don't want to pay for servers. there might actually be better odds of a pso 1&2 nso release which won't include episode 4.
>>738704781pretty sure this is just Hyena’s
>>738704781>>738705054I don't understand how can you work on a game for 5-6 years and then cancel it. Surely at this point it must have been near completion, and it would have been better to release it just to recover at least some of the money.
>>738721063Hyenas was $125,000,000 of the $600,000,000 Super Game budget I think.
>>738721209That's quite a lot of ACKs.
>>73872127421% ACKS of the budget at that.
>>738708043There's a pretty good manga/anime about exactly that.
>>738720898Sega isn't interested in "classic servers", PSOBB was shutdown in Japan a year before PSO2's release.Reviving PSOBB's servers or releasing a "EP1&2&4+ Remaster" probably aren't viable options either because online mode needs to be reworked to be compatible with modern consoles and platforms like Steam, and that requires more effort than the average remaster (and they need the game's source code that probably doesn't exist anymore).
>>738712860CNN watcher over here
>>738710590Yeah like how those Pokémon ads had a bigger budget than a mainline game kek
I could've sworn they had already cancelled this shit
>>738722630kek poor lad
>>738705338Hyenas, forspoken and unknown 9 are poison games adviced to our of touch japanese boomers so their companies bomb and westerns can buy them cheaper
>>738706297This is all they need to do, but frankly a proper remake would be better. VC2 and VC3 EE are both limited by the PSP platform and had some other issues. Remakes that expanded the maps and everything else to VC1/VC4 levels would be better, while also optimizing class progression and ideally adding new content. And for fuck's sake make playable versions of >Welkin as General Gunther in VC2>Alicia as Megatits Valkyria in VC2>Varrot, as advanced sniper class in VC3>Selvaria returns in VC3, maybe revived in VC2, both in the 'normal' DLC form with Ruhm and playable Valkyria form. Also bring Johann back and give him a face this timeIf they do it right and don't fuck it up, a VC2 / VC3EE remake could do very well for Sega for less than the cost of a whole new title ground up. Even an enhanced remaster could do all right if nothing else though.
>>738719739>kill off your GaaS initiative>the Phantasy Star franchise will remain GaaS forever thoughDevilish.Fuck Phantasy Star anyway. It's been bugman grindslop since forever.
>Sonic Rumble floppingNot surprising, they delayed it too many times to the point people stopped caring about it and that's not even talking about the overpriced microtransactions and fucking smurfs care bears crossover, at least the mobile devs will go on to make proper console games instead
>>738725673nice transparency fuckwit
I thought Hyenas was their super game.
>>738725736super game was a development initiative or whatever, it was multiple projects Hyenas was one of them the jet set radio reboot was another
>>738725736Super Game was developed by Sega of Japan. Hyenas was developed by Sega of Europe. big difference.
>>738725782Man, they really thought live service JSR was gonna be a huge hit, huh?
>>738705270All of this will flop with expection of Alien Isolation 2
>>738725673>Gemerl and Marine coming to the game as i writted thisFUCK
>>738725673I was absolutely going to play this until I realized I'd have to pay 40 burgers just for a single ghidorah skin so FUCK YOU SEGAhopefully some day I'm going to have my fall guys replacement
>Super Game floppedTHE SUPER NINTENDO DOES WHAT SEGADON'T
>>738713214Right here >>738705331
>>738705331Holy fuck I forgot Sarah Bond was behind that Sega shit
>>738714249He's not lying thoBase game is too overpriced but each dlc pack is priced fine, also the fomo items are planned to return
"WE ARE LOSING MONEY, QUICK, DEPLOY THE TUNG TUNG TUNG SAHUR DLC FOR CROSSWORLDS"
>>738709475Seething about Kancolle again, they deserve it for being giga retards.
>>738704781PSO2 died for super game to die
>>738729491>TUNG TUNG TUNG SAHURis that a SEA thing
i always want more streets of rage, and i've been asking for a new golden axe since the 90s, but i just don't believe in sega having the ability to release games that won't be shit. i'll hold my judgement til i see more, but a 3D beat em up SOR and whatever garbage Golden Axe they teased are NOT appealing to me
>>738729841Some jeet cartoon meme that ironically looks like a log of shit
